Military Review

General Director of Sevmash named two new missile submarines of the Borey-A project

118
General Director of Sevmash named two new missile submarines of the Borey-A project

The general director of "Sevmash" named the names of two new submarine missile carriers of the "Borey-A" project, the construction of which will be carried out by the enterprise.


According to Mikhail Budnichenko, the contract for the construction of two new APRKSN Borei-A was signed in July 2020. The new missile submarines will be named Dmitry Donskoy and Prince Potemkin.

Sevmash will build two more nuclear submarine cruisers of the Borey-A project. The ships will receive the names "Dmitry Donskoy" and "Prince Potemkin". The contract for their construction was signed in 2020

- he added.

Budnichenko clarified that currently four submarines of the Borey-A project are under construction at Sevmash - Prince Oleg (officially founded on July 27, 2014), Generalissimus Suvorov (laid down on December 26, 2014), Emperor Alexander III "(laid down on December 18, 2015) and" Prince Pozharsky "(laid down on December 23, 2016). "Prince Oleg" has already been taken out of the boathouse and is undergoing the required tests.

As previously reported, Sevmash is to lay down two Borei-A during 2021 with their transfer to the customer by 2027.

Currently, the Russian Navy has three Project 955 (Borey) nuclear-powered missile submarines of the 4th generation - the strategic missile cruisers Yuri Dolgoruky, Alexander Nevsky and Vladimir Monomakh, as well as one submarine missile carrier of the modernized project. Borey-A "-" Prince Vladimir ".
118 comments
Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must to register.

I have an account? Sign in

  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 13 January 2021 12: 41
    +7
    Worthy Names! good
    1. SAG
      SAG 13 January 2021 12: 46
      0
      I agree. But why is Yaroslav the Wise ignored?
      1. Eldorado
        Eldorado 13 January 2021 13: 02
        10
        There is a Project 11540 frigate "Yastreb", which is named after this prince. Serves at the DKBF. soldier
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 13 January 2021 15: 30
          33
          And I would call "Generalissimo Joseph Stalin"!
          And who did not hide, I am not to blame
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 13 January 2021 16: 27
            +6
            Nice and wonderful names! yes And even in the fact that it's just "Prince Potemkin" - there is a certain meaning. More "Boreys" good and necessary! smile
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 17: 46
            +7
            Quote: Malyuta
            And I would call "Generalissimo Joseph Stalin"!

            Yeah ... Let's wait, all the intelligentsia is dispersed in brown cowards.
            1. Malyuta
              Malyuta 13 January 2021 18: 11
              28
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Yeah ... Let's wait, all the intelligentsia is dispersed in brown cowards.

              Here we will check them for loyalty, and remember the names. And those who survive will be jealous of the dead good drinks
              And why not call the second nuclear-powered ship "Marshal Zhukov" or here we have a purely noble-bakery theme flourishing? belay
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 18: 22
                +4
                Quote: Malyuta
                And why not call the second nuclear-powered ship "Marshal Zhukov" or here we have a purely noble-bakery theme flourishing?

                Yes, solid princes. I'm surprised how Suvorov got into their company, even though he is the same prince. But I stayed away from them.
                And the best thing is to call it "Poseidon" Or whatever it is, Status-6 - "Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev".
                1. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 13 January 2021 18: 33
                  22
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  but solid princes. I'm surprised how Suvorov got into their company, even though he is the same prince. But I stayed away from them.
                  And the best thing is to call it "Poseidon" Or whatever it is, Status-6 - "Mikhail Sergeevich Gorbachev".

                  Well, it has long been known, "from rags to riches" ... but to call "Hero of the Soviet Union Sergeant Yakov Pavlov" they don't have enough wits, well then let them call Pasha-1-novels, "Sergeich's winking really makes me sick.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 18: 36
                    +3
                    Quote: Malyuta
                    Pasha-1-Romanov "

                    Pasha Mercedes - also sounds! crying
                    1. Malyuta
                      Malyuta 13 January 2021 18: 47
                      26
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      Pasha Mercedes - also sounds!

                      Well, here you can get another hero of the Russian Federation from the sleeve of the times of the North Caucasian company.
                      I am simply amazed at their modesty, for example, the hero of labor Rottenberg, well, it sounds the same! And the best and most uncompromising is the captain-commander of VVP !!!
                      He invented, designed, laid, cut off the ribbon, and he could swim.
              2. Aag
                Aag 13 January 2021 18: 56
                +1
                "Well, you give a pancake! ..."
                I have already snatched a sword from its scabbard, -mouth opened ... And they understand, such sarcasm ... Not an expert on the history of the fleet, but that names, renames
                ships with us byada, learned ... All with the old New !!!
                1. Malyuta
                  Malyuta 13 January 2021 19: 00
                  25
                  Quote: AAG
                  Well, you give a damn! ... "
                  I have already snatched a sword from its scabbard, -mouth opened ... And they understand, such sarcasm ... Not an expert on the history of the fleet, but that names, renames
                  ships with us byada, learned ... All with the old New !!!

                  Sheath checkers! We are ours! Happy Coming Again! good drinks
                  1. Aag
                    Aag 13 January 2021 19: 20
                    +1
                    It's nice to calm down a little here. drinks
              3. AAK
                AAK 14 January 2021 08: 22
                0
                Colleague, to name a ship in honor of the marshal, who treated the fleet (including the most worthy of its leaders) with the most extreme disdain, to put it worse, it is somehow not comme il faut (in a crispy bakery style) ... Especially worthy and even more or less worthy names from the Soviet admirals are all afloat ... well, not to call the admiral Oktyabrsky ...
            2. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 13 January 2021 20: 59
              +6
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Yeah ... Let's wait, all the intelligentsia is dispersed in brown cowards.

              Opensource projects, eh, they stuck mendels at you today, does not like the "white bone-blue blood" of Comrade Stalin, apparently afraid. bully
              Happy Old New! drinks
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 21: 04
                +2
                Quote: Stroporez
                Eg they stuck you mendels today

                Yeah ... with panties?
                Quote: Stroporez
                Happy Old New!

                In spite of Putin, we will live to see retirement! drinks
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 13 January 2021 21: 08
                  +5
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  In spite of Putin, we will live to see retirement!

                  Bro, what is left for us, we must survive this tragic misunderstanding. drinks
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 13 January 2021 13: 13
        0
        Quote: SAG
        why is Yaroslav the Wise ignored?

        Duc, there is a TFR under that name. yes In general, this line is where to continue. Let's say "Svyatopolk the Cursed" is not a name for "killer of continents"? laughing
        1. lucul
          lucul 13 January 2021 14: 07
          +5
          For example, "Svyatopolk the Cursed" - is not it a name for "killer of continents"?

          Too handsome for a name like that.

          Why not handsome? )))
          The beauty and pride of the Russian fleet)))
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 13 January 2021 14: 49
            10
            Quote: lucul
            Beauty and pride of the Russian fleet)

            Vitaly, a small correction. yes
            With the "forward" OVU, this is a clean 955, not upgraded. The 955A, to which all subsequent APRK SNs will belong, will have a "rush", like the "Vladimir", unless of course nothing changes ... bully
            Well, something like this:
          2. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 13 January 2021 14: 53
            +5
            Quote: lucul
            Too handsome for a name like that.

            Duc, there were no freaks in the domestic fleet initially. Each project is pleasing to the eye. yes hi
            1. Alien From
              Alien From 14 January 2021 00: 39
              +1
              Purely aesthetically, our cruisers are the most beautiful! hi
        2. Malyuta
          Malyuta 13 January 2021 18: 16
          20
          Quote: Paranoid50
          Let's say "Svyatopolk the Cursed" is not a name for "killer of continents"?

          I am very sorry, but it seems that "Prince Crazy" sounds more convincing bully
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 14 January 2021 01: 24
            +1
            Quote: Malyuta
            I am very sorry, but it seems that "Prince Crazy" sounds more convincing

            And "Lieutenant Rzhevsky"?
            Not a prince, of course, but what will heal is incomprehensible (and therefore unpredictable) ...
        3. Aag
          Aag 13 January 2021 19: 27
          +2
          Quote: Paranoid50
          Quote: SAG
          why is Yaroslav the Wise ignored?

          Duc, there is a TFR under that name. yes In general, this line is where to continue. Let's say "Svyatopolk the Cursed" is not a name for "killer of continents"? laughing

          "Pecheneg-kirdyk", "Neimanala", "Refpenssist" ... - well, they will mince ... Well, let them play pranks!
      3. antivirus
        antivirus 13 January 2021 17: 01
        +2
        I'm a bit late - we need 10 aircraft carriers, 100 VI each. and the head "MSGorbachev - the first president of the USSR". not the Premier League
        era.


        I cry along with all progressive humanity - we do not have aircraft carriers ready to ram the Nimitzs. Moremans do not see other solutions for confrontation in okiyan and they minus me because of their weakness.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 13 January 2021 18: 56
          20
          Quote: antivirus
          I cry along with all progressive humanity - we do not have aircraft carriers ready to ram the Nimitzs. Moremans do not see other solutions for confrontation in okiyan and they minus me because of their weakness.

          Not only the Moremans have succeeded, there are still more serious people who are ready to bang right now and all at once. smile We are in awe!
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 13 January 2021 19: 56
            +1
            I wrote many times - in the Ministry of Defense they think more about the fleet and apparently they choose to catch a titmouse from two birds with one stone, but not in a hole, but on a mountain.
            Any power from God .. is a direct opposition to materialism-Marxism, socialist democracy.
            They didn’t want to listen to political information in Lenin’s room - torment yourself thinking about the fleet in a dem country, “freedom is like over Paris.” Life goes on.
      4. Piramidon
        Piramidon 13 January 2021 20: 42
        0
        Quote: SAG
        I agree. But why is Yaroslav the Wise ignored?

        There are a lot of worthy personalities in our history, but there are not enough ships.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 13 January 2021 20: 50
          +2
          Quote: Piramidon
          There are a lot of worthy personalities in our history, but there are not enough ships.

          You are right, there are much more personalities than ships, unfortunately.
      5. cost 75
        cost 75 14 January 2021 07: 12
        +1
        And they forgot Svyatoslav, but the prince was fighting.
    2. Eldorado
      Eldorado 13 January 2021 12: 56
      18
      No, not worthy. Which "Prince Potemkin"? In the Russian Imperial Navy there was "Prince Potemkin-Tavrichesky", this is how the new missile carrier should be called!
      We are already building the corvette "Mercury", although Emperor Nicholas ordered that the fleet always include the ship "Memory of Mercury" in honor of the feat of the team of the brig "Mercury" in 1829!
    3. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 12: 56
      -5
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Worthy Names!

      Prince Potemkin? Wasn't there meat with maggots in the soup?
      1. svp67
        svp67 13 January 2021 13: 01
        +6
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        Prince Potemkin?

        There was "Prince Potemkin-Tavrichesky"
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 13: 02
          -3
          Quote: svp67
          There was "Prince Potemkin-Tavrichesky"

          I think they are one and the same person. wink
          1. svp67
            svp67 13 January 2021 13: 23
            +7
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            I think they are one and the same person.

            I will say more, this is one and the same HISTORICAL person, the ships are different.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 13: 32
              -4
              Quote: svp67
              this is one and the same HISTORICAL person.

              It is so. Khe-khe ... But would it be good to call that boat, given the uprising on the battleship? And not many princes? Vladimir, Oleg, Pozharsky? And why "Generalissimo Suvorov"? Suvorov also had a naval rank. Maybe "Warrant Officer Suvorov" is better?
              In, fel-pali, I gave out ... laughing
              1. Eldorado
                Eldorado 13 January 2021 13: 42
                +1
                All these names were carried by the ships of the Russian Imperial Navy. Only "Prince Oleg" was not there.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 13: 53
                  -3
                  Quote: El Dorado
                  All these names were carried by the ships of the Russian Imperial Navy. Only "Prince Oleg" was not there.

                  And "Suvorov" was?
                  1. Eldorado
                    Eldorado 13 January 2021 14: 05
                    +2
                    Was.
                    https://topwar.ru/95380-suvorov-kotoromu-ne-povezlo.html
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 14: 11
                      0
                      Quote: El Dorado
                      Was.
                      https://topwar.ru/95380-suvorov-kotoromu-ne-povezlo.html

                      Uh-huh.
                      "Prince Suvorov" was the flagship and the first to fire a shot at the Japanese ships. However, the name of the famous commander did not help him. Soon he was bombarded with shells, a fire broke out on it, after which he soon died, and after him all the other ships of this ill-fated series. Only the battleship Eagle, which surrendered to the Japanese, and the Slava, which remained in the Baltic, were saved. Of the entire crew of the battleship, which included 867 officers and lower ranks, only one fireman Simon Kobets, born in 1870, survived, who was picked up by a Japanese ship.
                  2. venik
                    venik 13 January 2021 16: 00
                    +3
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    And "Suvorov" was?

                    ==========
                    Was! Moreover, not one:
                    1. Squadron battleship "Prince Suvorov" (type "Borodino"). Commissioned in 1904. Killed in the Battle of Tsushima.


                    2. The cruiser "Alexander Suvorov" (project 68-bis, 1953 - 1991)
                  3. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 13 January 2021 21: 47
                    +5
                    Quote: Mordvin 3
                    And "Suvorov" was?

                    There was also Askold!
                2. Rakovor
                  Rakovor 13 January 2021 13: 53
                  +3
                  There was just Oleg, a Bogatyr-class cruiser.
                  1. Eldorado
                    Eldorado 13 January 2021 14: 07
                    +1
                    Right!
                    I'll run to read about the Russian Imperial Navy, how could I forget about this cruiser ?! fool
                    1. Rakovor
                      Rakovor 13 January 2021 18: 27
                      0
                      And if you dig really deep, then before the cruiser, in my opinion, there was a sail-screw frigate "Oleg".
                3. Arthur 85
                  Arthur 85 13 January 2021 14: 24
                  +2
                  The cruiser "Oleg" was ... But about the Donskoy it is not clear. It seems like there is already a ship with that name?
                  1. Eldorado
                    Eldorado 13 January 2021 15: 23
                    +1
                    There is. The last of the "Sharks" TK-208 "Dmitry Donskoy". But it was commissioned back in 1981. By the time the new Donskoy entered service, it would have been written off.
                    1. Aag
                      Aag 13 January 2021 19: 19
                      +1
                      Quote: El Dorado
                      There is. The last of the "Sharks" TK-208 "Dmitry Donskoy". But it was commissioned back in 1981. By the time the new Donskoy entered service, it would have been written off.

                      Greetings!
                      Don't you count this not ... the best practice? (Naming, renaming, reincarnation of ships, ships). Not a connoisseur of the history of the fleet, sorry, but what is available is an unhealthy trend. As I understand it, the fleet of every country their traditions. Sorry, ours, somehow do not inspire ... If not difficult, a short excursion (or a link on this topic). I think many will be interested, some will be useful.
                      Well, in general, it seems that colleagues just started their comments with sarcastic sarcasm. I apologize from all of us if they touched yours ... if you accidentally offended you. hi Explanations among thinking people are more productive than confrontation in any form.
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 13 January 2021 20: 55
                        +4
                        Quote: AAG
                        Well, in general, it seems that colleagues just started comments with sarcastic sarcasm.

                        Sarcasm and comrade Erop is our everything! bully
                      2. Aag
                        Aag 13 January 2021 21: 37
                        +1
                        Wow!
                        Officers, gentlemen! I put myself on the spot, on the occasion of the assignment of the next conditional military rank major in the military ...
                        In principle, and in life so, -gv.m-r reserve ... In the current realities, against the background of Mr. Volkovs, there is not much merit.)))
                        I value the assessment of the old men, the older generation, albeit with their own human ... characteristics, but competent specialists, similar to look (some of my former subordinates of Mr. M-ry ... are not their merit, nor my shortcomings) .. ...
                        "... but I served as a captain's star in full ..." S. Trofimov.
                        Everyone from NG! ... waiting for February 23rd ... hi drinks
                      3. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 13 January 2021 21: 40
                        +2
                        Quote: AAG
                        Officers, gentlemen! I put myself on the spot, on the occasion of the assignment of the next conditional military rank major in the military ...

                        For me it’s kaneshna ray, when COMRADES, but once you put down, then congratulations wink drinks
                        With Old NG! good drinks
                      4. Aag
                        Aag 13 January 2021 21: 55
                        +1
                        Not, but the truth. Somehow it happened, without hidden subtext, there was "Lord" ...
                        I agree that now this requires, at least, rethinking ...
                        Depending on the audience, I suggest: "compatriots", "associates", "comrades" - of course, "brothers" - as it is forgiven, "friends" - invented, "colleagues" - accepted, "men" - not tolerant)), " lads "- not solid," people "- all-embracing and not specific ... I’ve gone to life! The unreported people wander around the Country, but to whom and how to turn so that they would not be sent is a problem!
            2. venik
              venik 13 January 2021 16: 42
              +2
              Quote: Arthur 85
              The cruiser "Oleg" was ... But about the Donskoy it is not clear. It seems like there is already a ship with that name?

              =========
              There is! TK-208 "Dmitry Donskoy" - Project 941 "Akula" heavy nuclear missile submarine strategic cruiser. At the moment - with the composition of the Federation Council.

              True, its service life is already coming to an end, but it will serve a little more!
          2. albert
            albert 13 January 2021 21: 15
            0
            Quote: El Dorado
            "Prince Oleg" was not there.

            There was the cruiser Oleg.
        2. svp67
          svp67 13 January 2021 13: 56
          +2
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Maybe "Warrant Officer Suvorov" is better?

          Well, as a "midshipman" he showed himself little, but as a "generalissimo" for centuries ...
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          And not many princes?

          Well, all of ours and there are still many that are not remembered ... Gone are the days when ships were called the names of workers and peasants ...
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 13: 58
            -4
            Quote: svp67
            Gone are the days when ships were named after workers and peasants ...

            Give the imperial barber, Count Kutaisov!
            1. svp67
              svp67 13 January 2021 13: 59
              +1
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Give the imperial barber, Count Kutaisov!

              Now somehow more "restaurateurs" are in honor
        3. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 13 January 2021 15: 03
          +5
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Suvorov also had a naval rank. Maybe "Warrant Officer Suvorov" is better?

          Sir, full of fantasies! If Alexander Vasilievich wrote in a letter to F.F. Ushakov after Corfu, that "why I was not even a" midshipman "at Corfu". This does not mean at all that he had this military rank. Generalissimo - can command all the Armed Forces of the country, including the Navy. And even the governor of royal blood was obliged to obey him during the campaign ... Moreover, A.V. Suvorov was very titled for his military services to the Fatherland: - "Prince of Italy, Count Suvorov-Rymniki." Therefore, there is no need to joke about this.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 17: 40
            +1
            Quote: Boa constrictor KAA
            Sir, full of fantasies! If Alexander Vasilievich wrote in a letter to F.F. Ushakov after Corfu, that "why I was not even a" midshipman "at Corfu". This does not mean at all that he had this military rank.

            I read three books about Suvorov, one of them describes the meeting of Alexander Vasilyevich with Ushakov, where he declared about his rank of midshipman, in another, a writer of the 19th century, it is described how Suvorov passed exams for midshipman, being already a general -anchef, or already a field marshal (I don't remember exactly). This is when he built fortifications in Karelia.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 14 January 2021 20: 24
              0
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Suvorov passed for exams, for a midshipman, being already either a general-in-chief, or already a field marshal (I don't remember exactly).

              Generalissimo A.V. Suvorov was not listed as a "midshipman" in the Admiralty.
              So, according to the Admiralty, those officers were made who, for some reason (lack of special education, swimming qualification), could not be enrolled in the combatant composition of the fleet, in any of the corps or in the Naval Judicial Department. The Admiralty also included ranks who had transferred to the fleet from the army, as well as those made from the conductors. In some cases, officers of this category could be transferred to the fleet and renamed into naval ranks. Officers who graduated from special classes and had the specialties of a pilot, diver and others could have both ranks of combat personnel and in the Admiralty.

              Here's another confirmation.
              The well-known biographer of A. V. Suvorov A. Petrushevsky in the monograph “Generalissimo Prince Suvorov”, referring to A. V. Suvorov’s stay in Finland in 1791-1792, wrote that Suvorov was never a nominal boss; he tried as much as possible to become familiar with the naval specialty. He acquired some information in the Ochakovsky estuary, where the flotilla was also subordinate to him, and continued to look closely at the matter in Finland. On his first trip he took private lessons, about which he wrote to PI Turchaninov. Later, according to some reports, jokingly, he asked to test him in naval knowledge and passed the exam quite satisfactorily. Petrushevsky says nothing about awarding A. V. Suvorov the title of midshipman. This is mentioned in the article "Suvorov and the Fleet" by Professor of the Academy of the General Staff Major General N. A. Orlov: his service in the war together with the navy. He even took private lessons and then asked to test himself in maritime knowledge and passed the exam for a midshipman. What a power of mind for an old man at 62! " Comparison of the text of the two excerpts cited by us shows that when writing this part of the article, Professor N. A. Orlov used the work of A. Petrushevsky. But he threw out the word "as a joke" and added the word "midshipman."
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 13 January 2021 21: 12
    +4
    Quote: Mordvin 3
    Prince Potemkin? Wasn't there meat with maggots in the soup?

    There is also the Potemkin Stairs in Odessa. Let the opponents argue with Eisenstein.

    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 21: 22
      +1
      This is where the Pole chased his client in Deja Vu?

      \ How did everyone get laid ...
  • svp67
    svp67 13 January 2021 12: 43
    +3
    The new missile submarines will be named Dmitry Donskoy and Prince Potemkin.
    But now I do not understand, but what about the last of the "living" "Sharks"? She's kind of modernized and extended her service life.
    1. g1v2
      g1v2 13 January 2021 12: 50
      +5
      It has not been modernized. It was converted into an experimental submarine for testing weapons. And it seems like not all mines. In principle, she is no longer viewed as a full-fledged strategist. And in any case, it will be written off before the ninth Borei with the same name is built. The last Squid underwent repairs not so long ago, it looks like a couple of years, but then it will also be written off. Well, these two new ordered Boreas will be built to replace the oldest Dolphins. I think as the rest of the Dolphins age, new Boreas will be built to replace them.
      1. Eldorado
        Eldorado 13 January 2021 13: 00
        +1
        [/ quote] And it seems like not all mines [/ quote]
        We made only one launcher for the Bulava. This is a purely test submarine.
    2. Eldorado
      Eldorado 13 January 2021 12: 57
      +1
      God forbid, the new "Dmitry Donskoy" will be completed by 2027. By that time, the current "Donskoy" has already been written off.
      1. Pavel73
        Pavel73 13 January 2021 13: 06
        13
        The shark must be preserved as a museum. Americans sacredly cherish their "Iowa". Our submarine battleship deserves it too!
        1. Eldorado
          Eldorado 13 January 2021 13: 24
          +1
          Who is against it? But will there be money for this in our Fatherland?
          1. bad
            bad 13 January 2021 13: 28
            24
            Quote: El Dorado
            Who is against it? But will there be money for this in our Fatherland?

            If desired,, of course there are. They found the Yeltsin Center.
            1. Arthur 85
              Arthur 85 13 January 2021 14: 27
              0
              Yeah, and to the badly needed Olympics with the football championship too ... As soon as I remember, I shudder. It is clear that it will not work to convert the Olympics into a pair of AUGs - there is no capacity, but ... In science, in school, in medicine, in some simpler weapons, was it possible?
              1. pyagomail.ru
                pyagomail.ru 13 January 2021 15: 29
                0
                Why is that so? Both the Olympics and the football championship are holidays for the country, and everyone needs holidays. You probably bought something tasty for the New Year too? Or cereals, salt and matches - they are more needed. And, for example, the builders who built Olympic facilities or stadiums (and the allocated money went to these facilities) will not be able to make even “simpler weapons”. Everything will be fine. Happy New Year to everybody!
                1. Arthur 85
                  Arthur 85 13 January 2021 16: 33
                  +3
                  Well, except that in terms of builders, I can agree. It's good that people got salaries and jobs. It's good that cement plants and rolling mills have received orders ...
                  But I am a categorical opponent of professional sports. As well as professional actors. This ulcer must be eradicated forever. Exceptions can be made for races, bullet shooting and contact martial arts ... Initially, if I am not mistaken, the Olympics were an AMATEUR sports competition. Here I am with both hands. And I would like to see all kinds of dzyubs, kokorins and mamaevs on their own "Zaporozhets", driving up to the coal mine - to their permanent place of work.
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 17: 53
                    0
                    Quote: Arthur 85
                    Exceptions can be made for races, bullet shooting and contact martial arts ...

                    And what are these exceptions for contact martial arts? Many people remember the shaking of Muhammad Ali when he walked with a torch.
                    1. Arthur 85
                      Arthur 85 13 January 2021 19: 22
                      +1
                      I don't know who was going where with the torch, I proceed from simple things. Sport must have practical applications. Everything should have a practical application. Humanity began to forget about it. For which, of course, we will pay - already pay - the most serious price. Because the laws of nature are not mocked.
                      When the ruler is basking in a golden bath, it is bad, but not fatal. When a kick kicker has as much money as 100 doctors and 100 engineers at once ... Well, damn it, this civilization is broken. Bring a new one.
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 19: 27
                        0
                        Quote: Arthur 85
                        torch, I proceed from simple things. Sport must have practical applications. Everything should have a practical application.

                        So you do not confuse professional sports with amateur, or with physical education.
                      2. Arthur 85
                        Arthur 85 13 January 2021 19: 35
                        0
                        Once again (here, like a military site): everything that favors defense - amateur sports, races (on which new engines are run in), bullet shooting, contact types of martial arts - this is good. Everything that takes money from the army (and from society, as its base) - crazy fees of professional football players and singers by mouth - this is bad and should be stopped. Let their salary be 100 thousand per month. Enough for the eyes. If you have brains, then with such a salary within five years you can provide yourself with such a "pillow" so that you never work. Well, if evolution did not give brains, then alas ...
                      3. Arthur 85
                        Arthur 85 13 January 2021 19: 39
                        +1
                        And yes, if they want to go over the hill, then you can also give a pendel goodbye: tea, not physicists, not rocket scientists, not neurosurgeons. Let them knock down with the wolf ticket forever.
                      4. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 21: 31
                        +1
                        Quote: Arthur 85
                        And yes, if they want to go over the hill, then you can also give a pendel goodbye: tea, not physicists, not rocket scientists, not neurosurgeons. Let them knock down with the wolf ticket forever.

                        Are you crazy or what? And who should be elected to the State Duma?
                    2. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 19: 40
                      0
                      Quote: Arthur 85
                      Everything that takes money from the army (and from society, as its base) - crazy fees of professional footballers and singers by mouth - this is bad

                      So you can kick a ball for so, and sing a song.
                      Quote: Arthur 85
                      If you have brains, then with such a salary for five years you can provide yourself with such a "pillow" so that you never work

                      They have no gray matter, apparently ... Alas ...
                    3. Arthur 85
                      Arthur 85 13 January 2021 20: 04
                      0
                      So who's arguing. I am 40 years old, I have never been a professional athlete, but I think that if the party and the government instructs me to win the world championship, and gives me four years of time, 100 pieces per person per month, and the right to recruit players among conscripts (and educate them while smoking ), we will win any championship, even Mortal Kombat, albeit by crippling 100500 of these professional pretenders from Barzilia, or where they came from ...
                    4. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 20: 18
                      0
                      Quote: Arthur 85
                      if the party and the government instructs me to win the world championship, and gives me four years of time, 100 per person per month, and the right to recruit players among conscripts (and educate them over the smoking room), we will win any championship, even Mortal Kombat, albeit crippling 100500 of these professional pretenders from Barzilia,

                      You blow it, by God, you blow it anyway.
                    5. Arthur 85
                      Arthur 85 14 January 2021 06: 10
                      0
                      Well ... Once, in the 7th grade, a physical education instructor told us: in any situation, dribble the ball to the opponent's goal, and do not give a backward pass. The ball will be taken away from you, and there will be a goal ... Such an inscription should be filled on the pediment of the Central Bank: "In any incomprehensible situation (that is, simply - in any), play to raise the ruble. When you are masters of economics (never), then you will play with currency bully ...
                      I remember playing football between platoons at KMB ... In tarpaulin boots. Isn't that forbidden? I think any Ronaldo, seeing what they will beat him, capitulates before the start ... It's not artistic for you to scream like a gull, lying on the lawn, and begging for a penalty - this is a harsh Soviet tarpaulin. crying
                      By the way, what still pisses me off: they drive the ball until they take it away from them, but they have to hit the goal ... I don’t want to brag, but as a child, jumping with scissors, I beat the ball up so that it was almost hiding out of sight (I did this ten times for fun per match). And once he almost killed a kid from the next street, taking out the ball "from the gate." The leg "jumped", and the ball flew to his fifth point ... He ran for a long time across the field screaming, holding on to this very place.
                    6. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 14 January 2021 09: 05
                      0
                      Quote: Arthur 85
                      about in childhood, "scissors" in a jump, I beat the ball up so that it was almost out of sight (I did this ten times for fun per match).

                      Heh, I scored a goal while standing at the goal ..
                    7. Arthur 85
                      Arthur 85 14 January 2021 09: 54
                      0
                      Yes, I had that too ... And once they beat me. Carelessly hit the ball, and he ricocheted into the goal. repeat
                    8. Alf
                      Alf 14 January 2021 19: 10
                      +1
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      Quote: Arthur 85
                      about in childhood, "scissors" in a jump, I beat the ball up so that it was almost out of sight (I did this ten times for fun per match).

                      Heh, I scored a goal while standing at the goal ..

                      Into your own gates? Well, so as not to run far ...
                  2. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 14 January 2021 11: 02
                    +1
                    Quote: Arthur 85
                    I do not want to brag, but as a child, "scissors" in a jump, I hit the ball up so that it was almost out of sight

                    And you don't have to brag. The trees were breaking against my navel. When they started shooting at the gate, I just stood there and smirked ...
  • Alf
    Alf 13 January 2021 19: 39
    +5
    Quote: Arthur 85
    And I would like to see all kinds of dzyubs, kokorins and mamaevs on their own "Zaporozhets", approaching the coal mine - to their permanent place of work.

    1. Arthur 85
      Arthur 85 13 January 2021 19: 48
      +1
      Well, maybe not so harsh. In the end, everyone has the right to make a mistake ... But from which organ of some sort of Maradonna should receive more than a simple humble dentist in a district clinic? After all, he, a dentist, brings a hundred times more benefit than Maradona (from a mathematical point of view, an infinite number of times more, because one divided by zero gives infinity).
      1. Alf
        Alf 13 January 2021 20: 04
        +4
        Quote: Arthur 85
        But from which body some Maradonna should receive more than a simple modest dentist in a district clinic?

        That's it. The names of athletes should be associated with victories, well, or with the highest places, and not with scandals in court or with multimillion-dollar contracts without visible success.
  • pyagomail.ru
    pyagomail.ru 14 January 2021 09: 48
    0
    I completely agree about professional sports. Professional sport is a kind of show business, and it should be treated the same way. On complete self-sufficiency!
  • Alf
    Alf 13 January 2021 19: 35
    +4
    Quote: malo
    They found the Yeltsin Center.

    "That gasoline, and then children" ...
  • Rzzz
    Rzzz 14 January 2021 02: 42
    +1
    Quote: El Dorado
    But are there

    There is no money, even to make a K-3 museum. And there you need much less money.
    But on the other hand, billions are dumped on the terrible green church in the Cuban. And ungrateful people don't go there anyway.
  • Piramidon
    Piramidon 13 January 2021 21: 05
    0
    Quote: Pavel73
    The shark must be preserved as a museum

    And, most importantly, make sure that the propellers are not stolen. lol
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 13 January 2021 12: 52
    +1
    It only seems to me that something is skewed in the submarine in the fleet with new ships. And who will ensure the deployment safe? -It is clear that they can shoot back from the wall without floating anywhere, then it is generally cheaper to set up mines or TPKs alone in the port and no need to sail. And if it is necessary to sail, then surface ships of protection and rescue are needed.
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 13 January 2021 13: 03
      -1
      And if it is necessary to sail, then surface ships of protection and rescue are needed.

      Surface ships of protection and rescue? belay This is not an aircraft carrier. For submarines, the main thing is stealth, and the escort ships, as you put it, that is, the escort will stupidly allow you to keep track of the nuclear submarine.
      We need multi-purpose attack nuclear submarines of the Yasen-M class, plus the modernization of 971 projects and loaves, if possible.
      1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
        Andrei from Chelyabinsk 13 January 2021 13: 06
        11
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Surface ships of protection and rescue? This is not an aircraft carrier.

        Well, it will be very interesting to observe the withdrawal of SSBNs from their bases without minesweepers. And for PLO tasks some
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        multipurpose attack nuclear submarines of the Yasen-M class plus modernization of the 971 project

        and not nearly enough in quantity, corvettes are needed ... etc.
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 13 January 2021 13: 12
          0
          Well, it will be very interesting to observe the withdrawal of SSBNs from their bases without minesweepers. And for PLO tasks some

          From the base it is clear that without minesweepers is impossible. But while on duty, these same minesweepers do not sail the oceans after the nuclear submarine, as evgen1221 had in mind when talking about surface ships of protection and rescue.
          1. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
            Andrei from Chelyabinsk 13 January 2021 13: 32
            +3
            Quote: OrangeBigg
            But while on duty, these same minesweepers do not sail the oceans after the nuclear submarine, as evgen1221 had in mind when talking about surface ships of protection and rescue.

            In my opinion, he clearly indicated
            Quote: evgen1221
            And who will provide secure deployment?

            And the deployment seems to start from the base hi
          2. A_Lex
            A_Lex 13 January 2021 14: 22
            0
            But while on duty, these same minesweepers do not sail the oceans after the nuclear submarine, as evgen1221 meant


            He did not write that directly, so there is no point in attributing to him some kind of invented nonsense.
          3. evgen1221
            evgen1221 13 January 2021 16: 26
            +2
            Yes, no, I just meant, a safe exit from the bases until the moment you enter the depths where you can hide, otherwise, who is safe and clean from the ears of mines and torpedoes, the corridor will provide-braces? Around our bases a lot of everyone grazes in anticipation of the release of the rocket launchers and will sit tightly on the tail without clearing. So why then to weld so much metal to the TPK if the RPKSN are not allowed to leave the base? This is the essence of the imbalance
    2. A_Lex
      A_Lex 13 January 2021 14: 20
      +5
      it is clear that they can shoot back from the wall without floating anywhere


      If you seriously count on the fact that the boats will shoot off the wall, then there is no point in building them at all.
  • Constanty
    Constanty 13 January 2021 13: 09
    +2
    Good, traditional names for the Russian fleet, although in the case of the latter the full name should be "Prince Potemkin Tavrichesky"
  • Lord
    Lord 13 January 2021 14: 53
    +2
    that's why ignore the name of the founder so to speak
    Rurik
    it is not clear
  • Olkhovsky
    Olkhovsky 13 January 2021 16: 54
    +3
    Give the Aurora Nuclear Submarine Cruiser!
    1. Alf
      Alf 13 January 2021 19: 41
      +3
      Quote: Olkhovsky
      Give the Aurora Nuclear Submarine Cruiser!

      Yeah, and commander Belyshev ...
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 20: 30
        +2
        Quote: Alf
        Commander Belyshev.

        Wah! Is this the one who gave the babach from Aurora's gun?
        1. Alf
          Alf 13 January 2021 20: 36
          +2
          Quote: mordvin xnumx
          Quote: Alf
          Commander Belyshev.

          Wah! Is this the one who gave the babach from Aurora's gun?

          Exactly !
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 20: 40
            +2
            Quote: Alf
            Exactly !

            What a fine fellow. Well, right now, I'll drink to him. drinks And for the old-new year. drinks
            1. Alf
              Alf 13 January 2021 21: 04
              +3
              Quote: mordvin xnumx
              Quote: Alf
              Exactly !

              What a fine fellow. Well, right now, I'll drink to him. drinks And for the old-new year. drinks

              I support! drinks
      2. Rzzz
        Rzzz 14 January 2021 02: 58
        0
        Quote: Alf
        Yeah, and commander Belyshev

        Belyshev was not the commander of Aurora. He was the chairman of the Ship Committee, well, like a commissioner or something.

        The commander was N.A. Erickson, about whom we are modestly silent. Either because of a non-proletarian surname, or because he emigrated in 1922.
        1. Alf
          Alf 14 January 2021 19: 06
          0
          Quote: rzzz
          Belyshev was not the commander of Aurora. He was the chairman of the Ship Committee, well, like a commissioner or something.

          True, Erickson was a Swede by nationality, but Belyshev still gave the command to Babakh.
  • Tests
    Tests 13 January 2021 22: 23
    +1
    AAG (Alexander Astapenko), Your Excellency, "... the guard major is unarmed at night"? New Year has come for you? Winter has come in Severodvinsk, the thermometer is now -30, a colleague lives in the country, directly from the city less than 10 km, this morning he had -38, fortunately, the iron horse starts at -20 every hour, drove to work without problems.
  • Tests
    Tests 13 January 2021 22: 39
    0
    Mordvin 3 (Vladimir), dear, you are 202% right about Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov. Finns use its channels to attract tourists in the 21st century, well done, what can I say ...
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 14 January 2021 20: 59
    0
    "Dm. Donskoy" like the nuclear submarine 941 (TK 208) of the project carries?

    Those. will it be written off for sure?
  • Pavel57
    Pavel57 14 January 2021 21: 03
    0
    "Prince Potemkin".
    but it would be worth "Prince Potemkin Tavrichesky." Although the name is historically ambiguous. And even more so again princes and counts.
  • Alexey B.
    Alexey B. 16 January 2021 14: 51
    0
    If the new ship is called "Dmitry Donskoy", then the current TK-208 will be removed from the fleet and left on pins and needles. Very sorry! They would be put on an eternal stop in memory of the former might of the USSR.