Ukraine will buy Turkish drones "Bayraktar" for its Navy

Produced in Turkey Drones are already in service with the Armed Forces. And this year Ukraine will buy Turkish drones "Bayraktar" and for their Navy.

The commander of the Ukrainian Naval Forces Oleksiy Neizhpapa told about this.

For use in the Black Sea and Azov operational zones, Bayraktar will have improved tactical and technical characteristics, for example, an increased flight range.

- Neizhpapa said.

He also said that the Ukrainian military fleet plans to use Turkish UAVs to monitor the surface situation, as well as to support the actions of the Ukrainian Navy on the coast and at sea.

The commander of the naval forces also said that Kiev had managed to agree on organizing the production of Turkish corvettes of the ADA type on the territory of Ukraine. He noted that access to them will allow Ukrainian shipbuilding enterprises to gain access to the standards that are used in NATO when creating warships. Neizhpapa said that corvettes will begin to be built in Turkey, and the completion of construction will take place at Ukrainian shipyards.

Not long before that, in December, Ukraine agreed with Ankara on transferring technologies for the production of Bayraktar unmanned aerial vehicles to it.

Comments

[APASUS]

The commander of the naval forces also said that Kiev had managed to agree on organizing the production of Turkish corvettes of the ADA type on the territory of Ukraine.

I don’t understand what has changed. They agreed with the Turks on the production of Turkish corvettes of the ADA type, and for the completion of their corvette they collected 5 hryvnias from all over the country and did not complete it. What has changed, the money has ceased to steal or the economy has been raised?

[The leader of the Redskins]

I agree, the situation is not clear. Maybe Erdogan promised to finance the construction of projects of Turkish corvettes? Well, how are the British with their boats?

[OgnennyiKotik]

Naturally there is a loan. There is no technology to finish building your own. They are talking about this, they want to get these technologies from the Turks.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Not a fact - "Vladimir" was built according to the classic technologies worked out even during the Soviet Union. And for Nikolaev, the city of shipbuilders, in general, "seeds".
Once upon a time I read one article, so Gunpowder simply "drowned" the plant where the corvette was being built - there the owner was a political opponent of the then president (I do not remember the name). So for five years, at least, Poroshenko "ate". This is the kind of president he was ...

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

There is no technology to finish building your own.

Yeah, right now! A penny is dumb, not "technology". Where did they go, technology? Decommunized, shto la?

[Giant thought]

All, or almost all, of these acquisitions, Ukraine will receive through borrowing funds, i.e. on credit. These funds will be allocated to them, there is no doubt, by Western financial organizations controlled by the United States, because these weapons will be directed against Russia, which is like a balm to mattresses. And our leadership needs to keep in mind that the United States will at one moment force Ukraine to fight with Russia, and we will need to be ready for such a turn of events.

[hagen]

Quote: Thought Giant

The United States at one point will force Ukraine to fight with Russia

As an option of possible actions, maybe. And most likely, this is the sale of its illiquid assets and the complete enslaving dependence of the country's economy in order to physically acquire it into the ownership of American TNCs. The fact is that everyone, especially the American military, who managed to work with the ukrovoyaks, understands very well that only a part of the National Battalions will actually fight. The rest will give up so that we will not have time to prepare camps for them. Even a normal person will think three times about going to certain death, and even the one to whom his shirt is closer to the body, in accordance with mental traditions, even more so. More possible, I think, will be border provocations, and even then until we stop patting them on the head, as near Kerch. The very first boat, sunk together with the crew in our territorial waters, or their armed group crossing the border covered by artillery fire, will bring them to their senses without trying to take them "alive". I think so.

[Starover_Z]

Ukraine will buy Turkish drones "Bayraktar" for its Navy

Buy, buy. They will fly, we will listen, watch, study.
After all, you need to know the enemy by sight!

[hagen]

Quote: Starover_Z

They will fly, we will listen, watch, study.

We have plenty of scrap metal and plastic from Syria. There, 20 of them have already "landed". So, we already have everything that interests our respective persons.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Hagen

We have plenty of scrap metal and plastic from Syria. There, 20 of them have already "landed". So, we already have everything that interests our respective persons.

So here it is closer, fresher and you can land, if possible, right to yourself!

[user1212]

Quote: Thought Giant

These funds will be allocated to them, there is no doubt, Western financial organizations controlled by the United States, because these weapons will be directed against Russia, which is like a balm to mattresses

But the United States has imposed an embargo on the supply of engines for Turkish UAVs (they, as you know, are never Turkish) and, in general, relations with Turkey have been spoiled. International financiers would sponsor the purchase of weapons from the US or the EU, but not from Turkey, and the US and EU do not want to supply combat drones to Ukraine, because Moscow's response will be obvious. They don't need such a turn.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Thought Giant

The United States at one point will force Ukraine to fight with Russia

If in Ukraine they think that looking at the actions of Azerbaijan in Karabakh, they are worth something, they are deeply mistaken. To me, too, they frightened the hedgehog with a bare spot. Russia is not Armenia, and with its air defense systems, these Turkish drones are like seeds. Very comfortable targets. In the event of a conflict, Ukraine will lose them in the very first minutes.

[svp67]

Quote: APASUS

What has changed, have they stopped stealing money or raised the economy?

Not that and not the other ... Just the fact that they decided to buy ships from Turkey suggests the opposite ... Now they have a scandal there with a "saw cut" in the construction of roads, which are carried out exclusively by Turkish companies ...

[Crimean partisan 1974]

on the construction of roads, which are carried out exclusively by Turkish companies ... the Turks also rowed amber deposits as well as alumina for nickel extraction .... fun there

[Undecim]

alumina for nickel recovery
There is no nickel in alumina. Aluminum is extracted from alumina.
The Turks did not scoop up any amber deposits.
on road construction carried out exclusively by Turkish companies ...
The roads are being built by Ukrainian, Polish, Belarusian and even Azerbaijani companies.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

The roads are being built by Ukrainian, Polish, Belarusian and even Azerbaijani companies.
.... it's you telling your friends every day !!!! ... it's commendable .... keep it up .... the main thing is that you and your friends wipe their ass for the next Turkish-Polish race ... but about Belarusians and Iizerstan really laughed at me ... but I didn't bring the slow-moving Balts !!!! ... strange

[Undecim]

You should learn your native language, for a start. And to be rude to unlearn, the daughter of the Crimean partisan.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

You should learn your native language .... be glad that it is forbidden to express yourself in a capacious and meaningful way ...... otherwise you would measure yourself .... Duc what is there with the Balts ... ... and you missed them ... so I asked about the Balts ... and there is no rudeness in my words ... there is only noodles of your production that you are trying to hang on to others ... daughter-in-law's daughter undecum

[Undecim]

.... and so we would measure ourselves ..
Excluded. Interaction with such toxic individuals should be minimized and carried out only in case of urgent need. Therefore - all the best and success in mastering literary speech.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

the same to you ... good luck with your sales

[donavi49]

Well, you can do BB for another 100 years. Crafts objectively cannot. And the price will be about Zumwalt.

And then they took a serial corvette with transparent terms. By the way, the face is not clear yet.

It can be Turkish:

Or updated, as they sold to Pakistan with a VPU for 16 missiles.

[figwam]

He also said that the Ukrainian navy plans to use Turkish UAVs

Due to the lack of money for the purchase or creation of ships, the commander of a non-existent fleet will buy drones, a priceless idea, it is also cheaper)

[Cron]

What has changed, have they stopped stealing money or raised the economy?

Ahahah)))) Well, you bent it. Money is just sawing, changing methods. On fictitious tenders for the construction of roads and bridges, the Turks also mostly win.
Recently, another $ 3 billion from Russia flew in, while our brothers are chic

[askort154]

While we are helping to push the Kurds away from the Turkish border, Erdogan brazenly climbed into Azeybarjan and Ukraine.
But the USSR clearly held the Turks by the beard, actively supporting the Kurds.

[fetus]

not entirely correct comparison .. The USSR not only "clearly kept the Turks by the beard" but also kept the entire NATO bloc at bay.

[air defense]

After Stalin, the USSR did not keep anyone in fear, perhaps like a monkey with a grenade. The United States and NATO understood perfectly well that the USSR would not be the first to attack, and they also saw a growing lump of internal economic problems.

[Cyril G ...]

In that tangle of problems, economic problems were secondary. The critical thing was not understanding what to do now and unwillingness to follow Stalin's path.
Still remember who killed the artels and individual farmers engaged in consumer goods.
The party "Elite" wanted to drink sweetly and eat deliciously and to command people without any responsibility for what was entrusted. Well, in general, it happened.

[askort154]

janin .....not quite correct comparison .. The USSR not only "clearly held the Turks by the beard" but also kept the entire NATO bloc at bay.

I wrote not about the relationship between the NATO bloc and the USSR, but specifically about the relationship between neighboring states, the USSR and Turkey. Turkey has been and remains the most audacious and powerful enemy of Russia of all European NATO members. But the strong trump card of the USSR - the Kurdish (PKK), which had a lot of weight in the internal politics of Turkey (this was a powerful 5th column), now we are helping Erdogan completely crush it. And what do we get in return ?! That's all the "correctness" of the question.

[Zaurbek]

Times have changed ...... There were not so many ties with the Turks as now. Now there are no unequivocal enemies like the capitalists and communists. And there is not so much free money.

[Mavrikiy]

Ukraine will buy Turkish drones "Bayraktar" for its Navy

Wow, a new word in naval tactics?

For use in the Black Sea and Azov operational zones, Bayraktar will have improved tactical and technical characteristics, for example, an increased flight range, '' Neizhpapa said.

Increased the range, all other performance characteristics will collapse, because increasing the range by 100 km is nothing.

[Cyril G ...]

Unfortunately, the solution is quite adequate. Bayraktars will perform a search, find and issue control commands for coastal anti-ship missiles and we will ogreb, in the case of a border ship or boat, they will quite effectively disable it or sink it with their MAM-L ... Our silly admirals need long-range sea reconnaissance and issue control commands for SSGN, NK and SHA fundamentally ignore ...

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Unfortunately, the solution is quite adequate. Bayraktars will carry out a search, find and give out a control center for coastal anti-ship missiles and we will ogreb, in the case of a border ship or boat, they will quite effectively incapacitate or sink it ...

UAVs for ground forces and the IMF are completely different. Half of the apparatus for the Navy must be made of stainless steel, the second of plastic. Increased the flight range, reduced the payload, reduced the capabilities of the UAV (reconnaissance, communications, weapons).

[The eye of the crying]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Half of the apparatus for the Navy must be made of stainless steel, the second of plastic.

What for? At an altitude of 8 km, conditions are the same over the sea and over land, and the UAV will be based on the coast.

[OgnennyiKotik]

They are waiting for Bayraktary TB2S. They are equipped with a new engine, radar, satellite communications and a more advanced optics-electronic system. Considering the size of the theater, more than enough.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Bayraktars will search, find and give out control units for coastal anti-ship missiles and we will ogreb, but in the case of a border ship or boat, they will quite effectively disable it or sink it with their MAM-L ....... this is a scenario in the style of the dead Klensi .. .. reconnaissance is carried out with the help of satellites .... and everything else is little things that are easily eliminated

[hagen]

Quote: Cyril G ...

Bayraktars will search, find and issue control commands for coastal anti-ship missiles and we will ogreb

Do you really believe that Ukraine is ready to declare a real war on us? It seems to me that you yourself have not gone far from the level of your assessment of the abilities of our admirals. In reality, you are not even in the horizon from them.

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Hagen

Do you really believe that Ukraine is ready to declare a real war on us?

Of course. What the Kiev organized criminal group will order in Washington will do. Only declaring war is not fashionable. It will take a hot US war. She will be. Don't even try to doubt. They will begin to strike at our territory on the increase. But what we will do in such a situation is an interesting question, given that they will strenuously begin to accuse us of everything, fundamentally ignoring the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other gangs.

you yourself are not far from the level of your assessment of the abilities of our admirals. In reality, you are not even in the horizon from them.

Everything is exactly the opposite, but I don’t deprive you of the right to jump and shuffle!
By the way, about the admirals - how will you find an effective naval reconnaissance in the Navy capable of issuing CUs to NK, APKR, BRAV, anti-torpedoes on nuclear submarines - and it is there that they are needed as air, tests of minesweepers for explosion resistance, ice torpedo firing in our fleet, prepared for massive HPO and the combat operations of the air group on our only aircraft carrier, I will listen with pleasure and we will determine who is on the horizon and who is bubbling in the cesspool. In the meantime, if I see a pompous admiral's mug bleating what an excellent fleet we have, I know who our enemy of the people is.

[hagen]

Quote: Cyril G ...

In the meantime, if I see a pompous admiral's murlo, I know who our enemy of the people is.

Why aren't you an admiral if you are smarter than them?

[Cyril G ...]

That is, you have nothing to argue in essencesince you switched to my humble personality? Don't worry about me - my health failed me after one incident at sea. But I left well, everything to the maximum. And I have no talent for admiralty either. For the back is not flexible and the tongue is not rough, but there are already two Rear Admirals in my classmates. But I will not specifically discuss their persons. They have not yet been noticed in carrying delirium.

[hagen]

Quote: Cyril G ...

That is, you have nothing to argue once you switched to my modest personality?

No, I just don't want to engage in sterile polemics. We will not prove anything to each other due to lack of access to the discussed information. And I'm not going to worry about you. All our taxi drivers are ready to take the post of prime minister even tomorrow. I asked, you answered. I understood everything and do not make claims / do not give advice ...

[Cyril G ...]

Quote: Hagen

No, I just don't want to engage in sterile polemics. We will not prove anything to each other due to lack of access to the discussed information.

You will not believe how much really secret information is lying around in the public domain, but how much garbage is thoroughly secretly secret. And even more so, I somehow know, unlike you, how it is there in the Navy in reality.

Quote: Hagen

And I'm not going to worry about you

This can not but rejoice ...

[user1212]

Quote: Hagen

Why aren't you an admiral if you are smarter than them?

He has no time, he taxis

[Cyril G ...]

Said an explicit toilet washer. Taxer not when to write comments, he earns money

[no better place for]

They will increase the range due to satellite communications instead of a terrestrial antenna

[Dmitry Makarov]

The main thing in Donbass is not to use them, otherwise they will disgrace themselves again and humiliate Turkish airplanes.

[Vadim_888]

... The main thing in Donbass is not to use them, otherwise they themselves will disgrace themselves again, and Turkish airplanes will humiliate

Are there already trained specialists in Donbass with tori, shells and rail systems?

[Vasya Zyuzkin]

They are in the Rostov region.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

each bayroktar will have Verba in the liver ... the DNR will treat you ... along the way, Armenian mediocrity is a legend ..... however, the shota neizhpapu forgot how many lumps of non-drunk VSvnau lay in the open spaces of the LDNR ...

[hagen]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

to each bayroktar on Verba in the liver ..

Bayraktar has a ceiling of 8200 m, Verba hits at 3500 (target height). There you need something like a nail from the shell.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Bayraktar has a ceiling of 8200 m, ..... well, it is 6200 m above sea level without load .... with a load, it is in the affected area of ​​any type of MANPADS ....

[hagen]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

well, wax is 6200 m above sea level without load .... with load it is in the affected area of ​​any type of MANPADS ...

Where did the firewood come from? All resources in the trash can say exactly 8200 .....

[Dart2027]

Taking into account the Ukrainian realities, it can be assumed that after some time absolutely new samples of the Bayraktar UAV will appear in the Russian Federation for study.

[donavi49]

Have they been in operation for two years now and have many appeared?

I am already silent about Libya / Syria / Iraq where they fly constantly.

Well, and most importantly, what can you find interesting there? Rotax912? So you can buy it on Aliexpress. Glider - so it is not useful in any way, if you do not make a 1-in-1 clone. Layout solutions, perhaps. The complete set - this way it is easier to get it without the UAV (probably, if the Ministry of Defense sends a request to Selzhuk, he will merge all the specifications himself).

[Dart2027]

Quote: donavi49

Have they been in operation for two years now and have many appeared?

They won't tell us this, but knowing what the APU has turned into as a result, what else can they do with them? Only sell.

[Vadim237]

It is interesting to find it by our radars, both mobile and as part of various air defense systems at different altitudes.

[Free Island]

In Karabakh, they found and dropped. For this reason they stopped flying there abruptly

[72jora72]

In Karabakh, they found and dropped. For this reason they stopped flying there abruptly

And after three days they began to fly again, apparently they picked up the "key" ...

[Free Island]

Ten maydanut pans were disliked

[Mavrikiy]

And this year, Ukraine will buy Turkish drones "Bayraktar" for its own Navy.

Great mind. Six months later, he will throw them in the trash. Corrosion will eat them up.

for example, increased flight range.
- Neizhpapa said.

More gasoline?

Payload: up to 150 kg of payload, including 55 kg - a standard module of the electro-optical surveillance system and laser target designation

Yes, here "either a cross or cowards" at 150 kg will have to abandon missiles, and the weight of communication devices will increase (range).
It looks like Izhpapa.

[xomaNN]

Well, yes, and then the Armed Forces of Ukraine will buy this too .... Yes, even for meager pensions. the fund is chronically short of money. So only if a few million uk..r. to spread pence to cemeteries with hearses and not pay money, then buy corvettes ...

[Reserve buildbat]

"Neizhpapa said that corvettes will begin to be built in Turkey, and the completion of construction will take place at Ukrainian shipyards."
That is, the Turks will build, and the skakuas will paint

[Russia]

Semi-finished products will be dragged along the bottom, on ropes.

[Reserve buildbat]

I mean, stretch the admirals under the keel? Good business.

[hagen]

He also said that the Ukrainian military fleet plans to use Turkish UAVs to monitor the surface situation, as well as to support the actions of the Ukrainian Navy on the coast and at sea.

While it is still possible to use Bayraktar (obviously TB2) for monitoring, it seems to me that it is extremely problematic to support the Ukrainian Navy. Firstly, it is impossible to hang anything serious from the means of destruction of surface targets on this device. Its carrying capacity is about 150 kg, together with surveillance and target designation systems. Those. for the rocket itself, less than 100 kg remains. Perhaps a couple of ATGMs. Secondly, only one UAV - about $ 5 million (the system in a complex of three or four UAVs + ground control point is about 60 million). Thirdly, today for our air defense systems this expensive toy is not a difficult target either to detect or destroy. I think this is another stupid waste of budget money, especially meaningless, that the country needs even simple storage facilities for the grown crop today. A "potato-onion" crisis is approaching the country, and they have some kind of nonsense in their heads.

[Lord of the Sith]

UAVs will not help them, we have powerful air defense in Donbass)))

For use in the Black Sea and Azov operating zone

And Russia is even better in those places. So Don't_bite_batya can sit on the priest exactly))

[Lord of the Sith]

Velikoukry minus)))

Go pigs)))
You are raging here, and we multiply by zero Bandera in Donbass))

[RUSS]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

UAVs will not help them, we have powerful air defense in Donbass)))

Is this the air defense that you shot down the Boeing with?

[Free Island]

Who are you? Have you personally been a witness? Or are you just grunting from under the pan?

[RUSS]

Quote: Free Island

Who are you?

Separs

[Lord of the Sith]

You are a Bandera.

Because the separatists, as you say, do not call themselves that.

[RUSS]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

You are a Bandera.

as you already tired with your Bandera and other garbage. Your Ukraine is already tired too.

Quote: Lord of the Sith

Because the separatists, as you say, do not call themselves that.

Well, what else to call them? Fighters for independence and freedom? They are separatists as they are.

[Lord of the Sith]

Bandera Ukraine is yours, my Motherland is Russia.

[Lord of the Sith]

Who are you? Velikokry? Well, I'm a Russian, not a Bandera, and the Russians don't shoot at civilian planes, unlike the grunting Tseuropeans.

[Ros 56]

Yeah, if all Ukrainians sit on the porch to beg for alms.

[Botanologist]

Another attempt to acquire a superweapon. The Javelins somehow did not help, we need Bayraktars.

[Russia]

Well, of course. Sun, air and earth are their best friends. It remains for them as in a song, fly to the sun and return home soon.

[Russia]

Vinaigrette in the heads and porridge at the exit.

[Guru]

Not long before that, in December, Ukraine agreed with Ankara on transferring technologies for the production of Bayraktar unmanned aerial vehicles to it.

Interestingly, the engines on the Ukrainian UAVs will also be Canadian Rotax 912. But Turkey seems to be under sanctions, which means that the Turks will sell their engines, an interesting question arises "What is the reliability of the new Turkish engines?"

[Avior]

If the uavs are produced in Ukraine, then there will be no problems with Canadian engines

[garik77]

This year Ukraine begins to pay off the debt restructured in 2015. And so now it will be until 2040.
2021 sees the peak in external debt payments - a total of $ 15,6 billion, of which more than a quarter is interest.
So there will definitely not be money to buy anything. Plus, you need to take into account the "peculiarities" of the national economy, when corruption is present as an obligatory component.

[Free Island]

Ukraine has no money. Can only pay with the supply of prostitutes

[Moore]

Nda ... Turks, impudent, Americans - now everyone is ready to lend and arm Svidomo, if only Rasseyushka shit bohato and shvydko. But you could have slammed all this average big top six years ago ...
Again, the Russian soldier will have to fix the jambs of political intriguers ...

[garik77]

Turks? Come on! Everything will be there only for the grandmother. Erdogan himself is not in the best situation right now. But of course they can talk.
And the rest of the money is in no hurry to just throw it around

[garik77]

Oh, I see kakli appeared in the topic, minus, though they actively do not like it

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: garik77

Turks? Come on! Everything will be there only for the grandmother. Erdogan himself is not in the best situation right now. But of course they can talk.
And the rest of the money is in no hurry to just throw it around

I will honestly say, a good rehearsal for the air defense of the Russian Federation !!!!!!!!!

[Pamir]

The Turks, somehow too often work in opposition to the Russian Federation. Something goes too far Turkey.

[Free Island]

Well, we are waiting for the trophies. Our drones will intercept, plant, and Ukraine will be completely bankrupt

[Vlad Pervovich]

everyone hopes for a miracle weapon

[spectr]

Not long before that, in December, Ukraine agreed with Ankara on transferring technologies for the production of Bayraktar unmanned aerial vehicles to it.

How the Turks were not afraid, given how easy it is to buy and sell everything in Ukraine.