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Georgian tsars begged to be accepted into Russian citizenship

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Georgian tsars begged to be accepted into Russian citizenship
Alaverdi monastery


Georgia asks for Russian patronage


After the end of the Troubles in Russia, the Georgian tsars and the prince again began to ask for the protection of Russia.

In 1619, the Kakhetian king Teimuraz asked the Russian sovereign Mikhail Fedorovich to protect him from the persecution of the Persians. Moscow, respecting the request of the Georgian ruler, asked Shah Abas not to oppress Georgia. The shah satisfied the desire of the Russian kingdom.

In 1636, Teimuraz asked Moscow for patronage and military assistance. The Russian embassy arrived at Tsar Teimuraz. And he signed a kissing record in 1639.

In 1638, the Megrelian prince Leonty asked Moscow for patronage.

In 1648, Tsar Alexander III of Imereti asked the Russian Tsar to accept him, along with the kingdom, into citizenship.

In 1651, the Russian embassy (Tolochanov and Ievlev) was received in Imereti. On September 14, the Imeretian Tsar Alexander kissed the cross of allegiance to Moscow, on October 9 he signed a kissing record:

“I, Tsar Alexander, kiss this holy and life-giving cross of the Lord ... and with all his state of being the great sovereign of my Tsar and the Great Prince Alexei Mikhailovich of all Russia, the autocrat in all his sovereign will and in eternal servility forever relentless, and henceforth, whom will God give to the sovereign of children will give ".

In 1653, Tsar Teimuraz sent his only remaining heir to Russia - his grandson Heraclius.

In 1659, the rulers of the Tushins, Khevsurs and Pshavs (ethnographic groups of Georgians) sent a request to the Russian Tsar Alexei to accept them as citizenship.

In 1658 Teimuraz went to Moscow and asked for military help. Soon the Persians seized Teimuraz and rotted away in prison. However, the Russian state at this time was solving a more important task - there was a difficult and long war with Poland for the West Russian lands. And after the victory over the Poles, Russia grabbed hold of Ukraine and Turkey (Russian-Turkish war of 1672-1681). The western and southwestern strategic directions were in priority.

Russia had no time for the Caucasus yet.

The threat of complete destruction of Eastern Georgia


At that time, an even more complicated situation developed in Kakheti.

Shah Abbas II began to populate Kakheti by the Turks (Turkmens). About 80 thousand people were resettled. Deserted Georgia found itself under the threat of complete assimilation and cultural and ethnic degeneration. The Turkmens were engaged in cattle breeding and seized the flat lands. Blooming fields, orchards, vineyards were turned into pastures.

The Georgians were under threat of death due to the destruction of the basis of their economy. The mountain tribes of the Tushins, Khevsurs and Pshavs also came under attack. They exchanged livestock products with farmers. During the military threat, the inhabitants of the plains fled to the mountains, the mountaineers took them for a while. The invasion of the Turkmens also threatened Kartli. In fact, Eastern Georgia could soon disappear.

In 1659-1660 the people revolted. The revolt was supported by the Tushins, Khevsurs and Pshavs.

The Georgians defeated the Turkmens and occupied the two main strongholds of the enemy - the Bakhtrioni fortress and the Alaverdi monastery. The surviving Turks fled from Georgia.

The people were saved.

However, by order of the enraged shah, the Kartli king Vakhtang had to execute one of the leaders of the uprising, Eristav Zaal. Eristav - a major feudal lord, the ruler of the province, the Georgian aristocratic hierarchy, this title occupied the third place after kings and sovereign princes.

Other leaders of the rebels (Shalva, Elizbar and Bidzina) themselves came to the Persian Shah to save the people from invasion. They were tortured to death by the Persians. Subsequently, these heroes were canonized. After the Bakhtrion uprising, Kakheti was also subordinated to Vakhtang, who converted to Islam.

Meanwhile, the grandson of Teimuraz, Tsarevich Irakli, returned to Georgia from Russia. He raised an uprising against Tsar Vakhtang. However, he could not win over Vakhtang. He allowed Irakli to flee to Russia (he did not want to spoil relations with Moscow).

After the death of Tsar Vakhtang V, the Persians handed over the throne to Tsarevich George, although Archil should have inherited it. Offended Archil with his children left for Russia in 1683. He asked to give him an army to win back the patrimony. But Russia at that time was bound by the Turkish problem.

Archil returned to Georgia and tried to seize Imereti. In 1691 he managed to take the capital of Kutaisi. He could not hold out for a long time, he was expelled by the Turks. He returned to Moscow and lived there until his death in 1713.

At this time, Georgia again became a battlefield between Persia and Turkey.

Georgian troops were forced to fight for the Persians in Afghanistan. Therefore, several Georgian kings with their families, bishops and retinue fled to the Russian kingdom. After Archil, Vakhtang VI Kartalinsky and Teimuraz II Kakheti arrived in Moscow.

They remained in Russia until the end of their days and begged the Russian sovereigns to accept their peoples into Russian citizenship.

Russians come to the South Caucasus


Tsar Peter the Great had a strategic vision and planned to expand the Russian sphere of influence to the south.

After the victory over Sweden, Russia was going to occupy the western part of the Caspian Sea coast and pave the way to the southern countries. Georgia played an important role in these plans. Relations were established with the Kartli king Vakhtang VI.

In 1722, Russian troops occupied Derbent, in 1723 - the lands under the control of the Persian shah in the south of the Caspian Sea, Baku (How Peter I cut through the "door" to the East, Part 2).

Because of the war by the Turks, the Persian Shah Tahmasib signed the Petersburg Treaty. Iran recognized Derbent, Baku, Lankaran, Rasht for Russia and gave way to Gilan, Mazandaran and Astrabad. Thus, the entire western and southern coast of the Caspian Sea went to the Russian Empire.

At the same time, the Armenian representatives asked for Russian citizenship.

In 1724, Tsar Peter granted their request. He planned to start a new war against Turkey, which was to lead to the annexation of vast territories of the Transcaucasus (Georgian and Armenian) to the Russian Empire. But, unfortunately, he died soon after.

After Peter's departure, a period of decline began in Russia. The new rulers of Russia did not have a strategic vision. A struggle for power began in St. Petersburg, it was no time for Georgia and Armenia.

All attention, forces and means were focused on palace intrigues, the struggle for power and wealth. The treasury was plundered, the army and especially the navy were weakening.

The government of Anna Ioannovna, preparing for a war with Turkey, decided to return the occupied lands to the shah. Russian troops were withdrawn.

As a result, the annexation of the South Caucasus to Russia was postponed.


The capture of the fortress of Derbent by Peter the Great during the Persian campaign in 1722. Lithograph. Published by Andrey Abramov. 1872. Militaryhistorical Museum of Artillery, Engineering and Signal Corps

War with the Turks


They returned to Caucasian affairs in St. Petersburg already under Catherine II, during whose reign Russia brilliantly solved several centuries-old strategic foreign policy and national tasks.

In 1768, the Imeretian king Solomon, suffering defeat from the Ottomans, asked the Russian empress for help.

This proposal was in line with the plans of the Russian government, which wanted to involve the Christian peoples of the Caucasus in the struggle against the Ottoman Empire. At the beginning of 1769, Prince Khvabulov was sent to the kings Solomon and Heraclius II (Kingdom of Kartli-Kakheti) with a corresponding proposal.

Both tsars welcomed the Russian ambassador well, but declared that they themselves (without Russian military support) could not fight. They asked to send Russian troops.

However, the main forces of Russia were on the Danube front. And it was impossible to send large forces to the Caucasus.

In Mozdok, a small detachment of General Gottlob von Totleben (500 people) was assembled. In August 1769, Russian troops crossed the Main Caucasian ridge in the valley of the Terek and Aragvi rivers in the direction of the future Georgian Military Highway. At the end of August, Tsar Heraclius met Totleben's detachment at the Gudauri Pass.

The Russians entered Imereti. The Georgians and Imeretians promised that they would clear the roads and prepare provisions, but they did not keep their word. The Russians had to go with great difficulty through the mountainous country, through the terrain ravaged by wars.

Totleben's detachment laid siege to the strong and well-defended Shoropan fortress. King Solomon, busy with internal squabbles, did not provide any help. Lacking supplies, the Russian troops suffered from disease and hunger. After several unsuccessful attempts to take the fortress, Totleben lifted the siege and took the detachment to Kartli.

Meanwhile, King Heraclius asked for help against the Ottomans.

Totleben's squad, exhausted by disease and hunger, could not help. The Russian command decided to strengthen the troops in the Caucasian direction. Totleben's detachment was strengthened to 3,7 thousand people.

In March 1770, when small reinforcements arrived, Totleben joined up with the 7 thousand army of Heraclius. The combined forces moved to the main stronghold of the Turks in the Transcaucasus - Akhaltsykh.

However, Totleben and Irakli did not agree in character. The general began to intrigue in favor of Heraclius' opponents. The Russian detachment returned to Kartli, then began to fight successfully in Imereti.

Irakli independently defeated the enemy near the village of Aspindza, but did not take advantage of the victory to capture the defenseless Akhaltsykh, and returned to Tiflis. Then the Russian-Georgian troops captured the fortresses of Bagdat and Kutais. Totleben decided to make his way to the Black Sea coast. The Russian detachment defeated the Turkish corps, took the fortresses of Rukhi and Anaklia, and laid siege to Poti. It was not possible to take the well-fortified Poti, Totleben retreated.

In 1772, Russian troops were withdrawn from the Caucasus.

St. George's treatise


Back in December 1771, Tsar Heraclius swore allegiance to Empress Catherine.

In December 1782, this oath was sworn. The Kartli-Kakhetian king officially asked Petersburg for patronage.

On July 24 (August 4), 1783, an agreement was signed in the Russian military fortress Georgievsk in the North Caucasus

"On the recognition by the tsar of the Kartalin and Kakhetian Irakli and the patronage and supreme power of Russia."

On the Russian side, the treatise was signed by Pavel Potemkin (brother of His Serene Highness Prince G. Potemkin) and on the Georgian side - by princes Ivane Bagration-Mukhransky and Gersevan Chavchavadze.

Irakli recognized the power of Petersburg and partially renounced an independent foreign policy, pledged to help the Russians with his troops. Russia acted as the guarantor of the integrity of Georgia. Kartli-Kakheti retained internal autonomy.

Interestingly, this document first used the following concepts:

"Georgian peoples", "Georgian kings" and "Georgian church".

Later in Russia in documents it became commonplace.

In fact, in the future, it was Russia, through heavy and bloody wars with Turkey and Persia, with its unifying and cultural-national policy, that created from local independent kingdoms, principalities, lands, various ethnic groups, tribes and clans a single Georgia and the Georgian people.

Without the Russians, there would never have been any Georgia.

The Russians improved the Georgian Military Road. A Russian detachment entered Tiflis.

In 1794, the Persian army of the Persian Shah Agha Mohammed Qajar invaded Georgia. She ravaged the entire Georgian land. Russia did not yet have serious forces in the Caucasus, so the invasion was successful.

In 1795, the Persians defeated the army of King Heraclius and Solomon II and took Tiflis. The city was completely carved out and burned out. Catherine the Great planned to punish Persia and strengthen its position in the Transcaucasus. In fact, she continued the policy of Peter in the region.

In 1796, the Caspian Corps of Zubov was formed, which was supported by the Caspian flotilla... Russian troops took Derbent. Tsar Heraclius II led a successful offensive in his sector. Then Zubov's corps took Baku, the Baku, Shemakha and Sheki khans took the oath of office to Russia.

Zubov was preparing a deep invasion of Persia (Punishment of "non-peaceful" Persia - campaign of 1796), which at that time was in deep crisis.

But the death of Catherine II, as well as the departure of Pyotr Alekseevich, interrupted Russia's advance in the Caucasus.

Emperor Pavel Petrovich, in opposition to his mother, withdrew Russian troops from the Caucasus. True, he was a completely reasonable person, despite

"Black myth"

about Paul (The myth of the "mad emperor" Paul I; Knight on the throne).

And soon Georgia was admitted to the Russian Empire.


Heraclius II, tsar of the Kartli-Kakhetian kingdom
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  1. sleeve
    sleeve 18 January 2021 05: 43
    +13
    In general, of course, an interesting nuance. Studying the history of Russia's actions in the Caucasus, one reads through the word about the local peoples "they did not keep their word," "they did not fulfill their promise," "betrayed" ... It is clear that the "guyars", it is clear that it is "necessary" to do so. But in response, for some reason, everyone was waiting for a chivalrous attitude. And so far it is ...
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 18 January 2021 05: 54
      +18
      Modern Georgians will say that it was Russia who occupied Georgia and they will not say a word about how Russia saved them from extermination by the Turks and Persians. Such is the gratitude that after 2008, after the attack on our peacekeepers, Georgia entered a new stage of relations with Russia and Turkey.
      Let's see if Georgians learn a lesson from their history.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 18 January 2021 06: 12
        +7
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Let's see if Georgians learn a lesson from their history.

        Of course not.
        They just don't know how to do it
      2. Crowe
        Crowe 18 January 2021 06: 27
        +15
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Russia saved them from extermination by the Turks and Persians

        "Do not do good - you will not get evil"
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Such a gratitude

        The meanness is terrible. Cunning is heavy.
        But the hardest part is ingratitude.
      3. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 18 January 2021 11: 01
        -9
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Such a gratitude

        Yes, enough already to rush with some kind of "gratitude". That you are all waiting for grateful curtsies from everyone whom Russia protected or freed in some shaggy times? Not tired? Straight Georgians or Bulgarians should go to bed in grateful snot with a Russian flag under their pillow? Well, it's funny.
        1. Alexander Suvorov
          Alexander Suvorov 18 January 2021 14: 52
          +11
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          stop running around with some kind of "gratitude"
          Of course, not gratitude is a human feeling, but to show it openly is disgusting!
          Let's just say, you helped the old woman to cross the road, and instead of "thank you" she will spit in the back, how do you deal? What, now we will not help any old woman ?!
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 18 January 2021 15: 57
            -7
            Quote: Alexander Suvorov
            Let's just say, you helped the old woman to cross the road, and instead of "thank you" she will spit in the back, how do you deal? What, now we will not help any old woman ?!

            Did you move your grandmother across the street a hundred years ago and now you demand constant expressions of gratitude from her great-grandchildren? Are you serious? laughing
            1. Alexander Suvorov
              Alexander Suvorov 18 January 2021 16: 19
              +11
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Did you move your grandmother across the street a hundred years ago and now you demand constant expressions of gratitude from her great-grandchildren? Are you serious?
              Excuse me, are you really sick or are you just pretending? All her life Russia did nothing but save all Georgians, Bulgarians and others from complete cutting out and extinction. And by the way it continues to do it.
              The same Bulgarians were offered "South Stream" from which they would not have fed sourly, but the "brothers" once again caved in under the ovaries and, to the evil of their mother, froze their ears, in the sense that they were left without transit and without gas. Or is Russia to blame for this ?!
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 18 January 2021 17: 27
                -7
                Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                Excuse me, are you really sick or are you just pretending?

                That is, do you consider your passage about the grandmother a sign of mental health?
                Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                All her life Russia did nothing but save all Georgians, Bulgarians and others from complete cutting out and extinction.

                Let's admit. What do you expect from them? To have the same headline in tomorrow's newspaper?
                Quote: Alexander Suvorov
                The same Bulgarians were offered South Stream

                Is this a charity project? Are we saving them again, or what? Gazprom does not care, "brothers" or "sisters" at the other end of the pipe.
                1. Vladimir Mashkov
                  Vladimir Mashkov 19 January 2021 16: 36
                  0
                  And again the lands plentifully watered with Russian blood for the sake of saving the destroyed peoples ... And again the black ingratitude and betrayal of the dastardly forgetful descendants ...
      4. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 18 January 2021 15: 17
        +2
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        how Russia saved them from extermination by the Turks and Persians.

        They are still between a rock and a hard place. The Turks have not disappeared anywhere! Russia too! To Georgians, falling under the Turks means disappearing as a people. Russia will develop and protect. But does Russia need it!
        1. Petro_tut
          Petro_tut 21 January 2021 22: 11
          +1
          Russia nafig needs it, we already know who the inhabitants of Georgia are, let them save themselves
    2. Bar1
      Bar1 18 January 2021 09: 35
      -3
      Everything about the Caucasus is very complicated, but until the facts that are ignored by academic science are taken into account: the whole alignment of the past is not clear. For example: the presence of the Cherkasy Cossacks, who just lived in the North Caucasus. The appearance of peoples who replaced the Cossacks, for example, the Circassians / Adygs.
      OI pays little attention to old names
      -Caspian Sea-Khvalynskoe / Galenskoe, Bachye Sea.
      -Ingushetia-Helia
      -Caborda- what is it?
      1. Alexander Suvorov
        Alexander Suvorov 18 January 2021 14: 54
        +7
        Bar1 (Timur)
        -Caspian Sea-Khvalynskoe / Galenskoe, Bachye Sea.
        -Ingushetia-Helia
        -Caborda- what is it?
        Is it an open door again in the madhouse?
        1. Bar1
          Bar1 18 January 2021 15: 22
          0
          Quote: Alexander Suvorov
          Is it an open door again in the madhouse?

          darkness...
  2. RealPilot
    RealPilot 18 January 2021 05: 51
    +3
    Interesting article, thanks!
    New historical moments for me personally ...
    1. RealPilot
      RealPilot 18 January 2021 06: 12
      +6
      And indeed, you understand after that the price of alliances and agreements. How events developed "for a long time".

      And if at the moment we have situational fellow travelers like Turkey and Iran, with whom we fought before, then we should not forget about these facts. For these temporary alliances are on the sand! And everyone has their own interests in the region, and have changed only slightly over the centuries.

      But the protected peoples, who owe us their present existence, because they would not have been so proud and free otherwise, feel hatred for Russia such as our enemies never dreamed of ...

      Alas, Georgians and other "fraternal" ones will all the same start singing about unity with Russia, as soon as the cycle of power of our Motherland changes phase, they will have to be taken again. And forgive for the common good and safety.

      These processes have been going on for centuries, they are objective. Politicians will leave, generations will change ... And new people will continue their old games again!
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 18 January 2021 06: 19
        +5
        And it was necessary to clean up the Caucasus well and completely populate it with Russians, so that there would be no problems in the future, with this I completely agree with the Anglo-Saxons, they came, cleaned the territory and settled with their own.
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 18 January 2021 10: 21
          -7
          [quote = Pessimist22] And it was necessary to clean up the Caucasus well and completely populate it with Russians so that there would be no problems in the future, [quote]
          That is, when the Turks cleansed the Armenians, it was genocide, it is unacceptable. And if RI put the entire Caucasus under the knife - would that be normal? That is, there are “right” and “wrong” forms of genocide - is that right?
          [Quote] with this, I completely agree with the Anglo-Saxons, they came, cleared the territory and settled with their own. [/ quote]
          Look how it is ... That is, in principle, you agree with the methods of the Fuhrer to expand the Lebensraum?
        2. Bilal
          Bilal 18 January 2021 10: 41
          0
          But it should have been good clean out Caucasus and completely populate with Russians


          That is, to exterminate ... And so many advantages were obtained ... It's good that in Russia there are few such "humane", "pious" creatures ...
          1. pmkemcity
            pmkemcity 18 January 2021 11: 37
            +1
            Quote: Bilal
            That is, to exterminate ... And so many advantages were obtained ... It's good that in Russia there are few such "humane", "pious" creatures ...

            Why exterminate immediately? The Caucasian war lasted exactly until the moment when they gathered half a million Adygs and showed them the way to fraternal Turkey. But even there they do not want to live peacefully, and are still considered the most notorious bandits.
            1. Bilal
              Bilal 18 January 2021 11: 45
              -3
              pmkemcity (Paul) Today, 11:37

              Why exterminate immediately?


              And how would you like to understand when it comes to the complete settlement of Russians ...
              1. pmkemcity
                pmkemcity 18 January 2021 11: 55
                -2
                Quote: Bilal
                And how would you like to understand when it comes to the complete settlement of Russians ...

                Yes, just understand - suitcase, station, Tbilisi! On the "Komsomol ticket".
            2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 18 January 2021 14: 24
              -5
              Quote: pmkemcity
              The Caucasian war lasted exactly until the moment when half a million Circassians were gathered

              Comrade Putin ended the Caucasian War (more precisely, bought the world).
              Quote: pmkemcity
              Why exterminate immediately?

              Because it was said so -
              Quote: Pessimist22
              it was necessary to clean the Caucasus well

              And, judging by the analogy with the British, this commentator meant exactly what he said - to do as with the North American Indians and the Aborigines of Australia.
              1. pmkemcity
                pmkemcity 18 January 2021 15: 40
                -1
                Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                this commentator meant

                Why think out for the author of the comment? Wiktionary: "Cleansing" is a common name for security measures in settlements to search premises and check documents.
                Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Comrade Putin ended the Caucasian War (more precisely, bought the world).

                To paraphrase a classic - comrades in Paris!
                What is what? I dreamed
                Uncle Putin on horseback:

                With Putin under the red flag
                I'm ready to attack!
                1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                  Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 18 January 2021 16: 06
                  -7
                  What is this splint for? Are you an hour out of the Dementy "Putin's Detachments"?
                  1. pmkemcity
                    pmkemcity 18 January 2021 16: 10
                    +2
                    Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                    What is this splint for?

                    This "splint" shows the face of the true instigators of the Caucasian War and how to fight. And the battle continues again - this is about "the end of the Caucasian war."
                    Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                    Are you not one of the Dementy "Putin's Detachments" for an hour?

                    No.
    2. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 18 January 2021 08: 34
      +6
      Quote: RealPilot
      New historical moments for me personally ...

      Not on the topic of the article, sorry, but decided to write.
      The first photo for the article shows the Alaverdi monastery, when I was in Transcaucasia back in Soviet times I heard the word "alaverdi", I thought it might have something to do with it.
      Alaverdi - from Arabic "allah-god, verdi-dal", which literally means God gave. However, this expression in the vocabulary has a different interpretation and means "I give, you take." The word "Alaverdi" in different peoples of the former USSR is interpreted differently. However, now this word is used most often in Georgia, and directly at feasts. The essence of alaverda at a Georgian feast is to pass on his word after the toast to a specific person, after which that person should continue the toast and drink strictly after the one who gave him the alaverdi ... The historic Alaverdi Monastery, in addition to spirituality, is also famous for its cellar, which stores wines made using unique technologies.
      Based on the similarity in the drinking alaverdi and the monastery of Alaverdi, often to the guest to whom the alaverdi passed, he answers: let the power and grace of Alaverdi be with you. https://allgeotrip.ru/stati/alaverdy
      Sorry again, alaverdi drinks
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 18 January 2021 09: 49
        0
        Quote: Anatol Klim
        Sorry again, alaverdi

        Alaverdi drinks smile
      2. Bilal
        Bilal 18 January 2021 10: 52
        -1
        Alaverdi - from Arabic "allah-god, verdi-dal", which literally means God gave.


        The word ALLAH is indeed taken from Arabic, which means "GOD". But VERDİ is not Arabic, but Turkic. And it really means "GIVEN".
        And if we take the second meaning ALA - take (or take), VERDİ - gave it all the same, the phrase is Turkic.
  3. Comrade
    Comrade 18 January 2021 06: 08
    +9
    Georgian tsars begged to be accepted into Russian citizenship

    The main hope in the life of a parasite is to wait for the day when it will be possible to spit in the face of the benefactor.
    Which Georgia did.


    In the photo - the museum of the "occupation" of Georgia.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 18 January 2021 06: 11
      +3
      Quote: Comrade
      Which Georgia did.

      Yes, not only Georgia.
      The non-brothers have made it even worse
  4. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 18 January 2021 06: 10
    +2

    After the end of the Troubles in Russia, the Georgian tsars and the prince again began to ask for the protection of Russia.

    In 1619, the Kakhetian king Teimuraz asked the Russian sovereign Mikhail Fedorovich to protect him from the persecution of the Persians. Moscow, respecting the request of the Georgian ruler, asked Shah Abas not to oppress Georgia. The shah satisfied the desire of the Russian kingdom.

    In 1636, Teimuraz asked Moscow for patronage and military assistance. The Russian embassy arrived at Tsar Teimuraz. And he signed a kissing record in 1639.

    In 1638, the Megrelian prince Leonty asked Moscow for patronage.

    In 1648, Tsar Alexander III of Imereti asked the Russian Tsar to accept him, along with the kingdom, into citizenship.

    In 1651, the Russian embassy (Tolochanov and Ievlev) was received in Imereti. On September 14, the Imeretian Tsar Alexander kissed the cross of allegiance to Moscow, on October 9 he signed a kissing record:

    Well, the cherry on the cake
    Without the Russians, there would never have been any Georgia.

    They need to be reminded of this every day, every hour.
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 18 January 2021 06: 22
      +4
      Why did the communists singled out these republics from which they never had statehood? Wild tribes now call us invaders.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 18 January 2021 06: 33
        -3
        Quote: Pessimist22
        Why did the communists singled out these republics from which they never had statehood?

        Yes, there were probably some thoughts
        It is now for historians to figure out why the primordially Russian cities and lands were given to the same outskirts
      2. apro
        apro 18 January 2021 07: 19
        -1
        Quote: Pessimist22
        Why Communists

        As I understand it, the communists are to blame for everything? They did the wrong thing. They did the wrong thing.
        The Russians had the opportunity to do it right for almost 200 years ...
        1. Quadro
          Quadro 18 January 2021 10: 24
          +1
          Quote: apro
          Quote: Pessimist22
          Why Communists

          As I understand it, the communists are to blame for everything? They did the wrong thing. They did the wrong thing.
          The Russians had the opportunity to do it right for almost 200 years ...

          Well, apparently EBN ukre glued Crimea and how Lenin came up with the Ussr. Elijah ebn and Putin showered Georgia with subsidies. Apparently Putin invested insane money in the Balts. My mother and grandmother had to go from the oblast to Moscow to buy certain products, and these overeat and rode in cars. But the "communists" are not to blame.
          1. apro
            apro 18 January 2021 12: 54
            +1
            Quote: Quadro
            But the "communists" are not to blame.

            So they have been gone for 30 years. During this time, all Russian problems can be solved.
            The communists were building the USSR for everyone, and not just for the Russians.
            1. Horon
              Horon 19 January 2021 12: 29
              0
              The communists were building the USSR for everyone, and not just for the Russians.

              At the expense of whom? Russians? Those who are now accused of occupation, and those whom they expelled as second-class people in the late 80s and early 90s?
              The Russians had the opportunity to do it right for almost 200 years ...

              The communists also had time to fight nationalism in the republics, but instead they only fueled it by constantly pushing the interests of the republics to the detriment of the same Russian regions!
              1. apro
                apro 19 January 2021 12: 55
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                Quote: Horon
                At the expense of whom? Russians?

                sufferers. at the expense of all. all participated. to the best of his ability, of course, in the construction of the national state of the USSR.
                this is how the communists fought, not only by repressive methods, but also by the integration of all peoples into a common cause.
                1. Horon
                  Horon 19 January 2021 14: 02
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                  Remind how Russians were expelled from the republics and who is accused of all mortal sins and cows, and then whose ancestors were collected from these territories ?!
                  sufferers

                  There are no continuous "beneficiaries"!
                  everyone took part.

                  Yes, once everything, but most of all, for some reason it was necessary for the Russians.
                  to the best of my ability, of course, in the construction of the national state of the USSR

                  Everyone's strength somehow quickly dried up, as soon as the communists let go of the reins, but nationalism emerged, which the communists could not eradicate, and even supported by creating national republics.
                  this is how the communists fought, not only by repressive methods, but also by the integration of all peoples into a common cause.

                  RI was also involved in this and the communists often forget that the territory of the USSR is the territory of RI, with some exceptions, and when you throw a stone at RI, do not forget about your "logs"!
                  1. apro
                    apro 19 January 2021 14: 17
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                    Quote: Horon
                    Remind how Russians were expelled from the republics and who is accused of all mortal sins and cows, and then whose ancestors were collected from these territories ?!

                    As I know, and why I also know.
                    Quote: Horon
                    for some reason it was necessary for the Russians.

                    Interestingly, the Russians did not need to. It was the Communists who controlled the process, where by force, where they were forced to use carrots.
                    Quote: Horon
                    as soon as the communists let go of the reins

                    They did not omit. And were reborn in Russian. Ukrainians and other things ... the conditions for Soviet civilization are too demanding ... bourgeois nationalism is easier ... no need to strain.
                    Quote: Horon
                    don't forget about your "logs"!

                    We do not forget. We understand well why it happened. And who is to blame. And what to do.
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 18 January 2021 16: 11
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      Quote: Lipchanin
      They need to be reminded of this every day, every hour.

      what's the point? What specific profit do you want to derive from your tediousness?
  5. Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 18 January 2021 06: 16
    -1
    "The battle did not last long: timid Georgians fled!" These lines from M. Lermontov's poem "The Demon", completed by him in 1839, have repeatedly surfaced in disputes about the merits and demerits of the Caucasian peoples, as proof of the cowardice and instability of Georgians in battle.

    Well, well, let's put it another way
    "They fled the brave Georgians "
    So even better
    1. Sugar Honeyovich
      Sugar Honeyovich 18 January 2021 14: 17
      +3
      Quote: Lipchanin
      These lines from M. Lermontov's poem "The Demon", completed by him in 1839, repeatedly surface in disputes about the merits and demerits of the Caucasian peoples,

      I have never seen Pushkin quoted: "You are not a Chechen - you are an old woman, You are a coward, you are a slave, you are an Armenian!"
  6. Humpty
    Humpty 18 January 2021 06: 18
    +5
    In what office was it interesting that the Georgian regional tribal leaders acquired the titles of kings? It is very likely that there are also their "princes" in droves.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 18 January 2021 06: 35
      +3
      Quote: Humpty
      In what office was it interesting that the Georgian regional tribal leaders acquired the titles of kings?

      The king of his aul and the nearest paths.
      What's incomprehensible request
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 18 January 2021 06: 42
        +2
        Quote: Lipchanin
        What's incomprehensible

        It is understandable. 4 auls of relatives are already the king. In each village there are 4 more princes in smoked sakla.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 18 January 2021 06: 47
          +1
          Quote: Humpty
          It is understandable. 4 auls of relatives are already the king.

          Yes, here I am about it. Simple smiley forgot to put laughing
          And take Soviet times, in crime. Everywhere you spit, the Georgian "thief in law", there were those who did not even sit. Bought all the cases.
          So there, "king of the hill"
          1. Humpty
            Humpty 18 January 2021 06: 55
            +2
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Bought all the cases.

            I perfectly understood you without a smiley. The categories of Georgian persons mentioned by us, except for kings, are common.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 18 January 2021 07: 02
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              Quote: Humpty
              , except for kings, are common.

              And it seems to me only in Georgia there is a hypertrafed desire for titles. Where you don’t spit, or you’ll get into the descendant of the king, or the prince.
              Reminiscent of the savage craving for tinsel laughing
              1. Humpty
                Humpty 18 January 2021 07: 15
                +1
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Reminiscent of the savage craving for tinsel

                Yes very. Not all rudimentary signs have been eradicated.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 18 January 2021 07: 18
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                  Quote: Humpty
                  Not all rudimentary signs have been eradicated.

                  This takes centuries.
                  And then only a hundred years have not passed
                  1. Humpty
                    Humpty 18 January 2021 07: 42
                    +5
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    And then only a hundred years have not passed

                    Still, more than a hundred years have passed. I don’t know exactly when, but in the 19th century, it was not the leaders of the ancient and highly cultured Georgian peoples, but the Russians who specifically changed the ichthyofauna of the region, brought a small mosquito fish, which comes from the Gulf of Mexico, to the reservoirs. Thus, they defeated malaria and more or less adapted the area to development.
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin 18 January 2021 11: 05
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                      Quote: Humpty
                      Still, more than a hundred years have passed.

                      Yes, I'm talking about consciousness.
                      It seems like the kings and princes were abolished in 17, so they became descendants
                      1. Humpty
                        Humpty 18 January 2021 11: 41
                        +1
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        Yes, I'm talking about consciousness.
                        It seems like the kings and princes were abolished in 17, so they became descendants

                        This not only the Georgians distinguished themselves. In Russia, then on stage, then in the Duma, then in sports - "graphs", "princes", "barons". So much for your consciousness.
                      2. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 18 January 2021 11: 51
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                        Quote: Humpty
                        This not only the Georgians distinguished themselves.

                        But Georgians in the majority request
  • RealPilot
    RealPilot 18 January 2021 06: 27
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    Quote: Comrade
    Georgian tsars begged to be accepted into Russian citizenship

    The main hope in the life of a parasite is to wait for the day when it will be possible to spit in the face of the benefactor.
    Which Georgia did.


    In the photo - the museum of the "occupation" of Georgia.

    I know one "occupier", just from "terrible times" ... His surname was not advertised. Dzhugashvili laughing
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 18 January 2021 08: 16
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      Quote: RealPilot
      I know one "occupier", just from "terrible times" ... His surname was not advertised. Dzhugashvili

      Yeah: then Georgia rolled like cheese in butter, generously endowed with heavenly lands at the expense of neighbors, huge free money, privileged supplies, roads, housing, unprecedented freedoms (collective farms were only on paper), purely their Georgian leaders, etc.
  • sleeve
    sleeve 18 January 2021 06: 31
    -1
    And in fact, the very movement to the Caucasus was largely caused by the need to unite with these "protected" type of vassals who allegedly took an oath of allegiance. Glossy on the card. Let's imagine that there are no such nation states as Georgia and Armenia. What is the point of the Russian Empire to leave the convenient border along the Terek? Not to "pacify" the border tribes, but to fully enter this territory? Thirst for new lands? Let's just look east. There is copper, there is furs and timber for construction. There is everything that is not in the Caucasus. That in the 17-18 century they did not understand that among the mountaineers there were so-so tax-paying tribes? Some expenses in blood and money. Approaching the borders of the Turks and Persians? We will not expose the rulers of Russia's past as donkeys. "Push back" the borders at the cost of such a rear? So it turns out that this movement to the south is caused by the need to fulfill the promise and turn the protected enclave into its part. The whole historical era of the Caucasian wars turns out to have such a justification?
    1. Seal
      Seal 19 January 2021 12: 53
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      Yes. Georgians and Armenians often write something like this
      "Thanks to the Armenians and Georgians, the Russian Empire expanded its southern borders, and from 1828 they began to settle in the Transcaucasus, where three republics were formed."
      I wonder why many Armenians and Georgians believe that the Russian Empire wanted to expand until it took over almost the entire world? No no and one more time no. We don't need to attribute that we wanted to capture everything and everyone. In fact, thanks to the Armenians and Georgians, we received, in general, territories that we did not really need and an almost century-long war.
      Let's see how the Great Caucasian War began in general. What, really, we, with tens of millions of square kilometers of territory, could not do without the Caucasus and Transcaucasia? They could, of course.
      Historically, our life was much quieter when we, Russia, were separated from Persia and Turkey by a whole conglomerate of North Caucasian tribes. The tribes, of course, annoyed us a little, but they annoyed Persia and Turkey exactly the same amount. Well, of course, the tribes in the North Caucasus fought so actively among themselves that it was not difficult for us to buy ourselves a dozen or two tribal leaders in order to radically cut off any possibility of Persia or Turkey to attack us suddenly. Well, it should be borne in mind that both of these countries have never suddenly attacked us in history. At first, honestly, according to all the rules, they declared war and only after about half a year, or even later, did they start fighting.
      But once we were lured to the Transcaucasus. Lured by the Armenians and Georgians. Armenians under the pretext that they, as Christians, are offended by Muslim Persians, and Georgians - that they, as Christians, are offended by Muslim Turks (Western Georgia) and Muslim Persians (Eastern Georgia).
      We occupied the territories of modern Armenia and Georgia with our troops. And what did they get in return?
      - eternal problems at the local level. Up to the assassination of our general by the Georgian queen Mariam, our general Lazarev;
      - an eternal pretext for war with us for Persia and Turkey, which, of course, were unhappy that we had taken away part of their territory and dreamed of returning these lands;
      - the entire conglomerate of North Caucasian tribes united against us, began to focus exclusively on Persia and Turkey, and we got a bloody, almost XNUMX-year war in the Caucasus.
      Well, and most importantly, both Georgians and Armenians took an active part in both the 1905 and 1917 revolutions. Look how many figures with Georgian and Armenian surnames are among the "revolutionaries". And these republics themselves, as soon as possible, declared their independence in 1918.
      It would have been enough for us that even under Peter the Great we took Baku, where the Baku oil fields later appeared. And the actual Black Sea coast from the Kerch Strait to Gagra inclusive.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 18 January 2021 07: 42
    +3
    asked to Russian citizenship.

    That's exactly what is in RUSSIAN.

    Therefore, there was no reason to arrange all sorts of sovereign Georgian squabbles, where the Georgians were given heaven on earth at the expense of Russia.

    They raised nationalists, thieves in law, and economic boundless crime.

    There was Tiflis province, and it should have remained
  • prior
    prior 18 January 2021 11: 34
    -1
    If the Georgians so desperately want to be raped by their neighbors from the south,
    Georgians cannot be denied .....
  • vladcub
    vladcub 18 January 2021 11: 40
    +2
    Comrades, actually today is the anniversary of the breakthrough of the blockade in Leningrad. I would gladly read the chronicle of those years. And also Drabkina.: "I fought"
  • Diviz
    Diviz 18 January 2021 12: 53
    -1
    Nothing of the kind is expected in Georgia for the new Romanovs and Peter the Great, and not only for the campaign in Georgia. Let them wait. Buying cars. It is not clear with whom Saakashvili was kissing. State of Georgia 1. Appendages without history.
  • staer-62
    staer-62 18 January 2021 15: 59
    +1
    Georgians, why did you kill 78 Russian peacekeepers at their base? Did they kill you?
  • dust31
    dust31 18 January 2021 23: 02
    +2
    that's how they did not go to the communists and not democrats into citizenship. What to demand from them now? There was another civilization, both with us and with them.
  • Seal
    Seal 19 January 2021 12: 45
    0
    The Turkmens were engaged in cattle breeding and seized the flat lands. Blooming fields, orchards, vineyards were turned into pastures.
    In fact, viticulture is in the blood of the Turkmens no less than that of the Georgians. And then, as if not more.
    https://turkmenportal.com/blog/24339/sem-tysyach-let-vinogradarstva
    "Seven thousand years of viticulture" is the title of an article published in the next issue of the Forum Plus magazine, which is published with the support of the Interstate Fund for Humanitarian Cooperation of the CIS Member States (IFES). Its author is Ruslan Muradov, executive secretary of the magazine Construction and Architecture of Turkmenistan.

    As noted in the publication, the history of viticulture in Turkmenistan goes back millennia. And today in our country there are more than one hundred and forty grape varieties, of which almost half are of local origin. The famous botanist and breeder, academician Nikolai Vavilov was the first to point out the importance of the Western Kopetdag as one of the world's main centers of origin of the main cultivated plants, including grapes. And this has been repeatedly confirmed by their research archaeologists.
  • Petro_tut
    Petro_tut 21 January 2021 22: 21
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    Nowadays Georgia is a combination of a tavern with a brothel, even if it remains