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The Greek press said about Moscow's "concern over the Turkish president's desire to obtain nuclear weapons"

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Erdogan has never hidden his desire to include Turkey in the elite club of nuclear powers. The latest information on his intention to obtain nuclear weapons with the help of Pakistan weapon did not go unnoticed in many countries, including Russia.


Writes about this Greek edition "Pentapostagma". The Greek press announced "Moscow's concern over Turkey's nuclear ambitions - President Erdogan's desire to acquire nuclear weapons."

Two years ago, the Turkish president said that the attempts of the nuclear powers to prevent Ankara from receiving atomic weapons are unacceptable. Actually, no one really interferes with her in the implementation of these plans. Turkey has also invested heavily in long-range missile technology over the past decade.

Such activity cannot but cause alarm, especially against the background of the fact that Turkey, with the help of military and economic levers, is increasing its influence on neighboring states and on the Middle East region as a whole.

Many defense experts, the Greek author argues, believe that in the end Erdogan will not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons, as in this case he will become an even greater threat to world security than North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.

The concern of Russia and other countries is caused by information that Turkish President Erdogan allegedly personally asked the Pakistani military to provide technologies for the production of nuclear weapons and received a positive response to this. In particular, this was reported by the Indian edition Zee News India. Turkey itself does not comment on these publications and claims. At the same time, official Ankara did not confirm contacts with the Pakistani Defense Ministry regarding the transfer of nuclear technologies. If such a transfer takes place, then both Turkey and Pakistan may fall under sanctions from the UN Security Council for activities that undermine the memorandum on the nonproliferation of nuclear weapons.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 13 January 2021 14: 23
    -7
    So the Ukrii can help the Sultan, there are specialists in this area! And, most interestingly, the Persians are attacked for their desire to enrich uranium up to 20 percent, and with regard to Turkey, everyone who is dissatisfied with Iran has taken in their mouths, that is, they have taken at least water, and are silent. ...
    1. Voltsky
      Voltsky 13 January 2021 14: 30
      +5
      all the experts that were there, depending on age, ambition and knowledge of foreign languages, were absorbed, who went where.
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 13 January 2021 14: 36
        -10%
        Voletsky - so, it is not difficult to find them if desired, but to promise them good money, so they themselves will come running in crowds to the Sultan's palace. ...
        1. Voltsky
          Voltsky 13 January 2021 14: 51
          +11
          Quote: Thrifty
          Voletsky - so, it is not difficult to find them if desired, but to promise them good money, so they themselves will come running in crowds to the Sultan's palace. ...

          if you wish, you can have a kitten, and everything else requires many years of work
      2. Anatoly 288
        Anatoly 288 13 January 2021 14: 44
        +18
        The Greek press expressed Moscow's concern .... you don't have to read further, Sertaki sounds
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 13 January 2021 15: 09
          +4
          A similar opinion hi
        2. lis-ik
          lis-ik 13 January 2021 17: 35
          -4
          Quote: Anatoly 288
          The Greek press expressed Moscow's concern .... you don't have to read further, Sertaki sounds

          Unfortunately, Moscow has only one position - concern, and there is not enough steam for the rest.
          1. Cetron
            Cetron 13 January 2021 22: 20
            0
            After the armed capture of the Russian merchant by the Greeks, what concern? At least a Greek frigate had to be sent to the bottom, maximum a blow with "clubs" at naval bases!
    2. credo
      credo 13 January 2021 14: 37
      +4
      Quote: Thrifty
      So the Ukrii can help the Sultan, there are specialists in this area! And, most interestingly, the Persians are attacked for their desire to enrich uranium up to 20 percent, and with regard to Turkey, everyone who is dissatisfied with Iran has taken in their mouths, that is, they have taken at least water, and are silent. ...

      You are not right.
      First, you read that the Greeks write about "Moscow's concerns" without disclosing their sources of information in Moscow, which means at least the Greeks are no longer silent, even though their weak voice is barely audible.
      Secondly, the Indian newspaper seems to have become the primary source for the Greeks, and therefore the Indians are leaking such "news" not casually and with the expectation of some consequences.
      Well, and thirdly, since three people learned this "news", it means that the rest will also recognize it and will further decide what can be done in this case, if this information is confirmed.
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 13 January 2021 14: 48
        -1
        The credo is news without confirmation, even indirect, rumor or gossip. But, in relation to the Sultan about his desire to have nuclear weapons available, it was the information that had been for a long time! But, the entire "civilized world" is deaf, and in relation to the Persians, the story is reversed - like a pack of mad dogs barking continuously at the Persians, without touching Erdogash. It means that it is profitable for someone to create, buy, find, lease, "Allah sent", but received a nuclear weapon! As long as you are not being scolded out loud, you can do whatever you want, and then do the same, but with caution. ..this is actually an instruction from the West to Erdogad on the issue of nuclear weapons from the Turks. ..
      2. dinos
        dinos 13 January 2021 21: 45
        0
        “According to Kerem Jongar’s report citing Euronews, the Indian media asserts that Turkey intends to receive nuclear weapons and nuclear warhead technology from Pakistan. Pakistani scientists are already working in this direction. Particular attention was drawn to the fact that on December 22-23 Ankara hosted 15- It was noted that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan relies on Pakistani nuclear and missile technologies to help achieve this goal. geopolitical goals. "


        Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3158984.html
        Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM.

        Indeed, the Indian media is the primary source. Incl. the site pentaposnagma.gr (and this is just a site with a defense theme and by no means a publication) reprinted the news.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 13 January 2021 14: 38
      -1
      Quote: Thrifty
      all those dissatisfied with Iran took in their mouths, that is, they took at least water, and are silent.

      On your minus I see that it is. Well, I'm following you.
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 13 January 2021 15: 38
        +3
        There is no need to say anything about the article. Turkey will not receive anything, and the first who will prevent it will be its closest allies, the United States and Britain, as well as Israel. They will stab Erdogan without a knife, since nuclear weapons are the path to independence. He wants, then he wants, but who will give! (from) hi
        1. bessmertniy
          bessmertniy 13 January 2021 16: 05
          0
          Will strongly want - the West will find someone to replace Erdogan with a more obedient "boy". lol
  2. Threaded screw
    Threaded screw 13 January 2021 14: 24
    +2
    it will become an even greater threat to global security
    This will primarily be the problem of Israel, while it is fixated on Iran, it will be Turkey that will become its first threat.
    1. Voltsky
      Voltsky 13 January 2021 14: 32
      +3
      Well, after the phrase about the original Turkish Jerusal, I think they thought about it ...
      1. bessmertniy
        bessmertniy 13 January 2021 16: 03
        0
        Israel will have to bomb not only Iranian nuclear facilities, but Turkish ones. what
        1. Voltsky
          Voltsky 13 January 2021 16: 08
          +1
          Turkey, unlike Iran, has modern weapons, and, unlike Iran, Turkey will reach Israel; and the Army of the Turks, no matter what they say, has the experience and capabilities to solve local problems.
          So Israel will think twice before picking the boat on the Turks; Turks Jews can break a shuffle, and most likely will break if necessary.
          1. bessmertniy
            bessmertniy 13 January 2021 16: 12
            0
            It was also my grandmother who said in two - who the West will help whom to bomb. what Iran today is also not what it was 10 years ago, it also has the ability to hurt Israel.
            1. Voltsky
              Voltsky 13 January 2021 16: 18
              -1
              well dear, let's start with the fact that we are discussing a hypothetical nightmare.
              Quote: bessmertniy
              Iran today is also not what it was 10 years ago

              I generally believe in humanity, in the fact that we are developing and not degrading.
              Quote: bessmertniy
              he also has the ability to hurt Israel.

              I would have done it long ago; so far nothing but petty terror through a proxy, I have not heard from Iran.
      2. Alex777
        Alex777 13 January 2021 16: 54
        +2
        Well, after the phrase about the original Turkish Jerusal, I think they thought about it ...

        Kedmi bluntly stated that Erdogan, in a tough fight with Iran, took first place in the list of Israel's enemies.
        As for who will reach whom - Iran is far from Israel. Only F-15s can be bombed. And the Turks will catch the F-35. And not the fact that they will get caught. The S-400 has not yet been deployed. And the system is complex. Skills are needed.
        By the way, I would venture to suggest that the Turks were left without the F-35, not least with the help of Israel. hi
  3. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 13 January 2021 14: 27
    +3
    These nuclear weapons are worse than al Qaeda.
  4. Wolf
    Wolf 13 January 2021 14: 29
    -1
    If the Sultan gets nuclear weapons, he gets his US odds through Israel. Pakistan and his nuclear weapons technology, so funny. wink
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 13 January 2021 14: 41
      0
      Quote: Wolf
      If the Sultan receives nuclear weapons, he will receive it from the United States through Israel

      I wonder who will be the first on the list when Turkey receives nuclear weapons.
      1. Wolf
        Wolf 13 January 2021 14: 50
        +1
        I don't know what you wanted to say, but Israel and Turuiya are allies! wink
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 13 January 2021 15: 07
          0
          Quote: Wolf
          I don't know what you wanted to say, but Israel and Turuiya are allies!

          I wrote more than once, "there are no allies, there are temporary fellow travelers."
          But Turkey has its own list (he did not show it to me).
      2. Cetron
        Cetron 13 January 2021 22: 26
        0
        Greece! An implacable enemy for a hundred years.
    2. Voltsky
      Voltsky 13 January 2021 14: 55
      +4
      Yao for Turkey is a specific headache for all its neighbors; including for the SGA ... the Seljuks are already independent on almost all issues, and with a nuclear club they will begin to squeeze out Europeans and Americans from the east with the support of the Russian Federation, then they will squeeze out the Russian Federation with the support of the SGA and the company ...
    3. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 13 January 2021 19: 07
      -1
      The FSA needs a loyal dog so that, on command to the Russian Federation, it barks and the church looks like a mad dog that rushes at everyone, but Israel may not smell of money.
  5. parkello
    parkello 13 January 2021 14: 34
    0
    Well, I also have news. The Turks have long dreamed of nuclear weapons. But it will not help them. Russians are better off staying away from Erdogan, he will drag Russia into another cesspool. Money is good, but not always.
  6. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 13 January 2021 14: 36
    -3
    Almost nothing is written about Turkey's space program. Last year, they launched a rocket into space, this year they have already launched a domestic satellite on a Falcon 9 rocket, they plan to launch their satellite on their rocket until 2023. Replacing a satellite with a nuclear warhead is just a matter of time.
    Mock-up of the Turkish Mergen-V launch vehicle and the Hezafren Space launch pad. Does the lifting mechanism look like nothing?
    1. Voltsky
      Voltsky 13 January 2021 14: 58
      +2
      Quote: OgnennyiKotik
      Does the lifting mechanism look like nothing?

      Yes, it looks like a standard rocket lift, but what do you see?
    2. nobody75
      nobody75 13 January 2021 15: 02
      +5
      they plan to launch their satellite on their rocket until 2023. Replacing a satellite with a nuclear warhead is just a matter of time.

      Case for small:
      1 Create an entire industry to maintain a nuclear arsenal
      2 To develop the launch statistics acceptable for ICBMs
      3 To develop ICBMs on the basis of the LV
      Sincerely
      1. Voltsky
        Voltsky 13 January 2021 15: 05
        0
        Quote: nobody75
        1 Create an entire industry to maintain a nuclear arsenal
        2 To develop the launch statistics acceptable for ICBMs
        3 To develop ICBMs on the basis of the LV
        Sincerely


        all the interests of turkey - North Africa, the Middle East ... they do not need the BIS, all potential enemies are under their noses
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 13 January 2021 15: 17
          +2
          Above they wrote about the satellite ... A medium-range rocket is simpler and cheaper. The case is small - YABCh
          Sincerely
  7. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 13 January 2021 14: 37
    0
    Erdogan never concealed his desire to include Turkey in the elite club of nuclear powers.

    And inherent insolence, and a sense of impunity, he will receive it.
    There were 5 nuclear powers of the "club" in the world, and now there are already 4 more countries, but "without a club", and 7 more countries want to become, and the 8th sultan is bustling about. If the number becomes 17, then it will be impossible to avoid nuclear war. And this is where everything goes, and there is no particular protest, only “concern”. Something like this happened with the coming to power of the "guy from Braunau".
    1. Wolf
      Wolf 13 January 2021 15: 03
      +1
      Today, making a nuclear bomb is not a big problem for sufficiently developed parties. There are still problems with the delivery of nuclear weapons to the place where you want to hit. To prohibit nuclear weapons when someone has, and someone does not, is impossible. The nuclear monopoly is over, time has passed it. The problem here is with wars, and the weapon with which is secondary. As long as the world is pravytsya with MONEY AND PROFIT, nuclear war cannot be avoided, and if only 2 powers had nuclear weapons. 1 Clinton or Biden is enough and the world will easily get to a nuclear war! wink
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 13 January 2021 15: 19
        +2
        There is no big problem to make a nuclear bomb today

        I remember that Tom Clancy had an affair on this subject ...
        Has the YouTube video already appeared? How to collect a nuclear charge in a garage!
        Sincerely
        1. Voltsky
          Voltsky 13 January 2021 15: 31
          +1
          there is a Gavrik that he made a reactor in his garage, and there are a lot of countries capable of acquiring nuclear weapons in a very short time.
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 13 January 2021 15: 41
            +1
            They will be able to make a certain device. With weapons, in the modern sense, there will be big problems!
            Sincerely
            1. Voltsky
              Voltsky 13 January 2021 15: 47
              -1
              there will be no problems with creation, Germany, Korea and Japan, if desired, will easily do this; like a number of other countries.
              1. nobody75
                nobody75 13 January 2021 15: 55
                +2
                Germany refuses from nuclear power plants ... And there have never been industrial reactors for producing plutonium ... South Korea - if it could, would have done it long ago. Poor Japan is not even able to make a nuclear submarine ... One continuous Fukushima ...
                Sincerely
                1. Voltsky
                  Voltsky 13 January 2021 16: 02
                  -1
                  are there any developments ?! there is
                  dual-use technology is there ?! there is
                  is there a highly developed scientific base ?! there is

                  And then we run into desire;

                  The capabilities of the modern scientific base in the countries I listed are head and shoulders above the capabilities of the USSR in the first half of the 20th century. And then add 2 + 2.
                  1. nobody75
                    nobody75 13 January 2021 16: 47
                    +1
                    The capabilities of the modern scientific base in the countries I have listed are head and shoulders above the capabilities of the USSR in the first half of the 20th century.

                    Are you talking about Rutherford's beloved pupil P L Kapitsa?
                    Sincerely
                    1. Voltsky
                      Voltsky 13 January 2021 16: 53
                      -1
                      not :)

                      I'm talking about the fact that more than half a century has passed;
                      1. nobody75
                        nobody75 13 January 2021 16: 55
                        +1
                        Forgive me, but what has fundamentally changed during these half a century, except for the principle "Do not reason - calculate"?
                        Sincerely
                      2. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 13 January 2021 17: 06
                        -1
                        I mean, what has changed ?! And you, as I understand it, do not see the difference in technological development between how your parents lived and how you live? :)

                        A number of simulations can be performed on a computer, for example, a number of technologies are already more widespread than before; let's say getting deuterium and tritium, etc. etc.
                      3. nobody75
                        nobody75 13 January 2021 17: 09
                        +1
                        More details about heavy water? What has fundamentally changed in the capture? And about a number of simulations - this, by the way, is the most complex and protected technology ...
                        Best regards
                      4. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 13 January 2021 17: 16
                        -1
                        the technology for its production is almost generally available, since you can already buy heavy water in the store :)
                        Quote: nobody75
                        And about a number of simulations - this, by the way, is the most complex and protected technology ...

                        damn, I thought she was not written on the fence ... thanks dispelled my doubts)
                        By the way, not so protected, if you remember the story with Pakistan :)

                        and those guys who are studying in England will not have to go to learn technologies; they and their institutions are not poorly developed
                      5. nobody75
                        nobody75 13 January 2021 17: 23
                        +1
                        the technology for its production is almost generally available, since you can already buy heavy water in the store :)

                        Are you talking about Borjomi? An explosive mixture of T2O and D2O? Or about Esentuki - 4? I have not heard that Pakistan conducted virtual explosions ... And there is clearly not a code for simulation written on your fence, there are no such long fences ...
                        Sincerely
                      6. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 13 January 2021 17: 31
                        -2
                        https://chemline.ru/catalog/deutero-compounds/voda-tyazhelaya-d2/

                        please buy for health, for you especially from the Russian Federation :)

                        and at that time there were computers whose performance was expressed in petaflops? :) Well, of course, I'm exaggerating, these simulations are extremely complex ...
                        But again, we must remember how Gavrik managed to make a reactor in his garage, almost killed himself and those around him, but still :)
                        And we are talking about highly developed states and not about the boy intuziast.
                      7. nobody75
                        nobody75 13 January 2021 17: 36
                        +1
                        https://chemline.ru/catalog/deutero-compounds/voda-tyazhelaya-d2

                        Regarding this link ... I hope you understand that such water is not suitable for the production of lithium deuteride? And about simulating nuclear explosions - it's all about software, not supercomputers. When the states realized this, they lifted the embargo on supplies to Russia ...
                        Sincerely
                      8. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 13 January 2021 17: 42
                        -1
                        you asked for heavy water, not borjomi - here it is;)
                        Wake up to ask for deuterium and tritium directly - I think they will contact us :)

                        What software ?! you do not confuse the soft with the cold, the problem is in the formulas for constructing the calculation algorithm - but there are institutions for this; and here I will repeat myself again for "Germans, Japanese and Koreans" with no problem.
                      9. nobody75
                        nobody75 13 January 2021 18: 53
                        +1
                        you asked for heavy water, not borjomi - here it is;)

                        In principle, such a heavy water comes from the tap ... I'm not talking about the sea - the content of isotopes there is an order of magnitude higher than in fresh water. There is zero sense from it in the production of a thermonuclear bomb.
                        What software ?! you do not confuse soft with cold, the problem is in the formulas for constructing the calculation algorithm

                        What is this if not software?
                        Sincerely
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                      11. nobody75
                        nobody75 13 January 2021 19: 13
                        +1
                        This is not a code, but some kind of trash. You have no paired brackets. The compiler will swear at least 2 times. A good rule of thumb is to indent ...
                        Sincerely
                      12. Voltsky
                        Voltsky 13 January 2021 19: 36
                        -1
                        I deleted it already, and the fact that the compiler will swear at me ... he constantly swears :)
                        I'm not a programmer, my business is an electrician :)
                  2. Voltsky
                    Voltsky 13 January 2021 19: 23
                    -1
                    there is also gold in the sea water; I mean that in 40-50 it was high-tech, right now it's gone.
                    It is the same with many technologies, including nuclear - manufacturers and companies engaged in the creation of reactors like mud compared to that time.
                    And you are like a frenzied dummy to me, trying to sniff the information that everything is very closed and no one knows except the chosen ones from Hogwarts; only the club of nuclear powers is growing inexorably. Hence the question is about your competence.

                    Yes, this is a part of the code responsible for calculations, software = finished product, just like the engine is not a machine ...
                  3. nobody75
                    nobody75 13 January 2021 19: 26
                    +1
                    It is the same with many technologies, including nuclear - manufacturers, and companies engaged in the creation of reactors as mud in comparison with that time.
                    And you are like a frenzied dummy to me, trying to sniff the information that everything is very closed and no one knows except the chosen ones from Hogwarts; only the club of nuclear powers is growing inexorably. Hence the question is about your competence.

                    And to yours - no? How long have you graduated from Hogwarts?
                    Make reactors for the Turks out of mud and sticks, buy heavy water and red mercury at Avito ...
                    Sincerely
                  4. Voltsky
                    Voltsky 13 January 2021 19: 29
                    -1
                    Quote: nobody75
                    And to yours - no? How long have you graduated from Hogwarts?
                    Make reactors for the Turks out of mud and sticks, buy heavy water and red mercury at Avito ...
                    Sincerely

                    Are you adequate at all !?

                    As if fearing such an outcome, I mentioned 2-3 times that I was talking about Germany, Japan and Korea ...

                    hmm ..., you seem to have studied somewhere, yes, except for deadsad, they taught you to read and assimilate what you read ?!

                    Turks only start to master the engine-structure
                  5. OgnennyiKotik
                    OgnennyiKotik 13 January 2021 19: 33
                    +1
                    Quote: Voletsky
                    Are you adequate at all !?

                    Right question, the answer is no. There are many of them, I prefer to ignore them.
                  6. Voltsky
                    Voltsky 13 January 2021 19: 41
                    -1
                    Quote: OgnennyiKotik
                    Right question, the answer is no. There are many of them, I prefer to ignore them.

                    it's okay to argue with someone here on the forum, while not quite understanding what we are arguing about :) this happened to me too.
                    He just thought that I think that the Turks can in Yao now, there are no Turks so far sucky-sucky :) but a number of other countries can do something
                  7. nobody75
                    nobody75 13 January 2021 20: 23
                    0
                    sucky-sucky :)

                    Is it from Nuclear Physics?
                    Sincerely
                  8. Voltsky
                    Voltsky 13 January 2021 20: 34
                    0
                    no it is from southeast asia when exchanging currency for services
              2. nobody75
                nobody75 13 January 2021 20: 22
                0
                Yes, yes - I remember how you ignored me in topics about Karabakh ...
                Sincerely
              3. Voltsky
                Voltsky 13 January 2021 20: 28
                0
                about Karabakh? maybe ... obviously, it hurt you, just remember: / I express my opinion, and I do not pretend to be the ultimate truth, but I just defend my opinion :)
          2. nobody75
            nobody75 13 January 2021 20: 21
            0
            Are you adequate at all !?

            Wow how your reactor is boiling! He's probably subcritical!
            Assimilate what you read in Hogwrads' Dead Garden, Wizard - Electrician!
            Sincerely
          3. Voltsky
            Voltsky 13 January 2021 20: 30
            0
            no, it is not boiling, I was just surprised that they talked about different things for so long ...
            and no, I'm not an electrician :)
  8. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 13 January 2021 17: 32
    0
    Turkey and England are allies, military and economic. Britain is behind virtually all of Erdogan's actions. In terms of training, many of Turkey's military, technical, economic elite studied in Britain. For example, the Turkish Defense Minister studied at Queen's University Belfast.
    The fact that nuclear weapons can be created by more than a dozen countries in a short time is absolutely certain.
  9. Voltsky
    Voltsky 13 January 2021 17: 36
    +2
    Don't worry if the Arabs say that if something happens, just buy TNW from the packs; then I think the Turks are likely to follow this path. Whether Pakistan sells is another matter.

    Because no matter what I say about the "simplicity" of this technology in our time - these are years of development, scientific activity and the construction of infrastructure
  10. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 13 January 2021 17: 42
    0
    Well, something like 5-10 years for the country? For a person, this is a moment.
    Many countries are secretly developing, many have access to technology. Which significantly reduces this period.
    The fact that Turkey will have nuclear weapons by the end of the decade, I'm pretty sure. Medium-range ballistic missiles will be ready by mid-decade.
  11. Voltsky
    Voltsky 13 January 2021 18: 01
    +2
    the main thing is that they would not have enough money for this :) And so yes, I will not be particularly surprised if by 2030-2040 several new countries with a nuclear club appear on our earth; everything goes to this

    and in general it is necessary to crush the Turks as well as the Persians; otherwise you won't have problems with these passengers
  12. Artavazdych
    Artavazdych 13 January 2021 18: 15
    -3
    What nonsense? What missiles, what kind of nuclear weapons? The Turks go out of their way to get the Pakistanis to give them nuclear weapons, that's another matter.
    And about technology ... funny. They do not have an appropriate academic environment, let alone technology.
    A group of Turks studied with us at MEPhI. But their training program is significantly simplified. The teachers said that the lack of pre-university training affected. And this was the elite by Turkish standards.
  13. Voltsky
    Voltsky 13 January 2021 19: 26
    +1
    Quote: Artavazdych
    What nonsense? What missiles, what kind of nuclear weapons? The Turks go out of their way to get the Pakistanis to give them nuclear weapons, that's another matter.

    no no, they can produce rockets - no need to slander :)
    YAO - yes, they hardly have the necessary infrastructure or specialized universities
  14. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik 13 January 2021 19: 46
    0
    Quote: Voletsky
    YAO - yes, they hardly have the necessary infrastructure or specialized universities

    So Russia is already helping in this, building a nuclear power plant, teaching local engineers, including at MEPhI. Technologies are being pulled from Ukraine, from Pakistan. They study at universities in the USA, Britain, Germany. Naturally, without help, they will take a very long time to reach.
    The tactics are exactly the same as those of the USSR, China, Japan, Korea. Collecting technologies around the world, teaching your students in leading universities in the world, first copying technology, then finalizing, then creating your own.
    Turkey has not done anything new yet, only copying someone else's technology.
  15. nobody75
    nobody75 13 January 2021 18: 54
    +1
    Do not worry if the Arabs say that if something happens, just buy TNW from the packs

    How do you imagine buying and selling? Have you bought it and put it in the warehouse? Plutonium decays on its own ...
    Sincerely
  • The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 15 January 2021 12: 17
    0
    Quote: nobody75
    South Korea, if it could, would have done it long ago. Japan is poor, even a nuclear submarine is not able to ...


    You are talking nonsense again.
  • cniza
    cniza 13 January 2021 14: 41
    +5
    Many defense experts, the Greek author argues, believe that in the end Erdogan will not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons, as in this case he will become an even greater threat to world security than North Korean leader Kim Jong-un.


    Eun does not threaten anyone, but Erdogan with his ambitions ...
  • svp67
    svp67 13 January 2021 14: 46
    +3
    The Greek press said about Moscow's "concern over the Turkish president's desire to obtain nuclear weapons"
    Why is Greece suddenly talking about Russia's concerns?
    1. bad
      bad 13 January 2021 14: 52
      +13
      Quote: svp67
      Why is Greece suddenly talking about Russia's concerns?

      Greece hopes that Russia will include all its influence on preventing such a development of events (Turkey's receipt of nuclear weapons)
      1. svp67
        svp67 13 January 2021 15: 15
        +1
        Quote: malo
        Greece hopes that

        No, guys ... since you are with America, then hope for it ...
  • hydroy
    hydroy 13 January 2021 14: 58
    0
    A fanatic can be given a nuclear bomb, of course concern !!!!
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 13 January 2021 15: 06
    0
    Pakistan is unlikely to be interested in transferring nuclear technology to Turkey.
    1. Malyuta
      Malyuta 13 January 2021 15: 42
      +22
      Quote: Sergej1972
      Pakistan is unlikely to be interested in transferring nuclear technology to Turkey.

      I am very sorry, but do you remember how the vigorous bomb hit Pakistan?
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 13 January 2021 17: 38
        +1
        There are different versions. The Chinese seem to have helped.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 13 January 2021 15: 14
    +2
    "Concern"?
    This is very softly said!
    Moscow bites its elbows.
    Before her eyes, Iran, for which Russia has been drowning all the years at all levels, they say, "peaceful atom", "peaceful atom", now, throughout Ivanovskaya, enriches uranium up to 20% tons. And now, here is Turkey, to which Moscow has just sold the most modern air defense installations, is climbing there.
    Russia's two main political rivals in the Middle East and North Caucasus, they are also its main economic competitors on a global scale, with all their might, quite openly striving for nuclear weapons!
    What's not clear?
    The Sultan with delusions of grandeur is added to the reckless Ayaollam.
    Didn't Israel want to listen at the time? And he was yelling at the top of his voice!
    Now, all that remains is to "express concern."
    As the saying goes: "It's too late to drink" Barzhomi "- the kidneys fell off." hi
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 13 January 2021 15: 21
      +3
      If the Iranian missile and nuclear program can be physically destroyed, then the Turkish one is gone. This country is too integrated into the Western world, real sanctions are simply impossible against it.
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 13 January 2021 15: 26
        +3
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        If the Iranian missile and nuclear program can be physically destroyed, then the Turkish one is gone. This country is too integrated into the Western world, real sanctions are simply impossible against it.

        Right.
        Therefore, they will still try to communicate with him, convince, persuade, flirt, please, promise all sorts of profits and preferences. We'll shake - we'll see ... hi
    2. nobody75
      nobody75 13 January 2021 15: 23
      -2
      Before her eyes, Iran, for which Russia has been drowning for years at all levels, they say "peaceful atom", "peaceful atom", now, throughout Ivanovskaya, enriches uranium up to 20% with tons

      Have you personally seen these tons? I've seen a video where one of the "reckless ayatollahs" majestically waved his hand. Like, get rich ...
      Sincerely
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 13 January 2021 15: 33
        +1
        Quote: nobody75
        Have you personally seen these tons?

        You see, Ilya, I haven't seen viruses in my eyes, and atoms and molecules. Australia, too, have not seen, but I believe that it exists. However, I have no reason not to trust the official reports of states (Iran) and international organizations (IAEA).
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 13 January 2021 15: 38
          0
          You see, Ilya, I have not seen viruses in my eyes, and atoms and molecules

          Don't have an electron microscope at home? They brought Israel to the handle! Do you want to change the government?
          Sincerely
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 13 January 2021 15: 39
            0
            Quote: nobody75
            You see, Ilya, I have not seen viruses in my eyes, and atoms and molecules

            Don't have an electron microscope at home? They brought Israel to the handle! Do you want to change the government?
            Sincerely

            There is no electron microscope. The government will change in March. Have a nice one you too. hi
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 13 January 2021 15: 47
              0
              I remember at the beginning of the XNUMXs, graphic stations were supplied to Zelenograd, which allowed switching from a single atom to a "piece" of a spiral with a slight movement of the mouse wheel ... So all interested persons have already seen enough of molecules ...
              Sincerely
        2. nobody75
          nobody75 13 January 2021 15: 50
          -2
          And about Australia ... are you sure it still exists? China is serious about pushing it off the edge of the disc, which is supported by three elephants and a turtle's back.
          I remember Terry Pratchet called it "Forgotten Continent" ...
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 13 January 2021 16: 00
            +2
            Quote: nobody75
            I remember at the beginning of the XNUMXs, graphic stations were supplied to Zelenograd, which allowed switching from a single atom to a "piece" of a spiral with a slight movement of the mouse wheel ... So all interested persons have already seen enough of molecules ...
            Sincerely

            Quote: nobody75
            And about Australia ... are you sure it still exists? China is serious about pushing it off the edge of the disc, which is supported by three elephants and a turtle's back.
            I remember Terry Pratchet called it "Forgotten Continent" ...

            Ilya, but this is all just a flood, in other words - empty chatter. If you have something on the topic - you are welcome, if not, excuse me, it's just a pity for the time. hi
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 13 January 2021 16: 14
              -1
              With the advent of modern video cards, neural networks and the development of Monte Carlo methods so unloved in VO, the chemical properties of atoms and molecules no longer need direct observation. It is enough to solve the Schrödinger equation with the corresponding boundary conditions for stationary cases ...
              https://arxiv.org/abs/1909.08423
              So what's the topic? If you personally haven’t seen tons of enriched uranium, can you find them in the halls of your mind, like German chemists, the link to whose article I gave?
              Sincerely
    3. Dmitry V.
      Dmitry V. 13 January 2021 15: 51
      -2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      The Sultan with delusions of grandeur is added to the reckless Ayaollam.

      Let them wait for "guests" with newbie bubbles
    4. Quadro
      Quadro 13 January 2021 16: 53
      -3
      So you and the Turks were brothers for a century and their ally Azerbaijan sold drones, improved tanks to the Turks. Pot calls the kettle black.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 13 January 2021 15: 34
    0
    The Greek press said about Moscow's "concern over the Turkish president's desire to obtain nuclear weapons"

    There will be many more concerned ...
  • Russian2020
    Russian2020 13 January 2021 15: 37
    -1
    Some kind of nonsense who writes this nonsense, and Europe is not concerned, but Greece, the Fed is first of all tryndets
  • Russian2020
    Russian2020 13 January 2021 15: 39
    -2
    One wrote a fake article, and all the others suck it in comments
  • Tagan
    Tagan 13 January 2021 15: 45
    0
    Something, it seemed to me, Greece is not the first time voicing Moscow's concern. Well, Greece, like, do not care - it is purely stated. Here one Israeli speaker at VO recently stated that Greece's GDP is twice as high as that of Russia. In this context, of course, Russia needs to worry more, because she will not even have anything to stutter about. Here Greece, as an older brother, helps to voice.
    But it seems to me that Greece is not burning weakly. But it is somehow scary to pass this off as your own in front of the Sultan
  • Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 13 January 2021 15: 49
    +1
    The world is sliding towards an uncontrollable proliferation of nuclear technology.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 13 January 2021 15: 59
    -2
    Hike, since there is such silence in such a serious matter (almost like with Israel), it means that the Americans do not mind that Erdogan acquired nuclear weapons ............ The opinion of other parties is not taken into account, these are modern realities.
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 13 January 2021 16: 28
      0
      Nuclear weapons are a whole industry ... So far, no analyst has noticed the mass construction of distilleries in Turkey ...
      Sincerely
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 13 January 2021 20: 21
        0
        Quote: nobody75
        Nuclear weapons are a whole industry ... So far, no analyst has noticed the mass construction of distilleries in Turkey ...
        Sincerely

        The question is not whether to be or not to be. It is just that the reaction of the outside world is being tested now, the construction is being repeated
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 January 2021 16: 26
    +1
    Special forces from the frigate F-459 Adrias of the Greek Navy landed on the Ro-Ro class cargo ship Adler, sailing under the Russian flag in the Mediterranean Sea. The military carried out an inspection of the ship, citing the conduct of the European Union operation Irini, aimed at observing the UN arms embargo on arms supplies to Libya. This was announced on the official Twitter account of the EU mission on January 11, 2021. In the crew quarters, chtoli? Ro-Ro is a container ship with horizontal loading. Yeah, and then the Greek scoundrels at gunpoint made Russian sailors take pictures with them with the Russian flag ... ... They were looking for a vaccine for themselves and their families. ..... Probably. laughing Who drowned here for some kind of "brothers" laughing And some kind of "Orthodox" Greeks courageously opposing the evil janissaries laughing
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 13 January 2021 16: 57
      +2
      Normal Greeks ended in the 15th century. What is left is some macaws from the market, which, except for tourists, are not capable of raising watermelons and selling watermelons.
  • fif21
    fif21 13 January 2021 16: 30
    0
    I think that after the impudent actions of the special forces of Greece and Russia, the territorial claims of the Turks to the Greeks can be supported. But I don't think it's worth indulging the Sultan's appetites for nuclear weapons. It's a monkey with a grenade! wassat
  • Bez 310
    Bez 310 13 January 2021 17: 06
    0
    A surprising 71 comments under this "news".
    Where is IN going?
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 13 January 2021 18: 01
    0
    Come on, Turkey still has nuclear weapons, American truth.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 January 2021 18: 03
    0
    And who said that the Greeks are allowed to do this?

    Article 110

    Right to Inspection

    1. Except in cases where acts of interference are based on rights established by international treaties, a warship meeting on the high seas a foreign ship other than a ship enjoying full immunity in accordance with Articles 95 and 96 is not entitled to subject it to inspection if there is no reasonable suspicion that:

    a) the vessel is engaged in piracy;

    b) the vessel is engaged in the slave trade;

    c) the ship is engaged in unauthorized broadcasting and the flag State of the warship has jurisdiction in accordance with Article 109;

    d) the vessel has no nationality; or

    e) although it has a foreign flag hoisted or refuses to fly a flag, this vessel is in fact of the same nationality as the warship in question. The Greeks decided to remember the old "good times" of the Tsar. laughing I mean by sea robbery laughing Europe is over. laughing
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 13 January 2021 20: 10
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      And who said that the Greeks are allowed to do this?

      The military carried out an inspection of the ship, in terms of the EU's operation Irini, aimed at complying with the UN arms embargo on arms supplies to Libya.
      Especially for those interested in the issue:
      On April 1, 2020, the European Union announced the launch of Operation EUNAVFOR Med - Operation IRINI (from the Greek for peace) in the Central Mediterranean, to be completed by 31 March 2021.

      The declared goal of IRINI is the implementation of the embargo on the supply of weapons to the conflict zone in Libya through the use of air, sea and satellite forces and means. The mission's mandate allows for the inspection of ships on the high seas off the coast of Libya, allegedly carrying weapons or their components.

      As additional tasks of IRINI are designated:

      tracking and collecting information on illegal exports of oil, crude oil and oil products from Libya;
      training and support for the Libyan Coast Guard;
      collection of information on smuggling networks and routes of transportation of people, including through the organization of air patrols.
      The commander of Operation IRINI was appointed Rear Admiral of the Italian Navy F. Agostini, and his deputy was Rear Admiral of the French Navy J.-M. Martinet, the headquarters of the operation is in Rome.

      The launch of the mission became possible following the Berlin Conference on Libya, held on January 19, 2020. Its participants (Russia is among them! my note) among other things, pledged to comply with and implement the arms embargo on Libya established by UN Security Council resolutions 1970 (2011), 2292 (2016) and 2473 (2019).
  • fighter angel
    fighter angel 13 January 2021 18: 11
    -1
    As it was recently said about him: "He is a man, he keeps his word and does everything for the good of his country ..." The man turned out to be a greyhound, and we all know that we express our concerns and sing praises to him. It is incomprehensible and illogical.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 January 2021 18: 19
    +1
    I remember how the little Soros Pashinyan came to power in Armenia, and began (bastard) to spit in the direction of Russia. And Putin was silent. And then the grappling of Azerbaijan and Armenia began. And Putin again was silent. And only the Russian Foreign Ministry expressed concern.
    It is quite possible that Russia will again be silent about the Greeks. But they will begin their next graters with Turkey (wangyu: will begin). Most likely, the scenario will repeat itself as with Armenia .. laughing
  • iouris
    iouris 13 January 2021 18: 39
    +2
    Turkey can be considered a nuclear power. Let me remind you that the Russian Federation has never tested a nuclear weapon.
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 13 January 2021 18: 48
      0
      Let me remind you that the Russian Federation has never tested a nuclear weapon.

      Semipalatinsk, Novaya Zemlya ...
      Sincerely
      1. iouris
        iouris 13 January 2021 21: 17
        0
        Probably, these tests were carried out before the sale of spare parts to the USSR. So?
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 13 January 2021 20: 28
    0
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    And who said that the Greeks are allowed to do this?

    The military carried out an inspection of the ship, in terms of the EU's operation Irini, aimed at complying with the UN arms embargo on arms supplies to Libya.
    Especially for those interested in the issue:
    On April 1, 2020, the European Union announced the launch of Operation EUNAVFOR Med - Operation IRINI (from the Greek for peace) in the Central Mediterranean, to be completed by 31 March 2021.

    The declared goal of IRINI is the implementation of the embargo on the supply of weapons to the conflict zone in Libya through the use of air, sea and satellite forces and means. The mission's mandate allows for the inspection of ships on the high seas off the coast of Libya, allegedly carrying weapons or their components.

    As additional tasks of IRINI are designated:

    tracking and collecting information on illegal exports of oil, crude oil and oil products from Libya;
    training and support for the Libyan Coast Guard;
    collection of information on smuggling networks and routes of transportation of people, including through the organization of air patrols.
    The commander of Operation IRINI was appointed Rear Admiral of the Italian Navy F. Agostini, and his deputy was Rear Admiral of the French Navy J.-M. Martinet, the headquarters of the operation is in Rome.

    The launch of the mission became possible following the Berlin Conference on Libya, held on January 19, 2020. Its participants (Russia is among them! my note) among other things, pledged to comply with and implement the arms embargo on Libya established by UN Security Council resolutions 1970 (2011), 2292 (2016) and 2473 (2019).

    And on the basis of what document did they carry out the robbery, ugh, you search? laughing Let the UN inspect it, but in fact it is an act of sea piracy. That is, the EU replaced the UN.? belay
  • tTshka
    tTshka 15 January 2021 11: 08
    0
    The Greeks there are not tired of showing concern for the concerns of Moscow?!)))
  • Togilen
    Togilen 16 January 2021 14: 03
    0
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    1. Kuzmitsky
      19 January 2021 19: 55
      0
      More than 10 years ago it was said, but as if today. ...