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What are the US forces using microplanes for? And does Russia need them

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What are the US forces using microplanes for? And does Russia need them

The first Bede BD-5 micro aircraft was developed in the late 1960s in the United States by aircraft designer Jim Bede.


For a while, the project lived an unremarkable life, until the armed forces turned their close attention to it.

The fact is that in the era of missile technology development, the task of detecting and destroying low-flying, stealthy targets became more and more urgent.

As an imitation of such targets, special target missiles were used, but this solution had a number of significant disadvantages, the main one of which was the price - such a target was, in fact, disposable.

Modern options have the ability to land with a parachute, but there are no guarantees of maintaining the integrity of the aircraft. At the same time, testing new radar systems would ideally require a series of launches.

The second drawback was in the control system - the rocket could fly only according to a predetermined algorithm. More advanced orientation systems, in turn, led to an increase in the cost of such a target.

The cost of a microplane is extremely low, due to the maximum simplicity of the entire structure, which is clearly demonstrated in the illustration below.


The third vulnerability of target missiles is safety.

And this problem becomes more and more urgent over time, since the modern concept of war presupposes close interaction between various branches of the armed forces. And it would be nice to practice this interaction during training. But launching a conventional target missile at a training ground that is in fact densely packed with friendly forces can be extremely dangerous.

The use of a small jet aircraft, in turn, opens up truly tremendous opportunities - in one test session, you can simulate a large number of launches in a wide range of flight profiles. Changes can be made on the spot.

The plane itself is very small, undemanding to infrastructure and can be easily delivered to any place. The weight of the car is just over 1100 kg.


In one transport plane, you can transfer several of these machines at once and conduct training of air defense calculations throughout the country.

The advantages of such a solution are especially evident when simulating a salvo launch of cruise missiles.

Since Russia traditionally has a large number of developments in the field of air defense, the development of a domestic analogue of the American SMART-1 program is highly desirable, in view of the fact that it allows solving several problems at once:

- In the future, save money on the replacement of target missiles.

- Accelerate all air defense research.

- Will have a positive effect on the quality of personnel training.

The flight qualities of such a device allow simulating an almost complete set of flight modes: takeoff, climb, level flight, descent, turns, "snake", dive, pitching, diving with transfer to pitching, flight at low altitude.
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  1. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 6 January 2021 05: 39
    +3
    the target was essentially disposable.
    Is this Bede reusable?
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 6 January 2021 06: 18
      0
      winked something seems premature to me, for a runner to skate, on skates, a Russian boy, to ask such questions crying not?
      What are the US forces using microplanes for? And does Russia need them

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    2. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 6 January 2021 06: 34
      -2
      I understand it will be a MANNED target? Of course, there will not be PLANNED real launches / firing on it, but I would be afraid. laughing
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 6 January 2021 08: 40
        +9
        The plane is an interesting Bede BD-5 micro, which is described here. But they just forgot to mention that it was created as a device for mass use. Instead of a car. Its price was a little over 2000 dollars (in the 60s). In the 1970s, the company went bankrupt and only a few kits of aircraft were actually built. The BD-5 could travel over 1000 miles and reach speeds of over 200 mph with a 40 hp engine that only needed 400 feet to take off from the runway. The stall speed was 60 miles per hour. ps the resource from which the video was taken is very interesting.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 6 January 2021 08: 41
          0
          Quote: mirag2
          the resource where the video was taken from is very interesting.

          Thank you, but there isn't much time to watch the video.
        2. mirag2
          mirag2 6 January 2021 08: 46
          +4
          Jet BEDE also appeared in two James Bond films.
        3. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 7 January 2021 00: 08
          +1
          A funny airplane, you can still buy, about 90 pieces of green.
          https://www.historynet.com/why-did-this-crazy-kitplane-kill-so-many-pilots.htm
        4. venik
          venik 7 January 2021 14: 18
          0
          Quote: mirag2
          The company went bankrupt in the 1970s

          ========
          Yah? Did it go bankrupt? This information was presented on the "Sky Corner" website (http://www.airwar.ru/enc/la/bd8.html). However, on the same site there is information about other, much later developments of the same company "Bede Aircraft Corporation", the last of which dates back to 2001:
          Pliiz! BD-17 Nugget 2001? Manufacturer "Bede Corp.:

          (http://www.airwar.ru/enc/la/bd17.html)
          Perhaps, after the bankruptcy, the company underwent restructuring, or maybe even "Was there a boy? Maybe there was no boy?" request
          ----------
          Quote: mirag2
          actually built just a few aircraft kits BD-5

          ======
          Uh-huh! Total some? belay Well, if 5100 kits for self-assembly and 210 ready-made aircraft are "ONLY MUCH" for you, then how much for you, dear Alexander means "A LOT" ???? laughing lol
          PS Source: https://avia.pro/blog/bede-bd-5-tehnicheskie-harakteristiki-foto
          PPS By the way to date - more than 30 cars continue to fly and approx. one and a half hundred machines are in a state of airworthiness. request
  2. tlauicol
    tlauicol 6 January 2021 05: 49
    -2
    Its speed is not enough to simulate missiles, it is easier to use such a UAV. Flies very slowly. Yes, and they will not sell it to us, but we ourselves will be trolling for 50 years
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 6 January 2021 07: 06
      -4
      Quote: Tlauicol
      Its speed is not enough to simulate missiles, it is easier to use such a UAV. Flies very slowly. Yes, and they will not sell it to us, but we ourselves will be trolling for 50 years

      I agree completely! The thing microaviation may be useful, but not for air defense.
      The first is speed! In the era of the formation of hypersonic speeds, five hundred kilometers is not serious. An increase in TTX will lead to a transition from micro to mini, etc. In this case, the meaning of the toy is lost.
      The second is a person. He will be in the air when we simulate live fire! And the cost of preparing it is not a cheap pleasure.
      The third is artificial intelligence and remote control. It is easier to develop a radio-controlled target UAV with a proven system for returning the vehicle to an aircraft. At least it’s a pity to arrive, but money isn’t people.
      Well, somewhere like that!
  3. Crowe
    Crowe 6 January 2021 05: 51
    +12
    The flight qualities of such a device allow simulating an almost complete set of flight modes: takeoff, climb, level flight, descent, turns, "snake", dive, pitching, diving with transfer to pitching, flight at low altitude.

    Air defense (both land and sea) would be useful to train.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 6 January 2021 06: 14
      -8
      Quote: Crowe
      Air defense (both land and sea) would be useful to train.

      For a complete overview of the BEDE options:
      http://ru.knowledgr.com/00868897/БедBD5
      It could be used to train flight personnel (massively). As for the air defense ... wassat At a top speed of 480 km / h (The result was a sleek BD-5J, an aircraft (at 480 km / h) at 300 mph), these air defense drills would be reminiscent of turtle rabbit hunters ...
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 6 January 2021 08: 43
        +1
        ))) what kind of training ??? It was created for mass sales and mass use instead of a car ...
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 6 January 2021 09: 26
          -6
          Quote: mirag2
          It was created for mass sales and mass use instead of a car ...

          yes good
          But our opinion and knowledge from the material about BEDE will remain with us. The main thing is to have time to put the stick ...
          You gentlemen are "especially literate"! At least read here:

          They were going to train domestic air defense ... fool
          Buy plywood, tune airplanes and fly to ... mother, before the roosters crow ... laughing
        2. pmkemcity
          pmkemcity 6 January 2021 11: 06
          +2
          Quote: mirag2
          It was created for mass sales and mass use instead of a car ...

          It is not possible with us! What if everyone gets on a plane and leaves?
  4. datura23
    datura23 6 January 2021 06: 10
    +6
    The draft age will be reduced to 5 years in case of war, dwarfs midgets again ...
  5. Konnick
    Konnick 6 January 2021 06: 31
    +12
    Quote: Crowe
    would be useful to train.

    Namely, radar calculations. I don’t know if we have targets that simulate cruise missiles at ultra-low altitudes. And a reusable target specifically for training in finding, identifying and tracking a target in the form of a miniplane with an EPR like that of a CD, kills two birds with one stone from the economic point of view in the form of training air defense missile systems and at the same time flight crews without using and consuming the resource of ultra-expensive combat aircraft and spending imitator targets. The idea is interesting. Targets can be left only for checking combat air defense systems.
  6. Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 6 January 2021 07: 10
    +2
    I was strained by something else!
    The first Bede BD-5 micro aircraft was developed in the late 1960s in the United States by aircraft designer Jim Bede.

    As it was at Nosov's, Captain Vrungel used to say "As you name a ship, so it will sail ..."! bully
    1. illuminat
      illuminat 24 February 2021 11: 06
      -1
      The author of the article was mistaken. In English, Bede reads like Bid (sometimes they pronounce Bede, I don’t know how to correctly). The trouble is no sideways. Bidet, maybe ...
  7. Thrifty
    Thrifty 6 January 2021 07: 50
    +4
    You just need to create a series of unmanned targets of small and ultra-small class, and train air defense calculations for their search and defeat continuously, and not grab onto other people's ideas.
  8. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 6 January 2021 09: 56
    +1
    Believe it or not, there are special simulators for training air defense and for this there will soon be no need to conduct expensive shooting.
    1. Alexander Vorontsov
      6 January 2021 12: 36
      +6
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      Believe it or not, there are special simulators for training air defense and for this there will soon be no need to conduct expensive shooting.

      There are, of course, electronic launches.

      But using a target is always +1 step to combat conditions.


      Plus one more thing ... with these targets it is possible to carry out "reconnaissance" of air defense on the ground.
      Those. let's say in theory it was calculated that a locally located system should detect low-flying targets that will fly along a specific route, taking into account the terrain.

      And it would be nice to fly along this route on such an airplane and get real data - as you can see.
      1. Viktor Sergeev
        Viktor Sergeev 6 January 2021 21: 31
        +2
        Real shooting is good if you shoot every day, but it is terribly expensive. Shooting once a year or even a month is useless. I myself am an air defense soldier (C200), I learned from imitators, real shooting by God once a year at 3 at the range and nothing, everything was fine.
      2. YOUR
        YOUR 9 January 2021 11: 27
        +1
        The same missiles are often used as targets. And they fire rockets whose shelf life has come to a critical shelf life. So don't spend too much. Obsolete missiles need to be disposed of, and this money is no less than the cost of the target.
        Moreover, training programs and simulating both targets and their own missiles are on each air defense system. Plaque of any complexity can be imitated.
        The use of the "electronic launch" simulator is also used in a combat situation. In Vietnam, the Zrdn commander, after having shot all the missiles, on the S-75 there are 6 of them. He did not rush into the trench with the crew, but made an electronic launch. The RPK (radio transmitter of commands) has earned, i.e. a complete imitation of the aiming of missiles at the target. Amerikos's missile launch sensor worked and he safely dumped.
        1. Alexander Vorontsov
          9 January 2021 12: 00
          0
          Quote: YOUR
          The same missiles are often used as targets.

          In principle, they cannot imitate low-flying targets moving around the terrain.
          Well, the issue of security, which was also discussed, is just as important - in the Moscow region, it is the very thing to shoot with missiles with an expiration date)))
          + reconnaissance of the real state of affairs in a particular area, when it is important not how the system "entertains" itself, but what it really sees and what does not.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 9 January 2021 13: 03
            0
            Well, you give. Who told you that live firing takes place in places of permanent deployment? Ashuluk, KopYar, SaryShagan are our everything. Not in the know, Telemba was closed, or there is still something left there.
            1. Alexander Vorontsov
              9 January 2021 14: 03
              -1
              Quote: YOUR
              Well, you give. Who told you that live firing takes place in places of permanent deployment? Ashuluk, KopYar, SaryShagan are our everything. Not in the know, Telemba was closed, or there is still something left there.

              Vladimir, I will not argue with you and explain simple things.
              Literally in a line below, Nikolay Konnisk described everything quite clearly.

              I am sure that, if you wish, you can figure out and understand what is at stake and that the nature of the target in the form of a CD flying at low altitude with rounding the terrain differs from an anti-aircraft missile used as a target.

              And just to write, for the sake of writing, or to make the appearance of a conversation, or God forbid, "dispute" is not necessary.

              Do you think that it is normal to train on the ZR in the era of cruise missiles - ok, we have a pluralism of opinions, you have been heard.
              1. YOUR
                YOUR 10 January 2021 14: 26
                +1
                There is nothing difficult to program a missile defense flight at low altitude. Or you don't think so.
                And it's difficult to argue with me as an air defense officer with 30 years of experience. You have a theory, I have a theory and many years of practice
  9. Konnick
    Konnick 6 January 2021 13: 27
    +4
    Quote: Alexander Vorontsov
    It would be nice to fly along this route on such an airplane and get real data - as you can see.

    And then our exercises are conducted only at training grounds, such as Kapustin Yar, in a flat terrain as a table. And with such miniplanes, it is possible to conduct training and training, for example, even in the Moscow air defense zone and in the areas where air defense systems are based with difficult terrain or in areas with a high population density. Huge savings and constant readiness.
    1. Alexander Vorontsov
      6 January 2021 13: 47
      +3
      Quote: Konnick
      Quote: Alexander Vorontsov
      It would be nice to fly along this route on such an airplane and get real data - as you can see.

      And then our exercises are conducted only at training grounds, such as Kapustin Yar, in a flat terrain as a table. And with such miniplanes, it is possible to conduct training and training, for example, even in the Moscow air defense zone and in the areas where air defense systems are based with difficult terrain or in areas with a high population density. Huge savings and constant readiness.

      Yes, you formulated everything correctly! drinks
  10. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 6 January 2021 15: 18
    +2
    At one time, the CP10 airplane was in trend! Initially, there was a lot of writing about it ... coming up with options for its use ...! But as soon as the MO cue put it on it, everything calmed down ... recourse
    1. Alexander Vorontsov
      6 January 2021 15: 53
      0
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      At one time, the CP10 airplane was in trend! Initially, there was a lot of writing about it ... coming up with options for its use ...! But as soon as the MO cue put it on it, everything calmed down ... recourse

      Yes, it was.
      The prototype was made, and despite the fact that the CP-10 is 2,5 times larger than the BD-5, it is also quite suitable for the voiced tasks. Weight with fuel is only about 2500 kg. But it is not clear what he has with EPR, it may turn out that it is more than necessary to simulate the RC.
  11. Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 6 January 2021 15: 48
    +3
    If we remember that in the United States there is a mass of small private civil aviation, then no sensational headline is required.

    They use it - because they have it. Russia does not use - because no ...
    1. Alexander Vorontsov
      6 January 2021 16: 03
      +1
      Quote: Alex2000
      If we remember that in the United States there is a mass of small private civil aviation, then no sensational headline is required.
      They use it - because they have it. Russia does not use - because no ...

      Here it is interesting.
      At first I thought the same way, but when I went to the project site I was a little surprised.
      Civil use of this aircraft has been discontinued.
      This is hanging in the question section


      In short, “we don’t give a ride, we are not going to sell it, the plane is exclusively for experimental design and military tasks”.

      Civil use has been completely discontinued.
      As an option - a small low-flying, relatively high-speed (relatively civilian versions of propeller Cessna, etc.) target.
      Some unbalanced lonely psycho who has seen enough of films about kamikaze may well be dying.
      1. Aleks2000
        Aleks2000 6 January 2021 21: 04
        0
        Specifically, this type is not used in civilian life, above in the comments, they even described a little why.
        But other types to fig. Not this - so another will be used.

        It's just dofiga. Aircraft, Yachts, boats, extreme sports, cars, weapons, drones ...
        Something that we do not have a lot in civilian life.

  12. Tochilka
    Tochilka 6 January 2021 17: 58
    +1
    The roots of Me-163 are visible to the naked eye. Only this device is still safer. There was a place for the chassis, the fuel is not aggressive.
  13. Kushka
    Kushka 6 January 2021 23: 01
    +2
    480 km. not enough for them ...
    An air defense officer told me how he
    his subordinates flunked on exercises
    the whole regiment (with inspectors). The task was
    retake. The commander said in a rage, all in
    location, and you and your d ... will
    hang around at the range for at least a month until you teach them.
    And which ones to teach young people when the moment over them shares
    seconds. Then I said I overtook them to the civilian
    the airfield and they studied with me for half a month
    "see" the plane before, escort,
    issue target designation. So gradually, we learned
    at low speeds. As a result, the task was passed to
    fine.
  14. Bogatyrev
    Bogatyrev 7 January 2021 01: 22
    0
    Why microplane ??? !!!
    There is a UAV!
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 7 January 2021 03: 39
      0
      Why microplane ??? !!!
      There is a UAV!
      Duc, AI dear, in the UAV :) !!! It's easier to hire a private pilot and let him drive, for 40 bucks per hour over the landfill :)))
      1. Bogatyrev
        Bogatyrev 8 January 2021 03: 06
        0
        Why AI. Why a pilot.
        The UAV is remotely controlled. I understand that the AI ​​is still in combat conditions where the signal can be jammed. But "at the test site", why is he?
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 8 January 2021 14: 15
          0
          Why AI.
          and train him at the same time, and then use deep machine learning in countering air defense complexes and calculations, as a primitive example of optimization of the simplest neuromorphic algorithms ...
          Why a pilot
          it is advisable only to reduce the cost of training in exercises, without the use of UAVs, at any training ground without the need to deploy infrastructure for using UAVs as targets ... :)
          AI is still in combat conditions, where the signal can be jammed.
          it's not even about the absence of control signals and telemetry in flight, but a decrease in the cost of training operators of control complexes, plus the massive replication of software components for sale together with combat control complexes and modeling of various tactical situations in the process of AI training, an increase in combat efficiency, with a decrease in errors "live" operator, and other "nishtyaki" using AI !!!
  15. Foxmara
    Foxmara 7 January 2021 03: 58
    +1
    An interesting thing. I do not know about us, but for the United States it is really relevant. There have been cases of targeting their own ships. I just don't know how you can shoot with combatants at your pilot ..
  16. Egor53
    Egor53 7 January 2021 15: 20
    +1
    Such an aircraft will not be able to perform the functions of a target. It is subsonic, and can only simulate a cruise missile but .... high flying. Such an aircraft will not be able to fly at an altitude of less than 10 meters even with a very qualified pilot.
    Russia definitely does not need such toys.
  17. Lew
    Lew 18 February 2021 08: 58
    0
    prepare kamikaze ...
  18. Offspring
    Offspring 28 February 2021 10: 57
    0
    At first, they asked themselves whether a Soviet person needed personal cars, personal cows, or private apartments. then jeepies navigators, then computers, now airplanes. Yes, there is nothing Russian in the manufactured goods. from kettle to refrigerators all imports. For now, for the Russians will decide whether they need something or not, forever and we will be in one dark place. If nothing else.
  19. Kurlander
    Kurlander 16 March 2021 18: 48
    0
    Such aircraft were produced by the USSR in the mid-1980s .. Instead of a jet engine, they had a small pusher propeller, then it was practically a copy of the American designer Bede BD-5. In fact, he himself felt it in 1987 at the Riga airport Spilve at a rally of self-made workers. There they were tested by military test pilots. I remember the pilot, having landed, opened the lantern very technologically neatly made of very technologically impeccable fiberglass, said that with such dimensions of the wing length, the size of a Muscovite landing speed under 200 km an hour is fun for suicides ... It looked like the product was the purest industrial design, all the details were impeccably molded as on templates, cockpit devices more accurate Zhiguli Muscovite. It seems that it was called Swift or Hummingbird.