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A sign with the inscription "Welcome to Azerbaijan" appeared in the Syunik region of Armenia

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A sign with the inscription "Welcome to Azerbaijan" appeared in the Syunik region of Armenia

In the Syunik region of Armenia, a signboard with the inscription "Welcome to Azerbaijan" appeared. As the Ombudsman of Armenia Arman Tatoyan stated, the installation of this signboard by the Azerbaijani military on the Goris-Vorotan highway, as well as the flags of the Azerbaijani republic, is intended to frighten the population of the Syunit region of Armenia.


The Azerbaijani military installed a signboard "welcome to Azerbaijan", on it a map, according to which a significant part of the Syunik region of Armenia and a number of other settlements of Armenia are represented as part of Azerbaijan. The results of the study confirm that this step was taken by Baku by violating the rights of residents of border settlements of Armenia, by openly intimidating them.

- said Tatoyan.

Earlier, Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan stated that the Armenian army retreated to the border of the former Soviet Armenia, so that the controlled territory would coincide with the CSTO responsibility zone. At the same time, he argued that the Azerbaijani military did not enter the territory of the Syunit region, which has now become a border region, but only "approached it."

Clarification of the borders between Azerbaijan and Armenia proceeds on the basis of territorial delimitation in Soviet times. The process takes place by establishing GPS coordinates

- declared Pashinyan.

At the same time, the Ministry of Defense of Armenia stated that the section of the road between Gris and Kapan, as well as Kapan and the village of Chakaten will be controlled by Russian border guards, and the appearance of the Azerbaijani military in this area is caused by the confusion in the process of deploying Armenian, Azerbaijani and Russian border guards.

The situation in the Sunit region worsened after the bordering regions of Nagorno-Karabakh were transferred to Azerbaijan. The local population is concerned about the appearance of the Azerbaijani military near the borders, who, according to them, are making "unreasonable territorial demands", seeking the most advantageous passage of the border for Baku.
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  1. hydroy
    hydroy 29 December 2020 11: 58
    -3
    The funny thing is that most of the army of Nagorno-Karabakh has not been disbanded, and now the process of its modernization is underway, so let's see how long the armistice / peace will last ...
    1. Anar
      Anar 29 December 2020 13: 43
      +1
      She will also be disbanded. Not all at once. Drop by drop the sea gathers ...
      1. hydroy
        hydroy 29 December 2020 13: 48
        -6
        No, they will not disband, there is the task of mobilization as in Switzerland or in Israel. Naturally, there is no offensive weapons and there will be little of it! The main goal is to contain the onslaught and organize a guerrilla war of attrition! So the plans are interesting there.
        1. Anar
          Anar 29 December 2020 13: 56
          +8
          Armenia in its best years was in ... me. Over the past 30 years, it has been fed directly and indirectly by Russian taxpayers (subsidies at the state level, guest workers, agricultural goods). And now she should at least feed herself. Most of the mines with minerals were returned to Azerbaijan. She needs to first pull herself into a pre-war state. And this requires at least 6-7 years.
          And it certainly will not be able to build and create something on the territory of Azerbaijan. Let me remind you that Nagorno-Karabakh is the territory of Azerbaijan.
          1. hydroy
            hydroy 29 December 2020 14: 01
            -2
            Yes, they have .op, and most of the resources passed to Azerbaijan, and they live at the expense of Russia, the way out and this is the end of all conflicts and the creation of a transport infrastructure for the transit of goods, or the production of something like in Japan, now Armenia must pray to Russia. Only Russia will help her like no other! And the danger is created by Azerbaijan with its plans for the "disputable" territories. So it will be interesting whether Azerbaijan stops now or shit on Russia and Iran. Now Armenia has no plans, or rather Armenia will not be able to realize them in the next 5 years, a perfectly almost nailed animal! It will only become more pro-Russian soon, otherwise the Turks will come)
    2. Renator
      Renator 29 December 2020 15: 54
      +2
      Quote: hydroy
      The funny thing is that most of the army of Nagorno-Karabakh has not been disbanded,

      Russia must disband, otherwise it turns out that it deceived Azerbaijan!
    3. g1v2
      g1v2 29 December 2020 17: 55
      -1
      Long. This fight of mountain sheep on the bridge interfered with us for 30 years. Finally, they managed to stop it and the Russian Federation will make every effort so that it does not resume. We need to establish logistics, trade and supply. Well, see what's interesting in the area. We are already restoring the airport near Stepanakert for ourselves. Well, from the Armenians of Karabakh, irregular formations will be formed for our support, and not so that they butt against the Azeri.
      1. hydroy
        hydroy 29 December 2020 20: 07
        -4
        It's one thing when the Russian Federation makes an effort, another when it all can get out of control!
      2. New Balance
        New Balance 30 December 2020 11: 30
        +2
        Without the permission of the Azerbaijan Republic, not a single corn-grower will take off.
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 30 December 2020 14: 13
          0
          Consider that permission has already been received for the next 5 years. Aliyev does not understand at all where the red lines are.
    4. Diverter
      Diverter 29 December 2020 22: 49
      0
      while our guys will stand there it will be relatively quiet. But when they are taken out .... nothing too much will happen. only partisanism.
  2. hydroy
    hydroy 29 December 2020 12: 00
    -3
    Well, about Syunik, this region is an obstacle for Turkey to enter the Caspian Sea, so the loss of this region of Armenia will lead to a significant strengthening of Turkey in the region, and also the loss of disputed lands - the entry of Azerbaijan into NATO or the Mars Block in Russian)
    1. Anar
      Anar 29 December 2020 13: 41
      +6
      So there are no disputed lands there. There is international law, maps. Legally, absolutely all countries and even Armenia considers these lands of Azerbaijan.
      Armenia was not waging a war for disputed territories. Armenia waged a war of conquest. Which has been confirmed many times by their policies.
      1. hydroy
        hydroy 29 December 2020 13: 44
        -6
        Yes, the status of Nagorno-Karabakh has not yet been determined! This stops Azerbaijan from joining the bloc. It is important for Russia to maintain the status quo of Karabakh, otherwise further problems will arise, and the problems are Azerbaijan's revanchism (Zangezur, Sevan, Irevan). Only Russia stops Azerbaijan from a new war! And if it does, there will be peace enforcement! You shouldn't go any further!
        1. Anar
          Anar 29 December 2020 14: 01
          +7
          Thus, Azerbaijan was never going to enter NATO. Even Armenia took part in NATO exercises more than Azerbaijan. Rather, you wanted to say that only thanks to Russia Armenia exists as a country. Therefore, the Armenians should pray for the Russians and not fight,
          1. hydroy
            hydroy 29 December 2020 14: 04
            -5
            Azerbaijan is connected with Israel and Turkey. Turkey is NATO, I did not speak about direct entry, but about the Military Base in Ganja, do you think Iran is stupid and does not understand why it is being created? You think very few people know about Turan's plans, but Turan needs two exits to the Caspian Sea: 1 - By water! (Azerbaijan!), 2 - by land - north of Iran. And then the creation of a new political bloc!
            1. Anar
              Anar 29 December 2020 14: 11
              +2
              And Armenia with France, Greece and most importantly on its territory is the largest US representation in the world. According to your version, it even looks like a betrayal.
              Is there a foreign military base in Ganja? Strange news comes from you. New Armenian epics?)
              Azerbaijan officially declares that there are no foreign military bases on its territory. And so far this is not anyone who could not challenge.
              There is a contingent of military instructors, and this is not a base. These are teachers, roughly speaking.
              1. hydroy
                hydroy 29 December 2020 14: 14
                -5
                Yeah, F-16 for the students left laughing and what else, will the students control the T129 ATAK helicopters too? Continent? And the Turkish peacekeepers with generals are not military? They are not in the trilateral agreement)
                And Ganja will be strengthened with new aircraft, apparently! So don't be ridiculous, Iran perfectly understands why this is being done)
                1. Anar
                  Anar 29 December 2020 14: 19
                  +6
                  5 aircraft is not a base. If you think that 5 planes can scare Iran, and even more so Russia, then you definitely think on the level of Armenians. This Armenia can be forced to surrender by showing them 2 pieces of F-16. For Russia, this is laughter.
                  And you yourself answered your own question. Google it when the exercises with Turkey took place, these F-16s arrived with instructors. Like races on the eve of hostilities.
                  1. hydroy
                    hydroy 29 December 2020 14: 25
                    -6
                    Already 5 planes have been recognized, well done, 5 planes are a snack for air defense, but the main dish on the peninsula of Asia Minor, but Iran can be bombed not only from Azerbaijan, but there is a danger from there!
                    1. Anar
                      Anar 29 December 2020 14: 29
                      +3
                      5 aircraft that are parked are not a base.
                      The base is Inzhirlik, the base is Gyumryu .....
                      You don't need a big mind, google on the Internet what a military base is, and what infrastructure should be there for it to be called a base.
                      If you are guided by your words, all of Armenia is one continuous base)
                      1. hydroy
                        hydroy 29 December 2020 14: 30
                        -3
                        You don't need a big mind, to understand that your teachers will sit at the wheel during the operation, and the students will prepare everything for this performance. As you say: Two states - one nation, yeah)
                      2. Peter rybak
                        Peter rybak 3 January 2021 08: 49
                        -1
                        Quote: hydroy
                        You don't need a big mind, to understand that your teachers will sit at the wheel during the operation, and the students will prepare everything for this performance. As you say: Two states - one nation, yeah)

                        I have carefully read your correspondence with Anar. You lose on all planes and answer only according to the principle "he is like that". You have already been poked into the facts, and you are all cockerel.
                      3. hydroy
                        hydroy 3 January 2021 13: 13
                        -1
                        Well, explain why all of a sudden the F-16 planes stayed in Ganja, explain why Turkey now wants to invest in a civilian airport and, under a "humanitarian" pretext, is sending military there! And why would Iran conduct air defense exercises on the border with Azerbaijan? Do you consider it normal to find military aircraft and military pilots in a country neighboring Russia. Turkey is NATO, let me remind you that NATO was created to repel the threat of communism and the USSR in particular. After the collapse of the Warsaw Pact and the USSR and the move eastward - against Russia and also against the growing China. Don't seem stupid or distort the facts. The Turks are setting up military bases in Libya and Azerbaijan. And these are not civilian bases. And the fact that Russia is losing Azerbaijan is already evident! A little more time will pass and Aliyev will be removed by the hands of nationalists, and after we brought troops into Karabakh, evil tongues will easily shake the situation in Azerbaijan and a serious military base of the NATO country - Turkey will appear in Ganja ...
                      4. Peter rybak
                        Peter rybak 3 January 2021 16: 47
                        0
                        And what of it? Azerbaijan itself chooses with whom it follows. It is no secret that almost all the republics of the post-Soviet space have more than swallowed the presence of their older brother and are rushing to go to hell. I wonder why?
                      5. hydroy
                        hydroy 3 January 2021 17: 18
                        0
                        Because they do not want to be with the Russians who were being persecuted, after the fall of Russian influence, the local princes and peoples wanted to "live" on their own! And Azerbaijan also chooses, only Turkey is strongly imposed!
                      6. Peter rybak
                        Peter rybak 18 January 2021 21: 38
                        0
                        Quote: hydroy
                        Because they do not want to be with the Russians who were being persecuted, after the fall of Russian influence, the local princes and peoples wanted to "live" on their own! And Azerbaijan also chooses, only Turkey is strongly imposed!

                        Do you even read what you write before clicking the "Submit" button? Your conclusions collide with each other and destroy any logical thread.
                2. hydroy
                  hydroy 3 January 2021 13: 14
                  0
                  Well, now there is pressure on Iran, Turkey will also be able to take part in this pressure so that the NATO alliance does not change again! Massacre is being prepared for Iran! There are 17 days left - these 17 days are H time!
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            3. hydroy
              hydroy 29 December 2020 15: 38
              -4
              Iran to hold major air defense exercises

              Iranian telegram channel Azariha reports that the scenario of an air attack and its subsequent repulsion by air defense forces will be played out at the exercises, which will take place on January 10.

              The exercises will be held in the provinces of Ardabil, East and West Azerbaijan (these are the regions bordering on Turkey and Azerbaijan).

              By the way, these exercises are a landmark event, because Tehran reacted very harshly to the statements of Turkish President Recep Erdogan at the parade in Baku
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 29 December 2020 15: 13
    -6
    So after all, we can turn on the "Baku is ours!"
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 29 December 2020 15: 19
      -7
      We can, only we need a hidden one from Europe - 1, the second from Turkey, of course, it would be beneficial to support Iran, a coalition, it's one thing to bomb Georgia with its 20, another Azerbaijan with its 100) and at the same time, the Azeris have more interesting resources than Georgians ... But I agree, if they turn on the Zanguzur Bizimdir or Irevan Bizimdir regime, it is necessary to answer about Baku)
      1. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 29 December 2020 15: 22
        -4
        Quote: hydroy
        hidden behind the. business from Europe

        We have a gas valve in our hands.
        Quote: hydroy
        from Turkey

        We threaten to close our market for Turkish goods. They definitely won't get off with tomatoes.
        At the same time, we will replace import.
    2. Peter rybak
      Peter rybak 3 January 2021 08: 52
      -1
      Quote: Narak-zempo
      So after all, we can turn on the "Baku is ours!"

      laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
      What part of your body are you talking about, if not a secret? What do you think of our country? We ourselves still need to get up off our knees, decide on the minimum wage, and live up to retirement.
      1. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 3 January 2021 09: 14
        0
        Quote: Peter Rybak
        We ourselves still need to get up from our knees, decide on the minimum wage, and live to retire.

        First, collecting lands. This is generally the only way to "rise from your knees."
        1. Peter rybak
          Peter rybak 3 January 2021 09: 19
          -1
          Quote: Narak-zempo

          First, collecting lands. This is generally the only way to "rise from your knees."

          Well, we collected from Chukotka to Dagestan, from Konigsberg to the Kuriles. And what? What to do with this collected. Where could all the juices have already been sucked. Our oligarchs are pumping out the last drops of the juice of the lands of the Chukchi, Nenets, Eskimos and many other peoples, whom our imperial policy has reduced to almost zero. We have already grabbed from 1917 to 1991. How did it end? Apparently, you do not quite understand the internal situation in the country. You are still sure that the people will rush to defend this power in unison. I note with regret that we now have neither the strength, nor the ability, nor the desire of the people to collect. To save what is.
  • New Balance
    New Balance 30 December 2020 11: 31
    +2
    There will be no status. This issue is closed forever.
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 30 December 2020 12: 37
      -3
      Don't say gop)
    2. hydroy
      hydroy 30 December 2020 12: 38
      -2
      "The status of Nagorno-Karabakh is outside the brackets, this requires additional negotiations. We certainly count on the efforts of the OSCE, the President of France, the United States and other states that are involved in the process of the Nagorno-Karabakh settlement. There is still a very difficult work to do," Matvienko said.

      Read on WWW.KP.RU: https://www.kp.ru/online/news/4130905/
      1. Peter rybak
        Peter rybak 3 January 2021 08: 53
        0
        Quote: hydroy
        "The status of Nagorno-Karabakh is outside the brackets, this requires additional negotiations. We certainly count on the efforts of the OSCE, the President of France, the United States and other states that are involved in the process of the Nagorno-Karabakh settlement. There is still a very difficult work to do," Matvienko said.

        Read on WWW.KP.RU: https://www.kp.ru/online/news/4130905/

        A very serious media and a very serious politician.
        1. hydroy
          hydroy 3 January 2021 13: 06
          0
          In fact, this is a politician who says what is agreed, no matter what it is - he conveys the thoughts of the Kremlin to the world community and Azerbaijan!
  • Lyuba1965_01
    Lyuba1965_01 30 December 2020 22: 49
    +1
    Azerbaijan is quite satisfied with the non-aligned status.
    Turkey is allies - yes, but Azerbaijan does not aspire to NATO. Apparently, Baku wants to have good relations with everyone, not joining either side. The position is good, but, unfortunately, the situation in the world is now such that any small country needs to decide with whom it is. Now in Azerbaijan there is almost no gravitation towards NATO and everything depends on Russia, how it will behave in relation to Azerbaijan and how the Russians will behave in relation to the Muslim Azerbaijanis. At the moment, the attitude of ordinary Russians towards Muslim Azerbaijan, to put it mildly, is not very friendly, Russians are more worried about Armenia and Armenians. And it is this attitude that can play a decisive role in where the people of Azerbaijan want to go further.
    1. hydroy
      hydroy 30 December 2020 23: 18
      -2
      To put it mildly, most of the side for whom! They are watching with interest, but honestly, if only they do not hook their own people, and Azerbaijan, of course, has already clearly decided with whom it is. Turkey keeps them in tough paws ... It's hard for Russia to compete, common history and mutually beneficial trade save it!
  • Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 29 December 2020 12: 03
    +6
    Are we proud or sad? And then somehow it was purple until now, who of the parties crushed the market trade.
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 29 December 2020 13: 18
      +6
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      Are we proud or sad? And then somehow it was purple until now, who of the parties crushed the market trade.

      In principle, everything is fine. The winner takes it all. And the Aram had to show less.
      1. three
        three 29 December 2020 14: 06
        0
        They are that those that those - all pantyhose. One by one - it seems people are like people ... As soon as at least two - already a noisy ara-azero bazaar ..
  • Ramiz Babayev
    Ramiz Babayev 29 December 2020 12: 20
    +11
    when you read such news, you simply wonder if this is either not competence, or deliberately injecting deliberately false information for people who do not know the essence of the issue. The fact is that part of the road from one settlement of Armenia to another partly passes through the territory of Azerbaijan, the relief there is such, the nature has been built up. While the Zangelan region of Azerbaijan was under the occupation of Armenia, the issue of movement did not arise. After the liberation from the Armenian army, this question arose, because it is necessary to go through the territory of Azerbaijan, and considering what Armenia has done in Azerbaijan and the Armenians themselves are well aware of this, it is simply fear. And of course, Azerbaijan can install ANY type of transport on its territory. This is his legal right. We do not claim the territory of Armenia, as they call Syunik. Although this is Zangezur and more than 200 thousand Azerbaijanis were expelled from there in December 1987, and no one gave them time, until Sumgait ...
    1. iouris
      iouris 29 December 2020 12: 44
      -1
      Quote: Ramiz Babayev
      more than 200 thousand Azerbaijanis were expelled from there in December 1987

      What was in the past and the century before last is irrelevant. We are not talking about the restoration of some kind of "justice". Those who have suffered will not receive anything. War is a struggle for the economic interests of those who are relevant today. Reveal and show that interest. Then it will be clear who and why is organizing the massacre ("just war").
      1. Ramiz Babayev
        Ramiz Babayev 29 December 2020 13: 13
        +9
        The interest is in returning the territories occupied by Armenia according to the recognized borders, so that more than 700 thousand refugees return to their homes, or rather to their homes, because the ancient people destroyed everything and tried to make sure that there was no trace of Azerbaijanis in the occupied territories ... it was impossible to forget, one must always remember and learn lessons.
      2. Peter rybak
        Peter rybak 3 January 2021 09: 05
        0
        Quote: iouris
        Quote: Ramiz Babayev
        more than 200 thousand Azerbaijanis were expelled from there in December 1987

        What was in the past and the century before last is irrelevant.

        In the "centuries before last", wherever it went, one can agree. But in the last century was the Second World War and our victory over Germany. Have you forgotten about this, or is the forgetfulness of history related only to individual states?
        It was in the last century that most of the historical events took place, which our people are proud of and due to which our government is tirelessly promoting.
  • izGOI
    izGOI 29 December 2020 12: 25
    +7
    The situation in the Sunit region worsened after the bordering regions of Nagorno-Karabakh withdrew to Azerbaijan.
    And when did the Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast border on Armenia ??? So the whole article smacks of Armenian fake provocation.
    1. Guru
      Guru 29 December 2020 13: 01
      -10%
      So the whole article smacks of Armenian fake provocation.
      It smells like Azrbaydjan TROLL from you.
  • Anar
    Anar 29 December 2020 13: 35
    +5
    So the sign was placed on the territory of Azerbaijan.
    Until 1995, the Syunik region did not exist. Then there was the Zangezur region. But due to the fact that Zangezur is an Azerbaijani word in 1995, Armenia, having changed its borders (by annexing part of the occupied territories of Azerbaijan), called this region the Syunik region. over the past 25 years, the population of Armenia has become accustomed to new borders.
    After the end of the war, Azerbaijan restored its borders to the lines that were indicated in the maps of the USSR and accepted by the international community.
    Thus, just these signs are on the territory of Azerbaijan, and this sign and flags are quite natural.
    The Armenians are again trying to pass off the lies for the truth, adding drama to it. Fortunately, every day fewer and fewer people believe them.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 29 December 2020 14: 00
    +8
    Quote: Guru
    So the whole article smacks of Armenian fake provocation.
    It smells like Azrbaydjan TROLL from you.

    There is no limit to human ignorance. Many people here, including you, do not have an elementary understanding of events, incl. and about the geographical position of Nagorno-Karabakh, Armenia and Azerbaijan (which the Armenians use) and try to judge the events thoughtfully.
    You will break away from admiring the globe of Armenia and take a look at the map of Nagorno-Karabakh of Azerbaijan and Armenia. Nagorno-Karabakh does not border on Armenia, it is separated from Armenia by the Lachin region of Azerbaijan (far from Kafan and the neighboring Zangelan region of Azerbaijan).
    Syunik Marz (where the city of Kafan is located) of Armenia DOES NOT BORDER with Nagorno-Karabakh (former NKAO). Between Syunik (Kafan) there are 3 (!) Regions of Azerbaijan not related to Karabakh at all - this is the Zangelan region of Azerbaijan, after it comes the Kubadly region of Azerbaijan, and only after it the Jebrail region, which borders the former NKAO (Hadrut). All these three Azerbaijani regions were captured in the 90s by the invasion from Armenia.
    The signboard "Welcome to Azerbaijan" is located strictly IN THE LIMITS (at the entrance) of the internationally recognized Azerbaijani territory Zangelan region of Azerbaijan in accordance with the administrative division of the union republics of the USSR times. It was within the borders of their union republics that Armenia and Azerbaijan were recognized.
    It is strange that the Armenian government recognizes this, but in this provocative and deceitful article, everything is simply childishly primitively twisted.
    1. Guru
      Guru 29 December 2020 14: 13
      -8
      There is no limit to human ignorance. Many people here, including you, do not have an elementary understanding of events, incl. and about the geographical position of Nagorno-Karabakh, Armenia and Azerbaijan (which the Armenians use) and try to judge the events thoughtfully.

      Human Ignorance -There is a limit, but not Ignorance, but understanding. It is the understanding - do not be surprised.
      Most of Azerbaijan Historically, it is not Azerbaijan. And if you are so enlightened, show me a map of Azerbaijan before 1917. I can do it for you.
      This will suit you; (clickable)

      Therefore, regarding the primordial Azerbaijani lands, you are clearly burned out.
      Enlightened you are ours.
      But whose Elizavetpolskaya province?
      1. Anar
        Anar 29 December 2020 14: 33
        0
        Well, let's go to the times of Genghis Khan ..... Look how big Mongolia was in those days.
      2. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 29 December 2020 15: 33
        -3
        Quote: Guru
        But whose Elizavetpolskaya province?

        Russian. And nobody else can be.
      3. Renator
        Renator 29 December 2020 15: 50
        +3
        Quote: Guru
        Most of Azerbaijan Historically is not Azerbaijan

        And now Azerbaijan!
      4. Isaak_kush
        Isaak_kush 1 January 2021 10: 38
        -1
        No, this "card a" is bullshit.

        Admire this
      5. Albay
        Albay 1 January 2021 17: 41
        -2
        And before 1917, show where was the Armenian republic?
        In general, the legal successor of which state was the Armenian republic, created in 18, why do Armenians call themselves hays and their country Hayastan?
        The enlightened one was found))
        For the last 600 years, there was no smell of Armenian or any Khai state in these lands)
      6. Peter rybak
        Peter rybak 3 January 2021 09: 12
        0
        Quote: Guru

        Most of Azerbaijan Historically, it is not Azerbaijan.

        Most of Russia is not Russia. Look at maps of the 16-17th century. I do not send you back to the days of five hundred years ago.
        And whose is the above-named province? Judging by the name - Russian? You judge by the name, dear. You do not have enough knowledge for more. Do you know that there is a city in the Krasnodar Territory called Nakhichevan? Is there Moscow and St. Petersburg in the USA? Is there a village of Switzerland in Bashkiria?
        You are not educated, dear.
  • Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich 29 December 2020 14: 11
    +2
    at least they can't refuse humor
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 29 December 2020 14: 15
    +2
    Quote: Guru
    So the whole article smacks of Armenian fake provocation.
    It smells like Azrbaydjan TROLL from you.

    Here is a map of the former NKAO (painted blue) the territory of Azerbaijan proper is painted in red, including. and Zangilan region and other occupied Azerbaijani regions. As you can see, the Zangelan region, like the Syunik region of Armenia, is located quite far from Nagorno-Karabakh.
    http://jam-news.net/app/uploads/2016/04/AKA-map-3-RUS-1-1024x832.jpg
    1. Guru
      Guru 29 December 2020 14: 25
      -3
      Scorpio05 (Scorpio)
      Today, 14: 15
      Here is your map:

      My comment hi
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      2. Anar
        Anar 29 December 2020 14: 35
        0
        Quote: Guru
        My comment

        http://vlastitel.com.ru/chingis/map_mongols.html
        1. Guru
          Guru 29 December 2020 14: 57
          -4
          Anar (Anar)
          Today, 14: 35
          Especially for you - educate yourself hi
          https://proza.ru/2012/03/14/103

          I especially liked the phrase:
          This area in Anatolia (Turkey) is the historical site of the kingdom of Urartu, where the ancestors of modern Armenians lived. The tribes of modern Armenians left Egypt at the same time when the ancestors of the Jews came out of captivity - 1240 - 1200. BC, - the Semites were in captivity, which include both Armenians and Jews, and other Semitic peoples.
      3. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 29 December 2020 15: 26
        -1
        Quote: Guru
        My comment

        Soviet Iran?
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 29 December 2020 14: 38
    +4
    Quote: Guru
    There is no limit to human ignorance. Many people here, including you, do not have an elementary understanding of events, incl. and about the geographical position of Nagorno-Karabakh, Armenia and Azerbaijan (which the Armenians use) and try to judge the events thoughtfully.

    Human Ignorance -There is a limit, but not Ignorance, but understanding. It is the understanding - do not be surprised.
    Most of Azerbaijan Historically, it is not Azerbaijan. And if you are so enlightened, show me a map of Azerbaijan before 1917. I can do it for you.
    This will suit you; (clickable)

    Therefore, regarding the primordial Azerbaijani lands, you are clearly burned out.
    Enlightened you are ours.
    But whose Elizavetpolskaya province?

    What are you talking about?) Have you read Armenian textbooks for elementary school children?)
    The Elizavetpol province is the former Ganja Beylerbei, or Ganja Khanate.
    At different times it was included in the Azerbaijani state formations: the Seljuks, the Great Atabeks of Azerbaijan, the states of Karakoyunlu, Akkoyunlu, Safavids, etc. Azerbaijan was called by different names, and quite interchangeable. For example, the first administrative center - the capital of the state "Atabekan Azerbaijan" was the city of Ganja. As you can see the name Azerbaijan is mentioned, and Ganja was the center of the Arran province, earlier the center of this province at different times was Barda (Partav) and other cities of Azerbaijan. And what's the difference how and what was called, what kind of Armenian small-scale approach)?) The state of the Germans for a long time was called the "Holy Roman Empire" and only in the 19th century. began to be called Germany)) And China in general by the name of the dynasties that ruled there) Who cares?
    Here is a nice map of Peter's times here.
    https://globall.az/losh/3133-starye-karty-kavkaza-gde-net-armenii-i-armyan.html
    1. Guru
      Guru 29 December 2020 14: 53
      -1
      Well, a colleague made fun laughing
      https://globall.az/losh/3133-starye-karty-kavkaza-gde-net-armenii-i-armyan.html
      Azerbaijani site claiming that there were never Armenians?
      OLD CARDS OF THE CAUCASUS WHERE THERE ARE NO ARMENIA AND ARMENIANS

      Are you serious belay
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 29 December 2020 15: 31
    -1
    Warning to all parties to the conflict
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 29 December 2020 15: 48
    +5
    Yerevan khachi do not get tired of punching the bottom. Persistent. Kaklov has not yet caught up, but they are trying.  laughing
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 29 December 2020 18: 01
    0
    Quote: Guru
    Well, a colleague made fun laughing
    https://globall.az/losh/3133-starye-karty-kavkaza-gde-net-armenii-i-armyan.html
    Azerbaijani site claiming that there were never Armenians?
    OLD CARDS OF THE CAUCASUS WHERE THERE ARE NO ARMENIA AND ARMENIANS

    Are you serious belay

    They write only what they see on the old Russian map.
  • Diverter
    Diverter 29 December 2020 22: 55
    +2
    NK is the territory of Azerbaijan. Whether someone likes it or not. It is a fact. Armenia in 90 greyhounds grabbed a piece of a foreign country. Azerbaijan has learned the lesson, prepared and struck back. I did everything right. That's what he got close to the Turks and not with us it's bad. A big omission from the Foreign Ministry.
    1. Albay
      Albay 1 January 2021 17: 47
      -1
      Saboteur. This is not an omission of the Foreign Ministry, but a completely conscious policy of the Russian state during the times of Gorbachev and Yeltsin. And even now, it is enough to look at the programs of Solovyov and Sheinin to understand what's what.