US Navy intends to ensure "freedom of navigation" in the Arctic

The US Navy intends to ensure freedom of shipping and navigation in the Arctic. This was announced by the Secretary of the Navy Kenneth Braithwaite.

According to the minister, the American fleet will begin regular patrols off the Russian coast in the Arctic. Thus, the US Navy intends to prevent "Moscow's offensive in the Far North" and to challenge "Chinese claims." Braithwaite promised to act "more aggressively."

Answering a question from journalists about whether the US Navy will be able to conduct "operations to ensure freedom of navigation" off Russia's northern coast, the minister answered in the affirmative, comparing the situation with the situation in the South China Sea, where American ships appear regularly. Therefore, the US Navy, being the "dominant naval force in the world," using its "rights and responsibilities", guarantees its partners "freedom of navigation."

Seaways in the North are becoming navigable, the US Navy is about to guarantee our partners freedom of navigation

- he added.

Braithwaite named submarines as the main advantage of the United States over Russia in the Arctic, but at the same time admitted that the United States does not have its own icebreaker fleet, so the Navy will rent icebreakers.

It should be noted that this is not the first time that the United States has declared its "right" to ensure "freedom of navigation" in the region of the Russian Northern Sea Route, making it "international."

Comments

[Victor_B]

Seaways in the North are becoming navigable, the US Navy is about to guarantee our partners freedom of navigation

Aha
But can we use the East Passage?
Or will the mattresses object if our ships sail along Alaska?
Without asking ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Victor_B

Or will the mattresses object if our ships sail along Alaska?

And what to do there near this Alaska, let them go there themselves.

[Victor_B]

Quote: tihonmarine

And what to do there near this Alaska, let them go there themselves.

And what do they want on our shores?
Our "Arctic" would have taken and passed along the entire coast of Alaska and Canada, and closer to the coast ...
For Neh!
That would be a screech! ..

[Machito]

Quote: Victor_B

Quote: tihonmarine

And what to do there near this Alaska, let them go there themselves.

And what do they want on our shores?
Our "Arctic" would have taken and passed along the entire coast of Alaska and Canada, and closer to the coast ...
For Neh!
That would be a screech! ..

Why the Arctic at once? Maybe it's better to send the "peaceful" Papanin there to ensure navigation?

[bulvas]

It's time to equip our icebreakers with means of fighting boats and surface ships.

And let them rent what they want

[Lycan]

Here our "Arctic" would have taken and passed along the entire coast of Alaska and Canada

.. along the way, disabling all navigation systems of all approaching patrol vessels, submarines and aircraft, respectively. countries. But this, at best, is "sanctions for the Russian Federation for everything up to the arrest and transfer to concentration camps of all its residents who have passports of Russian citizens."

[GriggoT]

Are you among the escorted or convoyed? No, you are not from gr. RF. Then worry about your concentration camps! There are no concentration camps in Russia, sick!

[Lycan]

Quote: Lycan

up to the arrest and transfer to concentration camps of all its residents who have citizenship passports. RF

It's about the passage of an icebreaker along the coast Alaska and Canada, i.e. the opening of concentration camps in the SGA and Canada with the subsequent corral there

Quote: Lycan

of its residents with citizenship passports. RF

P.S. Nobody talks about camps in Russia.

[antivirus]

throw off expired sea mines and let them lie. waiting for detonation from Tsirkons. for the Baltic so after WWII the norm was. and right now, okay.
And so happiness will sail to freemen from Alaska.

[Starover_Z]

the US Navy will begin regular patrols off Russian shores in the Arctic.

Borzot!
Eh, there would be more Russian fleet to go on patrol along the American coast!

[novel66]

generally surround !! palisade!

[bessmertniy]

Alaska, not Alaska, but Russia has an urgent need to ensure the freedom of international shipping in the Gulf of Mexico.

[novel66]

and fishing !!!

[antivirus]

take higher and wider "and fish breeding ... moths of pike and ratana". fish (?) bite the cables - so this is from poverty of plankton - all BP poisoned.
And if the supports and anchors are eaten at some oil and gas platforms, the fish will be to blame. The Russian Federation is ready to supply oil to the United States and Mexico.

[Machito]

Quote: bessmertniy

Alaska, not Alaska, but Russia has an urgent need to ensure the freedom of international shipping in the Gulf of Mexico.

In the Gulf of California, too, not everything is in order with the reproduction of killer whales due to the catch of fish by the Americans, and in Russian San Francisco, sea otters suffer greatly due to intensive navigation.

[KCA]

In fact, killer whales are not fish, but marine mammals and they eat mainly seals and all kinds of fur seals, possibly from the American special forces

[Machito]

There are two types of killer whales: some feed on animals, sharks, etc., and others on fish. Those that eat fish live near California.

[bk0010]

Yes, at least in their waters for these obsolete mines to throw.

[iouris]

Quote: Victor_B

Or will the mattresses object if our ships sail along Alaska?

What for? Is it really cheaper or faster to deliver goods from China to Europe through Alaska? And prove it.

[eklmn]

“Or will the mattresses mind if our ships go along Alaska?
Without asking ... "
Walk along Alaska as much as you want !! And without asking !! Because the requirement of such countries as China, Russia, Vietnam to inform in advance about the passage of ships through their international border waters is illegal.
24 miles from the coast is the border. Further - 300 miles, economic zone. You do not need permission to walk through it.

[Thrifty]

So we need to make sure that the boats are permanently and permanently frozen into the ice, and no rescue operation was carried out on our side! The lack of a Russian fleet comes out to us with such impudence on the part of the USA.

[Rostislav]

our boats were frozen in the ice, and no rescue operation was carried out on our side!

We ought to teach a lesson, but not. By the law of the sea, and by conscience, it is necessary to help those who give the SOS signal.
Without an icebreaker and a pilot, today only walking can go to the NSR, so willy-nilly, you need to apply for permission for everything.
And what actions are provided if there is such a "smart guy"? He will scream as he squeezes, and all the same he will have to be saved.

[Rusticolus]

We ought to teach a lesson, but not. By the law of the sea, and by conscience, it is necessary to help those who give the SOS signal.

This is who told you such nonsense？ The warships of the enemy who are at war with the country should not be saved, but finished off. Whether they serve sos or not. Unless they have time to surrender, and even then it is not necessary to take prisoners.

[antivirus]

they need to be rescued - and to the port of Severomorsk for intensive treatment

[Grits]

Quote: antivirus

they need to be rescued - and to the port of Severomorsk for intensive treatment

They say that occupational therapy, and even in 40-degree frost, greatly strengthens the body

[raw174]

Quote: Rusticolus

Warships of the enemy waging a war with the country need not be saved, but finished off. Whether they serve sos or not

What kind of youthful maximalism? Tell me, since when have the USA and the Russian Federation been at war? Only without personal judgment, give a document or a statement of the first persons.

[Rusticolus]

Yes, as much as necessary, if you take the top officials of the United States. They all, sometimes oppose aggression, sometimes defend democracy.

[raw174]

Quote: Rusticolus

Yes, as much as necessary, if you take the top officials of the United States. They all, sometimes oppose aggression, sometimes defend democracy.

Let's quote about the STATE OF WAR with the Russian Federation, and not about rivalry, neutralizing threats and other attacks. You said exactly:

Enemy warships

The fact is that such concepts as an adversary, in military terms, imply a certain status of relations between the parties, specifically - a declaration of war or a military attack on an opponent, or did I miss something and the US used weapons against the Russian Federation?

[Rusticolus]

You will not argue that they consider us opponents？ Or are you one of those who still see them as partners？ And you probably missed a lot. Remember the same phrase by the Clintons about the fact that Russia and China will pay ... So why can't I voice about the same opinion？ At least I'm not an official person, my demand is small. I can even declare war on them. Who forbids me？

[raw174]

Quote: Rusticolus

You will not argue that they consider us opponents？

Of course they consider, well, at least as rivals for sure ...

At least I am not an official person, my demand is small. I can even declare war on them. Who forbids me?

This is the point, whether you or I or V.V. Zhirinovsky say, we can do anything, I started this polemic because of your specific proposal:

Warships of the enemy waging a war with the country need not be saved, but finished off.

In fact, you are proposing to the Russian Federation to unleash World War III by attacking a US military facility with which we are not at war.

[Rusticolus]

Okay, persuaded. The first thing that came across in 20 seconds of search.
https://life.ru/p/1192668
Enough？

[raw174]

Quote: Rusticolus

Enough？

No, just because the military are not the first persons of the state, I did not mention Zhirinovsky for nothing, he also has a lot of similar aggressive populist rhetoric. Top officials - the president, prime minister and their counterparts ...

[roadsmell]

Why would they be frozen?

We are strongly against freezing:

The main advantage of the United States over Russia in the Arctic, Braithwaite called submarines, but at the same time admitted that the United States does not have its own icebreaker fleet, so the Navy will rent icebreakers.

Rent icebreakers !!!
Here's the brain juice!

And I even know who they are planning to rent from.

[Sayan]

Quote: roadsmell

Why would they be frozen?

We are strongly against freezing:

The main advantage of the United States over Russia in the Arctic, Braithwaite called submarines, but at the same time admitted that the United States does not have its own icebreaker fleet, so the Navy will rent icebreakers.

Rent icebreakers !!!
Here's the brain juice!

And I even know who they are planning to rent from.

I can already see - entot pepper is calling in the Russian Ministry of Defense - "I order you, I will give us an icebreaker, to escort our ships, ensuring the freedom of navigation of the SMV, freedom of reproduction of polar bears, walruses and democracy

[Olkhovsky]

Norwegians can rent.

[pv1005]

Quote: Olkhovsky

Norwegians can rent.

Do the Norgs have a lot of icebreakers capable of passing the NSR without assistance?

[hydrox]

Norges will not go there, because we can impose obscenities on them first, then sanctions, and finally take away 80 thousand square kilometers of fishing, and even with our oil (about $ 5 billion), which Dimon foolishly presented to the norgs.
It will seem a little - we will take away Spitsbergen (when the States completely die ...)

[Olkhovsky]

Norges will not go there, because we can impose obscenities on them first, then sanctions, and finally take away 80 thousand square kilometers of fishing, and even with our oil (about $ 5 billion),

I'll just leave it here.

MOSCOW, October 29, 2020, 17:38 - REGNUM Information about the invasion of the Norwegian military icebreaker KV Svalbard on one of the routes of the Northern Sea Route (NSR), without permission from the Russian Federation, caused controversy in the network


Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3102779.html
Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM.

[hydrox]

A child is born completely helpless, then learns to walk - a nursery, a kindergarten, then learns to fight and until the end of school from time to time is declared with a broken nose, then goes to the army, begins to understand politics and suddenly feels his muscles commanding the wicks, and then the hormonal perestroika arrives in time ... - but all this over time, and each lesson has its own time.
So are the steps of human development clear?

[Grits]

Quote: hydrox

It will seem a little - we will take away Spitsbergen (when the States completely die ...)

When the States are completely dead, the norgi from fear will give Russia not only Grumant, but also their entire northern part. So, just in case. As compensation for participating in NATO.

[hydrox]

This is a good idea, and I would say - elegant, but for this it is necessary that NATO's Russophobic military ideology of "over-the-top" should die, replacing it with the recognition of "weakness for all time" - and the Scandinavians are gradually beginning to get used to this position - after all, taxes are prohibitive, and salaries and the social sector still causes dissatisfaction, but there is not enough money to satisfy the well-being of all strata, so that they can also increase military spending (looks like our situation! ) ...
But they won't give us the northern (fiord) part, otherwise where they can grow chemical salmon and trout for Russia - such grandmothers earn for free!

[K-36]

Olkhovsky Norwegians can rent.

Probably they can. But in 2005. the government of amers turned to Russia for help.
And our icebreaker Krasin saved their Antarctic Expeditionary Station. All (two!) Amer icebreakers could not do this!
Here is an almost documentary film about this (and not only!) Rescue epic. You just need to watch the whole movie. Then an objective opinion will be formed about the capabilities of the icebreaker fleet of both the United States and Russia.
In ice captivity. "Krasin" returns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPEYrc84uwA.
I really hope that the film will be very informative for those who have never faced the ruthlessness of the ice. Happy viewing.

[iouris]

Quote: roadsmell

I even know who they plan to rent from

Guess who has a lot of unnecessary icebreakers? In addition, the ice will soon melt by itself.

[Momotomba]

Quote: Thrifty

no rescue operation was carried out on our side!

It is still unknown who will be lucky

[aszzz888]

According to the minister, the American fleet will begin regular patrols off the Russian coast in the Arctic.

Have you already prepared the pawns?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aszzz888

Have you already prepared the pawns?

Forgot to say about hats with earflaps and felt boots.

[Fedor Sokolov]

Balalaika, samovar and Tula gingerbread, where can we go without them!

[bessmertniy]

And more bears. Especially the whites!

[paul3390]

This does not work against the Russian naval iceberg ..

[pv1005]

Quote: aszzz888

According to the minister, the American fleet will begin regular patrols off the Russian coast in the Arctic.

Have you already prepared the pawns?

So far, only chapel.

[Hunter 2]

Here is a freak (with a different letter) ... having one and a half icebreakers and many phobias decided to "fight", well, well!

[Victor_B]

Quote: Hunter 2

having one and a half icebreaker

Threatening five pieces of atomic gash!
True, the power has changed.

[novel66]

Lesha, Merry Christmas !! flaws in education ... so we have such admirals soon ... sad

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

The main advantage of the United States over Russia in the Arctic, Braithwaite called submarines, but at the same time admitted that the United States does not have its own icebreaker fleet, so the Navy will rent icebreakers.

In Russia.
Ours will be happy to help them ensure freedom of navigation even to the point of hiccups, but only where no one goes. So that they don't get confused under the keel.

[tihonmarine]

Seaways in the North are becoming navigable, the US Navy is about to guarantee our partners freedom of navigation

I wonder who forbade "freedom of navigation"? There where the states have poked their nose, there will no longer be any freedom.

[novel66]

the territorial waters of Russia, along which this path passes ... well, yes, there is no freedom ... sorry ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: novel xnumx

the territorial waters of Russia, along which this path passes ... well, yes, there is no freedom ... sorry ..

All civilian ships have the right of free passage, and in the state warriors there is nothing to pry into someone else's garden.

[novel66]

at least a bit of a "berk" but want to ..

[tihonmarine]

Quote: novel xnumx

at least a bit of a "berk" but want to ..

To not want to, you need to knock on the nose, "curious Barbara".

[novel66]

give a bulk !! fuck them, not Europe !!

[Machito]

Civilian ships must coordinate their passage in our territorial waters and pay denyuzhku for passage through the Vilkitsky Strait. Who prevents them from going straight across the pole? White bears? Oh, well, yes, there is ice.

[Fan-fan]

Warships and aircraft may appear no closer than 22 km from our coast without any agreement. This is the law and Russia observes it. And the famous bulk in the Black Sea was exactly where the Americans pushed closer than 22 km to the coast. It was then that the USSR gave them a mouthful, and we who lived in the USSR can be proud of our Motherland.

[Machito]

The NSR passes through our tervods. Mattresses, in order not to violate the border, need icebreakers, and only we have icebreakers.

[TatarinSSSR]

And what kind of hysteria and indignation from the statement of the Americans? Did he say that they would walk in the north on Russian territorial waters? Read the statement carefully, google how many miles from the coast of the tervoda according to international laws and what is the legal economic zone. Then get ready to repel American aggression from the couch.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

And what kind of hysteria and indignation from the statement of the Americans?

Who told you that? Everything is in accordance with the above:

It should be noted that this is not the first time that the United States has declared its "right" to ensure "freedom of navigation" in the region of the Russian Northern Sea Route, making it "international."

Only, here is a number with a statement: “You can trade in oil, but only for American dollars,” - will not “run out”. They were going to provide ... First, grow the "provider" and don't get lost in the darkness of the polar night ...

[TatarinSSSR]

Minusator, and where is the "Russian Northern Sea Route" in Russia's waterways? Where did the American say, literally only, that they would provide security precisely in the Russian waterways? Only literally, without any guesswork and other things! I'm waiting for an answer. And then everyone knows how to minus, it doesn't take a lot of mind!

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: TatarinSSSR

Minusator, and where is the "Russian Northern Sea Route" in Russia's waterways?

Having reached a certain age, it's time to learn how to use the "search engine". It is enough to type: "The Northern Sea Route on the map of Russia" ...

[hydrox]

Please, have pity on the boy: he has not yet learned to read maps and understand the sacred meaning of territorial inviolability, that is, sovereignty - it’s generally hard for liberoids, since they were brought up on American concepts in the context of “city on a hill”, “man of the world” and other chatter.

[TatarinSSSR]

Another chatterbox with pictures from the Internet. I asked a question, the words of the American literally.

[Grits]

Quote: ROSS 42

Having reached a certain age, it's time to learn how to use the "search engine". yes It is enough to type: "The Northern Sea Route on the map of Russia" ...

Some strange track on your map. Especially amazing are the trampling and cutting of circles in the Chukchi Sea and the unexpected "jump" to the north in the Kara Sea. And the line of passage through Matochkin Shar is somehow very touching.

[Rostislav]

So the fact of the matter is that the NSR passes not only through the EEZ of Russia and in ice, but through the territorial waters of Russia.
I am silent about the "free" navigation in the territorial waters of Russia, which the penguins gathered to provide with their submarines.
Art. 234 of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea provides an opportunity for the adoption of additional laws regulating navigation in ice-covered areas within the country's EEZ, so that Russia is fully within its own right, introducing a permitting procedure for the passage of the NSR.
As usual, the actions of the penguins are aimed at weakening and collapse of Russia, and not at protecting economic interests.
In 1991 foreign ships were allowed to pass through the Northern Sea Route. However, the first two foreign ships sailed there only in 2009. In 2011, there were 34 of them, in 2012 - 46. And in 2015, only 18.
For comparison, 2011 thousand ships proceeded through the Suez Canal in 18! Well, on August 6, 2015, the second Suez Canal was opened, laid parallel to the old one. As a result, the capacity of the Suez Canal has increased, and the transit time has decreased.
So in the next decade, the NSR will not be able to make any competition for the Suez.
Neither the US nor the EU will receive any economic dividends in the event of the internationalization of the NSR. The US goal - to create a military threat to Russia from the North - is a minimum program. And the maximum program is the capture of Siberia. The Russian North, where 1% of the Russian population lives, provides 20% of Russian exports!
The situation is described very well here https://portnews.ru/digest/print/18074/?backurl=/digest/

[YOUR]

I also don't quite understand how they will patrol. If in regions of Norway where there is no ice but the same Arctic coast, then it is quite possible. By the way, nothing is said about the NSR.
And so let them go there. Moreover, they do not have ice-class warships

[Grits]

Quote: YOUR

And so let them go there. Moreover, they do not have ice-class warships

Again, everyone forgets about the submarines. Which under the ice can dive into our ter. waters. And no one can fix obstacles to them. I just don't have enough strength. Because we will not be able to attach our own submarines to each of their nuclear submarines.
Yes, and more. If it is necessary to destroy an enemy nuclear submarine under the ice, what shall we do? Torpedo firing by us under the ice has not yet been worked out. Unlike the same penguins. We are such an Arctic power.

[YOUR]

How torpedo firing under ice is not practiced, but how the ice is pierced on yours before the missiles start

[Grits]

Quote: YOUR

How torpedo shooting under ice is not practiced

Usually. It is not fulfilled, and that's it.

[Grits]

Quote: YOUR

and how do you think the ice is broken before the missiles start

There is a hole for launching rockets. Nobody is going to break the ice. Openings for launching rockets are not necessarily water without ice. And just the absence of multi-year pack ice. Young thin ice or sludge is fine for a start

[YOUR]

And how are they looking for wormwood? Divers let out?
You would have read the reports of our submariners as they surfaced at the North Pole.

[Grits]

Quote: YOUR

And how are they looking for wormwood? Divers let out?
Would you read the reports of our submariners how they surfaced at the North Pole

I went out to test the nuclear submarine for several years in the 90s. Next to my console was the console of the system that drew ice over my head.

[TatarinSSSR]

Literally in the American's statement about the fact that it is in the Russian waterways that they will conduct trials without our permission? Without any guesses, exactly where did he say it?

[Rusticolus]

google how many miles from the coast of the tervoda according to international laws and what is the legal economic zone.

When it was the Americans who worried about international laws. Or is it only they can do that

[TatarinSSSR]

Do not sidetrack. They threw minuses, so please show me why! Cite literally in the words of the American about what he said there about the escorting of ships through Russian therweds without her permission !?

[Rusticolus]

Mutually. Translate literally where I said something about ter. water and about Russia in general. And then, I look at the minuses thrown.

[d4rkmesa]

You wiggle your buttocks. It is about the United States exercising its right of "peaceful" passage anywhere. For example, in the Vilkitsky Strait. It doesn't matter if it's internal or territorial waters. "Kuzya" also passes through the English Channel when necessary. The logic is about the same.

[fruc]

The sea routes in the North are becoming navigable, the US Navy is going to guarantee our partners the freedom of navigation.

Dreamers ... Do they provide freedom of navigation for everyone?

[sabakina]

Quote: frruc

Dreamers ... Do they provide freedom of navigation for everyone?

Freedom of navigation is like "freedom for parrots." No one is scared, but it annoys everyone. And then, who told them that the Arctic Ocean will be navigable tomorrow, like the South China Sea?

[novel66]

the ice is melting. when it will be possible to walk past the tervod, all porters will rush ...

[sabakina]

Roma. blush! it melts, then it melts, but for some reason the states have been experiencing the weather with snowstorms and hurricanes lately ...

[bar]

the United States does not have its own icebreaker fleet, so the Navy will lease icebreakers.

Will they rent from Rosatomflot?

[novel66]

aha !! We are urgently building an icebreaker "Susanin" !!!

[sabakina]

Quote: novel xnumx

aha !! We are urgently building an icebreaker "Susanin" !!!

Exactly! He will show them Bui!

[Tusv]

Quote: bar

Will they rent from Rosatomflot?

Latvia will save everyone. They have "Varma" And so there is no one else

[Beby]

The picture is good, .. but if I see correctly, it is 5-6 years old.

[Kerensky]

the United States does not have its own icebreaker fleet, so the Navy will lease icebreakers.

In! Immediately announce the imposition of sanctions against companies that have leased icebreakers to the US Navy. And all the companies associated with them.
Oh! This is not our method!

[Tusv]

Quote: Kerensky

Immediately announce the imposition of sanctions against companies

Yeah. they stand in line there, let them steer in the NSR, and they will spit on their banks

[hydrox]

You can, after all, look at this case differently.
ALL airlines that have laid their routes through Siberia annually pay us $ 30 million (but, apparently, we will soon be able to raise the tariff, since the tariffs for transportation have become higher, but the fuel and time savings have also increased). By the way, these funds are paid to Aeroflot for providing discounts to students, pensions and vacationers of the Far East for flights to the European part of Russia.
You can give civilian ships a pilot and an icebreaker, of course, for an additional fee, and prohibit military boxes, considering it as a military provocation - after all, we do not let foreign military aircraft through Siberia through Siberia and do not fly over the USA ourselves ... what to show to anyone our infrastructure, including military

[Ross xnumx]

According to the minister, the American fleet will begin regular patrols off the Russian coast in the Arctic.

Check this out! They are not afraid to be covered with ice ... They came and laid out "I will present" ... I wonder what makes such idiots think that Russia will take it under its cap and wipe it out? Maybe our nuclear submarines will start regular patrols in the Gulf of Mexico?

[Lex_is]

First, those nuclear submarines need to be built, but our GPV is overwhelmed, under the joyful shouts of local Urya patriots that everything is fine, and there is no need to strain with the construction of the fleet.

I wonder what makes such idiots think that Russia will take it under its hood and wipe it out?

Knowledge of the state of the Russian fleet? Not?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Lex_is

Knowledge of the state of the Russian fleet? Not?

Rather, ignorance of the capabilities of the Russian fleet and the coastal structures of the Arctic ...

[Lex_is]

They know them much better than you.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Lex_is

They know them much better than you.

It seems to me that ignoring various statements by naval ministers, including the American one, the highest command personnel of the RF Armed Forces know much better the capabilities of the Russian Armed Forces and the Russian Navy ...
This is so that you do not puff up here, in assessing my knowledge, but answer in essence of the article ...

[rocket757]

Quote: Lex_is

They know them much better than you.

This is probably why they do not "fly" where they were not called ... they blather from afar and that's it.

[fruc]

The Russian fleet, of course, is still weak. But it is possible to ensure the safety of sea borders (I am not talking about long-range use).

[fruc]

Are you sure that they are not there?

[hydrox]

It is not obvious, but in the spring of the year before last, one of their nuclear submarines stuck out for a long, long time, and who of ours just did not photograph it!

[hydrox]

The liberoids were embittered that their gurus were shitty and minus!
https://ria.ru/20200310/1568406341.html
At the same time, it didn’t cost anything to drown it: it was enough to plant a couple of RPG grenades in the base of the cabin (it’s even better to scrape with a Cornet!) And see how the minke whales will winter.
And how is this situation different from the future ??

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

I remember a month ago they "ensured" the freedom of navigation in the Peter the Great Gulf and as soon as they were threatened they quickly dumped

[Esaul]

And we need to start patrolling the Chesapeake Bay, they say there is no freedom of navigation at all.

[Soko]

Quote: Esaul

And we need to start patrolling the Chesapeake Bay, they say there is no freedom of navigation at all

We must grow the Fleet for now. And we'll see in the future. If such passions in the Capitol repeat and grow, then it may even reach international patrols.

[tralflot1832]

Due to the fact that all the laws are not exceptional. (Svalbard, they already rented last fall and he passed in compliance with all our rules from Norway to Alaska and back, the reaction of our Ministry of Defense is zero) Drive directly to the Arctic AUG headed by "Zhorik Ford" , the ice will disperse on its own and when it will come together. After yesterday, the impossible may be. Maybe we will hear pleas for help, the AUG is wiped out in the ice, the ice breaks the sides of the AUG, but for some reason all the icebreakers will stand up for painting the superstructures. Help will move from Wrangel, The thousandth detachment of polar bears! Why not, the capitol was taken for the last time in 1813, and in 2021 it happened. The impossible may become possible!

[Boris55]

US Navy intends to ensure "freedom of navigation" in the Arctic

Will they cancel the winter?
I would like to know how many icebreakers they have, what would make such statements?

[Rusticolus]

These can both "cancel" the winter and impose sanctions on Santa Claus. They're exceptional ... dolbopolovo actoviki.

[comradChe]

Well, they will do EVERYTHING and NOBODY will interfere with them. Unless they express "concern", and even then slightly. They will agree, as it is written in the constitution and approved by us. Protect emotions for good.

[zwlad]

"Do you have a pistol (icebreakers)?" (from)
Zadornov called them correctly - well, stupid!

[K298rtm]

They may be stupid.
Only the United States has practically all multipurpose submarines that can go under the ice in the Arctic, while we have no one. So it is not necessary to defend your interests with icebreakers alone.

[silver_roman]

Let the icebergs and ice floes attack. Only they interfere with free shipping in the Arctic.

[Ros 56]

Where are you striped, with the mentality of shepherds. You can't give people a mind at home, and even in the Arctic you really can't do a damn thing.

[Fedorovich]

Only icebreakers can provide freedom of navigation in the Arctic. They do not have icebreakers and will not have them for a long time ... If they do, otherwise with such a leapfrog it is still a question of whether there will be states.

[APASUS]

How will they (the Americans) ensure freedom of navigation by submarines? This is the know-how of a submarine icebreaker

[2 Level Advisor]

As I understand it, it interferes with shipping in the Arctic, ice in the first place .. I wonder how they will fight the ice with the help of nuclear submarines?

[cniza]

It should be noted that this is not the first time that the United States has declared its "right" to ensure "freedom of navigation" in the region of the Russian Northern Sea Route, making it "international."

You can say that, but he imagines how to do it ...

[rocket757]

Welcome
The minke whales are able to chat, threaten ... but, not everyone pays attention to this, because they have a clear idea of ​​what the minke whales can do, and to what extent their intestines are thin.

[cniza]

Good time!

Each new Secretary of the US Navy, and as I understand it will soon be a new one, Biden was approved, will threaten us with a fist ...

[rocket757]

So you need to understand that the fists of the minke whales are not weak .... i.e. appropriate countermeasures to be identified and implemented in advance.
Let's see what the minke whales do in the future.

[cniza]

Only in northern affairs they do not have strong fists, and they will not be able to create soon ...

[rocket757]

Their strength is more varied than military affairs. They will shit wherever possible ...
They have financial instruments and, for now, hold on to them and use them wherever they need them.
They spent a long time building up the system of dependence of everyone and everything, on their greens. While they can, they can ...
In general, we will see.

[cniza]

Yes, they will shit, or rather, they have already used everything they can against us, there are no more tools, and they do not pull in the north ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

they have already used everything they can against us, there are no more tools, and they do not pull in the north ...

We will not be in advance in the pose "we do not care!"
New administration, new ADVISORS! Moreover, as I read, these are advisors involved !!! they do not directly obey politicians ... and the team there is experienced, marked with "ardent love" for us! They can speak, recommend not what politicians want to hear, but exactly what they have outlined, planned, etc.
The only question is, who will the politicians at the top listen to? advisors, professionals or just yourself, loved ones.
Trump's position "himself with a mustache" and I only listen to my left heel, let me down, let me down ...
In general, you have to look! It won't take much time to understand how and with whom the top of the dem party, their president, will be friends.

[cniza]

No, it becomes unnecessary in a pose and sanctions harm us, I said that we would not bow to them, under no circumstances ...

[rocket757]

There is such an opinion and we hope for this.
Not even because ours are so beautiful and beautiful, but because it will only get worse.
There is no desire on the other side that everyone would feel good ... there is only concern for themselves, moreover, at the expense of others.

[cniza]

Their fate, and even more so interests and opinions are not interested ...

[rocket757]

They know how to play and impose only their own rules on everyone ...

[Scharnhorst]

Alternatively, the gifted last president of the USSR and the head of its Foreign Ministry from Georgia put their hands on soybeans to completely confuse the status of the Bering Strait. My suggestions will fit in the comments. Keep the state borders in the strait in their present form. The strait between the islands of Ratmanov and Kruzenshtern is closed for both international shipping and border states. Russia uses the passage and regulates international shipping in the strait between Chukotka and Ratmanov Island, the United States in the strait between Alaska and Kruzenshtern Island. For reference: the shortest distance from Chukotka to about. Ratmanov is only 36,5 kilometers, depths up to 50 meters. The FSB border service is able to ensure the inviolability of the maritime border in this area. The rest of the service within the international waters of the Arctic at existing or established rates.

[rocket757]

It is possible to discuss .... it only makes sense, yet, no. Too many are not clear. How they will try to do it, by what means, by what means .... a lot of chatter and even more fog.
Then, when / if they are determined and will be able to show / prove that this is not idle chatter.
In short, we are working according to the PLAN.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

In short, we are working according to the PLAN.

The most correct approach, and let them strain ...

[rocket757]

Interesno, who doesn't like it, that we have no bad movement?
Who is it "puffing up" when everything goes according to plan?
some shots come here .... they shit on small things.

[cniza]

Throughout our history, many people don't like it when everything goes according to plan, especially in the west ...

[rocket757]

Here we also have such ... not many, but terribly "smelly and squeaky" all these brothers.

[cniza]

So the black sheep is always present in any society, people, the main thing is not to let them reach the levers ...

[rocket757]

For the time being, they know how to disguise themselves .... they can chat "sweetly" and pleasantly, for the ears of the layman ... about the pillars and who will "hang" there, they are silent, at first. All the bad things come to light very later.

[cniza]

Yes, you need to understand and see their essence in time, bringing them to clean water, which they fear most ...

[rocket757]

Now is not the time, the situation, so that they were especially afraid of something, hiding !!!
There is not much to choose from for the layman, because no matter how here or there, an ordinary person, a hard worker, is not very good !!! Capitalism CIRCLE! National or international, the difference is not great ...
That's when the USSR was, they had to twirl around, make no small concessions in order to look more attractive to working people, ordinary people.
That is why there is confusion, vacillation, in many places where some peoples are held back only by extreme manifestations of foreign stupidity, which are disgusting to a significant part of these peoples.

[cniza]

Yes, they work only for the sake of and for money, so they don't care deeply about what will happen next ...

[rocket757]

For what would they not work, over the years they have gotten the hang of doing it in a variety of ways, and even camouflaging everything for different good things!
Not everyone believes in their good intentions, but they buy / acquire the loyalty of an ordinary person in many ways ... experienced, cunning, unprincipled, DANGEROUS!

[Vadim Ananyin]

I wonder how they will go near the coastline of the Russian Federation, ice melting is coming from the south, if only in violation. If they have problems to the north, they do not have the rest of the icebreakers of this class, they will do it. Their fleets are located further south in latitude and their exit will be immediately noted, it will be like with the Germans in the winter of 41-42, they will freeze to hell.

[Podvodnik]

... intend to ensure freedom of navigation and navigation in the Arctic.

Flag in hand and a drum on the neck. If they can poke their heads, then only in the summer. Normal ships / vessels have nothing to do there. They will freeze stupidly. For example, seawater may be below zero. Salinity after all. All outboard fittings will fail. Fresh water in heat exchange systems and others. It will just freeze. There will be nothing to cool the engines. And the personnel will freeze. Here you need ships / vessels of a special class or after modifications. I would have looked at flights from amerovsky aircraft carriers in such conditions. Their ships are not technically designed for these latitudes, and their operation will be impossible. Icebreakers won't help. SJC fairings are cured from ice floes. ETC.
In short, you are welcome!

[Cook]

How about patrolling submarines off the coast of Russia along the NSR is not very clear. The American official is apparently not aware that the average depths of the Chukchi, East Siberian, Laptev, and Kara seas are on average 50-100 meters. Or will they patrol from under the ice? I ought to give him a globe.

[Podvodnik]

apparently not aware that the average depths of the Chukotka

Indeed, it is rather small. It is not so easy to drive nuclear submarines from the north to the Pacific Fleet. "On the belly" sometimes you have to crawl. Patrolling there is generally impossible. Boatswain on rubles "sweat" and warheads-7 from echo-gauges and so on. does not take his eyes off. Intensely.

[Yaro Polk]

It is necessary to warn the Amerzians that after World War II there are many mines left from the Nazis)

[Voltsky]

It should be noted that this is not the first time that the United States has declared its "right" to ensure "freedom of navigation" in the region of the Russian Northern Sea Route, making it "international."

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation allowed warning bombing along the course of the ship's movement in case of disturbance.

what is it ...

[Lukafil-by]

America is stepping on Russia's tail and taking it by the throat, but we were told that when we renounce socialism, everyone will immediately fall in love with us, and they just have a shame !!!

[Whirlwind]

Rented submarines icebreakers ..! Baydan is buried all over his head.

[Vasyan1971]

The US Navy intends to ensure freedom of navigation and navigation in the Arctic.

And her (freedom) Someone interferes?
Or is it all about the "offensive of Moscow in the Far North" and "Chinese claims"?

[agond]

Quote: Vasyan1971

The US Navy intends to ensure freedom of navigation and navigation in the Arctic.

This means that theirs warships will follow the trail of our icebreakers or still through open water?

[Barmal]

It should be noted that this is not the first time that the United States has declared its "right" to ensure "freedom of navigation" in the region of the Russian Northern Sea Route, making it "international."

This means there will be an open confrontation. And whoever can stand it will control the Arctic off the coast of Russia.

[Charik]

Is there an icebreaker Ivan Susanin? rent amer

[Kapkan]

I do not know what they were going to provide there, but WE HERE everything is in order.

[alexey alexeyev_2]

I made a laugh. Rent icebreakers. Who has？ Russia chtol？

[Suslin]

It's time for us to think about sanctions against companies that have provided or are going to lease icebreakers to the US Navy. Nothing personal just business!

[Chever]

Didn't the pretentious music play after the words of this minister?

[Alexfu]

Our icebreakers will be given the work of American ships from the ice captivity. Let them freeze, then they will come in handy for scrap.

[Alexander Karelsky]

The US has little freedom to navigate the Suez Canal, Panama, Bosphorus, English Channel, Hormuz ...? It would be better to get rid of the Somali pirates.

[Evil Booth]

flight range f18 at an altitude of 10 km 760 km if lower then the range will be halved. the radar of the blind missile is weak .. moment 31 this knocks down 100 km before launch on its own. with f35, the essence is the same ... it is seen at the nth altitude for hundreds and hundreds of kilometers. but he still cannot apply something. as can the eot already in the zone of knocking down BEFORE dropping from f35. and after all, the air force)) as well as rockets for a hundred km with IR sights with airborne OLS for a hundred km ... okay at 90). and then ... the aug itself can be seen, for example, by the plane's trajectory. very much. as well as in electronic warfare receivers, an Aegis signal from a ship with more than half a thousand km is caught. the ship itself, a simple plane of the su34 type, is well seen from 400-600 km. will they be intercepted there? Well, theoretically, yes, but in practice it is an arc with a length of 2000 km and f35 does not carry a wide-angle radar with a range of 400 km and V-V missiles at least 200. and not 2 but 12.

[Ax Matt]

There should also be a second wheelhouse ... somewhere nearby. She was in a hurry to help. But this is from the opera "when something went wrong"

[Podvodnik]

freedom of navigation "in the area of ​​the Russian Northern Sea Route

Looked at the weather. It's about -25 Celsius now. Provide freedom as much as you like. Chelyuskin's memory haunted? Who will take your frozen corpses off the ice? If only polar bears.

[Sasha from Uralmash]

And what's the problem! YES LET'S swim! They develop our infrastructure, there is no better advertisement! And we will provide them with safety if nothing!

[Sasha from Uralmash]

Tube15, sight120, - everything is as it should be! The AS-12 will have to save the rescuers! And before POSEIDON, in general, everyone is equal!

[Kent0001]

And what will we do when they go along the NSR? Zakharova and Lavrov express concern? Or will we just rub ourselves again? As for a plane shot down by the Turks, IL, podtstavny Jews, MI-24 in Armenia ... something turns out a lot ... don't you think?

[wandall]

I hope they already bought Papanin's memoirs? They'll need them.

[Growlers]

"Freedom of navigation" in the American way is when American ships and ships go everywhere, regardless of the borders of some countries ... There is only one cure for such freedom - drown them all ...

[Misha_an26]

that the United States does not have its own icebreaker fleet, so the Navy will rent icebreakers. Who?

[Valery Ivanov_3]

under the communists, the Americans had no idea about this. We are weak under the elceputs, so we rock the boat.