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In the Greek press: Why the S-400 air defense systems remain "spectators" when Israel hits Iranian targets in Syria

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The foreign press continues to discuss the deployment of Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems in Syria. At the same time, foreign experts, raising this issue, are often not at all familiar with its essence and did not even understand what exactly these air defense systems in the Syrian Arab Republic protect from air attacks.


An article about the S-400 air defense system in Syria was published in the Greek edition of Pentapostagma. Columnist Panayotis Nastos titled his material in the Greek press as follows: "Why do S-400 air defense systems remain" spectators "when Israel hits Iranian targets in Syria?"

It would seem that one sentence would be enough to answer this question: "Because the S-400s were delivered to Syria to protect Russian military facilities in this country." But Nastos publishes extensive material in which he talks about Israeli airstrikes against Iranian military and pro-Iranian armed groups.

From the material:

The famous Russian S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems stationed in Syria have never responded to the aforementioned attacks. Why?

The author claims that this "avoids confrontation between the F-35 fighters of the Israeli Air Force and the Russian S-400 air defense systems." According to Panayotis Nastos, "in turn, this allows the defense industry of Russia and the United States to ensure the sale of arms and military equipment to third countries on the world market."

The message is that if Russia used the S-400 against the F-35, then either the fifth generation fighter would be destroyed, or the S-400 air defense system itself would be returned fire.

Greek author:

Some country would buy after that weaponwhich turned out to be amazed? Of course not.

Nastos claims that this is “the main answer to the question of why the S-400 is not used against the Israeli aviation».

At the same time, the Greek journalist does not write a word about the fact that the tasks of calculating the S-400 air defense system of the RF Armed Forces based on Khmeimim did not initially include the protection of Iranian military personnel and pro-Iranian forces in Syria from Israeli air strikes.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 8 January 2021 07: 56
    +11
    if Russia used the S-400 against the F-35, then either the fifth generation fighter would have been destroyed, or the S-400 air defense system itself would have been returned fire.

    Arriginally!
    Like, both sides are afraid to screw up ...
    Maybe everything is much simpler?
    Jews do not shoot at objects covered by the S-400, but ours do not touch them (e?)?
    And in general, if he is an S-400, then this does not mean that he kills all flies in a zone with a diameter of 400 km!
    All Israeli attacks come from Lebanese territory, from behind the mountains and at low altitudes, as they say "... meanly from around the corner." (from)
    I believe that if the Jews strike at our military, then no "dome" will save the airbase from the pogrom!
    1. marchcat
      marchcat 8 January 2021 08: 00
      +21
      The Greek has iron logic. Arrange a duel and see who is who ... What's in his head ??? Like Winnie's - sawdust ...
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 8 January 2021 08: 24
        +6
        In the Greek press: Why S-400 air defense systems remain "spectators" when Israel hits Iranian targets in Syria

        Strange what ... Why did a Greek author pay attention to Russian S-400, "non-defending Iranian forces", and does not mention the work or inaction of the air defense of the Iranian forces themselves?

        In this case, Iran is for us in Syria +/- ally, but still problem solver...

        And here, as it were - "Friendship is friendship, and tobacco is apart" yes

        And in this context, the statement of the well-known Ostap Bender looks quite logical - "Rescuing a drowning man is the work of the drowning man himself"
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 8 January 2021 08: 33
          +7
          Strange ... Why did the Greek author draw attention to the Russian S-400, "not protecting the Iranian forces," and does not at all mention the work or inaction of the air defense of the Iranian forces themselves?
          It is even stranger why the author does not mention his own Greek S-300 in terms of what Turkey gets up to in Greek waters ??? Or is it such a subtle hint of fat circumstances for your government and warriors?
          1. bessmertniy
            bessmertniy 8 January 2021 08: 45
            +2
            A Greek in words is a hero, but if he took it, he would buy an S-400 and defend Iranian bases from Israeli aviation! lol To write is not to carry bags.
            1. NDR-791
              NDR-791 8 January 2021 08: 48
              +1
              but I would take it - I would buy an S-400 and protect
              So the conversation about it seemed to have started after the Turks took it. I don't know how substantive. It looks like the Greeks in dumka - either the old S-300 (Sashiks don't run over for it) or the new S-400 (you can get shocked).
              1. hydrox
                hydrox 8 January 2021 09: 35
                +6
                These S-zoo among the Greeks, like Tuzik's fleas, would have been offered to the Persians ...
                And the main thing is that the Jews are attacking from the Golan Heights, Jordan and Lebanon, and the Greek just does not have enough brains, that we do not need world scandals, when we from the Syrian territory will clear the sky over the sovereign states - this is not permitted by anyone and no one welcome, but power in the United States will collapse - and the situation will change dramatically and Israel will sit like a mouse under a broom - quietly, quietly ... yes
                1. sidoroff
                  sidoroff 8 January 2021 10: 06
                  +8
                  Syria, which observes Lebanese sovereignty
                  and is afraid to offend the honor and dignity of some Nassrallah and Hezbollah?
                  is this anecdote?
                  and why is it problematic to try to bring down the Israeli aggressor over the Golan, especially since Syria considers them to be its ancestral domain. they want, but they cannot.
                2. Captain Pushkin
                  Captain Pushkin 13 January 2021 14: 56
                  0
                  Quote: hydrox
                  These S-zoo among the Greeks, like Tuzik's fleas, would have been offered to the Persians ...

                  Cyprus was supplied with the S-300P - an ancient version already at that time, moreover, at the time of delivery, it had already been discontinued.
                  Iran purchased S-300PMU-1, much more modern, but also obsolete at the time of delivery.
                  The Russian Federation offered Iran more advanced systems, but Iran stated that it needed the S-300.
              2. vm68dm
                vm68dm 8 January 2021 12: 01
                0
                Sashiki, allowed to buy spare parts for the C-300 PMU1 and prohibited upgrading to PMU 2. I'm just silent about the S-400
            2. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 8 January 2021 10: 48
              0
              Iranians tossed a Greek for an article?
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 8 January 2021 08: 47
            +6
            Quote: NDR-791
            It is even stranger why the author does not mention his own Greek S-300 in terms of what Turkey gets up to in Greek waters?

            Of course, in principle, the S-300 can be used for surface targets, but this is only from complete hopelessness, like hammering nails with a microscope. It is possible, but inconvenient and costly.
          3. Sergey Sfiedu
            Sergey Sfiedu 8 January 2021 17: 22
            0
            "does not mention his own Greek S-300 in terms of what Turkey gets up to in Greek waters ???" - they've been bustling around a couple of tiny islets for almost half a century, if not longer. Neither the Turks nor the Greeks, however, open fire, they do not want a big war (for now, at least).
        2. YOUR
          YOUR 8 January 2021 08: 42
          +13
          The explanation is simple. There is no war between Israel and Russia. A peace treaty has been concluded. They do not touch us in Syria, we naturally have them.
          1. Rusticolus
            Rusticolus 8 January 2021 09: 17
            +9
            Quote: YOUR
            The explanation is simple. There is no war between Israel and Russia. A peace treaty has been concluded. They do not touch us in Syria, we naturally have them.

            Everything is much simpler. Israel and Syria here are generally pulled over the ears on the globe. The main message here is clearly between the lines. They say such bad Russians and Americans conspired against Greece, some sold the S-400 to the Turks, and the latter did not want to give us the F-35. All around the byaks abandoned poor Greece, no one wants to help with anything.
            1. Dmitry Makarov
              Dmitry Makarov 8 January 2021 10: 54
              -13%
              Apparently the Greek does not realize a simple thing, namely, the Russian S-300 and S-400 perfectly see and identify the F-35 and F-22. And it is for this reason that they are not destroyed.
              Otherwise, given the Israelis' improvised use of their aircraft, they would have been shot down in batches long ago, by mistake.
              1. Modun
                Modun 9 January 2021 06: 43
                0
                aha, they see perfectly well. Either the Bayraktars made fun of them in Nagorno-Karabakh
                1. Elisarius
                  Elisarius 9 January 2021 09: 13
                  +2
                  They banished not over c300, but over the Armenian "heroes". Now, if you sell something - buy, negotiate, roll back, throw - then of course. And when the war is, excuse me, not to the Armenians. And c300 has nothing to do with it
                  1. Slavik Tabakin
                    Slavik Tabakin 9 January 2021 16: 07
                    -1
                    Well, yes .... well, yes ... In Syria, the Arabs do not know how to handle the s-300, in Karabakh, the Armenians could not, as well as the Iranians with their ,, Bavar ,, analogue of the s-300, and the Russians with American tomahawks (we saw this air force base with destroyed planes under concrete floors in Syria). Epilogue: -A pile of air defense scrap metal that was delivered to Syria is not worth a damn. One accidentally shot down f-16 (air defense s-200) aircraft and then over the territory of Israel, and then only because almost cadets flew, who relaxed, forgetting about the hayal avir rules. It is interesting that Israel in response ironed all of Syria for 3 hours. planes and all this over Syria itself and not a single plane was even hit. These are the facts.
                2. Jager
                  Jager 9 January 2021 15: 52
                  0
                  S-400 in Karabakh? Who are they supposed to protect there? Apricots with peaches ??
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 8 January 2021 09: 38
            +3
            Quote: YOUR
            There is no war between Israel and Russia. A peace treaty has been concluded. They do not touch us in Syria, we naturally have them.

            All true.
          3. demo
            demo 8 January 2021 10: 03
            +6
            And IL 20?
            Forgotten already?
            You can't have such a short memory.
            1. Sergey Sfiedu
              Sergey Sfiedu 8 January 2021 17: 25
              +2
              The Il-20 was shot down by no Israelis. And, by and large, this is our jamb that we could not create a system of state recognition unified with the Syrians.
              1. demo
                demo 8 January 2021 17: 34
                +2
                Yes Yes....
                I know who shot it down.
                But I also know HOW it all happened.
                Our Mi 24 in Armenia - the same is our jamb (as you please)?
                1. Sergey Sfiedu
                  Sergey Sfiedu 8 January 2021 17: 52
                  +6
                  Well, if you know, what are the questions. When Il was shot down, the Jewish pilots were already drinking coffee at their base. And the Syrian anti-aircraft gunners fired into the white light for half an hour after the raid, like a pretty penny. The S-200 has a fucking range, missiles were falling into Cyprus, it's a miracle that they shot down only one of our aircraft. And this had to be foreseen in advance.
                  In general, it is a natural result when some people try to sit on two chairs at once.
          4. Revolver
            Revolver 8 January 2021 10: 42
            +6
            Quote: YOUR
            There is no war between Israel and Russia. A peace treaty has been concluded.
            Actually? It seems like they never fought, at least officially, so where and why a peace treaty? Another thing is that there are normal diplomatic, trade, and cultural relations.
            Quote: YOUR
            They do not touch us in Syria, we naturally have them.
            Absolutely.
        3. venik
          venik 8 January 2021 13: 39
          +3
          Quote: Insurgent
          In this case, Iran is +/- an ally for us in Syria, but still solving problems in its own interests ...
          And here, as it were - "Friendship is friendship, and tobacco is apart" yes

          =========
          good You couldn't say better! Iran has its own "views" on Syria and its future. And their ambitions, and oh-oh-very big ambitions! And therefore - excessive strengthening of Iranian influence in Syria, Russia "needs it like last year's snow" .... drinks
        4. Sergey Sfiedu
          Sergey Sfiedu 8 January 2021 17: 19
          +4
          "and does not mention the work or inaction of the air defense of the Iranian forces themselves?" - As far as I know, the Israelis are diligently destroying all Iranian air defenses in Syria.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 8 January 2021 09: 13
      -6
      Quote: Victor_B
      I believe that if the Jews strike at our military, then no "dome" will save the airbase from the pogrom!

      And I hope so. yes
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 8 January 2021 09: 40
        +6
        The Jews have not yet been noticed in any nonsense against us, and they cannot be called fools.
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 8 January 2021 11: 09
          -16%
          Quote: hydrox
          Jews have not yet been noticed in any nonsense against us

          Il-20 fell by itself or deliberately set itself up under the Syrian air defense system?
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 8 January 2021 17: 01
            +1
            It's bad, you depress me.
            This issue has already been so sucked and forgotten that if it were solved in the context of your level, then Israel could already be left without half of its aviation and without half of the population
    3. Python 57
      Python 57 8 January 2021 14: 38
      -7
      If they strike at the Russian military, they will strike in such a way that there will be no one to answer the Serpent!
    4. Wolf
      Wolf 8 January 2021 16: 23
      0
      Why should they strike at the Russian military? They are already shooting at Syria when they wanted and who they wanted, who is stopping them? And what does it mean insidiously and around the corner from Libansk territory, they can shoot from space, it doesn't matter. It is important where they flew from! ;)
    5. nod739
      nod739 8 January 2021 17: 51
      -4
      Another question arises, why, in response, the Syrians do not rush around the airfield, is there really such a powerful missile defense system that can repel a massive volley?
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 9 January 2021 09: 46
        +1
        Another question arises, why, in response, the Syrians do not rush around the airfield, is there really such a powerful missile defense system that can repel a massive volley?
        Because that's all the Jews need. To this they are diligently provoking Syria. Because immediately after such an attack, the Jews will rush to Damascus and then with tanks and infantry. And what they will have time to crush for themselves (and will have time to crush a lot), damn it when they give it up. The example of illegal settlements in the occupied territories speaks directly to this.
        But Syria does not need a ground invasion by Israel from the word at all. Not in general, not at the current difficult historical moment in particular.
        If they could, they would have zhahnul long ago.
        1. atalef
          atalef 9 January 2021 10: 08
          +1
          Quote: abrakadabre
          To this they diligently provoke Syria

          belay
          500 strikes in 10 years, we do not provoke. we just bomb what we see fit
          Quote: abrakadabre
          Because immediately after such an attack, the Jews will rush to Damascus and then with tanks and infantry.

          Why the hell do we need Syria and even more tanks and infantry?
          Assad just knows what is after his attack on Israeli territory. his residence will be destroyed first
          Quote: abrakadabre
          And what they will have time to crush for themselves (and will have time to crush a lot), damn it when they give it up.

          It would have been necessary, it would have been crushed long ago, we do not need this. It will not give anything but a smut.
          Quote: abrakadabre
          ... The example of illegal settlements in the occupied territories speaks directly to this.

          says crookedly. If you don’t know anything, you’d better be silent. occupied by whom?
          Quote: abrakadabre
          If they could, they would have zhahnul long ago.

          that's for sure laughing
          1. Sanichsan
            Sanichsan 9 January 2021 19: 05
            -2
            Quote: atalef
            500 strikes in 10 years, we do not provoke. we just bomb what we see fit

            do not flatter yourself, what is allowed wink
            Quote: atalef
            Assad just knows what is after his attack on Israeli territory. his residence will be destroyed first

            oh is it? more than once they hit both the territory and the Israeli troops in the same Golan, and something with the residence of Assad is all right request
            moderate your pathos and do not make others laugh hi
            1. atalef
              atalef 10 January 2021 11: 35
              0
              Quote: SanichSan
              oh is it? have repeatedly beaten both the territory and the Israeli troops on the same Golan, and something is okay with Assad's residence
              moderate your pathos and do not make others laugh

              proofs in the studio.
              1. Sanichsan
                Sanichsan 10 January 2021 14: 56
                -3
                in 2017, two hailstones, in one volley, broke through the "iron dome" and struck an Israeli command post on the Golan. I searched the internet for an article about this, but everything was cleaned up bully only "in response to Syrian strikes by Israeli aircraft ...". they answered something, but apparently the religion does not allow to report that the IDF was fired upon. for ordinary people there should be solid victories! wassat
                and so any sane person understands that Israel, in spite of a strong army, is a very dependent country in the region. and dependent on both the United States and Russia. request
                1. atalef
                  atalef 10 January 2021 19: 55
                  +1
                  Quote: SanichSan
                  in 2017, two hailstones, in one volley, broke through the "iron dome" and struck an Israeli command post on the Golan. I searched the internet for an article about this, but everything was cleaned up

                  by whom are 7 Syrians? Maybe it wasn't?
                  Quote: SanichSan
                  and any sane person understands that Israel, in spite of a strong army, is a very dependent country in the region. and dependent on both the United States and Russia

                  what does it have to do with it?
                  As I understand it, we are bombing from our dependence in Syria? I wonder which of the above two countries makes us?
                  1. Sanichsan
                    Sanichsan 10 January 2021 21: 36
                    -3
                    Quote: atalef
                    by whom are 7 Syrians? Maybe it wasn't?

                    yes, I do not insist. believe in invincibility wassat everyone knows how it ends. it's your problem wink
                    Quote: atalef
                    As I understand it, we are bombing from our dependence in Syria? I wonder which of the above two countries makes us?

                    from your addiction you bomb those whom you are allowed to. Hasbull was allowed, bomb her. Assad was not allowed, do not bomb him. but you want to whip, right? wink like the war with Syria is still. officially. but nizya request
        2. nod739
          nod739 9 January 2021 22: 31
          0
          Then it is not clear what the difference is for the Jews - just bombing or letting in tanks with infantry? ! Or is it written in international law that you can just bomb, but tanks are already an act of aggression? And then what is the difference if you jump exactly at the military airfield from which these airplanes took off?
    6. kkostya-sergeev-69sergeev
      kkostya-sergeev-69sergeev 13 January 2021 13: 31
      -1
      All their life they have been acting from behind a corner, they only boast that they are a strong army.
  2. Sofa expert
    Sofa expert 8 January 2021 08: 05
    0
    The Greeks are enraged by the lack of f35, and the Turks are c400
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 8 January 2021 08: 07
      +4
      Quote: Divan expert
      The Greeks are enraged by the lack of f35, and the Turks are c400

      They actually have their own old S-300.
      And somehow I have not heard that they complained about him.
      1. kkostya-sergeev-69sergeev
        kkostya-sergeev-69sergeev 13 January 2021 13: 34
        0
        The S-400 sees the F-35 even on takeoff where the Power flew.
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 8 January 2021 08: 37
      0
      Quote: Sofa Expert
      The Greeks are enraged by the lack of f35

      - "I’ll have an F-35 and become the coolest dude in the village!", so what?
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 8 January 2021 09: 43
        0
        The Greeks have a full body of hormones (they have not fought for a long time!), And there are very few barns to dump hormones - well, not in the thorn bushes to tumble?
      2. Sanichsan
        Sanichsan 9 January 2021 19: 08
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        "I'll have an F-35, and I'll become the coolest dude in the village!" , so what?

        you won't believe but yes wassat see what the Poles write about what they promised the F-35 wassat like children by God ...
  3. sustav75
    sustav75 8 January 2021 08: 12
    +7
    The key word "Iranian"! Iranians for us in Syria are more competitors than allies. They all cannot deviate from their Persian "significance". We are also "unfaithful" for them and our movements in Syria strain them very much. So that everything is fine. Jews there can not get up to everything. It's easier to negotiate with Israel than with fanatics Persians ...
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 8 January 2021 08: 24
      +1
      Joint 75 - Persians have lived in this region for many thousands of years! They are fighting for brothers in faith, they do not conclude agreements behind the back of Russia, as the Israelis and I do, the Persians are right in their own way, they should live there, and we are only guests. And we are trying to impose our own charter in a strange monastery, figuratively speaking!
      1. sustav75
        sustav75 8 January 2021 08: 34
        -9
        In Kiev, too, the Russian princes prvili for centuries! Nowadays fascists and Americans rule there! AND? Putin chose this position - to negotiate behind everyone's backs! In Syria, not only Iranian brothers in faith, there are many others, including Christians. Putin pro-al a lot of things! Syria is his last trench ...
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 8 January 2021 08: 51
          +12
          Quote: sustav75
          In Syria, not only Iranian brothers in faith, there are many others, including Christians.

          Finally, Syria was a province of Orthodox Byzantium, until the Arab-Muslim army showed up there in the summer of 634 AD.
          1. sustav75
            sustav75 8 January 2021 09: 06
            +9
            Once our ancestors thought that svarog and carried our everything! Today everything is confused! And the former KGB officer, who was naturally in the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, is now broadcasting to us on holiday from the church, about the soul and other secret places of our body!
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 8 January 2021 09: 48
            +3
            Quote: Nagan
            until the Arab-Muslim army showed up there in the summer of 634 A.D.

            And then the Turks in 1517 came to Syria, and she entered the Ottoman Empire.
          3. Xenofont
            Xenofont 8 January 2021 10: 49
            0
            In fact, before the Islamic conquest, Syria was a constant battlefield between the Persians and the Roman Empire, including the Eastern one. And the Persians were fire worshipers. There were also Christian Arabs, but there were many other religious beliefs.
        2. Thrifty
          Thrifty 8 January 2021 08: 53
          -5
          Joint 75 - for the sake of justice, drunkard Yeltsin allowed the primordially Russian lands to become part of the quasi-state of Vukri, with the aim of the collapse of Russia in the future! They worked out their silversmiths! But, "our" authorities had to clearly decide even when they were sending troops into Syria that this is the second Afghanistan, and we need to put pressure on the militants, the same ISIS, as a result, and as a result, massive agreements with everyone in a row! The Persians, on the other hand, do not want to live in this region, and they do not want Iran, how to "present" Syria with the same Yankees with the Israelis, or a new supergill 2, which the Yankees will inevitably create with the tacit consent of the Turks, Israelis, Saudis - that is, those countries that they want in dominate the region, and they do not need a competitor in the face of a strong Iran! In this case, we had to be guided by the principle "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", and help openly to Iran, and not feed the Turkish Sultan with a free nuclear power plant, and unnecessary sale of C400 to the Turks! The Turks are not our friends, the Sultan has already proved this by shooting down our plane! Therefore, Russia was supposed to openly help Syria and Iran, but remember the Vedmedev with the sanctions against the Persians, the breakdown of the contract for the supply of C300 to him! So, we screwed up ourselves, and blaming the Iranians for our own jambs is the last thing!
          1. Modun
            Modun 9 January 2021 07: 01
            +1
            but how will you pass the Bosphorus, or will transport aviation decide everything?
            1. Sanichsan
              Sanichsan 9 January 2021 19: 13
              -2
              Quote: Modun
              and how will you pass the Bosphorus

              Well, there is no way without Constantinople! wink
              that is, if you swear, then yes. there will be problems. and if you fight the Turks, it is clear how to pass the Bosphorus - take it! soldier
      2. andreykolesov123
        andreykolesov123 8 January 2021 08: 35
        +5
        Quote: Thrifty
        Persians have lived in this region for many thousands of years!

        Persians never lived in Syria.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 8 January 2021 08: 53
          +11
          Quote: andreykolesov123
          Persians never lived in Syria.
          Once they ruled Syria, but then Alexander Filippovich of Macedon came and destroyed the Persian Empire.
          1. andreykolesov123
            andreykolesov123 8 January 2021 10: 18
            +5
            Quote: Nagan
            Quote: andreykolesov123
            Persians never lived in Syria.
            Once they ruled Syria, but then Alexander Filippovich of Macedon came and destroyed the Persian Empire.

            ruled, but did not live. The original pre-Arab population of Syria is Greeks and Arameans.
        2. Thrifty
          Thrifty 8 January 2021 08: 56
          -7
          Andrey Kolesov 123 - are you sure about that? When did Syria appear within its modern borders, and how much area did the Persian Empire occupy? Persians have always lived in Syria! !!
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 8 January 2021 09: 30
            +4
            Quote: Thrifty
            Andrey Kolesov 123 - are you sure about that? When did Syria appear within its modern borders, and how much area did the Persian Empire occupy? Persians have always lived in Syria! !!

            Modern Syria appeared in 1943 (de facto in 1946-47), the Persians in Syria were at the beginning of our era
            1. Thrifty
              Thrifty 8 January 2021 09: 52
              +1
              Krasnodar hi -Happy New Year! And Merry Christmas! hi That's what I'm talking about to a man! !! Persians lived there you can always download! !!
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 8 January 2021 09: 54
                +4
                Happy holidays and good luck in all your endeavors in 2021! hi
                The Persians were always present there, but, as now, in principle, they were knocked out from time to time from different parts of the Middle East. It was done by Greeks, Arabs, Turks, now Jews. The Russian-Persian wars, by the way, were also
          2. andreykolesov123
            andreykolesov123 8 January 2021 10: 24
            +6
            Quote: Thrifty
            Andrey Kolesov 123 - are you sure about that? When did Syria appear within its modern borders, and how much area did the Persian Empire occupy? Persians have always lived in Syria! !!

            the Persian empire occupied a huge area, but with all this, the Persians practically did not establish settlements in the conquered countries. Persian remained the state language of the empire and spoken in the province of Parthia, and the main language of communication in the rest of the provinces of the Persian empire was Aramaic.
        3. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 8 January 2021 09: 18
          -4
          Quote: andreykolesov123
          Persians never lived in Syria.

          The history of the ancient world is held at school:
          1. hydrox
            hydrox 8 January 2021 09: 52
            -2
            So this is the most difficult question of modern education!
            Someone studies history - 3%, someone passes - 8%, someone scrolls -80%, and someone rolls up the tubes for insertion into the nose, these were not considered - it was painfully expensive (this is not to tease others with security !) laughing ...
            1. andreykolesov123
              andreykolesov123 8 January 2021 10: 58
              +8
              Quote: hydrox
              So this is the most difficult question of modern education!
              Someone studies history - 3%, someone passes - 8%, someone scrolls -80%, and someone rolls up the tubes for insertion into the nose, these were not considered - it was painfully expensive (this is not to tease others with security !) laughing ...

              You will forgive me, but you are simply an ignoramus, and an ignorant who is actively proud of his stupidity and ignorance, instead of opening a book and filling in the gaps in your education.
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 8 January 2021 10: 33
            +1
            Quote: ROSS 42
            The history of the ancient world is held at school:

            A map from a Soviet textbook on the history of the ancient world?
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 8 January 2021 11: 19
              -6
              Quote: Nagan
              A map from a Soviet textbook on the history of the ancient world?

              I copied it myself (from space) ... wassat From the Internet, more or less suitable in contrasts ... Knowledge from the Soviet education system ... belay
          3. andreykolesov123
            andreykolesov123 8 January 2021 10: 41
            +10
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Quote: andreykolesov123
            Persians never lived in Syria.

            The history of the ancient world is held at school:

            This is just a difficult problem in your education, because you live in the naive belief that since the empire was Persian, then the entire population in it spoke Persian. The main language of communication in the Persian Empire was Aramaic, lingua franca
            http://inot.rggu.ru/binary/78809_21.1236189872.28877.pdf
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 8 January 2021 18: 12
              -8
              Quote: andreykolesov123
              This is just a difficult problem in your education, because you live in the naive belief that since the empire was Persian, then the entire population in it spoke Persian.

              I understand that you were not taught Russian (neither to read, nor to write), but why the hell are you with your elephantine stubbornness beginning to tell me about the language of the nation, when the question was:
              LIVED OR DID THE PERSONS LIVE IN SYRIA?
              Syria was (territorially) part of the Persian kingdom! ALL! The investigation is over, forget it!
              How hard it is to deal with Russian officials and idle talkers ...
              1. andreykolesov123
                andreykolesov123 8 January 2021 18: 40
                +5
                Quote: ROSS 42
                when the question was:

                The question was:
                Quote: Thrifty
                Persians lived in this region for many millennia


                The Persians DIDN'T LIVE in this region. There is not a single Persian settlement in Syria. There was only a Persian administration. And you are the most ordinary ignoramus, who does not know either history or Russian.
          4. Sergey Sfiedu
            Sergey Sfiedu 8 January 2021 17: 33
            +3
            "The history of the ancient world is held at school:" - So, in your opinion, did the Persians live in Egypt, Asia Minor, and Palestine? They ruled there, and they were very disliked there. I suspect that even now the bulk of the Syrians simply tolerate them, choosing the lesser of two evils.
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 8 January 2021 18: 17
              -8
              There the animals beat the elephant and I kicked it twice ... It's about you ...
              Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
              So, in your opinion, did the Persians live in Egypt, Asia Minor and Palestine?

              Did you mark with a stick or just bypassed the question of humiliation? Don't deprive yourself of joy ... yes
              1. Sergey Sfiedu
                Sergey Sfiedu 8 January 2021 19: 20
                +3
                I do not understand. You confused me with someone.
            2. Revolver
              Revolver 9 January 2021 10: 38
              +2
              Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
              in Egypt, and in Asia Minor, and in Palestine did the Persians live?
              In Palestine - they certainly did not live because it was not there. There was Judea. And the Persians were there - a satrap with a family and maybe several of his courtiers, again with families. Although it happened that the satraps were appointed from the locals. The ancient Persians had a very broad outlook on national and religious issues - whether you are anyone, pray to anyone, the main thing is to collect taxes, go to the capital, and sleep well. It was now they were violently obsessed with Islam, but then there was no trace of Islam, and the Persians were either Zoroastrians or someone else in the same spirit, but they respected local beliefs in peripheral satrapies. In general, there was a very well-organized and progressive empire at that time, the laws were not bad, and most importantly, their observance was monitored and punished for violation. As one boasting document said, a virgin with a purse of gold could go through the empire from edge to edge, and not lose either purse or virginity. And then Alexander Filippovich came and destroyed everything.
        4. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 9 January 2021 09: 52
          0
          Persians never lived in Syria.
          In fairly significant quantities, they still lived. Read about the Achaemenid Empire. And then ... thanks to the developed regional trade and constant migrations from small, the size of a single family, to large, tribal scale, There is such a vinaigrette ...
          1. andreykolesov123
            andreykolesov123 9 January 2021 13: 29
            +1
            Quote: abrakadabre
            In fairly significant quantities, they still lived. Read about the Achaemenid Empire.

            I know the history of the ancient east quite well. Including the features of the Persian state of the Akhmenids or the features of the Parthian kingdom of the Sassanids too. Therefore, I ask only one question: "Name at least one Akhmenid settlement in Syria?" Not a satrap's house, not an inn where some bazaargan (merchant) lived, not a Persian garrison camp, but a settlement or city with a significant Persian population. There are no such. In the northernmost Aramaic lands, only the remains of the camp garrison are found, such as in Neirab, near Aleppo (Aleppo).
      3. Victor_B
        Victor_B 8 January 2021 08: 37
        +1
        Is it okay that we built our "monastery" there and surrounded it with a high fence?
        1. Sergey Sfiedu
          Sergey Sfiedu 8 January 2021 17: 36
          +5
          We do not interfere in internal affairs there, and the Persians are crawling into all the cracks and are actively promoting Shiism. In a Sunntic (and partly Christian-Druze) country, the Alawites are behind them, while others do not like it at all.
      4. Deniska999
        Deniska999 8 January 2021 09: 07
        0
        This is a real policy, everything is against everyone here.
      5. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 8 January 2021 10: 58
        +8
        "They are fighting for brothers in faith" ////
        -----
        They fight with brothers in faith, not for them.
        Their worst enemy is Saudi Arabia, where Mecca and Medina are located.
      6. kkostya-sergeev-69sergeev
        kkostya-sergeev-69sergeev 13 January 2021 13: 40
        0
        Russia does not impose its policy, but relieves Syria of terrorists.
  4. VyacheSeymour
    VyacheSeymour 8 January 2021 08: 14
    -6
    It would seem that one sentence would be enough to answer this question: "Because the S-400s were delivered to Syria to protect Russian military facilities in this country."

    And how many proposals will be needed in this case to answer the question: - Why is this base located?
    in Syria, covered by the S-400?
    1. Momotomba
      Momotomba 8 January 2021 08: 28
      +3
      Quote: VyacheSeymour
      Why is this base located?
      in Syria, covered by the S-400?

      Do you propose to transfer this base to another country?
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 8 January 2021 08: 35
        +1
        wassat wassat wassat Type directly to Israel ??? laughing laughing laughing
        1. Victor_B
          Victor_B 8 January 2021 08: 38
          +3
          Israel is deeply hurt by their own bases.
          Where not spit ...
          1. NDR-791
            NDR-791 8 January 2021 08: 44
            0
            So maybe VyacheSeymou offers to spit first ??? And then the place to choose, where is cleaner. Although, to be honest, this question hesitated: "Why is this base located
            in Syria, covered by the S-400? "
            Everything has already been chewed and explained a hundred times. And from the point of view of propaganda and from an economic point of view. There are simply no other pitfalls there.
        2. Momotomba
          Momotomba 8 January 2021 09: 23
          -1
          Quote: NDR-791
          Type directly to Israel ???

          Well, why not? laughing will be based on their own airfields ... laughing laughing
          1. andreykolesov123
            andreykolesov123 8 January 2021 12: 44
            +1
            Quote: Momotomba
            Quote: NDR-791
            Type directly to Israel ???

            Well, why not? laughing will be based on their own airfields ... laughing laughing


            yeah, in museums:


      2. sustav75
        sustav75 8 January 2021 08: 42
        -6
        We need at least three bases in Ukraine! In Kharkov, Kiev and Lviv! Maybe when it will be, not with the current concern ...
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 8 January 2021 08: 56
      +4
      Quote: VyacheSeymour
      Why is this base located?
      in Syria, covered by the S-400?

      For protection and promotion Russian interests in the region. Russian, not Iranian or even Syrian.
    3. Xenofont
      Xenofont 8 January 2021 11: 05
      +3
      Why do major powers in other countries need bases at all? The answer is obvious.
    4. kkostya-sergeev-69sergeev
      kkostya-sergeev-69sergeev 13 January 2021 13: 44
      0
      To see far, far away in the Mediterranean Sea. Soon we will control the Red Sea.
  5. Thrifty
    Thrifty 8 January 2021 08: 19
    +2
    The Greek is poorly versed in politics, otherwise he would have understood that there is a typical agreement! We do not prevent the Israelis from bombing the positions and locations of the Persian military and equipment in Syria, as well as the positions and military movements of Hezbollah, and we ourselves do not shoot down their military aircraft, and the main thing is that they do not enter the zone of destruction of our air defense systems!
  6. Konnick
    Konnick 8 January 2021 08: 28
    +6
    Simple savings. The air defense systems of the S-400 complex are too expensive to protect some Hezbollah sheds. And the Iranians have to defend themselves. Moreover, Israel always warns our command in Syria about raids to prevent mutual conflicts.
  7. Anar
    Anar 8 January 2021 08: 51
    -8
    The Greeks are very envious and slippery ... We are ready to mix everyone with each other, it was good for ourselves.
    1. Pavlos Melas
      Pavlos Melas 8 January 2021 10: 45
      +2
      The Greeks are very envious and slippery ... We are ready to mix everyone with each other, it was good for ourselves.
      Have you met with them often and know many personally, askerenok?
    2. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 8 January 2021 17: 39
      +4
      You shouldn't be so. They are very unlucky to have Turkey in their neighbors,
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 8 January 2021 19: 43
        +3
        Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
        They are very unlucky to have Turkey in their neighbors

        Yes, almost all of Turkey's neighbors are not lucky to have it in their neighbors. Well, maybe, apart from Azerbaijan, and even then, if it goes on like this, they will in fact become a province of Turkey.
        And to have Turkey as a metropolis finally atas, ask at least the Greeks, even the Bulgarians, they have not forgotten. And the Kurds are still doing it in full.
  8. steelmaker
    steelmaker 8 January 2021 08: 54
    -11%
    "that the tasks of the calculations of the S-400 air defense system of the RF Armed Forces based on Khmeimim did not initially include the protection of Iranian military personnel and pro-Iranian forces in Syria from Israeli air strikes."
    And to avenge IL and 20 lives of our soldiers - the gut is thin! The S-400 is not intended for this !? Today's youth is doing everything right, refusing to serve in such an army. In war and not avenge the death of their comrades can only cowards or scoundrels!
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 8 January 2021 09: 04
      +7
      Quote: steel maker
      And to avenge IL and 20 lives of our soldiers - the guts are thin! The S-400 is not intended for this !?

      In order to take out the S-200 air defense system, which launched a missile at the IL-20, ground-to-ground or air-to-ground missiles are needed, and the S-400 missiles are not intended for this.
      1. steelmaker
        steelmaker 8 January 2021 09: 15
        -10%
        Like smart? Education should be obtained, not bought! Then you won't write any garbage. Or if the Jews are not to blame, then the Russian generals must be brought to justice, who set up our IL. And so it turns out there are no guilty ones! Where are our generals and Putin to blame? The Turks shot down the plane, killed the pilot, killed the ambassador, where were the perpetrators punished? Putin does not give up his own, women still give birth.
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 8 January 2021 10: 10
          +7
          Quote: steel maker
          Education should be obtained, not bought!

          Don't judge people, especially strangers, by yourself. I have two diplomas, Soviet and American, both received honestly. Moreover, both are engineering, not some liberal arts or marketing. Yes, and also certified by Microsoft.
          Quote: steel maker
          Like smart?
          Is that you about yourself?
          Quote: steel maker
          Then you won't write any garbage.
          Poke strangers should not be, this shows a lack of education. You and I did not drink at brotherhood, and judging by your manners, this will not happen even virtually.
          1. steelmaker
            steelmaker 8 January 2021 10: 22
            -7
            If educated, you need to answer specifically: "Are the Jews to blame for the murder of 20 of our specialists?" I am writing a specific fact. The S-200 was not fired at the IL. And include a fool in another place, you are my educated! And you need to educate your children and relatives. And to prove your rightness - with facts, and not moralizing "to read"!
            1. ender
              ender 8 January 2021 10: 31
              +6
              I am writing a specific fact. The S-200 was not fired at the IL.


              oh how. Well, on October 4, 2001, the Ukrainian S-200s also did not fire at the TU-154. Ukraine is not to blame?
              1. steelmaker
                steelmaker 8 January 2021 10: 52
                -11%
                Another educated! And when exercises are held, should the airspace be closed? Has Ukraine closed it? And the second thing. An article about something else. Also remember what happened during the "king of the peas".
                1. ender
                  ender 8 January 2021 11: 11
                  +6
                  always amused that it is in Russia that the words "educated" and "smart" carry a negative connotation. It was amusing, but not surprising ..

                  now back to our rams.
                  “I am writing a specific fact.” And so. You were given an equally specific fact. Ukrainian S-200s fired at the wrong Tu. Ukraine is not to blame? Are there any answer options besides the sacred "this is another"?

                  And the second thing. firing was carried out at the 31st research center of the Russian Black Sea Fleet. And the plane was in the area of ​​responsibility of the 7th North Caucasus Center for Automated Air Traffic Control. also Russian. coincidence, no? however, the question is really different
  9. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 8 January 2021 09: 07
    0
    At the same time, the Greek journalist does not write a word about the fact that the tasks of calculating the S-400 air defense system of the RF Armed Forces based on Khmeimim did not initially include the protection of Iranian military personnel and pro-Iranian forces in Syria from Israeli air strikes.
    And also the protection of Syrian military personnel from US airstrikes, as was the case with the attack of Shirat "Tomahawks" in 2017 repeat
  10. Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 8 January 2021 09: 08
    -1
    just now thinking ... Israel is flying over Lebanon like at home ... they have some kind of agreement ...? somebody knows ? repeat
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  12. Vitaly gusin
    Vitaly gusin 8 January 2021 09: 17
    +2
    An article about the S-400 air defense system in Syria was published in the Greek edition of Pentapostagma. Columnist Panagiotis Nastos titled his story in the Greek press as follows: "Why do the S-400 air defense systems remain" spectators "when Israel hits Iranian targets in Syria?"
    This question is simply provocative and there is no point in discussing it.
    But, if you set it this way
    Why Syrian ZRKS-300 remain "spectators" when Israel hits Syrian and Iranian targets in Syria? " then you can analyze it.
    1. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 9 January 2021 19: 26
      -2
      Quote: Vitaly Gusin
      Why do Syrian air defense missile systems-300 remain “spectators” when Israel hits Syrian and Iranian targets in Syria? " then you can analyze it.

      what to analyze? that there is exactly the same story as with the C400? Russia decides who Assad can and cannot shoot at. request
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 9 January 2021 20: 22
        0
        Quote: SanichSan
        what to analyze? that there is exactly the same story as with the C400? Russia decides who Assad can and cannot shoot at.

        At a superficial glance, YES.
        But when analysis questions float up.
        While everything is clear with the S-400, a number of questions arise about the S-300.
        In 2018, the S-300 complex was supplied to strengthen the air defense of Syria.
        According to MO Shoigu, the complex has high noise immunity and rate of fire.
        And that henceforth in the areas adjacent to Syria over the Mediterranean Sea will be carried out electronic suppression of satellite navigation, airborne radar and communication systems of military aircraft attacking targets in Syrian territory. The minister expressed his conviction that these measures would cool the "hotheads" and keep them from rash actions.
        Military observer Viktor Baranets on radio Sputnik, the situation in the region will change after the delivery of S-300 to Damascus. “The appearance of the S-300 significantly changes the psychology of the war that is taking place there. management understands that jokes are bad here "
        But something went wrong as expected by the military leadership and specialists. But in fact, the result is the opposite.
        Why are promises and hopes not fulfilled during this time, despite the ongoing attacks of unidentified flying objects?
        If the S-300 remained under the control of the Aerospace Forces and performs their tasks, then what was the need for global advertising if they themselves did not believe in it, and if they did, then it says even worse.
        That's why rumors are crawling that they are afraid, that they do not want, that they cannot, they are not allowed.
        This is why we need to analyze the actions before, not after.
        AND YOU WRITE THAT THERE IS NOTHING TO ANALYZE.
        1. Sanichsan
          Sanichsan 9 January 2021 20: 43
          -2
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          In 2018, the S-300 complex was supplied to strengthen the air defense of Syria.

          this is the official version. in fact, these С300 became an addition to the Russian С400 system for Syria's money. request
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          According to MO Shoigu, the complex has high noise immunity and rate of fire.

          understandably. no questions. soldier
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          And that henceforth in the areas adjacent to Syria over the Mediterranean Sea will be carried out electronic suppression of satellite navigation, airborne radar and communication systems of military aircraft attacking targets in Syrian territory. The minister expressed his conviction that these measures would cool the "hotheads" and keep them from rash actions.
          Military observer Viktor Baranets on radio Sputnik, the situation in the region will change after the delivery of S-300 to Damascus. “The appearance of the S-300 significantly changes the psychology of the war that is taking place there. management understands that jokes are bad here "

          but what is this? belay did Viktor Baranets promise? and? what's next? to discuss the erotic fantasies of Viktor Barantz? request
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          But something went wrong as expected by the military leadership and specialists. But in fact, the result is the opposite.
          Is this Viktor Baranets "military leadership and specialist"? belay who went wrong? from the journalist who wrote the hell out of what? well this is not a tragedy wink
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          Why are promises and hopes not fulfilled during this time, despite the ongoing attacks of unidentified flying objects?
          The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation does not fulfill the promises of some correspondent there? belay I am begging you smile
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          If the S-300 remained under the control of the Aerospace Forces and performs their tasks, then what was the need for global advertising if they themselves did not believe in it, and if they did, then it says even worse.
          Well, why don't they believe? know and believe. and "partners" know and believe wink out, not one Turkish plane dared to fly to the aid of pocket barmaley, but the UAVs and the Syrian shells coped with it.
          Quote: Vitaly Gusin
          That's why rumors are crawling that they are afraid, that they do not want, that they cannot, they are not allowed.

          rumors creep on the fact that journalists spread them, such as this Greek or Baranets. by the way they get paid for it wink so don't do anything about it. request
          1. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 9 January 2021 21: 28
            0
            Quote: SanichSan
            The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation does not fulfill the promises of some correspondent there? I beg of you

            "The S-300 is capable of intercepting air attack weapons at a distance of more than 250 km and simultaneously hitting several air targets", - noted Shoigu. The complex has high noise immunity and rate of fire, clarified the minister.

            The supplies to the Syrian troops of the automated control system will provide the centralized control of the Syrian air defense, monitoring the air situation and the prompt issuance of target designations, according to the Shoigu's statement.

            Shoigu also promised that henceforth in the areas adjacent to Syria over the Mediterranean Sea will be carried out electronic suppression of satellite navigation, airborne radars and communication systems of military aircraft attacking targets in Syrian territory. Minister expressed his conviction that these measures will cool "hot heads" and keep them from rash actions.
            DON'T, YOU ARE NOT TV AT LITTER.
            1. Sanichsan
              Sanichsan 9 January 2021 21: 38
              -2
              Quote: Vitaly Gusin
              “The S-300 is capable of intercepting air attack weapons at ranges of more than 250 km and simultaneously hit several air targets,” said Shoigu. The complex has high noise immunity and rate of fire, the minister said.

              I wrote that there are no questions? there is clearly nothing to discuss request
              Quote: Vitaly Gusin
              Supplies to the Syrian troops ACS will provide centralized control of the Syrian air defense, monitoring of the air situation and the rapid issuance of target designations, the statement said Shoigu.

              again, no promises to fight the Jews request
              Quote: Vitaly Gusin
              Shoigu also promised that henceforth, in the areas adjacent to Syria over the Mediterranean Sea, electronic suppression of satellite navigation, airborne radars and communication systems of military aircraft attacking targets in Syrian territory will be carried out. The minister expressed his conviction that these measures would cool the "hotheads" and keep them from rash actions.
              DON'T, YOU ARE NOT TV AT LITTER.

              ah i yay No. Do you feel like "TV at the Litter"? I don't know what this means in your vocabulary request
              let's look at the full quote:
              Shoigu also promised that henceforth, in the areas adjacent to Syria over the Mediterranean Sea, electronic suppression of satellite navigation, airborne radars and communication systems of military aircraft attacking targets in Syrian territory will be carried out. The minister expressed his conviction that these measures would cool the "hotheads" and keep them from rash actions, posing a threat to Russian military personnel... Otherwise, the minister warned, Russian Armed the forces will be forced to react in accordance with the prevailing situation.

              now strain and explain why did you cut off the most significant part of the quote?
              that's all? Are the questions for analysis complete? laughing
              1. Vitaly gusin
                Vitaly gusin 10 January 2021 09: 34
                0
                Quote: SanichSan
                now strain yourself and explain why you cut off the most essential part of the quote?

                I personally did not cut anything, quotes are taken from publications.
                Quote: SanichSan
                that's all? Are the questions for analysis complete?

                No questions.
                The analysis is complete, but the failure of the S-300 remains, but the loudest will occur after the first missile launch at unidentified flying objects.
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 10 January 2021 10: 29
                  0
                  Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                  The analysis is over,

                  I was wrong, the analysis is incomplete.
                  Between Israel and Iran: why the S-400s silently watch the Syrian sky
                  Why Triumph does not open fire on Israeli Air Force planes in Syria

                  Mikhail Khodarenok 08.01.2021, 17:25
                  https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2021/01/08/13429532.shtml
                  1 Please do not write that this is gazeta.ru VSEVRET, this is the opinion of Russia's leading observers.
                  2 And they don't even remember about the S-300, as if they weren't there, or maybe they really aren't.
                  1. Sanichsan
                    Sanichsan 10 January 2021 15: 11
                    -2
                    you better write why the S-400 should attack the planes of Israel? do we have a war with Israel? when did it start?
                    Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                    1 Please do not write that this is gazeta.ru VSEVRET, this is the opinion of Russia's leading observers.

                    1) edrit pound! belay so let the "leading observers of Russia" buy a decommissioned oil platform, declare it a sovereign state, declare war on Israel on behalf of this state, and go to Syria to shoot down Israeli planes with Hezbollah, if Hezbola are their best friends. they can even buy the C400 by throwing off. Russia has something to do with?!?
                    2) did you read the article or just the title? the article is a sucking of another Greek push from Pentapostagma. but personally I recommend you read the article. if you can't master the whole thing, then at least the last part "Should Moscow answer?" yes
                    1. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin 10 January 2021 15: 40
                      0
                      Quote: SanichSan
                      you better write why the S-400 should attack the planes of Israel? do we have a war with Israel? when did it start?

                      This is what I wrote in my first post.
                      An article about the S-400 air defense system in Syria was published in the Greek edition of Pentapostagma. Columnist Panayotis Nastos titled his material in the Greek press as follows: "Why do S-400 air defense systems remain" spectators "when Israel hits Iranian targets in Syria?"
                      This question is simply provocative and there is no point in discussing it.
                      Quote: SanichSan
                      but personally I recommend you read the article. if you can't master the whole thing, then at least the last part "Should Moscow answer?"

                      I hope you are convinced of what you read.
                      By the way, it is still impossible to answer such questions unambiguously by analyzing the role of the USSR in the Arab-Israeli wars of the 1960s-1970s.
                      1. Sanichsan
                        Sanichsan 10 January 2021 16: 32
                        -2
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        This question is simply provocative and there is no point in discussing it.

                        what is provocative about this issue? it is quite logical and obvious! why should the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation save the Iranian Hezbollah, who are not friends at all, from the strikes of the Israeli air force and get involved in the war with Israel? unlike Hasbola, Russia has close economic ties with Israel, if they suddenly forgot. and most importantly, on what basis? so that some journalist who does not really like Jews and compose that "C300 will now show all these Israelis !!", did not look like a sucker? belay
                        we have already established that the RF Ministry of Defense, represented by Shoigu, has never promised anywhere that the C300 and C400 will save Hezbollah and shoot down the Jews. so where is the intrigue?
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        I hope you are convinced of what you read.

                        then even more incomprehensible situation. request if you read that further in the article it is chewed on why the C300 and C400 do not shoot at the Israelis and will not shoot until the Israeli Air Force begins to pose a threat to the RF Armed Forces. Note, the danger is not even for the Syrians, and even more so for Hezbollah, but specifically for the RF Armed Forces.
                        the maxims that "they do not knock anyone down because they cannot do anything" leave the Ukrainian pytsriots. the Turks have purchased, have already conducted a number of exercises using the S400 and available NATO aircraft and are quite satisfied. for some reason they did not refuse the idea of ​​buying a few more divisions. but for some reason the United States was afraid to transfer F35 to a country that has an С400 and which can check who does not get anywhere and who is inconspicuous there wink Let me remind you that the Turks bought our air defense for purely military reasons, after the coup d'etat failed and took it despite all the attendant difficulties.
  13. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 8 January 2021 09: 30
    -3
    In the Greek press: Why the S-400 air defense systems remain "spectators" when Israel hits Iranian targets in Syria

    What is there to guess? Because Netanyahu is a frequent guest of the Russian president ... Because Iran does not have the S-400 ... Because Syria cannot wage a war against the Israeli army ... Because the methods of waging war in order to achieve victory can be anything .. Because the Aerospace Forces should not pay attention to provocations ... Because neither Syria nor Iran has a strategy of retaliatory strikes ...
    That is why the planes that fired missiles from the airspace of a neighboring country land safely at their airfield, and at landing they are not met by a group of suicide bombers with stingers or some Bavar ...
  14. Ros 56
    Ros 56 8 January 2021 09: 39
    -2
    And who is the Greek press, you have to ask first. Let these lip-slaves take an interest, why can't their Armed Forces stand up for themselves against the Turks?
    1. Pavlos Melas
      Pavlos Melas 8 January 2021 10: 53
      +4
      And who is the Greek press, you have to ask first. Let these lip-slaves take an interest, why can't their Armed Forces stand up for themselves against the Turks?

      To be indignant at the quality of the Greek press under the article of the resource "from Meehan for Mikhanov" is, to put it mildly, not very smart. hi
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 8 January 2021 13: 11
        0
        What, immediately zasverbilo when the truth was heard and let's throw minuses?
        1. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 8 January 2021 14: 18
          +3
          The minus is not for the truth, but not for objectivity. The stupid edition does not represent the entire Greek press.
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  15. da Vinci
    da Vinci 8 January 2021 09: 42
    +1
    And why the Greeks don't ask the Lebanese: why doesn't Lebanon shoot down other people's planes over its territory?
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 8 January 2021 10: 31
      +5
      Quote: da Vinci
      And why the Greeks don't ask the Lebanese: why doesn't Lebanon shoot down other people's planes over its territory?

      Because there is nothing. Air defense is not a cheap thing. Lebanon is a bankrupt state. The army is purely nominal, there is no air force or air defense. And no one will allow the Hezbalons to deploy air defense or acquire fighters.
  16. Nikolay1987
    Nikolay1987 8 January 2021 09: 44
    +3
    Time shows that any blogger publishing his speculations is proudly called a journalist.
  17. Owl
    Owl 8 January 2021 09: 55
    +4
    Merchants will always agree among themselves ... They don't have allies, they only have partners, and these partners (as in sex) can change ...
  18. Prisoner
    Prisoner 8 January 2021 10: 03
    +3
    The Greek mows like a fool. With what joy do we cover Iranian facilities in Syria? They play their game there, we play ours. Moreover, the interests do not particularly coincide. And wait for the return fire of the aircraft after the S-400 fired at them? What is "blessed is he who believes."
    1. VasYok
      VasYok 10 January 2021 02: 31
      0
      With what joy do we cover Iranian facilities in Syria?

      I remember how Konashenkov beat himself in the chest with his heel, claiming that Tehran was our ally on the anti-terrorist operation. And in this regard, he provided our bombers with his airfield.
  19. Soko
    Soko 8 January 2021 10: 07
    +18
    this allows the defense industry of Russia and the United States to ensure the sale of arms and military equipment to third countries

    Well ... the Greek revealed the whole scheme ... lol
  20. mag nit
    mag nit 8 January 2021 10: 12
    0
    In general, a one-time horror story.
  21. cniza
    cniza 8 January 2021 10: 38
    +1
    The message is that if Russia used the S-400 against the F-35, then either the fifth generation fighter would be destroyed, or the S-400 air defense system itself would be returned fire.


    And these are what they are doing fortune-telling ...
  22. Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 8 January 2021 10: 58
    +3
    How sad it is pandapostagm again, there would be no defense point or other publications to translate, but here again it's cheap ... negative
  23. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 8 January 2021 11: 36
    +1
    The Russian Federation is not at war with Israel, the war in Syria is moving into a quieter phase and the Iranians are not needed by Syria and the Russian Federation as a political force in Syria. Therefore, no one bothers Israel to deal with the Iranians.
    The air defense forces of the Russian Federation will only be enough to repel random attacks on the Airbase ..... for this it was installed. As well as VKS forces. To cool off the hotheads (mainly Turkish and Arab), they showed the launches of "caliber" missiles and announced their range. And there is nothing to share with Israel. This is exactly the case when Israel itself loses a lot from supporting the sanctions against the Russian Federation ... and good relations with the Russian Federation mean for it an influx of money and the sale of expensive equipment and electronics.
    1. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 8 January 2021 11: 46
      +3
      Quote: Zaurbek
      This is just the case when Israel itself loses from supporting sanctions against the RF a lot.

      I agree with every line except the one highlighted.
      Israel NOT participated and NOT participates in sanctions against Russia.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 8 January 2021 11: 54
        +1
        Nevertheless, many technologies involve the United States .... and Israel itself cannot supply them to the Russian Federation.
        As an example, Airbus's refusal to supply civilian airliners to Iran.
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 8 January 2021 12: 24
          +3
          Quote: Zaurbek
          However, in many technology there is the participation of the United States .... and Israel itself cannot supply them to the Russian Federation.

          You forgot to add MILITARY or dual-use.
          Quote: Zaurbek
          As an example, Airbus's refusal to supply civilian airliners to Iran.

          This is according to UN sanctions and is not related to Israel, which is what we are discussing as a swami.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek 8 January 2021 12: 38
            +2
            Sechas the concept of "double" is so capacious .... South Africa specially develops its MRAP on commercial units. The Americans, for example, banned the Cummins diesel engine for the Tigers, and then for the GAZ group for Gazelles. And about Iran: The sanctions are over and the Americans have introduced their own. As with the Russian Federation. The sanctions are not in effect by the UN, and cooperation in the military sectors is frozen. The last - UAV - Surcher.
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 8 January 2021 13: 24
              +3
              Quote: Zaurbek
              Now the concept of "double" is so capacious.

              For Israel, very clear and specific. EVERYTHING RELATED TO US JOINT TECHNOLOGY. Israel sells its own, you probably know that UAVs were sold as well as their production for a total of 400 million dollars.
              Russia has not bought foreign weapons for such amounts since the Second World War!
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek 8 January 2021 13: 29
                +1
                Well, don't confuse those $ with the current ones ... but they didn't sell everything that ours wanted ... and quickly curtailed cooperation ...
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 8 January 2021 13: 50
                  +3
                  Quote: Zaurbek
                  Well, don't confuse those $ with the current ones ... but they didn't sell everything that ours wanted ... and quickly curtailed cooperation ...

                  Dear I do not confuse anything
                  You wrote
                  Israel loses a lot from supporting sanctions against the Russian Federation ..
                  My answer was
                  Israel NOT participated and NOT participates in sanctions against Russia.
                  All you had to do was just agree. this FACT
                  You started talking about South Africa, Gazelle, what was the dollar.
                  You must be able to admit mistakes!
                  1. Zaurbek
                    Zaurbek 8 January 2021 13: 58
                    0
                    I wrote that I was losing ..... now ... because. there is no new business. and I wrote that they sold the license .... but in what years was it? Remember.
                    1. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin 8 January 2021 14: 20
                      +2
                      Quote: Zaurbek
                      I wrote that I was losing ..... now ... because.

                      Once again!
                      Israel itself loses from supporting sanctions against the Russian Federation a lot ... and good relations with the Russian Federation mean for him an inflow of money and the sale of expensive equipment and electronics.[
                      And as for good relations with Russia, they are the best today since 1951.
                      1. Zaurbek
                        Zaurbek 8 January 2021 14: 58
                        0
                        Quite right .... because now the repetition of the deal on uavs or systems to them in Russia from Israel is impossible!
  24. _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 8 January 2021 11: 37
    +3
    Why S-400 air defense systems remain "spectators" when Israel hits Iranian targets in Syria
    because we did not sign up to defend Iranian targets in Syria, we do not fight with any countries there
  25. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 8 January 2021 11: 51
    +1
    S-300s were sold to Syria, not S-400s.
    The Greek was wrong.
    S-300s cover the Masyaf industrial area and west of Damascus.
    1. ender
      ender 8 January 2021 12: 35
      +3
      not sold, but donated

      The anti-aircraft missile systems that Damascus received are not new, a military diplomatic source said.
      Russia supplied Syria with three divisions of the S-300PM anti-aircraft missile system "free of charge." As on Monday, October 8, the TASS news agency reported, citing a source in the military-diplomatic industry, that the equipment is not new, it has "undergone a major overhaul."
      https://korrespondent.net/world/4020035-syryia-ne-platyla-za-kompleksy-s-300-smy
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 9 January 2021 02: 19
      0

      voyaka uh (Alexey)
      Yesterday, 11: 51
      NEW
      0
      S-300 sold to Syria, not the S-400.
      The Greek was wrong.
      S-300s cover the Masyaf industrial area and west of Damascus.
      Hitch, mlyn bully , again with a finger in the uh ... the sky. This is only Israel the owner SELLS wassat , and Russia - on a "gratuitous basis"
      Source: Russia donated three S-300PM divisions to Syria
      According to the interlocutor of the agency, "along with the launchers, a transportable ammunition load of more than 100 anti-aircraft guided missiles for each division was delivered to Syria."

      Russia has supplied three divisions of the S-300 "Favorite" air defense system, consisting of 8 launchers each to Syria, free of charge. Writes about this TASS
      Something like this, better teach materiel! tongue
  26. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 8 January 2021 12: 00
    0
    Some go to the covid front, others are forced to curtail their activities to create percent of GDP due to the impotence of the disintegration of the collective. laughing Greeks - take it easy during a good mess and -300 won't help you. laughing
  27. vm68dm
    vm68dm 8 January 2021 12: 07
    +2
    author -> author -> author do not read you Pentapostagma !!! there are more serious publications.
    https://www.defencenet.gr/ https://www.ptisidiastima.com/
  28. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 8 January 2021 13: 32
    0
    The author claims that this "avoids confrontation between the F-35 fighters of the Israeli Air Force and the Russian S-400 air defense systems."

    Do the Jews use the FE-35 in shelling?
    At the same time, foreign experts, raising this issue, are often not at all familiar with its essence and did not even understand

    Panayiotis also seems to be that "expert" ...
    1. Sergey Sfiedu
      Sergey Sfiedu 8 January 2021 17: 44
      0
      They wrote that yes, they use it periodically.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 8 January 2021 21: 16
        -1
        Well, of course, I don't pretend to be a know-it-all expert ... request I don't particularly follow this topic. Heard only out of the corner of my ear about "performing reconnaissance flights", about the bird-damaged super ashtray, and about the F-35's unpreparedness for high-intensity combat operations and its short range.
        1. Sergey Sfiedu
          Sergey Sfiedu 9 January 2021 06: 07
          0
          If the pepelats were bad, they wouldn't order the third squadron.
          1. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 9 January 2021 11: 26
            0
            Quote: Sergey Sfyedu
            If the pepelats were bad, they wouldn't order the third squadron.

            Probably... request
            If heroin-cocaine did harm - who would let it through his veins?
  29. A_Lex
    A_Lex 8 January 2021 13: 50
    0
    It's just that the United States and Israel are senior partners. You can quarrel with them, you can portray the conflict on TV, but you cannot enter into real confrontation. For the same reason, the swift is not turned off. Because it makes no sense for the metropolis to block the channel through which tribute from the colony comes to it.
  30. Slava slava
    Slava slava 8 January 2021 15: 25
    +1
    Iran is our export competitor of gas to Europe and it is not in our interests to secure the Iranians in Syria, besides, they already have an agreement with Assad on the construction of a railway from the port of Khamenei in Iran to the port of Latakia on the Mediterranean Sea, which they have already leased from Syria in long. Russia also leases the port of Tartus for the transit of energy resources from Iraq, so we do not need a competitor in the form of Iran in the Middle East.
  31. Old26
    Old26 8 January 2021 16: 25
    +7
    Quote: Victor_B
    I believe that if the Jews strike at our military, then no "dome" will save the airbase from the pogrom!

    Well, they're not complete fuckers, are they? We have an agreement with them. They don't attack our targets, we don't shoot at them. And let the Iranians defend themselves.

    Quote: hydrox
    but power in the United States will collapse - and the situation will radically change and Israel will sit like a mouse under a broom - quietly, quietly ...

    Do you seriously think that power in the United States will collapse? Trump then called on his supporters, then now he accuses them of pogroms. And "the sum does not change from the change of the places of the terms." Whether a Democrat or a Republican is in power, the power will not collapse from this. Only there will be different views on the same problem. Whether Biden's work will be more acceptable to us and others than Trump's - we'll wait and see. But Israel will not abandon the United States
    And the time has passed when Israel was "one against all" and it would have been difficult for it to do without such an ally as the United States. Now almost all neighbors have peace treaties with Israel (except Syria) and they don't need war and nafig. Even those with whom Israel has never had a relationship, such as the Saudis and the monarchies of the Persian Gulf - and then there are contacts between them. Israel "grew" from the time when its all-round support was required.

    Quote: ROSS 42
    Quote: Victor_B
    I believe that if the Jews strike at our military, then no "dome" will save the airbase from the pogrom!

    And I hope so. yes

    What do you hope for? That the Jews will strike at ours, or that there will be a response? So I repeat, the Jews are not fools to strike at our bases, they do not need it. The relationship that is now in Syria between Russia and Israel is quite satisfied with both sides

    Quote: Thrifty
    Joint 75 - Persians have lived in this region for many thousands of years! They are fighting for brothers in faith, they do not conclude agreements behind the back of Russia, as the Israelis and I do, the Persians are right in their own way, they should live there, and we are only guests. And we are trying to impose our own charter in a strange monastery, figuratively speaking!

    Well, based on this logic, you can recall the Ottoman Empire and say, and the Turks are there with business, and we are guests ... We did not go there. Us invited Assad, when he realized that he had a "pipe business" and another month and he would find himself in the same situation as Hussein or Gaddafi

    Quote: Thrifty
    But, "our" authorities had to clearly decide even when they were sending troops into Syria that this is the second Afghanistan, and we need to put pressure on the militants, the same ISIS, as a result, and as a result, massive agreements with everyone in a row!

    Read the documents of our Foreign Ministry for that period. There, clearly, in black and white, all the goals that Russia set for itself were announced. Fighting for Syria against someone was not there.
  32. Wolf
    Wolf 8 January 2021 16: 31
    0
    This article was written in MI6, and signed by Panayotis or whatever his name is! In the evenings, a new NATO chief was installed in Sarajevo and a deputy! And what about the Turkish sanctions and the C400? laughing Zelloni transversal to Sarajevo is already getting a little road and military support, but can we expect an aggravation in the Balkans? When the Balkan is BURNING, RUSSIA IS BURNING THIS IS A SPACE LAW! Why? Pa because if Russia is on fire, and the Balkan is not on fire, they will be worth a sword over the head! wink
    1. Wolf
      Wolf 8 January 2021 16: 45
      0
      Means so that people would no longer be deceived !!! In history, always the west, and especially the Zlobriti, attacked Rusiu and the Orthodox Slavs, so that they sent different papaus from BV and southwestern Asia, and they were simultaneously from the west. So today the USA, Israel, Turkey are in the UNION and will simultaneously attack. And ete the tale of sanctions, etc. ..... empty say to someone else, Gulen is resting in the United States, so that the Sultan does not relax, and the Balkans promised him a gift from the United States, and Israel helps.
  33. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 8 January 2021 16: 44
    0
    Quote: Slava Slava
    Iran is our export competitor of gas to Europe and it is not in our interests to secure the Iranians in Syria, besides, they already have an agreement with Assad on the construction of a railway from the port of Khamenei in Iran to the port of Latakia on the Mediterranean Sea, which they have already leased from Syria in long. Russia also leases the port of Tartus for the transit of energy resources from Iraq, so we do not need a competitor in the form of Iran in the Middle East.

    Mutual trade between the EAEU and IRAN increased by 15% in the first six months of the Temporary Agreement on a free trade zone signed between them. On the transition to the second stage of the formation of a common gas market of the Eurasian Economic Union. " laughing
  34. rozman
    rozman 8 January 2021 17: 23
    0
    Theorists! Air-to-ground missiles are going over the territory of Syria. They can be used for practical shooting by our air defense missile systems. You can shoot, at least from 300 or 400, it doesn't matter. You need to learn your own air defense not only on simulators and training grounds of the Russian Federation. This game will be more interesting than driving devils on computers. And there will definitely be those who wish.
  35. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 8 January 2021 17: 30
    +1
    Quote: Wolf
    Means so that people would no longer be deceived !!! In history, always the west, and especially the Zlobriti, attacked Rusiu and the Orthodox Slavs, so that they sent different papaus from BV and southwestern Asia, and they were simultaneously from the west. So today the USA, Israel, Turkey are in the UNION and will simultaneously attack. And ete the tale of sanctions, etc. ..... empty say to someone else, Gulen is resting in the United States, so that the Sultan does not relax, and the Balkans promised him a gift from the United States, and Israel helps.

    Something, looking at the current brothers, there is no special desire to harness, but especially for the Greeks. No.
  36. high
    high 8 January 2021 18: 15
    +1
    The message is that if Russia used the S-400 against the F-35, then either the fifth generation fighter would be destroyed, or the S-400 air defense system itself would be returned fire.

    Perhaps, but this is not the main thing: Russia is interested in squeezing Iran out of Syria ...
  37. shahor
    shahor 8 January 2021 18: 58
    +1
    Quote: ROSS 42
    or some "Bavar" ...

    Well, as far as I remember, the Israelis carried out some Bavarian along with the Chinese radar attached to it 6-8 months ago ...
  38. vavilon
    vavilon 9 January 2021 00: 43
    +1
    In some ways, the Greek is right, because today everything is measured in green waste paper, and for our bureaucrats there is only one "blah-blah-was" in their heads
  39. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 9 January 2021 10: 01
    0
    The Greek may be wrong, but the fact of the helplessness of the Russian air defense systems against Israeli raids on the face !!!

    Syria has both Pantsiri and Buki and S-200s, but all of this is practically useless and the maximum it can do is to shoot down some of the missiles, while the other part of the Israeli missiles hit targets, and Israel's planes go unpunished.

    Even if we had brought the S-400 into battle, this would not have improved the situation in any way, and besides, this complex would probably have been struck, like our entire base in Khmeimim.

    A pile of cruise missiles and dozens of Israeli drones would give the S-400 no chance.

    You can puff out your cheeks as much as you want, but the fact is that Israel is bombing Syria whenever it wants and how it wants.

    We need not only mobile air defense systems, but also modular ones like the Israeli Iron Dome - separate launchers, separate radars and command posts, which can be placed closer to the border and in the event of a defeat, for example, a radar or launcher, one more could be put into operation. answer, despite the fact that people would not suffer even if all modules were damaged. CP can always be more reliably camouflaged.

    While we are building expensive air defense systems with a range of 600 km, they are building cheap drones capable of flying 1000 km and hitting our complexes, and all this is filmed and shown on YouTube.

    Russian air defense in Syria is just a disgrace. And an even greater shame is that nothing has changed in so many years.
  40. Sergey10789
    Sergey10789 9 January 2021 12: 22
    -1
    Why S-400 "spectator"? Everything is much simpler and more prosaic - the appointment.
    The S-400 is designed to defend large industrial and administrative facilities, military bases and command posts against attacks from enemy aerospace attack weapons. The s-300/400 will never shoot at some kind of mosquito, such as "fighter / attack aircraft / helicopter", there are other means for this. Well, or should be. An average fighter will cause less damage than the cost of the missile that will shoot it down, that's all the reasons for the silence of the S-400!)
  41. VasYok
    VasYok 10 January 2021 02: 19
    +1
    "Because the S-400s were delivered to Syria to protect Russian military installations in that country."

    Couldn't you think of anything more stupid?
    Russia donated the C300 to Syria and trained the Syrians to defend Russian military installations in that country.
    # rzhunimagu laughing laughing laughing
  42. VasYok
    VasYok 10 January 2021 02: 44
    +1
    Why SAM S-400 remain "spectators"

    One cannot help but recall the words of Bibi to his friend Putin: the IDF will destroy ANY PURPOSE that harmed Israel. In response, Putin recognized Israel's RIGHT TO SELF-DEFENSE.
    You know, a Jew is not an enemy to a Jew. Therefore, do not shoot.
  43. Lew
    Lew 11 January 2021 12: 58
    -1
    because someone is very friendly with the Jews .... will finish badly
  44. Evgeny Seleznev
    Evgeny Seleznev 13 January 2021 21: 53
    0
    If serious. Demonstrator of the capabilities of Putin's military-industrial complex crap in Syria (conditions close to combat). Instead of advertising weapons, they received anti-advertising. And the loss of the arms sales market and reputation. The fact is. Here the proud Armenians were embarrassed with air defense and other things.