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Anti-record of the space industry: In terms of the number of space launches in 2020, the Russian Federation yielded to both the United States and China

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Anti-record of the space industry: In terms of the number of space launches in 2020, the Russian Federation yielded to both the United States and China

Russia has set a new anti-record: for the first time in the entire history In the Soviet and Russian cosmonautics, the number of space launches carried out by Roscosmos in a year did not reach 20.


In terms of the number of space launches, Russia yielded to both the United States and China. In total, in 2020, 114 space launches were made in the world, of which Russia carried out only 17. At the same time, the United States sent ships into space 44 times, and China - 39.

According to calculations, Russian boosters were launched 7 times from Baikonur, 7 times from Plesetsk, once from Vostochny and twice from the Kourou cosmodrome in French Guiana.

Thus, for the first time in history, an anti-record was set for the number of space launches. Less was only at the dawn of cosmonautics - in 1959-1961, from 2 to 9 launches were carried out annually.

The reason for this fall is not only the coronavirus pandemic, which of course played a role, but also the general decline in the number of commercial launches of Russian missiles. Russia, since 2014, has been gradually losing the market for international commercial space launches.

The head of Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, also spoke on this topic, explaining that the reason for the two times smaller space launches than planned was "known difficult circumstances."

Last year we carried out less than planned launches of space rockets in the interests of the state and our commercial partners. But in certain difficult circumstances, all the economies of the world were forced to adjust their plans.

- Rogozin said.

A total of 33 space launches were planned for the outgoing year, of which slightly more than half were carried out.
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  1. apro
    apro 30 December 2020 08: 43
    +16
    Why an anti-record ???? can there be optimization !!! and how much money they saved ... and nerves ... or maybe this was the idea ... to get up from his knees ... and for that for the next year ..
    1. Login_Off
      Login_Off 30 December 2020 08: 53
      +1
      I agree.
      There is no money, we leave the latter for the most necessary: ​​we make plans for the future, dream about the distant, use for the time being what is left in warehouses from previous times.
      Everything is exaggerated, but in essence.
      1. XXXIII
        XXXIII 30 December 2020 09: 34
        -19%
        Quote: Login_Off
        I agree.
        There is no money, we leave the latter for the most necessary: ​​we make plans for the future, dream about the distant, use for the time being what is left in warehouses from previous times.
        Everything is exaggerated, but in essence.

        This is 17 over and above useful, chasing the amount is stupid.
        1. Kent0001
          Kent0001 30 December 2020 10: 11
          +5
          quantity is money. launches for earnings - in the interests of third parties.
          1. military_cat
            military_cat 30 December 2020 11: 31
            +7
            But in certain difficult circumstances, all the economies of the world were forced to adjust their plans.

            Rogozin chose not to notice that in 2020, China and the United States increased the number of launches (from 34/27 to 39/44, respectively) compared to 2019.
          2. XXXIII
            XXXIII 30 December 2020 15: 15
            -6
            Quote: Kent0001
            quantity is money. launches for earnings - in the interests of third parties.

            There are orders, they are launching, there are no orders and there are no launches. What money do you count?))
        2. military_cat
          military_cat 30 December 2020 10: 26
          +4
          But it was promised at the same time as much as 50.

          https://iz.ru/959606/2019-12-28/roskosmos-poobeshchal-50-kosmicheskikh-puskov-v-2020-godu
      2. figwam
        figwam 30 December 2020 09: 59
        +13
        A total of 33 space launches were planned for the outgoing year, of which slightly more than half were carried out.

        In recent years, the statistics are approximately the same, each year is about the same number of starts.
        Successful launches:
        2016 year - 16
        2017 year - 18
        2018 year - 15
        2019 year - 21
        2020 year - 18
        1. YOUR
          YOUR 30 December 2020 10: 22
          +4
          Conclusion, we only have one
          "known difficult circumstances"
          - Rogozin.
          1. slipped
            slipped 30 December 2020 10: 50
            +3
            Meanwhile, Russia successfully completed the commercial launch of a European spacecraft yesterday:

            1. Cosm22
              Cosm22 30 December 2020 11: 04
              -10%
              Implemented.
              On the RN developed by the Queen of the second half of the last century, only slightly modernized.
              And what does Russia have to do with the production of a European spacecraft?
              1. slipped
                slipped 30 December 2020 11: 07
                +2
                Quote: Cosm22
                Implemented.
                On the RN developed by the Queen of the second half of the last century, only slightly modernized.


                Not lightly. This is a completely different rocket for a long time.

                Quote: Cosm22
                And what does Russia have to do with the production of a European spacecraft?


                For the production of a European apparatus, no. Russia is selling a booster rocket and launch services to Arianspace. This is a successful and profitable commercial project for Russia.
                1. Cosm22
                  Cosm22 30 December 2020 12: 00
                  -6
                  Do not pull the owl on the globe.
                  Take the trouble to refer to the data of your so beloved Russian Wiki.
                  Then you will be surprised to learn that the Soyuz-ST-A launch vehicle is simply a modified Soyuz-2.1a. Which, in turn, is simply a modernized Soyuz-U. Which, in turn, is nothing more than a launch vehicle of the R-7 family. That is, the well-known royal "seven". Originally from the last century.
                  As for the benefits, it would be nice to support such a statement with a specific figure. For example, to announce the launch price for the Europeans.
                  1. Sergey Kulikov_3
                    Sergey Kulikov_3 30 December 2020 12: 17
                    -2
                    Take the trouble to look for information about space rockets of the other 14 republics of the former USSR, which had equal opportunities under the USSR, and during the collapse even had an advantageous position than the Russian Federation.
                    1. Cosm22
                      Cosm22 30 December 2020 13: 04
                      -6
                      Are we talking about 14 republics of the former USSR?
                      Or about the next Russian anti-record in the space industry?
                  2. slipped
                    slipped 30 December 2020 12: 49
                    +3
                    Quote: Cosm22
                    Then you will be surprised to learn that the Soyuz-ST-A launch vehicle is simply a modified Soyuz-2.1a.


                    For dunno. Soyuz-2 has different levels of modernization compared to the latest analogue missile Soyuz-U (FG):

                    "Soyuz-2.1a" is a digital control system.
                    Soyuz-2.1b is a new third stage with the RD-0124 engine, which is not related to Soyuz-U.
                    "Soyuz-2.1v" - the new first and second stages have nothing in common at all, except for their sizes, which have nothing to do with Soyuz-U.

                    Soyuz ST-A is a "tropical" version of Soyuz-2.1a.

                    The reasons why Soyuz-2 is currently being used by Russia are as follows:

                    1. The presence of a large number of built launches for this rocket at four cosmodromes.
                    2. Environmental safety and reliability of launches.
                    3. Low cost per kilogram of launching into a working orbit.

                    Quote: Cosm22
                    For example, to announce the launch price for the Europeans.


                    The rockets and their launches from the GKTs are sold by the Arianespace package. The price is generally beneficial to the Europeans; moreover, they are delighted with the rocket itself, their leader has repeatedly stated this. But they also add their own budgetary costs for the launch itself. Therefore, it is difficult to say now how much this particular launch costs for them.

                    In the most difficult case, i.e. Soyuz-2 ST-B launch vehicle, with the heaviest "Fregat-MT" missile launcher when launching a satellite of two and a half tons at the GPO - approximately $ 80 million.

                    For comparison, the launch of their light launch vehicle "Vega" costs them $ 45 million
                    1. Cosm22
                      Cosm22 30 December 2020 13: 23
                      -6
                      For the know-it-alls, the quotes are not random.
                      The entire family of Soyuz launch vehicles is only modifications and upgrades of the R-7 launch vehicle. Let me remind you again, from the last century.
                      There is nothing fundamentally new in the design of the modifications. Absolutely.
                      Not in concept.
                      Not in architecture.
                      Not in construction.
                      As for some changes in the modes of operation of engines, throttling and the use of "numbers", it would be extremely surprising if Russia did not do this in the 21st century. Even Papuans now use mobile phones.
                      But I believe that Europeans are delighted with the rocket.
                      But I want to ask a question - why?
                      And the answer is simple: it is cheap to start. Russia is forced to desperately dump in order to maintain its space prestige at least at a minimal level. To catch even the crumbs of the pie that Musk eats with gusto in the commercial market. To have at least one extra order on the side.
                      And then, it was not by chance that I asked the question about the launch price in the previous comment for the Europeans. Not for RK, he will draw any numbers.
                      Namely for the Europeans. I waited for an answer - "Therefore, it is difficult to say now how much this particular launch costs for them."
                      Difficult because it is embarrassing and impossible to voice the price. For RK will be immediately caught either lying or dumping.
                      1. slipped
                        slipped 30 December 2020 14: 45
                        +1
                        Quote: Cosm22
                        For the know-it-alls, the quotes are not random.
                        The entire family of Soyuz launch vehicles is only modifications and modernizations of the RN R-7


                        No. And above I explained what's what. If you find something in common in the design of the same Soyuz-2.1v, then only the elements of the body associated with the design feature of the SC. As for the Soyuz missile family itself, now Soyuz-5 is being created and Soyuz-6 is being worked out - both missiles for the former Zenith launch.

                        About Europeans you have a blizzard-blizzard. The sale price of our services for Arianspace is beneficial to Russia. laughing Your maskophilia has increased. lol
                      2. Bad_gr
                        Bad_gr 30 December 2020 15: 25
                        -3
                        Quote: Cosm22
                        and the use of "numbers", it would be extremely surprising if Russia did not do this in the 21st century. Even Papuans now use mobile phones.

                        Application of "numbers".
                        Can you see the difference in the size of the fairings? This is due to the "digital", the old analogue is not able to provide data processing for the stable flight of such a rocket.
            2. reader65
              reader65 31 December 2020 15: 18
              +2
              Yes, you, putinoidam-enemies of the people, piss in the eye-all the dew of God.
          2. A1845
            A1845 30 December 2020 13: 48
            -1
            Quote: YOUR
            Conclusion, we only have one
            "known difficult circumstances"
            - Rogozin.

            as always - some people and roads
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 30 December 2020 10: 54
          +11
          Quote: figvam
          In recent years, the statistics are about the same

          Stagnation like everything else? Meanwhile, other countries are adding strongly.
          1. Hypertension
            Hypertension 30 December 2020 11: 28
            +12
            Quote: Stas157
            Stagnation like everything else?

            But the accident rate decreases.

            And it's true: he who does not fly does not fall ...
            1. military_cat
              military_cat 30 December 2020 11: 54
              +4
              In 2018, the Soyuz with cosmonauts did not reach the ISS.
              But in 2019 and 2020, there really were no emergency launches.
              True, all of 2020 they were looking for a leak in the Zarya module, discovered back in 2019, and so far have not been found to the end.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 30 December 2020 17: 03
                -4
                ISS Khan's first modules have already begun to fall apart from old age.
        3. XXXIII
          XXXIII 30 December 2020 15: 18
          -1
          Quote: figvam
          A total of 33 space launches were planned for the outgoing year, of which slightly more than half were carried out.

          In recent years, the statistics are approximately the same, each year is about the same number of starts.
          Successful launches:
          2016 year - 16
          2017 year - 18
          2018 year - 15
          2019 year - 21
          2020 year - 18

          Stability?))
        4. bolt
          bolt 30 December 2020 22: 06
          0
          Quote: figvam
          Successful launches:
          2016 year - 16
          2017 year - 18
          2018 year - 15
          2019 year - 21
          2020 year - 18


          Specify.
          2014 - 26 launches, 3 foreign customers;
          2015 - 17 launches (!), 4 foreign customers, 1 unsuccessful;
          2016 - 15 launches (!!!), 3 foreign customers;
          2017 - 17 launches (!), 6 foreign customers;
          2018 - 20 launches, 4 foreign customers;
          2019 - 25 launches, 5 foreign customers;
          2020 - 17 launches (!), 4 foreign customers

          https://www.roscosmos.ru/launch/2020/
          The official website of Roscosmos, available to the Government, the Accounts Chamber, the media, foreign clients, "guard-experts". The data has not been disputed by anyone.

          Then, than the "shy" Author, who was ashamed to give his name out of understandable "modesty", will explain this statement:

          Russia has set a new anti-record: for the first time in the history of Soviet and Russian cosmonautics the number of space launches carried out by Roskosmos in a year did not reach 20.


          Anyway, how to explain the writing of such an article?

          After all, as it is easy to see, this is quite simply a refutable lie.

          Like this:

          Russia, since 2014, has been gradually losing the market for international commercial space launches.


          Based on statistics, it seems like the opposite ...

          And, if, as the Author believes,

          ... for the first time in history, an anti-record was set for the number of space launches,


          What does Roscosmos have to do with this "anti-record"? There were 17 launches in both 2015 and 2017. And in 2016 - in general, 15.
          1. slipped
            slipped 30 December 2020 23: 01
            +1
            Quote: crashing
            What does Roscosmos have to do with this "anti-record"? There were 17 launches in both 2015 and 2017. And in 2016 - in general, 15.


            You, like me earlier, were misled by incorrect data on launches for 15 and 16 years on the Roscosmos website. Some of the military launches and launches from Kuru and Kosmotras are absent for some reason.

            Here is the correct data:

            in 2015 - 29 launches
            in 2016 - 19 launches
            in 2017 - 21 launches
            in 2018 - 20 launches
            in 2019 - 25 launches
            in 2020 - 17 launches

            But the reasons for such a number this year are banal - the non-delivery of spacecraft by a foreign customer and the postponement of some launches due to the unavailability of the spacecraft.
      3. gsev
        gsev 1 January 2021 05: 03
        +1
        Quote: Login_Off
        There is no money, we leave the latter for the essentials:

        For Russia, where the working-age population is 8 times less than the PRC and 3 times less than the United States, this is a good and comparable result. Moreover, the profession of a designer in modern Russia is less prestigious and paid than a sales manager, salesman, waiter, policeman, FSB officer.
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 December 2020 08: 55
      +8
      Quote: apro
      for the next year.

      And if in the forecasts we take into account that 21 years old, 21 is a point, and a point has two meanings of the word, then the forecasts are very pessimistic. laughing although someone will see it trample. bully
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 30 December 2020 09: 03
        +4
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        And if, when making forecasts, we take into account that 21 years is a point, and a point has two meanings of the word, then the forecasts are very pessimistic

        Yeah. "This year has been challenging ......."
        1. Login_Off
          Login_Off 30 December 2020 09: 13
          +10

          Yes ... Here's next year ..
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 30 December 2020 09: 28
            +6
            Quote: Login_Off
            Yes ... Here's next year ..

            And so all 20 years ...
            1. YOUR
              YOUR 30 December 2020 10: 25
              +8
              I won't turn on TV, I'm afraid congratulations
          2. Nikolay1987
            Nikolay1987 30 December 2020 19: 01
            0
            it would be more cool if Semyon slepakov between verses-choruses, intonations of his words, depicted all 7 stages of acceptance hi
      2. Machito
        Machito 30 December 2020 09: 04
        +9
        But our Roskosmos is ahead of China and the United States combined in terms of grandiose plans for the future. Our spaceships will cross the vastness of the Bolshoi Theater. And they will be the furrowest of all.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 December 2020 17: 07
          -5
          And all these plans are being implemented in the hardware, reaching the next stage after R&D, starting from Union 5 and ending with the super heavy Yenisei and Nuclear Power Plant Nucleon.
      3. Whirlwind
        Whirlwind 31 December 2020 09: 21
        +2
        21 is a point, and a point has two meanings of the word, the forecasts are very pessimistic.

        Don't give me a shot. Let's break through ...
    3. Stas157
      Stas157 30 December 2020 08: 55
      +19
      ... the head of Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin, who explained that the reason for the two times less space launches than planned were "known difficult circumstances."

      Rogozin explained everything! We have nothing to do with it! All this coronavirus is to blame! Otherwise we would have bypassed China and America!

      So what if China and America are the first! But we have grandiose plans !!))

      "Achievements" just in all directions come after 20 years of Putin's rule. Especially the people "got rich"!
      1. Far B
        Far B 30 December 2020 09: 05
        +7
        Rogozin explained everything!
        Of course he explained. So straight and said:
        the reason was "known difficult circumstances"
        But now I know the name of that very dancer who is always hampered by "difficult circumstances". But, damn it, how gracefully he called his personal belongings!
      2. lucul
        lucul 30 December 2020 09: 47
        -8
        Rogozin explained everything! We have nothing to do with it! All this coronavirus is to blame! Otherwise we would have bypassed China and America!

        He just hinted that all our satellites are completely on imported components (electronics). And since we are under sanctions, we will not have any imported electronics. And this is not Rogozin's fault - he is not responsible for the development of electronics in the country. But they love to blame him for all the troubles.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 30 December 2020 09: 59
          +20
          Quote: lucul
          And this is not Rogozin's fault - he is not responsible for the development of electronics in the country. But they love to blame him for all the troubles.

          I agree. Ultimately, in the collapse, the one who put the journalist in charge of "space" is to blame. I wonder why it was not so under the Soviets?
          1. lucul
            lucul 30 December 2020 10: 04
            -1
            I wonder why it was not so under the Soviets?

            Because there was a production base. The satellite is not just a body, but also a bunch of mechanisms inside that need to be produced in the country, that is, in fact, technology.
            And without them - there will be no breakthrough, and Rogozin has nothing to do with it.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 30 December 2020 10: 21
          +6
          Quote: lucul
          He just hinted that all our satellites are completely on imported components (electronics). And since we are under sanctions, we will not have any imported electronics.

          And a year ago, when he voiced plans for a huge, he, of course, was not aware of this.
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 December 2020 17: 09
          -6
          Generally, 70% of the electronics in them are of domestic production.
    4. janeck
      janeck 30 December 2020 09: 43
      +9
      and by the number of the most expensive yachts .. we are ahead of both the USA and the PRC combined.
      1. halpat
        halpat 30 December 2020 09: 57
        +19
        Quote: Janek
        and by the number of the most expensive yachts .. we are ahead of both the USA and the PRC combined.

        By the way, yes. Mr. Mordashov ordered and bought a yacht Nord.

        $ 300 million, 142 meters long and all that stuff.
        For comparison, the frigate "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov" is 135 meters long.

        But "the circumstances are complex and well-known." "No money, but you hold on"
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 December 2020 17: 11
          -13%
          Let him buy his money, he has no relation to space, he has no other areas of activity.
          1. halpat
            halpat 30 December 2020 23: 18
            0
            Quote: Vadim237
            Let him buy his money, he has no relation to space, he has no other areas of activity.

            Well, yes, it used to be: Everything for the front! Everything for victory! (I. Stalin)


            The results are known, understandable, and worthy. Russia is proud of them and still uses them, in particular in the defense sphere. And Western "partners" cannot deny, even gritting their teeth and diligently rewriting history.

            And now: There is no money, but you are holding on (D. Medvedev).
            And yachts ... with an enviable frequency go down into the water :) or a habak and 1.5 yards of greens are frozen to a famous innovation city builder in Switzerland, a couple of years after the warnings from each iron - "you are tortured to swallow dust."
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 31 December 2020 13: 05
              -4
              Well, yes, it used to be: Everything for the front! This was before - now there is no front and Russia does not participate in the races with the United States - but everyone is busy with their own directions and there is nothing to attribute to the purchase of yachts for space, this is a private net profit, the owner himself disposes of where and what to invest in.
    5. fetus
      fetus 30 December 2020 09: 48
      +14
      this trend has been going on since 2014. "This is mainly due to the loss of the international space launch market."
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 30 December 2020 11: 12
        -1
        There are two reasons for this trend.
        1. Russia was cut off after the well-known events of 2014 from Western technologies and components.
        2. Musk cut Russia off from the international commercial space market. Everything that the Russian Federation has on this market today (such as One Web orders) is pitiful crumbs.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 30 December 2020 17: 14
          -6
          What other technologies? - Yes, there are components, but not all of them, and since 2014, more than 1600 positions have been replaced on our own in all directions and space is the same.
      2. Whirlwind
        Whirlwind 31 December 2020 09: 34
        -1
        this trend has been going on since 2014. "This is mainly due to the loss of the international space launch market."

        And who doesn’t let me think about why the US and NATO have been imposing sanctions since that very 2014? Or was it necessary to give the Crimea to the Americans for a naval base? Many would be pleased. Not Putin.
        Look at the root and do not get fooled by different "hee hee, ha ha."
        "Laughs from, who laughs last" ...
    6. paul3390
      paul3390 30 December 2020 09: 55
      +5
      Why an anti-record ???? can there be optimization !!! and how much money they saved ... and nerves ... or maybe this was the idea ... to get up from his knees ... and for that for the next year ..

      Apparently - it is necessary to treat this with understanding .. Well - as usual with the next nasty thing.
    7. slipped
      slipped 30 December 2020 10: 45
      0
      Quote: apro
      Why an anti-record ???? can there be optimization !!! and how much money they saved ... and nerves ... or maybe this was the idea ... to get up from his knees ... and for that for the next year ..


      Well, RIA went to a direct forgery. About the "anti-record". Since there were 2016 launches in 15, there were 2017 launches in 17 ... laughing

      The hamsters picked it up. lol
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 30 December 2020 11: 15
        -1
        Those. there is no anti-record?
        And should Russia be proud of the number of launches this year?
        1. slipped
          slipped 30 December 2020 12: 22
          -5
          Quote: Cosm22
          Those. there is no anti-record?


          No.

          Quote: Cosm22
          And should Russia be proud of the number of launches this year?


          It's not about quantity, it's about quality. Russia has increased its grouping of civilian spacecraft for various purposes, including the launch of the latest devices up to 99 pieces. In addition, it continued to launch the new Angara rocket. It is worth being proud of.
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 30 December 2020 13: 32
            +1
            I dare say that Musk displays 60 of these devices at a time. And he is no longer proud of this, because for him this is a passed stage, a routine. Does Russia have reason to be proud?
            As for "Angara", it will not be superfluous to recall the school course of the Russian language and how the singular differs from the plural. Or will we also remember 2014?
            And what is there to be proud of? The fact that we can’t bother and bring to mind an expensive project that is not needed by anyone on the international market, is not competitive even in the domestic market?
            1. slipped
              slipped 30 December 2020 14: 58
              -4
              Quote: Cosm22
              I dare say that Musk displays 60 of these devices at a time.


              The maskophilicity of the brain continues. laughing There is no such. The size of the Starlink system apparatus is the same as our Messenger. We do not need so many vehicles in our groupings now.

              About KRK Angara is also a blizzard. The rockets of this family allow Russia to have independent access to space and the price does not matter here.
      2. slipped
        slipped 30 December 2020 22: 20
        -2
        Quote: slipped
        Since there were 2016 launches in 15, there were 2017 launches in 17 ... laughing


        I apologize for the incorrect information. Was misled by incomplete data on the Roscosmos website. The reasons for the incomplete data on launches are not clear to me. Checked with independent sources.

        in 2016 - 19 launches, in 2017 - 21 launches

        This includes all military commercials from Kosmotras and from Kuru.
    8. g1v2
      g1v2 30 December 2020 14: 11
      -1
      I looked - all the same in the arena. One has only to find negative news, as the vultures cluck happily. At the same time, they naturally cannot understand the meaning of the news or its reasons. Anyway .
      And the meaning is simple. Cooperation with the West in space ends. The West will squeeze us out of their markets for commercial launches and give them to their companies. They also plan to deliver astronauts with their rockets. Serious countries - India, China and Iran have their own space programs. There are few paying customers and we will have to fight for them. Again, they will not be able to provide a regular download. You need to count on your load. Hence the plans for the Sphere project with half a thousand satellites. It is being worked out now, but without it, it is unlikely that it will be possible to ensure regular loading of the factories.
    9. Nikolay1987
      Nikolay1987 30 December 2020 18: 51
      +1
      Quote: apro
      Why an anti-record ???? can there be optimization !!! and how much money they saved ... and nerves ... or maybe this was the idea ... to get up from his knees ... and for that for the next year ..

      It's just that 2020 is bad, now it will be 2021 and it will be better (sarcasm)
    10. smart ass
      smart ass 31 December 2020 10: 06
      +1
      A filthy broom cattail needed revenge a few years ago
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    12. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 31 December 2020 17: 29
      0
      Quote: apro
      Why an anti-record ???? can optimization !!! and how much money did you save ...

      The father of my school friend, who built rockets in the USSR, in Kuibyshev, a leading engineer (such a position) during the construction of Soyuz, said that the rocket would be cheaper if it were made of pure gold. So, maybe we are wrong and wrong that we saved in a difficult year?
  2. Varyag71
    Varyag71 30 December 2020 08: 44
    -3
    The longer Putin's power, the more anti-records we have.
    1. mark1
      mark1 30 December 2020 08: 50
      -8
      Are you moaning under the yoke?
      In general, we are not setting records at the Olympiad - today less tomorrow (I hope) more. It's too early to talk about the trend.
      1. Varyag71
        Varyag71 30 December 2020 08: 55
        0
        Yes, pensioners moan, ordinary people moan, small and medium-sized businesses moan. But everything is fine and good, who is at the trough. These will be in abundance in any crisis.
        And as they say, trust in God, but don't make a mistake yourself. With this power, no ideology, no bright future, no breakthrough. Only every year the appearance and increase of fines, taxes, extortions, and more and more bans.
        1. mark1
          mark1 30 December 2020 08: 59
          +2
          You call this groan a song ... (eternal and under any power, even under Soviet power)
          1. Varyag71
            Varyag71 30 December 2020 09: 08
            -3
            Well, tell me, who groaned there under Soviet power? Parasites, but loafers and bandits, who are now all in sweet places.
            1. mark1
              mark1 30 December 2020 09: 23
              +1
              Yes, you moaned. I have seen many people like you. Your wave and the country washed away
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 09: 33
                -3
                Quote: mark1
                Your wave and the country washed away

                Can you substantiate this assumption? Didn't those who destroyed the country who are now in power? Do you remember who Sobchak wore a suitcase? Whom did Chubais bring to the Kremlin?
              2. Varyag71
                Varyag71 30 December 2020 13: 08
                0
                I was born in 1980. Start point by point when and where I moaned.
            2. lucul
              lucul 30 December 2020 09: 51
              +4
              Well, tell me, who groaned there under Soviet power?

              Then why did no one come out to defend the Soviet regime in 1991, if everyone loved it so much? ))))
              1. Stas157
                Stas157 30 December 2020 10: 01
                +15
                Quote: lucul
                why no one came out to defend the Soviet regime in 1991, if it is so everyone loved ?

                Why all? You didn't love.
                1. lucul
                  lucul 30 December 2020 10: 45
                  -5
                  Why all? You didn't love.

                  I was 13 years old then)))
                  This is, as it were, not the age about which we can say that brains work meaningfully.
                  1. Stas157
                    Stas157 30 December 2020 10: 49
                    +16
                    Quote: lucul
                    I was 13 years old then)))

                    Quote: lucul
                    why nobody came out defend Soviet power

                    Do you think now the people will dump their beloved Putin to defend?
                    1. lucul
                      lucul 30 December 2020 10: 51
                      -4
                      Do you think now the people will dump their beloved Putin to defend?

                      I think that if we put the question bluntly - either again the power of the communists or we leave everything as it is, then the majority will choose - as it is now.
                      1. Varyag71
                        Varyag71 30 December 2020 13: 09
                        +1
                        You didn't have a brain in 13, what now. Do not write more, do not disgrace yourself.
                      2. lucul
                        lucul 30 December 2020 14: 00
                        -4
                        You didn't have a brain in 13, what now. Do not write more, do not disgrace yourself.

                        And this is what a communist says)))
                        Denial of reality will soon be your universal credo))))
                      3. Vadim237
                        Vadim237 30 December 2020 17: 29
                        -5
                        Or maybe you will finish writing nonsense, especially about the groans of small and medium-sized businesses, he is more or less normal, and most of the people do not groan, they do not work until they groan, but at the expense of breakthroughs, they are in all directions, one of them
                        "Scientists of the NRC" Kurchatov Institute "as part of a research group have received promising material for the creation of self-learning neuromorphic computing systems. Their energy efficiency exceeds traditional computers by several orders of magnitude.

                        The new material, manufactured using the original technology, has all the necessary characteristics to simulate the neural contacts of a biosimilar computing system. On its basis, a prototype of a self-learning robotic device was created.

                        The new material is a layered structure of lithium niobate with the inclusion of metal nanocrystals. It was made by sequential deposition of thin films by ion-beam deposition. The researchers found that the concentration of metallic nanocrystals in a material has a significant effect on its properties. By varying the composition of thin films, they were able to select “ideal” parameters at which the nanocomposite demonstrates the best characteristics.

                        The material developed by the scientists mimics artificial neural contacts much more accurately than traditional metal oxide semiconductors. The reason for this is the mechanisms by which this nanocomposite functions in a neuromorphic device. As in a living system, signal processing here has an analog character, and the change in the strength of the connection between artificial neurons is carried out by changing the concentration and diffusion of ions.
                        A distinctive feature of the new material is that the neuromorphic system created on its basis is capable of imitating the "plasticity" property of the brain. So, in a living organism, dopamine can regulate the strength of interaction between neurons, and in a new device, artificial neurotransmitters play this role.

                        The advantage of such a system is that the learning process does not require the presence of a "teacher". The device adjusts itself by interacting with the environment, which is the source of the so-called "rewards" and "punishments".

                        Based on the new nanocomposite, scientists have created arrays of memristors and constructed prototypes of neuromorphic systems. Pilot tests have shown that such biosimilar devices are able to "adapt" to different initial conditions. This opens up prospects for the creation of large neuromorphic systems with the ability to self-learn. "
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 30 December 2020 09: 02
      +6
      Quote: mark1
      Are you moaning under the yoke?
      In general, we are not setting records at the Olympiad - today less tomorrow (I hope) more. It's too early to talk about the trend.

      Don't worry, it will get worse.
      1. mark1
        mark1 30 December 2020 09: 05
        +2
        I'm not worried and I know everything as well as you, I just don't like hysteria.
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 09: 20
        -4
        hi Hello Kamrad!
        Quote: Stroporez
        Don't worry, it will get worse.

        Who would doubt it, they didn’t give me children this month, they said they didn’t transfer the federal budget, they’ll get it next year. It reminds me of something very familiar to me.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 30 December 2020 09: 25
          +2
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Who would doubt it, they didn’t give me children this month, they said they didn’t transfer the federal budget, they’ll get it next year. It reminds me of something very familiar to me.

          Greetings, Comrade! hi On the other hand, Putin's friends have grown rich by $ 62 billion during the apandemic period.
          1. lucul
            lucul 30 December 2020 09: 53
            -2
            On the other hand, Putin's friends have grown rich by $ 62 billion during the apandemic period.

            You forgot to add 1 more zero - it will be more accurate)))
        2. dragy52rus
          dragy52rus 30 December 2020 09: 26
          +1
          they gave money badly, they didn't give money too bad. is it good at all?
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 30 December 2020 09: 38
            +9
            Quote: dragy52rus
            gave money poorly

            Was that money? So one-time handouts to children who are in acute shortage in today's Russia.
            1. dragy52rus
              dragy52rus 30 December 2020 09: 44
              -1
              what I'm writing about: they gave it badly, they didn't give it too badly. do you feel good?
        3. mark1
          mark1 30 December 2020 09: 29
          +1
          And my mom's pension for January has already been transferred ... so what?
      3. g1v2
        g1v2 30 December 2020 14: 12
        -1
        Worse than it was under your rule? Unlikely.
    3. Svarog
      Svarog 30 December 2020 09: 16
      +3
      Quote: mark1
      In general, we are not setting records at the Olympics - today less tomorrow (I hope) more

      So we are at the Olympics under the neutral flag .. Everywhere "success" wassat
      1. lucul
        lucul 30 December 2020 09: 55
        -4
        So we are at the Olympics under the neutral flag .. Everywhere "success"

        Why so? According to you, we are a colony of the West? ))))
    4. Stas157
      Stas157 30 December 2020 09: 23
      +11
      Quote: mark1
      Moaning under yoke?

      You named the existing regime very accurately! This definition is fine.

      Quote: mark1
      In general, we are not setting records at the Olympics

      And that Russia sets records at the Olympics ?? In my opinion, there, too, lately, everything is like in Russian space. Gradual surrender of positions. And it is not the athletes who are to blame, but their leadership.
    5. Andrei from Chelyabinsk
      Andrei from Chelyabinsk 30 December 2020 09: 24
      +10
      Quote: mark1
      It's too early to talk about the trend.

      It's too late to talk about a trend in our space industry.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 December 2020 17: 33
        -4
        You bury her early in this decade, she will grow.
    6. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 30 December 2020 09: 59
      +5
      Quote: mark1
      In general, we are not setting records at the Olympiad - today less tomorrow (I hope) more. It's too early to talk about the trend.

      When is it not early? When will New Zealand overtake us? In the 70-80s, the share of the USSR in launches was 70-80%. 90s - the share of Russia is 30-40%. This year 15. The trend is more than obvious. The backlog of the USSR is practically exhausted. An amazing society has been built in Russia. In which the janitor of the gasprom gets about the same as an engineer in the space industry. Do you really think that an intelligent person will rape his brain for 15 years, and even gain 10 experience in order to eventually reach the welfare level of a semi-literate loader? Heh. Yes, it's easier to suffer the whole school of garbage, trample the parade ground for a year, go to the teaching staff, get snot on the shoulder straps, and in 2-3 years the same 35-40 that a cosmo engineer has after 20-30 years of continuous tension. And in the presence of at least a couple of convolutions, and very little luck in the growth of stars on shoulder straps ... yes The state needs managers and police officers. And space ... This is for the mentally retarded. yes
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 30 December 2020 12: 50
        0
        And space ... This is for the mentally retarded.
        and for the accomplices of the West, receiving cookies from the State Department :))))
        1. Lannan Shi
          Lannan Shi 30 December 2020 13: 13
          +4
          Quote: Intruder
          and for the accomplices of the West, receiving cookies from the State Department :))))

          Watching Mr. Putin's inner circle. There are zero engineers from the space industry. From the defense industry, exactly zero. And in general there are exactly zero engineers. But a bunch of all sorts of individuals who followed the path of digging the subsoil, drank off government orders and other activities that are of little use for the country, but profitable for the pocket. According to you, we are seeing a stronghold of Western accomplices and liver eaters. yes
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 30 December 2020 14: 01
            0
            Great conclusion - I'm glad, honestly !!! Happy New Year, all the best and Health :)
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 December 2020 17: 37
        -3
        "In the 70-80s, the share of the USSR in launches is 70-80%. In the 90s, the share of Russia is 30-40%. This year 15. The trend is more than obvious. The backlog of the USSR is practically exhausted." It was 40 years ago - the whole world does not stand still, everyone develops and begins to engage in space themselves, the loss of a monopoly in the space sphere on launches is inevitable.
        1. mark1
          mark1 31 December 2020 06: 44
          0
          Vadim, to compare the Great and Mighty with the modern Russian Federation is not correct, at least. The fact that the share is now falling is a natural move, you yourself say
          Quote: Vadim237
          The whole world does not stand still, everyone develops and begins to engage in space themselves, the loss of a monopoly in the space sphere on launches is inevitable.

          the main thing is not to depend on anyone in space and only then think about market share
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 31 December 2020 13: 07
            -2
            “The main thing is not to depend on anyone in space and only then think about the market share” And what does Russia depend on in the space sphere?
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 31 December 2020 13: 09
            -2
            And yes, in the space sphere of the USSR, the United States lost its leadership in the late 60s.
  3. dragy52rus
    dragy52rus 30 December 2020 08: 52
    -8
    Quote: Varyag71
    we eat more anti-records.

    do you have it in Ukraine?
    1. Varyag71
      Varyag71 30 December 2020 08: 58
      -1
      stupid question of a stupid kremlebot.
      1. dragy52rus
        dragy52rus 30 December 2020 09: 15
        -6
        and you, as I understand it, is a smart liberal? so share these anti-records.
        1. Varyag71
          Varyag71 30 December 2020 09: 38
          -1
          My friend, you are wrong with the definitions. Liberals are in the Kremlin, and I personally rank myself among the Stalinists.
          1. dragy52rus
            dragy52rus 30 December 2020 09: 45
            -5
            anti-records where?
          2. lucul
            lucul 30 December 2020 09: 57
            -3
            My friend, you are wrong with the definitions. Liberals are in the Kremlin, and I personally rank myself among the Stalinists.

            I’m wondering what will change for you personally if the communists come to power tomorrow? Have you thought about it? ))))
            1. Varyag71
              Varyag71 30 December 2020 10: 04
              0
              Look what was done for the country and for the people in the USSR, and then write.
              And for me personally, faith in the future and pride in the country will change!
              1. lucul
                lucul 30 December 2020 10: 46
                +2
                Look what was done for the country and for the people in the USSR, and then write.

                Then why did no one come out to defend the Soviet regime in 1991?
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 09: 02
      -1
      Quote: dragy52rus
      do you have it in Ukraine?

      Let me know from what premises did you make such a "profound" conclusion? Or you were simply kicked out at two hours and you are now trying to joke here?
      1. Varyag71
        Varyag71 30 December 2020 09: 09
        +1
        And they always have either a spy from the State Department, or from Ukraine.
        1. dragy52rus
          dragy52rus 30 December 2020 09: 21
          -6
          Outside the window, rain and hail. This is Putin's fault!
          The cat left the kittens - Putin is to blame,
          Mistress threw a hare - Guilty, guess!
          Here comes the board The unfortunate goby,
          Our Tanya cries loudly - Nearby Putin, not otherwise!
          The light went out, the fence fell, The car stalled motor,
          Healthy tooth removed Ile climbed into the apartment thief,
          I didn’t like the movie. You’ve come to shit ...
          Any cataclysm has one explanation ...
          Every democrat knows - Putin is to blame!
          Who yesterday in my porch Lift to the ceiling?
          Believe me, comrades, this is Putin’s hand!
          I caught drunk "squirrel" - This is Putin's tricks!
          A pile of shit under the table. This is Putin's fault!
          The toilet is clogged - This is Putin’s order,
          I threw bull-calves there, Merged water - and was such!
          At night, the clothes are stolen, Glasses are breaking in our house.
          Dancing drunk in the yard. This is Putin - a riffraff!
          There is no escape from the villain! Matom writes on the walls
          Broke the bushes in the alley. This is Putin - oh and oh!
          Liberala is wetting the rain - Putin laughs merrily.
          Flooded your cottage? - This is Putin, not otherwise!
          Did you find a thunderstorm along the way? - That hand got the Kremlin.
          Cold, wind, snow - Putin is again to blame.
          Blowing down a hurricane? - This is Putin taking revenge on the rams.
          Storm, tsunami, flood? - This is Putin, no doubt!
          Rainstorm, landslide, cyclone - Of course he is to blame
          Sel, avalanche, rockfall? - Clear: Putin is to blame!
          Tornado, typhoon, earthquake - There is no escape from Putin!
          A crow pecked at the crown? - This is a young friend of the riot police.
          Bees, wasps sting you? - This is Putin's SpetsNaz.
          See this bumblebee? - He is in the service of the Kremlin!
          If you believe in it - It's just paranoia!
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 09: 27
            +7
            Quote: dragy52rus
            Rain and hail outside the window. It is Putin's fault! ......

            And if we leave such "poetry alone", who is to blame for such "successes" of our space industry?
            1. stalkerwalker
              stalkerwalker 30 December 2020 09: 45
              -2
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Quote: dragy52rus
              Rain and hail outside the window. It is Putin's fault! ......

              And if we leave such "poetry alone", who is to blame for such "successes" of our space industry?

              The human factor has certain influence, no doubt.
              But don't forget about funding.
              In recent years, Russia has been investing huge amounts of money in weapons: both the modernization of existing models and the creation of new ones. "Bolivar cannot bear two," especially since our military budget is less than that of the United States, and the change of generations in the space industry affects.
              In a word, "The first thing is to protect the country, but (girls) the space sphere is still on a leftover principle. This is for now. Although against the background of the adoption of the new US military budget in the amount of $ 780 billion, and having a pronounced anti-Russian orientation, the third place in the number of launches spacecraft somehow does not cause much concern.
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 09: 49
                +8
                Quote: stalkerwalker
                In a word, "The first step is to protect the country, .......

                Is it okay that our military budget is also being reduced? Do you even think sometimes what you write and what you refer to.
                1. stalkerwalker
                  stalkerwalker 30 December 2020 09: 51
                  +1
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Is it okay that our military budget is also being reduced? Do you even think sometimes what you write and what you refer to.

                  I love you too, you are our clever ...
                  love
            2. dragy52rus
              dragy52rus 30 December 2020 09: 48
              -1
              I understand that you know the places where you can take orders for launches. share.
              why should the number of launches keep growing?
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 09: 53
                +2
                Quote: dragy52rus
                I understand that you know the places where you can take orders for launches. share.
                why should the number of launches keep growing?

                Shouldn't there be launches in the interests of your country? We have nothing to put into orbit? And about commercial launches, do we have a competitive price if there are fewer of them and the Americans and the Chinese moved us?
                1. dragy52rus
                  dragy52rus 30 December 2020 10: 28
                  -1
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Shouldn't there be launches in the interests of your country?

                  and why don't they?
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 10: 32
                    0
                    Quote: dragy52rus
                    and why don't they?

                    Well, the article is about that in terms of the number of launches, we "lose heavily" to our "partners".
              2. stalkerwalker
                stalkerwalker 30 December 2020 09: 53
                +1
                The number of know-it-alls on the site is growing in proportion to the number of people infected with the coronavirus.
                A pandemic can also be virtual ...
                wassat
          2. Svarog
            Svarog 30 December 2020 09: 29
            +6
            Outside the window, rain and hail. This is Putin's fault!

            Putin is not to blame for anything ... he so ... passed by ...
            1. Varyag71
              Varyag71 30 December 2020 09: 40
              +1
              For more than 20 years it has been passing by, but it will not pass. It looks like it is creeping.
          3. Varyag71
            Varyag71 30 December 2020 09: 39
            -1
            This is outdated information from the manual. Now you are to blame for raznotki, Pechenegs, WWII, 90s, covid.
            1. dragy52rus
              dragy52rus 30 December 2020 09: 46
              -5
              who do you have it?
              1. Mordvin 3
                Mordvin 3 30 December 2020 10: 29
                0
                Quote: dragy52rus
                who do you have it?

                Is everything going in Nizhny Novgorod?
            2. Sentinel-vs
              Sentinel-vs 30 December 2020 09: 49
              +8
              Don't forget about Comrade. Lenin, who planted a bomb under the foundation!
              1. Malyuta
                Malyuta 30 December 2020 11: 52
                +12
                Quote: Sentinel-vs
                Don't forget about Comrade. Lenin, who planted a bomb under the foundation!

                And only galoshes could do.
          4. Stas157
            Stas157 30 December 2020 09: 44
            +16
            Quote: dragy52rus
            The cat abandoned the kittens - It's Putin's fault

            Is he at least in some way, at least for some problems, the answer is?
            1. Lannan Shi
              Lannan Shi 30 December 2020 10: 11
              +6
              Quote: Stas157
              Is he at least in some way, at least for some problems, the answer is?

              No, he's a monument.
          5. Intruder
            Intruder 30 December 2020 12: 53
            -3
            If you believe in it - It's just paranoia!

            But if, not she - then the garbage surrounding everyone rhyme smiled;)))
      2. Kart
        Kart 30 December 2020 09: 10
        -3
        The conclusion is simple.
        He gives you a chance - only a foreigner from the former Ukraine can hate and despise Russia this way.
        Or a Russian displaced to the top of his head.
        Or a paid scoundrel-traitor.
        Choose.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 30 December 2020 09: 17
          +3
          Quote: Carte
          The conclusion is simple.
          He gives you a chance - only a foreigner from the former Ukraine can hate and despise Russia this way.
          Or a Russian displaced to the top of his head.
          Or a paid scoundrel-traitor.
          Choose.

          There are also pragmatists and just healthy people on the list who can see, hear and analyze ..
          1. Kart
            Kart 30 December 2020 09: 24
            -3
            How can a healthy, intelligent person hate the country in which he lives?
            Moreover - to longing to destroy it? After all, they do not write about Putin, but about the country. Say, she is "not that", not correct. And if so, then everything that happens in it is bad by default.

            Healthy pragmatists - these are just for the money. Everything is extremely pragmatic - your own seat is warm and full.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 30 December 2020 09: 28
              +1
              Quote: Carte
              How can a healthy, intelligent person hate the country in which he lives?

              They hate not the country, but the managers .. who have seized power and make people's lives worse and worse from year to year. The failures of these figures are everywhere .. it is impossible not to notice them.
              1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
                Uncle Vanya Susanin 30 December 2020 16: 57
                +1
                They hate not the country, but the managers .. who grabbed the power


                Oh, oh, and oh, in 1917 the managers are not the same, in 91 they are not the same, and now they are again not the same, what a trouble with these managers request
            2. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 09: 35
              +2
              Quote: Carte
              How can a healthy, intelligent person hate the country in which he lives? ...

              You are again confusing the country and "His Excellency".
              1. Varyag71
                Varyag71 30 December 2020 09: 41
                +1
                This is probably Volodin left a comment. After all, he has the words, there will be no Putin, there will be no Russia.
              2. Pavel73
                Pavel73 30 December 2020 09: 56
                -3
                Nobody confuses anything. Management may be wrong, may make unpopular decisions. But if you try to change it illegally, then the end will come to the state, and the country, and the people. The leader is an ordinary person. On which the heavy hat of Monomakh is worn and over which the Damocles sword of responsibility hangs. It is necessary to help him, not to water with shit.
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 10: 00
                  +2
                  Quote: Pavel73
                  Management can be wrong, can make unpopular decisions ...

                  Management should be held accountable for their decisions. Or don't you think so?
                  1. Pavel73
                    Pavel73 30 December 2020 10: 01
                    +3
                    Yes, it should. But only according to the law, and nothing else.
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 10: 09
                      0
                      Quote: Pavel73
                      Yes, it should. But only according to the law, and nothing else.

                      I am for it. Because when it spits on the laws they themselves have written, there comes a time when many "passion-bearers" appear and ask, "And what about us? We wanted the best."
              3. Volder
                Volder 30 December 2020 10: 00
                -3
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                You are again confusing the country and "His Excellency".
                There are no sanctions against "His Excellency". The West hates Russia as a country and as a people in general, and the grunting liberals justify this by the fact that "everything is bad" in Russia, it is better to capitulate and let Zarad manipulate Russia (as in the 90s).
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 10: 05
                  +3
                  Quote: Volder
                  The West hates Russia as a country and a people in general,

                  Who would argue.
                  Quote: Volder
                  and the grunting liberals ...

                  And they just sit in power, have families and real estate in NATO countries and act only in the interests of their own pockets. Are Chubais and Potanin already cutting the forest in Kolyma? Think before you write, is it not difficult?
              4. Avior
                Avior 30 December 2020 10: 33
                +2
                There is nothing new under the sun smile
          2. Pavel73
            Pavel73 30 December 2020 09: 28
            -1
            No, this is just skillful Western propaganda. Through the Internet. It gives many people the wrong impression that they are "pragmatists and healthy people who can see, hear and analyze." In fact, they are also victims of propaganda. Only on the other side of the border.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 30 December 2020 09: 37
              +2
              Quote: Pavel73
              In fact, they are also victims of propaganda. Only on the other side of the border.

              Can you explain how Western propaganda affects space launches in Russia and the low standard of living of the population?
              1. Pavel73
                Pavel73 30 December 2020 09: 51
                +2
                Low living standards ?! It's funny to hear about this, standing after work in a traffic jam of not cheap cars, looking at cottage villages in which not oligarchs live, and which grow around cities like mushrooms after rain. And this is not Moscow, not St. Petersburg, or even Yekaterinburg. And before the pandemic, Russia's population flew all over the world. Directly above my house is an air route, along which liners one after another to Thailand, to Vietnam, to Hainan. Is this called "low living standards"? Anyone who wants can buy a car, a computer, furnish an apartment, build their own house, fly abroad, and all this for a reasonable price. Is this called "low living standards"? As for space launches, in this case, quality is more important than quantity. And we will catch up with the number: much more launches are planned for 2021.
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 30 December 2020 10: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: Pavel73
                  Low living standards ?! It's funny to hear about it, standing after work in a traffic jam of not cheap cars,

                  Do you write such agitation for money or are you an enthusiast?
                  1. Pavel73
                    Pavel73 30 December 2020 10: 34
                    +2
                    I write about what I see around me. Just yesterday a new street in new buildings was opened in our city.
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 30 December 2020 10: 43
                      +2
                      Quote: Pavel73
                      I write about what I see around me. Just yesterday a new street in new buildings was opened in our city.

                      And in our city all types of goods have risen in price from 10 to 25%.
                    2. Pavel73
                      Pavel73 30 December 2020 10: 46
                      -5
                      The market will align everything. The rise in price of any product leads to a decrease in the number of buyers. The consumer goods market is a self-regulating system, so price increases do not lead to disaster.
                    3. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 30 December 2020 10: 49
                      +4
                      Quote: Pavel73
                      therefore, price increases do not lead to disaster.

                      I remembered an old Russian proverb about eyes and dew.
                    4. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 30 December 2020 15: 27
                      +2
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      I remembered an old Russian saying about

                      pig and dirt. Do you know this one?
                  2. stalkerwalker
                    stalkerwalker 30 December 2020 10: 52
                    +1
                    It's funny to see overcrowded shops and supermarkets in recent days, when parking spaces are packed to the horizon with the cars of beggar Russians, and you can't find a free cart at the entrance - goods are swept away from the counters on the eve of the holiday, only they have time to bring them from the back room ...
                    But there are individuals with pronounced sadomasochistic inclinations who are nostalgic about half-empty or just empty counters with only price tags instead of goods.
                    This is a clinic.
                    laughing
                  3. Sentinel-vs
                    Sentinel-vs 30 December 2020 12: 16
                    +3
                    A funny thing :)
                  4. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 30 December 2020 17: 58
                    0
                    This is not a clinic, this is a way of life "to live in the old way" - it is imprinted in the DNA of those who, after the collapse of the USSR, were lost.
        2. Stas157
          Stas157 30 December 2020 10: 23
          +6
          Quote: Pavel73
          It's funny to hear about it while standing in a traffic jam of not cheap cars after work.

          When there is nothing to cover, they start a hackneyed record about cars.

          You except personal emotions can you give at least some statistics (factual) confirming your myth about the luxurious life of the Russian people?

          Quote: Pavel73
          As for space launches, in this case quality is more important than quantity.

          And what are our space products characterized by high quality ?? Recently, both quality and quantity have been falling.

          Quote: Pavel73
          And the number we will catch up

          When overtake the United States and China, as it was before 2015?
          1. Pavel73
            Pavel73 30 December 2020 10: 54
            -1
            We seem to be talking about space launches, and not about the spacecraft themselves. Launch quality is the successful placement of the vehicle into the target orbit.
        3. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 30 December 2020 10: 43
          +3
          Quote: Pavel73
          looking at the cottage villages in which not oligarchs live,

          My friend has been building a house for 30 years, working as an electrician. Haven't paid for it yet. There is no money even for the Internet, not to mention the car. But the neighbors to the left and right, in a couple of years, built huts one and a half or two times more. Both are from government agencies.
          significantly more launches are planned for 2021.
          Much more was planned for this year too.
        4. Uncle Vanya Susanin
          Uncle Vanya Susanin 30 December 2020 17: 00
          +1
          You don’t understand, not everyone can afford yachts, and without a yacht, what life is such a vegetation!
      3. Volder
        Volder 30 December 2020 10: 13
        -4
        Quote: Stroporez
        How does Western propaganda affect space launches in Russia and the low standard of living of the population?
        1. The largest number of launches from Western or Asian "partners" creates the illusion of technological superiority. However, these are just routine launches of the same type, testifying to the success of sales of space services. That is, goofy marketing. China, however, got to the moon - this is a real development, unlike the United States.
        2. The low standard of living of the lion's share of the population has always been, throughout the history of the existence of the Russian state. That is, before Putin too. In this sense, it makes no difference who will be at the helm of the state.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 30 December 2020 10: 23
          +5
          Quote: Volder
          1. The largest number of launches from Western or Asian "partners" creates the illusion of technological superiority.

          Are you saying that Musk's reusable rockets are not technological superiority?
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 30 December 2020 10: 39
            +16
            Quote: Stroporez
            Are you saying that Musk's reusable rockets are not technological superiority?

            Certainly not lagging behind.
          2. Woodman
            Woodman 30 December 2020 10: 56
            -2
            Quote: Stroporez
            You mean to say that Musk's reusable rockets

            Not in order to belittle the dignity of Musk's reusable rockets, but purely to improve their own education, could you provide information which of the Musk's reusable rockets put something useful into orbit more than once?
            1. Cosm22
              Cosm22 30 December 2020 11: 45
              -3
              Do you think that Falcons with a reusable first stage only lift air into space? And so Musk moved back to second place in the ranking of the richest people in the world?
              And already two stages, which completed 7 take-off and landing cycles, did not bring any kopeck to Musk, because they flew without PN?
              Do you even know that almost all launches for the withdrawal of the next batch of Starlink satellites are carried out on stages with reuse? Moreover, already with repeated use?
              Are you aware that NASA has certified the reuse of Falcon's first stages, not only for Dragon trucks, but also for manned spacecraft?
              Or do you need more detailed info?
              Please take any step at random. Let's say, under the number B1046.3 of the Block 5 version, the final modification of the Falcon 9, which has already flown three times before. What PN did this PH output?
              The SSO-A (Smallsat Express-A) mission was carried out by order of Spaceflight, which organizes cluster launches of small satellites. 64 satellites from 17 countries were sent into orbit. I will not give a list of satellites and cubesats, it will take up a lot of space.
            2. mark2
              mark2 30 December 2020 14: 11
              -1
              64 satellites from 17 countries were sent into orbit. I will not give a list of satellites and cubesats, it will take up a lot of space.
              and which of these is useful? Are you religious? Believer that this trash will give everyone free internet? Don't be a fool. MASK would not become the second richest person if he thought about the orphan and the poor, who dream of a freebie. Clowns. All its blocks are light class rockets. Only for delivery and continuous replenishment of debris in low orbits.
              And yes, not one of its returning stages flew more than 2 times into space. Savings are dubious. Minimum. By the way, even under the Queen, the designers wondered about restarting the first stage. They came to the conclusion that the feasibility is questionable because the delivery of the cargo into orbit also requires fuel for return. And this takes away the mass of the payload in the same percentage as it is required to leave the fuel to return from its total mass.
            3. Dart2027
              Dart2027 30 December 2020 15: 29
              -2
              Quote: mark2
              We came to the conclusion that the feasibility is questionable because the delivery of the cargo into orbit also requires fuel for return. And this takes away the mass of the payload in the same percentage as it is required to leave the fuel to return from its total mass.

              And fans of the USSR do not know about this, the main thing for them is to praise the Mask.
            4. VORON538
              VORON538 31 December 2020 08: 54
              +1
              This is what unites them with liberda
              .Belief in America and "abroad will help." Are they fans of the Soviet Union, supporters of communism, socialism, if they breathlessly look towards the capitalists? Or maybe they are ordinary propagandists sowing hostility towards the Russian state, towards its power structures to their delight curators from behind a puddle? They covered themselves with the flag of the USSR, and that's all, believe their words and not their eyes? And who said that this gang of generals of forum does not sit in one of the propaganda centers abroad, in the same Ukraine ???
            5. Dart2027
              Dart2027 31 December 2020 10: 29
              +2
              Quote: VORON538
              Are they admirers of the Soviet Union, supporters of communism, socialism, if they breathlessly look towards the capitalists?

              Even Machiavelli wrote that when there is a struggle between two parties, the weakest will seek an alliance with the enemy.
            6. VORON538
              VORON538 31 December 2020 16: 17
              -1
              This is true. That is why there were purges under Stalin. True, some villagers on the ground overdid it ... I wonder if you apply Stalin's methods to the new liberals, how long will they whine and how soon will they queue up informers for their colleagues unfortunately?
            7. Dart2027
              Dart2027 31 December 2020 18: 12
              +1
              Quote: VORON538
              how soon they will queue up informers for their colleagues

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    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 December 2020 18: 18
      -4
      And yes, not one of its returning stages flew more than 2 times into space. Two stages have already flown 7 times in a row and removed the payload, the stage pays off from the 3rd launch and landing, 15% -18% of the fuel mass from the starting amount is required for the return of the stage. In the 60s, it was very expensive and difficult, since astronautics was just emerging - there were neither the necessary materials nor control systems, and there was no incentive to do the same now all this is easy to implement, and most importantly, we are waiting for our SV Wing and Amur LNG with reusable first stages.
    4. mark2
      mark2 30 December 2020 20: 13
      -3
      Are you a believer too? Who told you that they flew 7 times? Musk? and who will confirm?
      And I ten times a night, and even the first five in the first hour)!))
      So he already showed his super-duper battery, which was created by the Philips company. I didn't even replace the label with it. just erased a zero in the marking. Has he already launched a hyperloop, and has he built a base on Mars for 5 years? in reality, he barely launched two goners into space, Cannot lift a single rocket of a heavy class. All tanks explode.
      In short, he is an ordinary high-tech swindler. And he wouldn't be a billionaire if he were a real engineer.
      While Musk's fans are jerking their hands under the table at his every "achievement" in Russia, they have built an engine on superconductors for aircraft. Laboratory testing begins. why not delighted?) This is an electric motor for, surprise-surprise, for aircraft, and not for a model of a normal Tesla car on batteries. And the plane will be hybrid .. Here is a breakthrough! And there may be a nuclear reactor as a power source. Who knows. And what Musk is doing was already thought out by ENGINEERS in the 60-70s, not billionaires who think that they are engineers and science, it's so simple - just collect money, buy old shunting engines from old atlases and pass it off as a novelty
      Oh yes. Russia is 100 years behind the normal countries. where bast shoes are up to billionaire Musk!
    5. Vadim237
      Vadim237 31 December 2020 13: 40
      -2
      "So he has already shown his super-duper battery, which was created by Philips. He did not even replace the label with it. He just erased a zero in the marking. He has already launched a hyperloop, and has already built a base on Mars for 5 years? with difficulty launched two goners into space, Can't lift a single rocket of a heavy class. All tanks explode.
      In short, he is an ordinary high-tech swindler. And he would not be a billionaire if he were a real engineer. "Finish raving a super-heavy rocket he has already flown three times and astronauts on the ISS his Dragon 2 has twice delivered no problems, everything is there and everything works as it should.
      Are you a believer too? Who told you that they flew 7 times? Musk? and who will confirm? Here you don’t have to believe here you have to see all the information on missiles and their numbers are freely available and provided to customers - and to deny reality is already schizophrenia. And yes, Russia lagged behind the United States in the use of reusable first stages and reusable ships by 35 years for sure, our Buran never flew with a payload and astronauts from the United States flew Space shuttles Musk launched its first reusable stage in 2015 - our first rocket with a reusable first stage Wing SV will only fly in 2025, as will Amur LNG, if everything goes according to plan.
      And what Musk is doing was already thought out by the ENGINEERS in the 60s and 70s - they didn't think much there, you can think about anything - the final product is important, the finished product and such a working product was able to set up production and make an excellent advertisement Musk and his team, therefore, everything works and flies making a profit and that is why he became a multi-billionaire conceptually new has always attracted and will continue to attract the attention of ordinary people and numerous investors in this regard, SpaceX is ahead of everyone in the space industry.
  • Volder
    Volder 30 December 2020 14: 09
    -1
    Quote: Stroporez
    Are you saying that Musk's reusable rockets are not technological superiority?
    This is a price (marketing) advantage, because launches with a reusable rocket stage are cheaper. This refers to the launches of commercial satellites. When reusability is used for manned flights to the ISS or to the Moon, it will really become a technological superiority.
  • Volder
    Volder 6 January 2021 19: 01
    -2
    Quote: Stroporez
    Are you saying that Musk's reusable rockets are not technological superiority?
    I repeat once again: putting satellites into orbit is a routine. It doesn't matter what, how and how many times they will be displayed. Technological superiority is when flights to the Moon, Mars, interplanetary flights, as well as manned flights to the ISS.
  • Stas157
    Stas157 30 December 2020 10: 44
    +11
    Quote: Volder
    Low living standards of the lion's share of the population was always, throughout the history of the existence of the Russian state. That is, before Putin too.

    Lover to generalize, but you have not heard about the USSR? There was such a country. There, the standard of living, according to the UN, rose to 11th place. What is fantasy for modern Russia.
    1. Volder
      Volder 30 December 2020 13: 58
      -1
      Quote: Stas157
      Have you heard about the USSR? There was such a country. There, the standard of living, according to the UN, rose to 11th place.
      Probably, every third owned a car? In the USSR, no one got rich, everyone lived equally poor.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 30 December 2020 16: 36
        +11
        Quote: Volder
        Probably, every third owned a car?

        And every second motorcycle. The standard of living that the presence of a car is measured? In the states, any homeless person has a car, but this does not make him rich!

        In the USSR, this was one of the excesses, such was the policy of the party. With the world's most developed public transport, it was believed that a personal car was not needed. Therefore, the price of a car was artificially high.

        In principle, now we come to the same thing. Owning a car among young people is gradually becoming out of fashion. Rent, car sharing, blah blah car are getting more and more development.

        Quote: Volder
        In the USSR, no one got rich, everyone lived equally poor.

        If we lived poorly in the USSR, how are we living now?

        Although there are some especially gifted people who believe that the people under Putin are mad with fat, getting African salary! We did not fall so low, not only under the Union, under the tsar.
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 30 December 2020 16: 49
        0
        Quote: Stas157
        And every second motorcycle. The standard of living that the presence of a car is measured? In the states, any homeless person has a car, but this does not make him rich!

        Seriously every second? Yes, now and in addition to cars, a lot has appeared.
        Do not remember how in that very USSR with these launches into space, the Olympics, the army, etc. They did not say anything good, they say, yes, and figs with him, but it would be better to spend this money on people ... I remember.
      3. Stas157
        Stas157 30 December 2020 16: 51
        +9
        Quote: Dart2027
        I remember.

        I do not remember. Maybe it was in the late 80s. Well, there has already begun chaos under the leadership of the marked.
      4. Dart2027
        Dart2027 30 December 2020 20: 12
        0
        Quote: Stas157
        Maybe it was in the late 80s.

        Somewhere in the middle. I was then a child, but already big enough to understand what is being said around. I myself cannot testify to what happened before, but I have heard more than once that it began much earlier.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 30 December 2020 18: 20
    -1
    How did the UN calculate this standard of living?
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 30 December 2020 18: 06
    0
    Russia's biggest problem is lazy local officials - this year, almost a trillion rubles returned to the budget from the funds allocated by the budget for the development of the regions as stupidly spent on nothing.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 30 December 2020 17: 50
    0
    "There are also pragmatists and just healthy people on the list who can see, hear and analyze." By definition, you cannot do this, since all your posts are continuous whining and lamentation, and you do not treat healthy people the same everywhere in everything you did something badly you did not do something badly, a seemingly pure shift of consciousness in the direction of continuous negativity.
  • Stas157
    Stas157 30 December 2020 10: 10
    +13
    For toroll, the commentary is correctly read in reverse.

    Quote: Carte
    He to you gives chance

    Does Putin give a chance? In my opinion only selects! A well-known painful topic - social elevators do not work.

    Quote: Carte
    so hate and despise Russia

    Why do you associate the top with Russia? The tsar and the boyars are terribly far from the people.

    Quote: Carte
    Or a Russian displaced to the top of his head.
    Or a paid scoundrel-traitor.
    Choose.

    You have the wrong choice - a simpleton trap. Because the initial semantic message is deliberately distorted.
  • dragy52rus
    dragy52rus 30 December 2020 09: 19
    -2
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Let me know from what premises did you make such a "profound" conclusion?

    Ukraine has never lived as badly as it did under Putin
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 09: 38
      -1
      Quote: dragy52rus
      Ukraine has never lived as badly as it did under Putin

      And how does Ukraine treat me? Why are you dragging Ukraine to me? On what grounds?
      1. dragy52rus
        dragy52rus 30 December 2020 09: 51
        -4
        I have no idea how Ukraine treats you. and why should Ukraine distinguish you from the background of others in order to somehow treat you. Where did you get that I brought something to you? Or are you writing from several accounts here and get confused?
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 09: 55
          +2
          Quote: dragy52rus
          where did you get the idea that I brought something to you?

          Quote: dragy52rus
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Let me know from what premises did you make such a "profound" conclusion?

          Ukraine has never lived as badly as it did under Putin

          Does your memory fail you?
          1. dragy52rus
            dragy52rus 30 December 2020 10: 32
            -2
            I’m not there, but you seem to be yes. your logical chain is missing the first post I answered.
            yet you are confused about your accounts.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 10: 36
              -1
              Quote: dragy52rus
              I’m not there, but you seem to be yes. your logical chain is missing the first post I answered.

              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Quote: dragy52rus
              do you have it in Ukraine?

              Let me know from what premises did you make such a "profound" conclusion? Or you were simply kicked out at two hours and you are now trying to joke here?

              Are you talking about this?
              Quote: dragy52rus
              yet you are confused about your accounts.

              Justify. Or blah blah blah?
              1. dragy52rus
                dragy52rus 30 December 2020 11: 20
                -3
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Are you talking about this?

                I'm about it
                Quote: Varyag71
                The longer Putin's power, the more anti-records we have.

                it was to this post that I answered, but then you appeared with a question "Let me know from what preconditions did you make such a "profound" conclusion? " I replied "
                Ukraine has never lived as badly as it did under Putin "
                and away we go.
                only a Varangian could ask me a question"And how does Ukraine treat me? Why did you drag Ukraine to me? On what grounds?"
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 30 December 2020 11: 25
                  +2
                  Quote: dragy52rus
                  It was to this post that I answered, but then you appeared with the question "Let me know from what premises you made such a" thoughtful "conclusion? I answered "
                  Ukraine has never lived as badly as it did under Putin, "and away we go.
                  only a Varangian could ask me the question "And how does Ukraine treat me? Why did you drag Ukraine to me? On what basis?"

                  And I, and the Varyag, and Svarog, and not only we, constantly instead of imputed answers to comments, we receive answers like "do you Ukrainians care?" Do you think this is the normal state of affairs?
  • Malyuta
    Malyuta 30 December 2020 11: 47
    +9
    Quote: Varyag71
    The longer Putin's power, the more anti-records we have.

    Top 10 countries in the world GDP (nominal) per capita 2019:

    1 Luxembourg - $ 113
    2 Switzerland - $ 83
    3 Macau - $ 81
    4 Norway - $ 77
    5 Ireland - $ 77
    6 Qatar - $ 69
    7 Iceland - $ 67
    8 USA - 65 112 $
    9 Singapore - $ 63
    10 Denmark - $ 59
    ----------------
    58 Costa Rica 11744 81 17559
    59 Argentina 11627 68 20537
    60 Russia 11327 53 29267
    61 Mauritius 11281 62 23699
    62 Grenada 11042 84 16167
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 December 2020 18: 26
      -2
      And now add to these figures the average salaries the price tags in the housing and communal services stores and add all the other taxes - one figure of GDP for the population does not say anything.
  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 30 December 2020 08: 44
    +2
    Here in shipbuilding everything is much better, they piled up warships, boats and other tugs and got 161 surface ships! And then it was necessary to add to the missile launches, I don’t know, videos with launches presentations! And everything is smooth.
    1. faiver
      faiver 30 December 2020 08: 48
      +4
      And then it was necessary to add to the missile launches, I don’t know, videos with launches presentations!
      - why videos? We also have model airplane circles where children launch homemade cardboard rockets. bully
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 30 December 2020 08: 51
        +4
        Quote: faiver
        We also have aircraft modeling circles

        What, seriously still have it? Great if so, but doubtful!
        1. faiver
          faiver 30 December 2020 08: 53
          +12
          I myself regularly visit the kids at competitions as a judge ... hi
          1. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 30 December 2020 09: 00
            +4
            Cool! Happy New Year and success!
      2. Kart
        Kart 30 December 2020 09: 11
        +3
        Quote: faiver
        We also have model airplane circles where children launch homemade cardboard rockets.

        It's different in the west! They probably make real rockets in their circles.
    2. 7,62x54
      7,62x54 30 December 2020 08: 51
      -1
      It is necessary to add partner launches to missile launches, using RD engines. And then the statistics will probably be better.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 30 December 2020 08: 53
        +9
        Quote: 7,62x54
        It is necessary to add partner launches to missile launches, using RD engines.
        PMSM, for such an improvement in statistics it is necessary to give twice more time than for videos!
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 30 December 2020 08: 51
      +3
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      I should have added to the missile launches, I don’t know, videos with launches presentations!

      And if you count the New Year's fireworks, how will it turn out! good
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 30 December 2020 08: 54
        +3
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        And if you count the New Year's fireworks, how will it turn out!

        Well, to include China in the statistics, this is too much. )))
      2. 7,62x54
        7,62x54 30 December 2020 08: 55
        +2
        well, then the whole country will pile on to help, we will shoot at NG in full
  • Commissar77
    Commissar77 30 December 2020 08: 45
    -2


    https://youtu.be/RM55jzJ5NfQ

    Dmitry Rogozin, General Director of the State Corporation Roscosmos, wishes you a Happy New Year!

    Brings everything down on Covid. And promises, promises, promises .......
    1. Commissar77
      Commissar77 30 December 2020 08: 58
      +2
      Somewhere in this photo there may be a comrade Slipped, who here on the forum drowns for Roskosmos. He will now explain to us that everything is fine, beautiful marquise, everything is fine. Rogozin, of course, has some kind of ryak, not Roscosmos.
      1. Kart
        Kart 30 December 2020 09: 13
        -2
        It might be worth somewhere.
        But to believe him, who works there, of course, is by no means impossible.
        We must trust the narrow-minded skakuas experts from the Internet. It's so convenient, the usual whining about everything is gone.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 30 December 2020 09: 21
      +4
      I wonder how covid got in the way of launching in the US and China.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 30 December 2020 09: 36
        0
        Quote: 210ox
        I wonder how covid got in the way of launching in the US and China.

        Only bad dancers always get in the way ..
      2. Blackmokona
        Blackmokona 30 December 2020 10: 11
        +1
        2019 year.
        China 34
        Россия 22
        USA 21

        As you can see, a terrible disruption of plans.
        The United States has already doubled the number of coronavirus launches.
        ... In total, in 2020, 114 space launches were made in the world, of which Russia carried out only 17. At the same time, the United States sent ships into space 44 times, and China - 39.
        1. slipped
          slipped 30 December 2020 11: 02
          0
          Quote: BlackMokona
          2019 year.
          China 34
          Россия 22
          USA 21

          As you can see, a terrible disruption of plans.
          The United States has already doubled the number of coronavirus launches.
          ... In total, in 2020, 114 space launches were made in the world, of which Russia carried out only 17. At the same time, the United States sent ships into space 44 times, and China - 39.


          And who is talking to you and where about the coronavirus? Only 17 successful launches in Russia - the result of failure to deliver spacecraft of the OneWeb series on time - 8 launches have been postponed, they will begin in February, the ExoMars mission is postponed due to the unavailability of ESA to 2022.

          A total of five Russian civilian launches have been postponed to 2021:

          Progress MS-16 - for February - revision of the delivered cargo
          Arktika-M No. 1 - for February - spacecraft unavailability, tests
          Glavkosmos-1 - for March - set of launch customers
          MLM "Science" - for April-July - tests
          1. Blackmokona
            Blackmokona 30 December 2020 11: 24
            +1
            The United States also has a lot to be postponed from the coronavirus. For example, two Falcon-Heavy launches and much more. Only the result is still on the face.
            1. slipped
              slipped 30 December 2020 12: 27
              -1
              Quote: BlackMokona
              The United States also has a lot to be postponed from the coronavirus. For example, two Falcon-Heavy launches and much more. Only the result is still on the face.


              Are we in a hurry somewhere? laughing We are carrying out a planned and successful work on the creation and launch of spacecraft. Traditionally, our year starts with launches in February. Just at least three launches that have been postponed are expected.
              1. Blackmokona
                Blackmokona 30 December 2020 13: 14
                +1
                Well, you can take your time, and gradually move on to a lazy one start-up per year. It is extremely economical for the budget and forces. wassat
                1. slipped
                  slipped 30 December 2020 14: 15
                  0
                  It is possible, but not profitable. laughing The number of launches is now sufficient to support the current spacecraft constellations. The number of launches will increase as new ones are deployed.
                  1. Blackmokona
                    Blackmokona 30 December 2020 14: 41
                    -1
                    But this is a direct lie. wassat
                    Otherwise, why did the plans include much more of their national launches for this year? wassat
                    1. slipped
                      slipped 30 December 2020 22: 29
                      0
                      Quote: BlackMokona
                      But this is a direct lie. wassat
                      Otherwise, why did the plans include much more of their national launches for this year? wassat


                      I have already announced here which civilian launches were postponed to 2021:

                      TGK "Progress" MS-16, "OneWeb", "Arktika-M" No. 1, MLM "Science".

                      ERS satellites "Obzor-R" and "Resurs-P" No. 4 were postponed to 2021 back in 2019.

                      Some of the military launches were postponed by the decision of the Ministry of Defense, for a reason that was not announced by them, they also include new Glonass satellites, which are launched as needed.
  • faiver
    faiver 30 December 2020 08: 45
    -2
    What launches, if our Roscosmos is engaged in song contests ...
  • 7,62x54
    7,62x54 30 December 2020 08: 49
    +2
    and if there were no known circumstances, then there would be 17 launches not 18.
    1. Login_Off
      Login_Off 30 December 2020 08: 56
      0
      Exactly, this is precisely what prevented us from breaking into the leaders.
  • ALARI
    ALARI 30 December 2020 09: 00
    +11
    Laughing further at the charlatan Musk.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 30 December 2020 09: 00
    +3
    This is not an anti-record, this is just the beginning. Look at the country's budget, there is a real reduction in space. Then either our managers will begin to stir and engage in commercial launches, or we will bury this industry
    1. Login_Off
      Login_Off 30 December 2020 09: 08
      -2
      The budget needs to be proven, goals and indicators.
      And according to Rogozin, there are only goals, there are no indicators, every project is a failure.
    2. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 30 December 2020 09: 12
      -2
      If the number of launches has decreased since 14, then by 27 I can't even imagine how many there will be.
    3. Kart
      Kart 30 December 2020 09: 14
      -3
      You will definitely bury it.
      Therefore, other people run the industry. Not the ones who cry on the internet.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 30 December 2020 09: 16
        +5
        Quote: Carte
        You will definitely bury it.
        Therefore, other people run the industry. Not the ones who cry on the internet.

        And how they manage can be seen from anti-records, this is a kind fact
        1. Kart
          Kart 30 December 2020 09: 20
          -1
          These records are anti-records only in the minds of propagandists from the Internet.
          When the USA for 7 years could not send any of the people into space - all of yours were silent, this is normal.
          Well, yes, "they have been working all this time," you must understand that, everything is not so fast.
          And now, when not a single competence has been lost in Russia, only the volumes are not as high as you want - a polyphonic choir sings about everything has disappeared.
          Kind.
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 30 December 2020 09: 46
            +4
            Quote: Carte
            These records are anti-records only in the minds of propagandists from the Internet.

            Let's specifically:
            What about the process of launching the Federation or at what stage do we have launches of the Angara? We also need to list how much we all carry and transfer
            Quote: Carte
            When the USA for 7 years could not send any of the people into space - all of yours were silent, this is normal.

            Now let’s be specific, what was done with the money received from the Americans in 7 years? Oops ............. anti-record!
            Quote: Carte
            And now that not a single competence has been lost in Russia,

            An example with Ukraine is not enough? To lose competence, to spit. We stopped the production of missiles once and the fact that it will start is no longer a fact!
            1. mark2
              mark2 30 December 2020 12: 02
              -3
              What about the process of launching the Federation or at what stage do we have launches of the Angara? We also need to list how much we all carry and transfer

              And you dear do not distort. New rockets are the concern of Roscosmos and the state. Maybe you know who to save on or what?

              Now let’s be specific, what was done with the money received from the Americans in 7 years? Oops ............. anti-record

              Well, tell us what was done. The answer is nothing, says that you do not know what was done. And yes, I advise you to calculate how much money was received from the sales of engines and launches of Americans and add up the cost of these launches including the cost of the rocket itself. I think you will be very surprised.

              An example with Ukraine is not enough? To lose competence, to spit. We stopped the production of missiles once and the fact that it will start is no longer a fact!

              And what have our smaller brothers to do with it? They did not try to preserve their competencies. And Russia, too, went through the same and did not lose. But the Yankees did not pass, now they are extending their blowjobs until the middle of this century.
              And yes, Musk did not make a technological breakthrough, if cho. The concept of a multistage rocket of the 20th century has been fully implemented. It is strange that he decided to return the first stage with his engines. It's easier to lower with a parachute, at least at those altitudes where it will work. Probably seen enough American kin.
              1. APASUS
                APASUS 30 December 2020 12: 33
                +2
                Quote: mark2
                And you dear do not distort. New rockets are the concern of Roscosmos and the state. Maybe you know who to save on or what?

                Why save? Engage in commercial launches and you will still be in profit. And here it is not so simple, the race is won by the one who invests in new technologies, and we are marking time.
                Quote: mark2
                Well, tell us what was done. The answer is nothing, says that you do not know what was done. And yes, I advise you to calculate how much money was received from the sales of engines and launches of Americans and add up the cost of these launches including the cost of the rocket itself. I think you will be very surprised.

                Usually, success is reported in the media and you don't even need to look. And we all suck on Rogozin's trampoline. Not new launches, missiles, but what Rogozin said to Mask. Success is on the face!
                Quote: mark2
                And what have our smaller brothers to do with it? They did not try to preserve their competencies.

                We tried and still tried, but once stopping the conveyor for assembling missiles, you can no longer start it. Competence is expensive, it is hard everyday work
                Quote: mark2
                It is strange that he decided to return the first stage with his engines. It's easier to lower with a parachute, at least at those altitudes where it will work. Probably seen enough American kin.

                The problem is not who lowered the step, but the fact that he did it first, and Rogozin did NOT! Anything to discuss here.
                1. mark2
                  mark2 30 December 2020 12: 50
                  -4
                  Why save? Engage in commercial launches and you will still be in profit. And here it is not so simple, the race is won by the one who invests in new technologies, and we are marking time.

                  You are confusing something. Roskosmos is not a commercial organization and Rogozin is not its general. Roscosmos is a state corporation. Lives fully and fully serves only the interests of the Russian Federation. Rogozin is not looking for clients. I have already said about Musk's new technologies. They are not there. In addition to touch monitors, which, in principle, does not change the flight technology in any way.

                  About the attempts of the Sumerians without comment. The result is obvious.

                  Well, the first ... the first who said about it. But as I understand it, either the scientific world has not yet realized this. Or it was found inappropriate. Besides the mask, China does not even think about it. They made it to the moon and made their way to the outdated royal technology.
                  The return of steps in the mask will be obtained for light rockets. Harder than it is, they simply will not return, we'll see. But rather we hardly even see. He doesn’t try.
                  1. APASUS
                    APASUS 30 December 2020 13: 05
                    +1
                    Quote: mark2
                    You are confusing something. Roscosmos is not a commercial organization and Rogozin is not its general. Roscosmos is a state corporation. Lives fully and fully serves only the interests of the Russian Federation.

                    What are you sculpting my dear, we have another Roskosmos, the one that launched this year around 40 commercial satellites?
                    Quote: mark2
                    Rogozin is not looking for clients

                    It sucks that he's not looking. His salary should be a percentage of the start! Let him earn at least billions, but there are no start-ups and no salary!
                    Quote: mark2
                    Well, yes, the first ... the first who said about it.

                    Gagarin either flew first or not! Everything else is convention.
                    1. mark2
                      mark2 30 December 2020 13: 43
                      -3
                      What are you sculpting my dear, we have another Roskosmos, the one that launched this year around 40 commercial satellites?

                      You are comparing the incomparable. I repeat again. Roscosmos works in the interests of the Russian Federation. It can launch commerce, but why? Any trash and Musk will deliver. He loves to launch garbage and his old stuff into space. Why do you personally need Roscosmos to launch commerce? Just to put everyone who works in Roscosmos on self-sufficiency? Have already passed. Until now, no one can translate optimizers, like cockroaches. We know how to run and okay.
                      I just saw what all the countries of the world launched in a year. So there are only 4 manned flights 2 we have 2 Americans have one flight to the moon from the Chinese. The rest is rubbish, which has to be constantly replenished, because without it the connection will not work.
                      1. APASUS
                        APASUS 30 December 2020 14: 01
                        +2
                        Quote: mark2
                        You are comparing the incomparable.

                        This is just according to the profile, it is not proposed to release pans
                        Quote: mark2
                        Roscosmos works in the interests of the Russian Federation. It can launch commerce, but why?

                        More than a strange question: workers' salaries, government taxes, company development and renovation, partly money for R&D
                        Quote: mark2
                        Any trash and Musk will deliver.

                        In order to raise garbage into space, you need to have serious knowledge and there are not so many countries in the world with such a school, why close such a niche. What do we gain from self-isolation?
                        Quote: mark2
                        Why do you personally need Roscosmos to launch commerce?

                        I am happy for the state, for the people, for the development of industry.
                        Quote: mark2
                        Just to put everyone who works in Roscosmos on self-sufficiency? Have already passed. Until now, no one can translate optimizers, like cockroaches. We know how to run and okay.

                        Why immediately self-sufficiency? Why shouldn't they make money when they can?
                        Just as an example:
                        The PLA provides services to the population of the country and makes money on this, to the budget of the Chinese Ministry of Defense. And the state pays extra for the missing share from the country's budget. Different years in different ways, but the surcharge is within 20%. Why should Roscosmos be a parasite?
                      2. mark2
                        mark2 30 December 2020 14: 51
                        -1
                        More than a strange question: workers' salaries, government taxes, company development and renovation, partly money for R&D

                        And you still do not catch up, right? Well, differently. I can build and launch rockets. The state is my only customer. And he's the owner. Then you come and offer me to run your garbage. I say: I work for the Russian Federation, the owner is with him and negotiate. You go to the Ministry of Industry, and he decides whether there is a benefit in this or not. Earning from this minuscule for the state Benefits, except reputation too. Everybody already knows that Russia launches spaceships.
                        I feel that the billionaire Musk will now come as an example, who made everything from commercial launches.
                      3. APASUS
                        APASUS 30 December 2020 15: 00
                        +1
                        Quote: mark2
                        And you still do not catch up, right? Well, differently. I can build and launch rockets. The state is my only customer. And he's the owner. Then you come and offer me to run your garbage. I say: I work for the Russian Federation, the owner is with him and negotiate. You go to the Ministry of Industry, and he decides whether there is a benefit in this or not. Earning from this minuscule for the state Benefits, except reputation too. Everybody already knows that Russia launches spaceships.

                        I really didn't understand what you wanted to say by that! The same spaceport should be kept in working order every day, not on the day of launch. The rocket manufacturer should be busy, why should he refuse a commercial launch?
                        Quote: mark2
                        I feel that the billionaire Musk will now come as an example, who made everything from commercial launches.

                        Musk is a charlatan, I don't like this guy, they fanned him a genius
                      4. mark2
                        mark2 30 December 2020 15: 11
                        0
                        I wanted to say that if state property goes to commerce, it will most likely die. Therefore, Roskosmos must be a state corporation and the state decides what and where to launch.
                        And at the expense of spaceports .. they are the same state and the state itself pays for their maintenance and rent. You understand, maybe from the outside it is not noticeable, but Russia is a closed corporation. Capital between the structures, which it owns, move only within them. It's not difficult to integrate there, if at all possible. Only if there are some connections. There is no place for businessmen.
    4. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 30 December 2020 10: 53
      +3
      Quote: Carte
      When the USA for 7 years could not send any of the people into space - all of yours were silent, this is normal.

      They did not keep silent, but warned that while we were working as cabbies, they would come forward.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 30 December 2020 18: 31
    -2
    Reducing but allocating "Funds for the creation and launch of the Telescope" Spectrum-UF "(" World Space Observatory - Ultraviolet ") have been allocated, reports RIA Novosti the statement of the scientific director of the Institute of Space Research (IKI) of the Russian Academy of Sciences (RAS) Lev Zeleny.

    According to him, the allocation of annual funding for scientific space in the amount of 14-15 billion rubles - "this is actually reduced money, this is the restoration of the budget", which will be enough for basic research of the Moon, Venus and work on Spectr-UF.

    “In particular, Spectr-UV is a very good experiment, Russian Hubble. Now we will be able to launch it as planned, in 2025, ”Zeleny said.

    In February 2019, Mikhail Sachkov, Deputy Scientific Leader of the Spectr-UF project, Deputy Director of the Institute of Astronomy of the Russian Academy of Sciences, said that Roskosmos intends to cut funding for the Spektr-UF space telescope project by three times in 2019, and ten times more, which will actually stop work on the creation of the telescope.

    In June 2018, Mikhail Khailov, Deputy General Director of Roskosmos for Automatic Space Complexes and Systems, announced that Spektr-UF would be launched on the Angara-A5 rocket from the Vostochny cosmodrome in 2024.

    According to the Federal Space Program for 2016-2025, the launch of Spectra-UF is scheduled for 2024. The space observatory is designed for imaging and spectroscopy in the ultraviolet region of the electromagnetic spectrum. The closest analogue of Spectra-UV is the American Hubble. "
  • steelmaker
    steelmaker 30 December 2020 09: 02
    0
    Another thing worries me. For 60 years, new designers and engineers have entered the space industry. New technologies have appeared. And without missile launches, how can we master these technologies? Even meteorological satellites are in short supply.
    "Russian meteorological satellites have not been in space for ten years. All this time, our forecasters were forced to use rather incomplete information that was provided by the international constellation of meteorological satellites launched by the United States, the European Union, India and China." Https: //www.vesti. ru / article / 2268105
    "To date, the Russian constellation of satellites for meteorological and natural resource purposes includes eight spacecraft: geostationary satellites" Electro-L "No. 1," Electro-L "No. 2 and six polar-orbiting satellites -" Meteor-M "No. 1, "Meteor-M" No. 2, "Resurs-P" No. 1, "Resurs-P" No. 2, "Resurs-P" No. 3 and "Kanopus-V". .Http: //www.meteorf.ru / product / radars / "
    But this is not enough. In general, we are losing manned space exploration. I am glad that we have no equal in military space. And with our economy and government, is it even better?
    1. Login_Off
      Login_Off 30 December 2020 09: 10
      -3
      The information on military cosmonautics is classified, so we cannot even compare the performance indicators.
      Is that why it seems to us that everything is fine in military space?
    2. Kart
      Kart 30 December 2020 09: 16
      -3
      Quote: steel maker
      “There have been no Russian meteorological satellites in space for ten years.

      And right there:
      Quote: steel maker
      "Today, the Russian constellation of satellites for meteorological and natural resource purposes includes eight spacecraft:

      When you lie about the mode, read the copied text carefully.
      1. steelmaker
        steelmaker 30 December 2020 09: 27
        0
        "Fish for fishlessness and cancer" Continue to rejoice further.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 December 2020 18: 32
      -2
      Moscow. December 29th. INTERFAX - The Russian Space Systems (RKS) holding has improved the photographic equipment for Russian meteorological satellites, which will make it possible to accurately determine the temperatures of clouds and the earth's surface, the holding's press service said on Tuesday.

      "In 2020, flight tests of the Electro-L spacecraft No. 3, equipped with modified imaging equipment, confirmed the high efficiency of the new radiation cooling system for infrared photodetectors. New solutions ensured stable cooling of photodetectors to temperatures of 80-82 K, which makes it possible images ", - reported in RKS.

      They noted that these developments are planned to be used in the manufacture of instruments for the next satellites of the Electro-L and Arktika-M series.

      "On the" Electro-L "No. 3 spacecraft, it was possible to achieve high radiometric characteristics of the 10th infrared channel, without which it is impossible to determine the temperature of the Earth in" transparency windows "- spectral regions where radiation passes through the atmosphere with relatively little attenuation," he noted Yuri Gektin, chief designer of the RCS direction, quoted by the holding's press service.

      According to him, this will make it possible to correct the influence of the atmosphere and determine the temperatures of clouds, the earth's surface and water areas with high accuracy.

      "The RKS specialists have also worked on the modernization of the imaging equipment of the following devices of the Canopus series - an additional channel has been added, with the help of which the efficiency of decoding infrared images will be increased. Thanks to the additional spectral channel, visual perception and analysis of images will be simplified. and for researching northern ice sheets and detecting cracks in ice fields, which is especially important when navigating ships along the northern sea route. The improved instruments will be able to survey at dusk and in polar night conditions without losing quality, "the holding said.

      The Kanopus-V space complex is designed to obtain panchromatic and multispectral images of the Earth's surface in order to provide the subdivisions of the Roscosmos state corporation, EMERCOM of Russia, the Ministry of Natural Resources, the Russian Academy of Sciences, as well as other departments and commercial consumers with operational information.
  • U-58
    U-58 30 December 2020 09: 09
    +8
    Everything is correct. No loads, no starts.
    The main headache is Comrade. Elon Musk.
    He put not only Roscosmos on starvation rations, but also the French.
    Also, his successes "touch the edges" of the Japanese and Chinese.
    However, the last comrades are completely self-sufficient and develop space for their own internal purposes.
    So in the market of launch services, you need to keep decent (from the word a little) prices and maintain quality ...
    And the records .... Well, let's develop our own. There would be funding. Then the Moon and Mars and what a Snickers thread. And Fedya ... oh, Orel, Buran, Volcano and Yauza (Angara, Yenisei, Amur, Klyazma. LimpOpo) and Sunkar Zenitovich Phoenix Soyuz-oglu ibn Vostok Molniason.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 30 December 2020 11: 52
      +16
      Quote: U-58
      Elon Musk.
      He put on starvation rations not only Roscosmos

      Nobody thwarted his plans. They were known in advance. But, instead of doing something real, flocks of feuilleton plan about the Mask wrote and jokes about the trampoline were released.
  • Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 30 December 2020 09: 59
    +2
    It's sad. And how did some "known circumstances" prevent only us? belay And it was reflected in the number of our launches, but did not interfere with others .... hmm ... Maybe this is a well-known circumstance - Rogozin ?! Only we have it am
  • Dimon-SPG
    Dimon-SPG 30 December 2020 10: 37
    +2
    But Ragozin's income set new records and successfully surpassed those in 2019. We have something else to be proud of, comrades!
  • Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 30 December 2020 10: 42
    +7
    Quote: mark1
    It's too early to talk about the trend.

    It is when you understand the topic only by the headlines of our newspapers, then tendencies will not be visible to ashes.

    In this decade, not only the number of launches failed, but the commercial market completely failed.
    But launches by launches, but more importantly whose satellites (spacecraft) are put into orbit.
    The share of launched Russian satellites in 2010 was 15%
    By 2020, this share is already 1,7%

    For a pure comparison of SpaceX (not even with the US) with Roscosmos.

    Launches
    SpaceX - 26 (heavy Falcon9, 300 tons of payload delivered per year, world record by a huge margin)
    Roscosmos - 17 (medium Unions)

    Number of launched own satellites
    SpaceX - 840
    Roskosmos - 16
    1. slipped
      slipped 30 December 2020 10: 55
      -2
      Quote: Engineer Schukin
      Number of launched own satellites
      SpaceX - 840
      Roskosmos - 16


      SpaceX launches mainly serial MCVs of the same type of the same group - Starlink.

      Roskosmos has completed the replenishment of its groupings and is launching spacecraft for various purposes.

      Don't you understand this? laughing

      When new groupings are created under the Sphere program, where some of the spacecraft are similar to Starlink, the number of spacecraft in Russia will increase.
  • Martian
    Martian 30 December 2020 11: 01
    +1
    Rogozin began to lie and carry a blizzard very often .... It's time to send him to work selling shawarma in a stall. Let there be few starts, but how much money did you saw? More than before?
  • Brancodd
    Brancodd 30 December 2020 11: 11
    +1
    Thus, for the first time in history, an anti-record was set for the number of space launches.

    The statement is not true.
    2015 - 17 launches
    2016 - 15 launches
    2017 - 17 launches
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 30 December 2020 12: 08
      +1
      No, you have the wrong column. The 17 launches of 2020 include ArianeSpace launches. You take a column without ArianSpace.

      In 2016 with ArianSpace - 19 launches and 18 successful ones.
      In 2020, WITHOUT ArianSpace - 13 (2 from Kuru and 1 from Vostochny and 1 from Baikonur - where ArianSpace was the launch operator and contractor). Or the same 15 launches, if you take it without Kuru.
      1. Brancodd
        Brancodd 30 December 2020 12: 17
        -2
        No, you have the wrong column. The 17 launches of 2020 include ArianeSpace launches. You take a column without ArianSpace.

        This data is from the official website of Roscosmos. Launches with Kuru began in 2017 and are included in the statistics.
        Sometimes you need to look at the world not through the prism of Wikipedia and live by the principle that if reality does not correspond to Wikipedia, then so much the worse for reality.
        1. donavi49
          donavi49 30 December 2020 12: 58
          +1
          But Wikipedia is right wink .

          We take and compare
          https://www.roscosmos.ru/launch/2016/
          и
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_in_spaceflight

          Differences
          On March 24, the launch of the Union with the military satellite Kosmos-2515 is on Viki, but not on Roskosmos.

          The developers also reported:
          Satellite "Kosmos-2515" with components of ORPP "Tekhnologiya" has been successfully launched into the calculated orbit
          Satellite "Kosmos-2515" with components of ORPP "Tekhnologiya" was successfully launched into the calculated orbit on March 24 from the Plesetsk cosmodrome The Kosmos 2515 spacecraft was successfully launched into orbit. The satellite body consists of high-tech elements manufactured by the ORPP Tekhnologiya named after AG Romashina of RT-Khimkompozit Holding (part of the State Corporation Rostec).

          The second loss is Sentinel-1B from Kuru, for Arianespace.
          There is a video on the official ESA channel


          And another loss in May Arianspace - Galileo FOC 10 and Galileo FOC 11, broadcast


          And one more missing June Plesetsk, GeoIK satellite on Rokot.
          The satellite launched into the target orbit in the interests of the RF Ministry of Defense on the Rokot carrier rocket was adopted at the estimated time for control of ground assets of the Titov Main Testing Space Center, RIA Novosti was told in the press service and information department of the RF Ministry of Defense.
          "A stable telemetric connection has been established and maintained with the spacecraft. The onboard systems of the spacecraft are functioning normally," the press service said.
          https://www.n2yo.com/satellite/?s=41579



          As a result, there were 19 launches according to the same rules as this year 17 (with Arian) laughing
          1. slipped
            slipped 30 December 2020 22: 33
            0
            Quote: donavi49
            As a result, there were 19 launches according to the same rules as this year 17 (with Arian) laughing


            Yes, I already noticed that some launches are missing on the Roscosmos website. The reason is unknown. I will ask online.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 30 December 2020 11: 16
    -1
    "known difficult circumstances".

    An official, he is an official, to cast a shadow over the fence, this is their diagnosis.
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 30 December 2020 11: 18
    0
    We launched as many as necessary. It's not about quantity, but quality)))
  • HMR333
    HMR333 30 December 2020 11: 29
    -3
    Well, yes, there is nothing smarter than that? USA fly only thanks to Russian engines! And the pomnitsa shit in Russian toilets because their own after the first infestation broke))
    1. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 30 December 2020 13: 16
      -2
      The lion's share of launches on Falcon-9, which flies on American engines.
      Well, the toilet breaks down Russian. Because from the very beginning, only Russian ones were installed on the ISS, and only Russia served them.
      Most recently, only the American ones were brought, it seems they have not broken down even once.
  • Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 30 December 2020 11: 41
    -3
    Quote: slipped
    Quote: Engineer Schukin
    Number of launched own satellites
    SpaceX - 840
    Roskosmos - 16


    SpaceX launches mainly serial MCVs of the same type of the same group - Starlink.

    Roskosmos has completed the replenishment of its groupings and is launching spacecraft for various purposes.

    Don't you understand this? laughing

    When new groupings are created under the Sphere program, where some of the spacecraft are similar to Starlink, the number of spacecraft in Russia will increase.

    And you understand that out of 16 Russian, some will generally be cubsats. I hope there is no need to explain the difference between the "Russian" cube-sat and the Starlink apparatus? :)

    Sphere, you say? Yeah, I heard from Putin in the 18th year.
    So there, the program has already been formed and funding has been allocated, and not as usual? And then Borisov declares that the money was not allocated, because there is not even a program.
    1. slipped
      slipped 30 December 2020 13: 02
      +1
      Quote: Engineer Schukin
      And you understand that out of 16 Russian, some will generally be cubsats. I hope there is no need to explain the difference between the "Russian" cube-sat and the Starlink apparatus? :)


      Have you collapsed from oak? laughing Cubsats, that is, devices of the 1U, 3U and 6U classes, including domestic ones, are launched here as a passing load, where heavier devices are the main ones.

      The analogue of Starlink we now have is the commercial OneWeb devices.

      Only in 2021 is the launch of a special commercial cluster Glavkosmos-1 expected, where there will be only one small spacecraft, both new domestic and many foreign ones.

      Quote: Engineer Schukin
      Sphere, you say? Yeah, I heard from Putin in the 18th year.
      So there, the program has already been formed and funding has been allocated, and not as usual? And then Borisov declares that the money was not allocated, because there is not even a program.


      Borisov has already stated the opposite. laughing
  • Newven
    Newven 30 December 2020 11: 56
    -2
    And VO will have its own record! At the end of the year, there is a series of articles where everything is terribly shitty and to which, like flies, all "lovers and friends of Russia" flock, where they intensively lay eggs. So, in January there will be another replenishment of the highest "patriotic" composition. Why torture the children of the regime? I suggest that all those who have declared themselves a fighter against the "Putin" regime and backward Russia, immediately assign the title of Marshal, so that they do not waste energy and turn a resource that, as it were, patriotic, into a bunch of anti-Russian propagandists! And marshals, immediately make outside observers, without the right to lay their eggs.
  • Brancodd
    Brancodd 30 December 2020 12: 07
    -2
    Quote: NewOven
    I suggest that all those who have declared themselves fighters against the "Putin" regime and backward Russia, immediately assign the rank of marshal so that they do not waste energy and turn a resource, which, as it were, patriotic, into a gathering of anti-Russian propagandists!

    Yes, they have a meeting place on this site ...
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 30 December 2020 12: 11
    +3
    This year there was a revolution in ultralight space
    rockets. In December, the privately-owned Astra launched its first rocket into space.
    The rocket was prepared for launch by a team of only five people in
    for four days.
    They are going to charge 1 million dollars from the customer for launching 150 kg of cargo.
    into low orbit.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 30 December 2020 13: 02
      +4
      And Peter Beck did a great job, although the American site was not introduced because of Covid.
    2. Avior
      Avior 30 December 2020 23: 04
      0
      Firefly on the verge of launch, window until the end of January
  • Dizel200
    Dizel200 30 December 2020 12: 40
    0
    Soon the Russian trampoline will start working)))))
  • Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 30 December 2020 15: 00
    +3
    Quote: slipped
    Are we in a hurry somewhere?

    It is very wonderful that this motto was given to us by a Roscosmos employee.
    You can see how everything is saturated with this :)

    The Soviet backlog is still there, the state gives budgets and covers debts, what else is needed for the Russian space industry.
    1. slipped
      slipped 31 December 2020 17: 14
      0
      Quote: Engineer Schukin
      Quote: slipped
      Are we in a hurry somewhere?

      It is very wonderful that this motto was given to us by a Roscosmos employee.


      You are wrong. I am not an employee of Roscosmos.
  • Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 30 December 2020 15: 12
    0
    Quote: slipped
    Have you collapsed from an oak tree? Cubsats, that is, devices of the 1U, 3U and 6U classes, including domestic ones, are launched here as a passing load, where heavier devices are the main ones.

    The analogue of Starlink we now have is the commercial OneWeb devices.

    Only in 2021 is the launch of a special commercial cluster Glavkosmos-1 expected, where there will be only one small spacecraft, both new domestic and many foreign ones.

    And what did I say that it does not start?

    I am just highlighting for you that these cubsats are included in these 16 Russian versus 840 Starlinks and in general 1088 USA.

    And in quotes, I took them for a quasi-domestic origin, where the Russian only assembly of imported components.

    And what does Borisov say, a week later he gave a great interview, where he described the nonprofenionalism of Roscosmos, and how you always ask for money, but you cannot even compose programs clearly, because at the end of the year you have unpaid funds all the time. Medvedev and Rogozin blamed this for the same when they were prime minister.
    1. slipped
      slipped 30 December 2020 22: 40
      0
      Quote: Engineer Schukin
      I am just highlighting for you that these cubsats are included in these 16 Russian versus 840 Starlinks and in general 1088 USA.


      So we are not currently deploying any large groupings. We have 12 vehicles in the Messenger grouping, and 24 vehicles in the Glonass grouping.

      We do not have constellations today requiring hundreds of satellites.

      This is all just planned under the Sphere program, which is now being prepared.

      Quote: Engineer Schukin
      And what does Borisov say, a week later he gave a great interview, where he described the nonprofenionalism of Roscosmos, and how you always ask for money, but you cannot even compose programs clearly, because at the end of the year you have unpaid funds all the time. Medvedev and Rogozin blamed this for the same when they were prime minister.


      Well, they are officials a lot that they can blurt out in the media lol

      Here is Borisov's last interview:

      [media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = v3kUAOl1jvk]
  • fa2998
    fa2998 30 December 2020 16: 43
    +1
    Quote: slipped
    Not lightly. This is a completely different rocket for a long time.

    It's like a VAZ 2103, a completely different car than a 2101. And so up to seven is the modernization of Fiat.
    Roscosmos, having a reliable royal "seven", thought the monopolists of space launches did not move their horns. Now Musk with his returned missiles has brought down prices, and they blame certain "circumstances" lol hi hi
    All a Happy! drinks
    1. slipped
      slipped 30 December 2020 22: 55
      0
      Quote: fa2998
      It's like a VAZ 2103, a completely different car than a 2101. And so up to seven is the modernization of Fiat.


      Invalid comparison. If you stick to your terminology, then in 2101:

      "Soyuz-2.1a" - they changed the engine from a carburetor to an injection one and a powerful one by 20% and changed the interior and headlights to modern ones. Modernized body assembly technologies.

      "Soyuz-2.1b" - in addition to the above, the entire chassis was replaced with a more reliable one. The engine power was increased even more.

      "Soyuz-2.1v" - made two-seater, changing once again the chassis and body. laughing

      In six years we will replace it with X-ray. laughing

      Quote: fa2998
      Now Musk has brought down prices with his returned missiles - and they blame certain "circumstances"


      Soyuz-2 successfully flies, including with commercial orders.
  • Catholic
    Catholic 30 December 2020 16: 57
    +15
    In terms of the number of space launches in 2020, the Russian Federation lost to both the USA and China

    Optimization in action ...
  • Catholic
    Catholic 30 December 2020 16: 58
    +11
    Russia has set a new anti-record

    Not a new one, but another ... And how many more of these anti-records will we have with this bourgeois system
  • Catholic
    Catholic 30 December 2020 17: 00
    +15
    The reason for this fall is not only the coronavirus pandemic

    Again coronavirus ... What a good excuse for "successful managers"
  • Catholic
    Catholic 30 December 2020 17: 01
    +12
    The head of Roscosmos, Dmitry Rogozin, also spoke on this topic, explaining that the reason for the two times smaller space launches than planned was "known difficult circumstances."

    Maybe the reason is not in "known difficult circumstances", but in Rogozin?
  • Filxnumx
    Filxnumx 30 December 2020 21: 19
    -1
    In total, 33 space launches were planned for the outgoing year

    And in Tan and China, what is the percentage of social competition plans being fulfilled? And the amount of funding is not to be forgotten either.
  • Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 31 December 2020 06: 52
    -1
    Quote: slipped
    This is all just planned under the Sphere program, which is now being prepared.

    This is yes, cho-cho, but in words, RC is the best at planning.
    So where is the Sphere program, where is the roadmap? At least you already have a preliminary project? Financing?
    1. slipped
      slipped 31 December 2020 17: 36
      +1
      Quote: Engineer Schukin
      Quote: slipped
      This is all just planned under the Sphere program, which is now being prepared.

      This is yes, cho-cho, but in words, RC is the best at planning.
      So where is the Sphere program, where is the roadmap? At least you already have a preliminary project? Financing?


      The appearance of the program was determined back in April. What satellites will be created and used is also known. All this has already been voiced earlier. The "Sphere" will include satellite constellations:

      Yamal - communication
      "Express" - communication
      "Express-RV" - communication
      "Skif" - communication (Arctic Internet)
      "Marathon" - IoT / M2M - Internet of Things
      "Smotr" - remote sensing - monitoring
      "Berkut-O" - remote sensing - overview
      "Berkut-VD" - ERS - highly detailed overview
      "Berkut-X" - ERS - radar
      "Berkut-XLP" - ERS - radar

      The financing issue is decided by the government.
  • Andre___86
    Andre___86 1 January 2021 01: 06
    -2
    Are the trampolines over ????
  • Evgeny Seleznev
    Evgeny Seleznev 1 January 2021 23: 06
    0
    Effective management from the immortal.