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Ukraine will buy Turkish drones "Bayraktar" for its Navy

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UAVs produced in Turkey are already in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine. And this year, Ukraine will buy Turkish drones "Bayraktar" for its own Navy.


The commander of the Ukrainian Naval Forces Oleksiy Neizhpapa told about this.

For use in the Black Sea and Azov operational zones, Bayraktar will have improved tactical and technical characteristics, for example, an increased flight range.

- Neizhpapa said.

He also said that the Ukrainian military fleet plans to use Turkish UAVs to monitor the surface situation, as well as to support the actions of the Ukrainian Navy on the coast and at sea.

The commander of the naval forces also said that Kiev had managed to agree on organizing the production of Turkish corvettes of the ADA type on the territory of Ukraine. He noted that access to them will allow Ukrainian shipbuilding enterprises to gain access to the standards that are used in NATO when creating warships. Neizhpapa said that corvettes will begin to be built in Turkey, and the completion of construction will take place at Ukrainian shipyards.

Not long before that, in December, Ukraine agreed with Ankara on transferring technologies for the production of Bayraktar unmanned aerial vehicles to it.
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  1. APASUS
    APASUS 4 January 2021 11: 16
    +6
    The commander of the naval forces also said that Kiev had managed to agree on organizing the production of Turkish corvettes of the ADA type on the territory of Ukraine.

    I don’t understand what has changed. They agreed with the Turks on the production of Turkish corvettes of the ADA type, and for the completion of their corvette they collected 5 hryvnias from all over the country and did not complete it. What has changed, the money has ceased to steal or the economy has been raised?
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 4 January 2021 11: 19
      +1
      I agree, the situation is not clear. Maybe Erdogan promised to finance the construction of projects of Turkish corvettes? Well, how are the British with their boats?
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 4 January 2021 11: 26
        -3
        Naturally there is a loan. There is no technology to finish building your own. They are talking about this, they want to get these technologies from the Turks.
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 4 January 2021 11: 54
          +1
          Not a fact - "Vladimir" was built according to the classic technologies worked out even during the Soviet Union. And for Nikolaev, the city of shipbuilders, in general, "seeds".
          Once upon a time I read one article, so Gunpowder simply "drowned" the plant where the corvette was being built - there the owner was a political opponent of the then president (I do not remember the name). So for five years, at least, Poroshenko "ate". This is the kind of president he was ...
        2. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 4 January 2021 15: 17
          +1
          Quote: OgnennyiKotik
          There is no technology to finish building your own.

          Yeah, right now! A penny is dumb, not "technology". Where did they go, technology? Decommunized, shto la?
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 4 January 2021 11: 28
      -1
      All, or almost all, of these acquisitions, Ukraine will receive through borrowing funds, i.e. on credit. These funds will be allocated to them, there is no doubt, by Western financial organizations controlled by the United States, because these weapons will be directed against Russia, which is like a balm to mattresses. And our leadership needs to keep in mind that the United States will at one moment force Ukraine to fight with Russia, and we will need to be ready for such a turn of events.
      1. Hagen
        Hagen 4 January 2021 11: 45
        +1
        Quote: Thought Giant
        The United States at one point will force Ukraine to fight with Russia

        As an option of possible actions, maybe. And most likely, this is the sale of its illiquid assets and the complete enslaving dependence of the country's economy in order to physically acquire it into the ownership of American TNCs. The fact is that everyone, especially the American military, who managed to work with the ukrovoyaks, understands very well that only a part of the National Battalions will actually fight. The rest will give up so that we will not have time to prepare camps for them. Even a normal person will think three times about going to certain death, and even the one to whom his shirt is closer to the body, in accordance with mental traditions, even more so. More possible, I think, will be border provocations, and even then until we stop patting them on the head, as near Kerch. The very first boat, sunk together with the crew in our territorial waters, or their armed group crossing the border covered by artillery fire, will bring them to their senses without trying to take them "alive". I think so.
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 4 January 2021 16: 48
          0
          Ukraine will buy Turkish drones "Bayraktar" for its Navy

          Buy, buy. They will fly, we will listen, watch, study.
          After all, you need to know the enemy by sight!
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 4 January 2021 16: 55
            +1
            Quote: Starover_Z
            They will fly, we will listen, watch, study.

            We have plenty of scrap metal and plastic from Syria. There, 20 of them have already "landed". So, we already have everything that interests our respective persons.
            1. Starover_Z
              Starover_Z 4 January 2021 18: 00
              0
              Quote: Hagen
              We have plenty of scrap metal and plastic from Syria. There, 20 of them have already "landed". So, we already have everything that interests our respective persons.

              So here it is closer, fresher and you can land, if possible, right to yourself!
        2. Intruder
          Intruder 4 January 2021 20: 53
          -1
          Even a normal person will think three times about going to certain death, and even the one to whom his shirt is closer to the body, in accordance with mental traditions, even more so.
          , just for the category: "cannon fodder" !? :)))
          The very first boat, sunk together with the crew in our territorial waters, or their armed group crossing the border covered with artillery fire, will bring them to their senses without trying to take them "alive". I think so.
          a bad option, again the sanctions will be thrown then, and there will be - a dollar over 100 rubles, why take such a risk? The people in the Russian Federation will clearly not appreciate these "all the news", during a pandemic and everything else, all the more so: "the sinking and destruction of Ukrainian-Europeans by the whole group"! :)))
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 4 January 2021 22: 18
            +2
            Quote: Intruder
            a bad option, again the sanctions will be thrown then, and there will be - a dollar over 100 rubles, why take such a risk?

            And without it they throw it ... Don't you believe? I'm sure they will find a reason. And so at least we will do the job, and we will show them that they can get something on occasion.
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 5 January 2021 00: 24
              +1
              Do not believe me?
              Well, why, you can believe in any option, you just don't want to multiply negative options :), somehow I think people are just already tired of such options for various sanctions, again we are confidently lagging behind in development from the rest of the world, and this is for the development of the country as a whole bad, whatever one may say ..., something similar took place in the 90s, alas and ah ... !!!
              1. Hagen
                Hagen 5 January 2021 08: 43
                +2
                Quote: Intruder
                Well, why, you can believe in any option, you just don't want to multiply negative options :)

                By responding with only notes of protest to provocations, we will not save ourselves from sanctions, but we will further aggravate our situation by instilling a sense of impunity in the heads of the opponents around us. Nevertheless, it must be stated that self-respect is caused by force, and not by reasoning about ephemeral justice and God's judgment.
                1. Intruder
                  Intruder 5 January 2021 09: 27
                  0
                  By responding with only notes of protest to provocations, we will not save ourselves from sanctions, but we will further aggravate our situation by instilling a sense of impunity in the heads of the opponents around us.
                  I agree!!!
                  Nevertheless, it must be stated that self-respect is caused by force, and not by reasoning about ephemeral justice and God's judgment.
                  but power is not a spherical something, it will not come from nowhere !? To create it, you need to have: resources, brains and time, and with this, not everything is rosy, in our time ... and sanctions, for example, increase the time to achieve the required level of strength (to be respected ...) and make you spend more resources, like example!
                  1. Hagen
                    Hagen 5 January 2021 09: 38
                    0
                    Quote: Intruder
                    she herself out of nowhere will not take !?

                    The power is there. We need political will.
                    Quote: Intruder
                    , and sanctions, for example, increase the time to reach the required level of strength (to be respected ...)

                    Russia and the Anglo-Saxon world are permanent geopolitical adversaries. Nothing will change this situation. Sanctions from them in our direction were, are and will be, regardless of our attitude towards them, and even more so from our attitude towards small mongrels on our borders. And if we, for example, in response to the ban on passing through Ukraine on their internal waters, close the passage through our territory by auto and railway transport, the sanctions policy of the West will not react in any way. They put pressure on us wherever possible and will continue to put pressure on us. Slowing down our achievement of their goals is their main goal, even if we keep silent all the way to the various provocations of our neighbors.
                    1. Intruder
                      Intruder 5 January 2021 14: 27
                      0
                      They put pressure on us wherever possible and will continue to put pressure on us. Slowing down our achievement of their goals is their main goal, even if we keep silent all the way to the various provocations of our neighbors.
                      right, if you constantly bother, then they will press :)) Gentlemen are used to negotiating "on the shore", or "in a restaurant", but the most important thing: to comply with these agreements, which, alas, is not yet, so they press .., with agreements dull, in compliance with them as well, so you have to wait, in this situation - sanctions and nothing more! :)))
                      1. Hagen
                        Hagen 5 January 2021 14: 34
                        0
                        Quote: Intruder
                        right, if you constantly disturb, then they will crush

                        We are bothering them with our mere presence.
                        Quote: Intruder
                        but most importantly: comply with these agreements

                        Can you tell us how Europe complies with the Groningen principle established by it in the execution of gas contracts? You do not seem to understand what you are talking about. request
                      2. Intruder
                        Intruder 5 January 2021 14: 42
                        0
                        The Groningen Principle in the Execution of Gas Contracts

                        And what is wrong with him, in Europe exactly ???:
                        Currently, the Groningen principle (also called the "Groningen system", "Groningen concept") is the most common pricing principle when concluding long-term gas contracts.
                        In modern practice, the Groningen concept of pricing in long-term gas contracts is as follows:
                        - The price of gas is tied to the cost of replacing it with alternative fuels (for example, oil, fuel oil) “on the burner” from the buyer.
                        - Regular (usually quarterly) price revisions within the contractual formula.
                        - Fixed volumes of gas choice by the buyer (take-or-pay principle). As a rule, a shortage of gas is allowed at the level of 20% of the annual contractual volume.
                        - Binding the contract to a specific point of reception / transmission.
                      3. Intruder
                        Intruder 5 January 2021 14: 46
                        0
                        You do not seem to understand what you are talking about.
                        maybe leave your speculation, otherwise this will be the first time I have in the new year, in which I will be forced to apply the following phrase, about: "do not tell a stranger what to do, and then he will not tell you where to go .. . "
                        Sincerely,
                      4. Hagen
                        Hagen 5 January 2021 15: 04
                        0
                        Quote: Intruder
                        maybe leave your speculations,

                        Well, of course .... I actually didn't ask about the content of the principle from VIKI. But you see, you don't know how European justice is considering these principles today. What do you think we have not observed?
  2. user1212
    user1212 4 January 2021 12: 41
    -1
    Quote: Thought Giant
    These funds will be allocated to them, there is no doubt, Western financial organizations controlled by the United States, because these weapons will be directed against Russia, which is like a balm to mattresses

    But the United States has imposed an embargo on the supply of engines for Turkish UAVs (they, as you know, are never Turkish) and, in general, relations with Turkey have been spoiled. International financiers would sponsor the purchase of weapons from the US or the EU, but not from Turkey, and the US and EU do not want to supply combat drones to Ukraine, because Moscow's response will be obvious. They don't need such a turn.
  3. orionvitt
    orionvitt 5 January 2021 14: 43
    0
    Quote: Thought Giant
    The United States at one point will force Ukraine to fight with Russia

    If in Ukraine they think that looking at the actions of Azerbaijan in Karabakh, they are worth something, they are deeply mistaken. To me, too, they frightened the hedgehog with a bare spot. laughing Russia is not Armenia, and with its air defense systems, these Turkish drones are like seeds. Very comfortable targets. In the event of a conflict, Ukraine will lose them in the very first minutes.
  • svp67
    svp67 4 January 2021 11: 29
    +1
    Quote: APASUS
    What has changed, have they stopped stealing money or raised the economy?

    Not that and not the other ... Just the fact that they decided to buy ships from Turkey suggests the opposite ... Now they have a scandal there with a "saw cut" in the construction of roads, which are carried out exclusively by Turkish companies ...
    1. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 4 January 2021 11: 45
      -8
      on the construction of roads, which are carried out exclusively by Turkish companies ... the Turks also rowed amber deposits as well as alumina for nickel extraction .... fun there
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 4 January 2021 12: 27
        +7
        alumina for nickel recovery
        There is no nickel in alumina. Aluminum is extracted from alumina.
        The Turks did not scoop up any amber deposits.
        on road construction carried out exclusively by Turkish companies ...
        The roads are being built by Ukrainian, Polish, Belarusian and even Azerbaijani companies.
        1. Crimean partisan 1974
          Crimean partisan 1974 4 January 2021 13: 38
          -9
          The roads are being built by Ukrainian, Polish, Belarusian and even Azerbaijani companies.
          .... it's you telling your friends every day !!!! ... it's commendable .... keep it up .... the main thing is that you and your friends wipe their ass for the next Turkish-Polish race ... but about Belarusians and Iizerstan really laughed at me ... but I didn't bring the slow-moving Balts !!!! ... strange
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 4 January 2021 13: 45
            +2

            You should learn your native language, for a start. And to be rude to unlearn, the daughter of the Crimean partisan.
            1. Crimean partisan 1974
              Crimean partisan 1974 4 January 2021 14: 00
              -15%
              You should learn your native language .... be glad that it is forbidden to express yourself in a capacious and meaningful way ...... otherwise you would measure yourself .... Duc what is there with the Balts ... ... and you missed them ... so I asked about the Balts ... and there is no rudeness in my words ... there is only noodles of your production that you are trying to hang on to others ... daughter-in-law's daughter undecum
              1. Undecim
                Undecim 4 January 2021 14: 15
                +7
                .... and so we would measure ourselves ..
                Excluded. Interaction with such toxic individuals should be minimized and carried out only in case of urgent need. Therefore - all the best and success in mastering literary speech.
                1. Crimean partisan 1974
                  Crimean partisan 1974 4 January 2021 14: 26
                  -12%
                  the same to you ... good luck with your sales
  • donavi49
    donavi49 4 January 2021 11: 35
    +6
    Well, you can do BB for another 100 years. Crafts objectively cannot. And the price will be about Zumwalt.

    And then they took a serial corvette with transparent terms. By the way, the face is not clear yet.

    It can be Turkish:



    Or updated, as they sold to Pakistan with a VPU for 16 missiles.
  • figwam
    figwam 4 January 2021 12: 03
    +1
    He also said that the Ukrainian navy plans to use Turkish UAVs

    Due to the lack of money for the purchase or creation of ships, the commander of a non-existent fleet will buy drones, a priceless idea, it is also cheaper)
  • Cron
    Cron 4 January 2021 14: 31
    -1
    What has changed, have they stopped stealing money or raised the economy?

    Ahahah)))) Well, you bent it. Money is just sawing, changing methods. On fictitious tenders for the construction of roads and bridges, the Turks also mostly win.
    Recently, another $ 3 billion from Russia flew in, while our brothers are chic
  • askort154
    askort154 4 January 2021 11: 16
    +2
    While we are helping to push the Kurds away from the Turkish border, Erdogan brazenly climbed into Azeybarjan and Ukraine.
    But the USSR clearly held the Turks by the beard, actively supporting the Kurds.
    1. fetus
      fetus 4 January 2021 11: 19
      +11
      not entirely correct comparison .. The USSR not only "clearly kept the Turks by the beard" but also kept the entire NATO bloc at bay.
      1. Airdefense
        Airdefense 4 January 2021 11: 39
        +1
        After Stalin, the USSR did not keep anyone in fear, perhaps like a monkey with a grenade. The United States and NATO understood perfectly well that the USSR would not be the first to attack, and they also saw a growing lump of internal economic problems.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 4 January 2021 11: 55
          +3
          In that tangle of problems, economic problems were secondary. The critical thing was not understanding what to do now and unwillingness to follow Stalin's path.
          Still remember who killed the artels and individual farmers engaged in consumer goods.
          The party "Elite" wanted to drink sweetly and eat deliciously and to command people without any responsibility for what was entrusted. Well, in general, it happened.
      2. askort154
        askort154 4 January 2021 11: 42
        +2
        janin .....not quite correct comparison .. The USSR not only "clearly held the Turks by the beard" but also kept the entire NATO bloc at bay.

        I wrote not about the relationship between the NATO bloc and the USSR, but specifically about the relationship between neighboring states, the USSR and Turkey. Turkey has been and remains the most audacious and powerful enemy of Russia of all European NATO members. But the strong trump card of the USSR - the Kurdish (PKK), which had a lot of weight in the internal politics of Turkey (this was a powerful 5th column), now we are helping Erdogan completely crush it. And what do we get in return ?! That's all the "correctness" of the question. hi
    2. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 4 January 2021 11: 20
      +1
      Times have changed ...... There were not so many ties with the Turks as now. Now there are no unequivocal enemies like the capitalists and communists. And there is not so much free money.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 4 January 2021 11: 18
    -8
    Ukraine will buy Turkish drones "Bayraktar" for its Navy
    belay Wow, a new word in naval tactics? repeat
    For use in the Black Sea and Azov operational zones, Bayraktar will have improved tactical and technical characteristics, for example, an increased flight range, '' Neizhpapa said.
    foolIncreased the range, all other performance characteristics will collapse, because increasing the range by 100 km is nothing.
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 4 January 2021 11: 23
      +8
      Unfortunately, the solution is quite adequate. Bayraktars will perform a search, find and issue control commands for coastal anti-ship missiles and we will ogreb, in the case of a border ship or boat, they will quite effectively disable it or sink it with their MAM-L ... Our silly admirals need long-range sea reconnaissance and issue control commands for SSGN, NK and SHA fundamentally ignore ...
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 4 January 2021 11: 34
        -7
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Unfortunately, the solution is quite adequate. Bayraktars will carry out a search, find and give out a control center for coastal anti-ship missiles and we will ogreb, in the case of a border ship or boat, they will quite effectively incapacitate or sink it ...
        belay
        UAVs for ground forces and the IMF are completely different. Half of the apparatus for the Navy must be made of stainless steel, the second of plastic. Increased the flight range, reduced the payload, reduced the capabilities of the UAV (reconnaissance, communications, weapons).
        1. The eye of the crying
          The eye of the crying 4 January 2021 13: 31
          +1
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Half of the apparatus for the Navy must be made of stainless steel, the second of plastic.


          What for? At an altitude of 8 km, conditions are the same over the sea and over land, and the UAV will be based on the coast.
      2. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 4 January 2021 11: 35
        +4
        They are waiting for Bayraktary TB2S. They are equipped with a new engine, radar, satellite communications and a more advanced optics-electronic system. Considering the size of the theater, more than enough.
      3. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 4 January 2021 11: 40
        -17%
        Bayraktars will search, find and give out control units for coastal anti-ship missiles and we will ogreb, but in the case of a border ship or boat, they will quite effectively disable it or sink it with their MAM-L ....... this is a scenario in the style of the dead Klensi .. .. reconnaissance is carried out with the help of satellites .... and everything else is little things that are easily eliminated
      4. Hagen
        Hagen 4 January 2021 12: 16
        +2
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Bayraktars will search, find and issue control commands for coastal anti-ship missiles and we will ogreb

        Do you really believe that Ukraine is ready to declare a real war on us? It seems to me that you yourself have not gone far from the level of your assessment of the abilities of our admirals. In reality, you are not even in the horizon from them. laughing
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 4 January 2021 12: 31
          -2
          Quote: Hagen
          Do you really believe that Ukraine is ready to declare a real war on us?


          Of course. What the Kiev organized criminal group will order in Washington will do. Only declaring war is not fashionable. It will take a hot US war. She will be. Don't even try to doubt. They will begin to strike at our territory on the increase. But what we will do in such a situation is an interesting question, given that they will strenuously begin to accuse us of everything, fundamentally ignoring the actions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and other gangs.

          you yourself are not far from the level of your assessment of the abilities of our admirals. In reality, you are not even in the horizon from them.


          Everything is exactly the opposite, but I don’t deprive you of the right to jump and shuffle!
          By the way, about the admirals - how will you find an effective naval reconnaissance in the Navy capable of issuing CUs to NK, APKR, BRAV, anti-torpedoes on nuclear submarines - and it is there that they are needed as air, tests of minesweepers for explosion resistance, ice torpedo firing in our fleet, prepared for massive HPO and the combat operations of the air group on our only aircraft carrier, I will listen with pleasure and we will determine who is on the horizon and who is bubbling in the cesspool. In the meantime, if I see a pompous admiral's mug bleating what an excellent fleet we have, I know who our enemy of the people is.
          1. Hagen
            Hagen 4 January 2021 12: 34
            0
            Quote: Cyril G ...
            In the meantime, if I see a pompous admiral's murlo, I know who our enemy of the people is.

            Why aren't you an admiral if you are smarter than them?
            1. Cyril G ...
              Cyril G ... 4 January 2021 12: 37
              +2
              That is, you have nothing to argue in essencesince you switched to my humble personality? Don't worry about me - my health failed me after one incident at sea. But I left well, everything to the maximum. And I have no talent for admiralty. For the back is not flexible and the tongue is not rough, but there are two Rear Admirals in my classmates. But I will not specifically discuss their persons. They have not yet been noticed in carrying delirium.
              1. Hagen
                Hagen 4 January 2021 12: 44
                +2
                Quote: Cyril G ...
                That is, you have nothing to argue once you switched to my modest personality?

                No, I just don't want to engage in sterile polemics. We will not prove anything to each other due to lack of access to the discussed information. And I'm not going to worry about you. All our taxi drivers are ready to take the post of prime minister even tomorrow. I asked, you answered. I understood everything and do not make claims / do not give advice ...
                1. Cyril G ...
                  Cyril G ... 4 January 2021 12: 47
                  0
                  Quote: Hagen
                  No, I just don't want to engage in sterile polemics. We will not prove anything to each other due to lack of access to the discussed information.

                  You will not believe how much really secret information is lying around in the public domain, but how much garbage is thoroughly secretly secret. And even more so, I somehow know, unlike you, how it is there in the Navy in reality.

                  Quote: Hagen
                  And I'm not going to worry about you

                  This can not but rejoice ...
            2. user1212
              user1212 4 January 2021 12: 50
              -1
              Quote: Hagen
              Why aren't you an admiral if you are smarter than them?

              He has no time, he taxis laughing
              1. Cyril G ...
                Cyril G ... 4 January 2021 13: 31
                0
                Said an explicit toilet washer. Taxer not when to write comments, he earns money
    2. no one
      no one 5 January 2021 00: 19
      0
      They will increase the range due to satellite communications instead of a terrestrial antenna
  • Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 4 January 2021 11: 19
    -2
    The main thing in Donbass is not to use them, otherwise they will disgrace themselves again and humiliate Turkish airplanes.
    1. Vadim_888
      Vadim_888 4 January 2021 11: 29
      +3
      ... The main thing in Donbass is not to use them, otherwise they themselves will disgrace themselves again, and Turkish airplanes will humiliate

      Are there already trained specialists in Donbass with tori, shells and rail systems?
      1. Vasya Zyuzkin
        Vasya Zyuzkin 4 January 2021 16: 02
        0
        They are in the Rostov region.
  • Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 4 January 2021 11: 24
    -16%
    each bayroktar will have Verba in the liver ... the DNR will treat you ... along the way, Armenian mediocrity is a legend ..... however, the shota neizhpapu forgot how many lumps of non-drunk VSvnau lay in the open spaces of the LDNR ...
    1. Hagen
      Hagen 4 January 2021 12: 09
      +3
      Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
      to each bayroktar on Verba in the liver ..

      Bayraktar has a ceiling of 8200 m, Verba hits at 3500 (target height). There you need something like a nail from the shell.
      1. Crimean partisan 1974
        Crimean partisan 1974 4 January 2021 13: 16
        -4
        Bayraktar has a ceiling of 8200 m, ..... well, it is 6200 m above sea level without load .... with a load, it is in the affected area of ​​any type of MANPADS ....
        1. Hagen
          Hagen 4 January 2021 13: 19
          +1
          Quote: Crimean partisan 1974
          well, wax is 6200 m above sea level without load .... with load it is in the affected area of ​​any type of MANPADS ...

          Where did the firewood come from? All resources in the trash can say exactly 8200 .....
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  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 4 January 2021 11: 37
    -10%
    Taking into account the Ukrainian realities, it can be assumed that after some time absolutely new samples of the Bayraktar UAV will appear in the Russian Federation for study.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 4 January 2021 11: 45
      +10
      Have they been in operation for two years now and have many appeared? wink






      I am already silent about Libya / Syria / Iraq where they fly constantly.

      Well, and most importantly, what can you find interesting there? Rotax912? So you can buy it on Aliexpress. Glider - so it is not useful in any way, if you do not make a 1-in-1 clone. Layout solutions, perhaps. The complete set - this way it is easier to get it without the UAV (probably, if the Ministry of Defense sends a request to Selzhuk, he will merge all the specifications himself).
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 4 January 2021 12: 17
        -2
        Quote: donavi49
        Have they been in operation for two years now and have many appeared?

        They won't tell us this, but knowing what the APU has turned into as a result, what else can they do with them? Only sell.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 5 January 2021 00: 42
        0
        It is interesting to find it by our radars, both mobile and as part of various air defense systems at different altitudes.
        1. Free Island
          Free Island 5 January 2021 07: 46
          0
          In Karabakh, they found and dropped. For this reason they stopped flying there abruptly
          1. 72jora72
            72jora72 5 January 2021 17: 45
            0
            In Karabakh, they found and dropped. For this reason they stopped flying there abruptly
            And after three days they began to fly again, apparently they picked up the "key" ...
    2. Free Island
      Free Island 5 January 2021 07: 47
      0
      Ten maydanut pans were disliked
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 4 January 2021 11: 49
    -11%
    And this year, Ukraine will buy Turkish drones "Bayraktar" for its own Navy.
    belay Great mind. fool Six months later, he will throw them in the trash. Corrosion will eat them up.
    for example, increased flight range.
    - Neizhpapa said.
    More gasoline? fool
    Payload: up to 150 kg of payload, including 55 kg - a standard module of the electro-optical surveillance system and laser target designation
    Yes, here "either a cross or cowards" at 150 kg will have to abandon missiles, and the weight of communication devices will increase (range). request
    It looks like Izhpapa. fool
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 4 January 2021 11: 55
    +1
    Well, yes, and then the Armed Forces of Ukraine will buy this too .... Yes, even for meager pensions. the fund is chronically short of money. So only if a few million uk..r. to spread pence to cemeteries with hearses and not pay money, then buy corvettes ... hi
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 4 January 2021 11: 59
    +1
    "Neizhpapa said that corvettes will begin to be built in Turkey, and the completion of construction will take place at Ukrainian shipyards."
    That is, the Turks will build, and the skakuas will paint laughing
    1. Russia
      Russia 4 January 2021 13: 03
      -1
      Semi-finished products will be dragged along the bottom, on ropes.
      1. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 4 January 2021 13: 30
        -1
        I mean, stretch the admirals under the keel? Good business.
  • Hagen
    Hagen 4 January 2021 12: 05
    0
    He also said that the Ukrainian military fleet plans to use Turkish UAVs to monitor the surface situation, as well as to support the actions of the Ukrainian Navy on the coast and at sea.

    While it is still possible to use Bayraktar (obviously TB2) for monitoring, it seems to me that it is extremely problematic to support the Ukrainian Navy. Firstly, it is impossible to hang anything serious from the means of destruction of surface targets on this device. Its carrying capacity is about 150 kg, together with surveillance and target designation systems. Those. for the rocket itself, less than 100 kg remains. Perhaps a couple of ATGMs. Secondly, only one UAV - about $ 5 million (the system in a complex of three or four UAVs + ground control point is about 60 million). Thirdly, today for our air defense systems this expensive toy is not a difficult target either to detect or destroy. I think this is another stupid waste of budget money, especially meaningless, that the country needs even simple storage facilities for the grown crop today. A "potato-onion" crisis is approaching the country, and they have some kind of nonsense in their heads.
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 4 January 2021 12: 23
    -2
    UAVs will not help them, we have powerful air defense in Donbass)))

    For use in the Black Sea and Azov operating zone

    And Russia is even better in those places. So Don't_bite_batya can sit on the priest exactly))
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 4 January 2021 12: 59
      -1
      Velikoukry minus)))

      Go pigs)))
      You are raging here, and we multiply by zero Bandera in Donbass))
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 4 January 2021 13: 48
      -3
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      UAVs will not help them, we have powerful air defense in Donbass)))

      Is this the air defense that you shot down the Boeing with?
      1. Free Island
        Free Island 5 January 2021 07: 43
        -1
        Who are you? Have you personally been a witness? Or are you just grunting from under the pan?
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 5 January 2021 15: 50
          0
          Quote: Free Island
          Who are you?

          Separs
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 6 January 2021 13: 14
            0
            You are a Bandera.

            Because the separatists, as you say, do not call themselves that.
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 6 January 2021 16: 45
              +1
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              You are a Bandera.

              laughing as you already tired with your Bandera and other garbage. Your Ukraine is already tired too.
              Quote: Lord of the Sith
              Because the separatists, as you say, do not call themselves that.

              Well, what else to call them? Fighters for independence and freedom? They are separatists as they are.
              1. Lord of the Sith
                Lord of the Sith 8 January 2021 15: 29
                0
                Bandera Ukraine is yours, my Motherland is Russia.
      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 5 January 2021 13: 53
        -2
        Who are you? Velikokry? Well, I'm a Russian, not a Bandera, and the Russians don't shoot at civilian planes, unlike the grunting Tseuropeans.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 January 2021 12: 32
    -1
    Yeah, if all Ukrainians sit on the porch to beg for alms. lol
  • Botanologist
    Botanologist 4 January 2021 12: 48
    +2
    Another attempt to acquire a superweapon. The Javelins somehow did not help, we need Bayraktars.
    1. Russia
      Russia 4 January 2021 13: 01
      0
      Well, of course. Sun, air and earth are their best friends. It remains for them as in a song, fly to the sun and return home soon.
  • Russia
    Russia 4 January 2021 12: 58
    -1
    Vinaigrette in the heads and porridge at the exit. yes
  • Guru
    Guru 4 January 2021 13: 08
    +1
    Not long before that, in December, Ukraine agreed with Ankara on transferring technologies for the production of Bayraktar unmanned aerial vehicles to it.
    Interestingly, the engines on the Ukrainian UAVs will also be Canadian Rotax 912. But Turkey seems to be under sanctions, which means that the Turks will sell their engines, an interesting question arises "What is the reliability of the new Turkish engines?"
    1. Avior
      Avior 6 January 2021 00: 37
      0
      If the uavs are produced in Ukraine, then there will be no problems with Canadian engines
  • garik77
    garik77 4 January 2021 14: 22
    -2
    This year Ukraine begins to pay off the debt restructured in 2015. And so now it will be until 2040.
    2021 sees the peak in external debt payments - a total of $ 15,6 billion, of which more than a quarter is interest.
    So there will definitely not be money to buy anything. Plus, you need to take into account the "peculiarities" of the national economy, when corruption is present as an obligatory component.
    1. Free Island
      Free Island 5 January 2021 07: 42
      0
      Ukraine has no money. Can only pay with the supply of prostitutes
  • Moore
    Moore 4 January 2021 14: 31
    +1
    Nda ... Turks, impudent, Americans - now everyone is ready to lend and arm Svidomo, if only Rasseyushka shit bohato and shvydko. But you could have slammed all this average big top six years ago ...
    Again, the Russian soldier will have to fix the jambs of political intriguers ...
    1. garik77
      garik77 4 January 2021 15: 42
      -3
      Turks? Come on! Everything will be there only for the grandmother. Erdogan himself is not in the best situation right now. But of course they can talk.
      And the rest of the money is in no hurry to just throw it around
      1. garik77
        garik77 5 January 2021 12: 07
        -1
        Oh, I see kakli appeared in the topic, minus, though they actively do not like it laughing
  • lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 4 January 2021 18: 47
    0
    Quote: garik77
    Turks? Come on! Everything will be there only for the grandmother. Erdogan himself is not in the best situation right now. But of course they can talk.
    And the rest of the money is in no hurry to just throw it around

    I will honestly say, a good rehearsal for the air defense of the Russian Federation !!!!!!!!!
  • Pamir
    Pamir 4 January 2021 22: 47
    +1
    The Turks, somehow too often work in opposition to the Russian Federation. Something goes too far Turkey.
  • Free Island
    Free Island 5 January 2021 07: 27
    -1
    Well, we are waiting for the trophies. Our drones will intercept, plant, and Ukraine will be completely bankrupt
  • Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 5 January 2021 11: 50
    +1
    everyone hopes for a miracle weapon
  • spectr
    spectr 5 January 2021 22: 20
    0
    Not long before that, in December, Ukraine agreed with Ankara on transferring technologies for the production of Bayraktar unmanned aerial vehicles to it.

    How the Turks were not afraid, given how easy it is to buy and sell everything in Ukraine.