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Who will rule the people's republics in the near future?

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Source: donetskafisha.ru


Genre crisis


After another meeting within the Normandy format, despite the more than restrained comments of the Deputy Head of the Presidential Administration of the Russian Federation Dmitry Kozak, the network was instantly filled with an avalanche of “insiders” and “analysts”.

Among other things, "insiders" said that the issue of holding elections in the LPNR was discussed in Berlin (obviously, according to Ukrainian laws). To what extent these "insiders" correspond to reality and whether Ukrainian parties will ever appear in the LPNR are still dark questions. Nevertheless, the discussion of this topic prompted an idea: who in the republics is ready to fight for powers?

If the 2018 elections in the republics frankly resembled a farce (if only due to the lack of a real alternative to the appointees - Leonid Pasechnik and Denis Pushilin), the next ones threaten to turn into a tragedy: a bitter realization of the fact that in the seven years of their existence, the republics were never able to create though would be a semblance of elites attractive to the population.

Recognizable and charismatic personalities from 2014 (mostly field commanders) are almost all dead or in exile. And those who replaced them are hardly able to win the people's love. Not to mention the fact that they too often become involved in scandals.

However, let's take a closer look.

Protective resource


Considering that public life in the LDNR is exclusively nomenklatura, voluntary-compulsory in nature, it would be foolish to expect the appearance of attractive candidates from activists in the electoral field.

There are only a few recognizable surnames for both republics. These are the head of the People's Druzhina of the DPR Roman Troshin (arrested on New Year's Eve), the chairman of the DPR Public Chamber Alexander Kofman (not very popular), his opponent - a member of the DPR Public Chamber Alexander Bolotin (released on November 5 after 11 months in prison for libel) and a member of the LPR Public Chamber Gleb Bobrov, known in narrow literary circles. The fame (and merits) of the rest are very conditional.

The situation is not much better among officials, ministers and deputies of the People's Councils. Someone is known by sight simply because they appear on the screens from time to time, but this, of course, does not add much attraction. And sometimes vice versa - it hurts. As, for example, in the case of the mayor of Gorlovka, Ivan Prikhodko, who is easily recognized far beyond the DNR, but is hardly remembered with a kind word.

There are people who have become familiar enough, such as, for example, the same deputy of the People's Council of the DPR Vladislav Berdichevsky ("Brig"). He is a regular talk show frequenter and active blogger. However, what he says often runs counter to the status of a politician and can only attract the electorate with irreconcilable hatred of Ukrainian nationalists. Perhaps he could even have been able to build on this his election platform - at least some kind of capital against the backdrop of a series of colorless talking heads. At the same time, Berdichevsky regularly brings in - he speaks much faster than he thinks.

The rest of the figures in the public space are either little-known, or cause a certain rejection in connection with frequent scandals and the work of the structures entrusted to them.

In any case, there are very few state people in the LPR who would be radiant with charisma and evoke positive emotions among the masses, and this is especially true for the already acting people's representatives.

The only exception is the deputy of the People's Council of the DPR Anastasia Selivanova, whose active work made it easier for many residents of the republic to obtain republican documents and Russian citizenship. To be honest, this is scanty capital, but others don't even have that.

Revolution is canceled


Little better, to admit, the situation in the camp of the so-called opposition, headed in the DPR by ex-speaker of the People's Council of the Republic, Andrei Purgin, and in the LPR by activist Anastasia Pyaterikova.

For several months now they have been trying to register a public organization (apparently with the aim of later turning it into a party), but they are predictably denied registration.

Another blow was the loss of a faithful ally - the Donetsk blogger Roman Manekin, who was detained before the New Year after screenshots appeared on the network, allegedly indicating Manekin's attempts to do business with Kiev. It's too early to talk about the credibility of the accusations, but even if the accusations turn out to be false, the blogger's nerves will be worn out pretty much.

However, all this is secondary. The main problem of the Donetsk-Luhansk opposition is the complete absence of any program of action. The only thing they can offer to the electorate is their own candidacies to replace Pasechnik and Pushilin.

Timid attempts to publish their recipes for a brighter future were justly ridiculed, as they boiled down to

"Inheritance of the experience of the Donetsk-Krivoy Rog republic"

and general phrases.

It is clear that criticism of the authorities resonates in the hearts of voters, but the program

"Choose me and everything will be fine at once"

looks not too attractive.

In addition, deprived of access to the main channels for disseminating information, the opposition is forced to be content with the audience of social networks and Telegram, several controlled Internet resources and rare attention of more or less major newsmen. And this gives insignificant coverage in comparison with those mouthpieces that are available to government officials.

The problems are added by the ambiguous past of Pyaterikova and Purgin, as well as their consonance with Ukrainian propaganda. Enemy media simply adore their publications and at some point it may seem that they are doing a common cause. At the very least, opponents will definitely paint the situation in this light.

Free shooters


If in Lugansk everything is very similar

"My own party",

which can be contradicted, but not for long, in Donetsk there is still a certain illusion of pluralism, provided by the activities of persons who do not belong either to the opposition camp or to the party in power.

This is conditional, since in the power itself in the DPR there is an intense struggle of at least three factions, so that there is no single "party".

Personalities such as Igor Khakimzyanov (he was the DPR defense minister for several days in 2014), ex-commander of the Vostok battalion Alexander Khodakovsky, the leader of local communists Boris Litvinov and several other more or less recognizable persons regularly appear on social networks and in the media. who, in theory, could take part in the elections.

All this, however, is not serious (the Donetsk leftists were wiped out of power in November 2014 and are unlikely to be allowed to return), except for Khodakovsky, who is active in social networks. He is the only easily recognizable commander of the "first". And it is quite capable of competing for this or that post. However, a big problem for Alexander Khodakovsky was and will be the unexplored attempt to storm the Donetsk airport on May 26, 2014, during which dozens of militias from the Iskra unit were killed.

To this day, many are eager to ask about this from Khodakovsky, who, moreover, was periodically in difficult relations with the late head of the DPR, Alexander Zakharchenko. So with a high degree of probability it can be argued that social networks will remain the lot of the ex-commander.

Conclusions are disappointing


The reality is that today in the LPR there are no public figures who could seriously count on the support of the population. The era of heroes is over, modern commanders are unknown, oppositionists are toothless, and officials and ministers are justly blamed for the hardships of life in the republics and for many local troubles and troubles.

Everyone has something to ask for, no one evokes an unambiguously positive reaction and sympathy. In addition, a big problem is the incompetence of the potential candidates themselves - what can I say if in Lugansk and Donetsk there are only a few deputies of the People's Council in sight, while the rest do not seem to exist?

All this suggests that in the event of elections, the situation will develop according to the previous patterns - there will be the only true candidates, whose victory will be ensured by all possible and impossible means, and several extras. And the rest will have to cry on social networks about how their

“They didn’t allow it and hurt”.

It is quite possible that there is simply no other way out. And if the republics are given complete carte blanche for absolutely democratic elections, chaos will begin in the style of the 90s.

Well, the most fantastic scenario is the holding of elections under Ukrainian law under the control of the OSCE and in the presence of representatives of the Ukrainian CEC.

Today it looks like an impossible task. (How to ensure the safety of candidates from the territory controlled by Ukraine and their assistants? How to track the SBU agents among all these people?) Therefore, it is extremely difficult to make any predictions.

However, this does not affect the unattractiveness of local candidates and the absence of strong, charismatic politicians.

At the same time, it should be admitted that if elections take place under Ukrainian law, it is safe to say that the local population will vote, first of all, against candidates from Ukraine (if they are allowed). And they will choose anyone, if only from the locals.

However, this is a topic for a separate study.
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  1. xomaNN
    xomaNN 17 January 2021 15: 23
    +11
    In the DPR and LPR they were so carried away by "clearing the field" that it became a desert! hi
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 17 January 2021 15: 31
      +17
      Is the situation much better in Russia? For 20 years they have been trying to tell us that there is no alternative to Putin, despite all his epic shoals, and in the same way they are diligently cleaning up the political clearing .. So Donbass is just a small Russian Federation. That is why all political liberty is more visible ...
      1. Crowe
        Crowe 17 January 2021 15: 34
        +22
        there are no public figures who could seriously count on the support of the population. oppositionists are toothless, and officials and ministers are justly blamed for the hardships of life. Everyone has something to ask for, no one evokes an unequivocally positive reaction and sympathy.

        I am tormented by vague suspicions that somewhere I have already seen this ...
        there will be the only true candidates, whose victory will be ensured by all possible and impossible means, and a few extras.

        Something that strongly resembles ... Ah! Exactly! Our elections! Regional and municipal. And the Duma too.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 17 January 2021 16: 40
          +9
          "If something depended on the elections, we would not be allowed to participate in them"
          Mark Twain
      2. sleeve
        sleeve 18 January 2021 04: 48
        -3
        Putin again ?!
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 18 January 2021 05: 09
          +3
          Quote: sleeve
          Putin again ?!

          He is... wink
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 17 January 2021 15: 25
    -4
    I don’t know how "insiders" ... I know an insurgent from the DPR from the site, but he definitely understands everything, tells everyone everything, in general, a real leader! And he hates his neighbors with all his fierce truth! Face Candidate.
    1. businessv
      businessv 17 January 2021 16: 36
      +2
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      I know an insurgent from the DPR on the website, but he definitely understands everything, tells everyone everything, in general, a real leader!

      Yeah, does he need this leadership? Normal, self-sufficient and intelligent people, as a rule, do not want to go into politics! Unless only when it becomes impossible to tolerate the stupidity and hopelessness of the existing state of affairs. I wonder who again molds the sleepers (cons) without justification in the post?
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 18 January 2021 09: 25
      0
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      I don’t know how "insiders" ... I know an insurgent from the DPR from the site, but he definitely understands everything, tells everyone everything, in general, a real leader! And he hates his neighbors with all his fierce truth! Face Candidate.

      Woo-oh how it is ... what
      The leader of the ukrosvidomes remembered me yes ... Wow ... Glory to your bells lol

      I will not go into politics No. , uZBeGeY yes

      I'd rather get into the mud of the trenches again than into the unholy swamp of politics and bureaucracy.
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 18 January 2021 09: 33
        -6
        I'm better off in the dirt
        Yes, you probably won't get out of there ...
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 18 January 2021 09: 35
          +1
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          I'm better off in the dirt
          Yes, you probably won't get out of there ...


          So you see it from your Svidomo ditch.

          But in fact we are:





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  3. samarin1969
    samarin1969 17 January 2021 15: 37
    +8
    The regular writer is too critical. Even the powers were and are often led by completely uncharismatic compromise figures. Former "alpha" member and Purgin with Litvinov - only in the case of "plan B". Rather, they will look for someone from the "former" regionals: ideologies are "zero", they know how to divide the budget, they will learn New Year's greetings without foul language. bully
  4. Radikal
    Radikal 17 January 2021 15: 46
    0
    Who will rule the people's republics in the near future?

    Biden with Zelensky. sad
    1. Semenov
      Semenov 17 January 2021 16: 51
      +19
      Quote: Radikal
      Biden with Zelensky.

      The second is superfluous. And the first will not be.
  5. A_Lex
    A_Lex 17 January 2021 15: 49
    +10
    In any case, there are very few state people in the LPR who would be radiant with charisma and evoke positive emotions among the masses, and this is especially true for the already acting people's representatives.


    It follows from the article that a politician is one who is "charismatic", i.e. outwardly like people, as well as the one who says what people want to hear. Those. a politician is a beautiful form that does not have to be followed by any content. It is interesting that if you remove the word "politician" from the text, then the stated requirements are associated with another profession - an actor.

    It turns out that the role of a politician is essentially identical to the role of an actor, since the task of both is to create a coherent, memorable image and successfully sell it to the audience. So the actor plays on the stage the role of a king that has not existed for a long time, and the politician plays on the podium the role of the people's leader, who in fact is also absent. Those. by the image is naturally meant a fictitious personality, one that is actively portrayed, but which is absent in reality. This naturally and practically constantly leads to the same situation when the words of a politician, spoken by him on behalf of a non-existent image, diverge from real deeds.

    And the whole difference between a politician and an actor is that an actor plays on stage, and a politician in real life. And since both are playing, then both are essentially cheating. And both, of course, are not independent, since they depend on the "director".

    In this regard, it is curious that the author laments the lack of an assortment of bright politicians who would beautifully deceive the people.

    It is quite possible that there is simply no other way out. And if the republics are given complete carte blanche for absolutely democratic elections, chaos will begin in the style of the 90s.


    An even more curious conclusion is that since there are no charismatic politicians who would sincerely lie so that the people would believe them, then there are truly democratic elections, i.e. such elections in which everyone can nominate themselves cannot be held. Why not? Because "chaos" can begin! What does "chaos" mean? This means that in the absence of bright politicians on whom the people can bite, anyone can win.

    Those. the problem with "truly democratic elections" is that a candidate who has not been agreed beforehand can win. Moreover, a candidate who is not engaged in selling a non-existent image to a voter, but a real, real person, whose actions correspond to his words. Such a person who will not be able to pull the strings behind the curtains of the play called "democratic elections", which means that it may potentially have to be eliminated, which in turn will negatively affect the very image of the "democratic system" in which the people allegedly deliberately choose their leader, who makes political decisions supposedly in the interests of the people.
    1. A_Lex
      A_Lex 17 January 2021 16: 25
      +5
      Refinement.

      And the whole difference between a politician and an actor is that the actor plays on a specially designed stage and the audience KNOW that they are facing an actor who portrays a non-existent person within the framework of a rigidly approved script.
      Whereas the politician plays in real life and the audience DOES NOT KNOW that they are facing an actor who portrays a non-existent person.

      It turns out that a politician is much worse than an actor, because he cheating on trust.

      Those. according to the author, a politician who deceives not on stage, but in real life, is good, correct and, in exquisite language, respectable.

      In this regard, the current level of degradation of civilization in which the most important competence is the ability to beautifully deceive.
      1. dauria
        dauria 17 January 2021 20: 10
        +2
        And the whole difference between a politician and an actor ...


        The Boris Shchukin Theater Institute announces the recruitment of students for the specialty "President of the Russian Federation, Minister of Defense, leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, leader of the Liberal Democratic Party, oppositionist" Job placement is guaranteed.
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 17 January 2021 20: 14
          +1
          Quote: dauria
          The Boris Shchukin Theater Institute announces the recruitment of students for the specialty "President of the Russian Federation, Minister

          What kind of students?
  6. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 January 2021 15: 53
    0
    And who is Yegor Mokhov who criticizes everyone, probably the navel of the earth, at least. request
  7. businessv
    businessv 17 January 2021 16: 26
    0
    the bitter realization of the fact that over the seven years of their existence, the republics have failed to create at least a semblance of elites attractive to the population.
    An interesting position of the author, who is not concerned with the creation of a national or state idea that would be attractive to the population, namely, the creation of a kind of elite! Apparently, today this is a trend in Russia - the creation of elites, which the people do not need at all, as well as the people of the "elites", as a rule! And the very statehood of the LPR would not hurt to strengthen.
  8. 113262a
    113262a 17 January 2021 16: 33
    +2
    The question is, will the passing candidates want to be elected? And indeed, to be candidates. People who have been in politics for a long time have skeletons in their closets. Very smart, charismatic and experienced Spiridon Kilinkarov, but again, would he want to? Yes, the people of Luhansk have questions about his past life, but people are really into the subject, and in Moscow he dug connections for 7 years. The language is suspended For Miroshnik, I would not vote, because there are no former KOMSOMOLTSEV!))) Yes, a voice was raised, ( worked at our television center), but I DO NOT BELIEVE! IMHO. In Donetsk, it is more difficult, everything must correspond to the image of Zakharchenko in a good way! Any fakes are immediately redeemed and rejected. The dark side of Bati almost does not play a role - people remember him in a positive way.
    1. Newven
      Newven 17 January 2021 19: 58
      0
      Quote: 113262
      The question is, will the passing candidates want to be elected?

      It's a pity that Zakharchenko died, only he and Pasechnik were perceived as worthy leaders! Real men, respected by everyone in the DLNR Motorola and Givi, did not think about politics, they are our real Heroes. It is a pity that Bolotov died and Mozgovoy died; they might have manifested their political goals. And we still remember what the charismatic leaders of the LPR, such as Dremov with his independent Cossack republic and the chieftain Kosogor from Krasny Luch, were worth.
      1. 113262a
        113262a 17 January 2021 20: 30
        -2
        Watching travel guide from Moscow is needed! Then he will understand the ELITE!
  9. ccsr
    ccsr 17 January 2021 16: 44
    0
    Author:
    Yegor Makhov
    And they will choose anyone, if only from the locals.

    Minin was also not from the elite, but together with Pozharsky headed the liberation of the country from the Poles. So there may be honest citizens in Donbass who are not from the elite who can lead these republics relying on their authority, since the majority of citizens rely only on locals. So while I am not observing tragedy, but from the author's text it is clear that there is a petty squabble among some insignificant figures. What did the author want to tell us about and what to warn us about?
    However, this is a topic for a separate study.

    Let us make new studies at least in terms of which personalities in the local field have support in regional cities and with whom Moscow representatives are negotiating. Because in my opinion, it is from this environment that the heads of these regions will be elected, which means that you need to pay attention to them.
    1. Avior
      Avior 18 January 2021 10: 05
      0
      Minin was also not from the elite, but together with Pozharsky led the liberation of the country from the Poles.

      and those who did not want to be freed were sold into slavery smile
      Prince Dmitry Pozharsky was chosen as the leader of the militia, who was then being treated for wounds in the Nizhny Novgorod estate and who wished that the economic part of the militia was entrusted to Minin. With the support of Pozharsky's troops, Minin evaluated the property of the Nizhny Novgorod population and determined the part that should go to the militia. On the advice of Minin, they were given "the third money", that is, a third of the property, or, in some cases, a fifth. Individuals who did not want to allocate the required amount were given to slaves, and their property was completely confiscated.

      But actually Kozma Mininelite, one of the two Duma nobles who thought of the Duma under Mikhail Romanov.
      The second is Gabriel Pushkin, appointed by the Duma nobleman False Dmitry 1. This is how the two of them sat together with the boyars. smile
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 18 January 2021 12: 18
        0
        Quote: Avior
        and those who did not want to be freed were sold into slavery

        I did not understand the "flight" of your thoughts.

        Quote: Avior
        But actually, Kozma Minin is the elite, one of the two Duma nobles,

        And historians, on the basis of documents, say something else:
        The city council convened to discuss the diploma was attended by the clergy and elders in the city. Among the participants was Kuzma Minin, elected in September zemstvo (posad) headman - a man of average income and a butcher by trade.

        However, he still and did not come close to the one who was considered the elite at the time.
        1. Avior
          Avior 18 January 2021 12: 42
          0
          yes, at that time the butcher made his career later.
          then the place of a person was determined by the order of the signature.
          Minin signed 15, Prince Pozharsky - 10.
          who was considered the elite at the time

          Rurikovich, who else.
          But this was quickly corrected. At the Zemsky Sobor, the Rurikovichs were declared foreigners, and for the defeat of their rights, no kingdom was declared to foreign agents. The elite changed quickly. And the new tsar, whom some elite until recently Boris Godunov with his parents sent into exile on the denunciation of his own uncle, was returned from distant places by the decree of False Dmitry 1, who ruled until Valuev shot him, that's all the elite. The elite was rapidly changing at that time.smile
  10. dgonni
    dgonni 17 January 2021 16: 44
    0
    There will be no elections under Ukrainian law! Ukraine will not agree to this. At least until you get full control of the border with Russia!
    The rest of the selection attempts are described correctly. They will send managers from Moscow and elect them cheerfully and publicly.
    P.S. If Ukraine's economy is strained again, the procedure for paying pensions will be easily tightened.
    The author understands what I am writing about. And given the level of pensions in the industrial region, this will be stronger than carpet bombing.
    The funny thing is that nothing in the legislation of Ukraine needs to be changed before milking this. Just oblige to pay money not to the card but through the mail.
    Considering that the minimum pension of a miner with 25 years of underground experience is UAH 7500. And those who have more than 10000. That in the republics will not be very fun in terms of finance.
  11. bandabas
    bandabas 17 January 2021 17: 40
    0
    Pans are fighting, the lads' forelocks are cracking.
  12. Radikal
    Radikal 17 January 2021 18: 08
    +2
    Quote: Semenov
    Quote: Radikal
    Biden with Zelensky.

    The second is superfluous. And the first will not be.

    Several years ago, it was still possible to count in a different way, however, if you do not go into details, now a completely different reality has developed ... sad
  13. Cucumbers
    Cucumbers 17 January 2021 18: 22
    -2
    They will come from Russia from the Crimea that you are upset. They need competent technicians, the image they need to create
  14. Baloo
    Baloo 17 January 2021 18: 27
    +1
    For a long time it was necessary to hold a competition among young people and train personnel at the Academy of Public Administration in Moscow. I would venture to suggest that those who have money and guns will steer.
  15. Newven
    Newven 17 January 2021 19: 25
    0
    Where do the know-it-alls about the situation in the DLNR come from? Yes, you earn your bread in articles, but leave alone what you judge exclusively from the media and social networks, where there are 10 ukropropagRdonov per DLNR subscriber. Some kind of nonsense of an inflamed mind, about an immature party struggle, ruined charismatic competitors and almost underground anti-government factions. It remains only to put the stamp "Made in Ukraine" and to assure that the article arose after comprehensively verified information from the DLNR.
    Don't worry, author! We have elections, only Pushilin or Pasechnik can appoint, and the people will choose whoever they need! It’s not up to that and out of place, now in the DLNR to stick some blanks “with their heads in the political field” for raising politicians. The winner will be the one who defends our conquests before the attempts of some to return everything back!
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 17 January 2021 21: 14
      +1
      What are the gains?
  16. UVB
    UVB 17 January 2021 19: 41
    +1
    By analogy with "Heart of a Dog" I just want to say: Don't read Yegor Makhov before dinner! Already sick of his analytics!
  17. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 17 January 2021 21: 12
    +2
    Well, what did you want? They repeat in miniature the political life of the Russian Federation. And so it was intended. Who else will allow?
    And if something happens, polite people will come without identification marks and will settle things right. As in the LPR.
  18. sleeve
    sleeve 18 January 2021 05: 15
    0
    The situation is understandable. With the shock reformatting of statehood, and in a single territory, there are not very many conditions for the formation of elites. In addition to the archives, no one has heard of the numerous "heroes of administration" in the civilian era. And what to manage? And how long? Here are two questions that thin out already sparse rows. The field commanders are busy with the war. As soon as it goes into a long passive phase, then the carnival begins. There are simply no “peaceful” ones, the “warriors” are not particularly eager, since housing and communal services and social services are political “super-killers”.
  19. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 18 January 2021 18: 02
    0
    And what are the general options for existence in this schizophrenic environment?

    People (who, like, choose power) have only two ways: either to lie under anyone (Ukraine, Russia, Honduras ... it doesn't matter), or to organize an order of martyrs for a senseless struggle to the death (where death is a matter of time).
  20. Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 18 January 2021 18: 55
    +1
    Quote: Crowe
    there are no public figures who could seriously count on the support of the population. oppositionists are toothless, and officials and ministers are justly blamed for the hardships of life. Everyone has something to ask for, no one evokes an unequivocally positive reaction and sympathy.

    I am tormented by vague suspicions that somewhere I have already seen this ...
    there will be the only true candidates, whose victory will be ensured by all possible and impossible means, and a few extras.

    Something that strongly resembles ... Ah! Exactly! Our elections! Regional and municipal. And the Duma too.

    This will be the case as long as the Communist Party is headed by "social compromisers" - the most innocuous definition. They are AFRAID OF A CHANGE OF COURSE