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The Armed Forces of Ukraine adopted a sniper complex weighing 25 kg chambered for 14,5x114 mm

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The Armed Forces of Ukraine adopted a sniper complex weighing 25 kg chambered for 14,5x114 mm

The armed forces of Ukraine announced the adoption of a new sniper complex. We are talking about long-range sniper rifles produced in Kharkov.


The Armed Forces say that the military began to receive long-range sniper weapon Snipex - Snipex T-REX and Snipex ALLIGATOR. These are rifles chambered for 14,5x114 mm.

For the first time, the Snipex T-Rex rifle was presented in 2017 as a demonstration prototype. It took shape in its current form in 2019.


At the same time, multi-stage tests were started.


The initial mass of the sniper complex was about 22 kg. Now it is stated that it is 25 kg. Such a mass clearly does not allow the rifle to be used as a conventional portable sniper weapon. To a greater extent, it is designed to solve such problems as the defeat of equipment, including lightly armored, in fact, in a theater of operations, as well as protected targets.

Snipex T-REX characteristics: assembled length - 1,8 m, barrel length - 1,2 m. Effective firing range - up to 2 thousand meters.

Snipex ALLIGATOR is a multi-charge long-range large-caliber rifle with magazine feed (magazine is removable, box-type, for 5 rounds). The rifle has a height-adjustable cheek rest.

The length of the assembled Alligator is 2 m, the barrel length is 1,2 m. The muzzle velocity of the bullet is 980 m / s. Effective firing range - 2 thousand meters.
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    1. Labrador
      Labrador 1 January 2021 11: 07
      +11
      And the bullet speed is 980 km!
      1. Nikolaevich I
        Nikolaevich I 1 January 2021 11: 10
        +4
        Quote: Labrador
        And the bullet speed is 980 km!

        In hour ?
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 1 January 2021 11: 36
          +27
          Quote: Nikolaevich I
          In hour ?

          On the day lol
          1. novel66
            novel66 1 January 2021 12: 07
            +9
            basically!!!
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 09
              +7
              Well, here, too, with reservations. A winter or summer day. You won't fly far in the dark laughing
              1. novel66
                novel66 1 January 2021 12: 11
                +9
                and the fog is still ... full moon lol
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 14
                  +3
                  Quote: novel xnumx
                  and the fog is still ... full moon

                  Yes, the wolves will howl ...
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 1 January 2021 12: 16
                    +3
                    oh, are there wolves ...?
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 17
                      +1
                      Quote: novel xnumx
                      oh, wolves ...

                      Wives laughing
                      "Wouldn't you Vanyok go to the soldiers" laughing
                      1. novel66
                        novel66 1 January 2021 12: 22
                        +3
                        I can see it !!!
                      2. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 27
                        0
                        Quote: novel xnumx
                        I can see it !!!

                        I'm different
                        "Mom, sew some help" laughing
                      3. novel66
                        novel66 1 January 2021 12: 30
                        +3
                        or "so, mamo, lie down and don't try !!"
                      4. novel66
                        novel66 1 January 2021 12: 31
                        +3
                        oh, and I also remembered cho!
                      5. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 42
                        +5
                        Nah, that's better laughing
                      6. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 1 January 2021 13: 24
                        +15
                        Minus player, I don't like the movie, or a toad bit me against me laughing
                      7. Lipchanin
                        Lipchanin 1 January 2021 13: 33
                        +3
                        Toad's weight do not tell? laughing
        2. seregatara1969
          seregatara1969 1 January 2021 19: 55
          +3
          ptrd was easier. easier to attach a sight to the ptd
  • iouris
    iouris 1 January 2021 11: 52
    +7
    Quote: Nikolaevich I
    And the bullet speed is 980 km!
    In hour ?

    In length!
    1. Labrador
      Labrador 1 January 2021 12: 38
      +7
      I still see that picture as in old science fiction films: how the beam of a blaser (or whatever) is extended in length with the sound of "piu" laughing
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 44
        +4
        Quote: Labrador
        stretched in length with the sound "piu"

        And then "Fak fak fak" laughing
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    2. zenion
      zenion 2 January 2021 16: 16
      +1
      No, none in length, in width.
  • seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 1 January 2021 19: 53
    +1
    Yes! how the tu-154 flies
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 1 January 2021 11: 16
    +5
    Labrador - so this is the initial speed, it will accelerate to 999 km in flight! !! wassat
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    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 1 January 2021 11: 37
      +2
      Have you mastered hypersound? belay lol
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 1 January 2021 11: 59
        +7
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Have you mastered hypersound?

        Hyperloop mastered laughing
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 02
          +9
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          Hyperloop mastered

          With pans on what they eat laughing
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 1 January 2021 12: 32
            +7
            Well this photo is CLASSIC! This is the face of modern Ukraine. It will survive centuries and generations. Masterpiece!!!!!)))
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 47
              +12
              Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
              Masterpiece!!!!!)))

              Like this shame
            2. Arnaut
              Arnaut 1 January 2021 15: 22
              -12%
              Your delusions are masterpiece ...
              Pans and other kitchen items appeared on their heads when they could get a trial and twelve days of arrest (this is at best) or be beaten.
              You can take whatever you want to the ideas that made the "panheads" take to the streets, but you must take into account that they were ready to risk freedom, health and even life for their beliefs.
              And there are many such people in Ukraine.
              1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                Andrei Nikolaevich 1 January 2021 16: 25
                +5
                And there are many such people in Ukraine.
                Judging by the number of pots - there are a lot of them)
              2. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 1 January 2021 16: 43
                +6
                Quote: Arnaut
                that they were willing to risk freedom for their beliefs,

                When "Berkut" was beaten and burned ???
                When was the lease taken?
                When was the coup staged?
                So tell me why did you put the pots on at all?
                Who beat you there ???
                1. Arnaut
                  Arnaut 1 January 2021 18: 23
                  -9
                  Yes Yes Yes...
                  The golden eagle is such boys from the choir of the sanatorium for tuberculosis dystrophics.
                  And "titushki" are botanists from the philatelists' section.
                  1. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 1 January 2021 18: 32
                    +6
                    They didn't even have weapons
                    And "Berkut" is the same Ukrainians who have been called up for service and have taken the oath !!!
                    What is the OWL you know?
                    Show at least one video of how they just beat someone on the Maidan
                    How long they are beaten, burned and humiliated completely.
                    Ask a forum member with the nickname "Egoza" and how she and her friends fed and dressed "Berkutovtsy"
                    They were simply thrown at the mercy of the crowd without weapons.
                  2. Arnaut
                    Arnaut 1 January 2021 18: 49
                    -8
                    How the golden eagle behaved can be seen from what happened in Minsk in recent months. There are many former golden eagles. As in Moscow.
                    I will repeat myself. I do not discuss ideas and morals. I want to convey to you that people wore pots not out of lack of intelligence, but as a symbol of willingness to die for their ideas. You can feel whatever you like about it, but it's definitely not funny.
                  3. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 1 January 2021 18: 59
                    +5
                    Quote: Arnaut
                    How the golden eagle behaved can be seen from what happened in Minsk in recent months. T

                    So what was there?
                    Yes, if even in half "Berkut" were allowed to do what they were OBLIGED to do, the Mayadan would die in the bud
                    but as a symbol of willingness to die for your ideas.

                    Well, first of all, it's not clear what the ideas are in the pan
                    Secondly to the bee, not lace panties for which they squealed so much
                    And thirdly for the ideas of Parashkin? How do you like the ideas? Can you tell me how many billions you have enriched it?
                    And to whom did they sell?
                  4. Arnaut
                    Arnaut 1 January 2021 19: 19
                    -9
                    Again. I don't discuss ideas.
                    I personally know a guy who has been treating his back for 7 years (I won't write about the rest of the little things), after meeting with golden eagles a few kilometers from the center of Kiev. Only for the refusal to remove the yellow-blue ribbon from the backpack (the colors of the official state flag, under which the golden eagle took the Oath). Imagine a situation when in Moscow you are beaten by the National Guard for the tricolor or St. George's ribbon.
                  5. Vall eremkin
                    Vall eremkin 2 January 2021 15: 28
                    +5
                    This is a 100% lie. You got to the wrong place with her, here your stream of consciousness will not be appreciated.
              3. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 21: 08
                +7
                Quote: Arnaut
                people wore pots not for lack of intelligence, but as a symbol of willingness to die for their ideas.

                The word "potheads" has even entered the jokes. And by no means in a positive sense. Until now, in Kuevo, the "pan-heads" are in power - because everything is so bad and better, alas, for both Ukraine and Russia - and it won't be better. If you think about it - you will outweigh the "potheads" - tell me. Then we'll talk. Or maybe we will even give money for "Doshirak" ... In the meantime, 13 guys from my company are shooting your APU officers in Donbass - and I have supported them and will continue to support them. Enough money.
              4. Arnaut
                Arnaut 1 January 2021 22: 51
                -9
                Your anecdotes distort reality. And it's very bad. Both for Russia and for Ukraine.
                You have forgotten that Russia and Ukraine have been together for a very long time. And many of the qualities of Russians and Ukrainians coincide. The memory is good. When there is another Troubles in Russia, Ukrainians will remember everything. And Girkin and the "north wind" and "vacationers".
                This is not a threat. Just a statement of facts. Russia could solve the Ukrainian problem before 2014, could solve it in 2014-2015. But there were not enough iron nuts. Now it is for a long time. After you helped to kill Ukrainians, you will not shout: "And what for us? We are brothers."
              5. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 23: 00
                +6
                Quote: Arnaut
                Ukrainians will remember everything. And Girkin and the "north wind" and "vacationers".
                This is not a threat. Just a statement of facts. Russia could solve the Ukrainian problem before 2014, could solve it in 2014-2015.

                And now I'm deciding. There are 13 guys from the company, all the former Airborne Forces, in the Donbass, your APUshnyh freaks are beaten. And I equipped them, armed them and sent them there. It will be necessary - I will send more. I would go myself - but there is no one to leave the company with my family to. And I would have remembered Afghan and frolicked with a Finn ... In the meantime, I send the boys, equip and arm. And there is enough money - I am not working in Ukraine, thank God. Never mind, my boys also went through Chechnya (not all, really), they will have fun there with your AFU ... We are not Dudayevites, we don't cut our heads - we just stab like pigs ...
              6. Arnaut
                Arnaut 1 January 2021 23: 07
                -8
                How many tales I have heard about "frolic with a Finn in Afghanistan" ... Unless a peace man was cut out.
                But that is ... God is your judge.
                New Russian Troubles are not far off. 1917 will seem like a resort. And your boys will take an active part in that Troubles. It has always been so when those who have tasted blood in the war return. And then those who were not finished off in the Armed Forces of Ukraine will come.
                Again. We didn't solve the problem in 2014-2015, now it's for a long time.
              7. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 23: 20
                +3
                Quote: Arnaut
                And then those who they did not finish off in the Armed Forces will come.

                MY boys will finish off so that the APU will not seem a little. The second time they will not want to. Give me at least one victory of the Ukrainian Armed Forces - I don't remember. And the boys will come HOME, and not cut their heads. You, in Donbass, have plenty of Finns - not in vain are the best guys. And there is someone to cut - they are trained on the Nazis. And I have helped Donbass with money and will help - and in Russia I am far from being the only one. As long as my business works, there will be money. The father of you, the underdeveloped fascists, pressed more than 20 calendars around the world. And I will be - at least money.
              8. Arnaut
                Arnaut 1 January 2021 23: 50
                -7
                Yes, something has not been finished since 2014.
              9. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 2 January 2021 00: 49
                +1
                Quote: Arnaut
                Yes, something has not been finished since 2014.

                I know that the word skakla will always be the last - you can't do otherwise, stubborn as donkeys, naturally. And, nevertheless, I will say - my guys with the Donbass, together with the Armed Forces of Ukraine, will finish off yours - be sure. Are you not enough "boilers"? There will also be ... Only on UkroTV about some "peremogs" they rattle incessantly. And where is at least one in reality?
              10. Arnaut
                Arnaut 2 January 2021 01: 26
                -7
                You confuse me with someone.
                Do you want a peremog? You are welcome. After the Second World War, battles for an independent Ukraine from Moscow took place in the forests of Western Ukraine. Now the front runs through the Donbass. I don’t even know how it happened without any changes. So it was still in Moscow there was no turmoil.
                Again. I am here deliberately not for the Reds and not for the Whites. I am not agitating or advocating. I am simply amazed at the hazy attitude towards this issue.

                Either we cut them out with knives, then we turn off the gas for them and they will die in the cold in 2014-2015, then they have the wrong cartridges and they won't make a rifle.
                Don't cut it out.
                They won't die.
                They will buy cartridges.
                The rifles will do.
                Bander themselves will not hang on the lanterns.

                This is for a long time. There were not enough eggs in 2014-2015 - now either an adult war or negotiating (as we agreed on gas and paid off debts).
              11. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 2 January 2021 01: 32
                +2
                Quote: Arnaut
                now or adult war or negotiate

                And try to fight a nuclear power ... America has not risked for many decades, and Ukraine is ready to spread rolls for American cookies ... Are you completely crazy there? And to negotiate with the insane is like with the radio, not to respect yourself ...
              12. Arnaut
                Arnaut 2 January 2021 09: 50
                -5
                The USSR was an order of magnitude more powerful nuclear power. So what? Where is the USSR?
                So the USSR had its own ideology. And what is Russia's ideology? Russia is consistently losing its last allies. In 2020 Belarus and Armenia. Nothing has been heard about the Russian-Venezuelan friendship. The Allied Field Marshal in Libya, the Turks rumble. The allied king in the Central African Republic must be kept on the bayonets of "instructors". And so it goes around.

                But the urapatrites are in the fairy world of pink ponies: "we will cut everyone out with Finns." "With little blood and on a foreign land." Wake up.
              13. Narak-zempo
                Narak-zempo 2 January 2021 10: 54
                +3
                Quote: Arnaut
                And what is the ideology of Russia?

                Stability, Russia, Putin!
                And also - We can repeat!
                And we are for peace, and we do not threaten anyone. But if in all conscience, then I would punch all these gayropeans and mattress mats, so they knew!
              14. Arnaut
                Arnaut 2 January 2021 11: 17
                -4
                "There is Putin - there is Russia, there will be no Putin - there will be no Russia" (c)

                What can you repeat? God grant that there would be enough forces to keep the CAR.
              15. Narak-zempo
                Narak-zempo 2 January 2021 11: 25
                -2
                Yes, the CAR is now our everything. Sacred land. Ancient shrines, graves of ancestors, mined gold mines, the presence of which, however, will make it possible to launder and sell the exported gold reserves of the Russian Federation.
          2. Whirlwind
            Whirlwind 2 January 2021 18: 04
            +3
            The USSR was an order of magnitude more powerful nuclear power. So what? Where is the USSR?


            The USSR, underwater, is on a parallel course with the Russian Federation.
            The President of Russia and the Commander-in-Chief of the RF Armed Forces, Putin will give the command to surface this year, so everyone will get ready and hold on ...
            More than 500 lawsuits were filed by the NOD in 136 district courts with the aim of recognizing Gorbachev's decrees on the liquidation of the authorities of the Soviet Union UNLAWFUL.
            These are not saucepans on the heads of your unlucky ones ...
          3. Arnaut
            Arnaut 2 January 2021 18: 46
            -3
            That let your NOD (I don’t know what it is) sue the Lord God in Russian courts for expelling Adam and Eve from Paradise.
          4. Whirlwind
            Whirlwind 3 January 2021 08: 36
            0
            GCD (I don't know what it is)

            NOD is the National Liberation Movement for the sovereignty of the Russian Federation within the borders of the Soviet Union. The receiver, which is the RF-Russia according to the Constitution, i.e. according to the basic state law of the Russian Federation.
            Fasten your seat belts to avoid taking off on the 2021 roller coaster.
          5. Arnaut
            Arnaut 3 January 2021 09: 56
            -3
            Googled ...
            GCD is a modern "replica" of the Black Hundreds. "Guards" at the headquarters at one of the Kremlin towers.
            Most of the problems of modern Russia stem from the fact that the Russian elite knows very little about the history of their country.
            "Guards" are enough only for drinking at a budgetary expense and to fill the face of the next nerdy-gayropean (with a power ratio of 10 to 1). Well, to demonstrate to the rest of the towers the coolness of your tower. "Look, Tsar-Father, how many strong Russian men gathered for your protection, give me that deposit and a contract for this construction." Only when the real kneading begins, these all strong guys will scatter to the local gangs. Where were the Black Hundreds in 1917? Then they were all killed according to lists from the archives of the secret police.
          6. Whirlwind
            Whirlwind 3 January 2021 10: 19
            +2
            Googled ...

            Found a latrine for Naglo-Saxon propaganda. You googled in hell with devils ...
          7. Arnaut
            Arnaut 3 January 2021 12: 21
            -2
            Let me read the non-Saxon version.
            GCD are the new Black Hundreds?
            How does the NOD ideology differ from the Nazi ideology?
            Why aren't all Nodans imprisoned for extremism?
          8. Whirlwind
            Whirlwind 3 January 2021 17: 29
            +1
            How long has it been a pot instead of a head?
          9. Arnaut
            Arnaut 3 January 2021 20: 57
            -2
            In essence, can you answer?
          10. Whirlwind
            Whirlwind 4 January 2021 07: 26
            0
            In essence, can you answer?

            Long answered.
            "NOD is the National Liberation Movement for the sovereignty of the Russian Federation within the borders of the territory of the Soviet Union. The successor of which is the Russian Federation-Russia according to the Constitution, that is, according to the basic state law of the Russian Federation."
            That is the whole point.
          11. serezhasoldatow
            serezhasoldatow 6 January 2021 18: 52
            0
            In fact, it is very difficult to talk to pots and heads. This is for you for general development.
          12. Arnaut
            Arnaut 6 January 2021 21: 14
            -1
            For general development:
            1. Did I understand correctly that the SS man and the Nazi are your authority in the dispute?
            2. Learn materiel. This quote is attributed not to a tanker, but to Gauleiter Koch.
            3. And not the real Koch, but the literary hero of the enkevedist Medvedev. Moreover, the phrase was pronounced in a conversation in which Medvedev a priori could not hear.

            And now the specifics. You can prove the opposite and give evidence that Wittmann is the author of the quote you quoted. If not, then besides the fact that you are a Nazi sympathizer, you are also nonsense and yap. But this is only if you do not prove it. In the meantime, you are a decent and respected person.
          13. serezhasoldatow
            serezhasoldatow 6 January 2021 22: 04
            0
            All residents of Ukraine who hate Russia, always get out of it, transferring the conversation to a different direction. Bandera he is Bandera, a traitor to the Russian world. It is a pity that Khrushchev pardoned your ancestors. There would not have been so many dead, especially children, in your fratricidal war. Goodbye and do not clog the air with your ... nonsense. Pull the pan deeper over the heads.
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          15. serezhasoldatow
            serezhasoldatow 7 January 2021 18: 32
            0
            This is about you, not about your teacher.
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  • Skarpzd
    Skarpzd 2 January 2021 11: 42
    +3
    fighting in the woods? yes you are delirious my friend. there was a certain number of bandits. financed from abroad. what principles were they fighting for? stop it. bandits they are bandits. my grandfather. the foreman of the NKVD, instead of going home after three wars, drove this shobla, and drove not without success. from his words (eternal memory to him): these creatures are worse than the SS men, I am inclined to believe. a man who has gone through three wars, three times wounded, who has more awards than you have teeth for me, any more authority than your Bandera ruffians.
  • Arnaut
    Arnaut 2 January 2021 13: 06
    -3
    Yes Yes Yes...
    Bandits, shobla, scoundrels, creatures ...
    Only they are no longer in caches in the Ternopil region, but at the distance of a machine-gun shot from Donetsk and at a distance of a howitzer shot from Belgorod.
  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 6 January 2021 18: 55
    0
    We must honor the precepts of the Bandera grandfather. Under the pan, what do you think?
  • Arnaut
    Arnaut 6 January 2021 21: 20
    -1
    One of my grandfathers died in boilers in 1941.
    The second grandfather fought for three years as the commander of an anti-tank battery in a cavalry regiment. Alexander Nevsky, two Red Stars, World War II, and For Courage.

    So say hello to grandfather-Vlasov or Krasnov's cossack.
  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 6 January 2021 21: 57
    0
    Probably they still can't calm down from such a grandson.
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  • Skarpzd
    Skarpzd 2 January 2021 11: 43
    +4
    there will be no adult war. you give up earlier.
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 2 January 2021 15: 29
    +3
    Nobody and nobody confuses you. Read the story. 6,5 million Ukrainians passed through the Red Army, the NKVD troops, partisan detachments into the Great Patriotic War (and so that you do not distort, and 25 million Russians). Another 6 million Ukrainians in the evacuation forged Victory in the rear. 500 passed through the UPA and the nationalist underground. Six and a half million in the Army plus six million in factories versus five hundred thousand
    in your detachments and the underground, the difference is eye. And if it were not for Khrushchev and General Strokach, then your Bandera infection would have been eradicated. This was the way to go. I gave you a lafa after Stalin's death.
  • Arnaut
    Arnaut 2 January 2021 18: 52
    -4
    Where is the front line between Bandera and Moscow now?
  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 6 January 2021 18: 57
    0
    Look on ... the ukraine globe.
  • Arnaut
    Arnaut 6 January 2021 21: 22
    0
    And you are just Petrosyan's deputy at the topvar
  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 6 January 2021 22: 05
    0
    Such a guide is just for the potheads. Invite Psaki, she will definitely find the sea there.
  • Skarpzd
    Skarpzd 2 January 2021 02: 25
    +4
    here we have a good memory. Ukrainians remember Chechnya and Georgia well.
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  • Skarpzd
    Skarpzd 2 January 2021 11: 07
    +3
    good memory is always useful. and yes, Kadyrov is at the head of Chechnya. where is he without RF? realized his role and the throat of anyone now for the Russian Federation will tear. The question is - what did the Unsov creatures do there? How did it help Ukraine? did your dumb assistants help the brave Georgians? say thank you to the peacefulness of the Russian Federation. in 2014 during the year could you put things in order. they did not want blood. just understand that patience is not endless. sooner or later it will end.
  • Arnaut
    Arnaut 2 January 2021 11: 14
    -4
    Do not confuse "did not want" with "could not" and "not enough eggs."
  • Skarpzd
    Skarpzd 2 January 2021 11: 25
    +4
    that's just the point that they did not want. who needs hundreds if not two hundred? a bloodless operation similar to the Crimea would hardly have happened. Ukraine would have to be ironed like Syria. and in Ukraine, whatever one may say, most people are still normal. I don’t want their blood.
  • Mikle2000
    Mikle2000 3 January 2021 11: 10
    -2
    The funniest and saddest at the same time, such Russians sincerely do not understand what they say like Nazis, look like Nazis and, in general, are Nazis.
    For this, the claims to the glory of the grandfathers who won Nazism.
  • Arnaut
    Arnaut 3 January 2021 12: 23
    -3
    "Fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists" (c)
  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 6 January 2021 22: 09
    0
    Self-critical.
  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 6 January 2021 22: 08
    0
    And you certainly know what the Nazis look like. Even on New Year's Eve they walk the streets with torches. So we don't know.
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  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 7 January 2021 18: 34
    0
    Do not substitute concepts. Ukrainian nationalism is cube Nazism.
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  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 7 January 2021 22: 10
    0
    Bandera atrocities during the Great Patriotic War and in the civil war since 2014.
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  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 2 January 2021 15: 33
    +2
    Twenty unsovites? Would you like two full-blooded battalions? Or what did your people do in Transnistria? But there General Lebed clearly figured it out with you.
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  • Vall eremkin
    Vall eremkin 2 January 2021 15: 32
    +4
    We well remember the Ukrainians who fought in Chechnya and Georgia, and we do not stand shoulder to shoulder with the Russians, but on the contrary, and much earlier than 2014. So do not put pressure on the snot here. They will not forget.)) We do not care about your forget-me-nots.
  • Arnaut
    Arnaut 2 January 2021 19: 47
    -3
    No empty words.
    A link to serious material about two full-fledged battalions of Ukrainians in Chechnya is enough.
    Or admit that you are "Sovramshi".
  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 6 January 2021 22: 15
    0
    Catch ... the link if you are too lazy to click on the button.
    https://warchechnya-ru.turbopages.org/warchechnya.ru/s/ukrainskie-naemniki-na-chechenskoj-vojne/
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  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 7 January 2021 18: 38
    0
    Agitation, like your 95? This is not for me, this is for your ze. You read carefully and if you are so inquisitive, then press the buttons. You will learn a lot of useful things.
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  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 7 January 2021 22: 13
    0
    So read it to the end.
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  • Skarpzd
    Skarpzd 2 January 2021 11: 33
    0
    I personally find it funny
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 2 January 2021 15: 17
    +3
    Try and intelligibly explain why, immediately after the Maidan, ALL trees were cut down, which were hit by bullets. Or why, without understanding which weapon and who fired the bullets extracted by the anatomists and surgeons from the bodies of the victims, they were disposed of. Although, according to the norms of the Criminal Code, they should be stored. Or what Pashinsky took out of the House of Trade Unions. Or interviews with Georgian snipers who fired on the Maidan, who plainly admitted that they fired in both directions. Or try to intelligibly explain who shot dead and wounded law enforcement officers.
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 1 January 2021 17: 08
    +5
    Quote: Arnaut
    that they were willing to risk freedom, health, and even life for their beliefs.

    These are their beliefs. It is not a pity for the inadequate and insane. A question for you as a moralist. Have they achieved much by their convictions? These representatives of the "best" part of Ukraine, with their convictions, dirtied and finally ruined not only their country, but also dragged normal citizens to the bottom of them. I am generally silent about the war.
    1. Arnaut
      Arnaut 1 January 2021 18: 29
      -10%
      I do not consider it necessary to discuss the ideas of the Maidan here. For topvar.ru it is much more important that there are many people in the South-East of Russia who will fight for their ideas. And you can't ignore it. And petrosyanich won't help.
      1. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 6 January 2021 19: 01
        0
        In this state, it is very difficult to perceive reality.
    2. boris epstein
      boris epstein 2 January 2021 15: 42
      +4
      Don't want to discuss ideas? And what about the wild increase in utility tariffs from January 1? Electricity is almost doubled, from 0,9 hryvnia to 1 hryvnia? After all, this tariff is higher than in any country in Europe. Do you want to discuss the water blockade of Crimea either? But the main waterway of Ukraine, the Dnieper, originates in Russia, on the Valdai Upland. Vorskla, Oskol, Pripyat, Oster, Desna, Seversky Donets originate in Russia ... Shouldn't you drink water with "aggression molecules" for scrap? And the weapons produced in Russia, inherited from the USSR, do not burn your hands?
      1. Arnaut
        Arnaut 2 January 2021 19: 02
        -4
        Is there a problem with water in Crimea?
        Sorry, but I don't believe you. Putin promised to solve it a few years ago. And if Putin promised, he did it long ago. So don't rock the boat.
  • Stas Sv
    Stas Sv 1 January 2021 18: 31
    0
    I knew such and more than one, first for the idea, and then for the deputies (((
    Gave no sense.
    And then, and then what? We voted for the wrong idea. (((
    Interestingly, that navigator was never taken to any AK ...
  • sniperino
    sniperino 1 January 2021 20: 16
    +3
    Quote: Arnaut
    Your delusions are masterpiece ...
    Pans and other kitchen items appeared on their heads when they could get a trial and twelve days of arrest (this is at best) or be beaten.
    Aren't the saucepans from "Putin's zombie" about which Vasilyeva rubbed you in?
    1. Arnaut
      Arnaut 1 January 2021 20: 25
      -8
      I don't know who "Vasilyeva" is.
      I haven't heard of zombie bugs.
      I know the zomboy.

      Pans appeared as a response to the legal prohibition of wearing protective elements on the head. This is how the authorities tried to combat the wearing of bicycle and motorcycle helmets, construction helmets, etc. by demonstrators, which prevented the golden eagle from carrying out educational work among the population.
  • Pamir
    Pamir 3 January 2021 01: 08
    0
    Andrey, what a delusion? What kind of freedom, it is never and nowhere. What is there to understand about this term? To piss where I want? To undress to a goal where I feel like it? Yeah, and then someone wants your wife, nothing too, sit still "Well, freedom. What the hell is this freedom? Pavlensky, Pussy Ryit is freedom? What do they feed on in Ukraine? This is permissiveness. Neither in Ukraine, nor in the USA, nor in the EU, nor in the Russian Federation, anywhere, there is such freedom and It cannot be, this is a mantra for fools .. Yes, figs, nobody needs this. What you call "that they were ready to risk freedom, health and even life for their beliefs." This is pure Makhnovism. " the chapter before last, fucking-a. And not smart. I have nothing against Ukraine, I have a relationship, from Germany to Kazakhstan.
    With such a crap, in 2014, Yanik had every right to let the Berkut work in combat, and in combat, well, he drifted, now it's too late. What do the Potheads think that they have ground the Berkut with their bravery? Well, what nonsense, they were simply framed, if, Yanik gave, a clear order, the star would have seemed to the entire Maidan, who would have come out of the wheelhouse not damaged, of course. So it is not known how everything will end in the end. The Russian Federation is able to play for a long time. And so, I wish the Ukrainians to heal from the free mantra. And do not indulge your "ego", they die there both on the one hand and on the other, and The most important thing is meaningless. Well, who remembers the "Heavenly Hundred", several thousand people? Yes, about them in ten years to the thirtieth year, no one will remember.
    1. Bratkov Oleg
      Bratkov Oleg 3 January 2021 17: 40
      +1
      And China shot a couple of thousand of its "maydanutyh", and now, already brought the soil from the moon, which the same United States could not, filmed in the pavilion.
      And I would not shoot, right now some provinces of China would be at war with others.
      1. Arnaut
        Arnaut 3 January 2021 20: 55
        -2
        Gold words.
        Who is stopping Rossi from shooting his own couple of thousand maydonuts?
        After all, this is what prevents Russia from conquering the moon? When did they promise a base on the moon? And when is the industrial supply of helium?
        You understand that without the little rooster Sudaplatov in Russia and one Lekha Navalny (NeButerbrot) they cannot humanly poison ... Some of the hands, which are driven by columns of galenvagens across Moscow at the release of the FSB Academy.
      2. Bratkov Oleg
        Bratkov Oleg 22 January 2021 16: 23
        0
        So in China, the communists are in power, and we have long been liberals occupied the Kremlin. In fact, socialism ended on Khrushchev.
        Khrushchev gave the Armenian city of Kars to Turkey, together with the region.
        Khrushchev gave the Chinese Port Arthur and the Dalny port, together with the peninsula.
        Khrushchev began to raise the virgin soil, which, a little later, led to the purchase of grain in the United States. Since the USSR sold grain to its satellites, the grain from the United States was transported directly to Cuba, for example, on American ships, and the Americans laughed, like your socialism cannot feed itself. Brezhnev knew perfectly well about this, and continued to destroy pastures for livestock, and spread rot in areas where farming is profitable.
        This Stalin did not have time, overlooked. And then it was too late.
  • Labrador
    Labrador 1 January 2021 12: 39
    +2
    Here you need to understand: will it accelerate or lengthen?
  • Omskgasmyas
    Omskgasmyas 2 January 2021 06: 12
    -1
    This is when the bullet rolls downhill along the trajectory?
  • loki565
    loki565 1 January 2021 11: 47
    +10
    Here are just no sniper cartridges, and the machine gun gives a strong spread.
    1. novel66
      novel66 1 January 2021 12: 08
      +1
      and you need to stir up an armored car for it
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 16: 01
        +1
        Quote: novel xnumx
        and you need to stir up an armored car for it

        I saw special snipers on duty. I wonder how to secretly carry such a bandura? Not SVD, obviously. And further - are snipers in the Armed Forces disposable? Because on my shoulder I experienced a recoil of 12,7 mm. And SUCH a caliber, such a cartridge - just knock out the shoulder joint.
        They would do it right away - 76 mm to fight armored vehicles. Sniper ... laughing
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 1 January 2021 16: 45
          +1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          They would do it right away - 76 mm to fight armored vehicles. Sniper ...

          Intermediate. Between 76 and 12.
          And will not kill or "sniper" will not cripple laughing
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 16: 48
            +4
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Intermediate. Between 76 and 12.

            good laughing laughing A purely Ukrainian invention would be - no one in the world will repeat ... laughing
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 1 January 2021 17: 10
              0
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              A purely Ukrainian invention would be - no one in the world will repeat ...

              Why repeat?
              The main thing is to make noise and PR laughing
              We noticed that the main locust of the minus drivers got out.
              Apparently hungover already laughing
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 17: 19
                +1
                Quote: Lipchanin
                We noticed that the main locust of the minus drivers got out.
                Apparently hungover already

                We, too, are not "Shick" (Shick) shaves ... And we know how to hangover, and we know how to add. And we can do locust dust too ...
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 1 January 2021 17: 24
                  -1
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  And we can do locust dust too ...

                  Yes, it looks like no dust takes them laughing
                  In the OZK, the site is visited laughing
                  Therefore, they are not heralded, but only visible laughing
                  1. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 17: 29
                    0
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    In the OZK, the site is visited

                    Wearing a gas mask in front of the monitor is cool! good laughing laughing Although from yesterday at least wear a gas mask myself - in the mouth a herd of cows spent the night ... Only life-giving beer saves.
                  2. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 1 January 2021 17: 33
                    0
                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    Only life-giving beer saves.

                    And a little bit of vodka)
                    You don't need much, but diluting yesterday helps)
                    And it stimulates the locusts on the site to tease laughing
                  3. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 17: 40
                    +3
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    And a little bit of vodka)

                    Vodka is not good. This is a continuation of the holiday. No matter how much vodka is treated - everything is small. Cognac of the Kizlyar plant in moderation is the best solution. I consume it constantly, so I have a good supply at home. And who foolishly said that cognac and beer do not interfere? For me - a good post-New Year's decision ... Moreover, on Monday behind the wheel and to work ...
                  4. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 1 January 2021 17: 47
                    0
                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    This is a continuation of the holiday.

                    Duc to 14 a little bit left laughing
                    Cognac of the Kizlyar plant in moderation is the best solution.

                    There was a recipe for how to make "cognac" from vodka. Vodka is vodka, but it is difficult to distinguish from cognac by taste.
                    Before every holiday, and I have 2 of them, I do it all the time
                  5. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 18: 02
                    +2
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    Before every holiday, and I have 2 of them

                    I also have two - and in a row. Birthday and immediately after it - the anniversary of the withdrawal of troops from Afgan. February 14-15. These days, even at work, they try not to look for me. They know that if they find it, I can flash it in the face with a drink ...
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    There was a recipe for how to make "cognac" from vodka. Vodka is vodka, but it is difficult to distinguish from cognac by taste.
                    But my choice is Kizlyar. And inexpensive (about 700-800 rubles), and tasty, and high quality. In the summer, at the dacha in the workshop shed, there is always a bottle and a cup with chopped lemon-sugar. Like a smoke break - a couple of sips straight from the throat and a slice of sweet lemon. Tasty - like a woman ... laughing Usually a bottle is enough for a day. My wife is used to it - she hasn't sworn for a long time ...
                  6. Lipchanin
                    Lipchanin 1 January 2021 18: 25
                    0
                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    Birthday and immediately after it - the anniversary of the withdrawal of troops from Afgan.

                    I'm seriously celebrating NG and DR. I did not get to Afghani because the VUCH was not the same and had already demobilized.
                    And in Chechnya, too, with my VUS, they also advised me not to even meddle in the military registration and enlistment office. An extra load of 200 is not needed there.
                    And inexpensive (about 700-800 rubles)

                    Dear to me smile
                  7. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 19: 26
                    +2
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    Dear to me

                    "Branded" (and for me - more ponty) cognacs we cost 5-7 thousand. Not that I could not afford it - just a redneck gnaws. That kind of money for a bottle, albeit with aroma, but, in fact, diluted alcohol? And the Kizlyar "Russian" is not inferior to them in taste and smell.
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    And in Chechnya, too, with my VUS, they also advised me not to even meddle in the military registration and enlistment office. An extra load of 200 is not needed there.

                    I myself wanted to go to Donbass, but there is no one to leave my family and business to. Even though my father would have been alive ... Therefore, I finance from the company of volunteers - I have already sent 14 people. I buy them uniforms, equipment, money with me, for expenses and food, I give them. It's a pity, one "two hundredth" has returned, but the rest have taken root, are fighting.
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    with my VUS

                    I was rewritten at the military registration and enlistment office, when a new military ID was issued (the old Soviet soldier burned out in the fire) - they said that "there are no such assassins-saboteurs in our troops." Okay, at least they left the letter D at the end - and on that "thank you". With my father, by the way, we have the same VUS - he tried. Only I passed Herat and Kandahar, and where only the devils did not wind around the world ...
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 1 January 2021 17: 16
    +2
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    to combat armored vehicles

    The fact that they "invented" a replica of the Simonov anti-tank rifle, model 1941. (true in modern design), this is certainly an achievement. And in two whole copies. laughing
    1. Avior
      Avior 1 January 2021 19: 47
      -1
      It has nothing to do with the Simonov rifle.
      Recoil compensators in the form of barrel rollback and damper - there was nothing like that in the Simonov rifle.
      1. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 6 January 2021 22: 20
        0
        So this is a replica.
        1. Avior
          Avior 6 January 2021 23: 11
          +2
          A replica of what?
          1. serezhasoldatow
            serezhasoldatow 7 January 2021 18: 31
            0
            PTRS and PTRD, all in a heap and it turned out ... what happened. Replica
  • cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 1 January 2021 17: 29
    +1
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    Because on my shoulder I experienced a recoil of 12,7 mm. And SUCH caliber, such a cartridge - just knocks out the shoulder joint laughing
    PTRD
    PTRD-41 cartridge 14,5x114,3mm.
    PTRS
    PTRS cartridge is also 14,5x114,3mm.
    During the Second World War, they coped with recoil, even in Japan ...
    PTR Type 97
    Japanese PTR Type 97 cartridge 20x125mm
    PTR type 97
    PTR Type 97 with a shield, but without cartridges 68kg. soldier
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 17: 33
      +1
      Quote: cat Rusich
      During the Second World War, they coped with recoil, even in Japan ...

      The shoulder joint would be appropriate. I have weightlifting, KMS. I think I could. Does every Ukrainian Armed Forces conscript have this? I doubt it ...
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 1 January 2021 17: 43
        0
        Quote: Zoldat_A

        The shoulder joint would be appropriate. I have weightlifting, KMS. ...
        You can remove recoil using design solutions ...
        Tb 41
        Tb 41 on a wheeled machine.
        Tb 41
        Tb 41 on a tripod.
        Tb 41
        Tb 41
        Cartridge 24x139mm soldier
      2. Avior
        Avior 1 January 2021 19: 48
        +2
        Measures have been taken in the rifle to compensate for recoil.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 19: 53
          +1
          Quote: Avior
          Measures have been taken in the rifle to compensate for recoil.

          Yes, compensate or not - and I once experienced recoil from 12,7mm on my shoulder - I understood why our SVD snipers had and still have a favorite weapon. And with such a "bandura" once on the shoulder zhakhnet - the second time to shoot strength in the fingers will not be left ...
          1. Avior
            Avior 1 January 2021 20: 22
            -1
            For this, they compensate so that the recoil does not hit the shoulder
            Use barrel rollback when fired, dampers, muzzle brake
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 17: 42
      +1
      Quote: cat Rusich
      PTR Type 97 with a shield, but without cartridges 68kg.

      Transferred by four? Our three of us rolled the forty-five cannon ... Maybe we could attach the wheels to this one too?
  • novel66
    novel66 1 January 2021 17: 49
    0
    ptr was it ?? poured out of him ..
  • figwam
    figwam 1 January 2021 13: 06
    +3
    it is stated that it is 25 kg.

    PTRS sample 1941 weighed 21 kg, carried by two soldiers.
    1. Asad
      Asad 1 January 2021 14: 35
      +3
      Everyone understands perfectly well what about the speed of a bullet, a typo! And on the XADO website there is information about the anti-material rifle.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 1 January 2021 16: 46
      -2
      Quote: figvam
      PTRS sample 1941 weighed 21 kg, carried by two soldiers.

      But they did not move secretly and fired from the trench.
  • Shelest2000
    Shelest2000 1 January 2021 17: 03
    0
    Come on, it’s clear that it’s a typo.
    Much more interested in the deployed performance characteristics, especially MOA at different distances. As well as the used cartridges - before, special sniper cartridges of this caliber did not exist.
  • Avior
    Avior 1 January 2021 19: 43
    0
    Bullet initial speed 980m / s
  • zenion
    zenion 2 January 2021 16: 15
    0
    You haven't read it completely. The bullet flies 2 km. She has a meter. A few meters after 2 km. she releases her parachute and calmly lies down on the ground and buries herself. There are no prototypes for this weapon. In addition, it will be controlled from the armored car via the infrared channel by the remote control from the TV. If the bullet is shown on the screen, or the photo of the person who needs to be removed, then, flying out of the bore, the bullet hides and waits for the victim. The waiting time is one century. If during this time the victim is not within reach, the bullet returns to the one who sent it and makes a report.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 1 January 2021 11: 07
    +2
    One-time snipers will be included with such weapons, from
    calculating a dozen per barrel, and a couple for one shot. ...
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 1 January 2021 11: 47
      +7
      Quote: Thrifty
      go complete with such a weapon

      Here comes the kit
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 1 January 2021 12: 01
        +13
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Here comes the kit


        All with the coming NG, even Banderlog, for whom it will be the last!

        Something similar, but not in such a "kneeling-kneeling form" lol , we worked in pairs for firing at an aerial target (UAV) from the PK (M).

        "Number two", bending down, held the machine gun by the bipod on his shoulder, while we fired tracers at a target - a signal rocket ...

        Note that for the "second issue", acting as such a "machine", the impressions are still the same yes
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 04
          +1
          Quote: Insurgent
          I note that for the "second issue", the impressions are still the same

          Yes, and for the "first" How would you not shoot a friend's ear laughing
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 1 January 2021 12: 25
            +5
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Yes, and for the "first" How would you not shoot a friend's ear


            Shoot - not real No. , but "ringing" in the ears, the "second number" is guaranteed yes
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 48
              +2
              Quote: Insurgent
              Shoot - not real

              Is it unrealistic for the horses? belay
              You flatter them laughing
              1. serezhasoldatow
                serezhasoldatow 6 January 2021 22: 24
                0
                They use pans. So they won't shoot you.
        2. novel66
          novel66 1 January 2021 12: 10
          0
          especially in response to fire
        3. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 1 January 2021 12: 26
          -17%
          Not otherwise the spirit of Zakharchenko showed up ?!
          even Banderlog, for whom it will be the last!
          True, he announced the collapse of Dill in a few months.
          Eh, do not forget your funeral wishes, but remind you in a year, only you are one of those substances that a speck in the next eye will call the collapse of the universe ...
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 1 January 2021 12: 30
            +11
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Not otherwise the spirit of Zakharchenko showed up ?!


            Zakharchenko, killed by Bandera, you Leader, not to your liking?

            That you were the first to respond in such a manner to mine "congratulations to the banderlog"- says a lot about you.
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 1 January 2021 13: 56
              -10%
              If you consider the murder of Alexander Zakharchenko to be the work of the "ubiquitous Bandera", then I have nothing to add ...
              But, have I lied somewhere in his predictions? Or do you consider yourself a top-class Cassandra? Let's wait another year ...
              Although, if Bandera DRGs are so ubiquitous, then if I were you I would not leave the apartment!
          2. avdkrd
            avdkrd 3 January 2021 03: 17
            0
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Eh, don't forget your funeral wishes

            Do not forget. We are kind, we will even urinate on the grave. Although this can already be done without fear of making a mistake.
            What is 404 country? Territory dependent on IMF handouts and the ability to steal gas. All. With gas, the gesheft began to end, or rather, it will soon cease to begin, and the IMF needs 404 only in terms of collateral (like any usurer). The success of 404s in the arms market is usually associated with scandal. The largest of them are related to the sale of technologies to the USSR. Sale of radars, sale of c300. All. Everything related to production is already beyond the bounds. I even managed to make mortars more dangerous for their own. It is systemic. Experts, including Western experts, clearly indicate the West's unwillingness to breed competitors. 404, having severed relations with Russia, in the production chain, simply signed a verdict for herself. Ambition, mixed with racial superiority, we are Russians, we turned on a stake. The Sumerians are certainly cool, in general they are never Mongols, unlike us, light-eyed and fair-haired. This is sarcasm, if that.
            Not respected by me. Zakharchenko, was meanly killed, terrorized by a group and he was the leader. You are a minor misunderstanding to speak in a similar tone.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 3 January 2021 03: 26
              0
              Quote: avdkrd
              404, having severed relations with Russia, in the production chain, simply signed herself a verdict

              I've heard about it for five years already.
              Quote: avdkrd
              Zakharchenko, was meanly killed, terror by a group

              Do you know that there is such a version that ours ordered it?
              1. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 3 January 2021 08: 20
                -11%
                In the course of these versions, just not blinkered. And the bulk is like a herd of rams - they poured a convenient version into their ears, they nodded their manes, tomorrow the version becomes uncomfortable, they change it, but the instinct to wave a mane and look at only one point remains! ...
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 3 January 2021 08: 37
                  -2
                  Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                  And the bulk is like a herd of rams - they poured a convenient version into their ears, they nodded their manes, tomorrow the version becomes uncomfortable, they change it, but the instinct to wave a mane and look at only one point remains! ...

                  Read Pelevin.
                  1. The leader of the Redskins
                    The leader of the Redskins 3 January 2021 08: 46
                    -8
                    I don't like this author. I tried to read, but, as young people say, it didn't work. Although I love to read.
        4. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 30
          +4
          Locust swooped down laughing
          That they slept for a long time laughing
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 1 January 2021 12: 39
            +10
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Locust swooped down
            That they slept for a long time

            Leader them, they deigned to rest yes But now the fact that ... he is in place, "gave the go-ahead", and the "cons" of the offended ukrobander rushed.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 58
              +8
              Quote: Insurgent
              Their leader, they deigned to rest

              No, most likely the briefing was for this year laughing
              Locusts, are there a lot of minuses in the bosom?))))
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 16: 07
                +4
                Quote: Lipchanin
                No, most likely the briefing was for this year

                They waited for instructions from the Washington Regional Committee - that's why they were silent - there, after all, New Year comes later than on Dill ...
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 1 January 2021 16: 49
                  +4
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  They were waiting for instructions from the Washington Regional Committee

                  Duc owner is not yet clear who
                  Suddenly Trump will press the elections laughing
                  1. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 16: 59
                    +2
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    Suddenly Trump will press the elections

                    Looking at the American judicial system - anything can happen ... Their lawyers and Chikatilo would have acquitted ...
                    1. Lipchanin
                      Lipchanin 1 January 2021 17: 13
                      +3
                      Quote: Zoldat_A
                      Looking at the American judicial system, anything can happen ..

                      Yes, here I am about it. The courtroom system is unpredictable
        5. 113262a
          113262a 1 January 2021 13: 34
          +3
          There is a photo from the Second World War, and even BEFORE-there the Fritzes from MG shot like that! The second number has ears closed with palms!))) RS- They broke my collarbone! (((
        6. Arnaut
          Arnaut 1 January 2021 15: 26
          -3
          Last year again?
          I remember many urapatrites warmed themselves with the thought that Ukraine would not survive the winter of 2014-2015.
          It's winter 2020-2021 outside.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 16: 13
            +1
            Quote: Arnaut
            Last year again?
            I remember many urapatrites warmed themselves with the thought that Ukraine would not survive the winter of 2014-2015.
            It's winter 2020-2021 outside.

            Survived something. The question is HOW? Fun, easy and with hopes for a brighter future? And if not for the altruism of our "Darkest"? And if the gas pipeline was blocked in FIG and there would be nowhere to steal gas? Would you survive on dung?
            1. Arnaut
              Arnaut 1 January 2021 18: 16
              -3
              You are a little behind reality.
              Ukraine has not consumed Russian gas for a long time. And for a long time there have been no charges of theft.
              The transit contract was signed on Ukrainian terms. Russia has paid back its gas debts.
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 19: 30
                +5
                Quote: Arnaut
                Ukraine has not consumed Russian gas for a long time.

                I know, I know - European consumes. Just tell me - who produces it in Europe? Or has Surgut already become Europe?
                Quote: Arnaut
                And for a long time there have been no charges of theft.

                What's the point in blaming? They will refuse anyway ...
                1. Arnaut
                  Arnaut 1 January 2021 19: 40
                  -4
                  So what's the problem.
                  Stop supplying gas (and oil along with it) to Europe. What is the percentage of gasification in the Russian Federation?
                  Why not process gas in Russia and sell finished goods?

                  In 2020, there were moments when Russian gas for the population in some regions of Russia was more expensive than "European" gas for the Ukrainian population.

                  Guys, you can treat Ukraine and the Ukrainians as you like (although most of you have a grandmother from Mirgorod or a father-in-law from Kalush), but Petrosyans won't help.
                  If Ukraine is an enemy, then you need to know the enemy, and not live under the hypnosis of Solovyov and Kiselev.
                  1. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 19: 47
                    +2
                    Quote: Arnaut
                    Petrosyans will not help.
                    If Ukraine is an enemy, then you need to know the enemy, and not live under the hypnosis of Solovyov and Kiselev.

                    And I don’t live under hypnosis - I have one grandmother from Omsk, the second from Kuibyshev. In Ukraine, a cousin brother with a still living 98-year-old mother live - my aunt. And I will love Ukraine again when they themselves hang their Bandera on poles. Then, to the sound of their frozen carcasses, we'll talk about love and brotherhood ...
                    1. Arnaut
                      Arnaut 1 January 2021 20: 40
                      -8
                      Go online, see how many people are celebrating the 102nd birthday of Stepan Andreevich Bandera on the streets today.
                      Do you think someone will outweigh them?
                      Keep on coming to the world of pink ponies.
                      1. Zoldat_A
                        Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 20: 59
                        +5
                        Quote: Arnaut
                        Look how many people are celebrating on the streets today the 102nd birthday of Stepan Andreevich Bandera.
                        Do you think someone will outweigh them?
                        Keep on coming to the world of pink ponies.

                        This means that there will never be a holiday of peace and love with the Outskirts. Fascist henchmanwho destroyed his own people by order of the invaders, dressed in a Nazi uniform - I will never be mine ... And his adherent - too ... "Stepan Andreevich", damn it ... Add "respected" to the banderlog for good luck .. ...
                      2. Arnaut
                        Arnaut 1 January 2021 22: 20
                        -4
                        Can I have a photo of Bandera in Nazi uniform?
                        It so happened that the priest Andrei Bandera named his son Stepan. Then he was shot for this. It turned out Stepan Andreevich Bandera. I can tell you a lot of very bad things about him, but he is definitely not a fascist henchman, and I am not his adherent.

                        And the holiday of peace will not be very long. This is the reality of our world. And Petrosyans won't help here. And the worlds of pink ponies won't help either.
                      3. Zoldat_A
                        Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 22: 40
                        +3
                        Quote: Arnaut
                        Can I have a photo of Bandera in Nazi uniform?
                        Do you have expensive Internet or have Google turned off for non-payment? Sweet and harmless uncle ... In a shirt and shorts ...
                      4. Arnaut
                        Arnaut 1 January 2021 23: 00
                        -3
                        I realized that you have no photos of Bandera in Nazi uniform?
                        Although ... Bandera had a Nazi uniform - a striped robe during his imprisonment in the Sachsenhausen concentration camp (from September 1941 to September 1944)
                      5. Zoldat_A
                        Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 23: 05
                        +2
                        Quote: Arnaut
                        I realized that you have no photos of Bandera in Nazi uniform?

                        I'm just tired of the Hohlotroll ... You don't have to answer, although this is not in the Khokhlat tradition. To communicate with ukronatsik-do not respect yourself.
                      6. Arnaut
                        Arnaut 1 January 2021 23: 10
                        -3
                        Just don't need cheap show-off.
                        He said - prove it. If you can't - admit that you lie. What is the Russian army doing with those who are not responsible for their words?
                      7. Zoldat_A
                        Zoldat_A 2 January 2021 01: 51
                        +4
                        Quote: Arnaut
                        What is the Russian army doing with those who are not responsible for their words?

                        I would show on the tatami. And on the Internet, all the heroes ...
                      8. Arnaut
                        Arnaut 2 January 2021 09: 56
                        -2
                        On the tatami, would you show me a picture of Bandera in Nazi uniform?
                        Wouldn't show. Because you don't have it. And not in nature.
                        You just told a lie. To put it mildly.
                      9. The eye of the crying
                        The eye of the crying 2 January 2021 21: 00
                        -2
                        Quote: Zoldat_A
                        I would show on the tatami


                        Sorry, are you a weightlifter or a judoka / karate fighter?
                      10. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 3 January 2021 03: 37
                        +1
                        Quote: Eye of the Crying
                        Sorry, are you a weightlifter or a judoka / karate fighter?

                        He's a paratrooper, bratello ...
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 2 January 2021 16: 05
    +2
    And when you buy Russian gas from Europe, who are you putting shoes on? Russia? No, its own population and its own industry. The purchase of gas by Ukraine from Russia directly costs almost TWO! times cheaper. In 2020 (the land was glass wool), Russia pumped 65 billion cubic meters through Ukraine, and accordingly paid. Starting from January 1, it will pump 40 billion cubic meters in accordance with the agreement. Accordingly, the money will be shortened. And then South Stream - Bulgaria and Serbia began to receive Russian gas. Romania, Hungary and Austria are next in line, and there, you see, Nord Stream 2 will arrive in time. And China increased its gas purchases through the Power of Siberia by one and a half times. Here you will have scrap metal when you cut gas pipelines!
    1. Arnaut
      Arnaut 2 January 2021 19: 13
      -1
      What is the volume of the Turkish stream? How much did you plan? And what about South Stream? You see, you shouldn't be so nervous.
      Ukraine will receive its money for 40 million even if Russia has not pumped even one. But if on any of the days Russia exceeds the limit, it will pay an increased tariff.
      A SP-2 Miller and Putin promised to build by the end of 2019. But they did not take into account the spawning of fish. Poor zoology was taught at school. And from January 2021, the United States is introducing new life-giving sanctions against SP-2. So it's easier to let the Ukrainians disassemble the SP-2 at the border posts.
      Read how much is the planned payback period of the Power of Siberia (at the maximum historical price and at full load). And the fact that before they supplied nifiga, and now one and a half times more, then yes ... this is very serious.
      1. boris epstein
        boris epstein 3 January 2021 13: 54
        0
        Putin and Miller took into account the spawning of fish, but it is difficult to imagine the boundless arrogance on the part of the United States in the competition for gas for Europe. SP-2 would have been completed long ago if it had not been for the gendarme antics (sanctions) of the United States. But nothing. The United States is increasingly turning other countries and peoples against itself. The US gas is blown away - companies are going bankrupt. More and more of the world is putting a body under the sanctions. Despite the Rodchenkov law and the CAS ban, Russia hosted the World Cup in Skiing. And the Russian Bolshunov won the ski race. Germany completed the 2,6 km of Nord Stream-2 in its waters. Broken off Daniyu.Rossiya the limit will not exceed, throw away your wet dreams. Sutyazhniki, do not want to restore YOUR economy, strive only to snatch. Russia will need to carry gas and gas carriers. There are already gas liquefaction plants and gas carriers. And do not rely on the infinity of American help. If they have a crisis, they will also send Ukraine through the forest. The American sheriff does not care about the problems of white blacks. The IMF has already cut your aid program. So think not about the payback period of the Power of Siberia, but about the budget deficit of Ukraine for 2021 in 300 billion hryvnia. There are already official applications for the extension of the Power of Siberia to India, North Korea and the Republic of Korea (for the Great Bloods, I decipher the Republic of Korea). Yes, and South Stream will be completed in Italy and the south of France. So, as it was said in the movie "Visit to the Minotaur": "Only fools and idlers count someone else's money."
      2. Arnaut
        Arnaut 3 January 2021 14: 34
        -1
        Or maybe it's better to provide gas to the Moscow region?
      3. boris epstein
        boris epstein 3 January 2021 14: 56
        0
        "Only fools and idlers count other people's money." Write about Ukraine. Do not flood.
      4. Arnaut
        Arnaut 3 January 2021 15: 36
        -1
        So we write.
        Ukraine has made a powerful new rifle. A powerful anti-sniper complex is made on its basis.
      5. bootlegger
        bootlegger 3 January 2021 18: 44
        +1
        Maybe Ukraine also has a cartridge plant? )
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 3 January 2021 14: 59
    0
    Maybe it is better for Ukraine to buy Russian gas directly, because it will be much cheaper?
  • Arnaut
    Arnaut 3 January 2021 15: 34
    -1
    You don't know ...
    Now Ukraine is suing that Russia would sell gas to Ukraine at the price specified in the Treaty. If it works out, then Ukraine will buy gas at a price cheaper than Russian consumers (plus it will receive compensation for what it has not sold before). In the meantime, it is cheaper to buy in Europe.
    Taking into account the fact that Russian lawyers "loved" the Stockholm arbitration (although Gazprom and Russia) had all the trump cards in their hands, then Ukraine has a very good chance of getting a lot of free dollars. And you laugh, laugh ... After all, hahly, kakly, great Ukrainians, the fat fell, it is very, very funny.
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 3 January 2021 17: 07
    +1
    And what, floodilische, Ukraine has already paid 3,5 billion dollars to Russia, which it lost in a London court? Or do you not know? And the interest has also increased. As Mishka Gorbaty said, start with yourself. The Stockholm arbitration took not an economic, but a political decision. You see, Russia has to pay because Ukraine is in a difficult economic situation. Not an argument, but an anti-masterpiece! This anti-masterpiece refers to economic relations as a cousin's fence to our garden.
    "... Ukraine has a very good chance of getting a lot of free dollars."
    Yes, except for a freebie, you have not done anything in 30 years. But the freebie has a habit of running out.
    Indeed, in all conscience, in the Stockholm Arbitration, Ukraine SHOULD pay under the Take or Pay clause of the agreement, but refused to do so. But floodilischu is not interested. In general, either conduct the discussion honestly and admit your shortcomings, or I will not answer anymore.
  • Arnaut
    Arnaut 3 January 2021 20: 37
    0
    Oh ... And where to read the decision of the London court? And then we have this prohibited information :-) Give a link to the unfortunate hahlu.
    I wonder what reason you can think of not to give a link :-)
    You see ... There is no such thing as "conscience" in court. There are documents, there are contracts, there are laws, there are arguments from the parties. But there is no conscience.
    The powers of the Stockholm court are VOLUNTARYLY recognized by Russia. The results of the examination were recognized by Russia. It's just that Ukrainian lawyers described the Russian ones as a god of the tortoise. Where is the schoolchild to fight the elite punks :-) And they will write more than once. Paid once - now you will pay regularly.
    There, too, the Poles won over Gazprom out of thin air. And Gazprom will pay. Because there are no eggs.
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 4 January 2021 15: 53
    0
    About prohibited information. National writer of Ukraine-Ostap Vishnya. Here's one of his currently banned works. Read, you recognize yourself
    "Ostap Cherry about Ukrainization."
  • Arnaut
    Arnaut 4 January 2021 21: 14
    -1
    Ostap Vishnya wrote about the decision of the London court? Where to read?
  • boris epstein
    boris epstein 5 January 2021 14: 03
    0
    Have not read, but condemn? This is the whole "Velikoukr". And you can not read, this work is prohibited in Ukraine. Political economy, logic, honor, conscience, reason are forbidden. And we studied Ostap Vishnya at school. You have never heard of such a Ukrainian writer. Your Tsymbalyuk was kicked out of Putin's straight line for meanness and distortion. You, Bandera supporters, would be banned, the rest of normal Ukrainians would have a better life.
  • Arnaut
    Arnaut 6 January 2021 00: 22
    0
    "Ostap carried ..." (C)
    I live on Ostap Vishny Street.
    But don't get off topic. Where can you read about the decision of the London court?
  • Lipchanin
    Lipchanin 1 January 2021 16: 51
    -3
    Quote: Arnaut
    that Ukraine will not survive the winter 2014-2015.
    It's winter 2020-2021 outside.

    Well, agonize more
    1. Arnaut
      Arnaut 1 January 2021 18: 17
      -5
      Dreaming further.
  • serezhasoldatow
    serezhasoldatow 6 January 2021 22: 28
    0
    Do you live?
  • novel66
    novel66 1 January 2021 12: 09
    +10

    this is how it will be better
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 12
      +3
      Quote: novel xnumx
      this is how it will be better

      Yes, everything would be difficult for you laughing
      How many drugs are involved laughing
      1. novel66
        novel66 1 January 2021 12: 13
        +2
        and the efficiency increases lol
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 16
          +1
          Quote: novel xnumx
          and the efficiency increases

          The spine?
          And how to skedaddle with radiculitis? laughing
          1. novel66
            novel66 1 January 2021 12: 23
            0
            not in their habits - drop everything and skip!
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 31
              0
              That's it in their
              Such a country got drunk
              1. novel66
                novel66 1 January 2021 12: 32
                0
                not a country, but a part of the country, and until they understand this, they will not be happy
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 1 January 2021 13: 01
                  +1
                  No . It will not work with Donbass, the entire outskirts will crumble.
                  Did you see how many locusts came in?
                  These are the "first swallows" laughing
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 1 January 2021 13: 16
                    +2
                    I meant the whole 404, it is part of the whole, and it cannot exist without it
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 1 January 2021 12: 31
      +3
      Why did you declassify a hypersonic weapon of the Ukrainian Armed Forces with your photo?
      1. novel66
        novel66 1 January 2021 12: 33
        +3
        and I'm a Muscovite spygun !! lol
  • sniperino
    sniperino 1 January 2021 20: 38
    +1
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Rump of a wide-backed male
    More convenient than the parapet, gun carriage and bed.
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    2. Skifotavr
      Skifotavr 2 January 2021 01: 37
      0
      Quote: sniperino
      Quote: Lipchanin
      Rump of a wide-backed male
      More convenient than the parapet, gun carriage and bed.

      Then the underbarrel flamethrower wink
  • sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 1 January 2021 22: 12
    0
    So-a-ak, so there is already an excuse for wounded in the "loin" part - it was used instead of bipods by a sniper!
    Although this position provides the sniper not only with an emphasis under the barrel and elbows, but also with real bulletproof protection.
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 1 January 2021 12: 10
    +5
    Quote: Thrifty
    one shot. ...

    - Why do you need this?
    -Here is the last patron, I kept it for myself.
    -And why the optical sight? In order not to miss?
    "Two comrades served"
    1. novel66
      novel66 1 January 2021 12: 15
      +5
      cool moment !!!
  • Kerensky
    Kerensky 1 January 2021 11: 13
    +3
    Here warrant officers will be delighted all over the world! How many such cartridges have been trained in garages, and who are you going to throw in ?! For sinkers?
  • mark2
    mark2 1 January 2021 11: 14
    +2
    What's this? Will it now be atillery among Ukrainians? Boats are considered by the niz by the navy.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 1 January 2021 11: 38
      +1
      Quote: mark2
      Boats are considered by the niz by the navy.

      And the rafts too? lol
      1. novel66
        novel66 1 January 2021 12: 24
        0
        good raft missile cruiser maybe lol
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 34
          -1
          Yes easily

          1. novel66
            novel66 1 January 2021 12: 36
            +1
            great sea power
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 1 January 2021 13: 20
              -1
              Quote: novel xnumx
              great sea power

              Yes, with such a fleet ...


              1. paco.soto
                paco.soto 1 January 2021 13: 46
                0
                Lipchanin
                Today, 13: 20

                -2
                Quote: novel xnumx
                great sea power

                Yes, with such a fleet ©
                Lipchanin, Happy New Year and the best. I ask you from a hangover: do not litter the forum, please, sorry for the time spent watching, found one of the photos
                1. ender
                  ender 1 January 2021 14: 03
                  +7
                  "don't litter the forum"

                  and the photo of the paper boat is from Germany
                  https://wiadomosci.wp.pl/9-metrowa-lodz-z-papieru-6038704736608897g
                2. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 1 January 2021 16: 55
                  -6
                  Quote: paco.soto
                  do not litter the forum please

                  And minus players do not clog up7
                  Well, why did you take on the responsibilities of the Administration?
                  I don't like it, there is such a button "Complain"
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 1 January 2021 11: 17
    +8
    And not a word about accuracy ... What is most important for a sniper rifle. PTR in this caliber was hit by German tanks near Moscow in 41st. But only the dispersion was great.
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 1 January 2021 11: 37
      +8
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And not a word about accuracy ... What is most important for a sniper rifle. PTR in this caliber was hit by German tanks near Moscow in 41st. But only the dispersion was great.

      Again, the question of ammunition ... Shall shoot from KPVT? Since storage of Soviet times? Anyone who shoots at long distances or a hunter knows that the cartridge is important. I am not familiar with reloading on such a caliber ... where to get the components? , what is the difference from the PTR with optics?
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 1 January 2021 12: 59
        +3
        Quote: Barkhan
        Based on this, what is the difference from the PTR with optics?

        Nothing. Ergonomics only. And camouflage. laughing
        1. novel66
          novel66 1 January 2021 13: 40
          +1
          and weight, mabut
    2. novel66
      novel66 1 January 2021 13: 39
      +1
      fell into the viewing slots, what else
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 1 January 2021 13: 55
        +1
        They didn't, just by accident. I read a wartime report on the dispersal of PTR. In the slot only point-blank.
        More than a meter across at 300 meters. Use any optics ...
        1. novel66
          novel66 1 January 2021 14: 12
          +1
          but still instructions .. on the cracks and caterpillars ... and how?
  • Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 1 January 2021 11: 17
    +7
    A killer thing on the plain.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 January 2021 11: 30
      +3
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      A killer thing on the plain.

      Here you think correctly, how can you not know what it is, not by hearsay. Happy New Years to you, and the main thing is not to get sick.
    2. novel66
      novel66 1 January 2021 12: 25
      +1
      for a shooter, such shit and from space, go and see
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 37
        +1
        Quote: novel xnumx
        for a shooter, such shit and from space, go and see

        Thirsty from Mars
        1. novel66
          novel66 1 January 2021 12: 47
          0
          and from jupiter lol lol especially
          1. Albert1988
            Albert1988 1 January 2021 15: 17
            0
            Quote: novel xnumx
            and from jupiter

            It's Saturn! laughing laughing laughing
            1. novel66
              novel66 1 January 2021 17: 47
              0
              eprst .... the review is out lol ...
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  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 1 January 2021 11: 24
    +4
    In Russia, too, they started to develop a device of 14,5 mm (there was somehow a message ...) ... but for a long time nothing has been heard about the "continuation"! In "News from Donbass" there were reports about the adoption of sniper rifles in 12,7 mm caliber by the DPR Armed Forces; 14,5 mm; 23 mm .... There were also pictures of the "improved" PTR (S) and PTR (D) ... that is, with telescopic sights and new diesel fuel ... Only it was difficult to understand who they belonged to! The pictures had "signatures" ... either the DPR or the APU ...
    1. D16
      D16 1 January 2021 14: 45
      0
      In Russia, too, they started to develop a 14,5 mm device

      But first you need to find fools who will carry them and use them for their intended purpose. lol .
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 1 January 2021 11: 27
    +9
    Yes, already tired of these 404s, it would be time in the New Year and forget about them.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 1 January 2021 11: 40
      +3
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Yes, already tired of these 404s, it would be time in the New Year and forget about them.

      Yes, they don't.
      Presikloun already almost directly stated that he was just waiting for the baidat to start the war
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 1 January 2021 11: 50
        +3
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Yes, they don't.
        Presikloun already almost directly stated that he was just waiting for the baidat to start the war

        That's what a clown is, to make people laugh, but not to fulfill the promises of the owners.
        And we don't give a damn about Ze and the owners, Russia raises the sail.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 1 January 2021 12: 06
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          And we don't give a damn about Ze and the owners,

          Yes, there is no smoke without fire.
          The tanks were not in vain
          1. novel66
            novel66 1 January 2021 12: 48
            0
            in such quantity
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 1 January 2021 13: 36
            0
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Yes, there is no smoke without fire.
            The tanks were not in vain

            Yes, and let them withdraw, with a larger tank, a smaller tank, they will still be burned.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 1 January 2021 13: 43
              +1
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Yes, and let them withdraw, with a larger tank, a smaller tank, they will still be burned.

              We don't need a second war
              A lot of money goes to Syria
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 1 January 2021 13: 59
                0
                Quote: Lipchanin
                We don't need a second war
                A lot of money goes to Syria

                Syria is far away, but Donbass is nearby, and our people are there.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 1 January 2021 16: 58
                  0
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  and Donbass is nearby, and our people are there.

                  Yes, that's understandable. But you don't need to start by yourself
                  Will pop up and Syria will wait
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 1 January 2021 17: 07
                    0
                    Quote: Lipchanin
                    Will pop up and Syria will wait

                    Of course he will wait when things are out of order in his stable.
                    1. O-2-2
                      O-2-2 1 January 2021 17: 27
                      +1
                      From the Estonian-Transbaikal stable! Go clean up the manure! )))
                      1. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 1 January 2021 17: 32
                        0
                        Quote: O-2-2
                        From the Estonian-Transbaikal stable! Go clean up the manure!

                        Well, everything is in order in Estonia and Transbaikalia, so you put things in order in your country, and only then you can give advice. Mykola, did you understand that ????
                      2. O-2-2
                        O-2-2 1 January 2021 17: 38
                        +1
                        Likewise! Order in Transbaikalia ?! Wow! It's funny again! Mikolai, he is Nikolai the holy name! Highly!
                        Give a shovel?
                      3. tihonmarine
                        tihonmarine 1 January 2021 17: 44
                        -1
                        Quote: O-2-2
                        Likewise! Order in Transbaikalia ?! Wow! It's funny again! Mikolai, he is Nikolai the holy name! Highly!
                        Give a shovel?

                        No, we did not dig the Black Sea, buy a Finnish shovel, and continue digging the Indian Ocean. With best regards , Tikhon.
                      4. O-2-2
                        O-2-2 1 January 2021 17: 54
                        +1
                        Take care of the Dnieper! You have fools, just like we have enough. But you will probably have more mind to quote nonsense! )
  • Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 1 January 2021 12: 02
    +5
    The Sumerians paint junk from the warehouses of the PTRD and PTRS, hang up the plastic body kit and importantly declare that now de "tremble, cotton wool!" laughing ... For a pots-headed prancing herd, unable to think critically, this is another "overmog" lol
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 1 January 2021 12: 20
    +3
    They themselves cannot think of anything. No. Almost the same PTRS-41 (Simonov anti-tank rifle) only in an improved version.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 January 2021 14: 00
      0
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      Almost the same PTRS-41 (Simonov anti-tank rifle) only in an improved version.

      The cartridge is different.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 1 January 2021 12: 20
    0
    We'll have to call Klitschko into the army, carry such pieces of iron.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 January 2021 14: 00
      +1
      Quote: Ros 56
      We'll have to call Klitschko into the army, carry such pieces of iron.

      Born to yelp, he cannot carry.
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 1 January 2021 12: 29
    0
    Every day something is "adopted" into service ... And what did they do before, "fought"?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 January 2021 14: 01
      0
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Every day something is "adopted" into service ... And what did they do before, "fought"?

      KO-44, yes "Kalash".
  • silverura
    silverura 1 January 2021 12: 30
    +4
    The news is so-so, as for me nothing good - a means for slaughter.
    The entire sofa division with the coming New Year! Let there be less shooting and more peace this year! drinks wink
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 January 2021 17: 10
      -5
      Quote: silverura
      The entire sofa division with the coming New Year! Let there be less shooting and more peace this year!

      It all depends on the amount of vodka taken.
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 1 January 2021 12: 33
    +2
    What's the purpose for this caliber? 14,7mm is not a sniper cartridge ... but there are no imported ones in this caliber.
    1. silverura
      silverura 1 January 2021 12: 39
      -1
      14,7mm is not a sniper cartridge ... but there are no imported ones in this caliber.
      I heard that the Mayak plant has mastered the production of these slaughtering agents.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 1 January 2021 12: 50
        +2
        There may be cartridges ... but we don't have sniper cartridges in this caliber ... there are armor-piercing incendiary and tracer cartridges, I think.
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 1 January 2021 13: 23
          +3
          Small-scale production was mastered at "Mayak". Bullet from. 510 "caliber in a case of 14,5 × 114 on" slow powder "
    2. Avior
      Avior 1 January 2021 13: 17
      +4
      Anti-material rifle
    3. Kerensky
      Kerensky 1 January 2021 19: 33
      +1
      What is the purpose for this caliber? 14,7mm non sniper cartridge

      It's not about people, but about materiel. Shoot a tank there, a transformer, a helicopter in the parking lot ...
      Will I get into the helicopter at the stated distance? Better in the engine. And he won't fly anywhere ...
      Or into a transformer? It is necessary to change ... And I and in a new one ... in the third ... but is there so much in warehouses?
      1. strannik1985
        strannik1985 1 January 2021 20: 01
        -1
        is there so much in warehouses?

        How long a sniper group (from 3 people) will live with such a rifle depends only on the presence / absence of the enemy's anti-sniper systems.
        Now this solution is popular, especially among not particularly rich countries, but rather controversial.
        1. Kerensky
          Kerensky 2 January 2021 07: 01
          0
          How long a sniper group (from 3 people) will live with such a rifle depends only on the presence / absence of the enemy's anti-sniper systems.

          You can't cover everything. There is no need to meddle in the headquarters - airfields, it is possible to do a good job on communications.
          It used to be that the partisans had to get right under the rails, or into the barn with matches. Now shmalnul straight from the forest through the tube from the grenade launcher (to increase stealth).
          Trains are generally nice to hit.
          1. strannik1985
            strannik1985 2 January 2021 07: 59
            0
            You can't cover everything

            I very much doubt that it will be dragged across the front line, it is rather an ersatz - replacement of heavy weapons, which, according to the Minsk agreements, should be withdrawn.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 1 January 2021 12: 49
    0
    I wonder what order the manufacturer received from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and not the very fact of adopting this rifle. Ukraine is full of examples of the massive use of weapons that are not accepted for service. (Molot mortar)
  • Machete
    Machete 1 January 2021 12: 51
    -2
    In short, the PTR of the 21st century.
    Bravo, this is a peremoga.
  • wow
    wow 1 January 2021 12: 54
    -5
    Better to have adopted toilet paper and airbags for burp ... (puke).
  • Avior
    Avior 1 January 2021 13: 16
    +9
    It is unclear how the author took it that these were sniper rifles.
    They are antimaterial, not sniper. They are positioned as a means against equipment, including lightly armored.
    1. 72jora72
      72jora72 1 January 2021 13: 42
      +5
      They are antimaterial, not sniper.
      They are produced and used in many countries, I already gave an example a couple of days ago.
      here is Mechem NTW-20

      South Africa Anti-material rifle. Caliber 20mm weight 31 kg
      and here's another:

      The Steyr AMR / IWS 2000 is a high-precision (sniper) smooth-bore shotgun designed to destroy light armored vehicles at a considerable distance (up to 2500 m) Austria. 15,2 × 169 mm cartridge, weight 18 kg.
      1. Avior
        Avior 1 January 2021 14: 00
        +5
        Yes, they are not that very common, but not uncommon.
        Includes recoil devices, muzzle brake, butt dampers to reduce recoil. There is a field of application.
  • engy
    engy 1 January 2021 13: 27
    +1
    By the way, are the barrels purchased again, as has always been the case with the production of rifled weapons in Ukraine?
    1. bobba94
      bobba94 1 January 2021 15: 05
      +3
      There are no problems with the barrels, no purchases, everything is yours ..... You take the KPV barrel, put a little work and imagination and the barrel from the Vladimirov's large-caliber machine gun turns, the barrel turns into an elegant XADO sniper rifle. It's funny, some kind of production cooperative that appeared in the early 90s in Kharkov and sells motor oils, additives and automotive chemicals, suddenly starts sculpting small arms.
  • orcinus
    orcinus 1 January 2021 13: 28
    +1
    Throw off a better photo of the calculation - there are clearly very athletic guys)
  • paco.soto
    paco.soto 1 January 2021 13: 30
    +1
    Happy New Year everyone!
    On the subject: a serious weapon, if you look.
    1. uncle Vlad
      uncle Vlad 5 January 2021 19: 11
      0
      And then what they hid with the poor man. With such dedication, he is a regular client of traumatology.
      1. paco.soto
        paco.soto 6 January 2021 17: 44
        0
        uncle Vlad
        uncle Vlad
        Yesterday, 19: 11

        0
        And then what they hid with the poor man. With such dedication, a regular customer of ©
        They hid their face - probably an active operative.
        There is no traumatic recoil in the video.
  • aleks neym_2
    aleks neym_2 1 January 2021 13: 45
    +3
    Well, what have you got to the 980 km? Obviously a typo! But to carry such a fool? - so the same whole department will be required. That would be a 20 mm caliber - that's already something. Happy New Year to everyone and wish that 21 was better than 20, but WORSE than 22 !!! (This is me with a sniper scope - at a great distance. I dream and hope)
  • dgonni
    dgonni 1 January 2021 14: 06
    +2
    A special tool for performing a limited range of tasks. With precision if it is Kharkiv Khado should be fine. Even very normal. But that is.
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 1 January 2021 14: 43
    +3
    Apparently the Kharkiv firm "Khado" made this rifle with an aim mainly for export, there are not many antimaterial rifles on the market in this or approximately this caliber
  • Old26
    Old26 1 January 2021 15: 36
    -1
    Quote: D16
    But first you need to find fools who will carry them and use them for their intended purpose.

    If you are one of the numbers of this sniper crew - drag it like a nice little one.

    Quote: aleks neym_2
    Well, what have you got to the 980 km? Obviously a typo!

    Not at all. I fully admit that this is exactly the speed that the "bullet" of this rifle has. It is simply unusual to use velocities expressed in km / h rather than in m / s when talking about small arms. And in fact, the speed is 272 m / s, subsonic, like many sniper rifles.
    1. Avior
      Avior 1 January 2021 19: 34
      +3
      The initial speed of the bullet is 980 m / s
      The article is just a typo
      https://snipex.com/14-5.html
  • tasha
    tasha 1 January 2021 16: 39
    +2
    Relatively cheap cartridge, decent rate of fire, optics ..
    A very harmful thing ...
  • O-2-2
    O-2-2 1 January 2021 16: 45
    +5
    On VO for one news from the Russian Federation fifteen from Ukraine? Why are you not letting pensioners-Petrosyans sleep! Have a conscience! And the Tallinn guran Tikhon with Marina and Lipchanin, who by 60 did not have time to join the USSR army, and Roman69, and a German from near Kandahar! You can not do it this way! Jokes, jokes, cheap cartoons, etc.
    New Year with the Russian Federation is coming to us! And 90 tanks to the insurgent! That's how we live!
    And what about the article ?! And do not care !!! )
  • fa2998
    fa2998 1 January 2021 17: 58
    +2
    Quote: novel xnumx
    and you need to stir up an armored car for it

    Quote: Zoldat_A
    And SUCH a caliber, such a cartridge - just knock out the shoulder joint.

    In the USSR, the PTRD and PTRD 114x14,5 mm fought excellently on foot (without armored cars) and were not crippled.
    I think since then they have made even more effective muzzle brakes, and amortization. It is not necessary to do everything. There are good personnel in Ukraine. hi
  • Gippo
    Gippo 1 January 2021 19: 34
    -2
    Sniper rifle and bipod with barrel mount (hand-to-face)
  • boriz
    boriz 1 January 2021 21: 02
    +1
    Something tells me that this is just a PTDD of their APU stocks. The militia did it 5 years ago, without noise and loud English names.
    If only simply because there is no technology for making high-quality barrels in Ukraine.
    They modestly write nothing about the patron. And the PTRD has a cartridge, just 14,5 X 114. Perhaps (it is not specified, with or without the barrel length of the "ukrovintovka" or without), they cut off 15 cm of the barrel, made a fashionable body kit, muzzle brake / flame arrester "and that's all, great override! "
    Now they're blowing their cheeks: UKRAINIAN sniper rifle! Yeah ...
    1. Avior
      Avior 1 January 2021 23: 12
      +1
      This "something" lies to you.
      The described rifle uses a barrel rollback with a floating barrel and magazine loading, the PTRD did not have this.
      Besides, one of them is a bul-dad.
      1. boriz
        boriz 2 January 2021 00: 09
        +1
        Not everyone has a store. https://snipex.com/14-5.html
        And, most importantly, the trunk. Modifying the bolt carrier is not a problem.
        And with the trunks in the Square, as far as I heard, the problem. Vitality leaves much to be desired.
  • Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 1 January 2021 21: 19
    0
    I'm not a sniper, hunter. But the hell, how to carry it? All this is nonsense.
    1. Avior
      Avior 1 January 2021 23: 13
      0
      They dragged the war similar to the weight and size indicators of the MTR, and the antimaterial ones in the world are dragged around even now.
      1. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 1 January 2021 23: 38
        +1
        If you don’t know, then two people provided the PTR. Yes, they did ... I understand how to fight against tanks, but ...
  • Skifotavr
    Skifotavr 2 January 2021 01: 34
    -2
    I don’t remember how many years ago there was a message that in Russia work began on the creation of its own large-caliber sniper rifle of 14,5 mm caliber with a clamped sleeve from a 23 mm projectile to defeat lightly armored vehicles. And what's there? Have you changed your mind?
    1. Skifotavr
      Skifotavr 3 January 2021 04: 10
      0
      I see ... smile
  • sen
    sen 2 January 2021 05: 27
    0
    Enough. In the DLNR, the wartime PTR with a telescopic sight has long been used. There is also a more powerful one. On TV they showed a 23-mm rifle on a machine.
  • avdkrd
    avdkrd 3 January 2021 02: 37
    0
    The reason for pride is not entirely clear. The PTRS had an initial bullet velocity of 1020m / s (versus 980), a length of 2108 (versus 2000mm), a barrel length of 1350 (versus 1200). In my opinion, if you constructively repeat the PTRS, but apply new materials and technologies, then the result will be better than that of the Sumerians.
    A niche for use, only a local conflict with a stable front line, where there is no big difference - deliver to the Kord position (weight 25.5 kg) or a one-shot squeak with the same weight. Considering that Kord has a barrel length of 1350mm and an muzzle velocity of 1020 (everything is the same as for PTRS except for the caliber), I would not be surprised that the accuracy when using a sniper ammunition will be at the same level.
  • pba50
    pba50 3 January 2021 06: 15
    0
    from the Stalinist ptr. I'm already a terrorist with my superiors. I force my superiors to work. keep silent scrabble and shit and me too.Nikolai Levashov LIE STEAL KILL https://www.youtube.com/watch? v = eRKoak2UM9U
  • pba50
    pba50 3 January 2021 06: 18
    0
    Quote: avdkrd
    The reason for pride is not entirely clear. The PTRS had an initial bullet velocity of 1020m / s (versus 980), a length of 2108 (versus 2000mm), a barrel length of 1350 (versus 1200). In my opinion, if you constructively repeat the PTRS, but apply new materials and technologies, then the result will be better than that of the Sumerians.
    A niche for use, only a local conflict with a stable front line, where there is no big difference - deliver to the Kord position (weight 25.5 kg) or a one-shot squeak with the same weight. Considering that Kord has a barrel length of 1350mm and an muzzle velocity of 1020 (everything is the same as for PTRS except for the caliber), I would not be surprised that the accuracy when using a sniper ammunition will be at the same level.
  • Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 3 January 2021 08: 11
    +1
    Dear colleagues!
    The article is, in fact, about snipers, and you lit an empty flood with an ordinary troll under the nickname "Arnaut".
    To ignore him, and all the cases ... hi
    Happy New Year to all! drinks
  • Hiller
    Hiller 3 January 2021 11: 04
    0
    Another shameless theft of the well-forgotten Soviet defense industry.

  • Arnaut
    Arnaut 3 January 2021 11: 33
    0
    Quote: Pamir
    RF knows how to play for a long time.

    TA-dah...
    The last thirty are solid multi-moves. After each, Russia loses another ally and receives a blow from the lower back.
    But the urapatriots are doing well, only giggles and hakhonki. We will cut them all out with Finns alone ... Only Putin will give the order. There will be no order, but there will be another "parade" at the next Olympics under the white flags.
    1. don carleone
      don carleone 3 January 2021 20: 02
      +1
      receives a blow from the lower back.


      Do not transfer from the patient to the healthy. Indeed, in Ukraine, it is now recognized at the state level as normal sexual relations. LGBT parades periodically take place and bring culture to the masses. How do you want? You will not be in the ass, Europe will not understand and accept you.
      This is how in Russia they recognize their own or someone else's with the question "Crimea is ours?", So in the West, the question "will you give it in the ass?"
      1. Arnaut
        Arnaut 3 January 2021 20: 25
        0
        In Russia, of course, LGBT people are still that fetish ...
        All priests are homosexuals, AUE introduces convicts around the culture, every second fagot is on the stage, Gazprom Miller heads, Caucasians put Slavs on bottles in the army, in Volgograd (Stalingrad) detainees are raped by all ROVDs, but Russians are interested in: "how is it with LGBT people in Ukraine" ...
        1. don carleone
          don carleone 3 January 2021 20: 49
          +1
          The family is not without freaks. But we don't call black white. And homosexuality is a perversion that has existed at all times. And the point is not in the very existence of homosexuals, but in the fact that abomination is recognized as the norm. And Russia, thank God, did not come to that.
          1. Arnaut
            Arnaut 3 January 2021 21: 17
            0
            Look ...
            We admit that two adults can do whatever they want with each other. The main thing is that it would be without violence and that it would be adults. To me personally, many things are disgusting, but this is their choice. The main thing is that people do not need to resort to violence to satisfy their perverse fantasies.
            And you admit that the norm is the silence of forced homosexuality in the Russian Orthodox Church, in colonies, in the army, in the police. Everyone knows, but they stubbornly keep silent about the children raped by the priests, about the orphanages "dropped" by the AUEs, and so on. Because braces, Russian spirituality, etc. "No need to endure quarrels in public" (c)
            1. don carleone
              don carleone 3 January 2021 21: 42
              0
              We admit that two adults can do whatever they want with each other.

              Not just recognized, but perversion is recognized as the norm.


              And you admit that the norm is the silence of forced homosexuality in the Russian Orthodox Church, in colonies, in the army, in the police. Everyone knows, but they stubbornly keep silent about the children raped by the priests, about the orphanages "dropped" by the AUEs, and so on. Because braces, Russian spirituality, etc. "No need to endure quarrels in public" (c)


              None of the above is recognized by the norm, and is considered a perversion, and even punished. And if someone is silent about something, then even from this alone it is clear that this is done out of fear of condemnation both by law and by society.

              Do you already tell your children that they can choose their gender? If not, then it's time, otherwise in the west it's full-length. Lagging behind. Will not be admitted to NATO-EU.
              1. Arnaut
                Arnaut 3 January 2021 23: 38
                0
                Let's take the "blue lobby" in the Russian Orthodox Church.
                Kirill (Gundyaev) made a rapid career thanks to Metropolitan Nikodim Rotov. He has a gay train around him all his life. Young boys from his cell went to the promotion. They became rectors of seminaries and academies.
                And did Cyril punish the bishops, metropolitans and abbots of monasteries for the sin of Sodom? Or maybe there are no "cabbage rolls" among them? Do you believe this? And if there is, do you think Cyril does not know this? And if he does, then why does he cover it? Indeed, behind each "goal ... th" dozens of distorted lives of people.
                Telling the truth to a child will not affect his genetic makeup. No propaganda, no films for adults will make an LGBT heterosexual. Here in the barracks, in the cell, in the orphanage, violence from a normal person can be made "p ... race", "oh ... nnogo", "p ... ha", etc.
                1. don carleone
                  don carleone 4 January 2021 12: 38
                  +1
                  Let's take the "blue lobby" in the Russian Orthodox Church.


                  Where does this awareness come from? Could they be holding a candle? Or are you indulging yourself?
                  For example, I do not know anything like that.

                  Telling the truth to a child will not affect his genetic makeup. No propaganda, no adult films will make an LGBT heterosexual



                  This is where you are wrong. It's a disease. It spreads like a virus. It is especially easily transmitted to children who have neither life experience nor a moral core.
                  1. Arnaut
                    Arnaut 4 January 2021 21: 16
                    0
                    Quote: don carleone
                    This is where you are wrong. It's a disease. It spreads like a virus. It is especially easily transmitted to children who have neither life experience nor a moral core.

                    Hitler and Himmler would be proud of a follower like you.
                    1. don carleone
                      don carleone 4 January 2021 21: 33
                      0
                      The devil always mixes lies with the truth, otherwise no one will believe. Therefore, it is not surprising to find the right thoughts among such explicit Satanists as Hitler.
  • Gregory Charnota
    Gregory Charnota 3 January 2021 20: 07
    +1
    mortar they have already taken which undermine their own shooters
    1. Arnaut
      Arnaut 3 January 2021 20: 26
      0
      Not ... In Russia, nothing ever explodes ... And all the videos about explosions are Obamka.
  • uncle Vlad
    uncle Vlad 5 January 2021 19: 07
    0
    AGS can be used with the same success. The covering area is larger, you can peel the entire tape with cumulative ones.