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The country that got scared. The pernicious landmarks of "brotherly" Montenegro

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The country that got scared. The pernicious landmarks of "brotherly" Montenegro
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West drift


For Montenegro, joining NATO in 2017, which can hardly be called friendly to Russia, was a forced decision. At least that's what the management thought.

The top authorities were afraid of neighboring Croatia and Albania, which had already entered the North Atlantic Alliance. Zagreb had certain interests in relation to the Boka Kotorska region, and Tirana could well encroach on the southern outskirts of Montenegro.

The motivation for dividing a small country would be quite simple - ethnic Croats and Albanians lived in the territories. The right to self-determination of the people here works just right.

They did not dare to hope for guarantees of NATO non-interference in internal affairs and encroachments on the border in Podgorica. IN stories the alliance has enough examples of a perfidious attitude towards its own obligations. The first of them is "honestly" not to expand NATO eastward.

For the leadership of Montenegro, the choice was obvious - to join the military bloc in 2017 and hope for a sparing internal corporate ethics. The Montenegrins were afraid to turn to Russia in the event of a mess with aggressive NATO neighbors. The memory of Moscow's de facto non-intervention in the Yugoslav conflicts of the 90s was still fresh.

The extremely dodgy course of the country's leader Milo Djukanovic, who has been at the helm for almost 30 years, was also important. It was he who pushed Montenegro's pro-Western orientation and advocated NATO membership.

Milo Djukanovic. Source: ru.wikipedia.org

As a military unit, Montenegro is vanishingly small. At the time of joining NATO, the country's air force consisted of only 14 helicopters, and Italy and Greece are protecting the airspace. There is no combat, military transport and rescue aviation.

It got to the point that the Ukrainian Ministry of Emergency Situations was involved in extinguishing forest fires in 2017. With the naval component of the armed forces, the situation is slightly better - there are two frigates and two missile boats in service. But the state of the ships is deplorable. And the training sailing ship "Yadran" (built in 1931) is in the highest combat readiness.

That is why no one takes seriously the fact of Montenegro's accession to NATO. This is undoubtedly a political and anti-Russian step. Even if in the minds of the Montenegrin leadership he seems forced.

Urgently to the European Union!


A small country has to, to put it loyally, be extremely diplomatic towards its stronger neighbors.

And Milo Djukanovic, the President of Montenegro, knows this better than anyone. He has managed to one degree or another to govern the territory since 1991. Now the president's policy is unambiguously aimed at the country's entry into the European Union, in which, by the way, Montenegro is not expected at all.

Tourism is an important source of income (up to 21% of GDP) for the inhabitants of the small Mediterranean country. There is no reason for Europeans to accept Montenegro into the EU - they already successfully use all the benefits of the territory. During the holiday season, on the coast in the era before the pandemic, one could find license plates with registration for every taste.

Russians are real regulars of Montenegrin resorts. According to statistics, as of May 2019, the number of tourists from Russia was second only to Germany and sister Serbia. However, Russian tourists do not enjoy any special privileges. Registration for staying in the country is paid, as for all other residents.

At the same time, the citizens of the Russian Federation have bought up Montenegrin real estate for many billions of dollars - such investments should turn into political dividends. In response, Montenegro willingly joined the anti-Russian sanctions developed by the EU.

The reaction from the West was predictable:

"The European Union takes this step into account and welcomes it!"

However, the Montenegrins have not yet been accepted into the EU.


As already mentioned, Djukanovic has long been pursuing an anti-Russian policy.

For example, in 2017, when it became clear that a nationwide referendum on NATO membership would fail, the president pushed the idea through parliament.

A paradox happened - the country entered a military bloc, from the aggression of which it suffered less than twenty years ago. Naturally, this could only be done without taking into account the opinion of the majority.

Another attack by Djukanovic was a criminal case against opposition leader Andriy Mandic, who was accused in 2016 of an attempted pro-Russian coup d'état. Now Mandic recalls with a smile the events of four years ago - then it was possible to prove the absurdity of the charges.

Currently, Mandic is a member of the Montenegrin parliament, chairman of the New Serbian Democracy party and one of the few supporters of friendship with Russia in the leadership of Montenegro.

Montenegro is tired of Djukanovic


In the last fall elections, opposition (read, pro-Russian) parties took 42 seats out of 81 in parliament. And Djukanovic's pro-NATO Democratic Party of Socialists took a record low 35%. The preponderance is rather symbolic, but it is still present.

What is the reason for the reversal of the electoral opinion?

Much of the story unfolded because of the pandemic and the associated restrictions on the tourism industry. If earlier the Serbs traveled to the coast of Montenegro to earn money, now the flow of migrant workers stretched in the opposite direction.


The tourism industry in Montenegro is having a hard time with covid restrictions. Source: profi.travel

Opposition analysts argue that if the tourist season is not opened next year, then the Montenegrins will have nothing to eat. They exaggerate, of course, but there is a state of panic uncertainty in the country.

There is no need to wait for help from the Europeans now (we would have to deal with it ourselves), and relations with Russia are completely ruined.

It turns out that Djukanovic sold the sovereignty of his country to Europe, receiving nothing in return. The desire to join the European Union is so great in the country's leadership that even the updated government from the opposition parliament is not going to lift sanctions against Russia.

In this regard, the rhetoric of diplomats from Podgorica is striking in its duplicity. Ambassador of Montenegro to Russia Milorad Shcepanovic:

“The EU sanctions against Russia, which Montenegro has joined, are not Montenegrin sanctions, but the decision to join them is the result of the commitments made as a candidate in the EU integration process to join the common foreign and security policy of the European Union. Russia mirrored Montenegro's response, and we understand that. We are not happy about the sanctions, but this decision was not originally in our hands. "

Will Russia understand?


According to the mentioned MP Andriy Mandic, the elected opposition parties, in fact, deceived their citizens. They came to power on pro-Russian slogans, opposing themselves to the policies of Djukanovic, but in the end they dance to his tune.

Consequences of his course

"For Europe - against Russia"

very well felt in Montenegro in covid times.

During the epidemic, no help was received from the European Union - neither medicines, nor medical equipment. They did not dare to turn to Russia (for obvious reasons).

Djukanovic dreamed of making the Mediterranean country a real tourist paradise and closed some industrial enterprises in advance. Now this threatens a large-scale crisis - the Europeans are in no hurry to return to the beaches, and they are not ready to buy goods produced in Montenegro.

Just as Russia is not ready for such sacrifices.

Little Montenegro has lost at least $ 2 billion from the sanctions war with Moscow alone. It seems unnecessary to say that the damage from Podgorica sanctions for Russia tends to zero.

A difficult situation requires action. And in this small Mediterranean country, which was once truly brotherly for us, they started talking about turning to the east.

So far, only oppositionists and so far not loudly.

They hope that Russia will understand. And forgive.
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  1. Snail N9
    Snail N9 2 January 2021 05: 08
    +28
    The next "limitrophe" "brothers", from which there is more harm than good in any case, even though they are "for Russia" or "for focusing on the EU" ... In the first case, they will whine that Russia gives them little and listens to them little , and in the second case, they will simply shit on the smallest and join another anti-Russian chorus of the EU. Into the furnace.
    1. Commissar77
      Commissar77 2 January 2021 06: 45
      +18
      Russia has two allies - the Army and the Navy
      All other temporary companions.
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 2 January 2021 07: 23
        +14
        The article is very similar to wishful thinking.
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 2 January 2021 11: 12
          +10
          ... During the epidemic, no help was received from the European Union - neither medicines, nor medical equipment. Contact Russia (for obvious reasons) did not dare.

          Who needs this Montenegro! Russia is better than poor Italy to help, which does not seek to join either NATO or the European Union. Since it is already a member of these unfriendly unions for Russia.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 2 January 2021 13: 22
            +14
            Montenegro, with its pro-Western president, has chosen its NATO path, hostile to Russia.
            Therefore, Russia does not need to offer Montenegro its own Russian vaccine against coronavid-19 in the form of disinterested assistance at all. All the same, Montenegro, as expected, will not properly appreciate such assistance from Russia.
            For the good, received politically and economically easily and almost for nothing, has never been valued and appreciated by the recipient in life as highly as the good for which the recipient paid dearly.
            All the same, Montenegro will stubbornly stand at the doors of the United States and the West in line with other countries to be admitted into their hallways.
            These are the rules of political psychology.

            And in general, it is not for nothing that they say that one's good should be with fists.
            That is, you yourself need to be able to appreciate and protect your goodness and kindness from freeloaders, and not scatter them - especially to your enemies - right and left.
            All the more, you need to be careful when you do it unselfishly, if you do not want to receive new psychological debtors-haters and sworn enemies for yourself in the recipients of your kindness in the future.
            These are the rules in the psychology of interpersonal relationships.
            1. Cherry Nine
              Cherry Nine 2 January 2021 22: 04
              +9
              Quote: Tatiana
              Therefore, Russia does not need to offer Montenegro its own Russian vaccine against coronavid-19 in the form of disinterested assistance.

              Well, thank God, at least Montenegro will not be offered. Maybe even this vaccine will reach Mytishchi, I'm not even talking about Voronezh.
          2. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 2 January 2021 20: 04
            0
            Quote: Stas157
            Who needs this Montenegro! Russia is better than poor Italy to help, which does not seek to join either NATO or the European Union. Since it is already a member of these unfriendly unions for Russia.

            Taki Montenegro is also already a member of NATO ...
        2. pytar
          pytar 2 January 2021 13: 42
          +10
          The article is very similar to wishful thinking.

          The state has little to do with reality. Instant noodles, for a sketch on the ears! laughing But such posts are liked by a certain contingent of readers. yes
          1. MIRA
            MIRA 9 January 2021 14: 03
            0
            The article is quite real and corresponds to reality as of today, January 9, 2021. You just don't know Montenegro from the inside.
            1. pytar
              pytar 9 January 2021 14: 16
              0
              The article is quite real and corresponds to reality as of today, January 9, 2021. You just don't know Montenegro from the inside.

              I know perfectly well. I have a business there. laughing
              1. Lyubov Dedkova
                Lyubov Dedkova 3 March 2021 10: 53
                0
                Do you treat your teeth? Judging by the emoticons))) good business)))
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 2 January 2021 13: 26
        +2
        The Strategic Missile Forces have been forgotten .. Times have changed considerably - now we have three allies.
      3. Escobar
        Escobar 2 January 2021 18: 03
        +1
        Who will immediately spit in the back for Western handouts. Remember the "Marshall plan" when European countries abandoned communist ideology for mate help
        1. Gaiful
          Gaiful 7 January 2021 21: 02
          +1
          I remembered our country, Russia, which for the promises of American material aid abandoned the communist ideology. True, except for the oligarchs loyal to the West, none of the so-called. "people" did not receive.
      4. Gaiful
        Gaiful 7 January 2021 20: 57
        +2
        It will be completely and rightly so - Russian oligarchs have two allies - the Army and the Navy
        All other temporary companions. And then many have forgotten who is building capitalism in our country, for those who do not know - those who have big capital.
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 2 January 2021 12: 08
      +5
      .The next "limitrophic" "brothers",

      Do you understand the meaning of the term 'limitrophe' in general terms?
  2. marchcat
    marchcat 2 January 2021 05: 10
    +28
    At the same time, citizens of the Russian Federation bought up Montenegrin real estate for many billions of dollars
    If you look at who bought it, it is not surprising that the policy of Montenegro is exactly this. For those who bought real estate, Russia is just a place of work ....
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 2 January 2021 10: 00
      +7
      Quote: marchcat
      If you look at who bought it, it is not surprising that the policy of Montenegro is exactly this. For those who bought real estate, Russia is just a place of work ....

      they probably have more than one Russian citizenship. Therefore, let their author regret
      1. your1970
        your1970 2 January 2021 11: 13
        +15
        Quote: marchcat
        For those who bought real estate, Russia is just a place of work ....

        Quote: Stirbjorn
        they probably have more than one Russian citizenship.

        My neighbor down the street, unemployed for 30 years already, receiving subsidies for the poor and benefits for children, using compulsory medical insurance and not paying personal income tax because there is no income - I bought an apartment in Bulgaria on the first line ...
        He has KamAZ and kalyms. ..
        He NOT pays taxes, fines and "Platonov" (car 05 region + dead man lol ), contributions to the pension and compulsory medical insurance ....

        In my opinion - that the oligarchs, that he - one field of berries - thieves. They differ only in the size of the stolen goods, they stole them from the villas, and he was only worth 2. But if he came across a gas pipeline ...

        Z. Y. I don’t know for citizenship, I won’t be surprised if he also has a second, the same Bulgaria, for example
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 2 January 2021 13: 30
          +11
          He DOES NOT pay taxes, fines and "Platonov" (car 05 region + deceased sovennik lol), contributions to the pension and compulsory medical insurance ...

          And here I am paying taxes, fines and Platons, as a result - I have an insulting pension to which I will not live up to and a polyclinic, which I do not go to because of senselessness .. Well - and which of us two is a donkey?
          1. Gaiful
            Gaiful 7 January 2021 21: 07
            +2
            Of course you who have failed to integrate into capitalism.
        2. Petr Vladimirovich
          Petr Vladimirovich 2 January 2021 13: 57
          +1
          Classmate, older, 47 g. Small production in MO. Everything is white. Four employees. The wife of the deputy director of the sports center. The son is a tennis coach. There is an apartment in Montenegro. Enjoy one month in the summer when everyone has a vacation.
          1. Gaiful
            Gaiful 7 January 2021 21: 10
            +1
            You missed the main word - "Says that everything is in white.", Hereinafter in the text.
        3. Grits
          Grits 2 January 2021 15: 09
          +1
          Quote: your1970
          My neighbor down the street, unemployed for 30 years already, receiving subsidies for the poor and benefits for children, using compulsory medical insurance and not paying personal income tax because there is no income - I bought an apartment in Bulgaria on the first line ...
          He has KamAZ and kalyms. ..
          He does NOT pay taxes, fines and "Platonov" (car 05 region + deceased person lol), contributions to the pension and compulsory medical insurance ....

          Pee the fence on him.
          1. bk0010
            bk0010 2 January 2021 18: 10
            +1
            Quote: Gritsa
            Pee the fence on him.
            If what was written was true, then it would be enough to call the police about a suspicious KAMAZ, let this guy try to get it back. If he returns for a bribe, then repeat until enlightenment.
            1. your1970
              your1970 3 January 2021 10: 45
              -1
              Quote: bk0010
              it would be enough to call the police about a suspicious KAMAZ

              И Th????? That they will show him ????? The tax authorities tried to sew illegal business on him, yeah ... He flooded everyone with complaints ... And that's all ... It's impossible to prove ...
              The administration tried not to pay him subsidies of some kind - he made a slander to the prosecutor's office, they fell in love with the administration (very painful !!) .- legally his only income is the salary of a cleaning lady's wife in a kindergarten
              Quote: bk0010
              If he returns for a bribe, then repeat until enlightenment.
              he does not pay NOTHING!!! There is not even a talk about bribes ... Now it is a matter of time to grind any government agency. If only you had everything relatively legal ...

              Quote: paul3390
              Well - and which of us two is a donkey?
              - i.e morally are you ready to justify my neighbor or any oligarch? For me they are equal- despite for the difference in stolen goods.
              The neighbor uses the offshore company in the same way (05), he also does not pay taxes, and he also takes money out of the country
              1. bk0010
                bk0010 3 January 2021 15: 30
                0
                Quote: your1970
                And what ????? What will they show him ?????
                Will they present? Well, what are you presenting? They will take the car to an impound parking lot, and let him look for documents that this is his car, and not the deceased.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 3 January 2021 15: 44
                  0
                  Well, well ... We tried once ... It turned out that it is easier to fire a traffic police soldier "of his own free will" (type) .... A person has mastered the technology of butting with any government agency as our father in 30 years ...
              2. Grits
                Grits 4 January 2021 04: 34
                +3
                Quote: your1970
                Now it is a matter of time to grind any government agency.

                You are absolutely right here. The prosecutor's office has already annoyed all authorities at all levels with their demands and representations and other pieces of paper. For any reason and for no reason. And any moron who wrote any heresy and nonsense to the prosecutor's office will be gladly raised by the prosecutor's office as a banner of struggle against disgusting officials. Administrations are then tortured to write a bunch of papers, submit documents and reports, they will get bored with stupid, unnecessary checks. Therefore, no one even wants to get involved with such violent people. Rampant addicts take advantage of this very well.
              3. Gaiful
                Gaiful 7 January 2021 21: 13
                +1
                He doesn't condone the oligarchs. He simply says that they, the oligarchs, live better than you silent donkeys.
            2. Grits
              Grits 4 January 2021 04: 28
              +1
              Quote: bk0010
              If what was written was true, then it would be enough to call the police about a suspicious KAMAZ, let this guy try to get it back. If he returns for a bribe, then repeat until enlightenment.

              But after that, you still need to piss on the fence.
        4. ccsr
          ccsr 2 January 2021 17: 17
          +7
          Quote: your1970
          He DOES NOT pay taxes, fines and "Platonov" (car 05 region + deceased composer), contributions to the pension and compulsory medical insurance ....

          Recently there was a discussion of small business in Russia, and your example just shows how much the budget suffers from such "entrepreneurs", against whom there will always be those entrepreneurs who honestly pay all taxes.
          By the way, there are a lot of such "businessmen" in the country, and I think about the scale of their activities, many do not even imagine, but they shout that the government presses small business. But in fact, many crooks from small businesses just very easily bypass the laws, and live without making any deductions, even for their employees. And then those who work for them suddenly find out that they did not make any contributions to the FIU for them, which is why the cat cried out for them, but Putin is to blame for everything, and not their employer.
    2. Andrey Krasnoyarsky
      Andrey Krasnoyarsky 2 January 2021 13: 21
      +3
      ... And Montenegro and other states hostile to their country are their reserve shelter, where they will dump when in their historical homeland they begin to find out where they got millions and billions from. Then overseas real estate will come in handy.
    3. Igoresha
      Igoresha 2 January 2021 17: 08
      +2
      For those who bought real estate, Russia is just a place of work ....
      yes, the Moscow prosecutor built hotels there and NAavalny took him and exposed
      1. Gaiful
        Gaiful 7 January 2021 21: 16
        +2
        Therefore, the Moscow prosecutor is bastard in Montenegro, and Navalny is being treated in a hospital. Now at least you know who lives well in Russia now!
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  4. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 2 January 2021 05: 29
    0
    Yevgeny Dzhukanovich will include in the sanctions lists of persons against Russia for subversive activities against his democracy in this article. smile
    Wait for a response from Montenegro and Brussels.
    I believe you will be banned from entering Montenegro and all your accounts in Europe will be arrested ... I hope a criminal case will not be opened against you. hi
  5. Poetry
    Poetry 2 January 2021 06: 29
    -5
    Montenegro, as they are called in the West. Negro Mountain. Flag in their hands. EU flag.
    1. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 2 January 2021 12: 23
      +4
      negro in Spanish is black.
      1. Poetry
        Poetry 2 January 2021 19: 22
        0
        Kapets! Gracias, sensei. In Italian too. Italy is the closest country in the West. It is a pity that you have a little bit of humor.
  6. Sergey M. Karasev
    Sergey M. Karasev 2 January 2021 06: 30
    +5
    They hope that Russia will understand. And forgive.

    Do we need it? Our farewell is not endless. Maybe others will respect us more, otherwise they are accustomed to forgiveness.
    1. Walking
      Walking 2 January 2021 08: 30
      +2
      Yes, we can not forgive all these brothers, but unfortunately we do not manage foreign policy.
      1. Sergey M. Karasev
        Sergey M. Karasev 2 January 2021 08: 43
        -6
        Quote: Hiking
        Yes, we can not forgive all these brothers, but unfortunately we do not manage foreign policy.

        If you are talking about THEIR foreign policy, then yes - not manageable. Otherwise they would have been our puppets, and we have no puppets on the political map of the world. But we can INFLUENCE their foreign policy through unforgiveness and harsh punishment for the mischief committed against Russia, and this one will be a useful lesson for the "brothers" plotting to curry favor with the West through Russophobia.
        "Their example is other science" (c).
        1. Rudkovsky
          Rudkovsky 2 January 2021 21: 53
          +6
          Russophobia only exists in your head. What makes you think that European countries generally think a lot about Russia? Well, it's simple - why? Russia does not intersect with them in any way, does not influence in any way, has no cultural, economic weight and obediently sails in the tail of the world column. Do you think with empty threats and growls you will make you "respect"? No one will listen, even tiny Montenegro.
          1. Sergey M. Karasev
            Sergey M. Karasev 3 January 2021 06: 15
            +3
            Russophobia only exists in your head.

            True? And what bad thing have we done to Britain, which does not know which one to do, like the Skripals? Bulgaria, which flatly abandoned the South Stream, while losing a lot of money? Poland, ready to build bases at least for Lucifer himself with all the demons, if only against Russia? Are they really waiting for the invasion of the myriad hordes of Russians or what? Are you sure this is not Russophobia?
            Do you think with empty threats and growls you will make you "respect"?

            We do not growl - they growl at us. And to be silent in a rag and smile in response is somehow not comme il faut.
            1. gsev
              gsev 5 January 2021 18: 37
              +2
              Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
              And what bad thing have we done to Britain, which does not know which one to do to us, like the Skripals?

              Probably during the time of Trotsky, Stalin and Khrushchev they contributed to the collapse of the British Empire.
            2. Gaiful
              Gaiful 7 January 2021 21: 22
              +1
              British capital does not give up the fight against competitors, albeit small ones like Russia. For your information, we, in Russia, also have capitalism, popularly chosen by the way.
        2. Cherry Nine
          Cherry Nine 2 January 2021 22: 10
          +3
          Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
          through unforgiveness and harsh punishment

          Who are you going to punish there? Montenegro is a window to Europe, discounted, but at least such, for all categories of the population there who have problems with the Schengen area. So, do not open your mouth on someone else's loaf, so to speak.
          1. Sergey M. Karasev
            Sergey M. Karasev 3 January 2021 06: 20
            0
            Yes, sneeze at these "windows" with "loaves". Close all trade and economic ties and let them count their losses. Happiness is not in Europe.
            1. Cherry Nine
              Cherry Nine 3 January 2021 11: 11
              +1
              Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
              Yes, sneeze at these "windows" with "loaves".

              You don't seem to understand. This is typical of couch foreign ministers.

              Montenegro is important for Russia, or rather for some population groups in Russia. And not to anger these specific groups of the population from scratch - as long as there is enough sense.
              1. Sergey M. Karasev
                Sergey M. Karasev 3 January 2021 11: 27
                +1
                I express my own opinion, and not the official position of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and
                some population groups in Russia
                .
                If you also belong to these groups of the population and your opinion is more valuable for our rulers, then I am happy for you, but this does not deprive me of the right to possess and express my own opinion. And if you think that my opinion is wrong and detrimental to the country, then prove it in a more intelligible way.
              2. Gaiful
                Gaiful 7 January 2021 21: 32
                +2
                Montenegro is important to Russia in much the same way as the countries of the Warsaw Pact were important to the USSR. True, our future oligarchs, the basis of modern Russia, did not cost them (these countries) for their own benefit. They say that Russian traditions cannot be drunk and other countries know about it.
            2. Gaiful
              Gaiful 7 January 2021 21: 26
              +1
              A prosperous Russia and a decaying West, so you and some soviet part of the population think.
    2. Gaiful
      Gaiful 7 January 2021 21: 19
      +1
      Sergei Mikhailovich Karasev that's right, our oligarchs do not forgive this.
  7. edeligor
    edeligor 2 January 2021 07: 41
    +7
    I am simply amazed at this "forgiveness" of brothers - from Bulgaria to the wreckage of Yugoslavia. Understand and forgive? - Never! Although, this is purely my opinion. The most unpleasant thing about such deeds is the rewriting of history. How will it end? Everything depends exclusively on us, or rather, on those who make decisions at the very top.
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 2 January 2021 08: 14
      +5
      That's right, here the "patriots" - supporters of the "Slavic world" trivially bypass the fact that it was the policy of "patronage of the Balkan Slavs", the intercession of "brothers" - the Serbs that led to the greatest geopolitical catastrophe that destroyed the Russian Empire ...
      1. Kronos
        Kronos 2 January 2021 10: 21
        +2
        No, imperialism always comes to collapse, it has nothing to do with it.
    2. pytar
      pytar 2 January 2021 14: 14
      +8
      I am simply amazed at this "forgiveness" of brothers - from Bulgaria to the wreckage of Yugoslavia. Understand and forgive? - Never! Although, this is purely my opinion. The most unpleasant thing about such deeds is the rewriting of history. How will it end? Everything depends exclusively on us, or rather, on those who make decisions at the very top.

      And I am amazed at the complete lack of understanding of what happened, with people like you! What is the reason that even the most friendly, Russophile peoples and countries are leaving Russia? Ross. propaganda "explains" this fact with some kind of irrational betrayal among these peoples! Tezza is elementary, easily digested ... In fact, the real truth is hard-hitting for Ross. society! Today's Russia does not have its own civilization modelthat would be competitive to the West! Not in economics, not in politics, not in culture, not in social order! Russia, in its present form, is not an example for others! Unfortunately ... request
      1. Grits
        Grits 2 January 2021 15: 14
        +8
        Quote: pytar
        What is the reason that even the most friendly, Russophile peoples and countries are leaving Russia?

        So you explain to us - what is the reason that Bulgaria fought against us in two world wars - the country that saved you from the Turkish yoke? And now he is in a military bloc with our sworn enemies, explain. Why should we justify ourselves to you, and not you to us? We did not betray you, you betray us.
        1. pytar
          pytar 2 January 2021 17: 57
          +2
          So you explain to us - what is the reason that Bulgaria fought against us in two world wars - the country that saved you from the Turkish yoke?

          Although the topic here is not about how to explain to you Konstantin Gayvoronsky by the PMA:
          https://www.vedomosti.ru/opinion/articles/2017/10/20/738689-bratushki-bratoubiitsami
          She did not fight in WWII. From the word - absolutely. Supported the norms. diplomatic relations. Bolg. the embassy was in Kuibishev, and the Soviet embassy in Sofia, then in Varna.
          And now he is in a military bloc with our sworn enemies, explain.

          Because of the betrayal of your Gorby and Yeltsin. Bulgaria joined NATO for 14 years / during this time my children grew up !!! /, after the collapse of the ATS! All this time you hugged NATO!
          Why should we justify ourselves to you, and not you to us?

          Not due! And also to blame, someone else is also not necessary! Everyone has their own sins, their mistakes. Yours mattered more, because your country is a world power.
          It was not we who betrayed you, but you us.

          If we subscribe to events in chronology and in causal relations, it turns out that you have betrayed everyone, including yourself! A traitor who has no right to reproach him for betrayal, because only those who are righteous can throw stones! But righteous and will not give up!
      2. edeligor
        edeligor 2 January 2021 17: 28
        +5
        What is the reason that even the most friendly, Russophile peoples and countries are leaving Russia?
        What is it? Isn't that funny yourself? Read the story, you are our Russophile, and answer this question. You are with those who feed tastier. Only the Anglo-Saxons lay down well, but it's hard to sleep - isn't it?
        Today's Russia does not have its own civilization model
        You can't argue with that, what is not, that is not. Only to bend under the changing world is not ours.
        And yet, on your own behalf - read the story carefully. I do not ask YOU for love and brotherhood in arms. YOU don't shit at graves and monuments! For if it were not for our ancestors, then you would not know your language, like the Armenians, Georgians, etc. ...
        1. pytar
          pytar 2 January 2021 18: 05
          +1
          What is it? Isn't that funny yourself?

          After reading your and several other similar comments, I really felt funny! laughing
          Read the story, you are our Russophile, and answer this question.

          Before giving advice, first read it yourself! But not how the devil reads the Gospels!
          You are with those who feed tastier.

          The statesmen are guided in the first place by the interest of their powers! And nothing else! If you can, then everyone can!
          Only the Anglo-Saxons lay down well, but it's hard to sleep - isn't it?

          In two world wars you were allies with the Anglo-Saxons. Like "the eternal enemies of the Slavs"! Was it well laid?
          Today's Russia does not have its own civilization model - You can't argue with that, what is not, that is not.

          These are fundamental problems! All the others come from him!
          Only to bend under the changing world is not ours.

          Yes, yes ... Reading "lifting from his knees" lasted a long time ... And somehow it goes in the wrong direction ...
          I do not ask YOU for love and brotherhood in arms. YOU don't shit at graves and monuments!

          You are a victim of Ross. propaganda! I 1001 times here on VO, in detail with facts, evidence, proved and showed that this is a myth! I am engaged in monuments myself! We have Russian. the monuments are completely intact! There are more than 530 of them! World record for concentration! And after the 90s we have built 12-14 new ones! Where, in what other country in the world, is there such a thing? I’ll add on my own - don’t believe the propaganda, it makes you monstrously intoxicated!
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          2. Gaiful
            Gaiful 7 January 2021 21: 41
            +1
            pytar. For reference: - this is not Ross. propaganda, but propaganda of our hucksters, whom our people call oligarchs with love and envy.
            1. pytar
              pytar 7 January 2021 22: 02
              0
              I understand, Vasil! I agree with you! hi
      3. Rubi0
        Rubi0 2 January 2021 20: 16
        +3
        The problem is not that she did not offer a model, but that under the USSR she did not treat other republics as colonies following the example of the West, and instead of sucking out resources and disposing of dirty production, it cost everyone the factories of high technology products, nuclear power plants, and sent human resources. Therefore, the local national elites, instead of the question of how to give loans for all this good, instantly the idea was born to take all this into their own hands.
        1. pytar
          pytar 2 January 2021 20: 56
          +3
          And how does it feel? For example, Yamal is the richest region of the Russian Federation! And people live there, to put it mildly, creepy ... From all over Siberia, the Far East, money from the exploitation of local resources goes to Moscow, and little of anything turns back!
          1. Rubi0
            Rubi0 2 January 2021 22: 20
            0
            So it was necessary to treat strangers so.
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  8. pmkemcity
    pmkemcity 2 January 2021 08: 28
    +11
    Little Montenegro has lost at least $ 2 billion from the sanctions war with Moscow alone.

    Interesting - how did we annoy Montenegro by 2 billion? Where does this figure come from? The population there is 600, that's $ 3300 for a brother, for a sister, for children and the elderly, or $ 10000 for a family.
    1. Plantagenet
      Plantagenet 2 January 2021 08: 50
      +5
      Maybe they painted on an extra zero or two?
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 2 January 2021 08: 55
      +8
      Quote: pmkemcity
      Where does this figure come from?

      How from where? From the author's head. Fortunately, N.V. Gogol has already written everything before us.
      "Today is the day of the greatest celebration! There is a king in Spain. He has been found. This king is me. It was only today that I found out about it. I confess that it suddenly lit me up like lightning. I don't understand how I could think and imagine, that I am a titular councilor. "
    3. Mikhail Korolev
      Mikhail Korolev 2 January 2021 12: 06
      0
      After Podgorica joined the anti-Russian sanctions in 2014, the Balkan country lost approximately $ 2 billion. This was announced by the deputy of the Assembly of Montenegro, the leader of the "Democratic Front" Milan Knezhevich.
      Among the main results of the restrictive measures, Knezhevich named a decrease in the flow of Russian tourists and investments. According to him, before joining the anti-Russian sanctions, every third tourist and every second investment came from Russia, and now local entrepreneurs are facing serious financial problems.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 2 January 2021 15: 04
        +1
        Quote: Mikhail Korolev
        Among the main results of restrictive measures, Knezhevich called a decrease in the flow of Russian tourists and investments.

        1) 2019 became a record year for Montenegro in terms of the number of tourists
        In 2019, more than 2,6 million tourists visited Montenegro, the Ministry of Sustainable Development and Tourism of Montenegro said. The number of overnight stays was over 14,5 million.
        https://waytomonte.com/n-1412-2019-god-lucsij-turisticeskij-god-v-istorii-cernogorii
        2) Tourist flow from Russia to Montenegro grew by 23%
        December 3 2019
        From January to September this year, the flow of tourists from Russia to Montenegro grew by 22.6% and exceeded 280 people.
        https://www.tourister.ru/world/europe/montenegro/news/20989
        3) The apartment market in Montenegro is developing due to Russian investments
        During 2019, Russian investors invested about € 33 million in the real estate market of Montenegro.It is Russian money that makes this Balkan country develop, including in the field of tourism. This development has resulted in the emergence of a European social infrastructure and an overall rise in living standards.

        According to statistics from the Central Bank of Montenegro, over 10 months of last year, investors from the Russian Federation made the largest investments in the local economy.
        https://whiteinvestor.com/rynok-apartamentov-chernogorii-razvivaetsya-za-schet-rossijskikh-investitsij.html
        1. Mikhail Korolev
          Mikhail Korolev 2 January 2021 15: 25
          -1
          Stop the car ... You (and others like you) cannot be understood. Then you and others like you whine throughout the forum that "Russia's share in the economy of Montenegro is minimal, or even absent altogether." It turns out that Russian investors are making the largest investments in the local economy. And the Russian tourist occupies an important share in the travel industry. All of you are not regular. And what is the contradiction? Can't there be 2 lard losses in the investment and tourism cluster and in agriculture? Moreover, of course, in aggregate since 2014.
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 2 January 2021 16: 35
            +1
            You have just been proven wrong with numbers and facts, instead of just trying to learn and start thinking, you decided to pose as a clown. The last time I'm spending my time on you.
            Quote: Mikhail Korolev
            that "Russia's share in the economy of Montenegro is minimal, if not even absent."

            In foreign trade (including agricultural products). All trade in 2014 - $ 10 million
            Quote: Mikhail Korolev
            It turns out that Russian investors make the largest investments in the local economy.

            В property market ... Small bandits from the Russian Federation (officials, security officials, businessmen) legalize the loot here by buying real estate there. And these "investments", as well as the tourist flow until the "covid" 2020, were growing. The numbers are given in the previous message. Compared to
            pre-authorized 2013 in terms of tourist flow - in 2013 - 300 thousand, in 2019 - 370 thousand.
            Quote: Mikhail Korolev
            Can't there be 2 lard losses in the investment and tourism cluster and in agriculture?

            The question from the category is whether 2 + 2 can be equal to 8. Maybe, maybe 88. But only if you state this should prove your statements with numbers.
            In our case, you should first prove the presence of these "losses" of 2 billion with a real growth in tourist flow and investments in real estate, and then prove that these losses are the result of sanctions, and not changes in market conditions. Go for it.
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            2. Mikhail Korolev
              Mikhail Korolev 2 January 2021 18: 29
              -3
              What did you prove to me there? What numbers did you give me there?
              1) You contradict yourself. Foreign trade (merchandise exports) of Montenegro is already minimal ($ 465 million in 2018 or 1/12 of GDP), the economy is based on tourism and the service sector (including real estate). And you want to tell me that Russian investments (you can talk about gangsters, officials, etc. as much as you like, it will not stop being a balakan) in these most important spheres of the economy mean nothing? What matters is only commodity export ?, which is already minimal there. Or how is it with you now "is it completely different?" Boy you're stupid ...
              2) Russian investments in Montenegro in the late 2000s, early 2010s exceeded 100 million per year.
              Podgorica (Montenegro). March 17. INTERFAX-REAL ESTATE - In 2008, Russians invested 126 million euros in various sectors of the Montenegrin economy, the Minister of Economic Development of Montenegro Branimir Gvozdenovic told reporters on Tuesday.
              https://realty.interfax.ru/ru/news/articles/20193/
              In Montenegro, they calculated the amount of Russian investments for 2013. Direct investments from Russia to Montenegro amounted to 146 million euros, RIA Novosti reports

              And tepenre look at the statistics of the last dock years.
              In 2019, Russian investors invested 58,2 million euros in the economy of Montenegro, according to the Mina agency.
              https://www.homesoverseas.ru/news/V_2019_godu_rossijskie_investory_vlozhili_v_Chernogoriju_582_mln_evro

              In 2017, Russians invested almost € 55 million in the economy of Montenegro.
              https://www.homesoverseas.ru/news/V_2019_godu_rossijskie_investory_vlozhili_v_Chernogoriju_582_mln_evro

              Now you fool, watch your hands. ONLY FOLLOW CAREFULLY. Russia, as it was the largest investor in the Montenegrin economy, has remained so for almost all recent years. There were no more people willing to interrupt these figures (with the exception of one year).
              And now, on the contrary, prove to me what the drop in investments in recent years is, this is not the result of sanctions and the deterioration of relations between the two countries, but a change in market conditions (which are directly the result of sanctions, both Montenegro and the EU in general, which it loves so much). Can you? well good luck ...
              1. Gaiful
                Gaiful 7 January 2021 21: 50
                +1
                Mikhail Korolev, you, pseudo-economists, do not know that poking people and calling them fools is not good? For this you can get in the face, though I forgot that you are an Internet couch warrior analyst and on the couch you can behave very dishonestly.
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    4. ccsr
      ccsr 2 January 2021 17: 25
      0
      Quote: pmkemcity
      Interesting - how did we annoy Montenegro by 2 billion?

      It's hard to say what they annoyed, but this picture gives an idea of ​​what happened many, many years ago:


      So, taking into account temporary amendments, these 2 billion could appear as subsidies or benefits for the same energy carriers.
  9. U-58
    U-58 2 January 2021 08: 45
    +9
    Actually, the description of the situation in Montenegro is not much different from the Russian reality.
    The same search for benefits, the same deception of the population with "pushing through" unpopular decisions.
    The scale of countries and their importance in the world differ. The rest is complete identity.
    All the more strange is the pro-Western course.
    However, all forges its own destiny. The owner is the master.
    It should be noted that the policy of neighboring Serbia is very similar to that of Montenegrin.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 2 January 2021 12: 25
      +2
      No, everything is logical for them, they are not guided by Russia.
  10. Ros 56
    Ros 56 2 January 2021 08: 50
    -2
    Enough to understand and forgive, they are sick and tired of the bitter radish. Either they launch Russia to themselves in full or all by themselves. Moreover, legally, everything should be recorded in documents, in reinforced concrete documents. There are no other options.
  11. Odysseus
    Odysseus 2 January 2021 09: 06
    +17
    Another article in the series "haberdasher and cardinal is strength".
    Montenegro is a small country that was born (in its present form) in 2006 with the help and assistance of the EU. Located in Europe, bordering NATO, BIG, and Serbia.
    What orientation should it adhere to? Here's the million dollar question. How does the author think of her "pro-Russian" orientation and what does the Russian Federation have to do with it? In the structure of foreign trade, the Russian Federation has zero significance for it. Why then should it not adhere to a "pro-Chinese" orientation - after all, the importance of the PRC for the economy of Montenegro is ten times higher.
    In fact, Montenegro's only connection with the Russian Federation is that it is one of the favorite hideouts for low-caliber “patriots”. The bosses, of course, prefer more impressive countries, but all sorts of department heads and middle-class businessmen will steal here and bring them to Montenegro.
    But for these citizens, the European prospects of Montenegro only in the plus-their real estate will grow in value.
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 2 January 2021 10: 05
    +5
    Little Montenegro has lost at least $ 2 billion from the sanctions war with Moscow alone. It seems unnecessary to say that the damage from Podgorica sanctions for Russia tends to zero.

    The volume of foreign trade for 2014 is $ 2806 million.
    Exports: Aluminum, ships, vehicles, food and wine.
    Imports: Fuel, machinery and equipment, consumer goods. Geographical distribution of foreign trade of Montenegro (for 2014):
    EU countries - 44,0% ($ 1238 million).
    African countries - 14% ($ 0,5 billion)
    China - 6,4% ($ 179 million)
    Turkey - 2,0% ($ 55 million)
    Countries of America - 1,9% ($ 53 million)
    Russia - 0,3% ($ 10 million)
    1. Mikhail Korolev
      Mikhail Korolev 2 January 2021 12: 24
      -7
      And what does that say? Do you measure boas in parrots? In Montenegro's GDP, industrial production accounts for 3.9%, agriculture 8.1%. The rest is tourism and services. How tired these self-taught economists are, then they are looking for 2 lard in exports, then in per capita income per YEAR. Something ukrovskikh "experts" reminds that profit "naftogaz" on the contrary in GDP were looking for, although it goes into the budget.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 2 January 2021 14: 39
        +2
        The volume of all foreign trade in 2014 is 2 billion 806 million dollars. Little Montenegro lost at least 2 billion dollars from the sanctions war with Moscow. The volume of foreign trade for 2014 with Russia is 10 million dollars. Where are the 2 billion losses?
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        2. Mikhail Korolev
          Mikhail Korolev 2 January 2021 16: 11
          -5
          1) Do you see the word "all" in the figure you quoted? What do you think it says about? This is import and export combined. WHAT ROZHNA DOES IMPORT HERE?
          Cumulative exports from Montenegro amounted to $ 465 million in 2018.
          Total imports to Montenegro amounted to $ 3 billion in 2018.
          This speaks only of a huge imbalance in the commodity trade, and nothing else.
          2) I told him about Thomas, he told me about Erema ... I explain it for the second time. Why are you hooked on this foreign trade? The production of goods there is minimal. The country lives on tourism and the service sector. These are tourism and investment losses combined since 2014.
          1. parusnik
            parusnik 2 January 2021 17: 31
            +1
            2 lard from tourism? Was this so much taken by Russian tourists to Montenegro?
  13. Pavlos Melas
    Pavlos Melas 2 January 2021 10: 27
    +3
    The horror is straight, sofas gnawed at Ukraine, watered Bulgaria, especially young and not so Azerbaijanis, and now Montenegro spit on Greece ... Well, good luck ...
    1. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 2 January 2021 12: 28
      +3
      It is much more difficult to find in whom we don’t spit. And then we are surprised at the attitude towards us.
      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 2 January 2021 13: 34
        +1
        Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay
        It is much more difficult to find in whom we don’t spit. And then we are surprised at the attitude towards us.

        Yes, alas, I noticed this, the most unpleasant thing is that the opinion is often one-sided and gleaned from one source. Moreover, this source is not subject to any analysis.
      2. pytar
        pytar 2 January 2021 19: 46
        +1
        Pashhenko Nikolay (Pashchenko Nikolay) It is much more difficult to find in whom we do not spit. And then we are surprised at the attitude towards us.

        Pavlos Melas (Pavlos) Yes, alas, I noticed this, the most unpleasant thing is that the opinion is often one-sided and gleaned from one source. Moreover, this source is not subject to any analysis.

        The propaganda of hatred, the absence of critical thinking, lead to a distorted perception of reality in a certain contingent.

        Just like with the experiments of Acad. Pavlova! When a certain key word is given, some people start to salivate ... bully
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      1. Pavlos Melas
        Pavlos Melas 2 January 2021 22: 01
        0
        Serbs here, too, were not deprived, they also got it. Croatians, Bosnians and Slovenes have not been spat upon yet, but this is most likely because they are not on this site. Residents of these countries will appear and oppose them too hi
  14. evgen1221
    evgen1221 2 January 2021 11: 24
    -1
    Well, they have an option to swim out, after the pandemic, to carry tourists from the Russian Federation with free tickets to them. Many people would go.
  15. Stas157
    Stas157 2 January 2021 11: 25
    +6
    ... The Montenegrins were afraid to turn to Russia in the event of a mess with aggressive NATO neighbors.

    This is the right decision. Russia fights only against terrorists at distant approaches. And if the allies are bombed by NATO or Israel, Russia becomes indifferent to this.
    Yes, that Montenegro! It cannot help out its Donbass and take it to its home harbor!
  16. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 2 January 2021 11: 31
    +12
    No help can be expected from Europeans now ...


    I don't understand the author ... at all. Doesn't know the address of the website of the European Commission or doesn't understand one of the two dozen languages ​​there?

    EU pre-accession gratuitous aid to Montenegro - 507 million euros, 2010/18.
    Assistance to the Western Balkans (Serbia, Montenegro, North Macedonia, Bosnia, etc.) to cope with the Covid19 consequences - 3,3 billion euros. Free of charge. For 2 years.
    The total EU assistance to countries is 750 billion euros over 2 years.
    As an example, the EU's assistance to Bulgaria for the recovery from the Covid crisis is 11,7 billion euros, for 2 years, of which 9,7 billion euros are free of charge.

    The author, excuse me, but your article is copied from the "tilivisor" .... laughing
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 2 January 2021 12: 27
      +11
      The author is just a propagandist.
    2. pytar
      pytar 2 January 2021 13: 39
      +6
      The author, excuse me, but your article is copied from the "tilivisor" ...

      Eugene, the author is either not in the know, or as can be judged by the whole tone of what was written, this is typical propaganda material, which has little in common with reality!
      1. Gado
        Gado 2 January 2021 20: 36
        0
        And you?! Have not yet understood that there is no one to explain what and how? I have not commented here for these reasons for a long time - if a Bulgarian, and even on "our" site, allows himself to write that the Russians are wrong, then it automatically goes into the column "enemy of the people", especially for the sofa strategists who hang around here day and night.
        Happy New Years everyone, friends and enemies!
        1. pytar
          pytar 2 January 2021 20: 53
          0
          "You can't tell a deaf person, you can't show a blind person, and ... you can't prove it .." laughing
          Happy New Year, Vasco! drinks
          1. Gado
            Gado 3 January 2021 13: 52
            0
            And you! I wish you success, health and good and fruitful days! drinks good
  17. Pashhenko Nikolay
    Pashhenko Nikolay 2 January 2021 12: 26
    +4
    In general, of course, it is interesting. We write ourselves as brothers and then we ourselves are disappointed.
  18. Undecim
    Undecim 2 January 2021 12: 41
    +9
    The country that got scared. The pernicious landmarks of "brotherly" Montenegro
    Another agitation, while the author of this fiery opus is completely unaware of the issue, simply sculpts the hunchback against the wall.
    For a start it is very useful to look at the map of Europe and the place of Montenegro on it.

    And where, given such a geography and such a political map of Europe, should a country half the size of the Ivanovo region drift?
    According to the mentioned MP Andriy Mandic, the elected opposition parties, in fact, deceived their citizens. Came to power on pro-Russian slogans,
    The author at least bothered to familiarize himself with the list of "opposition parties" and tried to find "pro-Russian slogans" in their election program.
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 2 January 2021 12: 58
      +8
      Little Montenegro has lost at least $ 2 billion from the sanctions war with Moscow alone.
      This is approximately the entire annual volume of foreign trade of Montenegro, in which the share of Russia is approximately 4-5 percent.
  19. iouris
    iouris 2 January 2021 13: 06
    +3
    In Montenegro, an author's note under the "mirror" title "The pernicious landmarks of the fraternal" RF "could well have been published. Something to tweak and ...
  20. pytar
    pytar 2 January 2021 13: 34
    +4
    Now we don't have to wait for help from the Europeans (we would have to cope with it ourselves), but relations with Russia have been completely ruined ... During the epidemic, they did not receive any help from the European Union - neither medicines, nor medical equipment ...

    It is not true! The European Union, back in March, approved financial assistance for Montenegro in the amount of 3 million euros, urgently, and another 50 million euros for the program to overcome the consequences of the pandemic! This is more than Russia and China helped! Through other lines of cooperation, the EU countries were supplied with medical equipment and medicines, as well as pre-operational agents / disinfectants, masks, etc. /! There was no shortage of these benefits in Montenegro! Another 18 million euros was provided for small and medium-sized enterprises! This year the EU plans to provide even more significant assistance! Overall in the Western Balkans, the EU has removed 3,3 billion euros to help!
    1. DrEng527
      DrEng527 2 January 2021 15: 51
      -2
      Quote: pytar
      Overall in the Western Balkans, the EU has removed 3,3 billion euros to help!

      happy for you and the EU, and even more for the Russian Federation, that now we are not paying for your loyalty ... bully
      1. pytar
        pytar 2 January 2021 18: 11
        +2
        happy for you and the EU, and even more for the Russian Federation, that now we are not paying for your loyalty ...

        And very, very rich? Being very often in the Russian Federation, I don't see any noticeable progress! Whom do you feed then? Oligarchs? Yes? wink
        1. DrEng527
          DrEng527 2 January 2021 18: 24
          -3
          Quote: pytar
          And very, very rich?

          compared to the USSR? noticeably! Cities have become more beautiful, shops are normal, roads are better ...
          Quote: pytar
          Being very often in the Russian Federation, I don't see any noticeable progress!

          maybe you see ... request I note that your opinion is important to you ...
          and yes, demonstrate loyalty to the sponsor - maybe they will appreciate it and give you a piece of candy ... bully
          Quote: pytar
          Whom do you feed then?

          and for what purpose are you interested in? hi
          we will not contain any more, do not hope ... work yourself ... repeat
          Quote: pytar
          Oligarchs? Yes?

          we have no oligarchs, there are rich, very rich and obscene rich ... wink
          1. pytar
            pytar 2 January 2021 19: 22
            +2
            compared to the USSR? noticeably! Cities have become more beautiful, shops are normal, roads are better ...

            Was in the USSR. Everything was more colorful, more colorful, but the hinterland is a nightmare! And many people dream of returning to the USSR!
            maybe you see ...

            Yes, it is all visible. You can't hide that ... No.
            and yes, demonstrate loyalty to the sponsor - maybe they will appreciate it and give you a piece of candy ...

            At my age, I'm the sponsor! I sponsor my grandchildren! They really love candy! The box is emptied in zero time! laughing
            and for what purpose are you interested in?

            It was not a question, but a hint ... laughing
            we will not contain any more, do not hope ... work yourself ...

            The seller sits on his empty bench, there is no queue, there is no one at all ... And he says to himself - I will not give anything to anyone else! All! Let them not hope! angry
            we have no oligarchs, there are rich, very rich and obscene rich ...

            You are a poet! good RF to one of the best places in the world, at the expense of the indecently rich! As it even looks indecent, for a country where people are fighting for trash cans from supermarkets. sad And this is the richest country in resources in the world! belay
            1. DrEng527
              DrEng527 2 January 2021 22: 37
              -2
              Quote: pytar
              And many people dream of returning to the USSR!

              there were always enough fools in Russia ... but this is your poll ...
              Quote: pytar
              Yes, it is all visible. You can't hide that.

              and someone is hiding something? bully some see only the abomination around, such a vision ... request
              Quote: pytar
              At my age, I'm the sponsor!

              turned on the unconscious? above who wrote about 3 yards? bully
              Quote: pytar
              The seller sits on his empty shop,

              you have a funny vision of Russia, you don’t transfer your Bulgarian realities to us bully
              Quote: pytar
              where people in the trash can fight for stumps from the supermarket

              I have seen beggars in all countries, but I have not met the picture you described in the Russian Federation ... you should go to zhurnalyugi, dirt rakes, or rather an inventor ... bully
              Quote: pytar
              And this is the richest country in resources in the world!

              do not drool out of envy bully
              1. pytar
                pytar 3 January 2021 00: 12
                +1
                there were always enough fools in Russia ...

                it can not be! I see, on the forum all the cleverness write ... laughing
                some see only the abomination around, such a vision ...

                it happens! but this is not a problem in vision ...
                turned on the unconscious? above who wrote about 3 yards?

                providing gratuitous aid to other countries, a widespread practice in the world. did you know?
                you have a funny vision of Russia ..

                If you are amused by sad realities, then well .. have fun! one cries at the wedding, the other dances at the funeral ...
                I saw beggars in all countries, but I have not met the picture you described in Russia ...

                "they will not be there"! okay! laughing
                do not drool out of envy

                would be about what, I do not envy, would be glad! Russia and my country, but they will not be happy.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 3 January 2021 00: 17
                  +2
                  Quote: pytar
                  it can not be! I see, on the forum all the cleverness write ...

                  Accordion! We're all niggles! laughing
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 3 January 2021 00: 19
                    +2
                    Accordion! We're all niggles!

                    Vladimir! Healthy, dear soul! drinks There are bad ones, there are good ones! We are from the good! good
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 3 January 2021 00: 25
                      +1
                      Quote: pytar
                      We are from the good!

                      And I’m a bad guy ... The chief of the Criminal Investigation Office got me a fingal ... laughing
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 3 January 2021 00: 36
                        +3
                        Somehow the chief of the Criminal Investigation Department stuffed me with a fingal ...

                        True! belay Punish him! angry Let the mosquito squeak over his ear every night! wassat
                2. DrEng527
                  DrEng527 4 January 2021 14: 31
                  0
                  Quote: pytar
                  providing gratuitous aid to other countries, a widespread practice in the world. did you know?

                  free cheese in a mousetrap - didn't you know?
                  Quote: pytar
                  if sad realities amuse you,

                  yes, something like bully there are different bully
                  Quote: pytar
                  "they will not be there"! okay!

                  it looks like you have a training manual bully I am writing on my own behalf, I have not come across such, we do not all have large pensions, but you can live. If not drinking or the like. request
                  Quote: pytar
                  Russia and my country, but they will not be happy.

                  stop whining about Russia, you won't wait ... bully I would have understood a German, but from poverty-stricken and trampled Bulgaria? bully
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 4 January 2021 15: 48
                    0
                    free cheese in a mousetrap - didn't you know?

                    ... and even more for the Russian Federation, that now we are not paying for your loyalty ...

                    Everything is somehow contradictory with you ... either this or that ... what Okay, let's skip the obvious inconsistencies in your "reasoning". Info: In 2020, Bulgaria provided free assistance to 18 countries in the amount of 2,8 million euros. Not rich, but on time! As they say, a little help provided on time is big! Shas government urgently organizes assistance to Croatia, in connection with the recent earthquake.
                    it looks like you have a manual ... I'm writing on my own

                    I write manuals. But they are in another area - technical. bully
                    not all of us have big pensions, but you can live. If not drinking or the like.

                    I know. My relatives are Russians. Well ... if you drink, and even then a lot, money will never be enough! By the way, you have recently restored your sobering system! More than 50 thousand. die a year from alcoholism. Bad statistics.
                    Enough whining about Russia, you won't wait ... I would have understood a German, but from poor and trampled Bulgaria?

                    That is the case! On your tezzah, I am opposing the facts! In "poor" Bulgaria people live, if not much better, then certainly not worse than in the most resource-rich country in the world! In Bulgaria, the real incomes of the population have been steadily growing over the past 10-12 years, while in the Russian Federation they are falling. Fifth year, the account of applications for purchases of bulg. citizenship from the side of the Russians. I communicate with many Russians living with us. There is no return flow, from the word at all ... I would be glad fellow if you get better, but so far it gets worse and worse.
                    1. DrEng527
                      DrEng527 4 January 2021 16: 44
                      0
                      Quote: pytar
                      Everything is somehow contradictory with you ... either this or that ...

                      you have it from idle thinking, no more request
                      Quote: pytar
                      in the amount of 2,8 million euros.

                      and received EU subsidies? bully
                      Quote: pytar
                      By the way, you have recently restored your sobering system! More than 50 thousand. die a year from alcoholism. Bad statistics.

                      it's cold here in winter! freeze, so the necessary institution ... request
                      as far as I remember Bulgaria is one of the leaders in suicide ... request
                      Quote: pytar
                      population, have been growing steadily over the past 10-12 years,

                      happy for you, even in a pandemic? bully By the way, why do you people flee from the country from such a sweet life?
                      Quote: pytar
                      and in the Russian Federation fall

                      what to do, war! we do not give up and lick fillets from the USA and the EU, like some request
                      Quote: pytar
                      if you get better, but so far it gets worse and worse.

                      wait and see ... how someone who lives in the Russian Federation constantly, I can say that you see only the bad, but there is also good ... hi However, your life is determined only by the stomach, that's your right ...
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 4 January 2021 20: 09
                        0
                        you have it from idle thinking, no more

                        you do not have the capacity to assess me personally laughing
                        and received EU subsidies?

                        we helped others before joining the EU.
                        it's cold here in winter! freeze, so the necessary institution ...

                        oh yes! I was always surprised by the number of drunks in the streets, ditches and benches! we don't have that. By the way, you have recently become less of them, I do not know for what reason.
                        as far as I remember Bulgaria is one of the leaders in suicide ...

                        information from different sources on this occasion diverges. by what I see - there is no increase in suicides. By the way, for some reason, quite prosperous countries come first. clearly related to mentality.
                        happy for you, even in a pandemic?

                        especially in a pandemic! the government has been accumulating reserves for a long time, for which the opposition has constantly criticized! But the authorities lost their money, because because of the quarantines, people became more nervous.
                        By the way, why do you people flee from the country from such a sweet life?

                        There is such a thing - during the social events, the people sat locked behind barbed wire for half a century, and when the wall fell, many went around the world. And when we entered the EU, this is no longer foreignness. It's like in the USSR from one republic or region, they went to work in others. the majority retain the Bulgarians. citizenship, and many began to return. By the way, many Russians work for us, while they are people with high qualifications! I am familiar with such, I have many friends among them.
                        what to do, war!

                        war is in your heads. such an unnatural state is generated by the entire propaganda machine. it is beneficial to the authorities, as it directs the attention of the people from internal problems to external ones. in short, a classic in the genre.
                        we don’t give up and lick fillets from the USA and the EU, like some

                        I don't know what you lick and I don't want to know. but in fact hundreds of billions of dollars are flowing out of Russia in the West every year! while you shout "don't give up"!
                        wait and see ... how someone who lives in the Russian Federation constantly, I can say that you see only the bad, but there is also good ...

                        Of course there are good things! It's just that the trend is not going to him. I say how often he visits the Russian Federation. for periods it is much better visible what and how has changed.
                        However, your life is determined only by the stomach, that's your right ...

                        Sergey, you put your concepts on others. your pomp, look funny.
                      2. DrEng527
                        DrEng527 4 January 2021 20: 35
                        0
                        Quote: pytar
                        capacity

                        what language is it in?
                        Quote: pytar
                        we helped others before joining the EU.

                        those. do you want to name a number? wink "Against this background, the European money allocated to Bulgaria will increase by 8% to 9 billion euros, with 8.3 billion euros for the current period" https://rus.bg/ekonomika/ekonomika/23170-es-uvelichivaet-subsidii-dlya-bolgarii-pri -obshchem-sokrashchenii-byudzheta-na-kogeziyu
                        who dines a girl, he dances her hi

                        Quote: pytar
                        I don’t know why.

                        trite, we drink less - we live better ...
                        Quote: pytar
                        there is no increase in suicides. by the way, for some reason quite

                        you misunderstood me, probably put it clumsily - you hit the figure of 7 million in the population, only Ukraine self-destructs faster ... request
                        Quote: pytar
                        but the authorities lost their money,

                        ours also chipped in on the children - 25 from the master's shoulder

                        Quote: pytar
                        It's like in the USSR from one republic or region, they went to work in others.

                        self-deception is a dangerous business ... but if you like it request
                        Quote: pytar
                        war is in your heads.

                        hmm, are you lying to yourself or do you think I'm a fool? .... no sanctions against the Russian Federation from the US and the EU? Missile launchers haven't appeared in Romania? B-52 do not fly over Ukraine? SP-2 just not put into operation? Remind me why the Japanese hit Pearl_Habor? Due to the economic blockade ... request So wait for our nuclear warhead against NATO troops in Bulgaria ...
                        Quote: pytar
                        I don't know what you lick and I don't want to know. but in fact, hundreds of billions of dollars flow away from Russia in the west every year! while you shout "don't give up"!

                        1) it is well known how you lick US fillets - see the closure of South Stream and the nuclear power plant - and you are still worried about our money? How much did you lose yourself?
                        2) we have capitalism, money is taken out and tourists - 40 yards of greenery a year ...
                        Quote: pytar
                        It's just that the trend is not going to him.

                        it means you have strange eyesight, I would say a refrain of one note - Russia has become noticeably better since the times of the USSR, 1990s, 2000s. Even now there is a drop, but a small one!
                        Quote: pytar
                        Sergey, you put your concepts on others. your pomp, look funny.

                        yes laugh, just remember that for the last 5 years you have been dying out at a rate of 45 a year ... you do not have political and economic sovereignty ...
                        that's what I wrote about ... and all the money for you ... and money after a certain amount is just evil
                      3. pytar
                        pytar 4 January 2021 21: 43
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                        what language is it in?

                        I will translate the meaning of what has been said in a language you understand - it is not for you to judge me.
                        those. do you want to name a number? Against this background, the European money allocated to Bulgaria will increase by 8% to 9 billion euros ...

                        too lazy to look, to be honest. so it's great! rich countries help those who are poorer! they are us, we are those who are poorer than us. By the way, you probably don't know, but Ireland / Eire / is now the most generous country in the world for donations. probably because for centuries they lived very poorly, they know what it is.
                        you hit the figure of 7 million in the population, only Ukraine self-destructs faster ...

                        I have dealt with these topics. demographic crisis has roots in the 50s. then, due to collectivization, the birth rate among the Bulgarian ethnic group fell sharply. Gypsies and Turks provided the entire total increase. from that time to the present, there are rarely Bulgarian families with more than 2 children. in general, the entire "white race" lurks. as well as the Slavic population of the Russian Federation. this is a global trend.
                        self-deception is a dangerous business ... but if you like it

                        I only look at facts! Impartially! In the previous socialist times, it was difficult for me to get and work even in the USSR. There is no problem to go to work in another country. By the way, my sonarists regularly make social contributions in Bulgaria. This means that they are going to return.
                        it is well known how you lick the fillet of the USA - see the closure of the South Stream and the nuclear power plant - and you are still worried about our money? How much did you lose yourself?

                        You have absolutely no idea about this topic. You are repeating the nonsense that they bring to you from rus-media. For 4 years I worked as a representative of the Bulgarian side on the UP project. And before a month I participated in the acceptance of the "Balkan Stream". It's the same about nuclear power plants. My advice is not to comment on things you don't know anything about.
                        we have capitalism, money is taken out and tourists - 40 yards of greenery a year ..

                        Tourists endure, well, yes ... there is a pandemic, there are not many tourists, and hundreds of billions continue to flow away ...
                        then you have strange eyesight ...

                        Or maybe you have something strange, but everything that is, does not seem to you like that?
                        yes laugh, just remember that for the last 5 years you have been dying out at a rate of 45 a year ...

                        If I were you, I would take care of the extinction of Russians, of the creeping change in the ethnic composition in the Russian Federation! You have 10 million women who cannot find men! No fathers for children!
                        you have no political and economic sovereignty ...
                        that's what I wrote about ...

                        The GDP has stated more than once that there are no absolutely independent countries in the world. All are interdependent. It really is. Only in the distorting mirror of a ru-patriot / and in fact a chauvinist / does everything look different.
                        Let's end our dialogue with this. Do you really believe that you manage to throw noodles on my ears, even though I told you 100 times that I am aware of the real situation in Russia! Not worth it, Sergei, not worth it. No.
                      4. DrEng527
                        DrEng527 5 January 2021 16: 56
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                        Quote: pytar
                        I will translate the meaning of what has been said in a language you understand - it is not for you to judge me.

                        1) the site is in Russian - it is not correct to use other languages! It would be nice to apologize ...
                        2) I myself decide what to do and your advice is inappropriate.
                        Quote: pytar
                        so it's great! rich countries help those who are poorer!

                        hmm, while you are deprived of the opportunity to earn money yourself - your country will become an eternal debtor ... request however - why do you need independence ... request
                        Quote: pytar
                        in general, the entire "white race" lurks. as well as the Slavic population of the Russian Federation. this is a global trend.

                        You can argue about the reasons, but the pace matters - you have them suicidal ... request
                        Quote: pytar
                        There is no problem to go to work in another country.

                        it's called a brain and hand drain ... request
                        Quote: pytar
                        This means that they are going to return.

                        to live in retirement because yours is cheaper ... and their labor will remain in other countries ...
                        Quote: pytar
                        My advice is not to comment on things you don't know anything about.

                        there was already a discussion and I showed you that you refuse to perceive facts ... and this is a stubborn thing request so I return your thesis to you ... hi
                        Quote: pytar
                        and hundreds of billions continue to flow away ...

                        eka you care about Russia from NATO ... bully For example - I traveled abroad in 2020, and many others ... request
                        Quote: pytar
                        Yes, all that is, does it seem to you not so?

                        my point of view is more important because talk about Russia!

                        Quote: pytar
                        I would be in your place, I would care about the extinction of Russians, about the creeping change in the ethnic composition in the Russian Federation

                        I take an example from you - you are so worried about Russia! bully And here, as I know, the gypsies multiply at a shock ... repeat
                        Quote: pytar
                        You have 10 million women who cannot find men! No fathers for children!

                        but our fertility rate is higher ... hi and women are largely to blame - they have invented princes for themselves and want excessive ...
                        Quote: pytar
                        All are interdependent. It really is.

                        I understand that Russian is not native to you and you have misunderstood the GDP! Independence and interdependence are DIFFERENT!
                        Quote: pytar
                        Only in the distorting mirror of a ru-patriot / and in fact a chauvinist / everything looks different.

                        it is always amusing that foreigners consider it possible to teach us even in patriotism ... bully we seem to be overly kind ... hi
                        Quote: pytar
                        Not worth it, Sergei, not worth it.

                        blown away? wink Then my advice to you - do not whine at Russia and you will be happy ... laughing
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 3 January 2021 03: 15
          +2
          Quote: DrEng527
          I saw beggars in all countries, but I have not met the picture you described in Russia ...

          A colleague recently died, begging for trash cans.
          1. DrEng527
            DrEng527 4 January 2021 16: 33
            -1
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            ollega recently died, begging for trash cans.

            drank?
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 4 January 2021 16: 36
              +1
              Quote: DrEng527
              drank?

              No! He was disabled. For some time I worked at the enterprise of the blind. So he's from there. The enterprise was closed two years ago.
    2. Kronos
      Kronos 3 January 2021 01: 07
      +1
      A typical Putin man - we began to dress better.
    3. Gaiful
      Gaiful 7 January 2021 22: 01
      0
      DrEng527, your phrase "... we do not have oligarchs, there are rich, very rich and obscenely rich .." gives out an illiterate oligarchic propagandist who, according to the old propaganda habit, considers all ordinary people to be stupid.
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    1. Gado
      Gado 2 January 2021 20: 46
      +2
      As a well-known Bulgarophobe, I noticed you long ago. But it is better to keep your advice to yourself, and change the river operator, otherwise you look like punks from the backyard with your "corrupt creatures", "awkward formations", "hicks", etc.
  • dedBoroded
    dedBoroded 2 January 2021 14: 47
    +3
    And how can you protect them if something happens? NATO from all sides, the airspace will be closed immediately, the sea is also not an option. Again risking the lives of Russian soldiers for the sake of murky brothers and incomprehensible geopolitical interests? All the same, Russia will not be allowed to gain a foothold there. The experience of the Russian-Turkish and Napoleon wars in this region confirms this even after 200 years.
    1. DrEng527
      DrEng527 2 January 2021 18: 25
      -3
      Quote: dedBoroded
      And how can you protect them if something happens?

      for many centuries they defended themselves ... just people were different. degenerated ... request
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 January 2021 14: 52
    -4
    Montenegro is spelled Montenegro in English, which is a powerful signal for those who understand ... wassat Given the dwindling fodder base of resources, lowering these to the level of Papua New Guinea is a mistake laughing
  • kochietov1968
    kochietov1968 2 January 2021 15: 04
    -1
    Stop forgiving all the eaters. Is it really not clear on the example of Ukraine how many times these smart-ass traitors and scum were forgiven, rescued and what they got in return from this Bandera scum?
    1. Gaiful
      Gaiful 7 January 2021 22: 07
      -1
      kochietov1968, thanks for the information. Didn't I know what to do with Moscow and the Moscow region? The people habitually continue to forgive these eaters and do not lend themselves to re-education.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 January 2021 15: 18
    -4
    Quote: Undecim
    The country that got scared. The pernicious landmarks of "brotherly" Montenegro
    Another agitation, while the author of this fiery opus is completely unaware of the issue, simply sculpts the hunchback against the wall.
    For a start it is very useful to look at the map of Europe and the place of Montenegro on it.

    And where, given such a geography and such a political map of Europe, should a country half the size of the Ivanovo region drift?
    According to the mentioned MP Andriy Mandic, the elected opposition parties, in fact, deceived their citizens. Came to power on pro-Russian slogans,
    The author at least bothered to familiarize himself with the list of "opposition parties" and tried to find "pro-Russian slogans" in their election program.

    Oh, they made fun of those "proud freedom-loving" whom they were once there was no trace left.laughing Enough to feed the Russian man in the street with fables about some kind of "brothers". A whip and a good price tag on the forehead works much better.
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 2 January 2021 21: 09
      +5
      To begin with, you would have to tighten up grammar, and you would go into geopolitics right away.
    2. Gaiful
      Gaiful 7 January 2021 22: 12
      -1
      Gennady Fomkin, that's right. So, in the opinion of our oligarchs, they need to be educated. I remember the story of a simple Russian lady Saltychikha.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 January 2021 15: 20
    -2
    “The EU sanctions against Russia, which Montenegro has joined, are not Montenegrin sanctions, but the decision to join them is the result of the commitments made as a candidate in the EU integration process to join the common foreign and security policy of the European Union. Russia mirrored Montenegro's response, and we understand that. The sanctions do not make us happy, but this decision was not initially in our hands. " laughing
  • DrEng527
    DrEng527 2 January 2021 15: 49
    -1
    Their country, their choice, their consequences ... request
  • Jaromir
    Jaromir 2 January 2021 18: 02
    +7
    The pernicious landmarks of "brotherly" Montenegro

    Montenegro, like Serbia and Macedonia, is surrounded by our enemies from the EU and NATO. Russia has no influence on these countries. He does not pursue his policy among them (we have not even worked out any idea). So what do we want from Montenegro as a result? That they would be pro-Russian? What have we done for this?
  • Jaromir
    Jaromir 2 January 2021 18: 05
    +7
    However, Montenegrins have not yet been accepted into the EU.

    Maybe they will, or maybe not ... The main thing for the EU is that the Europeans have put anti-Russian forces at the head of Montenegro.
  • Jaromir
    Jaromir 2 January 2021 18: 07
    +1
    Milo Djukanovic, the President of Montenegro, knows this best. He has managed to one degree or another to govern the territory since 1991

    Here's a sample of a real dictator. The time will come when the Montenegrins will ask him for everything ...
  • Jaromir
    Jaromir 2 January 2021 18: 09
    +8
    Djukanovic sold his country's sovereignty to Europe, receiving nothing in return

    He just got the benefit in the form of his dictatorship.
  • Growlers
    Growlers 2 January 2021 18: 22
    0
    The country that was sold. However, there are many of them. They will remember Russia when the new owners throw them out as a used pre ......... "banana skin"
  • akarfoxhound
    akarfoxhound 2 January 2021 19: 15
    0
    What nafur brothers? Why are they needed ??? Cut off everything that you can with them and forget forever, completely forever, even if the mattress disappears suddenly - do not forget anything and never!
  • rruvim
    rruvim 2 January 2021 19: 24
    0
    This is not the country that got scared! Was in Montenegro three years ago. The people are quite adequate, Orthodox, they say to the face: "Our vlada is the part of the Mason!"
  • Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 2 January 2021 20: 00
    0
    The author contradicts himself in his own article ...
    For Montenegro, joining NATO in 2017which cannot be called friendly to Russia in any way, was a forced decision.

    и
    The extremely dodgy course of the country's leader was also important. Milo Djukanovic, who has been at the helm for almost 30 years. It was he who pushed the pro-Western orientation of Montenegro and advocated joining NATO..
  • faterdom
    faterdom 2 January 2021 20: 35
    0
    But a hundred years ago, in the Russo-Japanese war, Montenegro was the only one of all who was not afraid of '
    bring war to Japan. Which, however, did not change its course.
    1. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 2 January 2021 22: 24
      +2
      Quote: faterdom
      Montenegro is the only one of all who was not afraid of '
      bring war to Japan.

      good
  • Barmal
    Barmal 2 January 2021 20: 55
    0
    The atoshny Rotara was forgiven - on First, almost immediately after congratulating the President with NG, the President of VVPutin was launched on TV, but they would be forgiven about Montenegro. Good everyone ..
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 January 2021 21: 44
    -5
    Quote: Undecim
    To begin with, you would have to tighten up grammar, and you would go into geopolitics right away.

    And you, dear sir, generally keep quiet, you will pass for a clever one.
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  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 January 2021 22: 00
    -4
    Quote: Undecim
    To begin with, you would have to tighten up grammar, and you would go into geopolitics right away.

    You probably do not know Russian colloquially well. The Big Encyclopedic Dictionary reads: “Mind is the ability of thinking and understanding. In the history of philosophy - the same as the mind, spirit. In Latin, this concept corresponds to "intellect". " However, the concept of "cunning" is omitted in the same dictionary, but in other dictionaries one can find definitions that identify cunning: "Cunning is dexterity, cunning, deceit, trick, deception, wagging, twisted, twist, twist, evasion, trick, grip , reception, lineman, maneuver, machination, tactics, loophole, pretext, sophism, trickery, trick "... The Russian language is so rich laughing
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 2 January 2021 22: 16
      +4
      You should master the grammar, to begin with. And you are for encyclopedic dictionaries ...
    2. Mordvin 3
      Mordvin 3 3 January 2021 03: 20
      +3
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Russian language is so rich

      Eh, Fomkin!
      "Before you is the bulk - the Russian language! .."
    3. Grif
      Grif 4 January 2021 13: 36
      0
      I would also add my opinion. Intelligence is the ability of the mind to solve theoretical problems. Mind is the ability of the mind to solve practical problems. I watch it at work. Tool shop. All people are smart, there are no fools by definition, but I do not observe intellectuals either.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 January 2021 22: 12
    -3
    Quote: akarfoxhound
    What nafur brothers? Why are they needed ??? Cut off everything that you can with them and forget forever, completely forever, even if the mattress disappears suddenly - do not forget anything and never!

    So our Tsar Nikolai, with a scandal, sent two women out. These two women, Militsa Chernogorskaya and Anastasia (Stana) Chernogorskaya, are now almost forgotten, and yet their role in Russian history is very great. It is they, Montenegrin # 1 and Montenegrin # 2, "Montenegrin spiders", as they are popularly called. Sergei Witte: he said "Oh, these Montenegrins, they have done bad things to Russia ...". They dragged all sorts of charlatans rogues to the court. Represented by Montenegrins at court, Rasputin quickly won the trust of the empress and began to play an important role in the highest family.

    The sisters had their own plans for the "elder". With his help, they wanted to influence the Russian monarchs, gaining benefits for themselves and for their homeland, Montenegro. laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 January 2021 22: 17
    -4
    Quote: rruvim
    This is not the country that got scared! Was in Montenegro three years ago. The people are quite adequate, Orthodox, they say to the face: "Our vlada is the part of the Mason!"

    Little do they "say" laughing On vacation, I had the honor to observe the representatives of Montenegro, at first he yelled that his woman had been offended and immediately offered to rent a house. laughing
  • Diverter
    Diverter 2 January 2021 22: 17
    -2
    at the present time, everyone's memory has become too short. Good all Pts quickly forgot. The toughest sanctions should be imposed against such countries. Stop all transport links, close all diplomatic missions, except the embassy. Prohibit all movement of money. Those. no economy and no tourists. No help whatsoever. Nothing.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 January 2021 22: 20
    -5
    Quote: Undecim
    You should master the grammar, to begin with. And you are for encyclopedic dictionaries ...

    I have a program with grammar and spelling corrections laughing
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  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 2 January 2021 23: 12
    -5
    Quote: Saboteur
    at the present time, everyone's memory has become too short. Good all Pts quickly forgot. The toughest sanctions should be imposed against such countries. Stop all transport links, close all diplomatic missions, except the embassy. Prohibit all movement of money. Those. no economy and no tourists. No help whatsoever. Nothing.

    For a long time it is necessary, for one participation, a word, an action directed against Russia should not be unpunished and not give a ride any "kinship" invented for justification and condescension. And we must let the people of Russia decide who to call a brother and who not.
  • Turist1996
    Turist1996 2 January 2021 23: 23
    -2
    "Nafig - this is in-oh-he goes there!" - that's the whole answer must be ..
  • av58
    av58 3 January 2021 02: 39
    -1
    Today's Montenegro is not the Montenegro that supported Russia before the October Revolution and which defiantly declared war on Japan in 1905 as a sign of friendship for Russia.
    We do not have any obligations to the Montenegrins, and if they have found new friends in Europe, let them turn to them for help, and now you can only buy services / goods from Russia.
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    1. Gado
      Gado 3 January 2021 13: 48
      +2
      "sdyrystni", ignoramus.
      1. pytar
        pytar 3 January 2021 23: 42
        -2
        Vasco, don't pay attention to the provocateur. I have it for a long time to ignore. Let him talk to himself. laughing