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Dispute with comrade Darwin about the entry of the Armed Forces of Ukraine into NATO

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I don’t understand Charles Darwin!


He came up with some kind of evolution. And all together began to study this theory. And they argue with the same passion with which we in Ukraine take pieces of sugar from each other.

Back to recruits


Why argue, then? Labor turned a monkey into a man? Show me this man. Here are those who from a man turned into a monkey through vodka or drugs, I see every day. And according to Darwin - for some reason it does not work out.

And I don't understand these caricaturists. Talented people. In half an hour, they will make an eagle or wood lice from any cockroach. And most importantly, it looks like it. People are having fun. And you come to the museum ... There are no these same cartoonists. There are classics. Cubists too. In the Tretyakov Gallery, they say, in general, there is a picture, which the artist painted to paint over something previous. The Black Square is called. Where are the cartoonists? Maybe they are not artists at all?

Do not think that I just remembered Darwin. We here in Ukraine are also constantly trying to evolve into something there. First, they "grew up" from a Soviet republic into an independent state. Now we are trying to grow into a European-democratic.

And we are acting here clearly according to the Bolshevik plan set forth in the "Internationale". Remember his first point?

"We will destroy the whole world of violence ...".

So, we finish already.

And in some areas, in Ukraine, in general, we have already begun the second stage -

"We are ours, we will build a new world."

It was then that Darwin came to my mind.

I came across an order from the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Andriy Taran on the introduction of the NATO standard STANAG 2116 in the Ukrainian army.

I don't really understand these standards. I had to ask a familiar officer, what was it about?

It turned out that we are unifying the table of ranks with NATO. Now we have NATO military ranks.

No, I, of course, understand that when an American general summons a Ukrainian general or officer, he should not think about who to call. The owner, in general, should not think when communicating with slaves. But what have the soldiers to do with it?

There must be at least some logical explanation?

And the word “recruit” somehow sounds bad in relation to a Ukrainian soldier who actually was at the front or participated in a peacekeeping operation in some Papuan. Private - understandable. And the recruit is not a soldier at all. Jung's of some sort. It's good that Taran himself explained to all of us clearly:

“These decisions are intended to change the Soviet-style career management system to the modern one adopted in the armies of the leading states.

In fact, this is a guide to the actions of cadre bodies to switch to a new philosophy of work, which provides for the creation of a career map for each soldier, sergeant, officer for his training, growth and support.

This decree will become the beginning of the Euro-Atlantic transformation of the existing personnel management system and an integral part of the draft concept of the military personnel policy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine until 2025 ”.

Strange, I always believed that the higher the rank of an officer or general, the more wisdom he has. You know, by analogy with age - the older, the wiser. It turns out that in life everything is different.

With a rise in rank and position, our Ukrainian generals do not grow wise. They are more wise! We have such a land, probably. Or is global warming to blame? Earlier, when it was still cold, it seemed like not such wizards served ...

It turns out that if a chimpanzee or a gorilla is put on a human suit, then it will become a human? I've seen these evolved in the circus. As he was a monkey, he remained. As he was a caricature of a person, he remains a caricature. Although, maybe this person is a caricature of a chimpanzee? Judging by what I see in the streets from time to time.

By the way, about the costumes. As far as I remember, we have already dressed up the Armed Forces of Ukraine according to the NATO model. Back in 2015, our soldiers looked like Europeans. At the same time, an order was issued to transfer to the STANAG 2920 and STANAG 4926 standards regarding protective equipment and uniforms. I am trying to remember what changed for the better in the Armed Forces of Ukraine then?

I thought for a long time about the question of distinguishing a good, modern army from an old, ineffective one. I was looking for analogies from the animal world. And, it seems, he found the answer why it is difficult to create a modern army. It's easy to drive sheep into a flock. Collect cows in a herd - too.

And try to drive the most harmless domestic cats into a flock. And they are predators, they know how to catch mice. I foresee your "this is impossible". Kuklachev in return. You can also create a "herd" of cats. This alone will require a lot of work and large investments.

But back to Darwin and Taran.

Andy Darwinian vector


Labor created man. Well yes. Digging stick. Only here the descendants of the great Maya for some reason today are not great at all.

What am I doing? There, in this very NATO, there are other standards. In particular, about the digging stick. In the sense - about the armament of the army. This is where the APU exactly copies the Soviet army. Weapon the same, the technique is the same ... Even all this was released during the Soviet era.

And what shishi to re-arm? Everything from automatic machines to tanks and planes - Soviet. Everything needs to be changed. Soviet ammunition in the warehouses. Repair factories are dedicated to restoring Soviet weapons and equipment. Even the boxes are built in accordance with Soviet standards in units. So it turns out that evolution will definitely not happen in the coming decades. The monkey man will not appear.

The gorilla will receive the newest machine gun and will chop nuts like a cobblestone. Or a supercomputer will knock bananas from a palm tree. Once, in my youth, I realized one truth, which I never doubted. What's the point if all the paths are open, if you don't have money for the road. What's the use of a talking shop if there is no money for anything.

Ah, the Americans will give us the most modern type of weapons. So what? Do we have the money for its maintenance? We will keep it in our arsenal and be proud that it lies there. Like javelins. Hurray, the chimpanzees were given a spear!

I wonder why we do everything by half? We learned how to destroy well, but we can't build. Back in my school years, I was very smart and always understood the task perfectly. As soon as they begin to set a task, I am already running to fulfill it. Then my father tore off a couple of collars on my shirts. When I caught the "understander". I remembered his saying for the rest of my life:

"Understood right away, did half the job."

In Ukraine today, this is in the rank of government decisions, orders of ministers and resolutions of the Rada. Half-time - half-time. We live for show. For the owner to see and appreciate our zeal. To give a bone a little larger than usual.

Are we bringing the army closer to NATO standards? We rub glasses on NATO and, most importantly, on ourselves.

As if we do not know about the general drunkenness in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, about drug addiction on the line of contact, about the undersupply in the units? A squad of 2–4 people, a platoon of 10–12 people on the front line is the norm today. There are no officers either. I will not say anything about desertion and hazing. Is NATO waiting for us like that? Then. Someday. May be.

That's it, Mr. Darwin.

Our Ukrainian army is strong and numerous, but there is no order in it. Come to us. Lead and command (paraphrased the chronicle a little). Maybe evolution will go faster then?

And if anything, then we are for you with all our hearts. With the fibers of the soul, so to speak.

Between us, in Ukraine, even glass containers do not give up without a fight. Not like the army ...

We are in Ukraine, wow ...
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  1. Feliks m
    Feliks m 15 January 2021 15: 06
    +20
    I also live in Ukraine, which is what we are talking about, we crap many times already.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 January 2021 15: 11
      +2
      Quote: Feliks m
      I also live in Ukraine, which is what we are talking about, we crap many times already.

      It's okay, let these oklomons more often, change diapers.
    2. credo
      credo 15 January 2021 15: 30
      +12
      Quote: Feliks m
      I also live in Ukraine, which is what we are talking about, we crap many times already.

      ... that means we must understand that life in Ukraine is being adjusted to NATO and EU standards, not so that its citizens begin to live better and more satisfying, but so that the leading NATO and EU countries can conveniently and understandably understand local terminology.
      No local gag or Soviet terminology - life and service only according to NATO and EU standards, with no prospects for improving life in the country in the future.
      Russia at one time had enough of "benefactors and helpful advisers" from the NATO and EU countries, so it still has difficulty getting rid of their "legacy". And it's time for you in Ukraine to come to this understanding before it's too late.
    3. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
      Aleksey Aleksandrovich 15 January 2021 15: 50
      +1
      I also live in Ukraine, what we are talking about, we crap many times already.


      And guess another 100500 times until it comes to you (not to you personally) that you are not doing it ...
  2. Cowbra
    Cowbra 15 January 2021 15: 07
    +15
    "It seems that all the former Soviet republics after the collapse of the USSR - joyfully climbed onto a palm tree and began to grow their tail"
    1. apro
      apro 15 January 2021 15: 11
      +3
      Quote: Cowbra
      "It seems that all the former Soviet republics after the collapse of the USSR - joyfully climbed onto a palm tree and began to grow their tail"

      It is correct that the communists were asked ... so that they would not interfere with their usual business ...
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 15 January 2021 15: 13
    +12
    Maybe evolution will go faster then?
  4. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 15 January 2021 15: 14
    +3
    And we were here yesterday with Comrade Lipchanin, we already wrote about Darwin. Not mistaken.
    1. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 16 January 2021 16: 21
      +2
      Any fool can offend Darwin.
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  6. Rose capone
    Rose capone 15 January 2021 15: 34
    -1
    Not with Darwin, but with Darwin. Instrumental case (by whom?)
    And I no longer want to discuss.
    1. nnm
      nnm 15 January 2021 15: 53
      +4
      And according to the theory of evolution of species, man did not descend from the monkey, but had an ancestor in common with it. But that is .... you can say that nit-picking.
      In principle, the main thing is said in the article - that no one talks about why NATO standards are better, for example, Russian or Soviet ones.
      Yes, the main goal of the reform is to make it easier for the owners to steer. Plus, new positions for reform, money cut, etc.
      The main thing is not said - that the Armed Forces have one, the main goal - to maintain fire at the Russian borders. They don't care about people, they don't care about everything - if only the owner was happy that this hotbed of tension exists. And the brigadier general or the colonel-general kindles it - not the point.
  7. Sayan
    Sayan 15 January 2021 15: 42
    +2
    Cockroach! Greetings! Well you're smart! It will not work out of a person's Banderlog! Only decay, and you know that very well!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 16 January 2021 17: 07
      +4
      Quote: Sayan
      It will not work out of a person's Banderlog!

      I, too, think so, a man cannot turn out from a monkey, but a monkey turns out.
  8. A_Lex
    A_Lex 15 January 2021 15: 51
    +17
    First, they "grew up" from a Soviet republic into an independent state. Now we are trying to grow into a European-democratic.


    In the USSR, the republics were purely nominal. The state was actually unitary. After the USSR was deliberately destroyed by internal geeks at the request of the West, all the republics as one build typical national-bourgeois projects. So it is inappropriate to talk about evolution in this context. These are different government projects with different goals.

    And we are acting here clearly according to the Bolshevik plan set forth in the "Internationale". Remember his first point?
    "We will destroy the whole world of violence ...".


    Nonsense. The Bolsheviks dreamed of a world revolution, which, in theory, was supposed to overthrow the rule of capital. And everything happens exactly the opposite - a bourgeois project is being built, the product of which is the big capitalists, i.e. oligarchs.

    It turns out that if a chimpanzee or gorilla is put on a human suit, then it will become a human?


    No, this means that if the leadership of the state focuses on a certain center of power, and openly declares a desire for integration, it will inevitably adopt standards, rules, guests, instructions, etc. formalized standards adopted in this center.

    Labor created man.


    Labor is not a subject, and only a subject can create something. So the opposite is true. Man created labor as a meaningful, purposeful activity that involves obtaining a predetermined result. Labor is inherent only in man.

    So it turns out that evolution will definitely not happen in the coming decades. The monkey man will not appear.


    Man is not descended from ape. Darwin himself nowhere and never claimed that man allegedly descended from an ape. He said that man and ape have a common ancestor.


    In general, the article is corny stupid. Inappropriate comparisons and analogies, silly haha.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 16 January 2021 17: 10
      +2
      Quote: A_Lex
      The Bolsheviks dreamed of a world revolution, which, in theory, was supposed to overthrow the rule of capital.

      And not everyone dreamed by the way, Comrade Stalin was “a statesman, he didn’t want a world revolution, but he wanted to build a socialist state on the foundation of the Russian Empire.
      1. A_Lex
        A_Lex 17 January 2021 14: 38
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        And not everyone dreamed by the way, Comrade Stalin was “a statesman, he didn’t want a world revolution, but he wanted to build a socialist state on the foundation of the Russian Empire.


        Lying. Here is a summary from Vicky regarding the 20th party convention at which the "personality cult" was condemned.

        They also discussed the international situation, the role of socialism as a world system and its struggle against imperialism, the disintegration of the colonial system of imperialism and the emergence of new developing countries. Concerning, the Leninist principle of the possibility of peaceful coexistence of states with different social systems was confirmed.

        The congress decided on the variety of forms of transition of states to socialism, pointed out that civil wars and violent upheavals are not a necessary stage on the path to a new social formation. The congress noted that "Conditions can be created for the peaceful implementation of fundamental political and economic transformations".


        It was from Khrushchev that the "variety of paths to socialism" was approved.

        Subsequent events showed that the "Leninist principle of the possibility of peaceful coexistence of states with different social systems" turned out to be incorrect, since the goal of the capitalist countries was to destroy the states that were building socialism.

        As a result of Khrushchev's subversive ideological sabotage, the USSR, as the flagship of socialism at that time, actually gave the go-ahead to other countries to build socialism "in different ways." As a result, not a single state in the world has gone over to socialism. Consequently, the "diversity of paths to socialism" is also wrong, which has been proven by practice of the application of this pseudo-principle throughout the 20th century. All this means that socialism can only be reached in one and only way, which everyone must follow without fail.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 17 January 2021 16: 17
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          Quote: A_Lex
          Lying. Here is a summary from Vicky regarding the 20th party convention at which the "personality cult" was condemned.

          Unified State Exam, Wikipedia, "peipsi time", this is the lot of 30 year olds born after December 1991.
          1. A_Lex
            A_Lex 17 January 2021 16: 34
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            Unified State Exam, Wikipedia, "peipsi time", this is the lot of 30 year olds born after December 1991.


            They wrote nonsense. Wikipedia as a centralized reference book is valuable not for conclusions, but for quotes and links to real facts that do not change their essence from being published in an electronic encyclopedia.

            However, you can always confirm your assertion by quoting the IVS from which it follows that the IVS DOES NOT WANT a world revolution and believes that the victory of socialism on the entire planet is impossible.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 17 January 2021 16: 41
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              Quote: A_Lex
              Wikipedia as a centralized reference book is valuable not for conclusions, but for quotes and links to real facts that do not change their essence from being published in an electronic encyclopedia.

              I understood the October Revolution, the history of the USSR, the Second World War from the quotes you teach in the Wikopedia. Good luck in your hard work. Sincerely.
              1. A_Lex
                A_Lex 17 January 2021 17: 02
                0
                I understood the October Revolution, the history of the USSR, the Second World War from the quotes you teach in the Wikopedia. Good luck in your hard work. Sincerely.


                Those. instead of confirming your statement that the IVS "did not want a world revolution, but wanted to build a socialist state on the foundations of the Russian Empire" with a direct quote on the IVS, you are engaged in unsubstantiated fantasies about your opponent, which, of course, is much easier, since you can dream up any gag, while it is impossible to give a non-existent quote.
                Therefore, your statement about the IVS is a lie, as, in fact, it was clear from the beginning.
                1. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 17 January 2021 17: 54
                  0
                  Quote: A_Lex
                  you are engaged in unsubstantiated fantasies about your opponent,

                  Prove the opposite, where is your evidence.
                  1. A_Lex
                    A_Lex 17 January 2021 17: 59
                    0
                    Prove the opposite.


                    There is no need to prove the opposite, since your statements are trepology.
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                    2. tihonmarine
                      tihonmarine 17 January 2021 18: 33
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                      Quote: A_Lex
                      There is no need to prove the opposite, since your statements are trepology.
                      And your cleverest inference is the pinnacle of human thought, and the rest are talkers.
                      1. A_Lex
                        A_Lex 17 January 2021 18: 39
                        0
                        And your cleverest inference is the pinnacle of human thought, and the rest are talkers.


                        Lying again. I, unlike you, did not attribute the lie to the IVS. And he called not all of you, but specifically you, and only within the framework of this discussion. Further communication with you I consider inappropriate.
                      2. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 17 January 2021 19: 27
                        +1
                        Quote: A_Lex
                        I, unlike you, did not attribute the lies to the IVS

                        That's right, you have no Ozetvites of lies, you are always right, for you Stalin is only an enemy. And for us Stalin, this is our state, this is Victory over the fascist scum.
  • VORON538
    VORON538 15 January 2021 16: 17
    0
    Between us, in Ukraine, even glass containers do not give up without a fight. Not like the army ...

    That is why there are seven boilers at hoh ... sorry, ukrokaratels recourse lol
    Sad epic about what is happening
    I hope this is just the civil strife that we had in Russia before
    And everything will come to one, the outskirts of Russia, torn away by traitors, will return to their homeland! hi
  • rocket757
    rocket757 15 January 2021 16: 27
    +3
    All this, of course, is entertaining ... the question is, what theories are taught to the younger generation in schools ???
    All sorts of different, essentially reduced to one denominator, one destiny awaits you, to be a toy in the hands of big uncles! And those uncles have blood on their hands ...
  • Asad
    Asad 15 January 2021 16: 53
    +1
    The author wrote the text on blue, sadness?
  • parusnik
    parusnik 15 January 2021 17: 25
    +5
    And so, in principle, the author, as I understand it, is not against Ukraine's accession to NATO .. ​​Criticizes the shortcomings, no more .. "How doyu do, Fuchs? How are you Fuchs? All right Christopher Bonifatevich! I mean, everything is all right?" (C)
  • Naval
    Naval 15 January 2021 17: 33
    +3
    As long as there are such "smart generals" and "economic warrant officers" in the outskirts, the outskirts of the army pose a greater threat to the outskirts than to their neighbors.
  • Shiden
    Shiden 15 January 2021 18: 04
    +2
    The person who wrote the article didn't really serve in the army. Yes, and he does not see any changes, such gentlemen want, as in a fairy tale, so that everything changes in an instant.
  • BAI
    BAI 15 January 2021 19: 44
    +4
    1. The style of presentation has changed. Which is gratifying.
    2.
    Labor turned a monkey into a man?

    The horse works hard. But I still haven't become a man.
    3.
    the higher the rank of an officer or general, the more wisdom he has. You know, by analogy with age - the older, the wiser. It turns out that in life everything is different.

    Exactly, in a different way. You just wonder how the title changes a person.
    1. ANB
      ANB 15 January 2021 21: 38
      +2
      Labor made a man out of a monkey.
      And from a man a horse.
      (c) folk wisdom.
  • 41st region
    41st region 17 January 2021 04: 17
    0
    Another stream of consciousness. Some "half-words". As a medicine, I still suggest having a snack.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 17 January 2021 16: 17
    0
    It was not work that turned from our common ancestor and monkeys into a man, but laziness. His ancestor was too lazy to climb for an inaccessible, although he could, a banana and took a stick in his hands. Time he was sorry for tearing the carcass of an animal, a stone chopper appeared. So progress appeared. The whole essence of progress comes down to reducing the cost of time / effort to do the work. For example, information technology. At the dawn of mankind, all important information was memorized by the person himself, but this method had a significant drawback. It took a lot of time, the phenomenon of elders, and was lost with the death of the carrier. The solution was writing, one's own memory ceased to be a key factor, but the dissemination of general knowledge rested on the individual speed of the distributor. For the exchange of information, personal contact was needed. With the advent of the telegraph, this was no longer necessary. The transmission speed decreased. With the advent of PC, the need for a person disappeared.
  • NEOZ
    NEOZ 18 January 2021 02: 09
    0
    In Ukraine today

    in the sense of "ON"?
    the cockroach decided to mow under its own?
    Our Ukrainian army is strong and numerous, but there is no order in it. Come to us. Lead and command (paraphrased the chronicle a little). Maybe evolution will go faster then?

    And if anything, then we are for you with all our hearts. With the fibers of the soul, so to speak.

    Between us, in Ukraine, even glass containers do not give up without a fight. Not like the army ...

    We are in Ukraine, wow ...

    Cockroach, why do you need an army? - to kill Ukrainians from Donbass?
    ps
    perhaps the NATO ranks are exactly for this and are needed ... the day of high-quality control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine ... by NATO generals ...