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The US Army has received the second battery of the Israeli air defense complex "Iron Dome"

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The US Army has received the second battery of the Israeli air defense complex "Iron Dome"

The American army received the second battery of the Israeli air defense complex "Iron Dome", the delivery was carried out over the weekend. The press service of the Israel Defense Forces reported.


Israel has completed the delivery of two batteries of the Iron Dome air defense system to the United States in accordance with a contract signed in 2019. The first battery was delivered to the United States in September 2020.

(...) the delivery of the "Iron Dome" to the US Army once again demonstrates the close relationship between the Israel Defense Ministry and the US Department of Defense, the effectiveness of the system against various threats and the excellent technological capabilities of the Israeli industry

- emphasized Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz.

In August 2019, the Pentagon purchased two Iron Dome batteries from Israel, including 12 launchers, 240 interceptor missiles, as well as a control system and radar stations. Later, the US military requested permission from Congress for an additional purchase of two more batteries, but in March 2020 announced the refusal of further purchases of the complex.

In Israel, the reason for this was the refusal to provide the Pentagon with the source codes (source codes) of the Iron Dome system. The United States said that the Israeli air defense system "did not fit" into the unified US missile defense system.

Meanwhile, military experts express doubts that the reason for the US abandonment of the Iron Dome was the impossibility of integrating it into the American missile defense system. The fact is that the Iron Dome has been integrated into the Israeli air defense network for many years, which consists of the overwhelming majority of the MIM-23 Hawk, MIM-104 Patriot and David's Sling complexes, which are built around American technology supplied by Raytheon, a participating company. in the development of the "Iron Dome" jointly with the Israeli company Rafael.

Earlier, the Pentagon said that the Israeli "Iron Dome" system could be adopted by the American army due to the failure of the program to create its own air defense system based on the AIM-120 AMRAAM and AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles.
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  1. Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 3 January 2021 15: 29
    -11%
    85% of Israeli military-industrial complex specialists are from Russia
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 3 January 2021 15: 45
      +12
      Quote: Dmitry Makarov
      85% of Israeli military-industrial complex specialists are from Russia

      This is a myth, because the real specialists from the Soviet military-industrial complex, who were of interest, have long been elderly people and do not work in Israeli enterprises. But of course they conveyed their experience - this is indisputable.

      Quote: Thrifty
      I wonder if the Israelis provided us codes, the Yankees would buy the dome

      Unlikely, because they needed several samples for the possible resale of this system to those countries that do not officially maintain relations with Israel, and who want to organize their production.
      The myth about codes is just an invention of the Israelis - the Americans will never buy such equipment in large quantities, because they initially leak information to the enemy, which means they cannot believe the Israelis that they were observing all measures of the secrecy regime. That is why purchases were limited to a small amount, most likely with the aim of checking this equipment at home or delivering to those regions where there is a high probability of its capture by the enemy.
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 3 January 2021 15: 52
        -8
        USSR - then, the Israelis will have an unpleasant "surprise," such as a Chinese craft, a copy of a dome with much worse characteristics of hitting targets !!! ...
        1. Mitroha
          Mitroha 3 January 2021 16: 10
          +1
          Iron kumpol, and now the Americans sleep better.
        2. ccsr
          ccsr 3 January 2021 16: 30
          +3
          Quote: Thrifty
          USSR - then, the Israelis will have an unpleasant "surprise," such as a Chinese craft, a copy of a dome with much worse characteristics of hitting targets !!! That will ultimately lead to a blow to the image of the Israeli military-industrial complex.

          Do not confuse the production of Chinese AK with the production of high-tech equipment - not everything the Chinese succeed with copying, so this option is not the most relevant for the Israelis. Yes, and all over the world have long known that Chinese smartphones are a class, but something more serious is already causing concern among those who are going to buy from them.

          Quote: voyaka uh
          Rather, the United States needs this system only to protect its foreign bases.

          You have at least an idea how many American bases are in the zone of hot conflicts and where it is calmer, but the drones of some frostbitten terrorists can fly. With this approach, they have to buy dozens of batteries in Israel, but this was not observed in 2020.
          Quote: voyaka uh
          The most valuable thing in J.K. - Open architecture LMS. It can be easily incorporated into any missile defense / air defense system.

          Maybe just for this they bought, so that later these developments would be transferred to those who are ready to buy American weapons, but are not ready to trade with Israel openly.
          1. Revolver
            Revolver 3 January 2021 21: 32
            -1
            Quote: ccsr
            And the whole world has long known that Chinese smartphones are a class

            In America, Chinese smartphones (judging by the meaningless names like REVVL or Aristo from unknown companies) firmly occupy the very bottom of the lines of all providers, positioned for those who cannot or do not want to pay a little more. And the reviews about them are 2, it's good if 3 stars out of five. A little higher, and there is already Korea. And at the very top are LG, Samsung, and Apple. Of course, Apple is going in China, but the development of both hardware and software is American.
            I once coveted the Google Pixel, I thought that although it was a Chinese craft, there was still a serious American company behind it, and the discount was huge on the occasion of the next model release. I got drunk so much that since then I only use Samsung.
            1. Shimshon
              Shimshon 3 January 2021 21: 53
              +1
              HTC is Taiwan, not China. Google bought them.
            2. SSR
              SSR 3 January 2021 23: 41
              0
              Quote: Nagan
              I used to google once

              I was a fan of the Samsung, for a number of reasons, as I put on, I switched to the top Chinese, which they recently recommended to me, and I blocked purely American programs, which went very deep to dig into my personal.
            3. ccsr
              ccsr 4 January 2021 11: 30
              0
              Quote: Nagan
              In America, Chinese smartphones (judging by the meaningless names like REVVL or Aristo from unknown companies) are firmly at the bottom of all providers' lines,

              I don't know how in America, but in Russia Chinese smartphones are widespread, starting with Huawei, Xiaomi and some other models of other companies. And for non-professionals, buying a Chinese smartphone for 20-30 thousand rubles is much more preferable than buying for 60-80 thousand rubles. brand models. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's better for me to change smartphones more often than keep one expensive for many years.
              By the way, I bought the first Huawei mobile phones twenty years ago, when I was a user of the Moscow Cellular Communications company, which probably no one remembers anymore, but it was the first operator in Moscow. And what is interesting, the phones were of high quality even then, so I have no prejudice about this type of technology. But I will never buy a Chinese car - that's for sure.
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 3 January 2021 16: 06
        +15
        "they needed several samples for a possible resale of this system to those countries that do not officially maintain relations with Israel, and who want to organize their own production" ///
        ----
        I do not think so ... recourse
        Rather, the United States needs this system only to protect its foreign bases. That is, you don't need much. Rockets for Zh.K. and so are made mainly in the USA. In Israel - the smaller part. The most valuable thing in Zh.K. - Open architecture LMS. It can be easily incorporated into any missile defense / air defense system.
        1. cniza
          cniza 3 January 2021 16: 12
          +3
          But what about this statement?

          it became impossible to integrate it into the American missile defense system.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 3 January 2021 16: 18
            +7
            This is something else. Computers and radars Zh.K. can be connected anywhere, to any missiles, guns, lasers.
            1. cniza
              cniza 3 January 2021 16: 43
              +3
              Why are they philosophizing then or is it their usual mantras, as lobbyists of their military-industrial complex ...
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 3 January 2021 16: 48
                +7
                The states are trying to create a similar system. But mobile,
                as a military missile defense / air defense. Not yet.
                After all, J.K. designed to protect cities from Grad-Smerch missiles (plus,
                a little less). Up to 70 km along the trajectory.
                Now he is being trained to work against cruise missiles and drones.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 3 January 2021 17: 06
                  +3
                  So they will try to sketch something for themselves and combine with their systems ...
                2. Lt. Air Force stock
                  Lt. Air Force stock 3 January 2021 18: 06
                  0
                  Quote: voyaka uh
                  Now he is being trained to work against cruise missiles and drones.

                  Why finish teaching him? For cruise missiles, there are Barak missiles.
                  1. voyaka uh
                    voyaka uh 3 January 2021 21: 01
                    +3
                    Shot cost.
                    The Barak rocket is many times more expensive than the Zh.K.
                    1,5 million versus $ 20,000.
                    But Barak-8 can also shoot down supersonic Brahmos, and J.K. can not.
              2. rocket757
                rocket757 3 January 2021 17: 24
                +2
                The Yankees have a priority concept, ATTACK !!! Here, they just had all the top type ... not against any opponent, well, so they do not climb where they can knock horns. In short, reliance on the Air Force.
                Their house is far away, from all sorts of hot events, to be zealous, to protect it, it is worth it, only from some kind of stray ... and they do not run into a global blow, from which they cannot be protected ...
                So everything is logical, to cover up some overseas bases, you can buy the appropriate systems, since with your span, at the moment.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 3 January 2021 18: 13
                  +3
                  Quote: rocket757

                  So everything is logical, to cover up some overseas bases, you can buy the appropriate systems,


                  Quite a possible option ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 3 January 2021 18: 35
                    +2
                    Just figure out what the bulk of the finances and resources in the military-industrial complex of stripes are directed to .... attack offensive systems and means of covering them from possible opposition!
                    At the same time, the option of serious protection is not visible there. hope for the first, sudden crushing blow, and even the enemy is chosen one in which there are not many chances to defend against a massive attack.
                    The remoteness of their home territory from the theater of war allows them to neglect many of the elements of defense that the countries that might be the target of their attack are forced to create.
        2. venik
          venik 3 January 2021 16: 22
          +1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Rather, the United States needs this system only to protect its foreign bases.

          =========
          Or perhaps in order to study and create own system with minimal costs ... And why not? request
    2. Russobel
      Russobel 3 January 2021 16: 25
      -4
      Why minus that ?! I do not understand...
      Everything is correct, only of course they are not, but were ...
      Where I totally agree with the following comment.

      "This is a myth, because the real specialists from the Soviet military-industrial complex, who were of interest, have long been elderly people and do not work in Israeli enterprises. But of course they passed on their experience - this is indisputable."
    3. Mikle2000
      Mikle2000 3 January 2021 20: 43
      -6
      What a soft word is used - immigrants, instead of refugees))
  2. marchcat
    marchcat 3 January 2021 15: 29
    -17%
    Sdydobishcha, "great nation" and so goofy. We lived ... to bow to the Jews.
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 3 January 2021 15: 48
      +28
      Where does this desire come from in any action to look for who came to bow to whom? Do you come to the store for bread to bow to the seller?
    2. Svetlana
      Svetlana 3 January 2021 15: 59
      0
      But no. They did not go astray, but on the contrary, they learned to print papers on which they buy everything they need around the world.
      ...
      Behold at the root (c) Kozma Prutkov
      1. marchcat
        marchcat 3 January 2021 16: 28
        -5
        Do you come to the store for bread to bow to the seller?
        I don't go to Israel to buy bread.
  3. Charik
    Charik 3 January 2021 15: 30
    -4
    The Houthis were able to launch the P27 from the ground, but they could not screw their missiles into the ground air defense - strange. But what kind of missiles in the Dome?
    1. Cyril G ...
      Cyril G ... 3 January 2021 16: 39
      +1
      Quote: Charik
      And what are the missiles in the Dome?


      This is the most interesting question. Jews generally tell tales that their own treasury ZUR ZhK costs 40 thousand bucks. I don’t believe in principle.
      1. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 3 January 2021 20: 59
        -3
        Quote: Cyril G ...
        Jews generally tell tales that their own treasury ZUR ZhK costs 40 thousand bucks. I don’t believe in principle.

        We'll have to believe This information that exists in the open millet
        The Tamir missile, according to foreign reports, is capable of flying at Mach 2,2 at its target and destroying it at altitudes up to 10 feet (about three kilometers). The missile is highly maneuverable and capable of correcting its trajectory thanks to large, maneuverable stabilizers that are deployed in a configuration similar to air-to-air missiles - extremely fast missiles designed to pursue fighters, moving targets and difficult to destroy.
        The new version of the rocket costs about $ 50 per unit.
        1. Cyril G ...
          Cyril G ... 3 January 2021 21: 04
          +3
          I know how much SAM and RVV cost in the west and in our country, and therefore I remain with my own - this is a case of so-called lies. It is not entirely clear where exactly they lie, whether in terms of equipping the ARGSN missiles, or in terms of prices. But you are definitely being deceived somewhere. It happens.
          1. Vitaly gusin
            Vitaly gusin 3 January 2021 21: 30
            -4
            Quote: Cyril G ...
            ... But you are definitely being deceived somewhere. It happens.

            Well, we were just for trying to lie to the population (deception of public opinion) the head of government was put on trial.
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 3 January 2021 15: 32
    +1
    I wonder if the Israelis provided US codes, would the Yankees buy the dome further, or do they, like Indians, prioritize their technology, while massively purchasing what they themselves are unable to do, or what is expensive for them to manufacture? ??
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 3 January 2021 15: 40
      +3
      Apparently, the United States really could not develop something new of this class. Planned in the process of "buying" to borrow proven technical solutions. The position of the United States on air defense - missile defense is well-known, the correct one can only be American-made.
    2. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 3 January 2021 15: 42
      -4
      The US buys the best in the market. If the domestic company cannot provide the best, buy from overseas. They just require serial production on their territory.
      If you look at the components, then there is not a single technique that is made entirely in the USA.
      1. bar
        bar 3 January 2021 16: 08
        +3
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        The US buys the best in the market. If the domestic company cannot provide the best, buy from overseas. They just require serial production on their territory.

        Do you think Russia refused to produce the S-400 in America?
      2. Quadro
        Quadro 3 January 2021 16: 13
        -1
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        The US buys the best in the market. If the domestic company cannot provide the best, buy from overseas. They just require serial production on their territory.
        If you look at the components, then there is not a single technique that is made entirely in the USA.

        And you're still a humorist. I have never seen such selective nonsense. The USA buys what they have lobbied for, or if they cannot do it themselves. Dozens of cases when, instead of normal weapons, they took rubbish, like M14, M103 (in the era of OBT), M16 and the like. They will disassemble this dome into cogs and look at the codes and that's it, they also bought s-300 and t-72 in a couple of pieces.
      3. Cyril G ...
        Cyril G ... 3 January 2021 16: 33
        +2
        Rather where the lobby is more impudent
  5. Morozov
    Morozov 3 January 2021 15: 32
    -7
    battery of the Israeli air defense complex "Iron Dome"

    They all need domes negative ..But they won't save them .. Too much blood and robberies of the peoples of the world hi
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 3 January 2021 15: 49
      +1
      Morozov -Vitaly, happy 2021! Hatred (ostentatious) for the Israelis hates you! !! hi lol drinks
  6. venik
    venik 3 January 2021 15: 42
    +1
    "... In Israel, the reason for this was the refusal to provide the Pentagon with the source codes (source codes) of the Iron Dome system. The US said that the Israeli air defense system" did not fit "into the unified US missile defense system.
    Meanwhile, military experts express doubts that the reason for the US abandonment of the Iron Dome was the impossibility of integrating it into the American missile defense system ...... "
    =========
    Nothing personal! Simply - business...... request
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 3 January 2021 15: 49
    +5
    In response to this deal, Turkey should have imposed sanctions on the United States and Israel. smile
    1. bar
      bar 3 January 2021 16: 09
      +5
      +100500. The Israeli system does not fit into a single NATO air defense system.
  8. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 3 January 2021 15: 50
    0
    States and Israel ... No one can tell me why Israel receives multi-billion dollar military aid every year? I'm not against Jews, but Israel is annoying. God forbid there will be a war - on whose side will he be?
    1. bar
      bar 3 January 2021 16: 03
      +3
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      I'm not against Jews, but Israel is annoying. God forbid there will be a war - on whose side will he be?

      Don't strain yourself. Let the striped ones tense, they pay money.
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 3 January 2021 16: 29
        +2
        Thank you. For advice. but I do it myself.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 3 January 2021 16: 03
      +15
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      States and Israel ... No one can tell me why Israel receives multi-billion dollar military aid every year? I'm not against Jews, but Israel is annoying. God forbid there will be a war - on whose side will he be?

      Under the Camp David Treaty of 79. In exchange for the fact that Israel left Sinai without a fight, which led to the transition of Egypt from the Soviet zone of influence to the American one, the United States was obliged to provide military assistance to Israel and Egypt for 50 years. The funds that are allocated to these countries should be spent only in the American military-industrial complex.
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 3 January 2021 16: 20
        +8
        Aron, and you and your fellow-forum residents with the New Year 2021! hi drinks
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 3 January 2021 16: 26
          +9
          Quote: Thrifty
          Aron, and you and your fellow-forum residents with the New Year 2021! hi drinks

          Thank you. And you and your loved ones have a peaceful sky and health.
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 3 January 2021 18: 49
            -7
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            Quote: Thrifty
            Aron, and you and your fellow-forum residents with the New Year 2021! hi drinks

            Thank you. And you and your loved ones have a peaceful sky and health.

            Comrade Aaron Zaavi. I categorically congratulate you on the New Year 2021. Dot. laughing drinks
            1. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 3 January 2021 18: 53
              +1
              Quote: Observer2014

              Comrade Aaron Zaavi. I categorically congratulate you on the New Year 2021. Dot. laughing drinks

              Thank you. drinks And all the best to you.
        2. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 3 January 2021 19: 11
          +2
          Quote: Thrifty
          Aron, and you with fellow-forum residents Happy New Year 2021!

          Thank you!
          ALL HAPPY NEW YEAR 2021!
          What would he bring everyone health and PEACE!
      2. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 3 January 2021 16: 28
        -1
        I don’t need to tell me why and how ... I see what I see. And I see something not entirely disingenuous.
    3. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 3 January 2021 16: 06
      +2
      As always, on your hi Do you think that in the event of a world war, someone who is not a NATO member will want to fall under the hand of a military superpower? laughing
      1. Thrifty
        Thrifty 3 January 2021 16: 19
        +2
        Petrosyan hi th, Krasnodar lol hi -happy New Year! With new jokes on the site! !! wassat drinks
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 3 January 2021 16: 25
          +2
          Quote: Thrifty
          Petrosyan hi th, Krasnodar lol hi -happy New Year! With new jokes on the site! !! wassat drinks

          Health and peace to you and your family! drinks And the opportunity to buy everything else! hi
          1. Thrifty
            Thrifty 3 January 2021 17: 26
            +1
            Krasnodar -Thank you for your kind words! hi Peace and happiness to you, as well as all the very best! !! drinks hi
      2. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 3 January 2021 16: 32
        -5
        Katz offers to give up? :)
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 3 January 2021 17: 16
          +3
          Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
          Katz offers to give up? :)

          To whom, why, on what terms? laughing
          1. Thrifty
            Thrifty 3 January 2021 17: 29
            +2
            Krasnodar - as soon as you join India to Israel, here you are from the abundance of happiness lol and have to give up laughing yes
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 3 January 2021 18: 29
              +2
              Good idea, but you have to bomb Pakistan repeat
      3. 72jora72
        72jora72 3 January 2021 17: 05
        +1
        Do you think that in the event of a world war, someone who is not a NATO member will want to fall under the hand of a military superpower?
        And those who are NATO members, they want to ??
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 3 January 2021 17: 15
          +3
          No. Do not want to. But - you have to laughing
    4. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 3 January 2021 16: 06
      0
      Israel is a suburban summer residence of American elites. Everything is simple here.
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 3 January 2021 16: 15
        +10
        laughing What are they to do in this Middle East hole? ))
        On the contrary, if you look at the education of the Israeli elite, you will find that Natanyahu is a graduate of MIT and Harvard, Barack Stanford, etc. hi
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 3 January 2021 19: 43
          +3
          Quote: Krasnodar
          Natanyahu MIT and Harvard alumnus, Barack Stanford

          Happy New Year!
          And so that this year will fix everything that the old one has done.
          Well, those that you wrote were taught for a long time, either they studied badly, or they forgot everything, but in any case, today they are not so relevant
          But the university in Beersheba is more relevant today.
          Alon Rapaport - Medical Director Pfizer Doctor of Medicine from the University Ben Gurion
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 3 January 2021 21: 26
            +2
            Happy New Year and the fulfillment of all desires, yours and your loved ones! drinks
            Phizer is good, only with the IPO made by EMNIP in 1993 and the vaccine they developed, they are too red on the stock exchange, and during vaccination.
            Well, about Rappoport - you only confirm what I have written above. Israel is an overseas dacha for the Israeli elite - scientific, political and business. But not the other way around hi
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 4 January 2021 15: 00
              +1
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Israel overseas dacha

              Well, for whom and Kalym resort.
              And in Israel, besides the "overseas dacha", as you know, a lot of world discoveries and world-famous scientists are born.
              And not only in Phizer but also Modern where is the chief physician of the company, Israeli professor Tal Zaks, who also studied at the medical faculty of the Ben-Gurion University in the Negev.
              Bursa, shmursa, how many billions of people in the world want them to receive their vaccines at a price of $ 20 to $ 30 per unit. And my family and I have already received and understandably free.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 4 January 2021 16: 16
                +1
                Cool! I am sincerely glad for you! good
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 4 January 2021 17: 53
                  +1
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Cool! I am sincerely glad for you!

                  Thank you! drinks
        2. XXXIII
          XXXIII 3 January 2021 23: 44
          +3
          Quote: Krasnodar
          What are they to do in this Middle East hole? ))

          lol
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 3 January 2021 23: 54
            0
            Natanyahu became the American elite? laughing
            1. XXXIII
              XXXIII 3 January 2021 23: 59
              +2
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Natanyahu became the American elite? laughing

              What else.))
              brother, brother, one blood laughing
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 4 January 2021 00: 09
                +1
                laughing no matter how funny it is, Natanyahu was a companion of Romney, he is friends with Kushnir's dad and is a member of this elite. But it is not. Here is Kushnir - yes. Settling for marriage to Ivanka Trump. And billions of dads. And Bibik is a tramp - 30 million official tanks and communications. For the money - there are plenty of them in Russia laughing
                1. XXXIII
                  XXXIII 4 January 2021 00: 29
                  +2
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  laughing no matter how funny it is, Natanyahu was a companion of Romney, he is friends with Kushnir's dad and is a member of this elite. But it is not. Here is Kushnir - yes. Settling for marriage to Ivanka Trump. And billions of dads. And Bibik is a tramp - 30 million official tanks and communications. For the money - there are plenty of them in Russia laughing

                  Well, I annealed it. good laughing
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 4 January 2021 00: 37
                    0
                    Why annealed? laughing Bibik does not have much money and much influence in the States. If it is necessary to break through Israel, due to the support of the lobby and acquaintances, he will do it, but on a personal level - no one, nothing to call him there)).
    5. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 3 January 2021 16: 45
      +7
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      Who can tell me why Israel receives multibillion-dollar military aid every year?

      I answered this question in my article "American aid to Israel. When, how and why"
      https://topwar.ru/120541-amerikanskaya-pomosch-izrailyu-kogda-kak-i-zachem.html
      Do not be lazy, read. If you have any questions, please contact us without hesitation. hi
    6. XXXIII
      XXXIII 3 January 2021 23: 57
      +1
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      States and Israel ... No one can tell me why Israel receives multi-billion dollar military aid every year? I'm not against Jews, but Israel is annoying. God forbid there will be a war - on whose side will he be?

      On their side, they have already built bunkers. Do you think the tunnels of the Palestinians are for terrorist attacks, no cover. After a nuclear war, the Jews plan to revive humanity again, Zionism is like that.
    7. Yura
      Yura 4 January 2021 04: 18
      +2
      Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
      Who can tell me why Israel receives multibillion-dollar military aid every year?

      The financial scheme, almost ideal, ingenious in its simplicity - so a contract, a loan was signed today, tomorrow from the United States, enterprises started working in order to implement the contract (accordingly taxes went to the treasury), financed well, let's say from those amounts received for "IOUs" in in the form of government bonds, we keep in mind that Israel, moreover, owes them and regularly pays both interest and amounts stipulated in the contract. So - the enterprises are working, the contract is being fulfilled, taxes and salaries are paid, which are immediately spent in stores, partly to pay taxes. It takes several years for a loan issued to Israel in this case to fight back, but Israel still owes it, and therefore, upon completion of supplies under the contract, the United States simply writes off the remainder of the debt to Israel and concludes the next contract, the industry must work otherwise the state will be without taxes, that is, funds, to fulfill their functions. In about the same way, money is earned on the unemployed, the poor and migrants who eat, sleep, shit, who need a roof over their heads and provide this with the appropriate production, that is, the receipt of taxes and no matter what money can be printed for this, a refund in the form of taxes to the treasury is already quite a civilian item of state income, and not counterfeiting. The example is a little rough, but the essence remains the same.
  9. bar
    bar 3 January 2021 16: 01
    -1
    Israel completes delivery of two batteries of the Iron Dome air defense system to the United States

    Even the striped one zrada after another. Don't they hope for their "patriot" anymore? It's sad. So they will reach the purchase of the S-400 and Su-35, it's not for nothing that their iksperdy began to praise them laughing
    1. alien308
      alien308 3 January 2021 16: 07
      +5
      The right system. Fight off little things, including.
      1. bar
        bar 3 January 2021 16: 13
        -1
        Where does a trifle come from in America? She won't fly across the ocean. Or do they want to stir up the war with Mexico?
  10. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 3 January 2021 16: 04
    -7
    air defense complex "Iron Dome"


    Ironically farted)))
    Yankees are no longer able to produce anything high-tech, except for show-offs and maidans)))
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 3 January 2021 23: 37
      +1
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      air defense complex "Iron Dome"


      Ironically farted)))
      Yankees are no longer able to produce anything high-tech, except for show-offs and maidans)))

      How why, when there is a small colony that does everything.))
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 4 January 2021 00: 07
        +1
        Especially when you consider that the Israelis are former Soviet citizens, the most literate))
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 4 January 2021 00: 38
          +2
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Especially when you consider that the Israelis are former Soviet citizens, the most literate))

          Yes, most of them are Arabs and other nations.
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 4 January 2021 10: 30
            +2
            And how they love Arabs))
            How can you not remember the legendary conversation laughing
  11. cniza
    cniza 3 January 2021 16: 08
    +4
    The United States said that the Israeli air defense system "did not fit" into the unified US missile defense system.


    Why did you buy it then?
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 3 January 2021 23: 39
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      The United States said that the Israeli air defense system "did not fit" into the unified US missile defense system.


      Why did you buy it then?

      This is bribery, for the fact that Trump was filled up.)) As if they put it themselves, they removed it themselves, but not for free. Everything is in their style.
  12. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 3 January 2021 16: 24
    +1
    We look at the area of ​​the United States and the area of ​​Israel. For Israel, the Dome is ideal both for money and for its capabilities. For the United States, no, they chose other opponents.
  13. Cyril G ...
    Cyril G ... 3 January 2021 16: 34
    +2
    Soon we will find out how much the antimissile actually costs there.
  14. tarakan
    tarakan 3 January 2021 16: 38
    +1
    Quote: voyaka uh
    "they needed several samples for a possible resale of this system to those countries that do not officially maintain relations with Israel, and who want to organize their own production" ///
    ----
    I do not think so ... recourse
    Rather, the United States needs this system only to protect its foreign bases. That is, you don't need much. Rockets for Zh.K. and so are made mainly in the USA. In Israel - the smaller part. The most valuable thing in Zh.K. - Open architecture LMS. It can be easily incorporated into any missile defense / air defense system.

    And I was scratching my turnips, why the heck is a dome on my territory
  15. Old26
    Old26 3 January 2021 17: 05
    +8
    Quote: marchcat
    Sdydobishcha, "great nation" and so goofy. We lived ... to bow to the Jews.

    Well, what if the Jews did something that the "great nation" did not. Buy something already a shame? Then we should probably be ashamed. Let's bow to the British to sell us jet engines. Or is it not a shame? There is no shame in buying something from someone who has done before and better than you.

    Quote: bar
    Even the striped one zrada after another. Don't they hope for their "patriot" anymore?

    And nothing that "Dome" and "Patriot" are systems of completely different purposes and are not interchangeable, but complementary to each other

    Quote: bar
    Where does a trifle come from in America? She won't fly across the ocean. Or do they want to stir up the war with Mexico?

    And the Americans do not have bases in other countries, incl. and in hot spots ???
  16. Old26
    Old26 3 January 2021 17: 18
    +7
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
    Who can tell me why Israel receives multibillion-dollar military aid every year?

    I answered this question in my article "American aid to Israel. When, how and why"
    https://topwar.ru/120541-amerikanskaya-pomosch-izrailyu-kogda-kak-i-zachem.html
    Do not be lazy, read. If you have any questions, please contact us without hesitation. hi

    Happy New Year, Alexander. It so happened that I "yawned" this article of yours. I have heard fragmentary about aid to Israel from various sources, incl. in due time and from programs of "voices", but in such volume - I read for the first time. I even copied this article of yours. thanks for the information
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 3 January 2021 18: 46
      0
      Quote: Old26
      for the first time. I even copied this article of yours. Thanks for the information.

      You're welcome.
      Congratulations are mutual. All the best. God bless you!
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 3 January 2021 23: 24
        -1
        Quote: A. Privalov
        You're welcome.
        So what did Israel create there, before US military aid or recognition in the UN?
        The attitude of the United States to Israel began to change, and then military assistance began only after the United States realized that Israel had already created a sufficiently powerful military industry capable of withstanding Arab ambitions, that Israel had built powerful armed forces that give a chance to undermine the influence of the USSR in the Middle East.

        Here, in a nutshell, Israel received assistance before actual recognition, in return to serve the United States, or gave sovereignty to preserve. Military aid was used wisely. That is, the investment paid off. But before the help of the United States, Israel, as it were, was not official. Or is there a history of just modern Israel, before its recognition in the UN? Didn't Arab tribes live there, the same Palestinians?
  17. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 3 January 2021 18: 21
    +1
    The system is so-so, rather stationary to protect against savages with their homemade missiles, and most importantly, terribly expensive.
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 3 January 2021 23: 34
      +2
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      The system is so-so, rather stationary to protect against savages with their homemade missiles, and most importantly, terribly expensive.

      Indeed, you are not mistaken. The system is outdated, they collect money for a new one.))
  18. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 3 January 2021 18: 29
    -3
    "Iron Dome" on a stone galangal ..... recourse We'll have to send the gnomes, tear the idol from the inside.
  19. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 3 January 2021 19: 03
    +2
    I think there is lobbying by the US defense complex ....
  20. Selevc
    Selevc 3 January 2021 19: 30
    +8
    The Americans (with all their disadvantages) have always been distinguished by rare pragmatism in matters of purchasing foreign weapons. I think that the Domes will be delivered to Iraq to protect the local American bases ...

    In this way, the United States is solving several problems at once:
    1. And it seems like Iran will be shown that they have cover from missile attacks.
    2. And if something the system itself is tested in a real battle.,
    3. And for their own soldiers it seems to be calmer - they are protected by one of the most modern missile defense systems
    4. And of course they will get good additional experience while creating their own missile defense systems.
    5. In addition, such advertising of the ally's weapons and ourselves as a co-author of the project is always a plus.
    1. Danila46
      Danila46 3 January 2021 21: 34
      -1
      if for Iraqi bases, then why throw them overseas? Iraq is on, 1500 km from Israel ...
  21. Diverter
    Diverter 3 January 2021 19: 43
    0
    from this news we can conclude. that the Americans bought Israeli weapons after realizing that their own sucks? But what about their shouts to the whole world that their any weapon is the best ?!
  22. rocket757
    rocket757 3 January 2021 20: 24
    +2
    There is a country that has its own strategy, its own military doctrine ...
    The military-industrial complex of this country is sharpened to ensure this strategy / doctrine, most of what does not fit into it is not sufficiently funded, accordingly, no one will bother, develop, or produce such products, so there is no need to expect special achievements there.
    And now a simple question - what is the military strategy / doctrine of the strip?
  23. Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 3 January 2021 20: 39
    0
    The United States refused to purchase the Israeli air defense system "Iron Dome! Who's lying!"
  24. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 3 January 2021 22: 03
    0
    And each battery can protect as much as 150 square kilometers ...
    1. Vladislav Trofimov
      Vladislav Trofimov 4 January 2021 16: 17
      0
      wrong...
      the radius of the Iron Dome is 70 km ...
      according to a simple formula, the area of ​​such a circle is 220 sq km ...
      1. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 5 January 2021 00: 47
        0
        Quote: Vladislav Trofimov
        wrong...

        Each battery consists of three launchers equipped with 20 Tamir interceptors and is reportedly capable of protecting an urban area of ​​approximately 150 square kilometers.
  25. XXXIII
    XXXIII 3 January 2021 23: 04
    0
    The US Army has received the second battery of the Israeli air defense complex "Iron Dome"
    We sold what we don't need ourselves. Well, how can you, shameless. lol
  26. rotfuks
    rotfuks 4 January 2021 10: 25
    -1
    All the "military merit" of this dome is the interception of Palestinian missiles made from old water pipes. This "iron dome" has never been used in real combat operations against an active army. So far, apart from PR in the pro-Israel and Israeli media, there is no other information about this weapon. So the Americans bought this weapon rather for informational purposes.
    1. Vladislav Trofimov
      Vladislav Trofimov 4 January 2021 16: 20
      0
      however, they actually shoot down those water pipes that only fly for a few seconds ... in an unpredictable trajectory and without any accompaniment or navigation ... it's much more difficult than shooting down a missile with a working guidance system ...
  27. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 4 January 2021 15: 08
    0
    Nu, SSHA eto golova i IL sheya.
    I sheya vertit etoy golovoy.
  28. Vladislav Trofimov
    Vladislav Trofimov 4 January 2021 16: 11
    0
    85% of Israeli military-industrial complex specialists are from Russia

    Israel, for a long time, has created its own school of engineering professions ...
  29. spectr
    spectr 5 January 2021 22: 24
    0
    But the "swallows" appeared after the American patriots let rockets into the oil refining complexes.