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Royal Army Veterinary Corps of Great Britain

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Royal Army Veterinary Corps of Great Britain

Until the end of the XNUMXth century, there was no veterinary service in the British army at all.


Blacksmiths employed by the British government were in charge of shoeing the army horses and providing them with medicines and general care.

However, the constant heavy loss of horses during military campaigns in the late 1796th century led to the decision in XNUMX that veterinary surgeons for the army should be recruited from the newly formed London Veterinary College.

John Shipp was the first veterinary surgeon in the British Army.


The corps emblem depicts Chiron - a centaur from Greek mythology in a wreath with a crown at the top. The centaur (man with the body of a horse) symbolizes the role of the corps in providing the army with horses under the leadership of a man.

For the first 82 years of its existence, the veterinary service in the army was organized exclusively on a regimental basis. Initially, veterinary surgeons were recruited directly into individual cavalry regiments and were part of them. Instead of forming your own department or corps.

There was no provision for the care of sick or lame horses when the troops were on the march. And sick animals were either thrown or killed.

Crimean War


By the mid-1850s, there were sixty-four veterinarians in the British army, forty-three of whom went with their units to the Crimea war.

Like the medical care of the soldiers, the veterinary care of horses during the Crimean War was imperfect. Lack of coordination between departments and adequate equipment seriously hampered the work of veterinarians.

Many horses died as a result of poor maintenance during shipping by sea.

The harsh winters of 1854 and 1855 killed many of the horses. Another reason for this was also the fact that veterinary equipment and medicines did not meet the requirements at that time (even by the standards of that time).

Late XNUMXth century


Under the leadership of Chief Veterinarian James Collins, the regimental veterinary recruitment system was finally abolished between 1876 and 1883.

In 1880, the Army Veterinary School was formed at Camp Aldershot, where military officers were trained in caring for army animals and providing first aid.

Anglo-Boer War 1899-1902


The huge animal losses during the Boer War revealed problems that veterinarians already knew about.

Despite the advice of veterinarians, in 1898 the supply department for treating sick and wounded animals was removed from the Army Remount Service, which was responsible for supplying the army with horses and mules. And the British army left for South Africa without any effective veterinary equipment.

Contrary to the recommendations of specialists, supply depots and veterinary hospitals were merged. This inevitably led to the rapid spread of diseases such as glanders, epizootic lymphangitis and scabies. This seriously undermined the operational effectiveness of the army.

Non-combat losses amounted to 326 horses and 000 mules. And only a small number of animals were lost as a result of enemy actions.

Formation of the Army Veterinary Corps


After the mistakes made during the Boer War, enormous pressure was exerted on the reform of the army veterinary service. From all quarters, including the Royal College of Veterinary Surgeons, as well as politicians and the general public.

The veterinary department of the army consisted only of officers.

In 1903, the Army Veterinary Corps (AVC) was created by royal decree. There were sergeants and soldiers who were involved in performing veterinary duties.

In 1906 he merged with the Army Veterinary Department.

World War I


By the time the First World War broke out, there were 364 officers in the Army Veterinary Corps. And by the end of the war - already 1 people.

In addition to officers, the number of other ranks increased from 934 to 41 people.

Mobile veterinary departments were created to evacuate sick and wounded animals, where they could be treated.

A typical veterinary hospital in France could accommodate 2 animals.

Most of the animals suffered from combat wounds, weakness, exhaustion, scabies and, for the first time, from gas attacks.

The level of veterinary action was high.

Two and a half million horses have been hospitalized in France. Of these, 80% returned to service after treatment. The rest were sold locally or slaughtered for human consumption.

Egypt also had separate camel hospitals run by officers from the Army Veterinary Corps.


In recognition of the work of military veterinarians, on November 27, 1918, King George V conferred the Royal Army Veterinary Corps (RAVC) title on the corps.

“The Corps, with its initiative and scientific methods, has raised the military veterinary service to a higher level.

The high standard he maintains at home and in all military theaters has resulted in fewer animal losses, increased horse mobility and less animal suffering. ”

The Second World War


After World War I, as mechanization developed, the size of the Royal Army Veterinary Corps declined.

In 1938, the Army Veterinary School at Aldershot closed.

At the outbreak of World War II, the corps numbered 85 officers (59 of whom were in India) and 105 soldiers.

During the war, the staff was increased to 519 officers and 3 soldiers and sergeants.

Even with the increase in mechanization during World War II, horses and mules were still essential. Especially in Palestine and during the Italian campaign, where the terrain was difficult for vehicles.


In 1942, the number of animals in the army was 6 horses, 500 mules and 10 camels.

The Royal Army Veterinary Corps also had missions in Greece, Eritrea and Syria. In addition to transporting packs, he was in charge of preventive, antiepizootic and medical and evacuation services for horse personnel, as well as veterinary and sanitary supervision over the good quality of meat and other animal products entering the troops.

In addition to mules brought in from North Africa and the Middle East, nearly 11 mules were purchased in Sicily and southern Italy. Mule losses in the battles for Italy were higher than expected. At the same time, losses from infections and infectious diseases were low.

In Burma, in addition to horses and mules, General Wingate also used oxen, which were attracted not only as beasts of burden, but also as

"Meat on the hooves."

Elephants were also used there as transport. Due to the nature of the campaign, the animals seriously injured in Burma could not receive qualified veterinary care. Therefore, many of them were killed.

In 1942, the Royal Army Veterinary Corps became responsible for purchasing dogs for military service. A military dog ​​breeding school was established.

In 1943, Great Britain instituted a special award for animals - the Dicken Medal.

Note. The Dickin Medal or the Mary Deakin Medal is Britain's highest military award for animals, established in 1943 by the founder of the animal welfare organization Maria Deakin. The medal is made of bronze and depicts a laurel wreath with the words “For Courage” and “We Serve Too”. The order ribbon consists of three vertical stripes - green, dark brown and pale blue. The award is presented by the Mayor of London. It is awarded to animals that have shown outstanding courage and dedication to duty while serving in any military or civilian rescue service. This medal is often referred to as the Victoria Cross for animals.

The post-war period


As of September 2017, this medal has been awarded 68 times. The latter was awarded posthumously to the Belgian Shepherd Dog Diesel, who died while on duty during a special operation to find and eliminate Islamic terrorists who staged the terrorist attacks in Paris on November 13, 2015.

After World War II, the Royal Army Veterinary Corps operated in many countries: Germany, Austria, Greece, Burma and Malaysia. Provided there veterinary services for cattle and small ruminants of food herds, military dogs and animals of subsidiary farms. And also animals abandoned by the population evacuated from the areas of hostilities.

In 1946, the Royal Army Veterinary Corps moved to Melton Mowbray, where it is currently based.

The corps staff did not drop to the pre-war level. The Second World War highlighted the role of dogs. In the years since that war, dogs have become the main animal involved in combat.

The Royal Army Veterinary Corps maintains permanent canine departments in Northern Ireland, England, Germany and Cyprus.

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  1. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 8 January 2021 05: 59
    +1
    Until the end of the XNUMXth century, the British army did not have a veterinary service at all
    drawing conclusions from the picture I looked at, I realized that the Naglichians, those still ... aristocrats ... traded galley slaves, they seemed to have horses ... ...
    1. Machito
      Machito 8 January 2021 06: 36
      0
      And how is the Skripals cat doing there? And the Skripals themselves disappeared somewhere. It looks like the English veterinarians still poisoned them with the Novice.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 8 January 2021 06: 54
        +3
        Quote: Bearded
        And how is the Skripals cat doing there?

        It looks like a shitty thing, because judging by the article, at first the British were still horsemen, but now they are dog lovers! In short, they need to modify the emblem, not a centaur is needed there, but a man with a horse's head! wassat
  2. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 8 January 2021 06: 24
    +5
    Thank you, Sergey!
    Uncharacteristic topic for you.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 8 January 2021 06: 40
      +5
      I join Anton! I liked the article, although somehow it was cut short. I wonder what British military veterinarians are doing today?
      Whoever watches the beloved cat of the Queen of Britain or gives enemas to the mascot of the 3rd Scottish Grenadier Regiment, they have toli ko-zel, toli rabbit on their staff.
      Good day everyone, with respect Vlad!
      Ko-zel is an animal, a husband is a goat, and not what you thought is "artificial intelligence IN"! So stop deleting it from the text !!!
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 8 January 2021 06: 44
        +3
        Who is watching the beloved cat of the Queen of Britain
        Vlad, I will disappoint you, Elizabeth II has a dog. tongue
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 8 January 2021 07: 02
          +2
          Anton, hello! Well .... it happens. winkThis is me about ... the queen.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 8 January 2021 07: 05
            +4
            I will teach you all to love dogs! am laughing
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 8 January 2021 07: 09
              +4
              That's what I love. wink East European Shepherd. In my opinion, the most beautiful dog.

              But cats? It's forever! Sorry!
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 8 January 2021 07: 11
                +4
                Okay, Sokolov - "test". The rest - for retake!
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 8 January 2021 07: 23
                  +1
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  retake

                  It's just, my friend, there was a case. About two years ago, New Year's holidays, but I'm working. And now ... I'm going to work ON FOOT! Benefit is close, km 3, but not the point. I walk past the fence of the plant * Inteko *, clock time seven. Dark, gloomy / and at heart too /, lonely. In a word, classic! * Night, street, lantern .... *. And then a pack of ... dogs emerges from under the fence! Here I am a little .. .. in a word, it almost became bad. But everything ended fine, this herd / ten souls / looked at me, and I at them, and ran somewhere on their dog business. There is no such thing with cats, we are peaceful creatures. laughing
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 8 January 2021 07: 29
                    +7
                    Sergey, any stray dog ​​is the result of human bestiality.
                    1. Phil77
                      Phil77 8 January 2021 07: 34
                      +2
                      Quote: 3x3zsave
                      human bestiality

                      I disagree with this. These * lads * were exactly the courtyard creatures. But it was scary, it’s a fact! The feeling was like meeting a bunch of * stoned * teenagers. After all, you can't wave it off, right.
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 8 January 2021 07: 42
                        +3
                        it is the yard creatures
                        In a metropolis? Where from? I have not seen dogs born on the street in St. Petersburg for 20 years.
                      2. Phil77
                        Phil77 8 January 2021 07: 45
                        +3
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        born on the street.

                        On the outskirts? Anton, Biryulevo is far from * a golden mile *. We have everything and everything here.
                      3. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 8 January 2021 07: 53
                        +2
                        Well, you know, I don't live on Nevsky either! In the suburbs I saw packs of dogs more than once, however, all the creatures had "owners".
          2. Phil77
            Phil77 8 January 2021 09: 59
            +1
            Quote: Phil77
            Sorry

            Hey, face, who, for some unknown reason, ranked himself as a humanoid / is the word familiar? /. What did the shepherd dog stop you from?
        2. bubalik
          8 January 2021 07: 52
          +7
          I will teach you all dogs to love

          ,,, dogs you say belay
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 8 January 2021 07: 56
            +2
            "The dog is biting,
            Only from the life of a dog "(C)
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 8 January 2021 08: 07
              +2
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              "The dog is biting,
              Only from the life of a dog "(C)

              And we - * cats *, are always full of kindness! From a cat's life?
              laughing
        3. Gato
          Gato 10 January 2021 22: 44
          +1
          I will teach you all to love dogs!

          Thank you, we ourselves know the recipes for their preparation laughing
  3. Phil77
    Phil77 8 January 2021 06: 58
    +2
    Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
    somehow cut short

    To be continued? wink
  4. Phil77
    Phil77 8 January 2021 07: 00
    +1
    Hello Vlad! And the cat is always a charming and beloved creature!
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 8 January 2021 07: 56
      +1
      Quote: Phil77
      Hello Vlad! And the cat is always a charming and beloved creature!

      Definitely Sergey!
      In my understanding, a dog should be a dog! The vocation of which is to carry out service from guard-sentry to hunting. I don't recognize indoor lapdogs.
      A cat, he is a cat even in Africa! More a companion of civilization, not its servant.
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 8 January 2021 07: 58
        +1
        Quote: Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Quote: Phil77
        Hello Vlad! And the cat is always a charming and beloved creature!

        Definitely Sergey!
        In my understanding, a dog should be a dog! The vocation of which is to carry out service from guard-sentry to hunting. I don't recognize indoor lapdogs.
        A cat, he is a cat even in Africa! More a companion of civilization, not its servant.

        Plusy !!!!
      2. bubalik
        8 January 2021 08: 36
        +5
        hiVladislav. By the way, in Melton Mowbray, where the headquarters of the corps is located, there is a Whiskas factory. winked
        1. Pane Kohanku
          Pane Kohanku 12 January 2021 10: 50
          +1
          Sergey, I apologize for the untimely appearance on the forum. Thank you very much! Changing topics according to your interests is generally great! drinks
          In Burma, in addition to horses and mules, General Wingate also used oxen, which were not only used as beasts of burden.

          Mozheiko wrote quite critically about him. That, they say, his chindits did not play a special role, but they took away resources.
  5. bubalik
    8 January 2021 09: 07
    +8
    I wonder what British military veterinarians are doing today?

    ,,, well, they look after the "Detachment of His Majesty the Royal Mounted Artillery", they train dogs for the service and are engaged in various army mascots, from goats to antelopes.
  6. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 9 January 2021 01: 21
    +3
    Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
    I wonder what British military veterinarians are doing today?

    there are army horses for parades, there are service dogs, there are regions where there are diseases common to humans and animals, there are veterinary specialists as laboratory doctors ...
  • bubalik
    8 January 2021 06: 57
    +6
    3xЗzsave

    Welcome hi ... As never before I felt the expression "actor of the same role". bully
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 8 January 2021 07: 09
      +4
      In fact, such unexpected turns are very interesting. Look, like Ryzhov: he wrote and wrote about the history of the Balkans and bam! - an article about the fulfillment of desires.
    2. Phil77
      Phil77 8 January 2021 08: 03
      +1
      Quote: bubalik
      actor of one role ,,.
      Reply

      Sergey! Thanks already for the fact that we * grappled *! * Cats * and * Dogs *! Just kidding, just kidding, just kidding! laughing
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 8 January 2021 08: 11
        +5
        And I think, just in the subject of the material. Anything more authentic than those cases when, under the article about revolvers, they start to measure up with "cats". laughing
        1. bubalik
          8 January 2021 11: 20
          +4
          An Army Veterinary School was formed at Camp Aldershot in 1880

          ,,, Russia was ahead in this regard.
          St. Petersburg State Academy of Veterinary Medicine.
          The Veterinary Academy dates back to the veterinary department established in 1808 within the Imperial Medical-Surgical Academy. In 1873, the veterinary department was reorganized into an institute at the same academy

      2. bubalik
        8 January 2021 08: 17
        +6
        ,,, The screams continue. These are not people, people cannot scream so terribly.
        Kat says:
        - Wounded horses.
        I have never heard a horse scream, and I somehow can't believe it. It is the long-suffering world itself groans, in these groans all the torments of living flesh, burning, terrifying pain are heard. We turned pale. Detering stands up to its full height:
        - Fiends, flayers! Shoot them!

        ,,, We get up and go to look for a place where all this is happening. If we see horses, it will not be so unbearable for us to hear their screams. Mayer has binoculars with him. We vaguely see a dark ball - a group of orderlies with a stretcher and some other large black moving clods. These are wounded horses. But not all. Some run even farther in front, fall to the ground and gallop again. One has a torn belly, from which intestines hang in a long tourniquet. The horse gets entangled in them and falls, but gets back to his feet.

        ,,,
        We've all seen the views. But here we are thrown into a cold sweat. I want to get up and run without looking back, no matter where, so long as not to hear more of this scream. But these are only horses, these are not people.

        The figures of people with stretchers are again separated from the dark ball. Then several single shots are fired. Black lumps twitch and flatten. At last! But it's not over yet. People cannot get close to those wounded animals that run in fear across the meadow, putting all their pain into a cry escaping from their wide open mouth. One of the figures drops to one knee ... Shot. The horse has fallen, and here is another. The latter rested its front feet on the ground and spins like a merry-go-round. Squatting on her croup and holding her head high, she walks in a circle, leaning on her front legs - she probably has a fractured back. The soldier runs to the horse and finishes it off with a shot. Slowly, obediently, she sinks to the ground.

        Remarque Erich Maria. Quiet on the Western Front.
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 8 January 2021 08: 20
          +2
          Quote: bubalik
          Remarque Erich Maria.

          By the way, yes! I must re-read! But first, your Swede! Already getting close, number * two * on the list. hi
  • Phil77
    Phil77 8 January 2021 06: 56
    +1
    Sergey, hello! Here's one word ... unexpected! But ... great! The article turned out, it turned out! All the best, AUTHOR! Thank you!
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 8 January 2021 09: 15
      0
      Quote: Phil77
      Thank you

      Who you are? Mysterious stranger? Is that why you put * minus *? For praising the author? What is the crime here, right? You feel fierce hatred for me? Well, understandable ... but! Just in the eyes / conditionally! / You Can you express it? Or? Well, I'm starting to doubt your belonging to the male sex. Stupid ** minus **? You yourself are not ashamed, eh? Although what I mean.
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 8 January 2021 09: 27
        -2
        Quote: Phil77
        ? Although what I mean.

        Man? Big doubts about this! With what do you disagree?
      2. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 8 January 2021 09: 44
        +5
        A year and a half ago, a couple of minusers "hunted" for one of our comrades. They wandered through all the branches and shit in silence. Our friend turned to the administration, because such activity is contrary to the rules of the site. As a result, both tihushniki ratings were reset to zero and temporarily banned.
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 8 January 2021 10: 05
          +1
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          a couple of minusers. Roamed all over

          Anton! I understand - * in the eyes *! Conditionally. But so? The main thing is why?
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 8 January 2021 10: 14
            +6
            There is a joke about a New Year's party in a kindergarten. "And I'll dress up with a piece of shit and ruin the whole holiday for you!" So it is here.
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 8 January 2021 10: 29
              +3
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              poop

              Damn !!! Well, after all, decent people have gathered, eh? Vera will come soon. Come with us. !!! And then .... on !!!! And Vik.Nik.! How will he look at this indecency ???? laughing
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 8 January 2021 10: 42
                +2
                Seryozha, once again ... There are people who start their daily browsing of the resource with the sections "history" and "weapons", and there are people who start with "news" and "opinions". The forum of the last sections is a "reserve of intelligent ferns", for these anthropomorphic dendromutants outshine even amoebas in their limitations.
              2. Undecim
                Undecim 8 January 2021 16: 05
                +6
                How will he look at this lewdness ????
                As a necessary evil. Walking across the manured field, it is impossible not to step into the manure.
          2. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 8 January 2021 10: 22
            +2
            Yes, and more. Don't forget in which section, unfortunately, the article is posted.
  • Phil77
    Phil77 8 January 2021 07: 28
    0
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    I will teach dogs to love!

    Again, the minus has appeared, damn it wink
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 8 January 2021 07: 58
      +1
      Quote: Phil77
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      I will teach dogs to love!

      Again, the minus has appeared, damn it wink

      Where without it !!! laughing
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 8 January 2021 09: 17
        +1
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Where without it !!!

        Well .. without what makes a man a man. Answers are not expected, right?
    2. Pane Kohanku
      Pane Kohanku 12 January 2021 10: 53
      0
      Again, the minus has appeared, damn it

      This is not negative, this is disgusting. They themselves do not know how to communicate, and they spoil others in karma. I corrected everyone as best I could. soldier
  • Phil77
    Phil77 8 January 2021 07: 57
    +2
    Quote: bubalik
    I will teach you all dogs to love

    * You're lying. You can't take it. * This is from the classics. Chapaev. wink
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 8 January 2021 09: 31
      +2
      Quote: Phil77
      classics Chapaev.

      Smart guy! Who didn't you like, eh? Cat? Chapaev? Me? Answer me?
      1. depressant
        depressant 8 January 2021 10: 04
        +4
        - Ha ha ha! - Golovan Jack responded from the darkness in an eerie voice, wrapping himself more tightly in the new Nick and covering the avatar with his clawed hand. - So I'll call you! Naive!...

        Good morning, colleagues! love ))))
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 8 January 2021 10: 09
          +5
          Quote: depressant

          Good morning, colleagues! ))))

          Oopsss !!! And again, unexpectedly! Lyuda! Good morning to you, dear !!! loveBut the cat is good, right?
          1. depressant
            depressant 8 January 2021 10: 28
            +4
            Any cat is good and respected, and only the Cat Manul spoiled his story through an operation to change the species sex from feline to dog and while saying: "Call me Golovan Jack now!" However, we must pay tribute, in the spirit of the times.
            And as for the particular cat represented here by the portrait, it is not otherwise the reincarnation of Malyuta Skuratov)))
        2. Phil77
          Phil77 8 January 2021 10: 37
          +3
          Quote: depressant

          Good morning, colleagues!

          I will say this ... with my, Hmmm ... education. Article- * plus *. Comments - * + * Not all, alas.
        3. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 8 January 2021 11: 00
          +6
          My respect, Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
          You shouldn't be talking about Roman (Golovan Jack) ...
          1. depressant
            depressant 8 January 2021 11: 53
            +5
            Good morning Anton! ))))
            Yes, of course, in vain! An extremely intelligent person who sharply disliked me for criticizing Putin. He simply did not understand that any administrative position is firing squad, and for this reason, the president's activities are subjected to harsh analysis with hard-hitting conclusions. Boyars bring him a convenient "truth", on the basis of which the president makes the wrong decisions, and I, like thousands of other commentators, present the inconvenient, forcing him to act in reality. But, apparently, I have been and I am especially malicious and impartial in my statements, and maybe just reasoned to the proper extent, because Golovan took a special interest in me. I understand him. A person with difficulty achieved something in this life, and I kind of undermine the platform on which his well-being stands ...
            Only bad luck. There are a lot of people, smart and even talented, who, for one reason or another, failed to climb onto this platform within the framework of the laws created by Putin, life goes to dust, old age is on the street, in a ditch, under a fence or bridge, or even suicide. The citizenship law, which I fought for, has never taken shape. To say that it hurts is to say nothing.
            Golovan didn’t get it, he didn’t take it.
            However, let's leave this topic, it is, apparently, only mine.
            Let's just live, drowning out melancholy with fun, let's not talk about sad things)))
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 8 January 2021 12: 01
              +5
              Let's just live, drowning out melancholy with fun, let's not talk about sad things)))
              Good!
              As for Golovan, I have formed my own opinion about the person, different from most of those who crossed paths with him on the forum.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 8 January 2021 08: 08
    +3
    I wonder if you can eat centaurs? In principle, you can cut off your hind legs, and say to Heron in a friendly way, and you walk on two legs lol ... Horses are sickly creatures, and treating them is not a very rewarding occupation, they live, but they no longer show their former qualities. Of course, to bandage the wound and caress the little animal, it really will be easier for her. To date, veterinarians give vaccinations to animals, and the most popular is to cut off the eggs of cats. these are the doctors.
    1. bubalik
      8 January 2021 09: 15
      +6
      I wonder if you can eat centaurs? In principle, you can cut off the hind legs, and say to Heron in a friendly way, and walk on two legs
      wassat good
      ,,, if you cook a mermaid, what kind of soup will you get? Meat or fish? laughing
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 8 January 2021 09: 49
        +6
        Quote: bubalik
        fish

        Mermaid! By the way, yes, it tastes interesting, but we're not these ... winkOops! A Yes. Topic? Cannibalism? Joke !!!
        1. bubalik
          8 January 2021 10: 06
          +6
          Yes. Topic? Cannibalism?
          ,,, also a theme. Vyacheslav O. writes about the Indians, only this fact bypasses.
          Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus in the play of the same name feeds his enemies with dishes from their own children.
          Herman Melville, in Moby Dick, fantasizes about forced cannibalism.
          Jonathan Swift writes a pamphlet "A Modest Proposal" in which he invites the rich to buy children from the Irish poor and eat them - they say, it will be better for everyone. Michel Montaigne writes an essay "On the Cannibals", where he compares the customs of the cannibals of North America and the European colonialists, coming to the conclusion that the latter are much greater savages.
          belay
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 8 January 2021 10: 19
            +4
            Quote: bubalik
            Yes. Topic? Cannibalism?
            ,,, also a theme. Vyacheslav O. writes about the Indians, only this fact bypasses.
            Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus in the play of the same name feeds his enemies with dishes from their own children.
            Herman Melville, in Moby Dick, fantasizes about forced cannibalism.
            Jonathan Swift writes a pamphlet "A Modest Proposal" in which he invites the rich to buy children from the Irish poor and eat them - they say, it will be better for everyone. Michel Montaigne writes an essay "On the Cannibals", where he compares the customs of the cannibals of North America and the European colonialists, coming to the conclusion that the latter are much greater savages.
            belay

            Quote: bubalik
            Jonathan Swift writes the pamphlet The Modest

            Sergiy !!! Is it worth it? Fig, fig, fig! There is a more suitable dish. Yes! I can recommend a good canned food! Eat it myself! Two years!
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 8 January 2021 10: 50
              +5
              I eat it myself! Two years!
              How much did you tell your cat? Two years? Poor Filka! crying He licks the whiskas bags for the owner ... crying laughing
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 8 January 2021 11: 15
                +4
                Quote: 3x3zsave
                How much did you tell your cat

                Three years! * Poor Filka *? !!! Aha! Now! And the food ???? Yes, this poor Filka eats more than me !!!!!!
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 8 January 2021 11: 24
                  +6
                  It is he who cares about you, keeps you in good shape! laughing
          2. depressant
            depressant 8 January 2021 10: 38
            +2
            And Hannibal Lector?!?
            Remember this eerie scene when he feeds the fried brains of his pursuing police officer to him, and he, already with an open skull, in a state of almost a clinical idiot, eats and praises?
            A scene full of subtext, hidden meaning. A civilization that eats away at itself reason, common sense.
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 8 January 2021 10: 42
              +4
              Quote: depressant
              Hannibal Lecter?!?
              Remember that eerie scene when he feeds fried brains

              Luda !!!!! Stop it, huh ?? pliz ??? Let's talk about cats .. about dogs, eh ???
              1. bubalik
                8 January 2021 10: 43
                +5
                pliz ??? Let's talk about cats .. about dogs, eh ???
                ,,, how to cook them? whatBuy five whites and build a cat. repeat
                The operation is performed for cats, even under anesthesia, but it is a pity for the pigs crying everything is there without anesthesia ...
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 8 January 2021 11: 11
                  +4
                  Quote: bubalik
                  to cook? Buy five whites and build a cat.
                  For cats, even under anesthesia

                  Rrrrr! That's what you mean, huh ??!
                2. Phil77
                  Phil77 8 January 2021 13: 16
                  +4
                  Quote: bubalik
                  cook

                  Where does this unhealthy * love * for us come from?
                3. Free wind
                  Free wind 9 January 2021 00: 42
                  +2
                  There is no anesthesia, they are simply immobilized, they feel everything, this is real.
              2. depressant
                depressant 8 January 2021 12: 07
                +4
                Yes, of course, Seryozha! )))
                But then, in revenge, below I will tell another story concerning you. wassat )))
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 8 January 2021 13: 00
                  +3
                  Quote: depressant
                  concerning you

                  Well, Kasia?
                  1. depressant
                    depressant 8 January 2021 14: 10
                    +5
                    Testimony given by other participants in the event, which almost became tragic.
                    ... The leader of the pack sniffed and sniffed. Smiling, he thought: "Here, there is a homo, shaking. He understands that he will not leave. And, I suppose, he longs for the cheerful and swanky life of Charlie Sheen to finally flashed before his inner gaze."
                    Turning to the pack, the Leader looked for old Polkan.
                    - What do you think is the attraction of homo?
                    Old Polkan, moving forward and moving his nose, barked hoarsely and hesitantly:
                    - Maybe "Stolichnaya"?
                    The leader thought: "Polkan has completely lost his scent! But with something like that ... What kind of smell?"
                    The flock grumbled at random:
                    - No, we will not "Stolichnaya"! Who uses it today! The meat from her does not soften, well, nafig!
                    “He’s carrying some kind of overseas rubbish, I can’t determine,” Young barked barkingly, and the man, with a start, decided that they were barking at him, and slightly backed away on bending legs. Measurement.
                    The flock began to confer - silently, at the mental level, only occasionally exploding, and the man, dying, listened. Finally, the flock decided that there was no need to poison themselves with an unknown rubbish, turned around and disappeared into the darkness.
                    ... Sergei, standing a little to catch his breath, wiped the perspiration on his forehead and finally headed home.
                    "On this occasion, I ought to have a drink, - he decided. - And treat the cat with valerian. Valeriak - the cat, and I have what is in the stash."
                    Life was getting better, and Sergei smiled. All is well that ends well!
                    1. 3x3zsave
                      3x3zsave 8 January 2021 14: 36
                      +5
                      Bravo, Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
                      1. bubalik
                        8 January 2021 14: 48
                        +4
                        depressant (lyudmila yakovlevna kuznetsova)
                        ,,, good well done! hi
                    2. Phil77
                      Phil77 8 January 2021 15: 58
                      +5
                      Quote: depressant
                      Testimony given by other participants in the event, which almost became tragic.
                      ... The leader of the pack sniffed and sniffed. Smiling, he thought: "Here, there is a homo, shaking. He understands that he will not leave. And, I suppose, he longs for the cheerful and swanky life of Charlie Sheen to finally flashed before his inner gaze."
                      Turning to the pack, the Leader looked for old Polkan.
                      - What do you think is the attraction of homo?
                      Old Polkan, moving forward and moving his nose, barked hoarsely and hesitantly:
                      - Maybe "Stolichnaya"?
                      The leader thought: "Polkan has completely lost his scent! But with something like that ... What kind of smell?"
                      The flock grumbled at random:
                      - No, we will not "Stolichnaya"! Who uses it today! The meat from her does not soften, well, nafig!
                      “He’s carrying some kind of overseas rubbish, I can’t determine,” Young barked barkingly, and the man, with a start, decided that they were barking at him, and slightly backed away on bending legs. Measurement.
                      The flock began to confer - silently, at the mental level, only occasionally exploding, and the man, dying, listened. Finally, the flock decided that there was no need to poison themselves with an unknown rubbish, turned around and disappeared into the darkness.
                      ... Sergei, standing a little to catch his breath, wiped the perspiration on his forehead and finally headed home.
                      "On this occasion, I ought to have a drink, - he decided. - And treat the cat with valerian. Valeriak - the cat, and I have what is in the stash."
                      Life was getting better, and Sergei smiled. All is well that ends well!

                      Quote: depressant
                      Sergei smiled. All is well that ends well!

                      Lyudmila, bravo! Bravo! Bravo! Well, damn it, I promised you, my love, not to praise ??? But ... this !!!!!! Plusis! A lot !!!! From the heart !!!!!
                      1. Free wind
                        Free wind 9 January 2021 16: 06
                        +1
                        Yesterday a certain girl turned out to be a fagot on the site. Something like that.
                    3. Phil77
                      Phil77 8 January 2021 16: 01
                      +3
                      Quote: depressant
                      headed home.

                      To work! Then thank God, it was easier! laughing
                2. Phil77
                  Phil77 8 January 2021 13: 53
                  +3
                  Quote: depressant
                  concerning you

                  My God! What is this known? Lost !!!
          3. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 8 January 2021 11: 10
            +5
            By the way, Sergey, an interesting topic! Will you take it?
            1. bubalik
              8 January 2021 11: 13
              +5
              interesting topic!
              ,,, here I am saying that it is interesting.
              ,, no, about submarines is more interesting.
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 8 January 2021 13: 10
                +2
                Quote: bubalik

                ,, no, about submarines is more interesting

                Don't touch the cats! Holy! Better about * submarines *. And cats? Sami meow meow meow meow! wink
              2. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 8 January 2021 14: 55
                +5
                By the way, Sergey, I have to ask about the genesis of the inspiration for writing this material?
                1. bubalik
                  8 January 2021 15: 00
                  +4
                  ,,, veterinary medicine, submarines or cannibalism? request Without a clear TK - the result is HZ laughing
                  Skomorokhov announced more than a year ago that there would be topics about horses in war, well, of course, not exactly written about it, but close.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 8 January 2021 15: 20
                    +4
                    Skomorokhov announced more than a year ago that themes about horses in war would be
                    Hmmm ... It turns out strange, Skomorokhov announced, and you wrote ...
      2. Free wind
        Free wind 8 January 2021 10: 29
        +4
        My Mermaid bore me two sons, alas, she did not raise, she died.
      3. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 9 January 2021 10: 32
        +4
        Quote: bubalik
        I wonder if you can eat centaurs? In principle, you can cut off the hind legs, and say to Heron in a friendly way, and walk on two legs
        wassat good
        ,,, if you cook a mermaid, what kind of soup will you get? Meat or fish? laughing

        Like frog legs, I guess
    2. bk0010
      bk0010 8 January 2021 17: 59
      +3
      Quote: Free Wind
      I wonder if you can eat centaurs?
      You are apolitical! Women say that a centaur is both a man in the house and a cattle on the farm. And you - "are" ...
  • Free wind
    Free wind 8 January 2021 08: 26
    +4
    In the photo, Hitler is holding the bunk, or something, looks like it.
  • Phil77
    Phil77 8 January 2021 11: 21
    +1
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    interesting topic!

    No!!!
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 8 January 2021 12: 09
      +5
      Yes!!! As disgusting as it may be, cannibalism, like homosexuality, accompanies a person throughout history. And to close our eyes to this phenomenon is at least unreasonable.
  • depressant
    depressant 8 January 2021 16: 07
    +4
    In fact, the article was overwhelming. Realizing that horses, camels and mules in the First World War were used as vehicles, it never seemed that on such a scale and with great benefit. It seemed to me that horses - yes, cavalrymen rode and attacked them. But to have so many of all kinds of animals? Hence, the creation of a military veterinary service in the West becomes clear. Was there something similar in the USSR? I only know about Russian dolphins. They turned out to be humanists! They agree to guard the borders, but not to be saboteurs.
    But seals and fur seals are not burdened with a conscience. They easily pierce the scuba diver-saboteur with a poisoned needle and are ready, having sailed to the enemy ship, to remotely detonate the explosive charge they are carrying - they do not understand that they will die. This is what the Americans are training them for.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 8 January 2021 16: 25
      +3
      Quote: depressant
      Russian dolphins. They turned out to be humanists! Borders

      Lyudmila, yes! Do they have humanists? And by the way, we were the pioneers in the use of * children of water *. Lev Durov. 1915.
      1. depressant
        depressant 8 January 2021 17: 10
        +2
        It seems to me that sooner or later the use of animals for military purposes will become a thing of the past. Robots will take their place.
        Just yesterday I watched the video.
        Dance music sounds - retro 1982. A humanoid robot appears, simply in the form of a mechanical structure, roughly, but it seems to imitate a human body. He appeared, which means he attaches himself to the rhythm and very deftly begins to make dance steps, moving his arms, legs, body. The second comes out, the same, and enters with the first in a dance, even with Russian elements, or these elements are gypsy, this is when the dancer hits himself with his palm on the boot. And then a robot-dog appeared: a long yellow body in the form of a cylinder, a long thin neck with a thrown back head, thin legs with relying joints, and, having entered the rhythm, he began to give out this! Even his mouth gaped playfully in a perky teaser and stamped his hooves in a special way, beating out the rhythm. But the apotheosis was the emergence of a forklift, which has no anthropic features, but surprisingly appropriately joined the dance. And this four, having danced in joint excitement, led me to a sad understanding of how strong a person who created such a person is, how weak he is in comparison with never-tired devices, and that such devices, by the will of a few, will begin to crowd out many people from many spheres of life, and the degradation of humanity as a species will begin. One thing is sports to maintain muscle tone, another is training the mind, resourcefulness and endurance in the face of real life difficulties and, most importantly, dangers in the form of military and other conflicts.
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 8 January 2021 19: 08
          +3
          Quote: depressant
          conflicts

          Lyudmila, dear Lyudmila! Have you watched Spielberg's ** Artificial intelligence *? A film! A real film!
          1. depressant
            depressant 8 January 2021 19: 43
            +1
            No have not seen it. Is it documentary or fiction?
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 8 January 2021 21: 22
              +3
              Quote: depressant
              artistic

              A fiction film. A film that we, the generation of the 70s, completely ruined this whole world! Today we have that we have. Yes! Why? Yes, it was necessary to think yesterday, and not hope for today !!!!!! But Putin is a product of our * yesterday *! Seventies !!!!!!! damn! Watching the chronicle of * fatal-forties *! Guys! In a better life tomorrow! Here in this! Now? Watch-YouTube. This is the answer.
              1. depressant
                depressant 8 January 2021 21: 37
                +2
                I'll go watch)))
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 8 January 2021 21: 42
                  +3
                  Quote: depressant
                  I'm going to watch

                  You will not regret your time, Lyuda! That's right!
                  1. depressant
                    depressant 8 January 2021 22: 36
                    +3
                    I watched a third of the film, up to the place where David went into the bedroom to cut off a curl from his mother. I put the phone on recharge, I'll check it tomorrow.
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 9 January 2021 01: 23
                      +3
                      I watched this unbearably sad film and felt like David. We are all davids, abandoned, abandoned, devoted. The film is not about robots, it has a very definite direction. But this topic is not the place to talk about it.
                      1. Phil77
                        Phil77 9 January 2021 10: 20
                        +4
                        Quote: depressant
                        speak.

                        Bravo! Lyudmila Yakovlevna, bravo! Emotions are similar !!!! The end of the film amazes the most! David's emotions when he realizes that everything! Nothing else will happen !!!!!
                      2. Phil77
                        Phil77 9 January 2021 10: 24
                        +4
                        Quote: depressant
                        We are all davids, abandoned, abandoned

                        No! You have me! Yes, and other guys! No place for despair! No?
                      3. depressant
                        depressant 9 January 2021 11: 23
                        +2
                        Seryozha, come on!
                        The films "Blade Runner", part one, and "Artificial Intelligence" are in need of serious political dismantling - there is no site on VO! Only Soviet and Russian war films were considered, which, however, is understandable.
                      4. Esoteric
                        Esoteric 9 January 2021 11: 26
                        +2
                        One of my favorite films. It is quite possible that it is also prophetic.
  • saygon66
    saygon66 9 January 2021 11: 45
    +4
    - The history and traditions of the British Army is an interesting and almost inexhaustible topic! good
    - But why did you start with the Veterinary Corps?