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UAV "Okhotnik" for the first time carried out bombing

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UAV "Okhotnik" for the first time carried out bombing

It became known about the use of weapons by the heavy attack drone "Hunter" of the S-70 project during the tests.


According to the information service RIA News, a new phase of flight tests of the Russian attack drone was carried out at the Ashuluk test site. There the Hunter dropped an unguided aerial bomb from the fuselage compartment.

According to some reports, we are talking about bombing with the use of FAB-500.

The interlocutor of the named agency announced the defeat of the target at the Ashuluk training ground with high accuracy. At the same time, the specific date of this kind of flight tests of the newest Russian strike drone was not named.

It is especially noted that the drone is equipped with a modern FPK (sighting and navigation system), which makes it possible for unguided gravitational weapons (freely falling bombs) to approach in accuracy and efficiency to guided combat weapons aviation - high-precision arms... In this case, target designation is carried out in the air.

The drop of a 500 kg bomb was the first bombing carried out by the Russian UAV Okhotnik.

The targets of the "Hunter" on the ground can be both stationary targets and those that are in motion at a low speed.

Earlier it was reported that the UAV "Okhotnik" also has the functionality of an interceptor - it is capable of carrying air-to-air missiles. This message sparked active discussion in a number of foreign media on military topics, indicating that "the Russians are turning a heavy drone into a multipurpose vehicle capable of actively interacting with the 5th generation Su-57 fighters."
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  1. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 12 January 2021 06: 17
    +2
    UAV "Okhotnik" for the first time carried out bombing
    the photo is traditionally very old, with a prototype.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 12 January 2021 06: 24
      10
      The UAV has already dropped the bonbu ...
      1. Profiler
        Profiler 12 January 2021 06: 31
        20
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        The UAV has already dropped the bonbu ...

        Central и key definition - OUR UAV.

        And as parting words to the "Hunter", I would also like to wish that he had in his arsenal and could also use not only conventional, unguided free-fall bombs, but also their "gliding" high-precision versions, as well as a set of early designation and caliber of high-precision ammunition (rockets ) allowing to massively hit targets without entering the enemy's air defense zone.
        1. Malyuta
          Malyuta 12 January 2021 07: 28
          22
          Quote: Profiler
          The central and key definition is OUR UAV.

          Interesting tons of bombs the Hunter can take on board?
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 12 January 2021 10: 52
            +1
            Bombs, okay, it's much more interesting what about the interceptor .. If this thing can hunt enemy drones by itself, it will be more useful and trickier than any bombing.
          2. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis 12 January 2021 22: 38
            -3
            Quote: Malyuta
            Quote: Profiler
            The central and key definition is OUR UAV.

            Interesting tons of bombs the Hunter can take on board?

            Stsar Bonbu will throw at the commieberda!
        2. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 12 January 2021 13: 24
          +4
          "... not only ordinary, unguided free-fall bombs, but also their" gliding "high-precision versions
          ..."
          - the highlight of the Russian approach is that cheap "ordinary bonbs", which are stored in warehouses - IMMEDIATELY (!) - thanks to the latest bombing control system - acquire an accuracy of destruction - indistinguishable from the accuracy of destruction of expensive "gliding" ammunition ..
          8-))
          - look at the chronicle - "barmaley" in Syria was smashed to pieces - ordinary bonbs, but only "put" them - in the very top of the head ...
          1. Klingon
            Klingon 12 January 2021 17: 22
            +2
            just wanted to write almost the same thing, but you turned out to be faster drinks An approach in the style of the Russian military-industrial complex - why create expensive ammunition with features like Glonass / GPS / APHAR and all this is as if every one-time, when you can make a cool reusable aiming system and use it to throw cheap ammunition with high accuracy. It is, as it were, by analogy: you can make smart "stones" with IKGSN and correction micromotors, etc. all this will be expensive and disposable, or you can put on a radar and a ballistic computer on a slingshot and throw ordinary pebbles with the same result
            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 13 January 2021 01: 26
              +1
              The bombing system is called: SVP-24 "Gefest" - aviation sighting and navigation system
        3. ism_ek
          ism_ek 12 January 2021 20: 14
          +1
          The task of the UAV is precisely to enter the enemy's air defense zone.
      2. pmkemcity
        pmkemcity 12 January 2021 06: 53
        35 th
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        The UAV has already dropped the bonbu ...

        It's like carrying potatoes in the trunk on a "Merina".
        1. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz 12 January 2021 07: 43
          14
          And you think that they do not carry?
          In general, an empty volume is an empty volume. What there is a NECESSITY to fill, that is what they will fill. There will be a need and the potatoes will be suspended if it is (theoretically) justified.
          1. barclay
            barclay 12 January 2021 09: 17
            +8
            Yes! 500 kg of potatoes by parachute to anywhere in the world ...
            1. pmkemcity
              pmkemcity 12 January 2021 09: 48
              -1
              Quote: barclay
              Yes! 500 kg of potatoes by parachute to anywhere in the world ...

              It is necessary to the Old Man.
              1. Eragon
                Eragon 12 January 2021 10: 00
                +4
                Quote: pmkemcity
                Quote: barclay
                Yes! 500 kg of potatoes by parachute to anywhere in the world ...

                It is necessary to the Old Man.

                There is one. We would have 500 kg of money, or better a full load.
                1. pmkemcity
                  pmkemcity 12 January 2021 10: 02
                  -7
                  Quote: Eragon
                  We would have 500 kg of money, or better a full load.

                  Now! They will drop "full load" on Stepanakert ...
          2. Alien From
            Alien From 12 January 2021 10: 55
            0
            The main thing is not to have a cow like in "Features" laughing then it was a shame!
        2. Viktor Sergeev
          Viktor Sergeev 12 January 2021 08: 14
          +2
          Why not? How much does a rocket and a bomb cost? In your opinion, why does the Hunter create an "invisibility" profile? The missiles can also be fired from conventional drones without entering the air defense zone.
          1. pmkemcity
            pmkemcity 12 January 2021 09: 55
            -7
            Quote: Victor Sergeev
            Why does the Hunter create an "invisibility" profile?

            Close one eye with your palm ...
            1. Viktor Sergeev
              Viktor Sergeev 13 January 2021 08: 01
              0
              Well, why are you doing this?
              1. pmkemcity
                pmkemcity 13 January 2021 09: 30
                -1
                Quote: Victor Sergeev
                Well, why are you doing this?

                Create an "invisibility profile". drinks Happy New Year!
        3. Olkhovsky
          Olkhovsky 12 January 2021 08: 56
          18
          How do you get watermelons out of the trunk of a Porsche?
          1. pmkemcity
            pmkemcity 12 January 2021 09: 49
            0
            Quote: Olkhovsky
            How do you get watermelons out of the trunk of a Porsche?

            Do you think that there are "bones" in those watermelons?
          2. Airdefense
            Airdefense 12 January 2021 15: 05
            +1
            Well, if one of the watermelons had a "special load", then why not.
        4. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 12 January 2021 13: 26
          +4
          "...
          It's like carrying potatoes in the trunk on a "Merina".
          ..."
          - but what kind of "gelding" is it, if it is NOT POSSIBLE to carry it - even potatoes (!)
          8-))
        5. Dart2027
          Dart2027 12 January 2021 19: 23
          -1
          Quote: pmkemcity
          It's like potatoes on the "Merina"

          That is, in principle, there is nothing to say?
      3. Grits
        Grits 12 January 2021 08: 49
        0
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        The UAV has already dropped the bonbu ...

        Although cast iron, but still ...
        1. pmkemcity
          pmkemcity 12 January 2021 10: 03
          +3
          Quote: Gritsa
          Although cast iron, but still ...

          We plant aluminum cucumbers on a canvas field. (Tsoi is alive!)
      4. raw174
        raw174 12 January 2021 18: 35
        +2
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        The UAV has already dropped the bonbu ...

        It certainly pleases, it's bad that this UAV and SU-57 in the troops, in more or less noticeable quantities, will not be seen very soon ...
    2. smart ass
      smart ass 12 January 2021 08: 37
      -4
      500 kg is not too much for an uav?
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 12 January 2021 08: 48
        +4
        Quote: Clever man
        500 kg is not too much for an uav?

        For the Russian just right! wink And if the bomb is still guided or gliding, then very good! good
        Harness for a long time, but drive fast! drinks
        1. smart ass
          smart ass 12 January 2021 13: 56
          +2
          I mean, it's not better to carry 500 5kg guided missiles with 100kg of landmines ?!
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 12 January 2021 19: 24
            0
            Perhaps there will be such an option.
          2. engineer74
            engineer74 12 January 2021 19: 41
            +2
            I am with both hands for high-precision means of destruction, but for some reason I always remember the anecdote:
            "D'artagnan says to the Musketeers:
            - Mark with Ilya Muromets a point on the chest with chalk - I will pierce him with my sword there.
            Then Ilya Muromets Alesha says:
            - Olesha Popovich, sprinkle him with chalk - I'll hit him with a club ...! "
      2. Simargl
        Simargl 12 January 2021 09: 20
        -1
        Quote: Clever man
        500 kg is not too much for an uav?
        The takeoff weight is under 30 tons. Taking into account the fuel supply, he should take these FAB-500 from 5 to 15 pieces on board.
        1. Alex_You
          Alex_You 12 January 2021 09: 27
          +8
          Quote: Simargl
          Quote: Clever man
          500 kg is not too much for an uav?
          The takeoff weight is under 30 tons. Taking into account the fuel supply, he should take these FAB-500 from 5 to 15 pieces on board.

          Where 15 of them fit, two well, four, the ceiling.
          1. akropin
            akropin 12 January 2021 09: 34
            +5
            Even 4 FAB-500 in the trunk is almost 1200 kg in TNT equivalent. If you need to make a gap in the defense or extinguish the ardor of the attackers, then this is a very weighty argument.
            1. lucul
              lucul 12 January 2021 10: 43
              +1
              Even 4 FAB-500 in the trunk is almost 1200 kg in TNT equivalent. If you need to make a gap in the defense or extinguish the ardor of the attackers, then this is a very weighty argument.

              Nah))))
              The best option is an air defense / missile defense radar)))
            2. smart ass
              smart ass 12 January 2021 13: 57
              0
              How did 1fab become 4?
              1. akropin
                akropin 12 January 2021 15: 35
                +1
                It was a comment on the phrase
                Where 15 of them fit, two well, four, the ceiling.
          2. Sergey Valov
            Sergey Valov 12 January 2021 10: 53
            0
            The issue is not volume, but weight.
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 12 January 2021 09: 44
      +6
      Quote: Aerodrome
      the photo is traditionally very old, with a prototype.

      Our MO does not want to shine. And he does the right thing. If bombing is a fact, then I am very glad.
  2. Sofa expert
    Sofa expert 12 January 2021 06: 22
    -2
    Good car! The main thing is to bring it to mind.
    Who in the world has such machines?
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 12 January 2021 06: 32
      -2
      Before asking stupid questions, just google it.
    2. novel66
      novel66 12 January 2021 07: 06
      +6
      and even with missiles "Hellfire" ... probably no one
      1. Charik
        Charik 12 January 2021 14: 24
        +1
        And even with GBU, they don't have the same
    3. Insurgent
      Insurgent 12 January 2021 08: 39
      +7
      Quote: Sofa Expert
      Who in the world has such machines?

      On the arms - so far no one. But this is YET.
      Practically with Russia, what is called "head to head" is something similar, in a similar concept the Americans are experiencing.

      And there are plenty of other UAVs, not as smart as the Hunter.

      Here, for example, the Chinese rolled out a working version of the new heavy reconnaissance and strike UAV WJ-700 for testing. It was announced in the fall of 2018.
      The other day it made its first flight, and it should enter service in 2023-2024.
      Among the declared characteristics are:

      - Weight - 3500 kg
      - Flight duration - 20 hours
      - Actions at high altitudes, autonomous landing, the presence of air-to-ground missiles, stealth coverage.


      Among the intended tasks are reconnaissance, early detection of targets, jamming, strikes against mobile control stations, radar stations, armored vehicles and troop concentrations, strikes against flood targets.

      Although outwardly it looks almost like a clone of the American strategic unmanned reconnaissance aircraft RQ-4 Global Hawk, there are suggestions that the Chinese did not limit themselves to blind copying (imitation), but introduced something of their own, new, into the design of the UAV, which should significantly surpass the prototype in terms of characteristics.





      1. Kart
        Kart 12 January 2021 09: 33
        +5
        Quote: Insurgent
        there are suggestions that the Chinese did not limit themselves to blind copying (imitation), but introduced something of their own, new, into the design of the UAV, which should significantly surpass the prototype in terms of characteristics.

        Added FM radio and flashlight?
        The most they could do was to simplify the design, according to tradition.
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 12 January 2021 09: 53
          -5
          Quote: Carte
          Added FM radio and flashlight?

          Ability to connect to 5G networks.
          1. An K-s
            An K-s 12 January 2021 10: 01
            +6
            Excuse me, can I install two SIM cards there? ))))))))))
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 12 January 2021 10: 08
              +1
              Quote: An K-s
              Excuse me, can I install two SIM cards there?

              You can, but to work, you have to wait for the release of the global firmware.
      2. Simargl
        Simargl 12 January 2021 11: 11
        +2
        Quote: Insurgent
        Among the declared characteristics are:
        - Weight - 3500 kg
        How to take it as a combat load for the "Hunter"?
      3. bar
        bar 12 January 2021 13: 57
        +3
        Quote: Insurgent
        stealth coating

        This tailed product will not be made with stealth in principle, even if you paint it in three layers.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 12 January 2021 20: 56
          -1
          Quote: bar
          Quote: Insurgent
          stealth coating

          This tailed product will not be made with stealth in principle, even if you paint it in three layers.

          Yes, the exhaust pipe clearly failed))))
  3. Konnick
    Konnick 12 January 2021 06: 25
    +2
    Our gentlemen take their word for it ... no photos, no videos. Just news from Lenta.Ru. In fact, the Ashuluk test site is not intended for bombing, but for testing anti-aircraft missiles and complexes. How to understand this? There is a bombing range near Borisoglebsk, also at Cape Chauda, ​​in the Crimea, which I know. An interesting case, someone does not finish speaking.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 12 January 2021 06: 37
      +3
      Quote: Konnick
      In fact, the Ashuluk test site is not intended for bombing, but for testing anti-aircraft missiles and complexes. How to understand this?

      in terms of its location, Ashuluk is less "scanned" by foreign intelligence, therefore, "secrets" are being tested there.
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 12 January 2021 06: 44
        +6
        Is Ashuluk less viewed? Those. the border region of Russia allows better testing of secret weapons than the Voronezh region ... thought about it.
        1. bar
          bar 12 January 2021 07: 30
          +4
          Quote: Konnick
          the border region of Russia allows for better testing of secret weapons than the Voronezh region ...

          It depends with whom the borderline
          1. Temples
            Temples 12 January 2021 13: 06
            +2
            Quote: Konnick
            In fact, the Ashuluk range is not intended for bombing.

            Quote: Konnick
            the border region of Russia allows better testing of secret weapons than the Voronezh region ... thought about it.

            The hunter probably took off from Akhtubinsk.
            "Shot" nearby in Ashuluk.
            There is no point in driving the Hunter to Voronezh.
            I think so. wink
    2. Ka-52
      Ka-52 12 January 2021 06: 39
      13
      In fact, the Ashuluk test site is not intended for bombing, but for testing anti-aircraft missiles and complexes.

      oh well, talk)) Ashuluk is just departmental under the air defense, and nothing prevents from firing and bombing there. This has been done repeatedly. And the Hunter will have enough of the local runway for takeoff and landing.
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 12 January 2021 06: 42
        +2
        There is an excellent runway near Akhtuba.
        1. Ka-52
          Ka-52 12 January 2021 06: 47
          +4
          I do not argue, just from there to the 200 km zone.
          1. Sergey Valov
            Sergey Valov 12 January 2021 11: 33
            0
            What is 200 km with a radius of several thousand? And most importantly, for operation at the new airfield, a lot of equipment and people serving it will have to be transferred there.
            1. Ka-52
              Ka-52 12 January 2021 12: 40
              0
              What is 200 km with a radius of several thousand? And most importantly, for operation at the new airfield, a lot of equipment and people serving it will have to be transferred there.

              if you talk like you, then the tests should have been carried out at some sort of Yurginsky test site. This is the point closest to Novosibirsk. There is no difference between the Akhtuba airfield and the Ashuluk airfield from a service point of view. Everything is there at Ashuluk - target planes are launched there.
              1. Sergey Valov
                Sergey Valov 12 January 2021 12: 44
                0
                Do not understand why? belay On the contrary, I think that everything is done optimally.
                1. Ka-52
                  Ka-52 12 January 2021 12: 55
                  0
                  then I apologize, I did not quite understand your point what
    3. Hagen
      Hagen 12 January 2021 06: 49
      +6
      Quote: Konnick
      How to understand this?

      Obviously, after Karabakh, attempts may be made to work out ways to clear the airspace from enemy strike UAVs. They just do not strive to upload everything to the public space. But Ukrainians dreaming of applying Azerbaijan's experience with Bayraktar in Donbass should think about it. Still, each "Turk" pulls five lemons with greens, but for any air defense system it is not a difficult target.
    4. Grits
      Grits 12 January 2021 08: 55
      +3
      Quote: Konnick
      In fact, the Ashuluk test site is not intended for bombing, but for testing anti-aircraft missiles and complexes. How to understand this?

      So he trained to bomb anti-aircraft complexes smile
    5. kenig1
      kenig1 12 January 2021 09: 00
      +1
      You are behind the times. For the Caucasus 2020, the main stage was carried out at this site.
    6. common man
      common man 12 January 2021 09: 16
      +1
      Quote: Konnick
      In fact, the Ashuluk test site is not intended for bombing, but for testing anti-aircraft missiles and complexes. How to understand this?

      Maybe simultaneously with the tests of the "Hunter" they are experiencing anti-aircraft defense? Then Ashuluk is logical.
  4. dmmyak40
    dmmyak40 12 January 2021 06: 32
    +7
    New weapon - gravity bomb?
    1. Profiler
      Profiler 12 January 2021 06: 36
      +2
      Quote: dmmyak40
      New weapon - gravity bomb?

      laughing
      They say also "Jumping"there is (rubber), but it is very secret yes
    2. novel66
      novel66 12 January 2021 07: 07
      +2
      incorrect spelling, more correctly - "gravitationally controlled" lol
    3. Grits
      Grits 12 January 2021 08: 57
      +1
      Quote: dmmyak40
      New weapon - gravity bomb?

      Well, if it falls, then it already means gravitational
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 12 January 2021 07: 18
    -8
    What will be the next news - that the C70 has already dropped two bombs? It should hit targets massively with missiles without entering the air defense zone of a potential enemy, it should have also drowned some old steamer with missiles, while the target should have moved, and not in a straight line! And here, the fact of the usual dropping of ONE bomb is passed off as a sensation on a global scale!
    1. bar
      bar 12 January 2021 07: 34
      +9
      Quote: Thrifty
      And here, the fact of the usual dropping of ONE bomb is passed off as a sensation on a global scale!

      Who claims to be a sensation? They just report the event. And yes, it is quite Russian in scale.
    2. Eragon
      Eragon 12 January 2021 07: 35
      +3
      Quote: Thrifty
      What will be the next news - that the C70 has already dropped two bombs? It should hit targets massively with missiles without entering the air defense zone of a potential enemy, it should have also drowned some old steamer with missiles, while the target should have moved, and not in a straight line! And here, the fact of the usual dropping of ONE bomb is passed off as a sensation on a global scale!

      The article simply cites the fact that the bomb was dropped. Here is the appropriate reaction - so what. It's as if in August 1945 it was reported: the Americans dropped a bomb on Hiroshima. But you never know they threw them.
      So it is here. If by target designation, backlit, etc., then the information is about nothing. And if only the area is indicated, and then the UAV found the target itself, took aim and hit - this is much more interesting.
      1. Charik
        Charik 12 January 2021 08: 01
        +1
        But isn't the UAV controlled by the operator? And it points to itself and the target and gives backlight, how is it? The bomb is not laser and not TV. I think the usual bombing, such as "under the hood" from horizontal flight through a TV sight with the calculation of reset-electronics-is possible is it?
        1. Bez 310
          Bez 310 12 January 2021 08: 15
          +4
          Quote: Charik
          I think the usual bombing, such as "under the hood" from horizontal flight through a TV sight with the calculation of reset-electronics

          Well ... you are ...
          Remember about "Hephaestus", and everything will be clear.
          1. Charik
            Charik 12 January 2021 08: 26
            -1
            and I'm not really aware of the characteristics of Hephaestus
            1. Bez 310
              Bez 310 12 January 2021 08: 35
              0
              Quote: Charik
              and I don't really know

              Then don't remember ...
              In general, the possibility has been realized for a very long time
              work with bombs on an invisible target, for this you need
              just know its coordinates.
              1. Charik
                Charik 12 January 2021 08: 38
                -3
                Free-falling on known coordinates?
                1. OgnennyiKotik
                  OgnennyiKotik 12 January 2021 08: 50
                  +1
                  KVO how lucky, but 300 kg of explosives will neutralize it.
                2. Bez 310
                  Bez 310 12 January 2021 09: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: Charik
                  Free-falling on known coordinates?

                  It all depends on the accuracy of the aiming and navigation
                  complex (PrNA). In general, everything new is long forgotten old.
                  About the "bull's-eye". Modern "scopes" are made with such
                  "assumptions" that it is impossible to hit the target. But I myself
                  saw a "cast iron" bomb entering the target ship's pipe.
              2. Charik
                Charik 12 January 2021 08: 47
                +1
                It is necessary to calculate both the flight range of the cast iron and a bunch of other characteristics, and probably some kind of plumage should be in order to maintain the bomb in the desired position in flight, so that it does not deviate, this is the onboard computer-does this? Okay KAB-I understand both TV correction and software La zeru TsU or ZHPS coordinates - so etozh a cast iron with explosives, how to drive it into the window is unclear. Progress does not stand still, the technique has reached what it has reached.
        2. Eragon
          Eragon 12 January 2021 09: 58
          +2
          Quote: Charik
          But isn't the UAV controlled by the operator? And it points to itself and the target and gives backlight, how is it? The bomb is not laser and not TV. I think the usual bombing, such as "under the hood" from horizontal flight through a TV sight with the calculation of reset-electronics-is possible is it?

          Maybe the operator is controlled, and maybe his own "brains". Maybe the target was highlighted, or maybe the task was given "fly there, find this, as you find it - destroy it." The article is not informative, just dropped the bomb. How did you fly? Who was in charge? How did you throw it?
          1. Sergey Valov
            Sergey Valov 12 January 2021 11: 01
            0
            "And maybe with their" brains "." - such a device cannot be controlled by its brains, if only because an accident that is not foreseen in the "brains", such as a thundercloud or past a flying plane, is quite capable of ditching this device, and this is even the worst option.
            1. Eragon
              Eragon 12 January 2021 12: 07
              +6
              Quote: Sergey Valov
              "And maybe with their" brains "." - such a device cannot be controlled by its brains, if only because an accident that is not foreseen in the "brains", such as a thundercloud or past a flying plane, is quite capable of ditching this device, and this is even the worst option.

              During the first and last test of "Buran" there was a nervous, but indicative, not even an incident, but an action. "Buran" is landing, the whole commission looks in the direction from which it should land, but it is not. And the time is up. Panic begins, but then "Buran" comes in for landing ... from the other side. The direction of the wind changed, the automatics assessed the situation and started the landing craft from the other side. The device was more expensive.
              1. Sergey Valov
                Sergey Valov 12 January 2021 12: 24
                0
                Thanks for the example. But you must perfectly understand the difference between the possible variants of flight missions and their number of Buran and Hunter, especially since Buran was planned to be operated in a manned version anyway.
                1. Eragon
                  Eragon 12 January 2021 14: 05
                  +6
                  Quote: Sergey Valov
                  But you must perfectly understand the difference between the possible options for flight missions and their number of Buran and Hunter.

                  Of course there is a huge difference. But the year is now not 1989, but 2021, I generally keep quiet about computers and various sensors.
                  Quote: Sergey Valov
                  Moreover, Buran was planned to be operated in a manned version anyway.

                  But this is not entirely true. The automatic mode was developed as a standard one.
                  In the 70s and 80s, my father was engaged in rocket automation, sometimes, after awards, he would tell something, including something that is not even said now. Take my word for it, what they say in the public domain about "Buran" does not tell anything. The tasks and goals were completely different.
                  More interesting. It was necessary to make automation for something cruise missile. Reconnaissance got hold of the enemy's control unit, but bad luck, it was impossible to repeat it on the Soviet element base, the size of the resulting unit did not fit into the rocket. After a long thought, they decided to replace electronics with mechanics. As a result, a block with gears, a winding key and an album with something like punched cards was born. One punch card per target. I do not know how and what flew with such control, but two things are indisputable - my father received an award for the successful completion of the assignment and such a rocket wanted to spit on all the electronic warfare. There are no "brains", only gears.
                  1. Sergey Valov
                    Sergey Valov 12 January 2021 16: 10
                    +2
                    I also heard about Buran first-hand - a friend made it at TMZ, one relative of the instrumentation designed it, the other software (exactly that software) was engaged in. Even I have been writing programs for processing heat-shielding tiles for several months. And I had to visit TMZ in those days. By the way, a friend said that he personally participated in the manufacture of almost 20 bow parts, including the cockpit, of Buran.
                    “The automatic mode was developed as a standard one” - I have not heard anything about this, but I dare not doubt your words.
                    1. Titus_2
                      Titus_2 12 January 2021 18: 48
                      0
                      So 2 more (software) was written in different offices.
              2. The eye of the crying
                The eye of the crying 12 January 2021 22: 02
                0
                Quote: Eragon
                Panic begins, but then "Buran" comes in to land ... from the other side.


                Tales. Buran did not have a speed reserve for such maneuvers.
            2. The eye of the crying
              The eye of the crying 12 January 2021 12: 24
              +1
              Quote: Sergey Valov
              such a device cannot be controlled by its brains


              The X-47B was controlled.

              Quote: Sergey Valov
              an accident that was not foreseen in the "brains", such as a thundercloud or past a flying plane, is quite capable of destroying this device


              Why do you think that the brain designers did not foresee the "randomness" that are obvious even to you?
              1. Sergey Valov
                Sergey Valov 12 January 2021 12: 42
                +1
                https://texnomaniya.ru/voennaya-texnika/bespilotnik-kh-47v-provalil-poslednee-ispitanie.html - посмотрите здесь про самодостаточность программного обеспечения и наличие радиоуправления данного аппарата.
                I am not a drone software developer, I am just an engineer with 20 years of experience in testing and I know that you can only foresee what has been previously encountered and explained. And this is for individual factors, but almost always there is a multifactorial process with varying degrees of influence of factors and their different composition. They don't know how to predict the weather for a period of more than a day, but what experience has been accumulated, what computers are used.
                1. The eye of the crying
                  The eye of the crying 12 January 2021 12: 56
                  +1
                  Quote: Sergey Valov
                  https://texnomaniya.ru/voennaya-texnika/bespilotnik-kh-47v-provalil-poslednee-ispitanie.html - посмотрите здесь про самодостаточность программного обеспечения и наличие радиоуправления данного аппарата


                  Published on: 2013-07-21 refers to material that is no longer on the web. And so - probably, there were problems during the tests, nothing surprising.

                  Quote: Sergey Valov
                  they do not know how to predict the weather for a period of more than a day


                  In the garden elder ...
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 12 January 2021 07: 50
      +5
      Why should he do something at all? Do you already know its conceptual purpose?) But in fact it is being prepared as a platform for any tasks, judging by this news.
  6. Charik
    Charik 12 January 2021 07: 24
    -1
    oh well, why was it possible?
  7. Tuzik
    Tuzik 12 January 2021 07: 45
    0
    500 kg, very good caliber, I wonder what full load the hunter has
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 12 January 2021 08: 17
      +1
      2,8 tons maximum
  8. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 12 January 2021 07: 46
    +6
    Quote: Thrifty
    What will be the next news - that the C70 has already dropped two bombs? It should hit targets massively with missiles without entering the air defense zone of a potential enemy, it should have also drowned some old steamer with missiles, while the target should have moved, and not in a straight line! And here, the fact of the usual dropping of ONE bomb is passed off as a sensation on a global scale!


    Your "frugality" has no boundaries of reason. Systematic work is underway to transition to the 6th generation aircraft, respectively, the Hunter is being paired with different types of weapons. This is not for you to play war games on simulators. Two years ago, GDP warned the West that they would be surprised by Russia's new weapon. The defense of the Russian Federation works primarily for the defense of its country, and not for the enrichment of individual corporations, where the principle is that it quickly slapped and snatched vassals. And no one gives out the fact of testing as a "world-wide sensation"! It is your imagination, fueled by handouts from over the hill, so painfully perceives reality. laughing
  9. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 12 January 2021 08: 01
    -1
    FAB500 is an impressive thing ... When it falls on a building, it causes decent destruction ... impressive. As ISIS people say, getting under her blow ... Alla, I'm in the bar. And together with the Hunter, such a tandem is a very cheap and effective instrument of war ... Enough for all terrorists.
  10. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 12 January 2021 08: 09
    -2
    Interestingly, a whole Stealth UAV and again a "cast-iron" bomb? Why then did Stealth get confused?
  11. steelmaker
    steelmaker 12 January 2021 08: 31
    +3
    "The UAV" Okhotnik "also has the functionality of an interceptor - it is capable of carrying air-to-air missiles."
    Everything is correct. If you are behind in the time of creation, then you need to get ahead in the ability to use.
    "The budget for design work is estimated at 1,6 billion rubles
    Flight performance
    Length: 14 m [7]
    Wingspan: 19 m [7]
    Combat load: 2,8 tons [7], according to other sources - up to 8 tons [22]
    Takeoff weight: 25 t [7]
    Maximum speed: 1400 km / h (at low altitude) [7], according to other sources - about 1000 km / h [9] [19] [23]
    Practical ceiling: 18 000 m [24]
    Flight range: 6000 km [24]
    It is planned that the cost of heavy attack drones S-70 "Okhotnik" will be about 1 billion rubles for one device, after the launch of mass production, the price will be reduced by 40-50% compared to prototypes. "
    The cost of the SU-35 is 2 billion rubles. rub. Now compare. I think if "Hunter" will correspond to the performance characteristics, then "the game is worth the candle",
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 12 January 2021 08: 44
    +1
    That’s why NATO members will be glad, the Russians will have one device soon to enter service.
  13. viktor_ui
    viktor_ui 12 January 2021 09: 30
    +2
    Gravity bombs wassat fellow verbiage, but how creative. It's like hammering nails with a crystal hammer. And what, there is a chase, and how in 2008 the strategist was sent to take a picture of the local theater of operations with a deplorable end for the crew, so it will be sent to abandon by gravity (from a shave or from a height). The Papuans will probably be bombed? Bearded they are the same children will definitely fill it up in this situation up to 5 km. Wait and see
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 12 January 2021 20: 31
      +2
      Yes, "gravitational bombs" - someone re-read this NPF. The next time they will write "annihilation", for more delight.
  14. mvg
    mvg 12 January 2021 10: 45
    -2
    How ugly
    1. Airdefense
      Airdefense 12 January 2021 15: 09
      +1
      Not that word, especially senior will be those to whom he will drop bombs on his head.
      1. mvg
        mvg 12 January 2021 15: 19
        -2
        If this Deer flies. AL-31F sticks out very much, as usual.
  15. MrFox
    MrFox 12 January 2021 15: 25
    0
    And where did the bonba go? This should be the most interesting. The fact that you can drop a blank is so clear
  16. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 12 January 2021 20: 07
    0
    did not understand whether they want to make an attack aircraft out of him?
  17. andrew42
    andrew42 12 January 2021 20: 28
    +1
    Interesting news. However, the Hunter is still expensive for a regular assault. But if such a multipurpose UAV has a "trailer" (reconnaissance, security, additional bomb load) to a multipurpose LA5, then it makes sense. True, in this case, the range of the UAV-companion should be 1,5 times more than that of the accompanied aircraft.
  18. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 12 January 2021 20: 31
    0
    "It was especially noted that the drone is equipped with a modern FPK (sighting and navigation system), which makes it possible for unguided gravitational weapons (free-falling bombs) to approach in accuracy and efficiency the guided weapons of military aviation - precision weapons" - this is not Hephaestus "Hunter" added?
  19. Alexey Zigalov
    Alexey Zigalov 12 January 2021 21: 35
    +1
    Brilliant. Spent a lot of money, and now they are trying to understand what it is for. Therefore, such an idiotic note, more questions ??? For several years now, the ALBK (autonomous flying combat complex) has been made abroad. The main task is to protect your own air defense and destroy enemy air defense.
  20. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 12 January 2021 22: 58
    0
    Quote: andrew42
    Interesting news. However, the Hunter is still expensive for a regular assault. But if such a multipurpose UAV has a "trailer" (reconnaissance, security, additional bomb load) to a multipurpose LA5, then it makes sense. True, in this case, the range of the UAV-companion should be 1,5 times more than that of the accompanied aircraft.

    So he will have the Su-57 as his companions, and with the modernization, the Su-35 will be able. wait and see, but their joint flights have already taken place. hi
  21. Artyom1979
    Artyom1979 12 January 2021 23: 55
    +2
    Well, they waited. The other day in Ukraine, drone bombs were thrown. We go head to head, but they are still a little ahead of us)))).
  22. Klingon
    Klingon 13 January 2021 12: 08
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    Quote: raw174
    Quote: Uncle Lee
    The UAV has already dropped the bonbu ...

    It certainly pleases, it's bad that this UAV and SU-57 in the troops, in more or less noticeable quantities, will not be seen very soon ...

    this UAV is still a demonstrator! not as a serial sample. Now they will run in with different ammunition, then with another engine with a flat nozzle, then with a new engine and ammunition, then they will do three things, they will send them to Saratov to poke fun at the Barmaleevs or Turkolei, maybe even hunt for bayraktars and only then they will start the series