"And then, and today, the Turkish army is in defense of the oppressed": Turkish Defense Minister on the Battle of Sarikamysh

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The Turkish Defense Minister made a statement during the memorial events dedicated to the next anniversary of the end of the Sarikamysh battle (operation). This is an offensive operation of the Ottoman army against the Russian troops in December 1914 - January 1915. As a result of the fighting, the 3rd Turkish army was defeated, which ultimately made it possible to disrupt the Ottoman plans to seize the Transcaucasus during the First World War. The plans of the then Ottoman elites to unleash an uprising of Muslim peoples and communities in the Russian Empire were also thwarted.

Despite the defeat in that operation, in Turkey it is remembered, and often as "a failure for the next step forward."



According to the current Minister of Defense of Turkey Hulusi Akar, "both then and today the Turkish army stood and stands in the defense of the oppressed." Hulusi Akar:

The memory of the Turkish soldiers who laid down their heads in the Battle of Sarikamish will forever remain in our hearts.

The Greek press paid particular attention to this statement. Columnist Giorgis Matsakos writes that "Ankara is trying to position itself as the savior of Muslims," ​​noting the words of the Turkish minister about the continuation of actions in Libya.

It is noted that today Turkey is trying to justify the actual invasion of the Caucasus during the First World War by “protecting the oppressed”.
Hulusi Acar:

Our forces in Libya are on the side of the oppressed Libyan people, and we will continue to act against terrorists.

At the same time, by "terrorists" Akar understands the units of the Libyan National Army, commanded by Marshal Haftar.

The head of the Turkish Ministry of Defense in his speech also said that today the Turkish armed forces "are making a contribution to ensuring security from Azerbaijan and Afghanistan to Kosovo, Libya and Somalia."
The Greek observer, commenting on the reference to the Sarikamysh operation, recalled how it ended for Turkey:

The Turkish campaign ended tragically for the Ottomans: tens of thousands of soldiers were killed, thousands froze in the Caucasus mountains, thousands more were captured and perished in Siberia.
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  1. +20
    10 January 2021 13: 42
    Actually, let them remember that Turkey has always fought with Russia UNSUCCESSFULLY ... From defeat to defeat. Let genetic memory tell you where you shouldn't go.
    1. +22
      10 January 2021 13: 52
      As far as I remember, Russia fought with Turkey 12 times! Result: 7 victories of Russia, 2 victories of Turkey, 3 - Draws! Turks should really think about it!
      As a result of these Wars - Russia only increased its territory!
      1. +8
        10 January 2021 14: 04
        Despite the defeat in that operation, in Turkey it is remembered, and often as "a failure for the next step forward."


        No, well what? A worthy tenacity Yes But worthy of a better use.
        1. +2
          10 January 2021 14: 34
          According to the current Minister of Defense of Turkey Hulusi Akar, "both then and today the Turkish army stood and stands in the defense of the oppressed."

          Turkish Nazis in the power of Erdogan's Turkey, as always, in their revanchist-Ottoman repertoire - and on the Hitlerite model of Nazi Germany!
          1. +13
            10 January 2021 14: 55
            Quote: Tatiana
            Turkish Nazis at the mercy of Erdogan's Turkey

            In the photo - the heir to the Turkish throne in an embrace with ISIS commanders
            1. +4
              10 January 2021 15: 15
              The Turkish Defense Minister made a statement during the memorial events dedicated to the next anniversary of the end of the Sarikamysh battle (operation). it offensive operation of the Ottoman army against the Russian troops in December 1914 - January 1915. As a result of the fighting, the 3rd Turkish army was defeated, which as a result, it allowed to disrupt the Ottoman plans to seize Transcaucasia during the First World War. Also the plans of the then Ottoman elites to unleash an uprising of Muslim peoples and communities in the Russian Empire were thwarted.

              If we recall the aggressive plans of the then Turkish elites in 1914-1915 against the Republic of Ingushetia with the current plans of the Erdoganian Turkey elites, then Turkey, as it was then, is now the main danger in the southern direction for Russia, and it remains so.

              Turkey Erdogan for several years in a row and is now especially active in geopolitics with Russia on the verge of breaking off relations with the Russian Federation. Namely.
              Erdogan's Turkey behaves without regard for our Russian national interests in the Transcaucasus and Central Asia. There are already tens of thousands of Turkish presence there. And this is already the FRONT !!!

              This is the opinion of Russian military experts quite objectively and quite logically.
              1. +1
                10 January 2021 15: 54
                Quote: Svetlana
                Quote: Tatiana
                Turkish Nazis at the mercy of Erdogan's Turkey

                In the photo - the heir to the Turkish throne in an embrace with ISIS commanders
                There is nothing surprising!
                For Erdogan himself and his family are not just neo-Ottomanists, but they are Islamists!

                REFERENCE on Islam itself.
                "Islam" means "obedience".
                The author of the idea of ​​WORLD MUSLIM DOMINANCE was the prophet Mahammed, who in 622 in Medina founded the first Muslim ummah.
                Muhammad divided the whole world into three large parts.
                First - "dar al-islam" - included Islamized countries with the DOMINATION OF SHARI'A
                Second part of the world received the name "dar al-kufr", that is, TTHE ERRITORY OF THE UNBELIEVED, where other religions prevailed and Islam had to live quietly and unnoticed.
                Rђ RІRѕS, in the third part of the world - "dar al-harb", that is, a TERRITORY OF WAR - Islam was obliged to use the methods of jihad to include this territory in the blessed world of "the gift of al-Islam."
                TOTAL Islam historically initially wore a Militant religious-missionary GLOBALIST character. And wears this CAPTIVE militancy under the religious flag of the religious Islamist-Ottoman ideology in Turkey and NOW!
                For details see - https://zen.yandex.ru/media/istok/kto-avtor-idei-mirovogo-musulmanskogo-gospodstva-5fb380c97eb1fe4ba0788440

                And ISIS are the proven PROXY militants of Erdogan himself and the Turkish Nazi Islamists. Of course, it was not without US support. But nevertheless it is so.
                With their help, Turkey and the family of Erdogan himself plundered and robbed Syria of Assad. With their help, Turkey also fought in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict on the side of Azerbaijan against the Armenians.
                And the fact that Aliyev does not recognize the participation of Turkish proxy militants in the war between Azerbaijan and the NKR does not mean that this is not so. For the intelligence services of other countries are well aware of this and they do not hide it.

                Sergey Naryshkin - about Karabakh, about mercenaries fighting on the side of Azerbaijan, about Turkish special services 2020 • 6 nov. 2020 year
                1. +2
                  10 January 2021 16: 34
                  Sorry, but I disagree with you. You clearly emphasize some kind of Salafi (Wahhabi) interpretation of Islam. The Prophet Muhammad made about 80 campaigns, of which only two ended in real battles and only 280 people died in them ON BOTH SIDES THAT WHAT YOU DESCRIBED IS NOT ISLAM. THIS IS WAHHABISM
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                  2. +1
                    11 January 2021 09: 18
                    When good Muslims blow people up, they shout Allah Akbar.
                    Tell them what the bad Wahhabis shout before the explosion, so that I can distinguish one from the other.
        2. +3
          10 January 2021 15: 04
          Turkey's armed forces "are contributing to security from Azerbaijan and Afghanistan to Kosovo, Libya and Somalia."

          It smelled like an imperial spirit.
        3. +3
          10 January 2021 19: 25
          Quote: Insurgent
          Despite the defeat in that operation, in Turkey it is remembered, and often as "a failure for the next step forward."


          No, well what? A worthy tenacity Yes But worthy of a better use.



          Quote: Albert Einstein
          It's crazy to do the same thing and expect a different result every time
          hi
        4. 0
          11 January 2021 12: 15
          so they determined the direction of that persistence ..................................
          every century has its own Middle Ages.
      2. -2
        10 January 2021 14: 06
        Turks don't think. They have nothing to think with. lol
      3. +6
        10 January 2021 15: 13
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Turks should really think about it!
        As a result of these Wars - Russia only increased its territory!

        That means they beat me a little, if they still want to.
        1. +2
          10 January 2021 19: 27
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Hunter 2
          Turks should really think about it!
          As a result of these Wars - Russia only increased its territory!

          That means they beat me a little, if they still want to.

          Do you know what this perversion is called? Masochism.
          1. +1
            10 January 2021 20: 34
            Quote: Nagan
            Do you know what this perversion is called? Masochism.

            Also will do. Exorcism is a custom or ritual within the framework of various religions and beliefs, consisting in the expulsion of demons from a person.
  2. +8
    10 January 2021 13: 44
    Of course. Everyone around is oppressed, they all need to be quickly protected.
    1. +4
      10 January 2021 14: 04
      Turkey must first liberate the oppressed inside, and only then think about how to bring Turkish freedom to the world. negative
    2. Cat
      +5
      10 January 2021 15: 24
      Everyone around is oppressed, they all need to be quickly protected

      Apparently, the main threat to the oppressed was then the Armenians, then the Kurds, now, apparently, the Greeks and Syrians. And the Saudis are brazenly oppressing oil fields.
  3. +11
    10 January 2021 13: 46
    The Turks are making more and more claims to everything around ...
  4. +8
    10 January 2021 13: 56
    "Turkey was, is and will be Russia's worst enemy on its southern borders." - this is approximately the meaning of the words of this Turk. Nothing new.
  5. +9
    10 January 2021 14: 03
    The head of the Turkish Defense Ministry in his speech also said that today the Turkish armed forces "Contribute to ensuring security from Azerbaijan and Afghanistan to Kosovo, Libya and Somalia."

    I have been writing for a long time - Erdogan on the shoulders of Russia climbed into Syria, Azeibarjan and Ukraine. (I was "booed" here.) Now the Turks do not hide it, on the contrary, they flaunt it officially. First the foreign minister, now the defense minister. Our "sand-Zakharovs" do not yet know what to say to yesterday's "Turkish-friends". Peskov generally made his career in Turkey, even under Yeltsin. And what to say, talking heads, if they do not receive the control center from above ?! It seems that TSU itself is in time trouble, from "friend-erdogan".
  6. -4
    10 January 2021 14: 15
    laughing Walking wide, you can not loose your pants. Resantiment - it is. The Armenians urgently need to chip in for three new S-400 divisions. Nothing personal just business laughing A Turk is immediately a huckster, and then a robber. On occasion, if he knows that he is guaranteed not to get hit by the horns.
  7. +1
    10 January 2021 14: 24
    Let Europe save the Bulgarians next time. Let them write down at least now how NATO liberated the country laughing
    1. +6
      10 January 2021 15: 01
      Do not whine, it was not you who set us free, but your ancestors, to whom we bow deeply. And we don't hope for people like you for a long time, but we still respect Russians. As long as the majority of Russians are in VO with unwashed brains and reasoning adequately, you cannot play us off.
      1. +10
        10 January 2021 15: 21
        Quote: Gado
        As long as the majority of Russians are in VO with unwashed brains and reasoning adequately, you cannot play us off.

        The Bulgarian people and the Russian people have always been one, and now they are one. But many of course want us to become enemies as Ukrainians. But I hope and even am sure that it will not come to such as with Ukraine with Bulgaria. Moreover, neither Bulgaria nor Russia have Bandera and Nazis. Happy New Year and Merry Christmas to you.
        1. +2
          10 January 2021 18: 42
          Thank you, and Happy New Year and Merry Christmas! As I wrote above, you, no matter how hard Gennady tried, are sane, the majority and such provocateurs as Fomkin, thank God, are a minority. I hope the New Year will bring more health and happiness to everyone. Amine!
  8. 0
    10 January 2021 14: 40
    To distort history in its own way, it is now "possible".
    Although they have sinned with this before, consider all the same!
  9. +10
    10 January 2021 14: 41
    Neither the Sarikamysh operation, nor the position of Turkey during WWII, nor the events that led to the outbreak of the Cuban missile crisis, taught the Russian authorities that there is nothing to do with the Turks:
    If a Turk speaks of peace, then there will be war.

    But what struck me the most was the words:
    Matsakos writes that "Ankara is trying to position itself as the savior of Muslims"

    Who is it that offends Muslims so much? In what Christian country (or else where) Muslims were publicly cut off their heads? Yes, they themselves are ready to cut each other's throats in the dispute about the "beginning and end of the stick" ...
    But it turns out that Turkey is a messiah country ...
    1. +4
      10 January 2021 15: 07
      Quote: yuriy55
      did not teach the Russian authorities that one should not have any business with the Turks

      Over the XNUMXth century, "Russian power" has self-degraded and self-destroyed many times, created and fed hostile regimes. And the Turks did not catch flies with their mouths, so they made a good gesheft. And they continue to do so. Well, not only Turks, of course. Nothing personal.
    2. 0
      10 January 2021 19: 41
      Quote: yuriy55
      Who is it that offends Muslims so much? In what Christian country (or else where) Muslims were publicly cut off their heads? Yes, they themselves are ready to cut each other's throats in the dispute about the "beginning and end of the stick" ...
      But it turns out that Turkey is a messiah country ...

      Well, of course, it is in Muslim countries that the heads of Muslims are cut off as an argument in the dispute "my Allah is greater than yours", and they have been doing this regularly since the division into Sunnis and Shiites. Probably because "Islam is the religion of peace" © Barack Hussein Obama
  10. +4
    10 January 2021 15: 04
    Despite the defeat in that operation, in Turkey it is remembered, and often as "a failure for the next step forward."

    Today's Turkish authorities want so much to have a history of victories to rally the nation around them, that when there is no opportunity to boast of them, they have to pass off their defeats as some kind of "override"!
  11. +3
    10 January 2021 15: 07
    Yeah, let the Armenians be told about this, and the Bulgarians remember something, and other peoples.
    1. 0
      10 January 2021 15: 45
      Quote: Ros 56
      Yeah, let the Armenians be told about this, and the Bulgarians remember something, and other peoples.

      And half of Europe remembers the Turkish yoke, and Austria also remembers the Turkish army at its walls. Nobody is forgotten and nothing is forgotten. And most importantly, everyone remembers the Great Turkish War since 1683, between the Ottoman Empire and the union of Christian states, which included the Holy Roman Empire (Habsburg Austria), Rzeczpospolita, the Russian Kingdom, the Venetian Republic and Malta.
  12. +10
    10 January 2021 15: 10
    I didn’t know that the Turks had invented the impudence. Live and learn.
    We must return to the theme of the First World War - Why keep such a state alive at all or tear it apart and put an end to this neo-Ottoman melodrama? The "sick man of Europe" has clearly not recovered.
    The only question is who will hurry up to take Constantinople ... laughing
    1. -1
      10 January 2021 17: 59
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      The only question is who will hurry up to take Constantinople ...

      Hinting at Jews?
    2. 0
      10 January 2021 19: 16
      Quote: Keyser Soze
      The only question is who will hurry up to take Constantinople ...

      Bulgaria is the closest one. As a last resort, you can join Turkey and control.
      1. +3
        10 January 2021 20: 19
        Bulgaria is the closest


        The last time the army was stopped at 22 km. from Constantinople ... we immediately received two friendly ultimatums from the Republic of Ingushetia and Austria-Hungary, otherwise they would have taken it easily. A combat-ready Turkish army no longer existed near the city. Now take it yourself ... there, deal with the Greeks as you want, after all, the city of Constantine. laughing
  13. -4
    10 January 2021 15: 11
    Is there at least one neighbor of Russia to whom we cannot say "We can repeat"?
  14. +4
    10 January 2021 15: 15
    "And then, and today the Turkish army is in the defense of the oppressed"


    Translated into human terms, we have lost fear and do not see the shores, and in general we believe that the Russian Federation can be moved somewhere else.
  15. +5
    10 January 2021 15: 41
    According to the current Minister of Defense of Turkey Hulusi Akar, "both then and today the Turkish army stood and stands in the defense of the oppressed."

    Yeah. Like "We will not allow anyone to oppress you! We will oppress you ourselves!" wassat
  16. 0
    10 January 2021 15: 51
    Our forces in Libya are on the side of the oppressed Libyan people, and we will continue to act against terrorists.
    ... One half of the population turns out to "oppress" the other ... So this is the CIVIL WAR and Turkey "fit into it", and this is called "intervention"
  17. +2
    10 January 2021 15: 55
    Quote: figvam
    Turkey's armed forces "are contributing to security from Azerbaijan and Afghanistan to Kosovo, Libya and Somalia."

    It smelled like an imperial spirit.

    Not a hat for Senka. Their navel will be untied.
  18. +1
    10 January 2021 15: 58
    Quote: sleeve
    Is there at least one neighbor of Russia to whom we cannot say "We can repeat"?

    Is Russia to blame for their unsatisfactory behavior?
    Well, if we can, why be ashamed?))
  19. +4
    10 January 2021 16: 23
    We should also declare Izmail and Rymnik all-Turkish holidays. Still, very extraordinary battles came out, significant!
  20. 0
    10 January 2021 17: 09
    Then Lenin "got into a mess" with Turkey. Although the "Leader of the World Proletariat" has enough mistakes. They also made it a cult of worship.
  21. 0
    10 January 2021 18: 20
    Of course, every sandpiper praises his swamp, but ...
    The Turkish campaign ended tragically for the Ottomans: tens of thousands of soldiers were killed, thousands froze in the Caucasus mountains, thousands more were captured and perished in Siberia.
    - hurray, guys! soldier
  22. 0
    10 January 2021 18: 27
    Let these defenders of the oppressed remember on the ruins of which empire they live and where the population of that empire disappeared. Also my defenders.
  23. -5
    10 January 2021 18: 31
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Gado
    As long as the majority of Russians are in VO with unwashed brains and reasoning adequately, you cannot play us off.

    The Bulgarian people and the Russian people have always been one, and now they are one. But many of course want us to become enemies as Ukrainians. But I hope and even am sure that it will not come to such as with Ukraine with Bulgaria. Moreover, neither Bulgaria nor Russia have Bandera and Nazis. Happy New Year and Merry Christmas to you.

    Only a naive one can believe that a bunch of Russophiles in this country decide something, No. I don’t believe it for a long time.
    1. 0
      10 January 2021 19: 01
      It's not for you to judge, thank God. What you believe in or not is up to you. But a bunch of Russophiles - it is, and you are in VO yourself, with your brothers, in the minority, and your efforts are still in vain.
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    1. -1
      10 January 2021 19: 09
      Wolf, learn Russian better. I know that Russian was unpopular in Serbia, although your Russian brothers still believe that this is not so. From what you wrote, I understood almost nothing, and I am Bulgarian. And the Russians, I'm sure, did not understand anything. And your interpretation of history is also not understandable.
      1. -1
        10 January 2021 22: 55
        So the BULGARIN is RESURRECTION today and I so want to write the TRUTH AND TRUTH, because terrible times are coming, and it’s time for people to learn what really happened !!!
        1. -1
          10 January 2021 23: 10
          Read and READ CAREFULLY !!! The last Bulgarian King Bulgarin was BORIS 9th century !!! Samuel kotori seized the throne od Boris had 3 brothers, Aron, David and Moisie !!! History says that he was an Armenian, but like everything else, FALSE !!! In fact, already in the 9th century, before the offensive of various Papaus from the BV and Central Asia through Bulgaria, Samuel was between them. I don’t know how he managed to take the throne from Boris, but in the 9th century, KING OF SERBOV STROIMIR VLASTIMIROVICH Fought with Boris and in Bulgaria !!! Boris lost a large part of Bulgaria, then there is no today, he was weakened and there were a lot of Papaus who came! IN THE 9TH CENTURY OF THE SLAVS OF SERBI WERE LETTERS HAVE THEIR LETTER AND HAVE A PATRIYARSHIA !!! SEAL OF KING STROIMIR VLASTIMIROVICH WITH PATRIYARSHISKY CROSS OF THE 9TH CENTURY AND SERBIAN LETTERS !!! YELINI WAS NOT WRITING THE LETTER "C" AS WE AND WE HAVE 2 LETTERS "AND" AND AND I "THEY ONLY 1" I "!!!
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                        11 January 2021 00: 31
                        The Papaus who attacked the Balkans from the east through Bulgaria because Constantinople kept the doors to the Bosphorus left by the Serbs, who dealt with the Papaus and the crusaders all before the assassination of Tsar Dusan in the 14th century. Then begins the destruction of one by one the kingship of the Serbs, but the last one was the power of Brankovich in the middle of the 15th century. This was the end of the city to the power of Constantine, Constantinople fell in 1453.
                      7. 0
                        11 January 2021 00: 39
                        Why do people in Bulgaria still respect King Milutin and queens Mrnachevich Volkashin and King Mark and that they still eat songs about them in Bulgaria? Because the Bulgarian people delayed the genetic mention of who they are and who are the kings to them and who defended them by the invasion of the Papaus from BV and Central Asia !!! wink
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                        12 January 2021 11: 48
                        And today in NATO and prepares you that bi like a dog with a new fought against the Serbs and Ruski !!!
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  26. -1
    10 January 2021 18: 46
    And now let's listen to Edik, so to speak with the person (no translation laughing )
  27. -1
    10 January 2021 18: 59
    Turkey sees its future in the European Union, President Tayyip Erdogan said during negotiations with the head of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen. , restore mutual trust and put an end to discriminatory actions and rhetoric against Turkey, "the administration added ... Given the deplorable financial situation of the EU and the growing contradictions within the EU, Turkey (and not only) will most likely squeeze out a large part of the EU as colonies. laughing .... About plan B, Erdogan is silent. Ursulka would not have become with her colleagues the Young Ottomans.  wassat
  28. -2
    10 January 2021 19: 07
    Quote: Gado
    It's not for you to judge, thank God. What you believe in or not is up to you. But a bunch of Russophiles - it is, and you are in VO yourself, with your brothers, in the minority, and your efforts are still in vain.

    What is it? laughing judging how you "canceled" the sanctions?
  29. -2
    10 January 2021 19: 22
    The other day I came across an interesting article about the everyday life of our "brotherly" Montenegro. The article is interesting, informative, but one phrase caught on - "Russia will understand." The point is that the new Montenegrin government promised its electors a rapprochement with Russia, lifting the sanctions, etc., but threw its supporters and is creeping by leaps and bounds towards the European Union. It is precisely in this phenomenon that is not funny and pernicious for us - “Russia will understand and forgive everything,” I urge you to take a closer look at THIS. we produce, let these benefits remain for us ”“ You are the smartest and strongest - go to your army and soldiers yourself, we are too small and fragile for that, and of course, we will share your victories and spoils equally - “friendship of peoples”. HERE IS THAT "little brothers" Continue to put minus signs for those who have no mind, and I'll see how many of you laughing
    1. 0
      12 January 2021 12: 43
      Gennady, WHERE DID YOU READ IT AND WHO WRITTEN? And there, in Russia, the floor of the media works for the enemy! wink Quiet and slow, Montenegro has just freed itself from the NATO OCCUPATION !!! They need to meet with the Seibs in Belgrade and the Serbs in Banja Luka, and then we will SPEAK! The surface is clear the road at this time!
  30. -2
    10 January 2021 19: 25
    My uncle has been describing for 70 years how good Bulgarians they are, friendly and all that. What I asked him - and what is it that Bulgarians have done to us for the last 200 years so that we treat them like that? I never got an answer ..
  31. -1
    10 January 2021 20: 30
    Not VERY Smart turned out to be ONE (brother) laughing Slavic-philes and have nothing to answer laughing
  32. -1
    10 January 2021 20: 34
    All this wrung out then drags out a miserable existence, the example of northern Cyprus is very indicative. laughing Unfortunately, there is no significant flow of rabies through Russia. There is nothing to negotiate about ...

    It's a pity, Erdogan won that Europeans understand kicks very well ... they have problems with understanding human speech ...
  33. +1
    11 January 2021 16: 14
    I would like to wish the Kurds good luck in their quest for independence from such "defenders of the oppressed."
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  35. 0
    12 January 2021 16: 12
    Quote: Gado
    Do not whine, it was not you who set us free, but your ancestors, to whom we bow deeply. And we don't hope for people like you for a long time, but we still respect Russians. As long as the majority of Russians are in VO with unwashed brains and reasoning adequately, you cannot play us off.

    And you don't touch my great-great-grandfather, his photograph is always on my desk and "we know respect" You live there - well, live. Just don't transfer your impressions to ALL situations in life - don't write garbage, dear.