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Gazprom starts completing construction of the Danish section of Nord Stream 2

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Gazprom starts completing construction of the Danish section of Nord Stream 2

Russian Gazprom is beginning to complete the construction of the remaining section of Nord Stream-2, and ships participating in the construction are being pulled into the pipeline-laying area.


According to the ship tracking portal Marine Traffic, the pipe-laying barge Fortuna left the German port of Wismar and headed for Danish waters. As previously reported, Fortuna completed the German section of the gas pipeline in December, after which it arrived in Wismar at the end of December, where it was awaiting the start of the completion phase. According to the available information, it will be Fortuna that will be the main pipelayer.

In addition, the supply vessel "Baltic Researcher" has returned to the completion area and will be involved in laying the gas pipeline. At the same time, the supply vessels Murman, Umka and Ivan Sidorenko, as well as the icebreaker Vladislav Strizhov, are still in the port of Mukran. These supply vessels are planned to be used to supply pipes.

Meanwhile, Denmark said that the operator of Nord Stream 2, Nord Stream 2 AG, has transferred the schedule of plans for the construction of the gas pipeline; work will begin on January 15, 2021. The Danish Energy Agency has no construction claims, all conditions have been met.

The Danish Energy Agency last week received a timetable for the further construction of Nord Stream 2 from Nord Stream 2 AG (...) I can confirm that all relevant conditions have been met

- said spokesman for the Danish Energy Agency Tore Falbe-Hansen.

Earlier, Gazprom stressed that Russia will independently complete the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline, despite the US-imposed sanctions. Work on the Danish section was scheduled to begin on 15 January 2021.
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  1. iouris
    iouris 14 January 2021 14: 25
    +7
    The pipeline troops were brought in.
    1. Yang yangov
      Yang yangov 14 January 2021 14: 31
      +10
      ... All US attempts to stop Nord Stream 2 have failed. The foreign onshore section of the gas pipeline was completed. Now pipes are being laid in the waters of Germany, then in Denmark. Analysts point out that the project has reached the home stretch and will be completed anyway.

      The Fortuna pipelayer will be assisted by the Murman and Baltic Researcher of the Russian Marine Rescue Service, as well as other support vessels. A temporary exclusion zone 200 meters wide will be created in the sea on both sides of the pipe-laying line. You cannot swim, dive, anchor, or fish there.
      1. NEOZ
        NEOZ 14 January 2021 14: 38
        +3
        Quote: Yang Yangov
        All US attempts to stop Nord Stream 2 have failed.

        are mistaken!
        construction cost has increased! timeline shifted to the right! for another 5 years we have been feeding independents!
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 14 January 2021 14: 50
          +4
          We do not feed. With the volume that they pump there is almost no profit. The rise in price is a fact. But there is not only our investments and for all participants this is normal. They will beat back then and very quickly. And taking into account the fact that now on the gas market this is happening, they will not even notice.
          1. Roman070280
            Roman070280 14 January 2021 15: 05
            -12%
            With that volume that they pump profits there is almost no.


            Well, yes, of course .. from the couch it is more visible ..

            Last year, less than 56 billion cubic meters of gas was transported through Ukraine, but Gazprom paid for the entire contracted volume.
            In 2020, Naftogaz provided Gazprom with services for organizing gas transportation through Ukraine for $ 2,11 billion, the press service of the NJSC reported on Thursday, January 14.

            "For 2020, Gazprom fully paid for the annual capacity of the Ukrainian gas transmission system (GTS) for gas transportation. According to the agreement dated December 31, 2019 between Naftogaz and Gazprom, the cost of booking 65 billion cubic meters of annual capacity is $ 2,1 billion.
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 14 January 2021 15: 33
              +3
              Good luck, health, well-coordinated work and good weather to the participants! GOOD FANS - positive emotions and good news! To ill-wishers and enemies - ... (well, I can't, the rules of VO are harsh!)! We are waiting, sir.
            2. Brturin
              Brturin 14 January 2021 16: 04
              +3
              Quote: Roman070280
              Gazprom paid for the entire contracted volume.
              In 2020, Naftogaz provided Gazprom with services for organizing gas transportation through Ukraine for $ 2,11 billion,

              With 65 - 2,11, then it turns out that this year there will be about 1,3 billion. As the operator of the GTS stated, 80% of its profit comes from international activities ... We will see the financial indicators at the end of the year ...
              The Ukrainian Gas Transportation System (GTS) will have to abandon 60-70% of its capacity. The reason is the decline in gas transit from Russia to Europe. This was announced by the head of the Ukrainian GTS Operator S. Makogon. https://neftegaz.ru/news/transport-and-storage/635923-ukrainskaya-gts-mozhet-otkazatsya-ot-60-70-svoikh-moshchnostey-v-svyazi-so-snizheniem-tranzita-gaza/
            3. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 14 January 2021 17: 46
              -4
              You turn on your head. In 15, for example, there were more than 80 in 14, more than 80. And here the joy is 56. In this case, the following will be generally 40. The fact that Gazprom pays is a fact. But is the word profitability familiar to you?
              1. Pete mitchell
                Pete mitchell 14 January 2021 22: 22
                +3
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Gazprom pays for the fact. But the word profitability ...
                There was information that the profit of a pipe starts after 35: subject to maintenance, repairs and other things ... If everything is done correctly, then they have nothing left for profit; if the grandmas are cut, then the technical condition leaves much to be desired ...
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              3. Rubi0
                Rubi0 15 January 2021 01: 48
                +2
                So you turn on your head, for 600 million euros from the EU, Ukraine removes a marratorium on the forest, for 1 billion from the IMF it removes a marratorium on land and also prohibits the purchase of them by Russians, this is how a fraternal policy should be pursued, and so 2 billion was simply given out of thin air direct merit of the states. By the way, I'm surprised why the same ammonia is still pumped to Odessa and not to Taman, and who has been hindering the project to build a gas pipeline to Taman since 2000
                1. Omskgasmyas
                  Omskgasmyas 15 January 2021 07: 11
                  -1
                  Quote: Rubi0
                  and so 2 billion just out of thin air gave

                  They did not give it away, but paid for the work done - gas transit to Europe. Gazprom received payment from the EU for these 56 billion cubic meters of gas, from this money Gazprom paid Naftogaz for transit. All of Gazprom's other pipelines to Europe have been operating at near full capacity throughout the year. So these 3 billion m56 of gas could only be pumped through Ukraine. Business, nothing personal. What would you do if you were Gazprom?
                  1. Rubi0
                    Rubi0 15 January 2021 10: 43
                    +2
                    You do not understand what the lost profit is, the same 56 billion could have been pumped along the northern stream if it had not been for the overflow of the state employees, and the profit for transit would have gone to Gazprom and the Europeans, Ukraine would have been in flight, as now all transit from the Baltics should be done and with Ukraine. And you are still plus fool
                    1. carstorm 11
                      carstorm 11 15 January 2021 12: 39
                      0
                      Nonsense. The European Energy Charter will not allow this. It does not give Gazprom the opportunity to increase capacity at other lines.
              4. Roman070280
                Roman070280 15 January 2021 11: 32
                0
                You turn on your head.

                So start turning it on ..

                It was about
                With the volume that they swing

                And then the joy 56


                And for the headless, I repeat for the second time - they paid for nothing, pumped up !!

                Let's learn to read - Gazprom paid for the entire contracted volume .. So "56" does not play any role here at all ..
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 15 January 2021 12: 42
                  -2
                  And what confuses you about this? You don't want to realize that prior to this contract, they paid for much larger volumes. The contract there is a new 60 for the first year and the rest for 40 years. Which means almost half the money for transit. The profitability of the pipe is practically zero. 404 just made less money on it than even in 14-15 years. And Gazprom that through 404 that through another route would still pay for transit.
            4. Turist1996
              Turist1996 14 January 2021 20: 36
              +1
              And what ?! What should the above comments speak about ?!
            5. Petr Vladimirovich
              Petr Vladimirovich 15 January 2021 14: 01
              +1
              If it's not a secret, from which vessel are you posting?
          2. sustav75
            sustav75 14 January 2021 17: 06
            +1
            Our retirees will notice!
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 14 January 2021 16: 19
          -4
          Quote: NEOZ
          construction cost has increased! timeline shifted to the right! for another 5 years we have been feeding independents!

          Exactly.
          Russian Gazprom is beginning to complete the construction of the remaining section of Nord Stream-2, and ships participating in the construction are being pulled into the pipeline-laying area.

          This is not the first time that they have already contracted ... and then they dissolve.
        3. g1v2
          g1v2 14 January 2021 18: 25
          +4
          We have a contract until the expiration of Zelensky's term - for another 4 years. For 2020, pumping was initially higher under the contract. Further at a minimum, but it will still be. The Ukrainian pipe is useful to us and will not be abandoned. It's just that with the volumes that have been contracted, the Ukrainians will no longer be able to blackmail us, as the pipe becomes secondary from the main one. But without this pipe, the Poles will be able to blackmail us, and so we will be able to transfer any volumes beyond the contract through the banderlog.
          The timeline was originally clearly scheduled after the state elections. Therefore, the piece was left in shallow water at the beginning of 2020. Now they will finish building and there will be a duty peremoga. Like the states could not interfere, we won and all that. Most likely, the GDP will arrive at the opening, and so on.
          1. Nazar
            Nazar 16 January 2021 02: 35
            0
            g1v2 - Colleague, "pumping" at a minimum "does not mean payment for transit" at a minimum "- Gazprom will pay for the entire contracted annual volume, that is, you have to pay for the volume that has not been pumped. does not matter, here is such a "contract"! Yes, plus to this, if they exceed the volume of pumping in a year, then they will pay for the excess at an increased tariff.
            1. g1v2
              g1v2 19 January 2021 08: 07
              +3
              From 2021, the annual volume is about 40 billion cubic meters. This is in fact the cost of maintaining the system. And naturally, you will have to pay for pumping this volume at any rate. That is, there is no sense in not pumping this volume. But the point is that in excess of this volume, you can pump volumes under one-time contracts. That is, Poles or Turks are bending their fingers and trying to stir up something? Well, the dropping volumes can be driven through the ukrogs operator by contracting the pumping of this quantity separately. And you can pump it until the Poles or Turks become more accommodating. request Even 10 years ago, about 200 billion cubic meters were pumped through ukrts. Ukroreykh from this had more than $ 3 billion. Since this year, only 40 billion cubic meters have been contracted. As they say - feel the difference.
              As a whole, Gazprom needs tch ukrogs. Although some branches have already ceased to be necessary and have already refused to pump through them.
              1. Nazar
                Nazar 19 January 2021 13: 52
                0
                g1v2 - The Ukrainian gas transportation system is really useful for Gazprom, in certain volumes, but the trouble is that the technical condition of this system is deteriorating sharply, preventive maintenance, scheduled repairs were practically not carried out after leaving the USSR and now Ukrainians, with the support of the Europeans, will try to impose repair costs on Gazprom modernization of this rusty pipe, will Gazprom be able to dodge such an "honorable" duty - the question is?
                1. g1v2
                  g1v2 19 January 2021 21: 37
                  +2
                  In theory, after the unbundling of Naftogaz, Ukrogs was separated and its operator is in fact under the control of the Europeans. And they are interested in gas supplies, because they need to compete with Southeast Asia. Cheap energy is an important link. It will not work to attach ukrogs repairs to Gazprom, because it has nothing to do with it anymore. He contracts the volume of pumping - no more. But of course the state of ukrogs is not good. Again, the gas supply to most of the territory of the ukroreikh comes from a transit pipe. True, now Naftogaz also needs to buy this gas from the Ukrogs operator, as he no longer owns the pipe.
        4. lopvlad
          lopvlad 16 January 2021 02: 42
          0
          Quote: NEOZ
          for another 5 years we have been feeding independents


          we do not feed but pump gas. And not 5 years, but already 4 years, and the contract for 5 years was signed in 2019, and even if disruptions in the construction of Nord Stream 2 could be avoided, then it would have been launched before January 1, 2020 by Gazprom did not work (it takes several months for testing and adjustment).
          Since the beginning of 2021, Ukraine has lost a little more than 40% of guaranteed gas transit per year, if in 2020 Gazprom was obliged to pump at least 65 billion cubic meters of gas through the Ukrainian GTS. m then from 2021 this obligation fell to 40 billion cubic meters. m.
      2. Crowe
        Crowe 14 January 2021 14: 46
        +5
        It's all great that analysts point out that it is impossible to anchor and fish. And what about certification? After all, other analysts, for example Igor Yushkov, Leading Analyst of the National Energy Security Fund, an expert at the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation (uh, I barely uttered how they like long titles for their positions) commented on the refusal of the Norwegian company Det Norske Veritas (DNV GL) to certify the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline after its completion due to US sanctions on the project:
        "Even if the European Union itself gives guarantees that tools will be found to bypass the sanctions, European commercial companies will still not violate the bans."
        1. bad
          bad 14 January 2021 14: 56
          +22
          Quote: Crowe
          anyway, European commercial companies will not violate the bans

          Alternatively, you can mix pipeline gas with American LNG and say with honest eyes: "We only have American!"
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 14 January 2021 15: 41
          +7
          Quote: Crowe
          It's all great that analysts point out that it is impossible to anchor and fish. And what about certification? After all, other analysts, for example Igor Yushkov, Leading Analyst of the National Energy Security Fund, an expert at the Financial University under the Government of the Russian Federation (uh, I barely uttered how they like long titles for their positions) commented on the refusal of the Norwegian company Det Norske Veritas (DNV GL) to certify the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline after its completion due to US sanctions on the project:
          "Even if the European Union itself gives guarantees that tools will be found to bypass the sanctions, European commercial companies will still not violate the bans."

          Now, in order to comply with everything, there is no question. It's about how to cheat each other. If necessary, they will stupidly create a company with an authorized capital of one thousand conventional units, for a one-time certification, after which it will be "bankrupt", but the certificate will remain. Everyone will understand that this is a screen, but they will also understand that it is legally impossible to undermine. As they say, for any clever nut, there is a threaded bolt. yes
        3. lopvlad
          lopvlad 16 January 2021 02: 59
          -1
          Quote: Crowe
          what about the certification?


          can you also ask about the percentage of guaranteed minimum filling of the gas pipeline after construction? Problems are solved in order of priority, first with construction and after construction with certification and gas filling.
      3. major147
        major147 14 January 2021 14: 57
        +6
        Quote: Yang Yangov
        Analysts point out that the project has reached the home stretch and will be completed anyway.

        The latest information from open sources close to Gazprom:
        “The final stage of construction of SP-2 will begin no earlier than January 18 (and not January 13 as planned) due to unfavorable weather conditions. Both pipelayers will participate in it. Chersky on a short section, Fortuna on a long section.
        On A. Chersky "for the next three days at the Kaliningrad shipyard" Pregol "they will install an automatic technical system for anti-icing of a part of the assembly and welding complex on the open sections of the upper deck.
        All tasks related to certification and insurance at the Project have been resolved.
        The answer to the question whether Western Europe needs Nord Stream 2 is very clearly available at present on the display boards of the largest gas exchanges in Europe.
        The only company steadily increasing sales in Europe is Gazprom. All other suppliers, on the contrary, are reducing sales volumes, including the second largest supplier - Norwegian Equinor. Moreover, the supply of both LNG and pipelines decreases
        The USA does not export gas at all now. Not enough ourselves. Qatar is sending everything to freezing East Asia.
        And winter has not yet reached its half.
        Let me remind you that defeatists and spiteful critics in June 2020 gloated and panicked about the spot price in Europe at $ 80 per thousand cubic meters and the impending “inevitable financial collapse of Gazprom and all of Russia with him for the company. Now the same "analysts" are arguing whether the spot price will stop at $ 350 by the beginning of February or surpass this value. "
      4. Roman070280
        Roman070280 14 January 2021 15: 03
        -12%
        All US attempts to stop Nord Stream 2 have failed.

        The result is obvious .. The pipe has been lying at the bottom for the second year ..
        Well, the fact that the next ships once again (there will not be enough fingers to count) have sailed somewhere .. this is not a result ..
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 14 January 2021 15: 14
          +5
          Quote: Roman070280
          The pipe has been lying at the bottom for the second year.

          Should I float on the surface?
          1. Roman070280
            Roman070280 14 January 2021 15: 36
            -6
            Must pump gas ..
        2. Vadim Zhivov
          Vadim Zhivov 14 January 2021 15: 22
          -4
          And you, dear, didn’t count your toes, but already burst into tears. And you know what swims ... Cyplenkov you know when and why they count ... Continue in the same spirit ... wassat laughing
          1. Roman070280
            Roman070280 14 January 2021 15: 41
            -5
            and already burst into tears
            Personally, I think that the population of the country will not benefit from this stream .. So you obviously confused me with someone ..))

            Cyplenkov you know when and why they count ...

            Here I support !!
            And then some were screaming - at the end of 19 we will build .. kakly will freeze without a contract ..
            Then they shouted - at the end of 20, we will definitely complete it ..
            Now they are yelling again ... the courts have come ...
            Not tired of counting chicks ahead of time every time ??

            But by the way ..
            Keep up the good work .... wassat
            1. Vadim Zhivov
              Vadim Zhivov 14 January 2021 15: 44
              0
              I also do not have Gazprom shares ... I feel sorry for the state ..
              1. Roman070280
                Roman070280 14 January 2021 15: 52
                -13%
                I'm sorry for the state ..

                If Putin and his accomplices once again screwed up, and remained in flight with some kind of pipe, then what does the state have to do with it.

                And why exactly should the state excite the minds ?? There is a home .. home street .. home village .. hometown, in the end ..
                If this is not enough, and you want to continue the analogy about your home country, then you should be consistent and go to your home planet ..))
                And rejoice at the success of humanity when Elon Musk launches some kind of ship into space ..
                And everything else is just politics .. And you really shouldn't worry about them, and you definitely shouldn't be upset ..
                If they were people there, it’s another matter .. Many sick children are thrown off for treatment .. And for these shitheads no one will shed tears, if suddenly a fire breaks out in the Kremlin tomorrow ..
                1. Vadim Zhivov
                  Vadim Zhivov 14 January 2021 16: 04
                  +5
                  Everything is clear with you Putin is to blame for everything ... Keep up the good work and do not forget to pray for Navalny and Yeltsin to light a candle ... And I was born in the USSR and my all here and for the state I am offended .. hi
                  1. sustav75
                    sustav75 14 January 2021 17: 13
                    -4
                    For those who were born and lived in the USSR, Putin and his friends, the capitalists from the "lake" cooperative should at least be despised ...
                    1. Petr Vladimirovich
                      Petr Vladimirovich 15 January 2021 14: 15
                      -1
                      Yeltsin muddied, Putin rakes, the forum discusses ... Everything is in business ...
                  2. Roman070280
                    Roman070280 15 January 2021 11: 37
                    -1
                    Everything is clear with you Putin is to blame for everything ..


                    No .. Abama, Biden, and NATO are to blame ..))
                    Well, do not forget to pray for Novalny .. if he doesn’t get out of your head ..))
                    And Putin himself puts candles and monuments to Yeltsin.
                2. Omskgasmyas
                  Omskgasmyas 15 January 2021 07: 35
                  +2
                  Quote: Roman070280
                  And rejoice at the success of humanity when Elon Musk launches some kind of ship into space ..

                  Is it also possible to rejoice at the successes of Roscosmos? Or do we rejoice only at accidents at damned Rashka? Which, by the way, did not exist in 2020. The sadness of Svidomo and light-faced non-brothers.
                  1. Roman070280
                    Roman070280 15 January 2021 11: 38
                    -1
                    Is it also possible to rejoice at the successes of Roscosmos?

                    You can .. As soon as they are !!

                    Svidomo may have sadness .. you know better there ..))
            2. lis-ik
              lis-ik 14 January 2021 17: 32
              -8
              Quote: Roman070280
              Personally, I think that the population of the country will not benefit from this stream .. So you obviously confused me with someone ..))

              To be honest, I also don't see any benefit, both for the population of the Russian Federation and for the state itself. What are the new production facilities built? Moved to the real economy? Became independent from the West? No, as we have been a raw material appendage for the last 30 years, we are deepening this direction.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 14 January 2021 18: 38
                +6
                Raw materials will always be in demand, as well as energy resources - but there are no other goods today, they were bought today, and tomorrow nobody needs them, I mean goods with high added value of competitors, there are a lot of maximum risks and for the state, the launch of JV 2 is tax deductions to the budget in the future Russia and hydrogen energy will develop as well as the production of hydrogen, which in the procession will be added to the pipeline gas in increasing percentages, increasing the environmental friendliness of the latter and increasing the calorific value and efficiency of equipment.
      5. ioan-e
        ioan-e 14 January 2021 15: 42
        -4
        Quote: Yang Yangov
        A temporary exclusion zone 200 meters wide will be created in the sea on both sides of the pipe-laying line. You cannot swim, dive, anchor, or fish there.

        Well, at least you can throw the bulls with pleasure?
        1. Petr Vladimirovich
          Petr Vladimirovich 15 January 2021 14: 21
          0
          In Russian cities it has long been not accepted ...
          1. ioan-e
            ioan-e 16 January 2021 11: 28
            0
            Quote: Petr Vladimirovich
            In Russian cities it has long been not accepted ...

            Smoking - yes, but the presence of trash bins in public places is a big problem! Why in St. Petersburg they are in bulk, and in my Mytishchi half a kilometer have to go with a piece of paper in hand to find an urn! The passage under the Kazansky railway station was opened - well done, only there are not only no trash cans, they cannot remove garbage from repairs from last year, rivets, sawdust and other rubbish are lying underfoot.
            Py.Sy. the previous post was sarcasm if that.
      6. businessv
        businessv 15 January 2021 13: 30
        0
        Quote: Yang Yangov
        The Fortuna pipelayer will be assisted by the Murman and Baltic Researcher of the Russian Marine Rescue Service, as well as other support vessels.
        This is definitely great! And where did the "Academician Chersky", which dodged through the seas and oceans, in a hurry to deal with the completion of SP-2 in October - December 2019, go?
  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 14 January 2021 14: 26
    +1
    Educate anyone in the know. And when the Nord Stream is completed, will Nezalezhnaya be completely removed from our gas system or not?
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 14 January 2021 14: 29
      -4
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Educate anyone in the know. And when the Nord Stream is completed, will Nezalezhnaya be completely removed from our gas system or not?

      No. The Germans are against. Although the chancellor there is to be replaced this year. But I think the approaches will remain the same.
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 14 January 2021 14: 35
        0
        But I think the approaches will remain the same.

        Everything flows, everything changes .......
      2. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 14 January 2021 14: 52
        -4
        Yes, everyone does not care. This contract that ours signed is ridiculous in volume. They pumped twice as much before him. If they don’t put a fee for transit into the system but eat it, they will simply destroy it.
    2. NEOZ
      NEOZ 14 January 2021 14: 41
      +1
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Square will be completely deleted from our gas system or not?

      Of course not! they are brothers !!!!
    3. private person
      private person 14 January 2021 14: 44
      -1
      And when the Nord Stream is completed

      To finish it, maybe someday they will finish it, but to put it into operation? After all, her pipe still needs to be filled and get a certificate. And with tete and other problems.
      1. sustav75
        sustav75 14 January 2021 17: 18
        -2
        the Americans said that sanctions would strangle any European company that intends to build infrastructure for the flow on land! And the Americans know how to do it ...
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 January 2021 18: 40
          +7
          It seems to have already been completed.
    4. ccsr
      ccsr 14 January 2021 14: 57
      +3
      Quote: Magic Archer
      And when the Nord Stream is completed, will Nezalezhnaya be completely removed from our gas system or not?

      Most likely not, because, firstly, we are obliged to drive the contracted volumes through it for four more years, and secondly, with so many gas pipelines laid, we can reduce the cost of gas if we pay less for its storage in gas storage facilities. Now the transition to spot gas trading brings us certain benefits, because at times of high prices we can pump more gas than sell it at a cheap price for storage to Western owners of gas storage facilities. On the whole, the "excess capacity" of the GTS while competing with American liquefied gas is good for us - I think so.
    5. venik
      venik 14 January 2021 14: 57
      +4
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Educate anyone in the know. And when the Nord Stream is completed, will Nezalezhnaya be completely removed from our gas system or not?

      =========
      There, a contract with Naftogaz seems to have been signed for another 3 years. And then there will be a new one, where the pumping volumes will probably become far less... Most likely, gas will be supplied through Ukraine mainly to Slovakia, Hungary, Poland, and possibly partially to the Czech Republic, Austria and Romania. And to Germany, Denmark, France, Holland, Belgium and partially - to Poland, Austria and the Czech Republic - through SP-1 and SP-2. And this is about 70-80% of all supplies.
      But this is - so - assumptions based on rumors, information in the media and basic analytics.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 14 January 2021 15: 08
        +2
        Quote: venik
        There, a contract with Naftogaz seems to have been signed for another 3 years. And then there will be a new one, where the pumping volumes will probably become much less. Most likely, gas will be supplied through Ukraine mainly to Slovakia, Hungary, Poland ...

        Since October, the Hungarians have access to the Balkansky Stream + they receive gas from the LNG terminal of Croatia, in general, the Poles threatened not to buy Russian gas after 2022 ... And then transit through Poland has been booked until this fall, and then ... the Germans will intercede?
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 14 January 2021 18: 42
        +2
        To do this, the Balkan stream will need gas will be connected to it with the UGTS, which will soon begin to fall apart, whoever will have to deal with it.
    6. APASUS
      APASUS 14 January 2021 14: 58
      0
      Quote: Magic Archer
      And when the Nord Stream is completed, will Nezalezhnaya be completely removed from our gas system or not?

      Most likely not, this is a political moment, not an economic one. But it is possible to reduce the volume of pumping in such a way that Ukraine will still pay extra for the EU gas supplies.
      How will our people do it again is not clear?
    7. Avior
      Avior 14 January 2021 15: 12
      0
      No, it will remain, the Germans insist.
      But still four more years to pay for any, even if not download.
    8. Piramidon
      Piramidon 14 January 2021 15: 18
      0
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Educate anyone in the know. And when the Nord Stream is completed, will Nezalezhnaya be completely removed from our gas system or not?

      Russia will not refuse to transit gas through Ukraine, despite the construction of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, the construction of which is close to completion. President Vladimir Putin said this at a meeting with representatives of German business in Sochi.

      Putin noted that Nord Stream 2 is a "purely commercial project" and the state practically does not participate in it. “I have already spoken about this many times, I want to say about it again: this does not mean at all that Russia intends to stop transit through the territory of Ukraine,” the president said (quoted by TASS).
      1. Alexga
        Alexga 14 January 2021 18: 03
        -4
        Putin noted that Nord Stream 2 is a "purely commercial project" and the state practically does not participate in it.

        I would like to believe it, but remembering the commercial project called Sayano-Shushenskaya HPP, when the accident occurred, the main expenses were borne by the state, not the owner. No matter how something like that happens here.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 January 2021 18: 46
          +2
          RusHydro - "The largest shareholders: the Russian Federation represented by the Federal Agency for State Property Management (61,2%), VTB Bank (13,1%), Avitrans LLC (5,9%), so the owner of the Sayano-Shushenskaya HPP is State.
          1. Alexga
            Alexga 14 January 2021 19: 12
            -2
            I will not say categorically, but at the time of the accident, the owner was En + Group, and this is Deripaska, as far as I remember.
    9. Omskgasmyas
      Omskgasmyas 15 January 2021 07: 50
      +2
      Gas will go through Banderlandia to Moldova (and Transnistria) and part of Romania. There is no other way yet. That is, from the entire Ukrainian GTS complex, in the interests of Gazprom, one pipe will operate in the southwest direction with pumping of 8-12 billion m3. Or even less. Well, one more pipe to Slovakia / Hungary can be reserved for an emergency. In principle, what is happening now is that 40 billion m3 of gas will be pumped through Ukraine this year. And this is not concessions to the banderlog, but a sober calculation.
    10. businessv
      businessv 15 January 2021 13: 39
      0
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Square will be completely deleted from our gas system or not?
      The pumping contract was extended for 5 years, due to the lack of options in 19-20. Not aware of the details of contract volumes.
  3. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 14 January 2021 14: 32
    +4
    Goodbye enough to the Ukrainian Naftogaz! Well, do not despair, you will not be able to sell gas to suckers at exorbitant prices on the reverse, you will buy our liquefied Russian gas from Yamal (under the guise of a "democratic" American one), get more food on it.
    1. major147
      major147 14 January 2021 15: 06
      +1
      Quote: Fyodor Sokolov
      you will buy our liquefied Russian gas from Yamal (under the guise of "democratic" American)

      So Lithuania does not bother with these conventions, such as American gas. Instead of cheap pipeline gas, he buys expensive liquefied gas, ..... but also Russian recourse

      VILNIUS, 18 Nov - Sputnik. Another tanker with Russian liquefied natural gas (LNG) has arrived in Lithuania.
      LNG tanker Coral Favia
      © PHOTO: MARINETRAFFIC
      Third LNG cargo from Russia arrives in Lithuania in November
      The gas carrier Coral Fungia left the port of Vysotsk last week and entered the port of Klaipeda early on Wednesday morning, according to the Marinetraffic portal. The vessel is located near the local LNG terminal for fuel offloading.
      The tanker delivered 9,5 thousand cubic meters of LNG to Lithuania. This is known from the schedule of the operator company Klaipedos nafta.
  4. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 14 January 2021 14: 39
    +5
    winter in Europe is harsh ... snow fell in Madrid!))) ... the price has risen ... so the need for gas in Europe has become even more obvious ... the rest is political games of devotion to certain "common ideals" ...
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 14 January 2021 15: 14
      -6
      you have to do your own business.
      build autobahns BY 2030.
      and it turns out that they are not suitable for severe winters .. in 10-20 years what winters will be?
      IT IS NECESSARY TO BUILD A W / D. other costs. technologies, other production base. feeding troughs others approximate.dr proportions of the economy now and for 30-50 years ahead.
    2. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 14 January 2021 15: 32
      -11%
      And local whiners do not pay attention to such trifles ... The main thing is to shout and louder that Gazprom vitamin "G" hi
  5. Tagan
    Tagan 14 January 2021 14: 40
    +1
    Quote: Magic Archer
    Educate anyone in the know. And when the Nord Stream is completed, will Nezalezhnaya be completely removed from our gas system or not?

    According to Germany's statement, they "hope" that the ukrotruba will function. But this was expressed quite bashfully. Diplomacy, her mother. Judge for yourself, if a decent share of pumped volumes through Ukraine is reduced, its profitability will fall to the point of indecency. And the information that supplies to the Ukrainian pipeline will be reduced seems to be included in the contract. I won't say exactly, but in my opinion, a phased reduction in several years (no matter how five).
    1. Roman070280
      Roman070280 14 January 2021 15: 11
      -6
      if a decent share of pumped volumes through Ukraine is reduced, its profitability will fall to indecency


      Last year, less than 56 billion cubic meters of gas was transported through Ukraine, but Gazprom paid for the entire contracted volume.
      In 2020, Naftogaz provided Gazprom with services for organizing gas transportation through Ukraine for $ 2,11 billion, the press service of the NJSC reported on Thursday, January 14.
    2. Avior
      Avior 14 January 2021 15: 14
      -3
      ... if a decent share of pumped volumes through Ukraine is reduced

      Then the pumping price will rise, they will not pump at a loss, and the Germans understand this perfectly.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 14 January 2021 16: 19
        +3
        Quote: Avior
        Then the pumping price will rise, they will not download at a loss

        While the tariffs are defined in the contract, and then ... the tariff must be justified ... a vicious circle - a high tariff, it is not profitable to pump, and as proof that the SP-2 is purely commercial ...
        1. Avior
          Avior 14 January 2021 16: 23
          -2
          In the contract that is, the tariff is based on the fact that you need to pay for a certain amount of pumping, even if you have not pumped.
          And if we are talking about a new one, in 4 years, then the price will still be set with some kind of profit
          1. Brturin
            Brturin 14 January 2021 16: 37
            +3
            Quote: Avior
            the price will still be set with some kind of profit

            With a profit, this is clear, the question is the total value ... there are the values ​​of the Polish transit, transit along the Balkan stream (from those who are nearby) and if this value is very different in +, then no, no, but an argument in favor of bypass routes ... politics will remain politics ... but even Europeans will push for modernization ...
            1. Avior
              Avior 14 January 2021 16: 52
              -2
              It may be less
              They will write a plate in which the fee depends on the volume, and they will write down the minimum.
              And everything seems to be about garlic - if you want less, download more.
              And leave without transit at all - the Germans will not want to quarrel with the Americans like that
  6. Kushka
    Kushka 14 January 2021 14: 43
    -4
    Do they need him? From transit Ukraine
    had $ 3 billion. Now every year
    from some gasterbayters has 9-12 billion.
    Its gas is 20 billion. The population needs 17.
    Akhmetov and Kolomoisky all their metallurgy
    sell for currency over the hill - this is a private business.
    Let him choose - in Asia today, 1000 bucks for
    1000 cubic meters, in Europe - 350 - and buys for his health.
    If you are not competitive with China,
    let him give the steelworks back to the state, and at home
    will supply a solid fuel boiler.
  7. Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 14 January 2021 14: 49
    +3
    Gazprom hangs out pipelayers here and there like a professional thimbler.
    I don’t understand for a long time where the "ball" is.
    Why does it seem like this
    "I twist and twist I want to cheat" will still lead to the desired ending.

    Although, of course, all this movement, suggests that with the EU it is necessary to do business in a special way.
    1. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 14 January 2021 15: 38
      +1
      And you have often seen a professional thimbler lose. As in an anecdote, we will go down the mountain and with the herd we will do as we need to ...
      1. sustav75
        sustav75 14 January 2021 17: 25
        -6
        Miller and his top managers are professional thieves! With their unrealistic salaries and wealth they fly very far from the people! And I don't understand the adherents who gag here ...
    2. Asad
      Asad 16 January 2021 13: 17
      0
      Four news releases on VO per day about sp2, one will be built! The rest will build but later!
  8. evgen1221
    evgen1221 14 January 2021 14: 50
    -2
    Here, take for fun and raise articles on VO on SP2 and a month and a half. There, these barges turn out to simply rush here and there (judging by the articles) without benefit.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 14 January 2021 15: 16
      0
      experience and equipment of pipelayers must be tailored to projects on Far East Sakhalin awaits Chersky. beautiful far away.
  9. Tagan
    Tagan 14 January 2021 14: 51
    +6
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Magic Archer
    Educate anyone in the know. And when the Nord Stream is completed, will Nezalezhnaya be completely removed from our gas system or not?

    No. The Germans are against. Although the chancellor there is to be replaced this year. But I think the approaches will remain the same.

    The Germans are "against" for show.
    In five years, the ukrobrots themselves will no longer be able to support the pipe, both because of its dilapidation and because of the decreasing volumes.
    The Germans are no worse than their "brothers" and understand this very well.
    1. major147
      major147 14 January 2021 15: 12
      +6
      Quote: Tagan
      In five years, the ukrobrots themselves will no longer be able to support the pipe, both because of its dilapidation and because of the decreasing volumes.

      "According to the Ukrainian economist, emergency situations in Ukraine occur systematically, because the Ukrainian gas transportation infrastructure is very outdated, and no one is going to modernize it. For example, just recently, two or three months ago, there was a powerful explosion of a gas pipeline in the Kharkiv region and it was found that the reasons The other day the same thing happened at the gas pipeline in the Poltava region.
      However, Naftogaz does nothing to save the situation, they only raise their salaries and write bonuses. Europe sees all this, the expert emphasized, and draws appropriate conclusions. "
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 14 January 2021 15: 25
        +3
        Quote: major147
        According to the Ukrainian economist, emergency situations in Ukraine occur systematically, because the Ukrainian gas transportation infrastructure is very outdated. The other day the same thing happened at the gas pipeline in the Poltava region.

        Outdated or ... near Poltava it is not entirely clear there -. “How could Mosiychuk declare about sabotage before the responsible state services and the owner of the gas pipeline? If he says that there was a sabotage, maybe he did it himself? Mosiychuk has been trying to seize Lubnygaz for several years,” - Lubnygaz.
        1. major147
          major147 14 January 2021 15: 27
          +3
          Quote: BrTurin
          Is it outdated or ... near Poltava it is not entirely clear there -

          There is such a thing, but they officially declare it a "technical problem".
    2. Avior
      Avior 14 January 2021 15: 20
      -3
      discussions on the transit of gas through Ukraine, told RIA Novosti in the Ministry of Economy and Energy of Germany.

      “The position of the federal government in relation to Nord Stream 2 remains clear: we are talking about a commercial project that should take into account Ukraine's legitimate interests. This is the reason why Minister Altmaier paved the way by making visits to Ukraine and Russia for direct negotiations between Russia, Ukraine and the European Commission, ”the department said.

      Yeah. A check mark will cost Gazprom a pretty penny ...
  10. Operator
    Operator 14 January 2021 14: 58
    +1
    Well, sho, people are Russophobes, foreign agents, Bandera, Chukhonts, Litvins and other freaks: Hitler kaput, come out to surrender with your hands up bully
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 14 January 2021 15: 19
      +1
      the russopetsnazo will pass through the pipe in a buggy and immediately to Brussels - the NATO headquarters.
      while the Germans are bargaining, they do not agree to surrender their owners.
      Have you tried to "fit" Kadyrov's buggy into a 1.5 m pipe diameter?
      1. dedusik
        dedusik 14 January 2021 15: 35
        +2
        Quote: antivirus
        the russopetsnazo will pass through the pipe in a buggy and immediately to Brussels - the NATO headquarters.
        while the Germans are bargaining, they do not agree to surrender their owners.
        Have you tried to "fit" Kadyrov's buggy into a 1.5 m pipe diameter?


        On the Censor it is intensely exaggerated bully
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 14 January 2021 16: 00
          0
          will build Hyperluk and, by analogy, will drive trains along all pipelines. and the rockets will fly inside the pipes with fuses in time or in certain magnetic fields.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 14 January 2021 18: 52
            +2
            And this will only affect the Ukrainian GTS after 2025.
      2. Petr Vladimirovich
        Petr Vladimirovich 15 January 2021 14: 50
        +1
        And what, and it was. A film about Bond, climbed into a gas pipe in Bratislava and across the Danube to Austria. Noise, din, bangers, got out already in Vienna, straightened the butterfly and go!
  11. Roman070280
    Roman070280 14 January 2021 15: 00
    -1
    vessels are being pulled into the pipeline laying area


    This is news, so news !!
  12. Tagan
    Tagan 14 January 2021 15: 09
    +2
    Quote: silberwolf88
    winter in Europe is harsh ... snow fell in Madrid!))) ... the price has risen ... so the need for gas in Europe has become even more obvious ... the rest is political games of devotion to certain "common ideals" ...

    With frost and the head becomes cold, which has a positive effect on mental processes and concepts such as "European values" as well as various "solidarities" for all sorts of reasons fade into the background.
    Only "brothers" - eccentrics and ears are cold.
    1. major147
      major147 14 January 2021 15: 22
      +6
      Quote: Tagan
      With frost and the head becomes cold, which has a positive effect on mental processes and concepts such as "European values" as well as various "solidarities" for all sorts of reasons fade into the background.

      This is confirmed by the fact that in previous years, during severe frosts in Europe, the Europeans somehow at once forgot about the ban on 100% gas pumping by Gazprom through SP-1 and drove gas through it in excess of its declared capacity, and then bashfully lowering their eyes muttered that then about the tests request
      1. dedusik
        dedusik 14 January 2021 15: 45
        +2
        And now they are additionally pumping gas from underground storage facilities in Europe

        At the same time, Gazprom, although it has previously booked additional capacities for gas transit through the Ukrainian gas transportation corridor, is still reducing its load and is actively choosing reserves from underground gas storage facilities (UGS) in Europe.

        Thus, Gazprom can pump up to 110 million cubic meters of gas through Ukraine per day under a long-term transit contract and another 41,2 million cubic meters for additional booking, but in fact, pumping is now at the level of 100 million cubic meters versus 182,8 million cubic meters per day. December. In the absence of Nord Stream 2 capacities, the company seeks to fully utilize Turkish Stream and Nord Stream. At the same time, high reserves of gas from underground storage facilities in Europe are declining at a record pace: in the first 8 days of January, they fell by 7%, to 66 billion cubic meters. By restraining supplies through Ukraine, Gazprom is "drying up" the European market, creating conditions for maintaining high prices at the end of winter.

        The reason for the rise in prices in Europe, in addition to the cold weather, was a decrease in LNG supplies - all free gas goes to Asia, where prices are breaking historical records.
        https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4639645
    2. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 14 January 2021 15: 41
      +3
      They have a saucepan on their heads so that the fish soup does not freeze laughing
  13. Tagan
    Tagan 14 January 2021 15: 16
    +2
    Quote: Roman070280
    vessels are being pulled into the pipeline laying area


    This is news, so news !!

    News from last year, at least in terms of intentions.
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 14 January 2021 15: 17
    +2
    If you suffer for a long time, whatever happens .... a pipeline, for example!
  15. Tagan
    Tagan 14 January 2021 15: 22
    +1
    Quote: Avior
    ... if a decent share of pumped volumes through Ukraine is reduced

    Then the pumping price will rise, they will not pump at a loss, and the Germans understand this perfectly.

    For a certain period, they may twist the handles, but everything goes to one.
    1. major147
      major147 14 January 2021 15: 37
      0
      Quote: Tagan
      Quote: Avior
      ... if a decent share of pumped volumes through Ukraine is reduced

      Then the pumping price will rise, they will not pump at a loss, and the Germans understand this perfectly.

      For a certain period, they may twist the handles, but everything goes to one.

      Moreover, Gazprom has the ability to supply gas to Europe via the gas pipeline from Azerbaijan to the Southern Gas Corridor Southern Gas Corridor
      "Today seven countries are involved in the SGC project - Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkey, Bulgaria, Greece, Albania and Italy. But I am sure that at the next stage, three Balkan countries will join the project - Bosnia and Herzegovina, Croatia, Montenegro," he said Aliev (quotes from Interfax).
      But there is not enough Azerbaijani gas to fill the pipeline 100%, and Iran and Turkmenistan cannot participate in supplies "for various" reasons, although they were counting on them.
  16. morpogr
    morpogr 14 January 2021 15: 45
    +5
    Transit through Ukraine has already dropped by 40% due to the south stream. Now the completion of SP2 will deprive free money and the possibility of blackmailing the EU by Ukraine completely. And in the light of the merriment in the city on the hill and the transition of power, the split in society and the witch-hunt, Europe grew bolder and began to ignore the hegemon. bully
  17. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 January 2021 15: 51
    +2
    Don't worry about them. They are in the summer of the Russian Federation (represented by Gazprom) a claim brought forward for the cold in winter.

    The Russian Federation is to blame for this. There is no doubt about it. laughing
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 14 January 2021 16: 05
      -1
      They will be put forward, we will slide them into the return line, and we live like that. lol
  18. Asad
    Asad 14 January 2021 15: 52
    -3
    Something did not find news about solving problems with certification of joint venture 2. Who will tell you where to look?
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 14 January 2021 16: 03
      +2
      What are you, a manager at SP-2? lol
      1. Asad
        Asad 14 January 2021 16: 06
        0
        Did I ask you something illegal or indecent?
        1. Ros 56
          Ros 56 14 January 2021 16: 09
          0
          I was just kidding, and you reared. fellow hi
    2. Brturin
      Brturin 14 January 2021 16: 13
      +2
      Quote: ASAD
      Something did not find news about solving problems with certification of joint venture 2

      Why post them now? There were so many conversations about who will be installing, but in the end they found out about it literally before starting work ...
  19. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 January 2021 15: 53
    +1
    The main thing for Gazprom is to take all this into account.
    And, whenever possible, to link * consideration * of the issue of increasing supplies with compensation for damage caused (with fines in the amount of the coefficient perpetuated by Marx) and the issuance of persons involved in lobbying.
    With 100% prepayment, pedestrian transportation services to educational institutions of the Magadan Territory. wassat
  20. yuriy55
    yuriy55 14 January 2021 15: 54
    +2
    Gazprom starts completing construction of the Danish section of Nord Stream 2

    Meanwhile, Denmark said that the operator of Nord Stream 2, Nord Stream 2 AG, has transferred the schedule of plans for the construction of the gas pipeline; work will begin on January 15, 2021. The Danish Energy Agency has no construction claims, all conditions have been met.

    good
    It's time to develop the topic of completion dates ... yes
  21. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 January 2021 15: 58
    +1
    what is happening in Europe now, it's not frost yet ...

    Some excerpts from the annals:

    In 859, the Adriatic Sea was so frozen that it was possible to walk to Venice on the ice.

    In 1010 - 1011, frosts chained the Turkish Black Sea coast. The frightful cold reached Africa, where the lower Nile was covered with ice.

    In 1210-1211 the Po and Rhone rivers froze over. In Venice, convoys traveled along the frozen Adriatic Sea.

    In 1326, the entire Mediterranean Sea froze over.

    In 1365, the Rhine was covered with ice for three months.

    In 1558, an entire army of 40 camped on the frozen Danube, and in France the frozen wine was sold by weight.

    In 1709, it was -24 degrees in Paris for many days; the wine froze in the cellars and the bells cracked during the ringing.

    Everything can happen again. laughing
    1. Petr Vladimirovich
      Petr Vladimirovich 15 January 2021 15: 27
      -1
      Gennady in pursuit.
      -40 in Snuffle remembered three times
      1971, terribly fashionable coat, with a velvet collar, like Lenin, was good
      1982, went to the presence on Treshka, they started up cars during the day, 20 tons bulldozers drove along Sadovoe, they broke the tracks with caterpillars, it was good
      2011, in the house of my grandson, I grabbed water from a well at the entrance to the house, I drove canisters from a neighbor on a sled, it was good ...
  22. Ros 56
    Ros 56 14 January 2021 16: 02
    0
    Well, tomorrow they will start, by the spring-summer they will probably finish, then the registration, various bureaucratic troubles and by the fall you can congratulate the banderlog on the start of the SP-2, otherwise they were so worried. wassat
  23. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 January 2021 16: 05
    0
    Quote: Ros 56
    What are you, a manager at SP-2? lol

    No just a spectator laughing
  24. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 January 2021 16: 15
    +1
    Let Father Lukashenka buy uh ... laughing He has a surplus now.
  25. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 January 2021 16: 19
    0
    It is fortunate for Europe that so far Gazprom has no opportunity to transfer gas from West Siberian fields to Asia. Putin was going to China this year, they will probably sign an agreement on the Power of Siberia-2. The resource base for it will initially be the fields that are used for supplies to Europe from Western Siberia, in contrast to Power of Siberia-1, the resource base of which is not associated with Europeans. For firewood where they rush laughing
    1. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 14 January 2021 16: 54
      +2
      They have a lot of them for the Sumerians wassat I don't want to drink hi
  26. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 January 2021 16: 27
    0
    But now the GP will wait until the Germans themselves will finish building SP2 .... - With handles in scuba gear. laughingGive sanctions to SP2 from Russia !!! laughing
  27. 123456789
    123456789 14 January 2021 19: 48
    0
    Quote: malo
    Alternatively, pipeline gas can be mixed with US gas (LNG) nitrogen and declare with honest eyes: "We have only American!"
  28. 123456789
    123456789 14 January 2021 20: 12
    +1
    Quote: antivirus
    will build Hyperluk and, by analogy, will drive trains along all pipelines. and the rockets will fly inside the pipes with fuses in time or in certain magnetic fields.

    build Hyperpuk
  29. Turist1996
    Turist1996 14 January 2021 20: 38
    +2
    Quote: sustav75
    Our retirees will notice!

    Whose, I'm ashamed to ask?
  30. Turist1996
    Turist1996 14 January 2021 20: 41
    +1
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    It is fortunate for Europe that so far Gazprom has no opportunity to transfer gas from West Siberian fields to Asia. Putin was going to China this year, they will probably sign an agreement on the Power of Siberia-2. The resource base for it will initially be the fields that are used for supplies to Europe from Western Siberia, in contrast to Power of Siberia-1, the resource base of which is not associated with Europeans. For firewood where they rush laughing

    And why you minusanuli, I still do not understand .. All is well, as you described.
  31. Turist1996
    Turist1996 14 January 2021 20: 48
    +2
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    It is fortunate for Europe that so far Gazprom has no opportunity to transfer gas from West Siberian fields to Asia. Putin was going to China this year, they will probably sign an agreement on the Power of Siberia-2. The resource base for it will initially be the fields that are used for supplies to Europe from Western Siberia, in contrast to Power of Siberia-1, the resource base of which is not associated with Europeans. For firewood where they rush laughing

    This topic has long been exaggerated: "The Power of Siberia-2" through the Tomsk Region, Novosibirsk Region, Altai Territory, the Altai Republic, Mongolia and here you are, the northwest of China!
    It is just energy-deficient, and the closest to it is the gas fields of Western Siberia, not Eastern ..
    And that's all - adyos, amigos from Western Europe ..
  32. 123456789
    123456789 14 January 2021 20: 50
    +1
    Quote: Vadim237
    UGTS which will soon begin to fall apart

    There have already been two explosions. How much longer does it take for it to start falling apart? laughing
  33. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 14 January 2021 20: 54
    +2
    Quote: Turist1996
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    It is fortunate for Europe that so far Gazprom has no opportunity to transfer gas from West Siberian fields to Asia. Putin was going to China this year, they will probably sign an agreement on the Power of Siberia-2. The resource base for it will initially be the fields that are used for supplies to Europe from Western Siberia, in contrast to Power of Siberia-1, the resource base of which is not associated with Europeans. For firewood where they rush laughing

    And why you minusanuli, I still do not understand .. All is well, as you described.

    Let me get used to it, but for the alternative "lovers" of Europe, here it is: laughing At such average temperatures, the whole geyropka will perform this approximately. laughing
  34. Amadeus Ivanov
    Amadeus Ivanov 14 January 2021 22: 02
    +2
    Let's live a little, and then we'll see! And then this news about the installation of SP2 is already starting to get! Here's how to put it, so let's talk ...
  35. pexotinec
    pexotinec 15 January 2021 08: 55
    +1
    This project showed the true independence of Europe. For their own money, they received sanctions and did not utter a word.
  36. Petr Vladimirovich
    Petr Vladimirovich 15 January 2021 15: 40
    0
    Great branch! Bright, rich, humorous!
    Good luck to all colleagues !!!
  37. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 15 January 2021 16: 08
    0
    Quote: Petr Vladimirovich
    Gennady in pursuit.
    -40 in Snuffle remembered three times
    1971, terribly fashionable coat, with a velvet collar, like Lenin, was good
    1982, went to the presence on Treshka, they started up cars during the day, 20 tons bulldozers drove along Sadovoe, they broke the tracks with caterpillars, it was good
    2011, in the house of my grandson, I grabbed water from a well at the entrance to the house, I drove canisters from a neighbor on a sled, it was good ...

    Fervently said laughing Write more ...
  38. xomaNN
    xomaNN 15 January 2021 18: 09
    0
    All "partners" and "friends" were confused by throwing pipelayers across all seas. If only you don't get confused wassat

    It's time from words to deeds, SP-2! drinks