New flamethrower system TOS-2 "Tosochka" began to enter the troops

The newest heavy flame-throwing system TOS-2 ("Tosochka") went to the troops. According to the Ministry of Defense, the first vehicles were received by the Central Military District.

The new flamethrower system entered service with the mobile units of the RHBZ Central Military District, stationed in the Saratov region. According to the report, the equipment arrived at the end of 2020, the number of delivered copies was not reported.

(...) TOS-2 heavy flamethrower systems have been delivered to the mobile RCB protection units stationed in the Saratov region

- Reported the press service.

The fact that the TOS-2 flamethrower system will go to the troops at the end of 2020 was announced by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu on the eve of the Caucasus-2020 exercises, where this system was to be tested in conditions close to combat. At the same time, the head of Rostec, Sergei Chemezov, said that Tosochka was completing the tests.

The TOS-2 heavy flame-throwing system was created on the basis of the TOS-1 "Buratino" and TOS-1A "Solntsepek", but in contrast to them it has a wheelbase and improved tactical and technical characteristics. Earlier it was reported about the creation of new ammunition for TOS-2. The machine was created taking into account the experience of using such weapons during the hostilities in the Middle East.

TOS-2 in the future will replace TOS-1 and TOS-1A, but track-mounted flamethrower systems will not be removed from service, but will be modernized. The modernized vehicles will receive modern digital communication facilities, as well as equipment for a closed data transmission segment, which will allow them to be integrated into automatic control systems (ACS) of the tactical level. In addition, long-range ammunition from TOS-1 will be adapted for TOS-1 and TOS-2A, thereby increasing their range to 15 km instead of the currently available 6 km.

Earlier, the Ministry of Defense said that by 2025 TOS-2 will replace all TOS-1 and TOS-1A in the Southern Military District. Tracked TPS will remain in service with the RChBZ troops in other regions where the use of wheeled vehicles is impractical.

Comments

[Victor_B]

("Toosochka") went to the troops

Yes, a terrible mess!

[Observer2014]

Quote: Victor_B

("Toosochka") went to the troops

Yes, a terrible mess!

Yeah. Just embody the horror. It depends on whom and how to fight this "Tosochka". With such a range, let someone invented it their children on it to the war and send it to start. Plus, those who thoughtlessly roll out to the front line will put their children in it. And they roll out. Here is a video from the recent conflict. The Armenians knocked out the TPS of the Azerbaijani army .. This weapon is terrible in its use, but no less terrible in handling it. Smoke the gang out of the cave, yes, but with such a range against any organized army

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Observer2014

It depends on whom and how to fight this "Tosochka"

Naturally, with such a "range" and "armor" you don't even want to think against whom they are going to use this misunderstanding.

[Doctor]

Naturally, with such a "range" and "armor" you don't even want to think against whom they are going to use this misunderstanding.

In the town. There was an article about Königsberg and the work of flamethrowers.
This was necessary in Grozny in 1995.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Arzt

This was necessary in Grozny in 1995

Well, not with the same armor and base !!

[Doctor]

Well, not with the same armor and base !!

From the outskirts of the city, in certain quarters - quite!
It is not easy to hide from thermobaric. There is no better way to clear the roads in front of the assault groups.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Arzt

From the outskirts of the city, in certain quarters - quite!
It is not easy to hide from thermobaric.

Voo, you understand in pinpoint strikes! Isn't it easier to roll everything into a thin pancake with aviation?

Quote: Arzt

There is no better way to clear roads in front of assault groups

Well, why then assault groups? Yet burned out and ruined. And in the city they always rolled out something maximum armored direct fire, if any, tanks, ISU-152, Shturmtigry. Where does this Ural have something at least from a large-caliber machine gun?

[Doctor]

Voo, you understand in pinpoint strikes! lol Isn't it easier to roll everything into a thin pancake with aviation?

Here you just need to work on areas. And one that can smoke out of the basement.
Aviation is worse, the area of ​​the FAB is smaller, the walls slow down the scattering of fragments, the basements are not taken at all.
And don't forget about MANPADS.

[Doctor]

Well, why then assault groups? Yet burned out and ruined. And in the city they always rolled out something that was maximally armored for direct fire, if there was, tanks, ISU-152, Shturmtigry. Where does this Ural have something at least from a large-caliber machine gun?

All true.
These Urals are in the 3rd echelon. Burn over the head, the range is enough to block the middle city.
Hail, too, will come off, but shrapnel smokes worse.

But armored is certainly better, I agree.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Arzt

From the outskirts of the city, in certain quarters - quite!
It is not easy to hide from thermobaric. There is no better way to clear the roads in front of the assault groups.

And, excuse me, why make a specialized machine for this and give it to RKhBZ? If the task of striking a quarter from 15 km (and further) will be calmly coped with the regular army readiness with MLRS, the BC which includes NURS with a thermobaric warhead.
And it will not be necessary to create in the RChBZ its own parallel rocket artillery with instrumental reconnaissance, forward observers, topographic location, preparation of data for firing, powerful rear (because the consumption of the BP when leaving direct fire increases sharply), etc.
What is the passion to duplicate existing structures and weapons systems instead of establishing normal interaction?

[brr1]

Burn their citizens ??? You are a terrible person.

[D16]

Burn their citizens ???

Earlier, the Ministry of Defense said that by 2025 TOS-2 will replace all TOS-1 and TOS-1A in the Southern Military District. Tracked TPS will remain in service with the RChBZ troops in other regions where the use of wheeled vehicles is impractical. (C)
Have you ever heard of a zombie apocalypse?

[faiver]

let who invented it his children on it to the war and sends it to start

- any weapon systems are dangerous not only for the enemy and carry a certain risk and threat to those who use them themselves, anything can happen, the Germans used the entire first world airships on hydrogen, and a brick can fall on anyone's head ...

[Observer2014]

Quote: faiver

let who invented it his children on it to the war and sends it to start

- any weapon systems are dangerous not only for the enemy and carry a certain risk and threat to those who use them themselves, anything can happen, the Germans used the entire first world airships on hydrogen, and a brick can fall on anyone's head ...

Expected argument: you personally and your relatives and friends will serve well. Would you like to fight in this car? If so, then go ahead. During the Second World War, the Japanese also had kamikaze. On a voluntary basis.
"Tosochka" is a car for parades. And patriotic commercials. Everything. There is no other application except for what I said above. To burn a gang out of a cave. It has no practical sense. Against any army, especially NATO, except for laughter and pity for those in it and near it, it does not bear. And to cauterize places of chemical or bacteriological contamination for the needs of the NBC protection troops, it can and yes, in certain cases. And so they dangle in parades. And nothing more.

[faiver]

You personally and your relatives and friends will serve well. Will you fight in this car?

- and now you can choose where and on what to fight?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Observer2014

"Tosochka" is a car for parades. And patriotic commercials. Everything. There is no other application except for what I said above. To burn a gang out of a cave. It has no practical meaning. Against any army, especially NATO, except for laughter and pity for those in it and near it, it does not bear.

BoK-level analytics.
Why are you so perceptive, perspicacious, all-pervading, etc. etc. you do not write memoranda yourself, but just useless comments on VO?
Intrigues of envious ill-wishers? Who, frightened by the cyclopean size of your talent, gathered in a secret society, where they swore an oath to commit suicide rather than allow you to occupy that grandiose position in society that you, no doubt, deserve.
Another rejected genius, damn it.

[1976AG]

Quote: Observer2014

Quote: Victor_B

("Toosochka") went to the troops

Yes, a terrible mess!

Yeah. Just embody the horror. It depends on whom and how to fight this "Tosochka". With such a range, let someone invented it their children on it to the war and send it to start. Plus, those who thoughtlessly roll out to the front line will put their children in it. And they roll out. Here is a video from the recent conflict. The Armenians knocked out the TPS of the Azerbaijani army .. This weapon is terrible in its use, but no less terrible in handling it. Smoke the gang out of the cave, yes, but with such a range against any organized army

Against "organized" armies, there is a Smerch MLRS with thermobaric ammunition.

[Observer2014]

1976AG (Alexey)

Against "organized" armies, there is a Smerch MLRS with thermobaric ammunition.

The Azerbaijanis apparently did not consider the Armenians an organized army? Therefore, CBT was pulled up to the front line .... Listen, do not confuse warm with soft. What for what and where they use it, and without you, everyone understands perfectly well. We are discussing "Toosochka" specifically. Want to mindlessly grumble. Suddenly something will change. For example, the range of the item under discussion, or enemies will run away to the loose when the latter appears at the front edge.

[1976AG]

Listen to what is being discussed here, and I understand perfectly well without you. If you want to show off your wit, there are humorous shows for this. You put the range of application in the lack of TOC, so I answered that each system has its own task. Although, it’s probably difficult for you.

[bayard]

Quote: Observer2014

.For example, the range of the item under discussion. Or enemies in the loose will run away when

15 km.
The orientation of this device is most likely for export, and in order to better go it is being adopted. And 15 km. after all, not 5, this is no longer the front end, but at the level of the positions of the barrel artillery.

[1976AG]

It was our military who complained about the insufficient range. All the improvements to which the flamethrower systems were subjected were made according to the comments of our military, and not foreign ones.

[bayard]

But the wheeled chassis is still not for our soft soils, muddy mud and other off-road conditions. Although the combination of both bases (tracked and wheeled) looks preferable - trailers are not needed for fast transport over long distances.

[1976AG]

There are not so many such impassable places and the wheeled chassis is fine for our conditions. Otherwise, we would not have at all military equipment on wheels. But the advantages are obvious - increased mobility and the ability to quickly leave positions after a strike. In fact, the time has come to abandon towed artillery in favor of installations on a wheeled chassis. The first signs of this process are already there.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: 1976AG

It was our military who complained about the insufficient range. All the improvements to which the flamethrower systems were subjected were made according to the comments of our military, and not foreign ones.

As a result, the military got a system that is not needed.
For on the front line (as a basic TOC) it is impossible to apply it - the defense is too weak. And to work with 10-15 km of thermobaric NURS can ordinary MLRS, which the army already has. And which, by the way, already have all the structures that provide the ability to work from such ranges.
In fact, TOS-2 is a duplication of standard MLRS.

[Vadim237]

First of all, TOS 2 is needed for the functions of the RHBZ - the destruction of the enemy is its secondary function.

[1976AG]

Quote: Vadim237

First of all, TOS 2 is needed for the functions of the RHBZ - the destruction of the enemy is its secondary function.

It is only the "secondary" function that they often have to perform in practice.

[bayard]

Quote: Vadim237

First of all, TOC 2 is needed for the functions of the NBC

Flamethrowers have always belonged to the RChBZ, so they don't break the tradition. Even reactive ones.

[Incvizitor]

You can then prohibit the video, where in the MBT ammunition and MBT detonates.

[bayard]

Quote: Observer2014

.With such a range, let someone invented it their children on it to the war and send

So it has a range of up to 15 km. added new ammunition, and this is already a range of 122 mm. guns.
But of course the car chassis surprised, but ... apparently the point is in the planned export deliveries to the BV - they are asking for wheeled vehicles. So it turned out with the "Pantsir", they wanted for themselves on a tank chassis, and the Emirates asked for a wheeled chassis - they have a desert, dry and solid ground. So, after that, the export option was adopted for ourselves. Apparently the same thing with "Tosochka".

[Analkara]

Firstly, this is not TOS, but Solntsepёk with a firing range of only 6 km.
Secondly, knowing how the Armenians fight that threatened the promising electronic warfare "Repellent" complex. It will not take long to guess how TOS-1A Solntsepёk was brought to this.
This video only confirms the incompetence of the Armenian armed forces, and not the Russian TPS.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Victor_B

Yes, a terrible mess!

For a blind and deaf enemy with nothing in the air and unable to adequately resist the threat. Otherwise, it will be very difficult to cover it.
This is a very specific device for preparing for assault operations. In places where there is no civilian population seriously suffering from these weapons, or where they are sacrificed. As a fact, it is known the use of such baubles against babays in Afghanistan, Syria, against bandits in Chechnya.
The world is seeing a departure from the practice of using such weapons with the transition to precision weapons.

[_Ugene_]

The world is seeing a departure from the practice of using such weapons with the transition to precision weapons.

This is observed well in the world, but you should not mindlessly copy what is observed, for example, the same amount of work that was done in Syria with high-precision weapons would cost astronomical money, for our budget, in principle, not lifting, different approaches for different tasks

[A. Privalov]

Quote: _Ugene_

The world is seeing a departure from the practice of using such weapons with the transition to precision weapons.

This is observed well in the world, but you should not mindlessly copy what is observed, for example, the same amount of work that was done in Syria with high-precision weapons would cost astronomical money, for our budget, in principle, not lifting, different approaches for different tasks

You are absolutely right.
The Syrian events are the specific application of such devices.
As I noted above, something similar took place in Afghanistan and Chechnya.
High-precision weapons are used in places where there is a high risk of injury to civilians: densely built-up areas, the use of civilians by bandit formations in the form of a human shield, etc.

[oleg-gr]

The country is big. Climatic conditions are different. Both bases (tracked and wheeled) will come in handy.

[Doctor]

The country is big. Climatic conditions are different. Both bases (tracked and wheeled) will come in handy.

Where were they when Grozny was stormed.

[maxim k.]

When Grozny was stormed, many things were not even on paper.

[Doctor]

When Grozny was stormed, many things were not even on paper.

This is yes. But I'm generally talking about flamethrowers. In my opinion, the small (in comparison with artillery) firing range limits the use in the field.
This is a weapon for taking cities.

[1976AG]

Quote: maxim k.

When Grozny was stormed, many things were not even on paper.

CBTs have been around since the Afghan war. In addition, they were used in the second Chechen war.

[Doctor]

CBTs have been around since the Afghan war. In addition, they were used in the second Chechen war.

Yes, they worked well in Komsomolskoye.

Troshev's characteristic:

I would like to note that the firepower of the TOS "Buratino" was a good help in the operation. The high accuracy and high efficiency of this system made it possible to achieve results where other means of fire were powerless. "

Characteristics of Echo of Moscow in 2000:

TOS-1 is known in the army as the "Buratino" system. A thirty-barreled launcher is mounted on the chassis of a main battle tank (say, a T-72). Fires unguided rockets with a thermobaric warhead filled with a flammable liquid. On contact, the liquid evaporates, forming an aerosol cloud, which is then ignited. A massive explosion of monstrous force occurs.
With a TOS-1 salvo, individual explosions overlap, creating a zone of continuous destruction. Official advertising materials of the state-owned Rosvooruzheniye state company claim that the TOS-1 salvo “destroys all living things” in the three-kilometer zone, as well as military equipment and fortifications.
Surviving a TOS-1 salvo is as difficult as taking cover from a tactical nuclear explosion. Ultra-high temperature and pressure destroy people in shelters underground: in dugouts, in basements, in bunkers.
The advertising slogan “destroys all living things” is by no means a literary phrase. Pinocchio kills birds in trees, mice in burrows, vegetation and even bacteria.

Well, of course - by itself:

However, the beauty of TOS-1 is that after the volley there are practically no casualties left, only burnt-out ashes. There is no one to complain to Geneva.

[faiver]

You need to ask Pasha-Mercedes ...

[Doctor]

You need to ask Pasha-Mercedes ...

Yes, he may not be to blame. If you were taught one thing, but you have to do something else, then what is the demand.
In the Airborne Forces, a third of the preparation time is occupied by the RAP.
Which now, for good reason, is only needed by the DRG.

[Flashpoint]

In addition, long-range ammunition from TOS-1 will be adapted for TOS-1 and TOS-2A, thereby increasing their range to 15 km instead of the currently available 6 km.

Everywhere about adaptation plans, but nowhere did I find specifics. What new ammunition size?
How will this innovation affect the transport and charging vehicle?

[Doccor18]

Good news, but I would very much like to hear about when the T-14, T-15, K-17, VPK-3926 and other samples of modern military equipment for the ground forces will go to the troops ...

[URAL72]

Have you been drinking all the New Year's holidays? During this time, there were about a dozen articles on your question.

[dmmyak40]

Quote: Doccor18

Good news, but I would very much like to hear about when the T-14, T-15, K-17, VPK-3926 and other samples of modern military equipment for the ground forces will go to the troops ...

When Chernomorsk will be declared a "free city" ...
Why are you asking questions about other types of weapons in the article about TOC? What for? Let me ask here a question about START-3? Will it be appropriate?

[venik]

Quote: dmmyak40

Why are you asking questions about other types of weapons in the article about TOC? What for?

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You shouldn't be so! Alexander simply expressed a desire to see new equipment not only in the RHBZ troops! What's wrong with that? I would like that too!
In general, this site is not uncommon, for a year the discussion "begins -" for health ", and ends -" for peace " politicians)..... This is certainly not appropriate!

[Doccor18]

Quote: dmmyak40

Quote: Doccor18

Good news, but I would very much like to hear about when the T-14, T-15, K-17, VPK-3926 and other samples of modern military equipment for the ground forces will go to the troops ...

When Chernomorsk will be declared a "free city" ...
Why are you asking questions about other types of weapons in the article about TOC? What for? Let me ask here a question about START-3? Will it be appropriate?

START-3 would be inappropriate.
And about the armament of the ground forces - quite. I am very proud that the RCBZ is receiving new equipment that allows it to hit targets 3 times longer. However, sometimes there is information that, due to a lack of funds, the troops do not receive the main types of military equipment - the latest tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, self-propelled guns .. And the infantrymen have been traveling ON BTR-35 / 80A armor for 80 years ...

[tank64rus]

Any technique requires proper use. its thoughtless use leads to loss and defeat. Unfortunately, military hardware is not equipped with "foolproof protection." The defeat of military science by Serdyukov and Co. and the rejection of the Soviet system for the development and adoption of new models of military equipment and military equipment will hinder the development of the armed forces for a long time to come.

[Alien From]

Specific equipment, of course, for export to Africa is just right ... let the Ministry of Defense earn money on it ...

[1976AG]

Quote: Alien From

Specific equipment, of course, for export to Africa is just right ... let the Ministry of Defense earn money on it ...

You are like Nikita Sergeevich in your time, why do we need guns when we have missiles.

[Alien From]

Range, it's all about range ...

[1976AG]

Quote: Alien From

Range, it's all about range ...

For longer range, there are other systems with the same warhead.

[andrew42]

About the range of thermobar-ammunition - very, very pleased. The machine is very necessary, albeit specialized. RHBZ and "smoking" is understandable. Let's wait, maybe we'll see Tosochka in defense, with good cover and from interchangeable positions. And those who demand a "wunderwaffe" from such a technique, let them continue to rave about the "Death Star". Hedgehog it is clear that "all other things being equal" Tosochka does not work without powerful cover. And in terms of opportunities "to hit the road after a volley" is no worse than any OTRK, but the "ekshperty" are not particularly worried about the Iskander. Strange selectivity, hmm.

[Incvizitor]

To Syria, Turkish terrorists are to be fried.

[Evil 55]

There is no limit to perfection, but it's time for the designers to think about increasing the firing range of the installation, and not about transferring it to a wheelbase ..

[Dkuznecov]

This is an offensive weapon, as I understand it.
To understand what kind of people to burn with these
our hawks gathered together with cute toys.

[1976AG]

We have never exterminated any people or tried. You see us beguiled with amers.

[Dkuznecov]

Therefore, I am perplexed. Point not for
kebabs at the exit is intended.
It is quite a narrow purpose tool.

[Petro_tut]

We are waiting for the helicopter version

[taseka]

Something after the shots of how the Turkish drones of Azerbaijan clap one after one MLRS of Armenia (and they are in such correct schemes as in the fortification textbook) the thought of either perfect camouflage or electronic warfare systems arises!

[Prizr]

What you argue about is clear and understandable. Wheels-mobility, new ammunition range.
Old "TOS" will go where there is a cover, their warhead can be more powerful. What is not clear?

[Analkara]

And it is good that they are developing this effective type of weapons.