Ukraine received a report from Iran on the strike on the plane in Tehran

Iran handed over to Ukraine a draft technical report on the causes of the crash of a Boeing 737 passenger aircraft of the Ukrainian airline Ukraine International Airlines, which occurred on January 8, 2020 near Tehran. This is reported by the Ukrainian media.

Ukraine received from Iran a report on the strike on the plane in Tehran on the fifth attempt on December 31, now it will be studied by the relevant authorities, they are given 60 days for this. Based on the results of studying the report, Kiev intends to determine the amount of compensation and achieve its payment.

After 2 months, Iran will again receive the report with the comments of the Ukrainian side, which must prepare the final report within 30 days. The document will be made public only after its approval by the Council of the International Civil Organization aviation.

We received the draft report on December 31, as they say, under the Christmas tree. We now have 2 months for comments and remarks. This is a fairly important stage for further progress, without which it would be impossible to achieve compensation and universal justice.

- said the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba.

According to the minister, the amount of compensation has not yet been determined, and Kiev has not received any official proposals from Tehran. Kuleba refused to name the estimated amount of compensation, but earlier the media wrote that Iran was ready to pay $ 150 for each person killed in the plane crash.

(...) one should be extremely careful with the information of the Iranian media and, as they say, filter every message. Until I receive an official offer from the Iranian government, we will not take into account any messages in the news about numbers

- he added.

Recall that a UIA Boeing 737-800 passenger plane, which took off on the Tehran-Kiev route, was shot down near the Imam Khomeini International Airport in Tehran immediately after takeoff on January 8, 2020. All 167 passengers and 9 crew members on board were killed.

Iran admitted that the plane was shot down by the air defense forces of the republic by mistake. The parties are currently continuing negotiations on the amount of compensation for the downed plane.

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[Vladimir_2U]

Iran is a state and behaves like a state, and VnaU is a filthy misunderstanding.

[Thrall]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

misunderstanding

And the president of this misunderstanding at the time of the disaster was secretly vacationing with his family in one of the most expensive hotels in Oman. The president of another misunderstanding by the name of Pashinyan will now run the country remotely, as he celebrated the New Year with his family in London !!! and naturally caught the coronavirus.

[oleg-gr]

Diligencers in anticipation of calculating the amount of compensation. I doubt that the relatives of the victims will receive a decent amount. It will dry out strongly until it reaches them.

[dgonni]

Get it! Don't be spione here. But for the airplane you can still squeeze out a couple of kopecks from Beni.

[Flashpoint]

Quote: Thrall

Quote: Vladimir_2U

misunderstanding

And the president of this misunderstanding at the time of the disaster was secretly vacationing with his family in one of the most expensive hotels in Oman. President of another misunderstanding by last name Pashinyan now he will manage the country remotely, as he celebrated the New Year with his family in London !!! and naturally caught the coronavirus.

Not certainly in that way - not Pashinyan, but Sargsyan :
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4638871#id1999140
У Armenian President Armen Sarkissian discovered coronavirus SARS-CoV-2. He celebrated New Years in London with his family and underwent leg surgery there, the president's office said.

As reported by "Armenpress", the operation in the capital of Great Britain was successfully completed on January 3. But after that, the 67-year-old head of state developed symptoms of coronavirus. The test was positive. Mr. Sargsyan is in isolation and continues to work remotely. It is not specified where the head of state is isolated.

Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan fell ill with coronavirus in the summer. He reported that the disease was asymptomatic.

160,5 thousand coronavirus infections have been registered in Armenia. 2,9 thousand people died.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Flashpoint

Not quite so - not Pashinyan, but Sargsyan

What's the difference? Does this somehow affect the course of events?

[Terenin]

Iran handed over to Ukraine a draft technical report on the causes of the crash of a Boeing 737 passenger aircraft of the Ukrainian airline Ukraine International Airlines,

Ukraine received from Iran a report on the strike on the plane in Tehran on the fifth attempt

now it will be studied by the relevant authorities, they are given 60 days for this.

Based on the results of studying the report, Kiev intends to determine the amount of compensation and achieve its payment

After 2 months, Iran will again receive a report with comments from the Ukrainian side for a report ...

In short, colleagues, I am proud of the hypersonic correspondence of our relatives Russian district police officers

[Revolver]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Iran is a state and behaves like a state, and VnaU is a filthy misunderstanding.

Iran is an even more vile misunderstanding than even country 404. They are sure that their Shi'i Allah gave them the right to do everything to spread the mullocracy to the entire region, and in the long run the whole world. To list all the terrorist attacks committed by the IRGC or their proxies around the world, there is simply not enough commentary.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Nagan

IRGC or their proxies around the world

You do not confuse them with the Saudis and the Qatars?
And then let's remember about the US and British proxies.

[Revolver]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Quote: Nagan

IRGC or their proxies around the world

You do not confuse them with the Saudis and the Qatars?
And then let's remember about the US and British proxies.

Well, at least read this.
https://mignews.com/news/politic/060121_162213_76029.html
In Iran from afar law about the destruction of Israel. Even Hitler's Germany did not sink to such baseness, the "final solution of the Jewish question" was adopted at a meeting of the leaders in a narrow circle, but it was not dragged through the Reichstag.
I wonder how the pro-Iranian clicks here on the site would react if America or Israel adopted a law on the destruction of Iran? By the way, neither Israel nor America even talks about the destruction of Iran, the maximum is about changing the regime, although even Israel has the potential to "glaze" Iran, and America is generally capable of turning its territory into a strait between the Caspian Sea and the Persian Gulf.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Nagan

Iran passed a law to destroy Israel.

Your level is below the baseboard, excuse me. You do not understand the difference between "make a law", "pass a law" and "put forward a bill." And here is from the text not of a bill, no, but a Jewish source:

One of the provisions obliges the government to take steps to "destroy Israel by March 2041."

The only concrete steps the bill calls for in relation to Israelare efforts to lift Israel's partial blockade of the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip "by sending essential goods from official naval bases to Gaza in exchange for money or for free" and efforts to promote the "right of return" through whom the descendants of Palestinian Arab refugees will destroy Israel demographically.

Here you are a stupid, but very squeaky character.

[svp67]

According to the minister, the amount of compensation has not yet been determined, and Kiev has not received any official offers from Tehran.

So far Iran has stated that INSURERS will make payments, and Iran will compensate them for all costs ...

[Avior]

Clearly, she doesn't want to pay.
The amounts of insurers are much lower than the state ones, which usually pay in such cases, Iran itself received such payments for the Iranian plane shot down by the Americans, so it knows this very well

[Revolver]

By the way, did the country 404 pay for the Tu-154 they shot down over the Black Sea? And if so, how much for each person killed?

[Avior]

... Pursuant to the Claims Settlement Agreement signed between Russia and Ukraine on December 26, 2003, the Ukrainian government transferred $ 7 to pay the relatives of the Russian passengers who died. The payment of compensation was carried out ex gratia, that is, without recognition of legal responsibility [809]. Relatives of Israeli passengers were paid $ 660 million. [54]

That is, Ukraine paid about 200 thousand dollars for each person who died without a legal admission of guilt; they paid the same amount to the citizens of Israel as to Russia.
At one time, the Americans paid for the downed Iranian liner in the same way, and on the same conditions, without admitting guilt, although the amounts there varied somewhat in agreement with Iran, from $ 300 to $ 150 thousand for the deceased, the average amount was also more than $ 200 thousand, 60 million for 250 deaths

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Nagan

how much for each person killed?

Paid on ex gratia terms to Israel 7,5 Llamas of Baku, Russia 7,809. Those. 200 thousand each

[military_cat]

If they talked in advance to compensate insurers for expenses, then this may not give the expected result - there will be no sense and incentive for insurers to fight to reduce the amount of payments. And if they have a fixed percentage of the volume for mediation, then it may even turn out that it is more profitable for them to overestimate the amount of compensation.

[Avior]

They cannot pay more than in the policy and the amounts there are much lower than those accepted for such situations.
If it were so easy with the insurers, they would have paid long ago.
Insurers may not be sure they will get their money. Again, does insurance cover this situation? This is not an accident.

[common man]

For VnaU in this situation, apparently, the most important thing is the magic word, compensation.

[Avior]

Killed citizens of different countries, in addition to the citizens of Iran itself
The states, whose citizens were killed, except Iran, of course, transferred the authority to negotiate with Iran on compensation and other things to Ukraine.
I think the most serious problem will be for compensation for the plane, for the passengers and crew who died, they will probably pay for it, although they may try to bring down the cost
But there are international contenders on account of such cases, including the case with the Iranian plane, so it will not be possible to shoot down much

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: Avior

I think the most serious problem will be for compensation for the plane, for the passengers and crew who died, they will probably pay for it, although they may try to bring down the cost

There is most likely a plane separately, victims separately. Judging by the behavior of Iran, there will be no problems: the plane clearly belongs to a large leasing operator, which means it is insured by an equally large insurer. Country 404 has an indirect relationship to this.

[evgen1221]

Wanguyu that wait, the Ukrainians will roll out claims to Iran in comments and corrections for half of Iran's GDP. Yak so, tse take a freebie, and the godfather covers-nada to tear)))

[Linxs]

Quote: evgen1221

Wanguyu that wait, the Ukrainians will roll out claims to Iran in comments and corrections for half of Iran's GDP. Yak so, tse take a freebie, and the godfather covers-nada to tear)))

There is only a crew of Ukrainians.
All the rest, almost all, are citizens of Iran and Canada.
167 passengers.

Among the dead passengers there are only two citizens of Ukraine - Olga Kobuk, born in 1958 and Elena Malakhova, born in 1981.

In addition, according to UIA, nine crew members of the airliner - three pilots (Alexei Naumkin, Vladimir Gaponenko and Sergey Khomenko) and six flight attendants (Ekaterina Statnik, Igor Matykov, Maria Mikityuk, Denis Lykhno, Valeria Ovcharuk and Yulia Sologub) were killed in the plane crash. ...

[aszzz888]

This is a fairly important stage for further movement forward, without which it would be impossible to achieve compensation and general justice

- said the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Dmitry Kuleba.

And when the Ukrainians shot down the Tu-154

The Ukrainian Armed Forces shot a passenger Tu-154. On October 4, 2001, Ukraine shot down a Russian Tu-154M passenger plane over the Black Sea ....

the then prezik unnecessary Kuchma said like "it does not happen to anyone" ... and now they are talking about "justice".

[venik]

"....Kuleba I refuse name the estimated amount of compensation, but earlier the media wrote that Iran is ready to pay 150 thousand dollars for each person killed in a plane crash. ......... Iran admitted that the plane was shot down by the air defense forces of the republic by mistake. The parties are currently continuing negotiations by the amount of compensation for the downed plane... .... "
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Something tells me that the final amount will be "classified", and the relatives of those killed in this tragedy (in any case, the Ukrainians) will receive, at best half amounts, and at worst - and in general "half arm".... Too're coming out, officials are accustomed to steal and profit from everything and everyone, even from human tragedies!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: venik

Something tells methat the final amount will be "classified", and the relatives of those killed in this tragedy (in any case, the Ukrainians) will receive at best half the amount, and at worst - just half a hand ... officials are accustomed to stealing and profiting from everything and everyone, even from human tragedies!

Considering that since February of this year. Ukraine should start paying off its debt to the IMF, I believe you are right. The crediting of the transferred money to the accounts of the victims will be stretched as long as possible, if at all reach the recipients, because since 2014 this territorial misunderstanding has existed outside the constitutional field, that is, outside the law.

[venik]

Quote: Nyrobsky

Considering that since February of this year. Ukraine should start paying off its debt to the IMF, I believe you are right. The crediting of the transferred money to the accounts of the victims will be stretched as long as possible, if at all reach the recipients, because since 2014 this territorial misunderstanding has existed outside the constitutional field, that is, outside the law.

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Interestingly, WHO is "throwing slippers"? I suppose the "ukropatriots" pulled themselves together?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: venik

Interestingly, WHO is "throwing slippers"? I suppose the "ukropatriots" pulled themselves together?

Representatives of the "skip-flop" tribe are not asleep and zealously minus "aggressors" who do not agree with the flawed result of their "light and progressive" revolution. Let them console themselves with that.

[fa2998]

Quote: Nagan

Iran is an even more vile misunderstanding

Iran (Persia) is the first civilization on Earth. They built stone palaces and invented writing 7 thousand years ago. This is where the real Sumerians lived, and in your territory monkeys were jumping on trees.

[venik]

Quote: fa2998

Iran (Persia) is the first civilization on Earth.

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Alas! NOT the first! The first is considered to be the Sumerian civilization, which arose between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers (on the territory of modern Iraq)!
Persia arose somewhat later! Although all this is somewhat arbitrary ...
In fact, Persians and Persia are ONE of the ANCIENT civilizations. It seems to me to say SO - it would be more correct!
PS By the way, I have a cat - персидский! And, by the way, HE is very handsome and firmly convinced that he has very good ancient lineage!
PPS Smile! Happy Holidays! And Happy New Year (already) and Merry Christmas!

[fa2998]

Vladimir, but he spoke about the Sumerians above. This is the valley of the modern river. Shatt al-Arab is part of Iraq, Kuwait and Iran. And you a Happy Holidays!

[venik]

Quote: fa2998

Vladimir, but he spoke about the Sumerians above. This is the valley of the modern river. Shatt al-Arab is part of Iraq, Kuwait and Iran. And you a Happy Holidays!

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Well, somewhere like this .... Sorry for my photo home Persian I never "pulled myself up" ....
Well, I treat real Persians in two ways: on the one hand, I respect very much, and on the other, I am a little afraid (this does not apply to my cat!) ......
Very difficult people! And controversial .....

[askort154]

Iran admitted that the plane was shot down by the air defense forces of the republic by mistake. The parties are currently continuing negotiations on the amount of compensation for the downed plane.

Iran realized that these were the same "ears" as with the downed MH-17. And here and there Ukraine appears. She is fashionable in current MEDIA. It's just that more modern technologies were applied over Iran. It was at this time that 6 F-35s were "patrolling" near the border with Iran. This was announced by our Foreign Ministry. Lavrov does not throw words to the wind. The failure of all airport radars and air defenses in the Tehran area became the basis for the plane crash. Prove it to ICAO,
Nobody will allow Iran. As it has not been allowed for 6 years, to voice the true cause of the disaster of flight MH-17 over Ukraine.