Terms of withdrawal of the submarine "Dmitry Donskoy" from the Russian Navy announced

The timing of the withdrawal of the project 941 Akula submarine missile cruiser "Dmitry Donskoy" from the Russian Navy was announced.

About this information agency employees TASS said a source working in the north of the Russian Federation in the power structure.

He said that the submarine will serve for at least five more years. And for the current year, it is planned to participate "Dmitry Donskoy" in the combat training program.

Decommissioning a missile carrier is a matter of at least five years.

- said the source.

Prior to that, the head of Sevmash, Mikhail Budnichenko, in an interview with the Zavod magazine produced by the enterprise, talked about the signing of contracts for the construction of two submarines belonging to the class of strategic missile carriers of the project 955A Borey-A. One of them will be called "Dmitry Donskoy". Commenting on this news, the interlocutor of TASS noted that from the moment of the bookmark to the transfer the fleet submarines of this class usually take 7-8 years.

Until the Belgorod special-purpose nuclear submarine appeared, which is being tested and will be equipped with the Poseidon super-powerful nuclear robotic torpedoes, the Dmitry Donskoy submarine was the largest submarine on the planet. He began his service in 1981 when he entered service with the USSR Navy.

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[Togilen]

30 years for a boat (service life in the USSR 25 years). And the same Poseidon so far only in promises, like Armata, Boomerang, etc.
As they say, Armata has been waiting for 7 years:

The equipment will be able to be created by the end of 2022 thanks to the restructuring of the research complex of the military department, Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko said.

[Nasrat]

Turn this boat into a museum .. !!! I understand, there is a Vigorous installation ..., but the eprst is the king of the cannon, and here is the king of the submarine !!! For more than a dozen years, tourists will use this miracle of engineering !!! But we like to cut everything and throw the skeleton in the backwater ...
Who makes decisions there .... ??? "Shark" to the museum !!! Find her a place, be it in Murmansk, Vladivostok, St. Petersburg .... do not spare the money !!!!

[aszzz888]

NasRat (Evlampy Spiridonovich)
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Turn this boat into a museum .. !!! I understand, there is a Vigorous installation ..., but the eprst is the king of the cannon, and here is the king of the submarine !!! For more than a dozen years, tourists will use this miracle of engineering !!! But we like to cut everything and throw the skeleton in the backwater ...
Who makes decisions there .... ??? "Shark" to the museum !!! Find her a place, be it in Murmansk, Vladivostok, St. Petersburg ... spare no money !!!!

! That's exactly what it all comes down to. Rather, in their absence. Although, if you convince the Supreme, they will find plenty of them.

[Nasrat]

Quote: aszzz888

... That’s exactly what it all comes down to. Rather, in their absence.

Here we always have so ... no money to make money ..... from time immemorial so !!
And in fact - tourists will trample and shuffle the cover of this tray, to the holes ... !!!

[aszzz888]

NasRat (Evlampy Spiridonovich)
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... That’s exactly what it all comes down to. Rather, in their absence.

Here we always have ... no money to make money ... tourists will trample the cover of this trays to the holes ... !!!

Who would argue. Chinese tourists alone can make more than one city budget.

[Nasrat]

Quote: aszzz888

Who would argue. Chinese tourists alone can make more than one city budget.

For Vladik, this will be a great magnet for tourists! ...
And if by a miracle move this boat to the Black Sea coast ....... I think every vacationer would want to look at the carrier of Kuz'ka's mother ...
And I think Peter will only be in the black ...

[carstorm 11]

You will all listen to so many places to put this monster in the tourist accessibility. Only this is not true at all. Do you even understand its size?

[Alex777]

Interestingly, and as the carrier of Poseidons, the Shark was not considered? Many of them could be placed there.

[Bad_gr]

Project 941 "Shark"

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[Bad_gr]

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[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: Nasr

covering this trays

Padlots, sir. Learn Albany the real way.

[Nasrat]

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Quote: Nasr

covering this trays

Padlots, sstrike. Learn Albany the real way.

This is humor ??? ... if not, then it would be correct .... covering this submarines..
mistakes happen ...

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Nasr

It's always like this with us ...

good "mikhan" bark ... served his Cruiser ... give Salute ....

[Lesorub]

Quote: aszzz888

! That's exactly what it all comes down to. Rather, in their absence.

Lack of money))) In a country where almost the entire periodic table is mined!
As for the boats of Project 941 - I don't want to go deep - what and how and for what money this series was scrapped - it is clear one thing could serve after proper modernization and as carriers of ICBMs and CDs.
In England and France, boats of the Trafalgar and Triumfan projects are still in service - the same age as our Sharks, but if they really write off (the last representative) - then the need to create a museum is obvious.

[3danimal]

In the list of the top ten richest countries, there is not one whose main income is the sale of raw materials. A reason to think.
The third economy in the world is Japan, where hydrocarbons are not produced at all. Cheating?

[Tiksi-3]

Quote: Nasr

Find her a place, be it in Murmansk, Vladivostok, St. Petersburg .... do not spare the money !!!!

Of course, you need to go to St. Petersburg with a copy of a nuclear reactor, and dispose of the original from the boat, though it's worth it, Mom, don't worry, but there will be a horde of tourists from all over the world!

[Nasrat]

Quote: Tiksi-3

... and with a copy of a nuclear reactor, and dispose of the original from the boat ...

It will be great! +

[Zhan]

Who makes decisions there .... ??? "Shark" to the museum !!! Find her a place, be it in Murmansk, Vladivostok, St. Petersburg .... do not spare the money !!!!

Or maybe better in an underwater hydrographic scientific cruiser?
Imagine how much more benefit it will bring? Offshore exploration, exploration of the oceans will be an invaluable gift for oceanographers and hydrographers. Can you imagine how many different robots and equipment can be placed in mines? It will be beneficial for everyone, both the military and science and geologists. This is a super base for underwater exploration. After all, we have studied the depths of the ocean no more than 10%. A? How do you like the idea? Yes, a lot of money is needed, but I think it's worth it.

[Grits]

Quote: Zhan

Yes, a lot of money is needed, but I think it's worth it.

If you throw a cry and propose to the scientific world to create on its basis such an international scientific station (like the ISS), then I think there will be money.

[K298rtm]

Its body is more than 40 years old - metal fatigue, etc.

[Zhan]

Quote: K298rtm

Its body is more than 40 years old - metal fatigue, etc.

You know we have a ship in the Navy.

And this ship is a lifeguard, made of steel from the Putilovsky plant, with a high content of sulfur and phosphorus. And it is still in service! Are our modern steel grades, especially the Admiralty ones, worse than 110 years ago? I will never believe it. Moreover, the working depth of immersion is 400 meters, the limiting depth is 500. The thickness of the durable body is 100 mm. Yes, there will be problems between a light and durable case, but after all, it's all maintainable. Make a flaw detection of the vessel, Two reactors of 150 mW each! Is this leviathan easier to dispose of?

[K298rtm]

1. Personally, I am for the creation of a museum or a simulator for training (practicing) submariners.
2. In Severodvinsk, 2 younger units are awaiting disposal.

[Lesorub]

Quote: Zhan

Is this leviathan easier to dispose of?

After reading the comments, you understand that a small part of the members of the forum understands what is happening - for many it is better to make a museum or on pins and needles - send the last representative of boats - in which the scientific potential and enormous financial resources have been invested, which in the current situation is simply not realistic to reproduce!
I agree with you both steel and reactors - they could have served for a very long time - carrying out scheduled repairs and modernization.
Conclusion - talentless politicians have ruined what could have defended the country for more than a dozen years!

[Scharnhorst]

And why is Balaklava worse !? And reactors for generating electricity will come in handy. Cars are classified as rarities after fifty, so it's too early to visit the museum! Let's convert it into an underwater LNG carrier, do you know the current prices for LNG in Asia? But seriously, there is nothing outstanding in the "water carrier", except for its hypertrophied dimensions, otherwise it would serve to this day instead of dolphins and squids. Although I'm also sorry ...

[Grits]

Quote: Nasr

Find her a place, be it in Murmansk, Vladivostok, St. Petersburg .... do not spare the money !!!!

This ship is permanently based at the White Sea base in Severodvinsk. since this is not a combat ship, and a test bench. And only one missile is loaded in it - "Bulava" in one "working" missile silo. Making it a museum in Severodvinsk is stupid. The cat cried out there for the foreigners. And among the inhabitants of the city, 100% of the population saw submarines - they are not a wonder. And the boats themselves were probably a quarter of the entire population.
Such a museum is needed only in the city center - otherwise tourists will not see it. In Murmansk, there is nowhere to put it, and so there is no one for anyone. In my native Vladivostok, I don't see such a place that I don't see the devil in the middle of nowhere. The best option is Peter.

[paul3390]

"Shark" to the museum !!! Find her a place, be it in Murmansk, Vladivostok, St. Petersburg .... spare some money !!!!

Drive into the Moscow River ... And put opposite the Kremlin ... Call it "Aurora" ..

[Charik]

Saw Shura Saw they are gold cut into metal. (TK-202 Withdrawn from the fleet. Utilization will begin after 2005 (TK-12 Withdrawn from the fleet. Utilization will begin after 13 (

[Togilen]

How much girls take offense at the truth

[Errr]

From the article:

Until the Belgorod special-purpose nuclear submarine appeared, which is being tested and will be equipped with the Poseidon super-powerful nuclear robotic torpedoes, the Dmitry Donskoy submarine was the largest submarine on the planet.

But there is no need to write nonsense. Compared to the size of the project 941 TRPKSN "Belgorod" looks like a small latch. Sharks are the planet's largest submarines of all time. No one will ever build such monsters again.

[aszzz888]

Errr
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From the article:
Until the Belgorod special-purpose nuclear submarine appeared, which is being tested and will be equipped with the Poseidon super-powerful nuclear robotic torpedoes, the Dmitry Donskoy submarine was the largest submarine on the planet.
But there is no need to write nonsense. Compared to the size of the project 941 TRPKSN "Belgorod" looks like an undersized latch. smile Sharks are the largest submarines on the planet of all time. No one will ever build such monsters again.

Yes. "Monster" is really a monster.

[Grits]

Quote: aszzz888

Yes. "Monster" is really a monster.

In the early 90s, I was lucky to visit one. I was just shocked.

[Ka-52]

No one will ever build such monsters again.

what for? The form factor of the rockets determines the size of the carrier. Smaller dimensions reduce internal volume and wash surface

[Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich]

It is believed that the Sharks were designed so large that they could break through very thick ice in the Arctic. This required an increased displacement, hence the enormous size

[Ka-52]

This required an increased displacement, hence the enormous size

I'm not a submariner, but I think it has nothing to do with it. Sharks carry P-39 SLBMs, and this is the largest Kuz'kina mother of all SLBMs

[Eldorado]

The "Sharks" were made so that they could carry the P-39. They managed to make this rocket so huge that the designers of the TRPKSN had to make a catamaran-type hull.

[Grits]

Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich

It is believed that the Sharks were designed so large that they could break through very thick ice in the Arctic. This required an increased displacement, hence the enormous size

A bit wrong. Our designers decided to chase the Americans and create a solid-propellant powerful ballistic missile similar to them. But, like everything else with us, such a rocket turned out to be large - 16 m high and 2 m in diameter. So they tried to fit 20 such giants into the ship's hull. Rather, in five buildings. Accordingly, its displacement is enormous. It is not for nothing that sailors call them "water carriers" - imagine how much water a ship carries on itself between a strong and light hull.

[voyaka uh]

No. The rockets were very long.
And I had to make a separate building for them in the middle. And two more cases on the sides.

The boat is considered a "five-hull"

[BDRM 667]

Quote: voyaka uh

The rockets were very long.
And I had to make a separate building for them in the middle.

Well, and what kind of body for missiles, if you have launch containers (position 8)?

Quote: voyaka uh

The boat is considered a "five-hull"

There is no such thing in submarine shipbuilding.

There is :
- monohull boats (as exotic);

- one-and-a-half-case;

- two-case.

[Eldorado]

TK-208 is larger than K-329, but the latter is longer.

[Errr]

Quote: El Dorado

TK-208 is larger than K-329, but the latter is longer.

It is what it is. Meters by 11.

[Sayan]

Will serve again, I saw this monster live in Kronstadt, after the parade on the day of the Navy - inspires!

[Hunter 2]

I'd like very much that the Shark (941 projects) Dmitry Donskoy, not cut on pins and needles, but kept as a Museum!

[Crowe]

The era is leaving with them ... First Sergey Nikitich

Photo: Rubin Central Design Bureau Archive
General designer of Soviet nuclear-powered strategic submarines. Twice Hero of Socialist Labor, laureate of the Lenin Prize and the State Prize of the USSR, the Russian Federation, holder of four Orders of Lenin, holder of the Order of the October Revolution, full member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Doctor of Technical Sciences.
Sergey Kovalev: "I don’t know of a more interesting and exciting activity than sea trials of lead submarines ..."
now, soon, his brainchild, "Dmitry Donskoy" ... It somehow became sad, although nothing lasts forever in this world, of course ...

[seregatara1969]

To the author of the article - and how many terms?

[Pavel57]

I could still serve for 20 years.

[Eldorado]

But what a 20, the cruiser is 40 years old, there are already outboard fittings, the route cable and the reactor have worked out all the terms.

[Bashkirkhan]

The cruiser is already 40 years old, he served his own. In the 20s, this radioactive legacy of the totalitarian past will be utilized by Rosatom

[svoit]

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, Peter .... take the money !!!!

I was not her more than once, and I would have gone to St. Petersburg, there is no need for a lot of money, it will pay off quickly

[tralflot1832]

They looked beautiful in PD 50, took up a lot of space in the dock. On the surface it was impressive near the Rybachy Peninsula, and in the dock it was in all its glory, the size cannot be conveyed. Of course, they could have left it as a keepsake, you just need to find a "passable" place!

[mark1]

Dmitry Donskoy - acting submerged stand, why not serve it further, and so two more boats 941 stand, they ask to the museum.

[Grits]

Quote: mark1

and so two more boats 941 stand, they ask to the museum.

My opinion is that they are asking to join the fleet. As carriers of 100 Caliber cruise missiles. Such ships-arsenals. When approaching the shore of some enemy unfinished or Papuan of such a ship, the entire personnel of the armies of these countries, together with the generals, the government and some kind of "great Khural" begin to dig themselves into the ground out of fear.

[mark1]

Quote: Gritsa

My opinion is that they are asking to join the fleet.

Yes, I am your associate in this matter, but the circumstances (I do not know their titles and surnames) seem to be against them

[Oleksandr Morozov]

Quote: svoit

Quote: Nasr

, Peter .... take the money !!!!

I was not her more than once, and I would have gone to St. Petersburg, there is no need for a lot of money, it will pay off quickly

I agree in St. Petersburg and on the embankment, there would be a tourist hit without question.

[Scharnhorst]

Peter already has enough beauty! To shake it up and the joint venture in Shanghai, and the new aircraft carrier is profitable!

[Freedim]

Yes, yes .. Instead of cutting into needles, run aground, pour concrete .. make a museum .. with operating launchers ... If he cannot dive, this does not mean that he will not shoot.

[Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
It is believed that the Sharks were designed so large that they could break through very thick ice in the Arctic. This required an increased displacement, hence the enormous size

A bit wrong. Our designers decided to chase the Americans and create a solid-propellant powerful ballistic missile similar to them. But, like everything else with us, such a rocket turned out to be large - 16 m high and 2 m in diameter. So they tried to fit 20 such giants into the ship's hull. Rather, in five buildings. Accordingly, its displacement is enormous. It is not for nothing that sailors call them "water carriers" - imagine how much water a ship carries on itself between a strong and light hull.

Yes, of course you are right, but at the same time, we must not forget - the area of ​​the alleged combat patrolling of Sharks - the Arctic Ocean, or rather the depths under the ice of the Arctic Ocean.
Accordingly, for a salvo it is necessary to surface - the boat cannot shoot through the ice. Obviously, during the ascent, the boat will break through the same ice with its hull. And the greater the displacement of the boat, the thicker the ice shell it will break through.
Is not it so?

[Tests]

Gritsa (Alexander), dear, experts from "Arctic" many years ago said that they could not give guarantees for cables and equipment at "Arkhangelsk" and "Severstal". In 2019, the sakeries from the Russian Ministry of Defense promised to equip both of these ships with "Calibers", 200 pieces on each, and sabotaged for the media. True, for the media, these figures did not say anything about the induced radioactivity ... The crew of these ships does not in vain have preferential length of service and ration, which differs from the ration of an infantryman. Unfortunately, some of those who stood on "Dmitry Donskoy" at the Main Naval Parade in Kronstadt and whom television cameras showed there are not in service today - oncology ... Arkhangelsk region, thanks to my dear Severodvinsk, Plesetsk cosmodrome, peaceful nuclear explosions in oncology in the country for two or three years takes a terrible first place ...
Of course, next to the S-189 and the icebreaker "Krasin", "Dmitry Donskoy" would look wonderful at the Lieutenant Schmidt embankment in St. Petersburg, but this is just the case when you need to measure 7 times, cut off and dispose of in Andreeva Bay, and it seems that they should think over and do it as safely as possible for visitors ... Yes, the leaders of the Vasileostorovsky district would not be a sin to solve the issue of toilets on the embankment, there is a queue at C-189. During this New Year's holidays, the authorities of St. Petersburg were able to solve the problems with toilets around the Winter Palace , however, there were few tourists in the city ... The USSR had a good experience, "Lembit" was turned into a museum on the water and stood at the Olympic sailing center in Pirita in Tallinn. Even having joined NATO, Estonia "Lembit" until 2011 as a museum kept a boat on the water.

[Charik]

In two weeks, all the terms for the submarine fleet until the 30th year were designated