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Lukashenko announced the need for closer integration of Russia and Belarus

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Lukashenko announced the need for closer integration of Russia and Belarus

Russia and Belarus need to integrate more closely in all areas, said Belarusian President Aleskandr Lukashenko in an interview with the “Characters from Naila Asker-zade” program on the Russia 1 TV channel.


According to the Belarusian leader, Russia and Belarus should integrate within the framework of the Union State, and not stagnate, as has been the case since its creation. For closer integration of the countries, Lukashenka proposed to create equal conditions for people and economic entities within the Union State, which will help to move forward faster.

We need (to integrate - approx.) In the economy, in people, and so on. Absolutely not interfere with anything. All the more (to) Russia we need, on the contrary, to be closer, and then the political issues will come. And when people see that we have been telepathic for thirty years in one place in the construction of the Union State, they reasonably ask the question: why?

- he added.

Lukashenko also called Russian President Vladimir Putin not only his friend, but also a friend of the entire Belarusian people. At the same time, he stressed that he no longer has other friends, for that there are "many opponents", and "whether they become enemies - time will tell."

Yes, I consider him my friend (...) he confirmed that he is not only my friend, but also a friend of the Belarusian people. Sincerely

- he said.

At the same time, Lukashenka does not believe that Belarus should abandon the multi-vector foreign policy.
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  1. Alexga
    Alexga 10 January 2021 14: 42
    -17%
    For closer integration of the countries, Lukashenka proposed to create equal conditions for people and economic entities within the Union State, which will help to move forward faster.

    In my opinion, this is the main reason for the failure of the Union State, there are no equal conditions for everyone, there is no result.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 10 January 2021 14: 50
      +26
      Quote: AlexGa
      In my opinion, this is the main reason for the failure of the Union State, there are no equal conditions for everyone, there is no result.

      The main reason for the failure of the Union State is the unwillingness to surrender power and the right to presidency. How can such an alliance be formed? With only one center in Moscow ... Everything else, like the EU, is a covered material. It is high time to understand that sovereignty is not only independence, but also the ability to obey. There will be no union if states wish to live each according to their own laws.
      Moreover, socialist principles are no longer braces, and there is no mutual benefit in capitalism. Someone always loses.
      1. Deniska999
        Deniska999 10 January 2021 15: 42
        +9
        AHL himself said today that it “cannot stop” in terms of presidency) This is already a disease.
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 10 January 2021 16: 07
        +1
        Quote: yuriy55
        With only one center in Moscow ...

        Just out of curiosity, I ask, why not in Minsk? Only reasonably please.
        1. Soko
          Soko 10 January 2021 16: 23
          +25
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          why not in Minsk? Only reasonably please

          Too close to the "friendly" West. Even Moscow is somewhat vulnerable, but the protective infrastructure is one of the most developed.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 10 January 2021 17: 25
            +2
            Quote: Soko
            Too close to the "friendly" West. Even Moscow is somewhat vulnerable, but the protective infrastructure is one of the most developed.

            Nazarbayev moved the capital and built a city of extraordinary beauty in an open field and nothing, did not break off especially.
            1. Civil
              Civil 10 January 2021 18: 54
              -2
              It is not for nothing that the Cockroach sang such songs! Planned something and knows something.
              1. Sahalinets
                Sahalinets 11 January 2021 01: 55
                +7
                He just wants money and lies as always. Get the loot and throw it. As always.
            2. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 10 January 2021 20: 28
              +2
              Quote: Stroporez
              Quote: Soko
              Too close to the "friendly" West. Even Moscow is somewhat vulnerable, but the protective infrastructure is one of the most developed.

              Nazarbayev moved the capital and built a city of extraordinary beauty in an open field and nothing, did not break off especially.

              It's not a tricky business! Created by Russia. Built by Russia. The former city of Verny. Alma Ata is too Russian city for the father of all Kazakhs. Even by nationality. Culturally close to Russia. Zyn, bryn adyn string And he is the owner of the whole country ..
            3. your1970
              your1970 10 January 2021 22: 12
              +2
              Quote: Stroporez
              Quote: Soko
              Too close to the "friendly" West. Even Moscow is somewhat vulnerable, but the protective infrastructure is one of the most developed.

              Nazarbayev moved the capital and built a city of extraordinary beauty in an open field and nothing, did not break off especially.
              - you know why?
              Because in Almaty other Zhuz rules ... and even if all civil servants / security officials / military are kicked out, the newly recruited ones will again be from another Zhuz ..
              The specificity of Kazakhstan - 3 Zhuz ....... from one - the chiefs / military, from the other - the intelligentsia, from the third (Younger) Zhuz - a hard worker. So historically ...
              So he moved the capital to himself - to his Zhuz ... there it is justified by the much greater loyalty of the population ...

              In our reality, it is to transfer the Moscow Region to Tuva because Shoigu is from there
            4. Alex Justice
              Alex Justice 11 January 2021 18: 38
              +1
              Canberu was built in an open field to please everyone and the deputies have less temptations. It would be nice to build a capital in Siberia.
        2. 210ox
          210ox 10 January 2021 16: 37
          +5
          Why not in Smolensk? That there, that there is almost four hundred miles. Yes, and what about the LAS with the Baltic transit? Crowned and stalled?
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 10 January 2021 17: 17
            +2
            Quote: 210ox
            Why not in Smolensk? That there, that there is almost four hundred miles.

            I agree! The capital of the union state is in Smolensk, and the republican ones are in the same place where they were. In other cases, it will be the absorption of the RF RB.
            Only something tells me that the Belarusians do not really want to drown in the arms of the Russian Federation, which is corrupted by the tonsils.
            1. Captain Pushkin
              Captain Pushkin 10 January 2021 19: 42
              +8
              Quote: Stroporez
              I agree! The capital of the union state is in Smolensk, and the republican ones are in the same place where they were.

              The geometrical center of Russia is Krasnoyarsk. Why not move the capital to Krasnoyarsk?
          2. Normal ok
            Normal ok 11 January 2021 10: 51
            -1
            Quote: 210ox
            Why not in Smolensk? That there, that there is almost four hundred miles. Yes, and what about the LAS with the Baltic transit? Crowned and stalled?

            In the same interview (if I am not mistaken) the dad said that he would continue to develop economic relations with Ukraine (I don’t know about the Balts).
        3. Anatole Klim
          Anatole Klim 10 January 2021 16: 56
          +25
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          why not in Minsk? Only reasonably please.

          A few arguments for a throw-in:
          - the economy of Belarus is about 5% of the Russian, over the past 10 years Belarus has received from Russia in the form of direct and hidden subsidies, preferences and loans more than $ 100 billion, Belarus is the largest debtor to Russia, about 8 billion, thanks to Russia, the economy of Belarus is still works.;
          - the political weight of Russia and Belarus in the world arena is incomparable;
          - Russia is a nuclear power, with a nuclear triad, the armed forces are not comparable;
          - the population of Belarus is less than the population of Moscow, the territory is 83 times smaller than the Russian one.
          The only thing that Belarus has is a favorable location, a north-south, west-east intersection.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 10 January 2021 17: 14
            +1
            Quote: Anatol Klim
            A few arguments for a throw-in:
            - the economy of Belarus is about 5% of the Russian, over the past 10 years Belarus has received from Russia in the form of direct and hidden subsidies, preferences and loans more than $ 100 billion, Belarus is the largest debtor to Russia, about $ 8 billion,

            Assuming that your data is correct (which I deeply doubt and would like to see proofs), then it will be called a takeover, and not a union state.
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 10 January 2021 19: 00
              +6
              To be honest, joining the Russian Federation would be the best option from a managerial and economic point of view. But this is a practically unrealizable option. A significant part of the population of the Republic of Belarus, and perhaps a large part, especially of the Belarusian-speaking, will be against it.
              1. Naive
                Naive 11 January 2021 08: 35
                -1
                Firstly, the Belarusian-speaking population in Belarus is less than a percent (apart from school and television, I don't hear Belarusian speech at all), and secondly, joining Russia would really be more correct from the point of view of reducing the bureaucracy and (people of the sovereign) and increasing profits (benefits for people (after all, everything is started for this? Am I right?)), and the potential difference of economies ... But there is one BUT! What is modern Russia like? Theft, nepotism, uneducated and incompetent in all spheres of government, wherever you look, there is a failure almost everywhere (they are all of course masters of showering, we did (eat) increased (them), gave (give) and everything like that) but take almost anyone and see what he did? Only worse ... This is the main reason why people do not want to join your world.
                1. Sergej1972
                  Sergej1972 11 January 2021 08: 51
                  0
                  I would not say that the leadership of the Russian armed forces and other security agencies are less competent than their Belarusian counterparts. Rather the opposite. And the level of material support of servicemen, the scale of the supply of new equipment to the troops is incomparable with the Belarusian. The Moscow leadership is clearly not worse than the Minsk city leadership. The cleanliness of settlements in the provinces in Belarus is better monitored. Unfortunately, the reputation of Belarusian products sold in Russia is not the same as it was 5-10 years ago. It is necessary to compare not in general, but in specific areas of management and people's lives.
                  1. Naive
                    Naive 11 January 2021 09: 08
                    0
                    The question is not in comparison (our mummers) of course and in the marks of the MORF are not suitable. Still, with such money and constant conflicts ... For Moscow, it is better not to start who rules there and how much money they (mastered)?
                2. Sergej1972
                  Sergej1972 11 January 2021 09: 03
                  +3
                  Or, for example, are Russian federal highways really worse than Belarusian highways? Visitors from Belarus also tell a lot of “good things” about their officials and the situation at enterprises.
                  1. Naive
                    Naive 11 January 2021 09: 11
                    +1
                    I do not argue that ours is much better than yours, the point is different people do not want to plunge from one shit into another ...
                    1. Sergej1972
                      Sergej1972 11 January 2021 10: 09
                      0
                      Isn't it better to remove it together? What is the alternative for Belarus? It will not be possible to become a second Switzerland, the geographical location and the wrong story ... And the second Poland will not work, the scale is not the same, and there is no powerful lobby in the United States.
                      1. Naive
                        Naive 11 January 2021 11: 16
                        +1
                        You are yours ... ask what the hell they are doing.
                    2. Sergej1972
                      Sergej1972 11 January 2021 10: 15
                      0
                      My question is different, purely everyday, and without connection with the previous one. I don’t understand why sausages and milk from Belarus, not all of them, of course (there are also very good products), but partially, have become, in terms of taste, worse than a few years ago? Is it only in the Russian Federation that such products are transported, or is it also observed in Belarus? Maybe a consequence of newfangled technologies?
                      1. Naive
                        Naive 11 January 2021 11: 35
                        +4
                        As for the products, I don’t know, in our country they always sold shit (everything that cannot pass the export checks, mainly your Rospotrebnadzor). There were even articles on the Internet where people thanked your Rospotrebnadzor for the opportunity to try high-quality Belarusian products (during the meat and milk wars and the ban on supplies to Russia). And regarding the deterioration in quality, you could be attributed to the purchase of our enterprises by your businessmen (and they know how to conjure over the recipe), but it seems that the information has not surfaced anywhere ... Therefore, there remains only an agreement between our and yours to increase the profit taking at the expense of quality. Well, the share of counterfeit is also present (how many times I've seen in Russia.
                      2. Sergej1972
                        Sergej1972 11 January 2021 11: 46
                        +1
                        Thanks for answering. If I wrote just "thank you", the comment would not have been sent as too short.)
            2. Alex Justice
              Alex Justice 11 January 2021 18: 42
              +1
              A significant part of the population of the Republic of Belarus, and perhaps a large part, especially of the Belarusian-speaking, will be against it.

              You can guess endlessly. So can a referendum be held?
          2. Captain Pushkin
            Captain Pushkin 10 January 2021 19: 58
            +8
            Quote: Stroporez
            it will be called a takeover, not a union state.

            Let us also accept Moldova into the Union and let Chisinau govern the Union.
            Will everyone be in favor, especially Belarusians?
            Small countries cannot be independent. And not very small either.
            Yugoslavia tried to be independent and outside the bloc. Moreover, she was quite friendly with the "West". What has become of her not forgotten?
            For Belarus, the choice is not great - either they will be “swallowed up” in the EU, more precisely, on its porch, like Ukraine, or into the Russian Federation, as an autonomous republic, like Crimea.
            There is nothing else on the menu.
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 11 January 2021 08: 59
              +1
              Since 1992, we have not had the concept of "autonomous republic". There is a republic within the Russian Federation. Its main difference from a region or region is that, along with Russian, another official language can be used in it, and instead of the Charter (as in the regions and regions) there is a Constitution. But this is so, a small amendment. In all other respects, I completely agree with you.
          3. cmax
            cmax 11 January 2021 01: 04
            +1
            Quote: Stroporez
            Quote: Anatol Klim
            A few arguments for a throw-in:
            - the economy of Belarus is about 5% of the Russian, over the past 10 years Belarus has received from Russia in the form of direct and hidden subsidies, preferences and loans more than $ 100 billion, Belarus is the largest debtor to Russia, about $ 8 billion,

            Assuming that your data is correct (which I deeply doubt and would like to see proofs), then it will be called a takeover, and not a union state.

            Proofs, muffs. Sit where you sat. Probably a fifth of the able-bodied people of Belarus work in Russia, and not vice versa. For some, the main thing is to bring the printing press of the union state to them. This is where the integration will end, and the vocabulary of some leaders of the Republic of Belarus will again be replenished with words about multi-vector.
        4. Zdishek
          Zdishek 10 January 2021 19: 15
          -1
          But the inhabitants of this great and mighty country are sincerely not ready to become a part of the Russian Federation))) well, and then bend the Russians! Myzh are devoured)))) Or maybe merge these into a geyrope? Those of their livestock will be reduced three times! Then we look less for fiery belyarus in the forests
      3. yuriy55
        yuriy55 10 January 2021 17: 25
        +6
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Just out of curiosity, I ask, why not in Minsk?

        Quote: Soko
        Even Moscow is somewhat vulnerable, but the protective infrastructure is one of the most developed.

        In fact, it's time to move the capital of Russia out of Moscow. There are millions of square meters in the country. kilometers of space, and there was no more space ... Let the infrastructure of the metropolis remain there, and the government and legislators should be equidistant (ideally) both from the people and from the toltosums.
        So we have a hypertrophied development of the center with an annual infusion of more than 400 rubles from the budget ...
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 10 January 2021 17: 34
          +3
          Quote: yuriy55
          So we have a hypertrophied development of the center with an annual infusion of more than 400 rubles from the budget ...

          And it is not profitable for our gaspads to develop the country, in the current situation it is easier for them to squander the territories freed from the inhabitants, they can sell, lease, cut out the forest, pick out from the depths that which they have not yet dug out and arrange garbage dumps, otherwise the locals will begin to grumble and not at exactly one hour the partisans will leave. Why should gaspads need extra problems?
      4. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 10 January 2021 18: 32
        +2
        Quote: aleksejkabanets

        Just out of curiosity, I ask, why not in Minsk? Only reasonably please.

        Today Minsk is not ready for the normal functioning of state structures of such a huge state, and Moscow is ready.
        And what difference does it make where the control center of the union state is located, if the same laws operate in it?
        1. yuriy55
          yuriy55 10 January 2021 20: 16
          +4
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Today Minsk is not ready for the normal functioning of state structures of such a huge state, and Moscow is ready.

          I'm just curious, why are Russian citizens, despite all the assurances of the country's leaders to reduce the state apparatus, surethat state structures should be inflated exactly to such a scale and they should be paid just enough so that, God forbid, they would not be lured into the Bundestag or some State Department?
          I will not tire of repeating the request to see:
          [media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = RSH0xn2p6vY & t = 2291s]
          Easily, practically on the fingers, they explain that there is no need to maintain an army of officials who are prone to corruption and make mistakes. There are programs that control production. There are a huge number of different programs that do not require lunch breaks and press secretaries (secretaries) with office apartments.
          1. your1970
            your1970 10 January 2021 22: 21
            +2
            Quote: yuriy55
            Are you sure that state structures should be inflated to such a scale and they should be paid just enough so that, God forbid, they would not be lured into the Bundestag or some State Department?
            - I'm embarrassed to ask, according to your 20 rubles (the salary of the bulk of civil servants, about 000%) is that a lot?
            you open the adored by all fighters against corruption Singapore - oops ...42 000 police officers at 7mln population
            In Moscow at 20 млн population 62 000 employees - if you dance from the Singapore density - then in Moscow there should be 120 belay the police
            and this despite the fact that the area of ​​Moscow is much larger than the area of ​​Singapore ...
            1. Sergej1972
              Sergej1972 11 January 2021 09: 07
              +1
              Officially, there are 12 million 600 thousand people in Moscow.
              1. your1970
                your1970 11 January 2021 10: 48
                0
                Quote: Sergej1972
                Officially, there are 12 million 600 thousand people in Moscow.

                God bless him- 80 police should be ... Not enough?
                For the period of the Olympics, 80 employees were added nothing at all - but they stood at all intersections and streets, I was small - but I remember. The number of crimes has decreased is a fact.
                If we also take into account the area, which is scanty in comparison with Moscow, then there is an excess of police density
                1. Sergej1972
                  Sergej1972 11 January 2021 11: 14
                  +1
                  Probably, the number of Rosgvardia and the FSO in Moscow should also be taken into account, at least some of their structures. I don’t know if there are any analogues in Singapore.
                  1. your1970
                    your1970 11 January 2021 13: 39
                    +2
                    62 are all employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Moscow.
                    The area of ​​Moscow is 2561 sq km, Singapore is 710 sq km. Difference in 3,6 times
                    At least three times by area - at least by population
                    And yes, I was wrong - in Singapore not
                    Quote: your1970
                    .42 police officers per 7mln population
                    - 5,78 million
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 11 January 2021 13: 51
                      +1
                      Rosgvardia - about 7000 people for Moscow and the Moscow region
          2. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 11 January 2021 10: 54
            0
            Quote: yuriy55

            ... why the citizens of Russia, despite all the assurances of the leaders of the country to reduce the state apparatus, are confident that state structures should be inflated precisely to such a scale and

            What makes you think that "citizens are sure"? Citizens are just sure of the opposite, but they cannot influence it in any way.
            Quote: yuriy55
            do they need to pay just enough so that, God forbid, they are not lured to the Bundestag or some State Department?

            Not because of this. 1. Because you need to somehow justify your huge "salary". For this, the wages of the lower level are raised unreasonably. But the process does not go further than this. Therefore, such a fork is between the salaries of officials and production workers. And 2. They are not paid to keep them from running over the hill — let them run — but where to find a replacement? In their narrow circle there is no replacement, and oh, how I don't want to take from another circle - it is not known how he will behave, and not in a professional sense.
            That is why our president is experiencing a "shortage of personnel." It is much easier for them to take and appoint to any post d-e-b-i-l-a from their circle than a professional from outside this circle.
      5. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 10 January 2021 19: 41
        +3
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Quote: yuriy55
        With only one center in Moscow ...

        Just out of curiosity, I ask, why not in Minsk? Only reasonably please.

        Everything is simple here. It all depends on the availability of resources (economic, financial, military, human) that each country can provide, at the expense of which this most union state will mainly function. For example, you and a friend decided to create a company and entered the authorized capital with a ruble, and your friend with a thousand rubles - which of you has more rights to the assets of this company? As for me, it is better to move the common capital to the Urals or Siberia (Yekaterinburg or Novosibirsk), concentrating administrative, managerial and legislative power there, and to give Moscow and Minsk the role of financial and economic centers. And for the capital it is safer, in terms of increasing the flight time of the enemy's missiles, and therefore the guaranteed preservation of the country's control center, and no one would be offended. And the lucky region, which acquired a new capital, would receive a huge opportunity for its development.
        1. cat Rusich
          cat Rusich 10 January 2021 20: 06
          -1
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          As for me, it's better to move the common capital to the Urals or Siberia (Yekaterinburg or Novosibirsk),.
          Or maybe to Magadan ...
          1) For - the same on "M" begins (Moscow, Minsk ...). 2) For - the Asia-Pacific region - most of the population, the most money, great economic prospects. 3) For - Kolyma "not far" ...
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 10 January 2021 20: 17
            +2
            Quote: cat Rusich
            Or maybe to Magadan ...

            Cold.
            Quote: cat Rusich
            2) For - the Asia-Pacific region - most of the population, the most money, great economic prospects.
            In the future, it is not safe. China today is an ally, and tomorrow it may turn out to be an enemy.
            Quote: cat Rusich
            For - Kolyma "not far" ...

            Kolyma in the same Magadan region.
            It is necessary to choose a place equidistant from "friends" in NATO and, just in case, from China. After all, it has already historically developed so that no enemy raid, then give them Moscow everything. And then while they reach Siberia, they will lose all their carts and feed the wolves and bears with their carcasses.
            1. cat Rusich
              cat Rusich 10 January 2021 20: 49
              -1
              [quote = Nyrobsky] 2) For - the Asia-Pacific region - most of the population, the most money, great economic prospects. [/ quote] In the future, it is unsafe. China today is an ally, and tomorrow it may turn out to be an enemy.
              . [/ quote] Novosibirsk is closer to China than Magadan ... Yekaterinburg is the same not far ... from China.
        2. Bagatur
          Bagatur 10 January 2021 23: 07
          +1
          It is safer for the capital, in terms of increasing the flight time of the enemy's missiles. Since if the adversary is China? Relocation of the capital to the opportunity to improve the demographic situation in Siberia. And you won't get it right away ... You have to think about how to make Russian Asia good for people. That they wanted to live there.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 11 January 2021 00: 09
            0
            Quote: bagatura
            One must think about how to make Russian Asia good for people. That they wanted to live there.

            What is there to think about Bagatur? However, the capital must be moved! laughing
            Investments and infrastructure projects will immediately go there, and therefore the people will be drawn there. yes
            1. Bagatur
              Bagatur 11 January 2021 10: 48
              0
              This is not a magic wand but also an option. Too radical of course ...
      6. Hagen
        Hagen 11 January 2021 07: 12
        +3
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Just out of curiosity, I ask, why not in Minsk?

        Because it is Minsk that is supported by Moscow, and not vice versa. There has never been a case of a rabbit eating a bear.
    2. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 10 January 2021 16: 13
      +12
      Quote: yuriy55
      The main reason for the failure of the Union State is the unwillingness to surrender power and the right to presidency.

      I totally agree with you. Rygorych cunning and dodges. Someone unknown lol it is his fault that the Union State still not only does not exist, but also does not normal work on it. With a transparent hint of "my friend". And the moaning about caring for the welfare of Belarusians is insincere (in my opinion): Belarusians should only benefit from unification. And the essence is simple: well, Lukashenka does not want to part with unlimited power! And with power in general, because he understands that everyone is VERY tired and he will soon be removed.

      Who else, but I am pretty tired of these endless hysterical looping and evasion of Lukashenka in limited corridor.
    3. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 10 January 2021 17: 42
      -3
      Quote: yuriy55
      The main reason for the failure of the Union State is the unwillingness to surrender power and the right to presidency.

      Besides Lukashenka, there are others ... who do not want to give up power. In the event of unification, they will be swallowed up by the Moscow oligarchs, so today there are no conditions for unification at all!
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      2. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 10 January 2021 19: 45
        -4
        Quote: aybolyt678
        today there are no conditions for unification at all!

        Mister, are you, excuse me, from Mi-6, BND or Mossad? Or, I hesitate to ask, completely from the CIA? Why is it so against the unification of the Russian lands? smile
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 10 January 2021 20: 00
          +2
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          Why is it so against the unification of the Russian lands?

          And, in general, someone asked the Belarusians if they want unification?
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            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 10 January 2021 20: 22
              -1
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              I believe it will be resolved positively.

              Vague doubts torment me ...
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              To your disappointment.

              No matter how disappointed you yourself. What have they forgotten, a 65-year-old pension?
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              Do you, by any chance, write not from Poland or Lithuania?

              By chance, no.
          2. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 10 January 2021 20: 11
            0
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
            Why is it so against the unification of the Russian lands?

            And, in general, someone asked the Belarusians if they want unification?

            Do not worry, when the time is right, the question will certainly, I am sure, be submitted to a referendum: the question is serious. I believe it will be resolved positively. To your disappointment. lol

            Do you, by any chance, write not from Poland or Lithuania? smile
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 10 January 2021 20: 26
              +1
              Did you scribble the same thing twice? Above is my answer.
        2. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 10 January 2021 21: 05
          +1
          Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
          whether, I hesitate to ask, completely from the CIA?

          from Siberia laughing As life shows, the political weight of one oligarch is worth millions of votes, sometimes even tens of millions. Do the oligarchs need unification? here is the key question.
          Why is it so against the unification of the Russian lands? smile
          Am I against comrades? I just described the reason, in a world where money rules everyone, and the instinct of dominance cannot be otherwise.
  2. loki565
    loki565 10 January 2021 14: 50
    +17
    There cannot be equal conditions here, the maximum is the Belarusian Autonomous Region
    1. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 10 January 2021 15: 34
      +7
      Quote: loki565
      There cannot be equal conditions here, the maximum is the Belarusian Autonomous Region

      It used to be the BSSR, now it can become a Republic within the Russian Federation!
      1. Greg Miller
        Greg Miller 10 January 2021 16: 33
        +5
        The ideology of the existence of all independent republics in the post-Soviet space is anti-Sovietism and Russophobia. Until the leadership of Russia begins to build relations with all post-Soviet republics, relations proceeding from this fact, there will be no real integration. Russia SHOULD NOT be a sponsor of someone else's sovereignty and independence! It is not Russia and its leadership that should insist on deep integration, but the poverty and hunger for independence of the post-Soviet republics should force them to integrate into Russia.
        The only bad thing here is that the political pygmies ruling in Russia today, hucksters and swindlers are ready to pay for only kisses and promises ...
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 10 January 2021 17: 46
          0
          Quote: Greg Miller
          and the poverty and hunger of independence of the post-Soviet republics should force them to integrate into Russia.

          this contradicts this:
          Quote: Greg Miller
          The only bad thing here is that the political pygmies ruling in Russia today, hucksters and swindlers are ready to pay for only kisses and promises ...

          Today, in all the post-Soviet republics, local oligarchs are in power, who are not richer and they have no goal to share power with anyone, especially with such sharks in Moscow.
        2. Zdishek
          Zdishek 10 January 2021 19: 20
          +4
          Russia will never surpass the United States in terms of bribing local elites! It is useless to create any associations! Absorption only. Otherwise it is wasted currency funds
        3. Bagatur
          Bagatur 10 January 2021 23: 10
          0
          When will the GDP in Russia be like in Japan? Then everything is in order ..
          But this is unlikely to happen ...
      2. loki565
        loki565 10 January 2021 17: 24
        +3
        It used to be the BSSR, now it can become a Republic within the Russian Federation!

        Yes, even an empire, but only as part of the Russian Federation)))
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 10 January 2021 18: 55
      +1
      There are almost 10 million people in Belarus, therefore the republic may have a special status, with expanded powers. We have one autonomous region left - the Jewish one. Although, if I had my way, I would transform half of the republics, either the smallest, or with the smallest percentage of the "titular" population, into regions and (or) autonomous regions.
      1. loki565
        loki565 11 January 2021 02: 47
        0
        I agree, although this division is inherently problematic, it is like a time bomb. In the United States, there is no Mexican state, just because the majority of the population there are Mexicans, and so on.
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 11 January 2021 11: 08
      +1
      Quote: loki565
      There cannot be equal conditions here, the maximum is the Belarusian Autonomous Region

      Autonomy is certainly good. But we must strive for a unitary state as the most stable formation. The example of the USSR will help you. Would have gone, in due time, along the Stalinist path - the division is not on a national basis, but on a territorial-production basis, the state would be much more difficult to destroy, if at all possible.
  3. iouris
    iouris 10 January 2021 14: 59
    +10
    Quote: AlexGa
    the main reason for the failure of the Union State, there are no equal conditions for everyone

    - The Union State did not fail, but was "de-unionized" for whom?
    - there are no equal conditions for "all" whom: presidents, oligarchs, foreign ministers ...?
    Is there an alternative to the entry of Belarus into the Russian Federation, who offers the best conditions?
    1. bessmertniy
      bessmertniy 10 January 2021 15: 08
      +11
      If Old Man himself did not slow down, then the Union would have long been not a profanation, but a real force. It is good if it strengthens the integration, otherwise it is just laughter. The FRG and the GDR quickly united in a normal way, and only then they solved the problems. Why is this example bad? what
      1. iouris
        iouris 10 January 2021 15: 13
        +20
        Quote: bessmertniy
        The FRG and the GDR quickly united in a normal way, and only then they solved the problems.

        They didn't "come together". The GDR was absorbed by West Germany with the military support of the treacherous leadership of the USSR.
        As is known, the "problem" of a "united Germany" is in the East. You said that she is successfully solving it.
      2. Bagatur
        Bagatur 10 January 2021 23: 14
        0
        For the integration of the GDR, only Germany poured over 1000 billion ... True, the difference in the standard of living between Russia and Belarus is not like there, but ... What kind of money was Krim alone ...
    2. Soko
      Soko 10 January 2021 16: 30
      +20
      Quote: iouris
      Is there an alternative to the entry of Belarus into the Russian Federation, who offers the best conditions?

      Alternatively, Russia and the Republic of Belarus are part of the same state as republics, as it was in the USSR. But someone really has to steer. And common sense dictates that it should be bigger and stronger.
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 10 January 2021 17: 05
        +1
        Quote: Soko
        Alternatively, Russia and the Republic of Belarus are part of the same state as republics, as it was in the USSR. But someone really has to steer. And common sense dictates that it should be bigger and stronger.

        There should be proportionality in taxiing.
        Otherwise, another collapse is inevitable. hi
        1. Soko
          Soko 10 January 2021 17: 08
          +17
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          There must be proportionality in taxiing

          Right. Proportionality according to population size.
          1. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 10 January 2021 18: 40
            0
            In federations, often a small, within reason, disproportionality may be present. For example, in many federations in the second chamber, the number of deputies from all subjects is the same. Or different, but not in direct proportion. But the other chamber is necessarily elected in most cases on the basis of the representation of the subjects, depending on the population. And sometimes even partially (as in the Federal Republic of Germany), not only on the population size, but also on the number of voters in each subject. In the Federal Republic of Germany, the states, where the percentage of voters is higher than the German average, have a representation in the Bundestag that slightly exceeds their share in the population, and vice versa. Or in the Russian Federation, the distribution of seats in the State Duma between parties according to the federal list, from which half of the State Duma deputies are elected, depends on the results of voting throughout the country. And the number of single-mandate constituencies, from which the second half of the State Duma deputies are elected, is directly proportional to the population of the subjects, with one exception - each subject, regardless of size, must elect at least one State Duma deputy.
        2. Roma 1977
          Roma 1977 11 January 2021 16: 29
          0
          If you shoot the disintegrants in time, then the system can function indefinitely.
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 10 January 2021 17: 38
        -2
        In the lower house of the union parliament, then there will still be 93-94% of the representatives of the Russian Federation. And the choice of the president of the union state (if there is one) will also depend mainly on the Russian Federation, regardless of the method of his election, by the people or by parliament. On the other hand, pride will not allow Belarusians to enter the Russian Federation as a republic. A compromise is needed. For example, most of the structures of executive power should be common for both the Union and the Russian Federation. The elections of the Union parliament and the State Duma of the Russian Federation, the presidents of the Union and the Russian Federation shall be held simultaneously and for one term, in order to exclude the occurrence of the events of 1990-1991. - confrontation between the Union and Russian authorities. But, say, in the union government at least three or four ministers were citizens of the Republic of Belarus. If a citizen of the Russian Federation is elected as the President of the Union, then he is simultaneously the President of the Russian Federation. If the citizens of the Union elect a citizen of the Republic of Belarus as president, then for this period the posts of presidents of the Union and the Russian Federation are separated. The second chamber, on the basis of equal representation, is elected by the parliaments of the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus, two thirds each from their lower chambers and one third from the upper chambers. On a number of issues, provide for the possibility for RBs to demand their re-consideration, in some cases even the right of veto on the part of RBs. And, of course, to transfer to the Union level only those issues that are inappropriate to solve at the level of the RF and RB. A small circle of exclusive powers of the Union, a list of more joint powers. And a significant range of issues on which the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus make decisions independently, but if they wish, they can coordinate actions or unify legislation.
        Here, of course, the problem is that it is possible to justify the division of powers between the Union and the Republic of Belarus, but between the Union and the Russian Federation it is problematic. Asymmetry problem. During the Soviet era, the republics had equal rights. But for some large republics their powers were clearly insufficient, for medium-sized ones, optimal, and for some small ones, such as Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Tajikistan, excessive. Because of this, the RSFSR also existed, having a truncated format of government bodies. But this was partly offset by the dominance of immigrants from the RSFSR in the Union authorities. But all this worked only under the conditions of a one-party system. And so it turns out that from the point of view of management, the best option is the entry of RB into the Russian Federation. But the option is politically unrealizable. And the option of creating a Union is more realistic, but it will lead to significant additional costs, the creation of duplicate structures, in which representatives of the Russian Federation will work mainly. By the way, don't think of it as humor, but the only example of a working model of a union state, consisting of two parts that are very different in their population and potential, is the United Republic of Tanzania, which is a union of Tanganyika and Zanzibar.)
  4. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 January 2021 15: 03
    +11
    The main reason is the cleverness of Lukashenka and the Belarusian oligarchs, including Lukashenka number 1, if we speak openly.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 10 January 2021 15: 11
      +9
      Quote: Ros 56
      The main reason is the cleverness of Lukashenka and the Belarusian oligarchs, including Lukashenka number 1, if we speak openly

      Indeed, he was the main enemy of the allied state ... but as the chair staggered, he immediately came running - save, help ... However, the multi-vector stuck in my head - not to knock it out. Only with the head ... Democrat, you know ...
      1. A1845
        A1845 10 January 2021 15: 28
        +14
        "Multi-vector" in translation into Russian is the same simple ... (sorry for my French).
        1. Virus-free crown
          Virus-free crown 10 January 2021 15: 59
          +2
          Quote: A1845
          "Multi-vector" in translation into Russian is the same simple ... (sorry for my French).

          drinks good hi
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 10 January 2021 16: 17
      +4
      Quote: Ros 56
      The main reason is the cleverness of Lukashenka and the Belarusian oligarchs, including Lukashenka number 1, if we speak openly.

      The main reason is the unwillingness of Lukashenka and the Belarusian oligarchs to be absorbed by the Russian oligarchs.
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 10 January 2021 20: 15
        -1
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        unwillingness of Lukashenka and Belarusian oligarchs to be absorbed by Russian oligarchs.
        Then the factories on the Belarusian soil will be swallowed up by "oligarchs from the EU bully "- as an example Ukraine - and" Ukrainian oligarchs bully "safe (they live and get rich) - and the Ukrainian industry is in the" fifth point "...
  5. Lannan Shi
    Lannan Shi 10 January 2021 15: 13
    +12
    Quote: AlexGa
    no equal conditions for everyone, no result.

    And what exactly is a basket for equality lacking? Belarusians get a job without any problems. Belarusian goods. Hmm .. Yes. Russians would have such freedom to bury in Russia, as Belarusians. At least a sanction device imported into Russia directly is confiscated. The Belarusian one is quietly on sale. What else does he want? What to give from the surviving industry? Sharing foreign exchange reserves? Let me dig in the bowels, for free?
    Everything is as simple as a perpendicular. The only result that the basket will suit - he is on the throne, and hereditary. Everything else ... Russian imperial ambitions aimed at oppression, suppression, etc. Will they not give the allied throne? Well, then Russia is disgusting, and there can be no associations.
  6. svp67
    svp67 10 January 2021 15: 48
    +4
    hi
    Quote: AlexGa
    In my opinion

    I will not argue, your vision of this problem, from my "six" it is seen so that while Yeltsin was in power, Lukashenko was moving "by leaps and bounds" towards the creation of a "union state", but with the arrival of GDP, trampling began .. ..
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 10 January 2021 17: 54
      +2
      Quote: svp67
      from my "six" it is seen so that while Yeltsin was in power, Lukashenka "by leaps and bounds" moved towards the creation of a "union state", but with the arrival of GDP, trampling began ...

      Colleague, I absolutely agree with you, it was the GDP that acted as a brake on the union state, because at the beginning of its reign the vast majority of the population of the Russian Federation would have voted for the Arab League.
      And the second point, pay attention to how crooked our propaganda behaves. Even less than a year ago, Old Man was trolled for nothing on all fed channels, then they realized who would be next in which case, and even Kostin's mistress was sent to promote the "younger brother".
      The only pity is that our population has a memory like fish in an aquarium.
      1. your1970
        your1970 10 January 2021 22: 35
        +2
        Quote: Stroporez
        Colleague, I absolutely agree with you, it was the GDP that acted as a brake on the union state,
        - We have 4 (!!!) Customs Unions operating simultaneously with Belarus at the moment. Each was created - after Lukashenka's tricks. Every time the Russian Federation made proposals - with which Lukashenko agreed because they are beneficial for Belarus.
        And then he again began to wet the crusts ... until the next bubble offers from the Russian Federation ...
        As soon as the budget runs out, he again sharply recalls the Union with the Russian Federation ..
        Everything has been repeated many times
  7. Greg Miller
    Greg Miller 10 January 2021 16: 24
    0
    Quote: AlexGa
    For closer integration of the countries, Lukashenka proposed to create equal conditions for people and economic entities within the Union State, which will help to move forward faster.

    In my opinion, this is the main reason for the failure of the Union State, there are no equal conditions for everyone, there is no result.

    No, not that, but the reluctance of the leaders of Russia and Belarus to share with anyone their unlimited power, no one and nothing.
  8. Alexga
    Alexga 10 January 2021 18: 15
    +1
    After reading the comments so far, everything is clear with the fate of the Union State.
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 10 January 2021 14: 43
    +5
    Whoever has this varicus from the throne is drawn, probably from both, so they decided to throw a bone to the population for rating their own popularity. Let our thieves join them in their fields, it will become unprofitable to plant a karioshka.
    1. loki565
      loki565 10 January 2021 14: 53
      0
      So the United States showed the beacon of democracy how to cope with it)))
      1. The popuas
        The popuas 10 January 2021 15: 56
        +1
        There is no light, but St. Volodymyr, who sent the military ... who saved Lukashenka ... So he sang how to sing wink
        1. loki565
          loki565 10 January 2021 17: 33
          -1
          So the United States showed that there is no need to stand on ceremony, immediately combat weapons to defeat. And the entire world community pretends that this is the way it should be, no sanctions and protests, although more were killed there in one day than in Belarus in six months. We are waiting, maybe Poland will offer Trump asylum, he will form his own government and rule the United States from there)))
          1. rudolff
            rudolff 10 January 2021 17: 44
            +1
            Did they try to take the parliament by storm in Belarus, and even with arms and hands?
            1. loki565
              loki565 10 January 2021 17: 56
              -4
              They put up barriers on time and about weapons, too, not everything is so simple, in the video where a woman is being killed, she is unarmed and everyone who is not next to them, only the special forces have weapons. And in Belarus, the protesters looked much more aggressive
              1. Alex Justice
                Alex Justice 11 January 2021 18: 57
                -3
                At 91 we also stopped trucks for barricades in St. Petersburg. Prepared to repel if the communists would send troops.
    2. Quadro
      Quadro 10 January 2021 18: 10
      +3
      And of course, another nonsense about thieves. After all, they have no thieves and oligarchs. This is how the locals worry about the Belarusian oligarchs.
  • DEVIL LIFE`S
    DEVIL LIFE`S 10 January 2021 14: 47
    +14
    I hope there will be a union state (in fact, not de jure).
  • Crowe
    Crowe 10 January 2021 14: 49
    +18
    Russia and Belarus need to integrate more closely in all areas

    Who would argue, just how many years we have been hearing all this, about thirty years, probably .. But things are still there.
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  • Magic archer
    Magic archer 10 January 2021 14: 50
    +12
    Potato Figaro has been talking about this for 30 years. What is he two-faced am
  • Brturin
    Brturin 10 January 2021 14: 52
    +16
    Quote: AlexGa
    For closer integration of the countries, Lukashenka proposed to create equal conditions for people and economic entities within the Union State, which will help to move forward faster.
    In my opinion, this is the main reason for the failure of the Union State, there are no equal conditions for everyone, there is no result.

    there are no equal conditions for everyone - "Our friends-manufacturers from Belarus sell equipment on our market, and not in small quantities, and Rostselmash cannot sell a single agricultural machine on the Belarusian market"
    1. KJIETyc
      KJIETyc 10 January 2021 15: 22
      +5
      IRs from the economy have tightened. We have warehouses with this equipment crammed under the roof, to whom are you going to sell your equipment in Belarus? To a collective farm in exchange for grain, how is this happening here? Then start whining about the "helmsmen"? For reference, in the Republic of Belarus there are 9 tractors per 1000 hectares of farmland, in the Russian Federation 3.
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 10 January 2021 16: 25
        +2
        Quote: KJIETyc
        We have warehouses with this technique crammed under the roof

        And why did she eat so good ... they don't really take ...
        OJSC "MTZ" ... for 9 months in the country produced 24,7 thousand tractors for agriculture and forestry. This is 2,3% less than in the same period in 2019. By October 1, stocks of tractors in warehouses reached 5,1 thousand units, or 185,3% of the average monthly production ... 2012 was a golden time for domestic tractor builders, when 71 thousand machines were produced in the country. ... in 2019, only 39,6 thousand tractors for agriculture and forestry were produced throughout Belarus
        https://banki24.by/news/4469-belorusskie-mashinostroiteli-perezhivayut-tyazhelye
        source .. but figures
        Quote: KJIETyc
        to whom are you going to sell your equipment in Belarus

        Okay. And how much can you sell in Russia - "Rostselmash will begin construction of a tractor plant in March 2021. The investment amount is 4 billion rubles ...
        1. KJIETyc
          KJIETyc 10 January 2021 16: 39
          0
          So I tell you, iksperdu, about this and say, to whom do you want to sell something in Belarus if we have nowhere to put these tractors ourselves? And leave your tricks with distortion and speculation for your friends.
      2. Vlad is short
        Vlad is short 10 January 2021 16: 50
        +5
        Rostov sells harvesters, and good ones, not tractors. And there is no need to be proud of the number of equipment per hectare, this speaks of the worthless productivity of such equipment.
        1. KJIETyc
          KJIETyc 10 January 2021 17: 00
          0
          in Germany in the region of 50 tractors per 1000 hectares, this speaks of a high degree of mechanization of agriculture and an intensive approach in it. The average yield of winter barley in Germany is approaching 70 centner / ha, in the Russian Federation and the Republic of Belarus in the region of 40 (this is, taking into account the manipulation of data in the Republic of Belarus, in reality it rarely reaches 30, I don’t know how it really is in Russia and Germany, we will assume that everywhere lie). And not this is all that you wrote. For harvesters with us. The situation is the same with combines, if you decide to focus on them, Gomselmash and Lidaagroprommash. And again, let's start with the fact that all equipment is bought by "collective farms" through subsidies in exchange for grain (and not only). Will you sell your equipment to us for grain?
          1. rudolff
            rudolff 10 January 2021 17: 19
            +3
            In Belarus, it is not so rare to see the newcomers and John Deere and Claes on the fields. You can buy from Americans and Germans, but Rostov equipment ... is actually a ban.
  • Guru
    Guru 10 January 2021 14: 56
    +16
    The old man again muddies the waters, talks about everything about the union state, while all his cunning has long been known. He wants to live on his own and the Kremlin is not a decree to him, but at the expense of the same Kremlin. He wants energy prices at Russian domestic prices, and other preferences.
    1. Vlad is short
      Vlad is short 10 January 2021 16: 53
      +3
      Does Lukashenka's surname mean anything? Has anyone managed to come to an agreement with the ethnic crest?
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 10 January 2021 14: 57
    +5
    Lukashenka got hit on the head with one of his multi-vector chairs - so again there was talk of integration.
    "And when people see that we have been telepathic for thirty years in one place in the construction of the Union State, they reasonably ask the question: why?" Due to the fact that the very estate of power keeps politicians well on the ground, and even more so.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 10 January 2021 15: 01
    +9
    The old man can say everything. Loves to talk. Only "equal conditions" spoil everything. We do not have equal conditions even in the constituent entities of the Russian Federation.
  • askort154
    askort154 10 January 2021 15: 02
    +9
    I wagged, wagged, and I will wag. This is my bottom figure.
  • apro
    apro 10 January 2021 15: 07
    -10%
    The Russians did not need the USSR ... but what kind of a union state, yes, even with Belarus? It's too often to feed it ... too often ... we already have enough freeloaders ... in the Forbes lists ...
    1. tatra
      tatra 10 January 2021 15: 32
      +2
      The Russian Soviet USSR needed, like all the patriots of centuries-old Russia, before the October Revolution, one big country was needed. These are anti-Soviet - and Russians, and all other nationalities, divided the USSR among themselves under the spell that it was their republic that feeds the entire USSR, and immediately cowardly shifted the blame for this onto the Soviet. And judging by the comments of the enemies of the communists, it is clear why their Yeltsin-Putin Russia has "enemies all around" and "guns instead of butter."
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 10 January 2021 15: 08
    +5
    As Luka began to sing, when his skin was actually saved, and his Western partners threw it, they also muddied the Maidan))
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 10 January 2021 15: 08
    +6
    At the same time, Lukashenka does not believe that Belarus should abandon the multi-vector foreign policy.

    Another attempt to sit on two chairs ?! am What is the point in further "integration" if Lukashenka does not want to integrate himself? wassat or all together, or each on its own
  • 7,62h54
    7,62h54 10 January 2021 15: 11
    +7
    Lukashenko proposed to create equal conditions for people and business entities within the Union State, which will help to move forward faster.

    Again, he wants to go to other people's energy resources.
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 10 January 2021 15: 12
    +5
    Lukashenko announced the need for closer integration of Russia and Belarus


    for those who do not speak "Lukashenskiy language" -> give me a penny, I am sure that we are moving in the right direction, but there are not enough pennies and preferences.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 10 January 2021 15: 15
    +10
    Lukashenka has been talking about the need for a union for all these 30 years, but he himself is preventing its formation. In his collective farm opinion, a union is when Russia gives him everything for free, and he sells to Russia "at market prices" and spits on union obligations.
    1. apro
      apro 10 January 2021 15: 57
      -8
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      but he himself prevents its formation.

      And how did you calculate this not good ??? by what parameters? In the Russian Federation probably think differently?
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 10 January 2021 15: 16
    +10
    The main reason for the failure of the Union State is AG Lukashenko's misunderstanding that Belarus, from the very moment of his presidency, has been supported by Russia. In all respects, in what state did he accept Belarus from Shushkevich and Kebich? Forgot? Gas and oil were received at low prices compared to other prices, but they also demanded, as in the Smolensk region. Sales of products mainly in the Russian Federation, but they allowed a sub-sanction, marked Made in Belarus (bananas and shrimps), to Russia, demanded more money for Russian bases , although they themselves received a lot of information from them, unilaterally raised tariffs for pumping oil and gas, refused to use the air base in Grodno, although this is primarily in the interests of Belarus, oil and gas fields in Russia are required, but at the same time not understand that a lot of money has been invested in their exploration and development. The Ostrovets NPP was built for a Russian loan from Russian equipment and Russian specialists, now they want to spread the loan repayment for many years. Allied enterprises - in Russia. Without them, the Belarusian industry will collapse. The example of Ukraine has taught nothing.
  • tatra
    tatra 10 January 2021 15: 38
    -5
    It seems that the enemies of the communists in the VO simply yearn for Belarus to be captured by pro-Western Russophobes, who are the only alternative to Lukashenka in Belarus.
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 10 January 2021 18: 17
      +3
      Instead of your crazy propaganda, look at reality, monster. Lukashenka himself allowed the production of Western NGOs, allowed the Catholic Church to agitate here, and now you are carrying some nonsense about the fact that onions are an alternative to Russophobes. He raised them himself.
      1. tatra
        tatra 10 January 2021 18: 25
        -2
        Given the freedom of speech given by the benefactor of the enemies of the communists Gorbachev to the enemies of the communists, which they so longed for under the USSR, they all proved that they have a mental inclination to stupid, senseless malice and criticism AGAINST something or someone, never presenting their best alternative. And the post-Soviet period, in which all of them "and now are better than in the USSR," because they created it "in their own image and likeness", in accordance with what they are, is a total degradation of EVERYTHING, including the lexicon of those who own the country.
  • Pamir
    Pamir 10 January 2021 15: 42
    0
    Integration stalls for an important reason, "There can be no equality or priority-supremacy in this state for the Republic of Belarus." The states have too different weight categories. Only Russia's absorption of the Republic of Belarus and the granting of autonomy within the Russian Federation, there is no other option. the relationship is leader-follower, otherwise it is too unprofitable. There is no sentiment.
    And Lukashenka and all the courtiers of the Republic of Bashkortostan know this, that's why I twist and twist I want to deceive. Here you give us for this, and we will give you money, we will think, maybe, how much you pay, in this case, like in that cartoon " Vanyusha, I'm yours forever ", but the Russian Federation also has its own buyout, it seems like an equal alliance, but then everything will be changed, in any case, it is not a minus for the people of Belarus.
    Belarus, too, how to judge for this? But the Russian Federation is also right, and will defend, only gradual integration into a single one, with the priority of clearly who, has the right.
    1. Pamir
      Pamir 10 January 2021 15: 50
      -1
      I meant that if the Russian Federation is in the future, will work with the Republic of Belarus, then this, only this way and nothing else. That is the opinion.
  • A_Lex
    A_Lex 10 January 2021 15: 50
    +1
    The EU is a union around Germany and for the benefit of Germany. And here by Germany is meant not only the German oligarchs, but the whole of Germany as a country as a whole.

    According to this logic, the EAEU was supposed to be a union around the Russian Federation and with the benefit of the Russian Federation as a country. But since regarding the Russian Federation as a country, Russian oligarchs think only about their offshore pocket and about nothing else, with such a policy, the EAEU will not be able to take place in reality. Because everything the oligarchs need - guest workers, individual enterprises, gas pipelines - they already have, and they do not need all the extra costs that will inevitably entail unification. Those. the problem is that the goal in this case is the maximum minimization of costs, and not at all some kind of development of the country. And if, for example, the same goal had prevailed in 1917, the USSR would never have been able to form. Because the USSR is the unification of peoples for the sake of common development, for which expenses are natural and inevitable.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 10 January 2021 15: 51
    +1
    Okay, you heard that something ... when will there be any business?
    1. apro
      apro 10 January 2021 15: 58
      -2
      Quote: rocket757
      Okay, you heard that something ... when will there be any business?

      Who are you asking?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 10 January 2021 16: 22
        0
        Tab happens, I want to ask someone specifically, but ... the question flew into the void.
        Can you imagine that we can ask the upper ones, even there, even here?
        1. apro
          apro 10 January 2021 16: 33
          -1
          Quote: rocket757
          Can you imagine that we can ask the upper ones, even there, even here?

          Why ask ... if the answer is obvious ... he has been constantly repeating for the last 30 years that there is no need for a union state, there are only selfish interests, not popular ones, and this answer is heard from the Russian Federation ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 10 January 2021 17: 06
            +1
            Probably there is an obvious answer to the question - Who lives well in Russia?
            In Belarus, they may also ask whether they will live better when / if they join Russia in a capital way, and not declaratively.
          2. Quadro
            Quadro 10 January 2021 18: 21
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            Quote: apro
            Quote: rocket757
            Can you imagine that we can ask the upper ones, even there, even here?

            Why ask ... if the answer is obvious ... he has been constantly repeating for the last 30 years that there is no need for a union state, there are only selfish interests, not popular ones, and this answer is heard from the Russian Federation ...

            Well, yes again, the Russian Federation is to blame. And not Lukashenko, who spawned Western NGOs and allowed the Catholic Church to brainwash people. It also requires resources at domestic Russian prices, despite the fact that it plays at independence. And he also does not want to give an air base, give planes for free, but the base is not needed.
  • vitvit123
    vitvit123 10 January 2021 15: 54
    +4
    He no longer mentions the terrible and bloodthirsty Russian oligarchs who are at a low start to tear apart the proud, independent, most hardworking (with a quality mark) state of Belarus ... everything is changing in this world ..
  • Dimide
    Dimide 10 January 2021 15: 58
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    I wonder what kind of system will be in the union state and how all this will happen at the legislative level
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 10 January 2021 19: 46
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      What kind of fancy?
      What other Union State?
      1. Dimide
        Dimide 10 January 2021 21: 42
        0
        Exactly, I forgot the quotes, but these are the words of Lukashenka laughing
  • Kerensky
    Kerensky 10 January 2021 15: 58
    0
    Type in a search engine: "Artem the Good Prince of Minsk is an unreal story", everything is clear there ...
  • Asad
    Asad 10 January 2021 16: 01
    +1
    Russian television says one thing, I wonder what the BBS will say?
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 10 January 2021 16: 04
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    At the same time, Lukashenka does not believe that Belarus should abandon the multi-vector foreign policy.

    Once carried over, and the second time will not. They will prepare more seriously, and in a couple of years they will start a new offensive, but without a housewife.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 10 January 2021 19: 45
      +1
      Once carried over, and the second time will not. They will prepare more seriously, and in a couple of years they will start a new offensive, but without a housewife.


      Who told you that Sasha is doing well?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 January 2021 21: 11
        -1
        Quote: Olezhek
        Who told you that Sasha is doing well?

        Because the housewife is already silent, and has disappeared from all the media. And at the moment Lukashenka is giving an interview with Naila Asker Zade.
        1. Naive
          Naive 11 January 2021 08: 54
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          If you do not see it, it means that you do not need it yet (as decided from above). And for the money ... Journalism is also an ancient profession. And the evidence that she-they were given money is a complete absence of uncomfortable questions to which the society wanted to hear answers ... And this is just an attempt to piss in the ears (dear Russians).
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 11 January 2021 09: 17
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            Quote: Naive
            And this is just an attempt to piss in the ears (dear Russians).

            We can see everything anyway, and we don’t hang noodles on our ears.
            For the rest, this is your life and your business, do what you want.
  • KJIETyc
    KJIETyc 10 January 2021 16: 18
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    Quote: loki565
    There cannot be equal conditions here, the maximum is the Belarusian Autonomous Region

    Like a state in the United States with its own local laws (for example, Texas has a completely different taxation compared to California). "Each state is a separate sovereign entity with its own constitution, legislative, executive, and judicial branches. Powers that the US Constitution does not delegate to the federal government or prohibit states are reserved for the state population." It seems to me optimal.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 10 January 2021 18: 23
      +4
      Federal taxes in all states of the United States are levied in the same way, under the same federal tax law, by the single federal tax service. And they are levied directly, the state and municipal governments have no way of preventing their collection. The state in its own way decides the issue only of those taxes that go to the state treasury. Municipalities can deal with the issue of municipal taxes in different ways, even within the same state. That is, to sum up, in the United States, federal power is not contained from a share of state taxes, but from directly collected federal taxes and from customs revenues. And the federal government, when it makes a decision to reduce or increase federal taxes, is not obliged to coordinate this issue with the states. After all, in the Senate and the House of Representatives of the United States, senators and congressmen, directly elected by the population of the states, sit. In the Russian Federation, the judiciary, as in such centralized federations created "from above" as Austria, Germany, India, and as in most other federations, is united and acts on a unitary basis. It seems to me that in the Russian Federation it is inappropriate to divide the judicial power between the federation and the subjects, as well as to divide the crimes into federal and subject. Also, the prosecutor's office, investigative bodies, places of deprivation of liberty in our country are inappropriate to divide between the federation and its subjects. Here, I am convinced, the American experience is unacceptable for us. At the level of the subjects, we have only legislative and executive powers.
    2. Quadro
      Quadro 10 January 2021 18: 24
      +2
      And with any storm they will creep in different directions. What is optimal for the United States is death for us. And without these laws and powers in 90, the country was bursting at the seams.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 11 January 2021 09: 29
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        I believe that federalism in Russia within its present borders is somewhat far-fetched, artificial, created from above, and not as a result of natural development. It would be acceptable within the borders of the USSR, but not the Russian Federation. But we are already used to federation. Therefore, let it be preserved, but not in the format of American federalism, but in the format of cooperative, centralized federalism, as in Germany, Austria, India.
  • Bad_gr
    Bad_gr 10 January 2021 16: 31
    +1
    At the same time, Lukashenka does not believe that Belarus should abandon the multi-vector foreign policy.
    After he did not trample after the elections, only a lazy Western politician, they say, drew conclusions.
  • swyatoslav
    swyatoslav 10 January 2021 18: 16
    +2
    Look, you sang about integration again .... not otherwise, Grigorych needs something from Vovanych! laughing
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 January 2021 21: 17
      -2
      Quote: swyatoslav
      Look, you sang about integration again .... not otherwise, Grigorych needs something from Vovanych!

      Yes, only with Russia together can one survive in the world of jackals. If Ukraine has been torn apart, then Belarus, which is three times smaller, will be trampled in an instant, run over and even noticed. Really, the people of Belarus do not understand that nobody needs them, just like all South American countries, America does not need them, except to be banana republics.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 11 January 2021 09: 32
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        Well, giant Brazil clearly doesn't want to be a banana republic. She doesn't mind being the leader of all of South America. But the language is Portuguese and in other countries Spanish.)
  • Olezhek
    Olezhek 10 January 2021 19: 44
    -1
    No matter how relevant ...
  • XXXIII
    XXXIII 10 January 2021 19: 45
    +1
    Lukashenko announced the need for closer integration of Russia and Belarus
    Only with Tikhanovskaya this option will work, while leaving the Republic of Belarus "not" a dependent and capitalist appendage of the Russian Federation and the European Union. To the Russian Federation without Lukashenko, on the basis of broad autonomy. Such a dictator is not needed in the political system of the Russian Federation;
    In general, this is empty chatter, time has passed and nothing will be created, poznyak rush about. Belarus follows the path of breaking up its own state. And the bow is not eternal, its foundation has defended only 20 years, and with it almost on the "nay". It means. the next one will stupidly merge the Republic of Belarus, even the most loyal patriot, since Luka has built a closed power, which means that he cannot develop and integrate.
  • Decimalegio
    Decimalegio 10 January 2021 22: 08
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    Quote: Captain Pushkin
    Quote: Stroporez
    I agree! The capital of the union state is in Smolensk, and the republican ones are in the same place where they were.

    The geometrical center of Russia is Krasnoyarsk. Why not move the capital to Krasnoyarsk?

    laughing laughing laughing
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 11 January 2021 09: 36
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      There is also the concept of the main settlement zone. It is desirable that the capital be closer to its center. In general, how many countries do you know where the capital is located in the geographic center of the country?
  • Ugochaves
    Ugochaves 11 January 2021 07: 58
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    Quote: Nyrobsky
    It is necessary to choose a place equidistant from NATO "friends" and, just in case, from China

    Then to the North Pole wassat
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 11 January 2021 09: 37
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      Canada is nearby, a NATO country.)
  • Naive
    Naive 11 January 2021 08: 41
    0
    And all his life he declares so, first ... And then WHO DID IT AYA-YAI! And Kolya said that he does not drink pills and is generally a bad patient.
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 11 January 2021 09: 03
    -1
    here is a cleverly done man))) again something .. it is necessary))) by God))) would have been in Russia for a long time and did not like the brain)))
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 January 2021 09: 23
    +1
    I wonder if the mustachioed man in general at least sometime held the understanding that not only Russia should help the so-called Belarus, but equally Belarus should help Russia? And how not a very reasonable person, is used to the fact that Russia supposedly should just give the fact of its existence. Listening to a mustache is like being in a madhouse. laughing
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 11 January 2021 10: 14
      +1
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      I wonder if the mustachioed man in general at least sometime held the understanding that not only Russia should help the so-called Belarus, but equally Belarus should help Russia? And how not a very reasonable person, is used to the fact that Russia supposedly should just give the fact of its existence. Listening to a mustache is like being in a madhouse. laughing

      hi
      Lukashenka's psychopathic megalomania!
      πάθος “suffering, pain, illness”) is a psychopathological syndrome that manifests itself in the form of a constellation of such traits as callousness towards others, reduced ability to empathize, inability to sincerely repent of harming other people, deceit, self-centeredness and superficiality ..
  • Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 11 January 2021 09: 51
    +1
    that is, we are talking about free gas?)
  • realmadmaxx
    realmadmaxx 11 January 2021 16: 03
    +1
    I would run from such an "ally" as Lukashenka
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 11 January 2021 17: 37
    0
    Bulboführer Chot got fed up and forgot how to anneal as before laughing
  • COJIDAT
    COJIDAT 12 January 2021 01: 20
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    Closer Old Man only in the Opu! )