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"Why do we need the FBI then": Americans react to what the special service knew about the impending riots in Washington

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The American edition WP (The Washington Post) comes out with material, which presents some data on the storming of the Capitol on January 6. This topic has been on the front pages of all major American newspapers for a week, along with the topic of the "second" impeachment of President Trump.


American authors note that a few days before the vote in Congress on the approval of Joseph Biden as the 46th President of the United States, the FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigation) knew about the impending provocations and riots in Washington. The US press noted that FBI officers received information that representatives of radical organizations were flocking to Washington, who literally wrote the following on social networks:

Let Washington prepare for war.

It is added that many were heading to the American capital with a personal weapons, then "possibly hiding it at the entrance to DC."
From the material:

But both the FBI and the DOJ said they had no information about a possible escalation of protests on Capitol Hill. And this despite the fact that representatives of radical groups openly shared their plans on social networks.

It is noted that the FBI is now announcing a reward for information about participants in the January 6 riots. According to some reports, the bureau has already received more than 40 thousand denunciations.

Such posters are posted on the FBI website:



Looking for ...

In this regard, ordinary Americans - among those who condemn the action on January 6 - asked the question: "If the FBI did not have data on the impending riots in Washington, although such data could be found on social networks, then what are the bureau employees getting paid for?"

Several comments from American users:

Why do we need the FBI then ...

They could have prevented riots and the invasion of the Capitol, but this was not done. There even the police were removed from the streets for some reason. All this is strange.

Did you know and didn't react? Hmm
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 13 January 2021 07: 37
    +5
    Luster FBI, Democracy Freedom!
    1. Far B
      Far B 13 January 2021 07: 51
      +2
      Why do we need the FBI then ...
      Duc, disband him to such and such a mother, because you are not. Look, on the wave of BLM they already wanted to disband the police - and the FBI, redheads, or what? Then they will disband something else, they have fun because in the last year (and, it seems, is far from the end)
      1. bad
        bad 13 January 2021 08: 47
        +20
        Several comments from American users:
        Why do we need the FBI then ...

        What to spend taxes
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 13 January 2021 11: 19
        +1
        Quote: Dalny V
        Duc, disband him to such and such a mother, because you are not.

        Duc not at all. The FBI did its job for the sake of "democracy", compromising Trump and formalizing the official reason for the Democrats' crackdown on the Republican party. Soon, a one-party system will work in the United States, which will ensure all subsequent election victories (without choice) for the clintonoid-bidenites for many years to come. Everything will be placed under total control and to stifle dissent. Despotism in its purest form.
        1. Machito
          Machito 13 January 2021 14: 11
          0
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Quote: Dalny V
          Duc, disband him to such and such a mother, because you are not.

          Duc not at all. The FBI did its job for the sake of "democracy", compromising Trump and formalizing the official reason for the Democrats' crackdown on the Republican party. Soon, a one-party system will work in the United States, which will ensure all subsequent election victories (without choice) for the clintonoid-bidenites for many years to come. Everything will be placed under total control and to stifle dissent. Despotism in its purest form.

          The storming of the Capitol is an action planned by the US special services, like the arson of the Reichstag. The FBI, like other intelligence agencies, did nothing, because the storming of the Capitol was part of its plans.
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 13 January 2021 08: 01
      +1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Luster FBI, Democracy Freedom!

      Mmm .., lustrate .. are you suggesting hanging them on the chandeliers ???
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 13 January 2021 08: 28
        +2
        Trump's good intentions to organize a rally in his support, the FBI turned into a provocation to finish him off.
        All according to plan.
        Yeltsin (US court) has already announced that the regions (states) would take as much sovereignty as they can, now the State Emergency Committee tried to portray something. We are waiting for the execution of their white house.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 13 January 2021 08: 40
          +1
          Quote: Boris55
          Trump's good intentions to organize a rally in his support, the FBI turned into a provocation to finish him off.

          Hi Boris! Let me remind you that the acting president is still crazy with all the powers and the FBI, like the army, are directly subordinate to him.
          Donya made a lot of mischief when he called people "to the arrow", but he did not come, and then he also announced the punishment of those who stormed the Capitol!
          I do not know who advised him, but the fact that revolutions are not done this way is a fact. The tryampnyash merged to the fullest and began to fly around the "apartment", like a deflating ball laughing
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 13 January 2021 08: 55
            0
            Quote: Stroporez
            I will remind you that the current president is still the acting president with all the powers

            hi He has powers, but he cannot use them. Your faith in the omnipotence of the president (both theirs and ours) is simply amazing. Power is not a tag on the office, but the ability to govern. Management is an informational process. Trump, when his access to social networks was blocked, was deprived of the opportunity to govern.

            Quote: Stroporez
            And Donya was very naughty when he called people "to the arrow",

            Provocateurs hired by the FBI climbed the wall, dragging people along. That is why I do not like the crowd - in it a person does not belong to himself, the laws of the crowd operate there.

            Quote: Stroporez
            I do not know who advised him, but the fact that revolutions are not done this way is a fact.

            He had no intention of organizing a revolution, and if he wanted, the 80 million who voted for him could easily seize power in Washington. Let me remind you that in Ukraine, 2 percent was enough to change the government.

            Quote: Stroporez
            The rag has merged in full

            Trump may have merged, but in 4 years he managed to form parallel power structures, and the diarchy (Ruttskoy-Yeltsin) is never endless. we sit down more comfortably and continue to chew the popcorn

            ps
            You, speaking against Trump, stand up for the representatives of the Clinton clan i.e. for Chubais with Gaidar and so on. We have oligarchs who were appointed to us in the 90s?
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 13 January 2021 09: 08
              +2
              Quote: Boris55
              Trump may have merged, but in 4 years he managed to form parallel power structures

              What are these parallel ones? belay
              Borya, I told you a long time ago that everything was completely mixed up in your head, then you are a Bolshevik, but at the same time a Putinist, and now you have almost Donya Ilyich.
              The only thing that I clearly condemn is his blocking in social. networks, and the rest to me, that donya, that can, absolutely do not care.
              I will only add that the storming of the Capitol reminded me of setting fire to the Reichstag, as a provocation, but the storming of the Winter Palace is not at all drawn to.
              1. Kart
                Kart 13 January 2021 09: 15
                0
                Quote: Stroporez
                I will only add that the storming of the Capitol reminded me of setting fire to the Reichstag, as a provocation, but the storming of the Winter Palace is not at all drawn to.

                It's a pity, to be honest.
                A revolution in the United States would be a better event than ours.
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 13 January 2021 09: 17
                  +4
                  Quote: Carte
                  It's a pity, to be honest.
                  A revolution in the United States would be a better event than ours.

                  I'm for Socialist, everything else is egg-laying.
                  1. Kart
                    Kart 13 January 2021 09: 43
                    +3
                    Well, so I am for her. IN USA.
              2. Boris55
                Boris55 13 January 2021 09: 21
                +2
                Quote: Stroporez
                What are these parallel ones?

                There are those who are for him and there are those who are against, who are in power (20 states), which are among the people (80 million).

                Quote: Stroporez
                you are a Bolshevik, but at the same time a Putinist

                While Putin works for the interests of the majority, and he increases the well-being of the majority, I will be for him, he is a Bolshevik for me, we are of the same blood.

                Quote: Stroporez
                and now you have Donya

                I am not sympathetic to any enemy of Russia, incl. and Trump, but I am even more unsympathetic to the Clintonoids there, and even more so to those who settled down in the 90s in all government bodies (and the media) here.
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 13 January 2021 09: 37
                  +2
                  Quote: Boris55
                  As long as Putin works for the interests of the majority, and he increases the well-being of the majority, I will be for him, he is a Bolshevik for me, we are of the same blood.

                  Maladets Boris! So you showed your true face, can you ascend to Golgotha ​​for him? weak?
                  I will not stop repeating that Comrade Stalin was the greatest humanist, otherwise he would have ripped out such "Bolsheviks" by their roots if he knew what would happen next.
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 13 January 2021 09: 41
                    +5
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    So you showed your true face

                    I never hid it. For me, the interests of the majority of the people have always been, are and will be a priority.

                    And for you, as I understand it, the interests of the Clintonoid Chubais are above all?
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 09: 34
              0
              Quote: Boris55
              He has powers, but he cannot use them. Your faith in the omnipotence of the president (both theirs and ours) is simply amazing. Power is not a tag on the office, but the ability to govern. Management is an informational process. Trump, when his access to social networks was blocked, was deprived of the opportunity to govern.

              The CIA reports directly to the President of the United States.
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 13 January 2021 09: 39
                0
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                The CIA reports directly to the President of the United States.

                The CIA is people who think about the future, about whether they will remain in their chair with the arrival of Bidon or not.
                1. Sergej1972
                  Sergej1972 13 January 2021 09: 46
                  +1
                  Chairs will only be changed at the top management. For the overwhelming majority of employees, the change of the president is not in danger. Well, a lot depends on funding. states may increase. but may shrink.
              2. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 13 January 2021 09: 47
                +1
                Quote: Mordvin 3
                The CIA reports directly to the President of the United States.

                And Bore doesn’t care, he’s a repeater who, behind the husks of loud words, agitates for Putinism, this is our everything.
    3. Insurgent
      Insurgent 13 January 2021 08: 26
      -1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Luster FBI, Democracy Freedom!

      Their direct path along the path of the Outskirts, in the experiment with "lustration" yes

    4. halpat
      halpat 13 January 2021 08: 31
      +3
      The FBI is like Zhirinovsky. Knows everything, and what he does not know, he will lie.
  2. Olddetractor
    Olddetractor 13 January 2021 07: 37
    +6
    They could have prevented riots and the invasion of the Capitol, but this was not done. There even the police were removed from the streets for some reason. All this is strange.

    It was just a provocation
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 13 January 2021 08: 29
      +10
      Yes, a lot of opinions have already been voiced by a variety of people - from "The FBI knew everything" ("The FBI received reliable and actionable information about individuals who planned to go to protests and expressed a desire to participate in violence. The FBI managed to dissuade these people from going to DC "- reported on NBC.) before" the vaunted American state machine malfunctioned "(" The unprofessional and incompetent many representatives of law enforcement agencies and other agencies involved in security must be held accountable for the unrest in the Capitol, "said the director of the National Counterintelligence Center and US Security William Evanin.).
      It is very muddy, this whole story strongly resembles September 11, there in America itself they have not yet decided finally - they knew, did not know whether they themselves blew it up or not ... In such cases, the truth emerges many years later than the events, if at all ...
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 January 2021 07: 40
    +3
    Why do we need the FBI then ...
    And then, if necessary and at the "request" of the democrats, to organize such riots at the right time.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 13 January 2021 07: 54
      +2
      And at the expense of knowing ... So they once knew about September 11 and about many other things. Although the FBI is not really there now, and A rules the Department of Homeland Security there. The Patriot Act in Action !!! They educate informers themselves very well, and even for a fee - to get a dough for a "knock-knock", you just need to fill out the appropriate form.
      And so, for a snack, about who really rules there: a fragment from the address of Rabbi Emmanuel Rabinovich to the meeting of European rabbis in Budapest on January 12, 1952:
      “I can definitely assure you that the last generation of white children is now being born. Our governing committees, in the interests of peace and overcoming interracial tensions, will prohibit white-to-white intercourse ... Thus, the white race will disappear, because the mixture of dark and white will mean the end of the white man, and our most dangerous enemy will only remain in memories. An era of ten thousand years of peace and prosperity, the Jewish world (Pax Judaica), will come for us, and our race will unconditionally rule the whole world. Our superior intellect will enable us to maintain dominance over the world of the dark peoples. "
      East Edgar J. Steele, Conspiracy PenPal series articles (Edgar J. Steele, Conspiracy Correspondence Series).
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 13 January 2021 12: 20
        0
        the end of the white man, and our most dangerous enemy will remain only in memories
        Rabinovich could not help but know that people of color hate Jews more powerful than whites, and they are not shy about money (unlike whites). Therefore, he probably did not say anything like that.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 13 January 2021 12: 28
          -1
          Read the source, everything I can say, we will not check it ourselves. By the way, this is 1952, then it was all seen a little differently. In the end, who owns American money? And how do people of color vote? Whether they love or hate it makes no difference. They will love the one who pays benefits
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 13 January 2021 12: 40
            +2
            They will love the one who pays benefits
            Already now they look at the benefits as a tribute and are outraged that it is not enough, so it's not a fact. Black racists - anti-Semites are worse than the Black Hundreds - they take revenge for the exploitation of the resources of their native Africa (in which the majority never happened) and for the slave trade (they believe that it was not fellow tribesmen, but the Jews)
            1. NDR-791
              NDR-791 13 January 2021 12: 46
              0
              Black racist anti-Semites
              Are there many of them? It seems that this is not a mass phenomenon, or we would have been eaten by these cases in the media because the media belong to the same clans. And at the expense "they look at the benefits as a tribute and are outraged that little" so it was to be expected. For from good people, unfortunately, much more often than we would like. Now we see, so to speak, the translation of the arrows. From yourself to anyone - Republicans, whites, Russian hackers, etc.
              1. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 13 January 2021 12: 52
                +3
                And a lot of these?
                Almost all are black. I talked a lot with them (in Europe) and they do not even hide that they have a very negative attitude towards Jews. In addition, people of color are easily infected with the idea, if an authoritative preacher tells them that "they crucified Christ," then all as one will kindle with righteous anger am ... It is worth noting that there are many Muslims among the colored, and I think there is no need to write about their "love" for the Jews.
                1. NDR-791
                  NDR-791 13 January 2021 13: 00
                  0
                  Now perhaps so. I think there was no such general attitude in 52m yet. And this migration has never happened. Then, perhaps, only the Algerians huddled France and that's it. All Africa still
                  was painted in the colonies and butted maximum with the colonialists "on the ground", so to speak. Israel has not yet turned half the world against itself. So I fully admit the statements of that rabbi. However, I also think that he was grossly mistaken in the means to achieve goals.
                  1. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter 13 January 2021 13: 05
                    +2
                    he was grossly mistaken in the means to achieve his goals.
                    So large that if not him, then his colleagues would have paid attention to it. Black racists, albeit few in number, already existed then and did not hide their views on the "Jewish question".
                    1. NDR-791
                      NDR-791 13 January 2021 13: 10
                      -1
                      He said this in Budapest (in Hungary !!!) and also under Stalin. Where do the black racists come from? But against the background of the "case of doctors" and the first to drive the Jews in the Union, he could well have chosen such a method for a very multinational country. So perhaps this method was invented for "us".
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 13 January 2021 13: 16
                        0
                        He said this in Budapest
                        And on the podium especially for Rabinovich (for an extra charge wassat ) put a decanter with the blood of a Christian baby yes
                        From my point of view, either the button accordion, or Rabinovich, Sarah brought it to insanity laughing .
                      2. NDR-791
                        NDR-791 13 January 2021 13: 22
                        +1
                        Sarah brought him to insanity
                        And that's right ... Yes, okay, it was not that I see, then I sing. The book is in English, it's hard for me with him, and I've read it for a long time. I just remembered, found, inserted. Although, for example, this quote contradicts little what Soros is doing.
                      3. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 13 January 2021 13: 26
                        0
                        this quote contradicts little what Soros is doing.
                        It is simply impossible to understand attempts to powder people's brains now. This obviously happens haphazardly, but they are clearly trying to stir up public conscience.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 13 January 2021 07: 49
    0
    The US press noted that FBI employees received information that representatives of radical organizations were flocking to Washington, who literally wrote the following on social networks:
    Let Washington prepare for war.

    Government officials, politicians, turn the special and other services as they want, at their discretion !!!
    What usually happens as a result ???
    Everything is quite natural ... the serviceman is waiting to see who will emerge victorious from that battle and then ...
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 13 January 2021 07: 53
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      Government officials, politicians, turn special and other services as they want,
      There is also the question of who turns whom ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 13 January 2021 07: 59
        +2
        Quote: Volodin
        There is also the question of who turns whom ...

        When some of the big service bosses joins the game, goes to someone else's side, he is no longer an SERVICE, he becomes a SERVICE!
        The conglomerate of the rich is being turned around !!! The rest, politicians, helpful and others, are their servants !!!
        A conglomerate can be heterogeneous, divided into opposing factions, with their own specific interests, ideas, BUT, this will not fundamentally change anything, for everyone else, helpful, philistine ...
    2. Simple
      Simple 13 January 2021 19: 55
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      Government officials, politicians, turn special and other services as they want, at their discretion !!! ...

      During the reign of Bill Clinton, the FVR "led the case against him."
      Trump too.
      They have such a job.
      Traffic at 1:12:02 to 1:12:12
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 13 January 2021 07: 52
    +5
    laughing


    In Russia, they are tired of laughing at the tyranny there. Everything that was sculpted about "Mordor" - everything turned out to be in Matrasia. Denunciations, censorship, violation of rights, freedoms, laws. about public threats against the Trumpists from senators or editor-in-chief of newspapers - generally silent
    1. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 08: 03
      +3
      Quote: Cowbra
      Denunciations

      To snitch on their neighbor is their norm.
      1. Cowbra
        Cowbra 13 January 2021 08: 12
        +2
        Quote: Mordvin 3
        To snitch on their neighbor is their norm.

        By the way, yes. In general, all democratic people have it like that) I remember Talerhof, the first concentration camp in Europe - they scored a moment. Do you think the Austrians ran around the Carpathians, identified unreliable Rusyns? There, in about a week, half of the Carpathians dripped onto the other. And the places in the concentration camp ran out
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 13 January 2021 08: 06
      -7

      P. Morozov's case lives on and wins laughing
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 13 January 2021 08: 08
        +2
        Quote: Lipchanin
        P. Morozov's case lives on and wins

        Turn on your mind at least a little, or are the clichés of liberals replacing it to you?
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 13 January 2021 08: 13
          -3
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          or the cliches of liberals

          This is the stamp, to hang LABELS !!!
          With what fright I am a "liberast" ???
          frost DONOS did not write to a relative ????
          So where is the stamp ???
          As an ideology, they hammered into Boska that DONOS is a blessing.
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 13 January 2021 08: 22
            -3
            Quote: Lipchanin
            As an ideology, they hammered into Boska that DONOS is a blessing.

            It is the liberals who believe that "denunciation is always evil", not realizing that this is a pure cliché. True, they, like AUEshniki, often confuse a statement with a denunciation.
            Well, and the fool LME-chicked to compare with the murdered teenager is also so-so, far from a sign of clear thinking! By the way, the younger brother of Morozov, killed by dad, is also an informer?
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 13 January 2021 08: 35
              -4
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              It is the liberals who believe that "denunciation is always evil", not realizing that this is a pure cliche.

              It is NORMAL people who believe that denunciation is mean !!!
              Well, and the fool LME-chicked to compare with the murdered teenager is also so-so, far from a sign of clear thinking!

              So how does Morozov's denunciation differ from that American denunciation?
              Both the one and the other were carried to RELATIVES
              By the way, the younger brother of Morozov, killed by dad, is also an informer?

              I said about Moroov, but not about his brother


              ,
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 08: 41
                0
                Quote: Lipchanin
                So how does Morozov's denunciation differ from that American denunciation?

                Pavlik was 13 years old, you know what age. And this stupid one is 18.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 13 January 2021 08: 46
                  -6
                  Quote: Mordvin 3
                  Pavlik was 13 years old, you know what age. And this stupid one is 18.

                  Yes, age at what ???
                  I'm talking about the FACT itself. About the fact of DONOS
                  We are talking about denunciation as a phenomenon.
                  Or does denunciation become not denunciation due to age?
                  1. Mordvin 3
                    Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 08: 59
                    +2
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    Yes, age at what ???

                    For that matter, his brother, who was also killed, was either 7 or 8 years old. Who are you blaming here? The informer Pavlik with his brother? They still had that family. And dad is the chairman of the village council, he traded in certificates.
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin 13 January 2021 09: 05
                      -5
                      Quote: Mordvin 3
                      Who are you blaming here?

                      DONOSCHIKOV And the American and our
                      1. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 09: 11
                        +6
                        Quote: Lipchanin
                        DONOSCHIKOV And the American and our

                        I don't give a damn about the American woman, but don't touch Pavlik. There, the whole family on the father's side deserved to be shot. It was during perestroika that all sorts of relatives "" of the innocent "repressed" and their singers began to pour slop on Pavlik.
                      2. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 13 January 2021 09: 14
                        +7
                        Quote: Mordvin 3
                        I don't give a damn about the American woman, but don't touch Pavlik. There, the whole family on the father's side deserved to be shot. It was during perestroika that all sorts of slops began to pour on Pavlik

                        I fully support! During perestroika, many people were undeservedly cheated.
                2. Vladimir_2U
                  Vladimir_2U 13 January 2021 09: 03
                  +2
                  Quote: Lipchanin
                  I'm talking about the FACT itself. About the fact of DONOS
                  We are talking about denunciation as a phenomenon.
                  You have brought the most shameful and very controversial, if not deceitful, STAMP about a specific person.
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 13 January 2021 09: 06
                    -5
                    Quote: Vladimir_2U
                    You have brought the most shameful and very controversial, if not deceitful,

                    You want to say that Morozov did not write a denunciation against his relative?
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 09: 23
                      +2
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      You want to say that Morozov did not write a denunciation against his relative?

                      Did not write. He just spoke in court that his father was a thief and an accomplice of the kulaks.
                    2. Vladimir_2U
                      Vladimir_2U 13 January 2021 10: 12
                      +2
                      Quote: Lipchanin
                      You want to say that Morozov did not write a denunciation against his relative?
                      That's exactly what I wrote. Including. Testimony in court is not a denunciation, even against a relative. Especially a hated relative.
                    3. Vlad world
                      Vlad world 13 January 2021 10: 19
                      -2
                      The man wrote under the dictation of his Mother. Since she was illiterate. And she was offended by her husband who went to another. So my mother took revenge.
                      Here people do not know, but they ring the bells - an informer type.
                      And since the "heroes" were not enough, they raised them on the shield as well as the "fiery tractor driver"
                    4. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 11: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: Vlad-world
                      And since the "heroes" were not enough, they raised them on the shield as well as the "fiery tractor driver"

                      This is much better than awarding the highest order of Russia to (First-Called) Gorbachev. The official media are keeping quiet, they don't throw lavrushka wreaths into the air.
          2. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 13 January 2021 08: 56
            +1
            Quote: Lipchanin
            It is NORMAL people who believe that denunciation is mean!

            Can an anonymous call about an impending crime be considered a denunciation for fear of reprisals? Or a statement by a woman against her ex-husband about physical threats?

            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            True, they, like AUE specialists, often confuse a statement with a denunciation.

            What do you answer to this?

            Quote: Lipchanin
            So how does Morozov's denunciation differ from that American denunciation?
            Both the one and the other were carried to RELATIVES

            Even in the propaganda version, there is no denunciation:
            "It was me who filed a lawsuit against my father."
            What's the denunciation? So it is, that the denunciation, that the statement, that the testimony at the trial, for people like you, everything is the same.

            In fact:
            The conviction that the arrest of Pavlik's father came precisely from the denunciation of the boy was later refuted by the investigator himself, who participated in the Trofim case. In fact, the reason for the arrest was the detention of two peasants, with forms with the seals of the Gerasimov village council found on them.

            So the stamp about Pavlik as an informer is a stamp in its purest form.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 13 January 2021 09: 18
              -5
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Or a statement by a woman against her ex-husband about physical threats?

              How coolly distorted laughing
              American on parents, frost on relative. Are they the FORMER? laughing
              What do you answer to this?

              It's nothing.
              I've never seen DONOS on myself
              Even in the propaganda version, there is no denunciation:

              What other propaganda version?
              Haven't seen one?
              What's the denunciation? So it is, that the denunciation, that the statement, that the testimony at the trial, for people like you, everything is the same.

              Everything is upside down again
              later refuted by the investigator himself, who participated in the Trofim case.

              Yes, he would try not to refute laughing laughing
              Yes, he himself would be sent to Krolym
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 13 January 2021 10: 07
                +1
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Or a statement by a woman against her ex-husband about physical threats?
                How coolly distorted
                Of course distorted.
                Soon, Pavel's father left his family (a wife with four children) and began to cohabit with a woman who lived next door - Antonina Amosova. According to the recollections of the teacher Pavel, his father regularly beat his wife and children both before and after leaving the family.
                Of course, this is an exemplary and never a former father. Pavlik Morozov.

                Quote: Lipchanin
                What do you answer to this?
                It's nothing.
                I've never seen DONOS on myself
                Here is masterfully distorted, this is about you:
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                True, they, like AUE specialists, often confuse a statement with a denunciation.
                What do you answer to this?
                What does the denunciation have to do with you? Here about the fact that you are confusing a denunciation with a statement, are you confusing it or not?

                Quote: Lipchanin
                What other propaganda version?
                I have not seen this
                The fact that the Soviet school version of what happened to Pavlik in its pure form of propaganda has not reached you until now ?!
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Everything is upside down again
                Testimony in court against the former, and very spiteful at the same time, father and denunciation are the same for you. Clearly understood.

                Quote: Lipchanin
                Yes, he would try not to refute laughing laughing
                Yes, he himself would be sent to Krolym
                Use worn-out liberal clichés and clichés and at the same time be offended by the definition of you as a liberal! Bravo, just shine!
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 08: 38
          -5
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          By the way, the younger brother of Morozov, killed by dad, is also an informer?

          Their grandfather and cousin got banged. Or with my uncle, I don't really remember.
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 13 January 2021 08: 39
            0
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Their grandfather and cousin got banged. Or with my uncle, I don't really remember
            Dad actively encouraged them, there was a whole conspiracy.
            1. Avior
              Avior 13 January 2021 08: 53
              +2
              More likely a grandfather, my father had been imprisoned before.
              1. Vladimir_2U
                Vladimir_2U 13 January 2021 09: 02
                -1
                Quote: Avior
                More likely a grandfather, my father had been imprisoned before.

                Yes, I tupanul about my dad, years ago.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 08: 48
            0
            In the case of the murder of Pavlik Morozov, four people were convicted - the grandparents of the dead boys, as well as Danil's cousin and godfather Arseny Kulukanov, who was his uncle. The direct perpetrator of the crime, Danila Morozov, and one of the “customers” of the murder, Arseny Kulukanov, were shot, and the elderly Ksenia and Sergei Morozov were sentenced to imprisonment. It is interesting that one of the accused, Arseniy Silin, was fully acquitted.

            https://aif.ru/society/history/strasti_po_pioneru_kem_byl_pavlik_morozov_geroem_ili_predatelem
            Who does not agree there, are arguments possible?
      2. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 13 January 2021 08: 39
        +3
        Quote: Lipchanin
        With what fright I am a "liberast" ???
        frost DONOS did not write to a relative ????
        So where is the stamp ???
        .
        So, do not stamp nasty things with a smile. Do you know who Fyodor Morozov is? And what is he known for?
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 13 January 2021 08: 52
          -8
          Quote: There was a mammoth
          Do you know who Fyodor Morozov is? And what is he known for?

          Studied at school
          Known for writing a denunciation of his relative.
          And about the label. I've noticed that as soon as another point of view appears, instantly a shortcut.
          Probably you cannot discuss without labels.
          Now I’ll ask you.
          How does DONOS Morozov differ from DONOS to relatives of an American woman?
          I will give you a hint. We have scouts, they have spies
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 13 January 2021 09: 00
            +1
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Studied at school
            Known for writing a denunciation of his relative.

            There was no question of any denunciation, citizen lied! There was a talk about direct open accusation.
          2. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 09: 03
            0
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Known for writing a denunciation of his relative.

            Who is this, I wonder?
          3. Hunter 2
            Hunter 2 13 January 2021 09: 03
            -6
            Quote: Lipchanin

            Studied at school

            Poorly Studied! Read the comment below, "dropout"!
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 13 January 2021 09: 29
              -5
              Quote: Hunter 2
              Poorly Studied! Read the comment below, "dropout"!

              I'm not interested in you.
              You do not consider DONOS DONOS and all the time you take everything aside
              You don't have to answer. I won't read it anyway
              1. Hunter 2
                Hunter 2 13 January 2021 09: 37
                -2
                Quote: Lipchanin

                I'm not interested in you.
                You do not consider DONOS DONOS and all the time you take everything aside
                You don't have to answer. I won't read it anyway

                Did you forget to take a pill? I - you the whole situation I chewed down the branch. Open the dictionary, read - What is Denunciation, what is Testimony!
                Offended by the sick one? Well, don't write nonsense - you will pass for smart. Only the Moral Geeks, whom Lipchanin, out of bewilderment, tries to whitewash, could kill the 8 year old child Fyodor and 13 Year old Pavel.
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          5. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 13 January 2021 13: 38
            +2
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Now I’ll ask you.
            How does DONOS Morozov differ from DONOS to relatives of an American woman?

            Amazing happens sometimes on "VO" with deleted comments.
            Is it deleted for this?
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Yes, age at what ???

            For killing children.
            Or for this?
            "Druzhnikov's speculations were happily picked up by the magazines Ogonyok, Yunost, radio station" Freedom. " In 1991, the monument to pioneer Morozov on Krasnopresnensky Boulevard in Moscow was thrown from the pedestal by a frenzied crowd of "democrats" and smashed. His name became a household symbol of betrayal, and the group "Crematorium" in one of their songs even tried to present Pavlik Morozov as the root of all troubles ... The Memorial Society began to seek the rehabilitation of the murderers of Pavel Morozov. But the General Prosecutor's Office and the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation refused to review the case."

            Maybe the deleters of comments would at least in a personal explain their actions. It would be decent.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 13 January 2021 18: 08
              0
              Quote: There was a mammoth
              Maybe the deleters of comments would at least in a personal explain their actions.

              Samsonov dug up the material. Based on the comments, an article will be made. laughing
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    3. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 13 January 2021 08: 53
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Turn on your mind at least a little, or are the clichés of liberals replacing it to you?

      Colleague, what are you talking about? wassat After all, during the day, many of our fellow citizens retell what the evening M told them in the evening, and it's no fucking thing to think about laughing
  • Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 13 January 2021 08: 47
    +5
    Quote: Lipchanin

    P. Morozov's case lives on and wins laughing

    Pasha was born in 1918 in the Ural village of Gerasimovka in the family of Trofim and Tatyana Morozov. In their relationship, hostility and even hatred reigned. The father beat both his wife and young children, and later left the family for a neighbor altogether. Relatives of Trofim Tatiana and her children also hated and called them nothing more than "puppies". The Morozov family had a bad name in the village. Trofim himself, who headed the local village council, took bribes, forged documents for the kulaks, and robbed the houses of dispossessed fellow villagers. His parents were no better: his mother became famous as a horse thief, and his father, as they said, was a gendarme before the revolution. The family lived in a kulak-rich way, so they did not particularly like the Soviet government, which carried out dispossession and collectivization. Therefore, they disliked Pavlik even more, who joined the pioneer organization created in Gerasimovka.
    In 1931, rumors about Trofim's abuse reached the relevant authorities. A check came to the village, after which Morozov was brought to trial. The ex-wife Tatiana and her young son Pavel were invited to the meeting as witnesses. Both she and he confirmed at the trial that Trofim traded with false certificates and hid grain that had not been handed over to the state. In fact, there was no denunciation, and there was only testimony from Tatiana and Pavlik Morozov. Trofim was sentenced to ten years and sent to a camp.
    The angry relatives of the exiled apparently considered that the daughter-in-law and grandson had betrayed Trofim. Their hatred of Pavlik, Tatiana and her other children grew even more. In the end, they decided to take revenge on them. Pasha's cousin and his grandfather took over this business. In early September 1932, they learned that Tatiana had left the village and decided to fulfill her plans. Relatives tracked down Pavel and Fyodor Morozov, who went to the forest for berries, and committed this brutal murder in the wilderness. The children were missed by their mother, who arrived a few days later. The bodies of the murdered boys were found there, in the forest thicket. Pavlik was 13, and Fedya was 8 years old.
    Lipchanin, stop writing Nonsense! Learn history! From Tyumen to Gerasimovka 118 km, I have been there many times.
  • Avior
    Avior 13 January 2021 08: 25
    -1
    About kyborg is a primitive fake.
    Two Russian-speaking detainees - mother and daughter, daughter - activist of the Republican Party, mother needed an interpreter.
    1. Cowbra
      Cowbra 13 January 2021 08: 36
      -1
      One "Kyborg" was already crushed behind Trump by BLM truck. The ATO veteran turned out, yes.
  • Charik
    Charik 13 January 2021 08: 13
    +1
    someone turned a normal scam and everyone is silent and nods at each other
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 13 January 2021 08: 28
    +1
    State journalists like to pull an owl on the globe. That's always after any event, they and the special services claim that they supposedly knew everything in advance. But they also never used it. Definitely both STARS.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 13 January 2021 08: 33
    +2

    Finally, we have lived to see the day when the United States sent troops to the United States to establish democracy.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 13 January 2021 08: 41
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      Finally, we have lived to see the day when the United States sent troops to the United States to establish democracy.

      A group of oil workers?

      1. APASUS
        APASUS 13 January 2021 09: 03
        +3
        Quote: Insurgent
        A group of oil workers?

        See how the hamsters came running at once minuses instructed, how dared to encroach on the sacred
  • Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 13 January 2021 09: 24
    +1
    Looking for ... And already found:The two improvised bombs found near the Capitol on the day of the riots had timers, and they were also equipped with detonators, he said at a briefing. US Federal Attorney Michael Sherwin.
    The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) opened more than 160 cases after the storming of the Capitol by supporters of the current US President Donald Trump
    The Federal Bureau of Investigation was interested in a postcard that the head of FireEye, a company investigating a cyber attack on American departments and companies, received. According to Reuters, the special service is investigating whether this postcard could be connected with Russian intelligence. The postcard depicts a caricature with the text “Look, these are Russians ! " and "Putin did it!" According to the American intelligence services, the message was supposed to divert the attention of the company investigating the hacker attack.
    see https://ria.ru/20210112/kapitoliy-1592796549.html
    https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4641055?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop&nw=1610518826000
    https://x-true.info/106800-fbr-zainteresovalos-otkrytkoj-s-frazoj-jeto-sdelal-putin.html
  • Rafal Vahitov
    Rafal Vahitov 13 January 2021 10: 02
    +1
    We are waiting for the mysterious snipers, until they are all staged.
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 13 January 2021 18: 36
    0
    there are rumors that the top of the NSDAP knew about the future arson of the Reichstag, or rather provoked it, or, more precisely, produced it ...
    oh stop what am I doing, we're talking about SGA, huh ?! but what's the difference, the technique is the same, people are different
  • sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 13 January 2021 20: 20
    0
    But how could the "shop" controlled by the "democrats" afford to prevent "democratic" provocation "under a false flag"? Especially supported by such pillars of "freedom of speech" as Mordokniga and others like them!
  • tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 13 January 2021 20: 25
    0
    The USA is a country of stoned idiots, Sharpe is probably turning over in his grave.