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Retired Indian general: Russia is unlikely to support India in the war with China

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Indian military expert, retired brigadier general of the Indian army, Arun Bajpai, published a material that tells about the difficulties of the military-technical development of India. According to him, now the powers in the country are in power, "which do not know what war is." Because of this, updating the army and fleet conducted haphazardly, India does not know who to focus on cooperation with.


At the same time Bajpai declares that it is time to make a choice - with which external partner to conduct the main interaction on acquisition weapons and military equipment. The military expert says that the government of Narendra Modi is trying to "simultaneously communicate in this regard with both Russia and the United States."

From the post of a retired Indian general:

Today the government buys 70% of military equipment from Russia. But the rapprochement between Russia and China, which is our enemy, makes one think. You can also see that the government is trying to bias towards the United States. But Russia and the United States have an extremely difficult relationship. And now is the time to make a choice between these two countries - about future arms purchases and technology. Modi will no longer be able to walk on shaky ground like a rope pulled at a height.

The author notes that China is developing its armed forces, increasing its political and economic influence in the region, including influence on India's neighbors - Pakistan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka.

Author:

China imports 14% of Russian goods, India only 1,7%. Russia imports 22% of Chinese goods, Indian - only 1,6%. We need to take into account that Russia is unlikely to support India in the war with China, given its focus on eliminating American hegemony.

At the same time, the retired general notes that today it is difficult to wait for advanced weapons and even more technology from the United States. Therefore, the choice between Russia and the United States is extremely difficult.

As a result, Bajpai concludes that it is time for India to switch to its own developments and the development of its own technologies in the military-technical sphere. The statement is interesting, but the question is: where will India get these technologies? If we assume that when developing fifth-generation aircraft without cooperation, the Indian Air Force will receive such fighters no earlier than 2032 (when the same China will have hundreds of J-20s in service, and, possibly, newer aircraft and attack UAVs), then India risks in military-technical terms, it is hopeless to lag behind the country that the general called the "enemy."
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  1. dSK
    dSK 13 January 2021 07: 11
    +9
    In military-technical terms, India runs the risk of hopelessly lagging behind the country, which the general called the "enemy."
    Where does the wind blow from? If two "Buddhist" countries, India and China entered into a close alliance - this "monster", with a population of 3 billion, would have no equal. But the States really do not want this, they will do everything to embroil them ...
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 13 January 2021 07: 23
      +2
      They have a territorial conflict, nothing to do with America.
      1. dSK
        dSK 13 January 2021 07: 28
        +13
        And who is adding kerosene to this conflict? The states benefit from ANY war outside their territory, they are growing by leaps and bounds ...
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 13 January 2021 07: 38
          +6
          The best option for India is to make peace with China.
          Let them have disputed territories - that's what diplomats are for.
          These territories are lost to India. I have to admit it. Diplomats can have endless debates. If relations improve, sooner or later it is possible to agree on a "common zone of influence." China will do this. But only with a friendly country.
          1. syndicalist
            syndicalist 13 January 2021 07: 47
            -6
            Quote: Shurik70
            These territories are lost to India. I have to admit it.

            Then we also need to recognize the loss of territories that have been given to China for ASEZs and concessions. Where exclusively Chinese live and, in fact, Chinese laws apply.
            1. A009
              A009 13 January 2021 10: 24
              +4
              Give an example, please.
      2. nemez
        nemez 13 January 2021 07: 46
        -1
        Which can be solved without a war
    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 13 January 2021 07: 28
      +5
      Quote: dsk
      If two "Buddhist" countries, India and China entered into a close alliance - this "monster", with a population of 3 billion, would have no equal.

      yes Removed from the tongue.
      Russia with its population of 145 cannot act rashly against countries whose population is an order of magnitude higher.
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 13 January 2021 07: 31
      0
      Quote: dsk
      Where does the wind blow?

      Yes, everything is from the same place
    4. apro
      apro 13 January 2021 07: 35
      +5
      Quote: dsk
      If two "Buddhist" countries, India and China, entered into a close alliance

      On the basis of what ?? India still enters the orbit of the Anlo-Saxons ... and besides, it has too many internal contradictions. Not quite a single country. Torn apart from national .. and caste contradictions.
      1. nemez
        nemez 13 January 2021 07: 48
        -1
        Themselves to blame for this situation, behave like a simple @tutki.
    5. Moskovit
      Moskovit 13 January 2021 08: 09
      +4
      Which China is Buddhist? The Chinese are hard-core materialists, they are essentially Confucians, with some external communist tinge. Therefore, China will always be stronger than a sluggish India. On the other hand, India does not need anything from Russia, it does not claim our territories and resources. Therefore, it is better not to put eggs in one basket and develop relations with India. For all its poverty, the Indian market is huge. We are treated well.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 13 January 2021 08: 44
        +1
        Quote: Moskovit
        Which China is Buddhist?

        so India is not Buddhist - Hinduism is the main religion there hi
        1. Moskovit
          Moskovit 13 January 2021 09: 17
          0
          Buddhists and Hindus argue who is the chicken and who is the egg)). Religion leaves a huge imprint on the behavior of Indians. The Chinese only have minor superstitions. They don't care about the gods. This is from personal experience of communication and work with both parties.
          1. dmmyak40
            dmmyak40 13 January 2021 10: 22
            +2
            I completely agree. A long time ago I read an article by a former Foreign Ministry employee who worked in India. He wrote that India will never become a Great Power on the world stage. She will be a very important player, but nothing more. Unlike Russia, China, the United States, it has no desire for expansion, civilizational, like Russia, or aggressive, like the United States. They are "a thing in themselves", they cook inside their civilization.
      2. Quadro
        Quadro 13 January 2021 17: 23
        0
        Quote: Moskovit
        Which China is Buddhist? The Chinese are hard-core materialists, they are essentially Confucians, with some external communist tinge. Therefore, China will always be stronger than a sluggish India. On the other hand, India does not need anything from Russia, it does not claim our territories and resources. Therefore, it is better not to put eggs in one basket and develop relations with India. For all its poverty, the Indian market is huge. We are treated well.

        And where is China now claiming our resources and territories? Or again, fairy tales and attempts to issue a Taiwanese card with Chinese Siberia and two as proof that the PRC wants to take something?
        1. Moskovit
          Moskovit 13 January 2021 20: 54
          -1
          I do not comment on Taiwanese delirium. Yes, now China has no territorial claims to Russia, the only country from its neighbors. But knowing the Chinese, he worked there for a month before the pandemic, they definitely have such a plan. They are pragmatic people. They see a sparsely populated and rich Far East. As long as Russia has a strong central government and nuclear weapons, they are silent .... for now
    6. Flooding
      Flooding 13 January 2021 09: 06
      -1
      Quote: dsk
      If two "Buddhist" countries, India and China, entered into a close alliance

      "Buddhist" is in quotation marks.
      Apparently, from the understanding that India and China are not Buddhist.
      Then how is this phrase to be understood?
    7. Civil
      Civil 13 January 2021 10: 15
      0
      Yes, in general, Russia does not need to harness itself for anyone. No cash.
  2. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 13 January 2021 07: 14
    +3
    To urgently buy more equipment and SU 57 in Russia, otherwise the multi-vector will not bring good results smile
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 13 January 2021 07: 51
      +5
      Quote: Pessimist22
      To urgently buy more equipment and SU 57 in Russia, otherwise the multi-vector will not bring good results

      Colleague, at least we can do for ourselves, at least some decent amount.
    2. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 13 January 2021 08: 05
      +1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      To urgently buy more equipment and SU 57 in Russia, otherwise the multi-vector will not bring good results
      On VO checked in, urgently send a copy to the Indian Embassy! )))
    3. NDR-791
      NDR-791 13 January 2021 08: 18
      +2
      As a result, Bajpai concludes that it is time for India to switch to its own developments and the development of its own technologies in the military-technical sphere. The statement is interesting, but the question is: where will India get these technologies?
      In the same place where she lost. Almost half of the people in Silicon Valley are Indians. In general, India has the same trick as ours - widespread poverty. That's why they run to work anywhere. For ourselves, we do not want to hold such a resource by the pants by all means.
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 13 January 2021 07: 16
    +4
    Is there no hope for internal Indian forces? The country must rally together in the face of the enemy, an external ally is good only if the whole of India lives as a single whole mechanism. And how much you bought, your ministry is guilty, arguing like a huckster in the market for a friend, even a reliable partner capable of supporting in case of war, you will not find. Moreover, the Anglo-Saxons do not need you, they need something from you, like, for a start, to squeeze Russia out of your arms market. But, from the fact that the Yankees sell you a bunch of weapons, friends, and even close partners, you will never become with them! They want to dominate the world alone, they need a submissive India, not a strong and independent one.
  4. Graz
    Graz 13 January 2021 07: 21
    +5
    interesting friends, why do we have to support someone from a pair of India, China in their war?
    these nuclear powers have the brains to start a war over a couple of mountain passes, is it worth it?
    As for technical cooperation, so India itself refuses it and leaves joint projects, who is their doctor, they think that the Americans will offer them the most modern technologies for reproduction in Indian territory, the flag is in their hands, a drum of their necks?

    They think that the United States will fit on an equal footing with them in a possible war with China and send its soldiers, well, let them dream further.
    Strange people, all others would fight for them and give technology for free, and they would sing and dance Indian dances
  5. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 13 January 2021 07: 27
    +2
    The general is right, Russia will not fit in with India. China for Russia is the most important neighbor with a common border and the most important trading partner. In addition, China, like Russia, has complicated relations with the United States and Japan. China is not an ally for Russia, but not an enemy, it is a neutral, benevolent country. And India ... Well, India ... India for Russia has the same meaning as Indonesia and Brazil, that is, practically none.
    1. Graz
      Graz 13 January 2021 08: 08
      +4
      let's go from another. if, hypothetically, China attacks Russia, India will fight immediately against China? 99% that won't, right?
      perhaps in this case, he will either finish off China if it becomes very weak at the end of the war or joins the victor of China at the very end.
      So why would we then support a suicidal war between two nuclear powers from both sides?
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 13 January 2021 08: 27
        +1
        China will never attack Russia, the Chinese are not crazy to attack a country with nuclear weapons. Anyway, there is simply no point in attacking Russia for China, since there is no reason for war. China and Russia have no territorial claims, no confrontation in ideological terms, China has the same strategic enemies, both countries successfully trade with each other for mutual benefit. And what will China get from Russia? Pieces of frozen land in the Far East? China cannot even master its western territories, and there the climate there is much milder than the climate of the Far East and Siberia.
  6. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 13 January 2021 07: 29
    +5
    Taking into account the fact that the Russian economy is almost entirely dependent on Chinese goods (1st place in the trade turnover of the Russian Federation), we cannot afford to have a snack with China at all. All the more so in other people's showdowns.
  7. Pavel73
    Pavel73 13 January 2021 07: 36
    +3
    Of course, Russia will not support India in the war with China. As well as China in the war with India. Russia has a different goal: not only to prevent this war, but to do everything possible and in our power so that India and China are not enemies.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 13 January 2021 07: 48
      +3
      Quote: Pavel73
      Retired Indian general: Russia is unlikely to support India in the war with China

      the thought flashed: a hypotheticallyWho will support Russia if we have a war with one or the other? it is beneficial to both. bully
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 January 2021 07: 37
    +3
    it is time to make a choice between these two countries - about future arms purchases
    The time has come long ago, but only the will and courage are not enough to solve this delicate issue. Therefore, they are rushing about, bargaining, abandoning previously concluded contracts (joint development).
    Russia is unlikely to support India in the war with China
    And why should Russia have to support one of the parties in the war unleashed by them? Untie yourself, yourself and reap the results of stupid politics.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 13 January 2021 10: 12
      0
      Tashkent has not been part of the USSR for a long time - there is no place to invite to negotiations for an armistice, except Kazan or Astrakhat with Ufa
  9. rocket757
    rocket757 13 January 2021 07: 46
    +1
    Retired Indian general: Russia is unlikely to support India in the war with China

    And what Russia should / can say, besides - "guys, don't quarrel !!! None of you will benefit from this! ......
  10. steelmaker
    steelmaker 13 January 2021 07: 57
    0
    So Russia and China will not support. It's up to you - figure it out for yourself.
  11. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 13 January 2021 08: 00
    +1
    Getting technology from the US? Has this general already fallen into insanity? Although technologies of the level of WW2, they can get it.
  12. YOUR
    YOUR 13 January 2021 08: 37
    -1
    Why do we need to support one of the parties? Fight for health.
    As was the case with Iran and Iraq, they kneaded each other, and we sold weapons to both.
    As they say, only business, nothing personal.
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 13 January 2021 08: 39
    0
    India does not need to make sudden moves. If the choice falls on the United States, the Americans will do everything to make us enemies. And this is a completely different alignment.
  14. Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 13 January 2021 09: 10
    +1
    recourse request This is where the title comes from ...:Retired Indian general: Russia is unlikely to support India in the war with China... The Russian bear watching the gnawing of the Indian monkey and the Chinese dragon will try to hug and rub them with their noses.
  15. svp67
    svp67 13 January 2021 09: 24
    0
    It's a strange look, after all, whatever one may say, but it is a strong India that is very beneficial to Russia, as a counterweight to the strengthening of China.
    But the most important thing is that now neither Russia nor China needs a war with India, but it seems that a war, a victorious war, is more and more needed by India and still against whom.
  16. sleeve
    sleeve 13 January 2021 09: 58
    +1
    Well, why not? Suppose that the exact same rate is made on India in economic terms, as on the PRC in the mid-80s of the last century? To grow with "empty" investments exactly the same "little dragon" (the potential is practically the same and the starting positions regarding the poverty of the population are the same). The world is "overloaded" by China alone. A crisis is inevitable if the task is "fulfilled", since the consumer market of the West will turn to India (due to the "absolute free self-regulation of the market"). Conflict? Yeah. Inevitable. Now, if the principle of "pushing the locomotives while they are teapots" will be adopted by the PRC, or a little later, when "self-regulation" begins to prove to not very dodgy Chinese that the figures of GDP and "national welfare" are not at all the main thing in life.
    And we? It is the peaceful coexistence of this "duet" that is beneficial to us. The Indian "expert" is slightly mistaken. If in your favorite dollar equivalent, then the figures for import and export are not particularly "bad" exactly because of the manufacturability of the "wrapped" product. You know, you need to change guns for medicines. If these two local "superpowers" clash, what are we going to do? Pakistan will support the PRC and India, the end will come abrupt and quick as the war goes nuclear. And no one will crawl under the arm, do not hope for this while Hindustan will be turned into a nuclear desert. The global economy will collapse, but ... for a while. Some debts will be nullified, some indirect reparations will be "announced." The empty world state will get rid of the bubble and sag in terms of "real economic production" (a pogrom at two factories at once). And ... it will be in the next stage when you can again accelerate the already familiar steam locomotive of the existing system. Profitable. Sorry not for us. The question is when?
  17. Growlers
    Growlers 13 January 2021 10: 06
    0
    That India, that China's "allies" are still the same ...... However, any ally, an ally exactly as long as it benefits
  18. FIN
    FIN 13 January 2021 11: 49
    -1
    Well, yes, yes ...
    Armenia has already supported it.
  19. Umalta
    Umalta 13 January 2021 12: 38
    0
    Fools would long ago solve this issue amicably
  20. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 14 January 2021 07: 12
    0
    Your own fault. Your dancing around joint projects and the dead will get you. Well, what did you not like SU-57.? No one will offer you the best. Dance with Rafals. For the second decade you have been creating your own tank. At the exit, it’s such squalor that you cannot call a language a tank. We admit that you are Hindus, you are stupid, lazy and not curious. You want to have everything at once. Do not blame the mirror.
  21. Vsevolod Sidorov
    Vsevolod Sidorov 14 January 2021 16: 20
    0
    So we will not support China in this war either, because why do we need this war?