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In Greece: The Era of the Turkish Bayraktar UAVs Will End with the Development of New Laser Weapons by Russia

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In Greece: The Era of the Turkish Bayraktar UAVs Will End with the Development of New Laser Weapons by Russia

Greek military experts comment on the statement that a new laser combat complex is being developed in Russia. A statement about this kind of development was made by Deputy Defense Minister Alexei Krivoruchko. And we are talking about a complex that will enter the troops in addition to the "Peresvet", which is already in service with the Russian army. After this information, the experts started talking about the fact that the new complex will be used primarily for the destruction of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).


In the Greek edition of Pentapostagma, the author writes that to date, only one country in the world has combat lasers in service - the Russian Federation.

From the material:

Drones are one of the most common weapons today for warfare. And Russia decided to find an effective way to deal with them. She is developing a new combat laser system.

Experts in Greece decided to link information about the new development of the laser weapons in the Russian Federation with the way the Azerbaijani army fought in Karabakh. There is also a reference to the use by Turkey of its drones during the Libyan confrontation with the army of Khalifa Haftar. In both of these cases, Bayraktar strike drones were used.



"When Russia creates a new laser weapon, the effectiveness, as well as the popularity, of the Turkish Bayraktar UAVs will be minimized," the Greek press states. Added:

The short era of Bayraktars will come to an end.

It should be recalled that earlier Turkish "Bayraktars" began to arrive in Ukraine, where they have already received several such shock drones.
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  1. Spike Javelin Touvich
    Spike Javelin Touvich 31 December 2020 13: 03
    -7
    Wow !!!!!!!!!! take pride in siesta
    Typical Greeks
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 13: 42
      +15
      Quote: Spike Javelin Touvich
      take pride in siesta because of what other people's hands create

      When even coffee during their eternal siesta is drunk with credit money. Maybe I looked in the wrong place, but in the vineyards in Greece I saw only horses and Moldovans. The entire indigenous male population around the clock, in my opinion, sits near cafes with a bottomless cup of coffee. At the same time, Greece owes so much that it has no hope of paying off its debts.
      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
        Andrei Nikolaevich 31 December 2020 14: 30
        +9
        You know, I was also in Greece and I have a similar opinion. Velikoukry and Moldovans do all the dirty work. I came to clean the room - a great Ukrainian. He lowers his eyes and keeps quiet. I asked how there, the square, and the lady, suffered ...)) Complaining eyes, moans, etc. ... In general, he interrupted her and said that he was tired and wanted to sleep ..)
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 15: 03
          +8
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          You know, I've been to Greece too

          I got the impression that the pinnacle of a career as a ukrorabotnik in Greece is to become a taxi driver.
          I don't like going on tours from travel agencies. If I travel, then only "savage". So more you see and see not a lacquered country for tourists, but what it really is. I saw ukrov-janitors in Athens, carefully sweeping the sidewalks on which the locals sit with coffee and do not even deign to raise their legs. Saw maids who openly offer themselves for € 100. I saw loaders in fish markets - 15 hours of work for 50-60 euros. For Ukraine, a lot, for me it would be humiliating - in mud and stench all day for 50 euros. Although, although he was the general director, and in the summer, when the loader broke down, and it was urgently necessary, he unloaded the cement truck with a hump together with the workers - not dumb. In short, Greece shocked me with its jumps - I didn't think there were so many of them.
          1. Andrei Nikolaevich
            Andrei Nikolaevich 31 December 2020 16: 38
            +7
            I also did not expect to see them there, and even in such quantities!) I was on a business trip. We work with the Greeks. The Greeks and my colleague rented this hotel. Good service. Often. Carefully. The administrator is a Greek woman, a very nice lady, 55_60 years old. Scratches in Russian, excellent. But "pro-Putin" - to horror.) We expected it ourselves. But we collapsed with laughter when she said that Gaster from Ukraine and Moldova is called "devils" I ask why exactly "devils"? It turns out, because they do all dirty work. ”Well, a funny woman.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 16: 55
              +9
              Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
              we collapsed with laughter when she said that Gaster from Ukraine and Moldova is called "devils" I ask why exactly "devils"? It turns out because they do all the dirty work.

              I was also surprised when I heard "diabolo" in relation to the horses in Greece, and even worse - something like "scootball" ... "Dregs" in Russian.

              Interesting - they are not ashamed of themselves and the country? Maybe I was not in such a situation, but I was always proud that I was Russian - both when I fought outside the southern borders of my Motherland, and when I traveled later. Throughout Europe, around the world. The salary allows - in many places. And nowhere was I ashamed that I was Russian. Whoever likes - let them be friends. whoever doesn't like it, let them be afraid ... And the skippers should be ashamed of that.
              1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                Andrei Nikolaevich 31 December 2020 17: 13
                +7
                And you know (this is my personal observation) - they are just used to it. To live somehow it is necessary .. to feed the family .. Just humanly, I feel sorry for them. But there is no desire to help with something. This is not the first year they have continued. It's nothing you can do. Every nation deserves its own power ...
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 17: 49
                  +5
                  Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                  And you know (this is my personal observation) - they are just used to it.

                  My cousin, with whom I grew up like family (see yesterday's post), communicates with me as an inveterate occupier. Zomboyaschik finally taught them to do this - I watched them on satellite TV, set back in the 90s, KhokhloTV - to be stunned, what kind of aggressors we are. Grandpa Goebbels is resting ... I wonder if they will ever get bored or will they drown until the dollars run out? And then? Who will pay, will they press there? And if Russia pays, will America be bad? It's funny, in fact, from such "shape-shifters" ....
                  1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                    Andrei Nikolaevich 31 December 2020 22: 03
                    +4
                    I understand you ... I have the same, relatives on the mother's side, in the Nikolaev region ... I listened to them like that ... back in 2012 and was stunned. And so with a little mind, they don't shine, and even this zombie box .. But there must be brains, well, at least some! (Well, there is a line that cannot be crossed. For me this is Bandera and that's it what is connected with this kov. For them (for half) he is a "hero." Well, how should I treat these people? .. And my grandfather fought ... I can't betray my grandfather's memory. very much respected.
                    1. Zoldat_A
                      Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 22: 21
                      +7
                      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                      For me this is Bandera and everything connected with it. For them (for half) he is a "hero". Well, how should I treat these people? .. And my grandfather fought ... I can't betray my grandfather's memory.

                      My grandfather in Leningrad ate snow with carpentry glue, then fought in a tank on the Kursk Bulge. He defended his homeland in Kandahar and Herat himself, the father of 25 calendars around the world as an "instructor", his son in Ryazan, a cadet, would be a personnel landing force ... And so that after that I would forgive Ukraine Bandera ???? In 2014, on the Maidan on TV, I saw a girl carrying a portrait of Bandera and was horrified. I thought that she would now be torn - who knew that in this unfinished state, a traitor to the Motherland and an accomplice of the Nazis in SS uniform would become a hero? Memory, as you rightly pointed out, can be traded, which has been done successfully in Ukraine. And then not everyone knows how, but only sakuas. You can't sell, which you and I can't ...
                      1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                        Andrei Nikolaevich 31 December 2020 23: 05
                        +6
                        Sometimes, on the site, I am, angry, branded as, incitement to hatred, but I am telling the truth. I understand that there is some part of sane people in Ukraine. But he himself saw that they were a minority. And everyone will be responsible and feel ashamed for everything they have done.
                      2. Zoldat_A
                        Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 23: 09
                        +1
                        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                        Sometimes, on the site, I am, angry, branded as, incitement to hatred

                        Come on - I'm used to it. And it was banen more than once. Drooling ...
                      3. siemens7774
                        siemens7774 3 January 2021 16: 00
                        0
                        Zoldat-A, do you know that the admins on VO are all pan-headed from central and western? I also have 4 bans. I'm trying to find out everything. And the administration is also one of these?
                      4. Zoldat_A
                        Zoldat_A 5 January 2021 19: 36
                        0
                        Quote: siemens7774
                        I also have 4 bans.

                        I officially have 5. In fact, according to my late father, whose nickname I continue here, about 12.
                        admins on VO polls pan-headed from central and western?
                        Schaz you will be banned for two weeks ... Firstly, everything is not quite so, and secondly - read the Site Rules.
          2. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 18: 23
            0
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            This is not the first year they have continued. It's nothing you can do. Every nation deserves its own power ...

            Absolutely ... Unfortunately ...
  2. Anar
    Anar 31 December 2020 15: 04
    +2
    Let me emphasize that Moldovans are very hardworking people, but why do they live very poorly ((((
  3. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 December 2020 17: 12
    +9
    If you want to know what the country is breathing, it is better to be a savage, there was a double impression from the Greeks in 2014, a pebble in a sandal was walking from the beach, bent over, a cross fell out, and an elderly Greek saw approached cheto, grumbled in his own way, I really did not understand, I made out only - Orthodoxy - I nodded in approval, to which he grinned over the top of his mouth in approval. And in general, the attitude towards Russians as a nation is benevolent - after all, there is only one religion that is for some reason important for the Greeks. Many more, in a place and out of place, mention the Mediterranean siesta. (Here, even the verse came out!))) Like, these Greeks are quitters, they only want to sleep, they don't want to work. But siesta, traditional in hot countries, is a cruel necessity. Therefore, people get up no later than 5 in the morning, and often even earlier. Try to work in the field at 35-40 degrees of heat! I am sure it will not seem a little. The locals in Greece turned out to be friendly and hospitable. They told where the best shops, bars and clubs on the islands are. They gave a lot of advice on how to get to different locations or where to buy inexpensive trinkets and souvenirs. Therefore, it is a pleasure to be friends with them.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 17: 53
      +7
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      If you want to know what the country breathes, you'd better be a savage

      Same, verbatim, wrote in his comment. Therefore, I do not go to travel agencies, only myself - I buy a ticket, my family under my arm and went. By the way, the Greeks have not worked for a long time and do not want to work. Eating up a 100 billion euro loan. Jumpers are working, Moldovans - at least I've only seen them in the vineyards. I went specially. And the Greeks - only toes and legs around the clock eat coffee near cafes. And what else to do before the German 100 credit lard runs out? Giving - all the Parthenons won't be enough. Hope to be forgiven for Ancient Athens?
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 1 January 2021 12: 54
        +2
        By the way, the Greeks have not worked for a long time and do not want to work.


        Interesting ... I'm 200 km away. to the Greek beach and I wander there 2-3 times a summer. I know many Greeks and everyone works like hell. I travel to small villages and towns, I do not like large resorts and everywhere I saw very hardworking people.

        Eating up a 100 billion euro loan.


        Here's another myth. Last week Greece repaid ahead of schedule 8 billion to the IMF. Actually, their economy is doing well, plus they found money for the army. Yes, there are still many debts, but they will be returned without problems.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 1 January 2021 15: 46
          +2
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          I know many Greeks and everyone works like hell.

          Apparently, Eugene, you and I have been to different Greece ...
        2. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 1 January 2021 22: 48
          +2
          ... I know many Greeks and everyone works like hell.

          Here, many do not quite understand what it means to work - to own and work in a restaurant or cafe, they do not count as work, and work in a state corporation is considered work. request
  • pytar
    pytar 31 December 2020 14: 23
    +6
    Wow !!!!!!!!!! proud of during siesta. what other people's hands create.Typical Greeks

    Why did you decide that the publication of a article about military developments means exactly "... are proud ... of what other people's hands create ..."?!?! request Greek newspaper writes on all sorts of topics.

    Many people inform about Russian / and any / developments! This does not mean at all that everyone who wrote "proud" with the weapon he writes about!
    Typical Greeks ...

    One journalist, somewhere wrote something in a gazette ... And here all the Greeks, and what is their typicality in this case ?! request Probably only the Turkish forum lobby knows! bully
    1. XXXIII
      XXXIII 31 December 2020 16: 08
      0
      Quote: pytar
      Wow !!!!!!!!!! proud of during siesta. what other people's hands create.Typical Greeks

      Why did you decide that the publication of a article about military developments means exactly "... are proud ... of what other people's hands create ..."?!?! request Greek newspaper writes on all sorts of topics.

      Many people inform about Russian / and any / developments! This does not mean at all that everyone who wrote "proud" with the weapon he writes about!
      Typical Greeks ...

      One journalist, somewhere wrote something in a gazette ... And here all the Greeks, and what is their typicality in this case ?! request Probably only the Turkish forum lobby knows! bully

      They are not discussing that.)) I have a question where did the Greeks get the information that laser weapons are for UAVs or is this a tactical assumption. On the one hand, it was also not clear what kind of complex would be, that is, for what purposes. And if you think like the Greeks, then the appearance of such a laser is quite logical.
      1. pytar
        pytar 31 December 2020 16: 30
        +4
        But you never know what they write and suggest in the media! Look here at VO ... Complete - full of similar materials!
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 31 December 2020 16: 32
          -1
          Quote: pytar
          But you never know what they write and suggest in the media! Look here at VO ... Complete - full of similar materials!

          So yes, the question is more about how it should look.))
          1. pytar
            pytar 31 December 2020 19: 26
            +4
            We can only guess! The Greek author probably did so.
      2. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice 1 January 2021 09: 25
        0
        On the one hand, it was also not clear what kind of complex would be, that is, for what purposes. And if you think like the Greeks, then the appearance of such a laser is quite logical.

        It will probably be like a flashlight. I saw the UAV shone on him and a skiff to him.
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 31 December 2020 13: 04
    +6
    Greek military experts comment ...

    ... the efficiency, as well as the popularity, of the Turkish Bayraktar UAVs will be minimized ..

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend ...
    1. frruc
      frruc 31 December 2020 13: 12
      +2
      In Greece: With the development of a new laser weapon by Russia, the era of the Turkish UAV "Bayraktar" will come to an end.

      New positive expectations are expected in every single country. And Greece is no exception.
    2. Blackgrifon
      Blackgrifon 31 December 2020 13: 57
      +1
      But the Greeks have never been friends to us ...
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 31 December 2020 14: 06
        0
        Quote: Blackgrifon
        But the Greeks have never been friends to us ...

        Yes, if not strange. Could ...
      2. pytar
        pytar 31 December 2020 14: 29
        0
        But the Greeks have never been friends to us ...

        What does politics have to do with "friends"?? request Politics is always around, everyone is guided interests!
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 31 December 2020 16: 13
          0
          Quote: pytar
          But the Greeks have never been friends to us ...

          What does politics have to do with "friends"?? request Politics is always around, everyone is guided interests!

          It depends on how you look, before they were called allies or neutral countries, but just to be friends. This is what politicians call when they do some mutually beneficial business and no more.
          1. pytar
            pytar 31 December 2020 16: 32
            +2
            It depends on how you look, before they were called allies or neutral countries, but just to be friends. This is what politicians call when they do some mutually beneficial business and no more.

            You can name anything. Diplomacy is so big ... laughing And enemies, allies, neutrals, often change their places. So it was, so it is and so it will be.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 31 December 2020 13: 04
    +2
    And besides the laser, we have not shot down these beytractors with anything, in the same Libya, for example? ??
    1. yehat2
      yehat2 31 December 2020 13: 36
      +5
      the question is not whether it is possible to shoot down this UAV or not - an 80-year-old I-15 fighter could easily do it. The question is how quickly and efficiently it will turn out.
      If it's too late or too expensive to shoot this thing down, it's not an option.
      And by questioning too expensive, I mean not a specific installation, but the costs of maintaining a system of such devices. Those. the installation should be like a faustpatron. It is ten times or at least ten times cheaper and at the same time quite effective. Not a single air defense system can now boast of this.
      Therefore, the development of anti-drone weapons is just beginning, especially in light of the Chinese and American experiments with a swarm of drones.
      1. KCA
        KCA 31 December 2020 13: 49
        0
        Against a swarm of drones, the laser is not very effective if the pulsed one, although it is not known about Peresvet whether it is pulsed or continuous, but the deputy minister somehow casually "He also said that a radio-frequency complex is being developed to disable the electronic equipment of drones," this is already interesting. American pictures and cartoons amuse, with their superlasers shooting down ballistic missile warheads mounted on jeeps and trailers, "Peresvet" is a hefty van designed to disable optical devices, and they have pocket lasers, even missiles, even burning tanks
        1. XXXIII
          XXXIII 31 December 2020 16: 28
          +2
          Quote: KCA
          Against a swarm of drones, the laser is not very effective if the pulsed one, although it is not known about Peresvet whether it is pulsed or continuous, but the deputy minister somehow casually "He also said that a radio-frequency complex is being developed to disable the electronic equipment of drones," this is already interesting. American pictures and cartoons amuse, with their superlasers shooting down ballistic missile warheads mounted on jeeps and trailers, "Peresvet" is a hefty van designed to disable optical devices, and they have pocket lasers, even missiles, even burning tanks

          And the electronic warfare systems cannot work for such purposes ?! Or air defense, for example Tor m2 ?!
          Minimum target EPR: 0,05 m²
          Damage zone: in range: from 1 to 16 km


          Thanks to a high-quality optoelectronic system, Bayraktar drones can hit targets from a height of 7 km, being beyond the reach of many outdated or low-altitude air defense systems. It can carry 4 laser-guided UMTAS anti-tank missiles, or Roketsan MAM-C, MAM- guided high-precision air bombs. L, capable of striking stationary and moving objects at a distance of up to 8 km.
          1. KCA
            KCA 31 December 2020 16: 43
            +4
            By "swarm" we mean hundreds of miniature UAVs, from Thor to a sense of 0, on one installation 16 missiles against hundreds of small targets, weighing a couple of kilograms, corresponding dimensions, only electronic warfare and powerful electromagnetic radiation, well, or a continuous laser, or rather not continuous, but without the need to charge the supercapacitors before each shot
            1. XXXIII
              XXXIII 31 December 2020 17: 17
              0
              Quote: KCA
              By "swarm" they mean hundreds of miniature UAVs, from Thor to 0 sense, on one installation 16 missiles against hundreds of small targets, weighing a couple of kilograms

              There are such systems and how many such UAVs will fly up to 2kg? I doubt it's far away, unless they are thrown off a bomber of some sort, like guided projectiles.))
              1. KCA
                KCA 31 December 2020 17: 48
                0
                It is precisely this application that is planned - the B-52 or another carrier delivers the swarm at a safe distance to the target and launches
                1. XXXIII
                  XXXIII 31 December 2020 20: 21
                  0
                  Quote: KCA
                  It is precisely this application that is planned - the B-52 or another carrier delivers the swarm at a safe distance to the target and launches

                  Well, with electronic warfare systems, the Russian Federation is not late, it even looks a step ahead. Yes, it will be difficult with missile weapons, but everything in the complex should work. Alone, no system can cope, but the additional option is probably taken into development. The topic is not new with the UAV swarm, but so far there are also problems.
          2. onstar9
            onstar9 1 January 2021 02: 12
            0
            Quote: XXXIII
            And the electronic warfare systems cannot work for such purposes ?!

            Well, defenses are constantly being created against electronic warfare. So there is a constant race ... Nothing radical can be done ...
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 13: 50
        0
        Quote: yehat2
        the development of anti-drone weapons is just beginning, especially in the light of the Chinese and American experiments with a swarm of drones.

        Not really an expert in air defense from the word "absolutely", but knowing our defense design bureaus firsthand, I can hope that for every cunning ... with a thread, our smart scientists from the defense industry will find a bolt with a screw. A matter of time and, as VVP once aptly put it
        There will be an adequate response to inappropriate actions.
        Such, from which the owners of the "swarm of drones" will be stunned ...
  • Klingon
    Klingon 31 December 2020 13: 13
    -1
    Quote: Thrifty
    And besides the laser, we have not shot down these beytractors with anything, in the same Libya, for example? ??

    "Laser" is a kawaii word, just like an iPhone. just because it's COOL (gyy, dude, check it out: I have a real combat LASER, you know?) so everything else does not count. just Greeks in this sense are typical majors ... only without dough wassat
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 31 December 2020 13: 32
      -4
      Quote: Klingon
      just Greeks in this sense are typical majors ... only without dough

      here, there is nothing to argue.
  • Russia
    Russia 31 December 2020 13: 13
    +14
    In Greece everything is there, even healthy thoughts are present to this day. yes
    Allow me to congratulate the Administration of the site, All of us participants, on the past, difficult year. Health to all of us, success in all your endeavors. soldier hi drinks
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 31 December 2020 13: 32
      -1
      Quote: Rusland
      Allow

      early ... not?
      1. Russia
        Russia 31 December 2020 13: 55
        +4
        Quote: Aerodrome
        Quote: Rusland
        Allow

        early ... not?

        I don't drink, but I decided to congratulate. All the best to you. yes
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 31 December 2020 13: 22
    -4
    What does the "Era of Bayrakiarov" have to do with it? It started .... and sales will only grow.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 31 December 2020 13: 33
      -3
      Quote: Zaurbek
      What does the "Era of Bayrakiarov" have to do with it? It started .... and sales will only grow.

      already flooded ...
    2. A good one
      A good one 31 December 2020 13: 40
      +2
      Yes, everything will grow, in terms of this direction. This weapon is against the defenseless now in the air defense unit, etc., and so the answer to the coordinates of the places of "decision-making" will still be on their way. yes Happy New Year buddy drinks , do not fall under the American heel in the future, everything will go up and down.
      1. onstar9
        onstar9 1 January 2021 02: 21
        0
        Quote: Not bad
        do not fall under the American heel in the future, everything will go up and down.

        Yes, we live well under the thumb of the Russian thieving authorities ... The whole of Russia has been robbed for their villas, palaces and yachts ... America is worse?
  • Shopping Mall
    Shopping Mall 31 December 2020 13: 27
    0
    Apparently, a chemical laser will be used in the Russian complex, and this is extremely sad, since this is a technology of the last century - limited and expensive ammunition (chemical reagents), inconvenience of use.

    https://topcor.ru/17784-v-rossii-zasvetilsja-novyj-boevoj-lazer-na-platforme-baz.html

    So the miracle did not happen, and in Peresvet the same principle is used, discussed in the article Secrets of the Peresvet complex: how does the Russian laser sword work?
    https://topwar.ru/167342-sekrety-kompleksa-peresvet-kak-ustroen-rossijskij-lazernyj-mech.html

    version of BLK "Peresvet". Execution number 2. Gas-dynamic and chemical lasers

    This means no nuclear-pumped lasers, and even worse, no compact lasers powered by electricity - solid-state, liquid, etc.

    The worst thing is that we cannot refuse from these developments, otherwise we will generally lose our competence in laser weapons. As a result, there is a risk of getting stuck on chemical lasers, but there is also hope that the developments in aiming, focusing and other aspects of the development of combat lasers may be in demand when creating modern solid-state disk / liquid / fiber lasers.
    1. gss
      gss 31 December 2020 13: 31
      +3
      Hmm. You give nuclear-pumped lasers on your territory)
    2. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 31 December 2020 13: 34
      0
      Quote: AVM
      and this is extremely sad

      Quote: AVM
      This means no lasers

      Quote: AVM
      The worst,

      Quote: AVM
      in general we will lose competence

      Quote: AVM
      but there is also hope

      well ... not all is lost ... wait ... in an hour ... seven or eight ... the nuclear will ripen ... yes
    3. Sergey39
      Sergey39 31 December 2020 13: 37
      +2
      What's wrong with that? There are no others yet. Nobody.
  • Nychego
    Nychego 31 December 2020 13: 40
    -2
    "Greek military experts" from the National Intrest there or from forums like ... let's not talk about the patient in his house?

    The problem with the Bayraktar is already in finding them. How many image intensifier tubes are there (about which they are so actively silent when they disperse about Orions and so on)? 0,1 sq.m.
    LO, too, is never a panacea, because initially it is not all-weather, in order to "shoot down Bayraktai in batches", you will have to drive this fool not very far from the enemy's line of contact, and there artillery, directed and corrected by the same Bayraktars, can be unclear.

    Of course, the era of the Bayraktar will go away, for the era of any "wunderwafli" is finite, but it is unlikely that these early installations of the LR will become the gravediggers at the funeral of the Bayraktar.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 31 December 2020 14: 36
      0
      "Of course, the era of the Bayraktars will go away, for the era of any" wunderwafele "is finite ///
      ----
      The era of drones is just beginning. Bayraktars will leave, because their
      will replace the next generation of drones. Then the next one.
      Drones - forever.
      No future air defense can stop
      their existence.
      But it is still necessary to develop anti-unmanned air defense.
      Otherwise, they will be run over immediately.
      1. Nychego
        Nychego 31 December 2020 14: 39
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Drones - forever.

        Two words in the real world are a figurative expression of abstraction and no more: "forever" and "never".
        hi
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 31 December 2020 13: 50
    +2
    Greeks hate Turks, even in the media they are poured with a well-known substance))
    1. Anar
      Anar 31 December 2020 15: 10
      -2
      Moreover, in this position, Turkey does not go over to insults. They just say - you will answer for your words. Maybe once Greece was the center of culture, but now their culture has slipped below the baseboard.
      1. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 31 December 2020 15: 45
        0
        Turkey is no better. What the hell is their culture? And the Greeks have something to dislike Turkey, especially for the Turkish invasion of Cyprus and the occupation.
        However, let them quarrel. What is to us.
      2. dinos
        dinos 1 January 2021 14: 01
        +2
        The threat of war (casus belli) from Turkey, in the event of the expansion of the Greek coastal zone to 12 nautical miles, as provided for by the 1982 Maritime Convention, as has been done by almost all coastal states of the international community, including Turkey (in the Black Sea and the Eastern Mediterranean ),
        • to question the Greek airspace and constantly (dozens of times every day) violating it by Turkish fighters (in 2020, more than 5000 times the ICAO civil aviation standards and more than 200 overflights over the Greek islands)
        • challenging the sovereignty of Greece over the islands of the Aegean Sea (from 18 to 157 islands, depending on which leg Turkish officials wake up from, including the ministers of foreign affairs and defense), prescribed in the international treaties of 1923 (Lausanne) and 1947 (Paris ). This is a trifle in Turkish terms and does not constitute any insult.
        With regard to culture - as many foreign scientists and philosophers believe, from the Middle Ages to the present day, the Greeks were the most prominent people in the progress of mankind (culture and science).
        Comparing Greeks with Turks (Ottomans) and their contribution to world civilization is far, far from in favor of the latter.
  • rica1952
    rica1952 31 December 2020 14: 29
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    To hit a carbon-fiber case with a laser, you need to invest about 3 J. The aperture of a solid-state laser will not allow this to be done, a chemical laser such as hydrogen-fluorine or hydrogen is needed, but it's not really this whole story took place in the struggle of SDI. Kryvoruchko apparently does not want to learn history.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 31 December 2020 14: 34
    +1
    And what does Greece have to do with it? In any case, the Greeks will not be allowed to buy something like that from the Russians
  • A_Lex
    A_Lex 31 December 2020 14: 42
    -2
    Something in recent years has sharply intensified Greek experts with their forecasts regarding the grandiose success of the Russian defense industry in the future, which can already be proud of. The impression is that an order paid for by internal propaganda is being fulfilled, for serial admiring future successes, which you can believe in, because it is packed in an allegedly independent opinion from beyond the hill. Like, don't believe us, that's what colleagues from there say, to whom there is no point in lying, except perhaps for a hard currency, but of course no one will ever suspect them of such indecency, because in our best world, journalists and even more experts are always tell the truth, only the truth and nothing but the truth. And this is obvious to everyone, but to whom it is still not obvious, that bad, unpatriotic person.
  • Anar
    Anar 31 December 2020 15: 08
    -2
    And what do the Greeks think that Russia will give them this weapon? It is necessary to tell the corrupt Greeks figs ... America will not allow you to buy it ... and the sanctions ...
    Most likely they just want to push Russia and Turkey against each other. Greece and France of the slippery peoples of Europe.
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  • yfast
    yfast 31 December 2020 15: 25
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    Quote: gss
    Hmm. You give nuclear-pumped lasers on your territory)

    Well, nuclear power plants may well maintain their defense. It is unlikely that by nuclear pumping they mean pumping by a nuclear explosion.
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 31 December 2020 15: 41
    -1
    Why do the Greeks decide such questions? :)

    Turkey is currently an annoying neighbor and a promising partner; Erdogan, as it were, is not a bad guy, only pissing and deaf. But the Greeks are not talking about anything at all. And, as if without their snot, they will figure out who to sell what to develop in spite of Turkey
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  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 31 December 2020 16: 56
    +1
    When Russia creates a new laser weapon, the era of Turkish UAVs "Bayraktar" will end
    Women shouted cheers and threw caps into the air. repeat
    The laser is effective against UAVs, but the range of combat use? For the horizon, "will not take", and the "response" missile from the UAV - may well arrive. The UAV also works in conjunction with satellites, radars ... request
  • bars1
    bars1 31 December 2020 17: 07
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    Quote: APASUS
    And what does Greece have to do with it?

    It's just that the Greeks hate the Turks so much that if, for example, Satan himself would personally undertake to develop a weapon capable of destroying the Bayraktars and other Turkish weapons, they would applaud him. No politics and cunning plans to challenge us with Turkey. Only hate. History gives the Greeks every reason to treat the Turks this way, I understand them.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 December 2020 17: 42
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    Quote: pytar
    But the Greeks have never been friends to us ...

    What does politics have to do with "friends"?? request Politics is always around, everyone is guided interests!

    Quote: pytar
    But the Greeks have never been friends to us ...

    What does politics have to do with "friends"?? request Politics is always around, everyone is guided interests!

    Russian President Vladimir Putin was invited to Athens in March next year to celebrate the 200th anniversary of the start of the Greek national liberation struggle. This was announced on Monday, October 26, by Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis during a meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. laughing : He did not specify whether an answer was received from the Russian leader. And so he jokes laughing
  • eklmn
    eklmn 31 December 2020 19: 08
    -4
    The Greeks were too lazy to look at the appearance of Peresvet, otherwise they would not have written such garbage (most likely "patriots_from_editorial").
    But it is surprising that Russian readers are led to "the end of Turkish UAVs"!
    Peresvet has 5 (!) Axles and a huge extension (on supports) and is transported by 3x (!) Axle tractor. Turkish UAVs beat tanks on a campaign, on rough terrain, where Peresvet would not come close! Peresvet, due to its size and clumsiness, can defend bases, and nothing more!
    I understand that the article is for raising the mood, which is logical if you remember what happened (last year) and imagine what else will happen ...
  • Alex russia
    Alex russia 31 December 2020 20: 02
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    I attach a photo of a hawked Turkish drone that bombed Karabakh, note that there is practically nothing Turkish there. So draw conclusions about what awaits the Turks in the event of a sanction, and just don't tell tales about some kind of import substitution, we are serious people
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 December 2020 21: 33
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    Quote: Zoldat_A
    Quote: Gennady Fomkin
    If you want to know what the country breathes, you'd better be a savage

    Same, verbatim, wrote in his comment. Therefore, I do not go to travel agencies, only myself - I buy a ticket, my family under my arm and went. By the way, the Greeks have not worked for a long time and do not want to work. Eating up a 100 billion euro loan. Jumpers are working, Moldovans - at least I've only seen them in the vineyards. I went specially. And the Greeks - only toes and legs around the clock eat coffee near cafes. And what else to do before the German 100 credit lard runs out? Giving - all the Parthenons won't be enough. Hope to be forgiven for Ancient Athens?

    We had a Russian-speaking Greek, so before he got a job he withstood a competition of 10 people for one place belay
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 31 December 2020 21: 52
    +1
    Quote: Blackgrifon
    But the Greeks have never been friends to us ...

    Politicians are possible, but the Greeks themselves treat Russians well, but they trade for theft to improve their qualifications and send them from Bulgaria and Romania ... laughing Therefore, stay away from these "brothers" since the 90s, the "bijo" purses were pulled laughing
  • Oleg Olkha
    Oleg Olkha 31 December 2020 22: 39
    -2
    "... a Greek, across the river" ... What should they expect when an agreement was recently signed between the Israeli Defense Ministry and Greece on strategic cooperation, and Israel has had combat lasers for several years already on ships, this is for the "Greeks"? And the sign of laser danger, on the battlefield at the ceremony.
    http://otvaga2004.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=274&p=27 https://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2020/12/02/Israel-receives-its-most-advanced-warship-as-tensions-with-Iran-rise
  • onstar9
    onstar9 1 January 2021 02: 14
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    Well, with the development of lasers, not only drones will disappear, but the S-400, S-500 will not be needed either. And also ICBM. And aviation will "order a long life" ...
  • Borodach
    Borodach 1 January 2021 17: 10
    -1
    Well damn, are you serious? Does Greece itself exist as a state? laughing
  • Konnick
    Konnick 2 January 2021 05: 49
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    The problem is not how to bring down, but how to discover. And you can do without a laser, combat lasers are not created for these purposes, although in my opinion this is a dead-end path for the development of weapons - the transmission of a damaging pulse by quantum energy over a long distance, huge losses are guaranteed. And the Greeks are the same Armenians when describing the achievements of Turkey in the new tactics of military operations. And about the laziness of the Greeks, I will just mention their expression "Whitefish, whitefish", like ours - work is not a wolf, it will not run away into the forest.
  • Konnick
    Konnick 2 January 2021 05: 52
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    Quote: onstar9
    Well, with the development of lasers, not only drones will disappear, but the S-400, S-500 will not be needed either. And also ICBM. And aviation will "order a long life" ...

    A primitive opinion, all of the above-mentioned weapons of over-the-horizon action and the laser are not radio waves to bend around the Earth or be reflected from the atmosphere.