In Ukraine, they spoke about the preparation of a secret operation to disrupt the "annexation" of Crimea

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In Ukraine, they spoke about the preparation of a secret operation to disrupt the "annexation" of Crimea

In Ukraine, they talked about the preparation of a secret operation to disrupt the "annexation" of Crimea by Russia. As reported, the preparation of the operation to protect the peninsula from the Russians was carried out at the headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

In the winter of 2014, the Armed Forces of Ukraine began to prepare a secret operation to prevent the annexation of the peninsula. In order to protect Crimea, it was planned to transfer the most combat-ready airborne units to its territory.



According to the former deputy of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Serhiy Krivonos, who headed the headquarters of the Airborne Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2014, preparations for the operation were carried out in February 2014. It was planned to start in early March. At that time, a reconnaissance company from the 25th Airborne Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was on the exercises on the territory of the peninsula, it was also planned to transfer scouts from the Kirovograd Special Purpose Regiment and the 79th Airmobile Brigade from Nikolaev. They were supposed to join the units deployed on the peninsula and organize the defense of the Crimea.

(...) many military units were oriented to act according to this plan in order to repel likely attempts to seize territories. Among them are the Airborne Forces units: the 25th airborne brigade and the 79th airmobile brigade. (...) They were supposed to enter Crimea, take positions and strengthen the grouping in Crimea, which was at that time in the Armed Forces of Ukraine

- said Krivonos, adding that the General Staff of the Armed Forces developed a three-stage plan for the liberation of Crimea.

It is emphasized that the Ukrainian paratroopers were ready to "give battle" to the Russian invaders of the peninsula, but the order was never received, since many units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces surrendered to the Russians without a fight or went over to their side.
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    1. +49
      10 January 2021 11: 42
      Allegedly, if only ... I would say so - "the most combat-ready" went out of their way.
      1. +57
        10 January 2021 11: 50
        Quote: Welldone
        Allegedly, if only ... I would say so - "the most combat-ready" went out of their way.

        No, they didn’t screw up, but surrendered without a fight or went over to the side of the Russian Federation))). That's all drinks
        1. +45
          10 January 2021 12: 00
          Quote: Sayan
          No, they didn’t screw up, but surrendered without a fight or went over to the side of the Russian Federation))). That's all

          Now you can compose whatever you want ... those plans were secret!
          1. +42
            10 January 2021 12: 14
            In general, in that situation, it was profitable for the entire Ukrainian army to leave for Russia. what But the army lohannels. request
            1. +4
              10 January 2021 14: 41
              Quote: bessmertniy
              In general, in that situation, it was profitable for the entire Ukrainian army to leave for Russia. But the army lohannels.

              We would not be able to feed them all, and there would be no positions for them. So it’s good that they didn’t do that - for a long time we would have to carry out the cleaning, and with unpredictable consequences ...
            2. +5
              10 January 2021 20: 47
              Quote: bessmertniy
              In general, in that situation, it was profitable for the entire Ukrainian army to leave for Russia. what But the army lohannels. request

              The Crimean units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine didn’t give up, but in full force went over to the side of the Russian Federation and continue to serve in our army. They defend their homeland instead of killing their fellow citizens and receive a good salary.
          2. +16
            10 January 2021 12: 27
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Quote: Sayan
            No, they didn’t screw up, but surrendered without a fight or went over to the side of the Russian Federation))). That's all

            Now you can compose whatever you want ... those plans were secret!

            Yes, yes, so secret ... in general, as in the joke about the elusive joe laughing
            1. +6
              10 January 2021 13: 14
              Ukroskazki on the topic: "We would give them if they did not give up!" laughing laughing laughing
              1. +20
                10 January 2021 13: 54
                well they tried something later in the southeast
                Outcome-7 boilers of the Ukrainian army hi
                By the way, together with those parts about which this Ukrainian storyteller speaks hi
                And they have not yet directly encountered the Russian army, as expected! wink
              2. +3
                10 January 2021 20: 07
                Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                Ukroskazki on the topic: "We would give them if they did not give up!" laughing laughing laughing

                Well, yes, like "I would give him so, if he caught up with me!"
            2. +2
              10 January 2021 18: 26
              Quote: Sayan
              in general, as in the joke about the elusive joe

              So this is an anecdote, but life -
              https://www.yaplakal.com/forum28/topic2214905.html
          3. +25
            10 January 2021 12: 39
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            .the plans were secret!

            Funny what that ... If the plans are secret, why tell? It would be better if they said: "We have secret plans, and what - we will not tell."
            1. +5
              10 January 2021 14: 59
              "We have such devices, but we will not tell you about them" "we are hiding in black holes"))))
          4. nnm
            +7
            10 January 2021 12: 39
            Yeah. I remember "after a fight they don't wave their fists." And now you can tell and compose anything.
          5. -2
            10 January 2021 13: 50
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            Quote: Sayan
            No, they didn’t screw up, but surrendered without a fight or went over to the side of the Russian Federation))). That's all
            Now you can compose whatever you want ... those plans were secret!

            The most revealing episode in this bloodless epic was the events of the night seizure by Russian paratroopers of the base of the 1st Feodosiya Naval Infantry Battalion of the Ukrainian Navy under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Dmitry Delyatitsky. The behavior of this officer, who never received a single intelligible order from the political leadership in Kiev, until the last urging his soldiers to remain faithful to the oath, was also highly respected by our interlocutors in the Russian Ministry of Defense. : "Novaya Gazeta" No. 42 dated April 18, 2014
            Well, at least one decent officer was found
            1. +16
              10 January 2021 14: 45
              Quote: Pete Mitchell
              1st Feodosiya Naval Infantry Battalion of the Ukrainian Navy under the command of Lieutenant Colonel Dmitry Delyatitsky. The behavior of this officer, who never received a single intelligible order from the political leadership in Kiev, until the last urging his soldiers to remain faithful to the oath, was also highly respected by our interlocutors in the Russian Ministry of Defense. : "Novaya Gazeta" No. 42 dated April 18, 2014
              Well, at least one decent officer was found

              The battalion was mainly formed from the natives of western Ukraine. The officers trained in the United States. Well, when our people surrounded this "elite", they asked to imitate the battle ... Motivating this by the fact that they would have to return to Ukra. And so it happened. There were shots, imitation of grenade explosions, and a banal scuffle of the "elite" Ukrii ".. Then, those who wanted to go to batkivshynu, drove proudly. Decorated with battle wounds .....- blanches under the eyes and bruises on the asses ... .... Heroes! Their mother Svidomo woman !!
              1. +6
                10 January 2021 14: 50
                Quote: 30 vis
                So it happened
                Against the general background, at least somehow they showed resourcefulness of mind. And figs with them ..., the number of fables will only increase
              2. +1
                13 January 2021 16: 26
                Quote: 30 vis
                Well, when our people surrounded this "elite", they asked to imitate the battle ... Motivating this by the fact that they would have to return to Ukra. And so it happened. There were shots, imitation of grenade explosions, and a banal scuffle of the "ukrii" elite

                EMNIP, this "contractual match" was even included in the video about the actions of the CLO in Crimea - night landing from a helicopter, storming buildings (flash noise, tracers - all rank by rank), a number of detainees lined up against the wall of the building, etc.
                1. 0
                  13 January 2021 18: 11
                  It was interesting . But facts are stubborn things ...
          6. +3
            10 January 2021 15: 21
            What are the secrets, if almost all the colonels and generals of the Armed Forces of Ukraine studied TOGETHER with the Russians in the same military academies?
          7. +2
            10 January 2021 16: 58
            Good. Laughed .. There were a lot of plans .. It was. Phantom pain.
        2. +15
          10 January 2021 12: 12
          Over time, the zrada turns into a change laughing
          1. -13
            10 January 2021 13: 45
            Hee-hee. Yes Ha-Ha.
            They all laughed.
            Dear commentators. Most of you are military.
            What do you think, at the main headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, did the officers pick in the nose in 2013-2014? And seeing where Ukraine is heading did not make plans to counter the entry of Russian troops? The headquarters is the headquarters to draw up plans, and then how the generals decide with the presidents, this is no longer the staff's business.
            1. +10
              10 January 2021 14: 48
              >> And seeing

              Yes, it does not seem to have seen, otherwise the Maidan would have been rolled out by tanks like in Tiananmen. Well, now they are their own spiteful Buratins and storytellers.
            2. +2
              10 January 2021 20: 55
              Quote: Raven-95
              Hee-hee. Yes Ha-Ha.
              They all laughed.
              Dear commentators. Most of you are military.
              What do you think, at the main headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, did the officers pick in the nose in 2013-2014? And seeing where Ukraine is heading did not make plans to counter the entry of Russian troops? The headquarters is the headquarters to draw up plans, and then how the generals decide with the presidents, this is no longer the staff's business.

              As the Crimean history showed, the generals and officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine hoped to the last that Putin, after the Crimea, would put Yanyk on armor and send him on a campaign to Kiev, collecting units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that had gone over to the side of the legally elected president along the way. Therefore, the Ukrainian generals had no plans to take Crimea away. It took two or three months to poke them with Natsik bayonets at the fifth point, so that they began to shoot at their miners in Donetsk.
          2. +9
            10 January 2021 14: 50
            Rostov Papa Over time, zrada turns into a peremog
            Already turned.
        3. +7
          10 January 2021 12: 39
          No, they didn’t screw up, but surrendered without a fight or went over to the side of the Russian Federation
          This is what they were afraid of. If more troops had been brought in, more would have come over to our side. So they didn’t get lost, they released the brakes in time. Otherwise, they would have been left without the most prepared part of the Armed Forces. Then they began to brainwash them intensively.
        4. -35
          10 January 2021 12: 49
          Quote: Sayan
          No, they didn’t screw up, but surrendered without a fight or went over to the side of the Russian Federation))). That's all

          We bought into promises of good salaries, pensions and apartments in Crimea.
          1. +15
            10 January 2021 13: 15
            And, no matter how sad in Ukraine, they got it all.
          2. -11
            10 January 2021 15: 15
            This is why I have always been against the cons. Instruct, instructed, but something reasonable to answer poorly.
            1. +8
              10 January 2021 21: 05
              Quote: vladimirvn
              This is why I have always been against the cons. Instruct, instructed, but something reasonable to answer poorly.

              Most of the soldiers and officers who went over to the Russian side in Crimea are Crimeans themselves. They did not betray their Motherland Crimea. Together with their homeland Crimea, they simply changed the flag and now speak at the service in their native language, familiar from childhood, and not in the alien Austrian language developed in Vienna. So clear or even smaller to chew?
              1. -1
                12 January 2021 19: 26
                Quote: Bearded
                Quote: vladimirvn
                This is why I have always been against the cons. Instruct, instructed, but something reasonable to answer poorly.

                Most of the soldiers and officers who went over to the Russian side in Crimea are Crimeans themselves. They did not betray their Motherland Crimea. Together with their homeland Crimea, they simply changed the flag and now speak at the service in their native language, familiar from childhood, and not in the alien Austrian language developed in Vienna. So clear or even smaller to chew?

                Chew on. It looks like you are at work and you get paid for it. And the real Crimeans joined the Russian army back in 1991-1992. And then the Crimea was pumped up with officers from Central and Western Ukraine.
        5. +7
          10 January 2021 13: 33
          Quote: Sayan
          surrendered without a fight or went over to the side of the Russian Federation))). That's all

          So it was an insignificant part of the "best army in Europe." Now they are developing a "plan B", to surrender their entire "army" to Russia for food, thus inflicting an economic blow on Russia feel
          1. +3
            10 January 2021 21: 09
            Quote: major147
            Quote: Sayan
            surrendered without a fight or went over to the side of the Russian Federation))). That's all

            So it was an insignificant part of the "best army in Europe." Now they are developing a "plan B", to surrender their entire "army" to Russia for food, thus inflicting an economic blow on Russia feel

            This is an old insidious Chinese plan from the times of the confrontation with the USSR.
            We will approach the border in small groups, a millionaire in two, three, then we surrender, and let the Russians feed us.
            The Armed Forces of Ukraine have too few personnel to implement such a plan, and there are too many undeveloped territories in Siberia.
        6. +2
          10 January 2021 18: 04
          to the side of the Russian Federation
          On the side of the people who were sworn in.
      2. +4
        10 January 2021 12: 29
        Has Hollywood bought out the script yet, and has not started filming this tale? ?? Then there are totally all "Colorades" and "hidden agents of the Kremlin" !!! wassat
      3. +3
        10 January 2021 12: 31
        Quote: Welldone
        Allegedly, if only ... I would say so - "the most combat-ready" went out of their way.

        Ostensibly yes, as it were ... And again another bay from our 1st Guards Cave Squadron was carried. Some kind of disease appeared new in the cavalry, similar to rabies. First, they scream madly, foaming at the mouth, then the races begin and they swept over the bumps, with whooping and neighing.
        1. +2
          10 January 2021 13: 25
          Quote: tihonmarine
          then the races begin and they swept over the bumps, with whooping and neighing.

          Vlad, your comment reminded me of the movie Makar the Pathfinder. True, I did not find a short excerpt, watch from 43:00 to 55:00
    2. +25
      10 January 2021 11: 43
      Another sabotage. One volley of the Black Sea Fleet will wipe this Banderia mental hospital three times from the face of the earth. Right now again "give me money", "Biden will come, put things in order", help, help .. fool .
      1. +6
        10 January 2021 12: 22
        People need to be treated, and you, Baloo, offer to erase them from your face belay After all, deeply, deeply, they are also Russian - from ancient Russian roots. And they are just pretending to be ukrami - they believe that they will benefit greatly from this. And there will be no benefit - Biden will suck the last juices out of them. feel
        1. +7
          10 January 2021 12: 37
          Quote: bessmertniy
          People need to be treated, and you, Baloo, offer to erase them from your face

          This is not true. There are also realistic people among the Banderlog, and they understand what the Black Sea Fleet is, not to mention the rest of Russia's military power. As my former boss used to say: whoever eats a girl, dances her. All this nonsense and shaking of the forelocks in order to steal and hide again. Hope for handouts. everyone earns as best he can.
        2. +1
          10 January 2021 13: 06
          Quote: bessmertniy
          And there will be no benefit - Biden will suck the last juices out of them.
          Exactly! He will finish the event successfully started with gutroshenko!
        3. -1
          10 January 2021 13: 10
          Quote: bessmertniy
          After all, deeply, deeply, they are also Russian - from ancient Russian roots.

          If only deeply, deeply, and if closer, starting from 1242, then instead of roots there were only roots.
        4. +3
          10 January 2021 13: 44
          Quote: bessmertniy
          After all, deeply, deeply, they are also Russian - from ancient Russian roots.

          Which means too. Judging by their "roots", there are no more Russians besides them. request

          And it doesn't matter that they make up the story themselves
          They attributed to themselves all the Slavic tribal unions, indiscriminately and common sense, even those who were territorially in present-day Russia and Belarus. And what, in fact, remains for the Ukrainians on the tree of life?
          They considered it possible to juggle the date of the foundation of Moscow - instead of 1147, it was founded by Yuri Dolgoruky, Prince of Kiev, they have it in 1272. I didn't figure out where this date and personalities came from, they invented themselves, probably (it is possible and so, why not)
          The compiler did not bother to understand the Finno-Ugric tribes. At least the Tuva and Buryat tribes look strange in this logical series - these are peoples in the far east and cannot have anything to do with the Finns, rather the Chinese.
          1. +2
            10 January 2021 15: 44
            The guys, after all, it is clear that the history was written for them in the FSA, and these are simply implementing it without thinking about any consequences (neither for themselves, nor for the Slavic world, look at the Poles or Croats, or even Albanians, after all, these were also Slavs once, but they were torn away from their roots and inspired a different story - and voila they are already different. And the Bulgarians look - the eternal enemies of Russia, although Russia helped them in gaining independence, and the very survival of the nation.) The Anglo-Saxons skillfully know how to weave intrigues, even the Roman Empire was flooded with intrigues and we need to take this into account !!
        5. +3
          10 January 2021 15: 28
          To cure them, they first need to be disarmed (and not only from "hardware", but also ideologically), then the perpetrators must be punished (this is the current world - you have to pay for everything).
        6. +1
          10 January 2021 17: 06
          And there will be no benefit - Biden will suck the last juices out of them.
          The junior started the senior will complete.
      2. +2
        10 January 2021 12: 34
        Quote: Balu
        Another sabotage. One volley of the Black Sea Fleet will wipe this Banderia mental hospital three times from the face of the earth.

        An effective vaccine against the mental illness Banderia-dysuria.
      3. +2
        10 January 2021 21: 11
        Quote: Balu
        Another sabotage. One volley of the Black Sea Fleet will wipe this Banderia mental hospital three times from the face of the earth. Right now again "give me money", "Biden will come, put things in order", help, help .. fool .

        Biden will come, gas dug out. laughing lol
    3. +24
      10 January 2021 11: 44
      In Ukraine, they spoke about the preparation of a secret operation to disrupt the "annexation" of Crimea

      The annexation took place in 1991, but unfortunately it was not disrupted.
      1. +12
        10 January 2021 11: 50
        Quote: figvam
        The annexation took place in 1991, but unfortunately it was not disrupted.

        Betrayal, not annexation, was in 1991.
        1. +5
          10 January 2021 12: 21
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Betrayal, not annexation, was in 1991.

          One does not interfere with the other ... someone betrayed others used ..
          1. -4
            10 January 2021 12: 27
            Quote: mat-vey
            One does not interfere with the other ... someone betrayed others used ..

            Yes, and they continue to use it, both with us and with them.
            1. 0
              10 January 2021 12: 29
              So they themselves are far from being creators ... although if you change one letter, then something close will loom ...
      2. +7
        10 January 2021 13: 18
        Actually, the annexation of Crimea was carried out in 1954, and in 2014 Russia simply returned its property.
        1. +7
          10 January 2021 14: 20
          Quote: Andrey Krasnoyarsky
          In fact, the annexation of Crimea was carried out in 1954

          Well, this was squandering of Russian lands inside the USSR, but during the divorce, Yeltsin gave Crimea and the Russian people to another state, a shame forever.
    4. +9
      10 January 2021 11: 47
      According to the former deputy of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Serhiy Krivonos, who headed the headquarters of the Airborne Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 2014, preparations for the operation were carried out in February 2014.


      Ahhh what ... This is the "ex" - Krivonos, that in each collective farm he wanted to have an armed structure autonomous from the Armed Forces of Ukraine called the "Territorial Defense Troops" (VTRO), distributing weapons to the banderlozhtsy "hands", after a mandatory check for loyalty ukroreykh?
      1. +4
        10 January 2021 12: 23
        Quote: Insurgent
        Ah-ah-ah what ... This is the "ex" - Krivonos, that in each collective farm he wanted to have an armed structure autonomous from the Armed Forces of Ukraine called the "Territorial Defense Troops" (VTrO), distributing weapons to the banderlozh people, after a mandatory check on the loyalty of ukroreykh?

        Well, maybe I was inspired by ss .... everything is in line.
        1. +13
          10 January 2021 12: 29
          Quote: mat-vey
          Well, maybe I was inspired by ss .... everything is in line.

          It is extremely interesting, of course - how did the Banderlog intend to check the "adequacy and loyalty" of the potential militants of these units?
          What first comes to mind is to tie on blood, which actually does not contradict the practice of the aforementioned SS and Einsatzgruppen of the Security Police and SD. The only question is - ON WHOSE BLOOD?



          Einsatzgruppe members shoot Jews near Ivangorod, Ukrainian SSR, 1942
          1. +1
            10 January 2021 12: 31
            The SS had, so to speak, a territorial organization of combat units ..
      2. +4
        10 January 2021 12: 43
        Quote: Insurgent
        handing out banderlozhtsam "hands" weapons, after a mandatory check for loyalty ukroreyhu?

        Yes, they still have this weapon from the WWII, but they grabbed it under the Yushchenko-Weltzmans. And loyalty to the Reich is now the highest since the foundation of the "Ukraine project".
        1. 0
          10 January 2021 21: 14
          Parcels laughing lol It's so tolerant. In the spirit of Europa
    5. +12
      10 January 2021 11: 48
      Planned, planned, but the point was bitten by a crowbar
    6. +14
      10 January 2021 11: 50
      In general, the entire current Ukrainian government, even by Western concepts, is terrorist, since it came to power as a result of the assaults and the Maidan ... At least in the United States, the participants in the assault in Washington are now called terrorists ...
      1. +8
        10 January 2021 12: 22
        Please do not compare! There - something else !!! smile
        1. +3
          10 January 2021 14: 51
          Well, yes, there is a man to marry a man, a woman to a woman ... There are miracles! There Biden wanders, Trump sits on the branches ... lol
      2. +4
        10 January 2021 12: 38
        The rebellion cannot end in luck, otherwise its name is different

        Alas, no one has yet been able to refute this truth (
      3. +6
        10 January 2021 12: 48
        Quote: taiga2018
        At least in the United States, the participants in the assault in Washington are now called terrorists ...

        Yes, if the US considers the participants in the assault to be terrorists, then the equal sign stands between the Washington and Kiev terrorists.
      4. +5
        10 January 2021 13: 48
        Quote: taiga2018
        At least in the United States, the participants in the assault in Washington are now called terrorists ...

        “You don’t understand. This is“ different ”! - how our“ liberals ”grunt about this.
      5. 0
        10 January 2021 21: 15
        Quote: taiga2018
        In general, the entire current Ukrainian government, even by Western concepts, is terrorist, since it came to power as a result of the assaults and the Maidan ... At least in the United States, the participants in the assault in Washington are now called terrorists ...

        This is a new criminal wave. Bidenovskaya. And the old one is ruthlessly tamed. (C) Mom, don't worry -2.
    7. +11
      10 January 2021 11: 51
      The only plan that Ukraine has implemented is a 90-fold increase in gas prices for the population.
    8. -8
      10 January 2021 11: 52
      Well, one brigade in the Airborne Forces in the Russian Federation would have added more ... This is unlikely now, but at that time the relations were more neighborly ... It's a pity that in times of turmoil our armies cannot be relied on ...
      1. +9
        10 January 2021 12: 16
        Quote: AlexFly
        It is a pity that in times of turmoil our armies cannot be relied on ...

        WHOSE armies cannot be relied upon? Decipher Yes
        1. 0
          11 January 2021 15: 10
          Duc, for any .... Or do you not know? Standing, watching, as BB & Co overturns everyone, up to parliament ... For example, 93, Russia ...
    9. +2
      10 January 2021 11: 52
      Seems to me that someone is breaking.
      1. +1
        10 January 2021 13: 22
        So now it is possible - “We made a request to the Ministry of Defense and received an answer that there were no intelligence information about the violation of the airspace in Crimea, about the use of the Russian armed forces, about Turchinov’s order about the use of the Armed Forces, there were no orders. these materials were destroyed in 2016-2017 "- the former head of the General Staff of Ukraine Volodymyr Zamana. The leadership of the Ukrainian law enforcement agencies diligently "cleans" the archives, destroying orders not only for the surrender of Crimea, but also those related to hostilities in the Donbass, ex-deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Sergey Melnychuk said on the KRT TV channel.
      2. +2
        10 January 2021 15: 29
        Quote: sabakina
        Seems to me that someone is breaking.

    10. AB
      +8
      10 January 2021 11: 54
      In Ukraine, they told about the secret operation to disrupt the "annexation" of Crimea

      So top secret that the units joined the ranks of the Russian Army in a friendly formation. And the command, which was supposedly aware of the secret-classified operation, in a hurry skidded to the mainland. In short, they wanted a stall operation, but then they forgot, because of secrecy.
      1. +4
        10 January 2021 12: 56
        Quote: AB
        And the command, which was supposedly aware of the secret-classified operation, in a hurry skidded to the mainland.

        They did not scramble, this is a strategic retreat, to preserve the main forces, for the subsequent offensive operation on the enemy. And this was the biggest victory of the Sumerian-Ukrainian armed forces of the XXI century. The whole world remembers this victory.
    11. +3
      10 January 2021 11: 56
      It is emphasized that the Ukrainian paratroopers were ready to "give battle" to the Russian invaders ..

      But
      ..but the order was never received, since many units of the Armed Forces surrendered to the Russians without a fight ..

      И
      ... went over to their side.

      ... why are they writing this? We were ready for battle, but surrendered and went over to the side of the enemy fool
      1. +7
        10 January 2021 12: 02
        Doccor18, why why? Declare war and surrender immediately. Watson, this is elementary!
        1. +1
          10 January 2021 12: 28
          Quote: sabakina
          it's elementary!

          Looking for someone...
        2. +1
          10 January 2021 13: 51
          Quote: sabakina
          Declare war and surrender immediately.

          I'm afraid that is what they are planning now. belay
      2. +6
        10 January 2021 12: 25
        Quote: Doccor18
        We were ready for battle, but surrendered and went over to the side of the enemy

        Directly reminded - we heroically retreated, the enemy pursued us in panic.
        1. +2
          10 January 2021 13: 15
          Quote: mat-vey
          It reminded me directly - we were heroically retreating, the enemy pursued us in panic
          There is another option
          There were 10 of us, there were three of them. We fought, fought until we got level. And as we caught up, we got up and ran. If they caught up with us, if only we kicked them ...
          1. +1
            10 January 2021 13: 55
            Also good )
      3. -2
        10 January 2021 12: 43
        do not write, but speak. it's a movie. and they say, frankly, not quite so. smile
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9h9W9u1Lxk
    12. +7
      10 January 2021 12: 06
      Airborne Armed Forces? These are those in pink berets ??? Mlyayaya ....)))))
      1. +6
        10 January 2021 12: 52
        Quote: ermak124.0
        Airborne Armed Forces? These are those in pink berets ??? Mlyayaya ....)))))

        In fact, the Airborne Forces, as a kind of troops in the "square", did not become long ago, long before the war.
        They are all in the Western manner "airmobile", with limited capabilities for landing aircraft and equipment by parachute method. All emphasis is placed on landing by landing method.

        Therefore, whatever takes them to the head, Вairy Дairborne Вtroop , they cannot be named - by definition.
        1. +1
          10 January 2021 13: 22
          Quote: Insurgent
          Therefore, whatever takes them to the head, the Airborne Troops, they cannot be named - by definition.

          Whatever takes it, takes it for the elite, and for the "shumovdv" - an American cap.
          1. +3
            10 January 2021 13: 34
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Whatever takes it, takes it for the elite, and for the "shumovdv" - an American cap.

            I had to cross with a volunteer from Italy, who had previously served in either airmobile units, or in paratroopers. He had a crimson beret.
            Also like the elite, but not so much that our man, through the "mother-crush", did not accomplish what they, "elite", can do.
            1. +2
              10 January 2021 13: 46
              Quote: Insurgent
              Also like the elite, but not so much that our man, through the "mother-crush", did not accomplish what they, "elite", can do.

              Our grandfathers and fathers know what "noble" warriors from Italians are.
              1. +1
                10 January 2021 13: 52
                Quote: tihonmarine
                Our grandfathers and fathers know what "noble" warriors from Italians are.

                On this occasion I often recall a joint Soviet-Italian feature film about the participation of Italian units in the "Eastern Campaign".
                An episode in which the Italians warm up over fires those who refuse to shoot rifles because of the frost, and pass them along a chain in the trenches ...
                The events of the winter of 1942-43 in the snowy steppes near Stalingrad.
                1. 0
                  10 January 2021 15: 50
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  The events of the winter of 1942-43 in the snowy steppes near Stalingrad.

                  Let them remember, and pass this on to children and grandchildren.
                2. +1
                  11 January 2021 18: 04
                  The film "They went to the East."
                  1. +4
                    12 January 2021 08: 42
                    Quote: Boris Epstein
                    The film "They went to the East."

                    Thank you for reminding me. I forgot the name Yes
      2. 0
        10 January 2021 21: 19
        Quote: ermak124.0
        Airborne Armed Forces? These are those in pink berets ??? Mlyayaya ....)))))

        - Pane ataman, the Russians are advancing.
        - Are there any cute ones?
        - All scary, bearded.
        - Well, then agony. Merciless fire. laughing
    13. -1
      10 January 2021 12: 08
      What a heartbreaking story.
      1. +4
        10 January 2021 13: 19
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        What a heartbreaking story.

        Naturally, here at VO, for mainly to the Russian audience, such a publication looks comical, but it must be borne in mind that it is intended for a reader from the outskirts.

        And there she must call - Oh! Yes Ah!
        1. +4
          10 January 2021 13: 57
          Quote: Insurgent
          on VO, for a predominantly Russian audience such a publication looks comical, but it must be borne in mind that it is intended for a reader on the outskirts

          Seen enough of my gaster-readers, any such crazy speaker delighted them, and was accepted with a bang with cries of "peremog". And everyone tried to poke their smartphone with a peremogy, our estokhs, who twisted their fingers at their temples and silently walked away, like (well, crazy, what can you take from him).
        2. -1
          10 January 2021 14: 23
          Quote: Insurgent
          Naturally, here on VO, for a predominantly Russian audience, such a publication looks comical, but it must be borne in mind that it is intended for a reader from the outskirts.

          Site attendant on duty! soldier
          ))
    14. +2
      10 January 2021 12: 14
      In Ukraine, they spoke about the preparation of a secret operation to disrupt the "annexation" of Crimea

      Annexation? Maybe the narrow-minded Nazi government is hatching plans for indemnities? wassat
      Has there been any talk about the annexation of Russian territories since the 20s?
      1. +3
        10 January 2021 13: 03
        Quote: yuriy55
        Has there been any talk about the annexation of Russian territories since the 20s?

        It's time to turn back what was illegally acquired and pay an indemnity for the use of land and resources.
        1. +3
          10 January 2021 13: 57
          Quote: tihonmarine
          pay an indemnity for the use of land and resources.

          What are you speaking about!? They are there now scratching their turnips, how this year their Western masters will pay 17 billion dollars. Their masters are financed, how not to throw Russia. That money from the crested from the throat on the other hand will pull out their money.
          1. +3
            10 January 2021 15: 48
            Quote: major147
            That money from the crested will be pulled out of the throat on the other hand.

            These guys will not stand on ceremony with the "four hundred and fourth", this is Russia is trying to pretend that we are brothers.
    15. +11
      10 January 2021 12: 18
      In Ukraine, they spoke about the preparation of a secret operation to disrupt the "annexation" of Crimea

      Krivonos, you didn't even know the word “annexation” then.
      And the Americans, neither by their "companions" over Russia, nor by the CIA officers who were sitting in the SBU building, did not even "prochukha" about Russia's plans to return Crimea home. (which they admitted themselves). Returning Crimea home - a tub of icy water on the head of the United States, which had already prepared schemes for the reconstruction of the Sevastopol Bay for NATO ships. crying
      1. +4
        10 January 2021 13: 06
        Quote: askort154
        Returning Crimea home - a tub of icy water on the head of the United States, which had already prepared schemes for the reconstruction of the Sevastopol Bay for NATO ships.

        This is no longer a tub, but a barrel of ice water on the head of the United States. For a hundred years, the "Crimean California" project under development has failed. Blow poddyh - knock.
    16. +4
      10 January 2021 12: 31
      Now these maydauns, who have already established themselves at the "helm of power" in the amerokolonia, can "tell" anything about their imaginary "military talents"! request
      But then, when, after the unexpected flight of the cowardly "ukroprezik" and the "peremogy" of the coup d'etat, the "w / Bandera" with the Bandera "avidly shared portfolios, clubs and stolen goods" and were at the "helm" still in a flimsy suspended state (with the well-known and then for us, in Ukraine, eloquent, urgent permission of the Russian Federation Council to use Russian troops outside the borders of the Russian Federation ...) without full confidence in the strength of their position, it is unlikely that any of these cowardly opportunists (in uniform and without) the thieving "ukropolitikum" was able to take responsibility and give such an order - "to fight with Russia" ( but to fight with their peaceful fellow citizens, anti-Maidan and pro-Russian Crimeans, all the ukrovlasts were by no means afraid and prepared for this, intending to use local bandit detachments of armed Crimean Turkomans for their own purposes from the composition, all the years of "nezalezhnisti" strenuously imported to the peninsula "Crimean Tatars" - from mass extremist actions against the Russian and Russian-speaking Crimean population, they were restrained only by the presence of the Russian naval base and Russian troops, and even then, options were being considered to cut out Russian servicemen with their families on place of residence, for this the Ukronazis and Turkoman extremists were ready during the "time of H"!)
      Indeed, there was no confidence in the implementation of such an order of the illegitimate junta on the ground - every unit commander, in this post-Maidan "timelessness", had the opportunity (and was forced, with the vague "position of Kiev" and the presence of a living legitimate dill-fugitive "Yanyka, then everything was still unclear with this" activist "!!!) to act on the" Vlasny Rozsud (for their own reasons and under their own responsibility) "! Yes
      There were, of course, some insane "polkans" who took it into their heads that "Ameryka z nami" would "fit" for their banderlog (but in Washington they themselves did not expect such a "debauchery of events" in Crimea and such "sudden playfulness" into the corner of the Kremlin, now they are also "telling" their tales, they say, "we didn't want to base ourselves in Sevastopol" ...) .... fool
      But the harsh reality of the already emerging "Crimean spilling of Russia" and the corresponding activity of the Russian military contingent in Crimea quickly knocked down this stupid svido-illusion from the doubters! winked
      1. +2
        10 January 2021 13: 39
        Quote: pishchak
        to fight with their peaceful fellow citizens, anti-Maidan and pro-Russian
        This is not even a school, but Moscow State University, directly: Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine.
        1. +4
          10 January 2021 13: 46
          Quote: sniperino
          This is not even a school, but Moscow State University, directly: Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine.


          It would be better if GUMwhere this trinity could acquire brains ...
          1. 0
            10 January 2021 14: 00
            Quote: Insurgent
            It would be better if there was GUM, where this trinity could acquire brains
            The result would be the same, but for more money: in GUM, nothing of their own is sold, only someone else's. And from other people's brains, albeit very expensive, the head quickly turns into a pot holder.
    17. Cat
      +8
      10 January 2021 12: 34
      Gee ...
      In 19 some year I was preparing a secret operation to capture A. Joli. But something didn't work out request But now you can write awesome stories laughing
      1. +3
        10 January 2021 13: 50
        Quote: Gato
        prepared a secret operation to capture A. Joli
        There is something to remember ...
        1. Cat
          +3
          10 January 2021 14: 16
          There is something to remember ..

          Yes ".. here it was especially difficult for us" (C)
      2. +1
        10 January 2021 14: 00
        Quote: Gato
        I was preparing a secret operation to capture A. Joli.

        She is married! Are you a poacher? bully
        1. Cat
          +4
          10 January 2021 14: 13
          Are you a poacher?

          So the operation was secret. From wife sad
          1. +2
            10 January 2021 14: 16
            Quote: Gato
            So the operation was secret. From wife

            Look, that in a few years no one will publish the "materials" ... am
            1. Cat
              +2
              10 January 2021 14: 20
              So ends in water
              1. 0
                10 January 2021 14: 22
                Quote: Gato
                So ends in water

                good
    18. +2
      10 January 2021 12: 39
      In general, the plan was.
      - Do you have a plan- Mr. Fix?
      - I have a plan!
      1. +2
        10 January 2021 12: 58
        Quote: Zaurbek
        In general, the plan was.
        - Do you have a plan- Mr. Fix?
        - I have a plan!

        More precisely, he was, but he smoked all wassat
      2. 0
        10 January 2021 13: 20
        “Do you have a plan, Mr. Fix? - Do I have a plan? I have a plan !!! I'm going to smoke this Fog !!!
      3. 0
        10 January 2021 14: 39
        Quote: Zaurbek
        In general, the plan was.

        Where will you place the right flank? Left. Left. A wonderful thought. Is the left flank on the right? No, sire, in the center. - Left - in the center. - Аs it shоuld be. A clever disposition. We will completely disorient the Fanfan Tulip enemy.
    19. +2
      10 January 2021 12: 42
      All will not calm down in any way, heroic skakuas. They wave their fists after a fight and wave, wave and wave ...
      1. +1
        10 January 2021 14: 01
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        Waving their fists after a fight

        In which they did not get sickly ...
        1. +1
          10 January 2021 15: 36
          Quote: major147
          In which they did not get sickly ...

          That's why they wave AFTER
      2. +1
        10 January 2021 14: 05
        Quote: Vasyan1971
        They wave their fists after a fight and wave, wave and wave ...

        They wave, wave their fists, it's nice to remember how they got a fist in the face.
    20. +1
      10 January 2021 12: 55
      A brilliantly carried out operation to return Crimea home is a true truth. Everything else is lyric.
    21. 0
      10 January 2021 13: 08
      There were seven of us, there were three of them, we fought until we got equal, so we would give them if they caught up with us !!!
    22. +2
      10 January 2021 13: 08
      In 2014, in fact, in one of the offices of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, in the evening, in one of the general's offices, a plan was developed "to protect the Crimea from the Russians", but then chopped bacon, cucumbers, fresh dill were spread on it, they drank, ate, sprinkled everything ... Only now, after 6 years the sticking out of the vodka has passed, the squirrel left and they remembered! AAA! WHERE WAS THE SAME PLAN !!!!
    23. +1
      10 January 2021 13: 09
      The plan is super secret because it is unknown to anyone. Science fiction writers.
    24. +1
      10 January 2021 13: 10
      laughing laughing laughing Last year's snow was falling. lol lol lol fellow
    25. 0
      10 January 2021 13: 10
      How would our sweetheart eat Vovka! We hope that the USA will help them! Rather, on May 9 there will be a parade on Khreshchatyk! With the passage of Armata, YARS, etc.!
    26. +1
      10 January 2021 13: 10
      It is not interesting! I am waiting for the news when the secret plan for the capture of Moscow was being prepared :) Landing of troops and so on.
      1. +2
        10 January 2021 14: 13
        Quote: silverura
        It is not interesting! I am waiting for the news when the secret plan for the capture of Moscow was being prepared :) Landing of troops and so on.

        How far behind you are from the "flight of ukromysli" feel What's the plan !? They "captured and destroyed" it long ago in their sick heads.
        And here is the confirmation of this
    27. +1
      10 January 2021 13: 28
      Cervantes had a "knight of the sad image", but in the Ukrainian reading the idea was further developed and now these are "heroic fighters of the subjunctive style" :)))
    28. 0
      10 January 2021 13: 32
      Why print this? The Waffen-SS are only intended to cleanse occupied territories of racially inferior elements.
    29. -8
      10 January 2021 13: 33
      There was an agreement that Russia will not send troops to restore the constitutional order in Ukraine, and Ukraine allows a referendum to be held in Crimea ...
      That's all! the thirst to be at the trough, unfortunately, overshadowed all patriotism ...
    30. +3
      10 January 2021 13: 36
      yes, there was no fucking ... woke up
    31. +2
      10 January 2021 13: 44
      If so, it would be too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys fell off, and whoever told these ukram that their paratroopers would shoot the Russian military, most likely they would simply go over to our side as most of the Armed Forces of Ukraine did in Crimea!
    32. +1
      10 January 2021 14: 03
      Fairy tales after 7 years are much to tell. I remember that the same turcha (io.preza at that moment) made excuses that they could not recruit 3 thousand conditionally combat-ready warriors in the spring of 2014 ... grew up. army through Kharkiv-Chernihiv-Sumy will go to Kiev.
    33. 0
      10 January 2021 14: 06
      For 7 years they have been talking from a private to a general, but if they had given an order, we would have piled on you and you would have fled.
    34. 0
      10 January 2021 14: 13
      If the majority of the human race were like the commentators of this forum, we would all turn into monkeys.
    35. +1
      10 January 2021 14: 15
      the time has come, you know what stories)
    36. 0
      10 January 2021 14: 36
      Not healthy fuss, bickering ... although, what am I talking about? What healthy can happen there, in general?
      The spiders in the bank behave "more friendly than the ones there ...
    37. 0
      10 January 2021 14: 44


      Then the Americans cried, how it all suddenly happened that the intelligence overlooked the polite before it was too late. And here the whole Headquarters planned, planned, but did not plan.
    38. 0
      10 January 2021 15: 05
      Doubtful. Most likely this plan was riveted last year. winked Straight old anecdote about Armenian radio - about the weather for tomorrow we will tell the day after tomorrow.
    39. +1
      10 January 2021 15: 05
      It feels like a popular saying - if my grandmother had what her grandfather had, she would be a grandfather.
      How you want to justify yourself in hindsight, they gnash their teeth, but everyone is clear about it. It's funny.
    40. +1
      10 January 2021 15: 13
      more fairy tales ...
    41. +2
      10 January 2021 15: 14
      The last phrase in the article raises doubts;
      "Many units of the Armed Forces surrendered to the Russians without a fight or went over to their side."
      Well, okay, they surrendered, no one is against it, and no one in the Republic of Kazakhstan hung the status of prisoners on them, but;
      that's why they changed the oath to the side and stayed in it? Were they subjected to threats, massive torture before and after surrender?
      Maybe the reason is that they were disappointed in the leaders for the European coup? Yes, and the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, as invaders, no one perceived? Then the reason for refusing to unleash a massacre is understandable. The servicemen served in neighboring units and often knew each other and family members. it would not have worked even if there was a written order, and all the Gauleiters of the Maidan knew this. Therefore, they actually intended to solve the issue by other formations, not the Ukrainian Armed Forces. But they stayed a little longer in Kiev due to their duty and the cause of the "revolution of hydration". Well, then everything is known, "Berkut" blocked the land access to the Crimea from the north, then "little green men" appeared from the east and southwest, in two days and everywhere at once, over which many mocked in Nenka, and that's all. .................
      Crimea is gone.
      The history of the past does not know the subjunctive mood.
    42. 0
      10 January 2021 15: 40
      What a headquarters if all Ukrainians know that the main operations are developed in bazaars.
    43. +1
      10 January 2021 16: 16
      Quote: Raven-95
      Hee-hee. Yes Ha-Ha.
      They all laughed.
      Dear commentators. Most of you are military.
      What do you think, at the main headquarters of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, did the officers pick in the nose in 2013-2014? And seeing where Ukraine is heading did not make plans to counter the entry of Russian troops? The headquarters is the headquarters to draw up plans, and then how the generals decide with the presidents, this is no longer the staff's business.

      and they LOST these plans in the confusion ... and now they apparently found that they were voicing ????
    44. +1
      10 January 2021 16: 25
      Quote: vladimirvn
      This is why I have always been against the cons. Instruct, instructed, but something reasonable to answer poorly.

      and what do you want? so that they explain to you for a long time and tediously and in the end hear from you "glory to glory" ??? people are lazy and this is a thankless job. Well, you are Russian, you have lived in Crimea all your life, grew up ... joined the army and there are 85% the same Russians ..... married a Russian and your children are Russian ... not by your passport, but by upbringing and call of the soul ..... and then the "occupant" comes and offers not to hide oneself and not to be afraid .... that no one else and never will teach you to love your Motherland and will not force you to be a Ukrainian ... and you after service you come home and there, too, you and your wife and children are teasing - dad (husband) why think - we are Russians ..... That's exactly the moment that the military took a decision for so long and speaks of what they thought.
    45. 0
      10 January 2021 16: 45
      since many units of the Armed Forces surrendered to the Russians without a fight or went over to their side.

      Voooot. here it is. Four hundred years ago they surrendered without a fight and will continue to be so. And it is unclear what kind of troops and when it will be.
    46. +1
      10 January 2021 20: 46
      ((((said Krivonos, adding that the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine developed three-stage plan liberation of Crimea.))) And with the developed in their address three-story mat did they read? am
    47. -2
      10 January 2021 22: 34
      There are still suckers who believe in miracles
    48. 0
      10 January 2021 23: 04
      Is that what they are talking about? no one in the winter of 2014 could have guessed about the impending operation in Crimea. Neither Ukrainians, nor Americans, and oddly enough, nor Russians.
    49. 0
      10 January 2021 23: 49
      They were afraid that these too would surrender.
    50. 0
      11 January 2021 00: 38
      Somehow it turns out not reasonably why the best warriors of the light of Ukraine sat quietly like mice under a broom when Crimea returned to Russia. It is strange that the Ukrainians did not report the poisoning of their fashionable moonshine Novichok. Well, or more likely, for example, about an attack with a psychotronic volley at the moment when the superrukrs took off their foil hats.
    51. 0
      11 January 2021 08: 31
      A more indicative story is when some of the military personnel who refused to stay in Crimea and had already boarded the train to Ukraine jumped out of the train when the rest called and told about the salaries of those who moved to the Russian Federation. People were returning on foot along the sleepers.
      1. +1
        11 January 2021 09: 51
        This is most likely a true story. Because they began to accept people into the ranks of the Russian Army after units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were sent to the mainland. EMNIP this happened already in the summer.
        As far as I know, the last units loyal to the Ukrainian government in Crimea stopped resisting just after the commanders received the order to open fire on everyone, including civilians. A few officers and conscripts from mainland Ukraine remained there. Local conscripts were sent home within the first couple of weeks.
    52. +2
      11 January 2021 08: 33
      If the order had come, I think that there would be no country called Ukraine. And they understood this very well, that “Pastor” and “Rabbit Senya”, these guys have a heightened sense of self-preservation.
    53. +1
      11 January 2021 09: 38
      Plans for Ukraine have always been good laughing
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    55. 0
      11 January 2021 09: 57
      Oh, these fairy tales, oh, these storytellers..."
      Soyuzmultfilm "Last year's snow was falling" laughing
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    59. 0
      11 January 2021 19: 54
      Let them not forget to pull the pots tightly together and dress the underpants ceremoniously worn to the lace, wear shalwar and when the Crimea is returned, be sure to howl “dead” without this, nothing will work. this should be the first points of the technical plan)))
    60. 0
      11 January 2021 23: 08
      Ukrainian paratroopers were ready to “give battle” to the Russian invaders of the peninsula, but the order never came, since many units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces surrendered to the Russians without a fight or went over to their side.


      Yes, we know the “heroism” of the military of independent Ukraine and it is expressed only in killing civilians (old people, women and children) and as soon as they are faced with a serious enemy, they either run away or declare that they were eager to fight but there was no order.
    61. 0
      12 January 2021 08: 04
      How secret is it now, if you’ve already spread the word about it! I remembered the joke - one Ukrainian is not a soldier, two Ukrainians are a partisan detachment, three Ukrainians are a partisan detachment and a traitor! laughing
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