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In the Chinese media: Russia lagged behind in the field of drones, and now it is rapidly catching up

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In the Chinese media: Russia lagged behind in the field of drones, and now it is rapidly catching up

Although the Russian Federation is a leader in the production of various types of weapons, for example, hypersonic weapons, in the drone aviation she lagged behind until recently. This situation is incompatible with its status as a major military power.


This opinion was expressed in the Chinese media WeChat.

The user of the service believes that in this area our country was inferior not only to the world's leading arms manufacturers, but also to some third world countries. But if earlier Russia lagged significantly behind in the field of drone production, now it is rapidly catching up.

The Chinese author is confident that it will not take Russia long to improve the situation, even despite the less developed electronic technologies compared to the PRC or the United States.

This is evidenced, in particular, by the adoption in October last year of the first batch of Orion reconnaissance drones into service with the Russian army. True, when Russia had just started equipping its Armed Forces with such equipment, the United States and China had already begun to upgrade it.

It is worth paying attention to the successes of Russian engineers in the field of drone development. They managed to start testing the Okhotnik-B strike drone as soon as possible, which is capable of effectively acting as a wingman in tandem with a fifth-generation Su-57 fighter. Similar developments are now being carried out in the United States. This indicates a high level of the defense industry of the Russian Federation, which is able to overcome the lag in the field of unmanned aircraft in the shortest possible time.
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  1. MoJloT
    MoJloT 13 January 2021 09: 29
    +2
    Russia lagged significantly behind in the production of drones, but now it is rapidly catching up.
    It's one thing to catch up, the second is to saturate the troops with them and train the composition.
    1. bad
      bad 13 January 2021 09: 36
      +31
      Quote: MoJloT
      It's one thing to catch up, the second is to saturate the troops with them and train the composition

      Technologies are being honed, understanding and means are there. In any case, development is underway
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 13 January 2021 09: 58
        +8
        "The Russians take a long time to harness, but they drive fast!" yes
        1. Labrador
          Labrador 13 January 2021 10: 31
          +11
          If it had not been drunk and fucked up, then they would have harnessed faster.
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 13 January 2021 11: 09
            -1
            This opinion was expressed in the Chinese media. WeChat.
            The service user believes that (...)

            It seems to me that this news is written by notable jokers.

            Or is it a social experiment on the topic "how ridiculous news stories can be used so that readers do not start to notice the catch."
            1. syndicalist
              syndicalist 13 January 2021 13: 08
              +3
              It is hard not to notice a massive Chinese information attack of a certain direction. It remains only to find out the purpose.
      2. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 13 January 2021 10: 20
        0
        Quote: malo
        Technologies are being honed, understanding and means are there. In any case, development is underway
        There were no problems with gliders and engines, electronics and programming are quite at the level, almost smile , indeed, only the understanding of the leadership was lacking
        1. D16
          D16 13 January 2021 22: 05
          0
          and engines of problems and there were not much

          Just with the engines, the problems were above the roof. At least for Orion. For a very long time, the 100-strong Rotax was copied with its boost to 110 hp.
    2. pmkemcity
      pmkemcity 13 January 2021 09: 58
      +12
      Quote: MoJloT
      It's one thing to catch up, the second is to saturate the troops with them and train the composition.

      Previously, our workshop was chronically lagging behind, now it is chronically overtaking ... (M. Zhvanetsky)
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 13 January 2021 10: 02
        +2
        Quote: pmkemcity
        Previously, our workshop was chronically lagging behind, now it is chronically overtaking ... (M. Zhvanetsky)

        Colleague, you made me a morning! This is the quote of the day! good drinks
        1. pmkemcity
          pmkemcity 13 January 2021 10: 07
          +3
          Quote: Stroporez
          Colleague, you made me a morning! This is the quote of the day!

          Then I propose to go to the official part, please, to the table. Happy New Year! drinks
          1. Aerodrome
            Aerodrome 13 January 2021 10: 18
            +5
            Quote: pmkemcity
            Then I propose to go to the official part, please, to the table. Happy New Year!

            my second ... recourse
            1. pmkemcity
              pmkemcity 13 January 2021 10: 54
              +3
              Quote: Aerodrome
              my second ...

              What a schedule! I’ll quit in fig!
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      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 13 January 2021 10: 12
        0
        Who else would have made engines for it by 2025? Therefore, even now, for me, for example, it remains very mysterious.
        1. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 13 January 2021 10: 15
          +4
          So Product-RF (engine for PAK DA) is already assembled in metal. At the end of December this news was posted on the site. They will start testing soon.
          1. NDR-791
            NDR-791 13 January 2021 10: 20
            0
            Thank you, I missed something somewhere ...
  3. Cron
    Cron 13 January 2021 09: 38
    +6
    In our history, we have reduced and even surpassed such a lag. We can deal with the flying cornmen somehow
  4. Ros 56
    Ros 56 13 January 2021 09: 54
    +5
    Well, whoever would bellow, the Chinese lagged behind in all positions in the world, and only thanks to the Russians began to produce their military equipment.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 13 January 2021 11: 08
      -9
      Quote: Ros 56
      The Chinese lagged behind in all positions in the world and only thanks to the Russians began to produce their military equipment.

      interesting look wassat did we finance them?
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 13 January 2021 19: 56
        -4
        Aha patriots will pass! and justify? and who ever forbade technical intelligence? And the fact that you built factories and factories there, this did not stimulate, including military production? and we that did not use the achievements of America, Germany, Italy? Avtovaz is actually an Italian Fiat. If the Chinese copied, it was not thanks to our genius, but thanks to our Perestroika and carelessness.
    2. Grits
      Grits 17 January 2021 07: 10
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      Well, whoever would bellow, the Chinese lagged behind in all positions in the world, and only thanks to the Russians began to produce their military equipment.

      It's like that. But their Deng Xiaoping turned out to be much wiser than our Gorbachev. Here is the result.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 13 January 2021 10: 02
    0
    In the Chinese media: Russia lagged behind in the field of drones, and now it is rapidly catching up

    We must do ... we will do.
    To catch up and overtake, it is not an easy matter, here it is more for the development of those industries in which the "hole" was formed, in due time, it is necessary to direct not small resources, efforts and have really responsible personnel there!
  6. evgen1221
    evgen1221 13 January 2021 10: 08
    -9
    The first single and experimental is so swift and abrupt. Well, yes, probably. Another essay when a journalist has nothing to write but should.
  7. progserega
    progserega 13 January 2021 10: 57
    +3
    This opinion was expressed in the Chinese media WeChat.

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/WeChat
    Those. Someone said something in a Chinese chat - and this is NEWS ?!
    1. vargo
      vargo 13 January 2021 13: 32
      0
      I also wanted to write. Are we going to sort out any screamers in chats already?) Maybe we will conduct polls in the chat roulette? There are probably many "experts"
  8. dzvero
    dzvero 13 January 2021 11: 26
    +4
    To be honest, I do not understand what the unmanned excitement is, and also about the lag. At one time, large reconnaissance UAVs were in service in both the USSR and the USA. The development of air defense "nullified" them. Then work on heavy UAVs was carried out only in the United States. Their main "tricks" in satellite control and elements of "almost artificial intelligence".
    In the last decade, small and medium-sized UAVs with reconnaissance and / or strike functions have been developed. In general, due to the development of electronics, computers and materials. Control over satellite channels for most of them does not shine, AI too.
    In what conditions are UAVs applicable? In general, where there is no normal air defense or it is not used (for example, in peacetime). As shown by the recent conflicts in Syria and NKR. EMNIP in Idlib Anki and Bayraktar frolic for a day and a half until the Syrians pulled up the air defense system and ... that's all. In NKR, Azerbaijan also did not immediately use Bayraktars en masse. The first three days were spent on "probing" the Karabakh air defense to see if there was something similar on the Torah / Pantsiri / Buki and only then it started. Also, the Karabakh conflict showed that in greenhouse conditions, UAVs may well serve as a cheap replacement for strike aircraft.
    About the current backlog. How is it expressed? UAVs are not a panacea against serious air defense. Shot down, shot down and will shoot down. The only plus (and very important) is the preservation of the pilots' lives. Another "window of opportunity" before the UAV is still at the tactical level - reconnaissance, target designation and single strikes against a significant target. In both cases, there seems to be progress. Saturation of troops is a matter of time and assessment of the degree of need. It should be understood that UAVs are not yet a full-fledged replacement for manned aircraft. Supplement - yes. Important and necessary - yes. The only solution is still no.
    1. Viktor Sergeev
      Viktor Sergeev 13 January 2021 13: 27
      +3
      It's just that all modern wars are with countries that do not have air defense, or with barmaley, and here the UAV is more profitable from an economic point of view, especially if there are hundreds of them hanging without letting their heads rise.
  9. shinobi
    shinobi 14 January 2021 11: 46
    0
    One thing is incomprehensible to me, total optimism about drones. Not only ours, in general. Everyone was delighted with how drones were used in the Karabakh conflict. But only specialists noticed that the destruction of targets was not performed by drones. That the Armenians had nothing in the air at all, the stations The electronic warfare remained unused and the game was played in one wicket. In modern warfare, there is still no clear understanding of the place for shock drones with which everyone rushes around. American Reapers and Predators are killer drones that are absolutely not intended for action with full-fledged fire resistance. In a real war they will be immediately stunned and removed from the sky. The bottom line is only reconnaissance and target designation drones, the need for which no one doubts, and Russia (oddly enough) has a fairly large baggage of knowledge. But everyone rushes with drummers. And here we are not lagging behind anyone, because no one has any real combat drones. Only promising samples.which it is not clear how to use in a war with a technologichiski an equal enemy with a developed air defense. Only theory.