"What is this alliance": Vietnam reacts negatively to words about the purpose of the appearance of a US Navy destroyer south of Ho Chi Minh City

On the eve of the "Military Review" reported how the American warship "John McCain" appeared in the waters south of Vietnamese Ho Chi Minh. At the same time, the American military command explained the maneuvers of the US Navy destroyer as follows: "These are steps to challenge the excessive Vietnamese claims to the water area south of the port of Ho Chi Minh." The US also added that it "provided security for civilian shipping," without specifying how Vietnam is interfering with this shipping today.

Meanwhile, such statements by US Navy officials and the very appearance of an American destroyer near the Con Dao Islands are being commented on in Vietnam itself. Words about "excessive Vietnamese claims to the waters south of Ho Chi Minh City" caused a negative reaction among the Vietnamese.

It is noted that "it is necessary to draw conclusions about the friends and enemies of Vietnam" against the backdrop of events near Con Dao. At the same time, the emphasis is placed on the following episode: at the moment when the American destroyer "took steps to challenge Vietnamese claims," ​​the Indian Navy ship "Kiltan" delivered tons of humanitarian aid to the Vietnamese port of Nha Rong (still in Ho Chi Minh City). This is humanitarian aid to the regions of Vietnam affected by the floods and pandemic.

Also ships of the naval fleet Vietnam conducted two-day maneuvers in the South China Sea together with the ships of the Indian Navy.

In Vietnam, Indian aid was appreciated:

The Indian Navy is delivering humanitarian aid to our people, and the US, calling itself our ally, is staging a demonstration of military might off our shores. What is this alliance ...

Comments

[silverwolf88]

They somehow quickly forgot who killed them, bombed and burned them with napalm ... and then the United States reminded them ... perhaps the Vietnamese leadership needs to look more soberly at relations with the United States? ...

[Aerodrome]

Quote: silberwolf88

they somehow quickly forgot who killed them, bombed and burned them with napalm

the Japanese do not mind ...

[Flashpoint]

Japan has a special tradition of BDSM

[Land defence]

Now TV is engaged in education. And there are 90% star-striped ears

[Castro Ruiz]

JP do stekh por pod okupaciey sionSHA.

[uralant]

Quote: Aerodrome

the Japanese do not mind ...

Japan is still under occupation. Here what really! Therefore, they came up with the idea that the USSR dropped a bomb on them.

[Anachoret]

the Japanese do not mind ...

the colonies are not asked for their opinion. they agreed to become a colony in exchange for maintaining nominal local authority in the form of the emperor and his loyal daimyo.

[Hunter 2]

There, the whole question is about money, the resort area of ​​Vietnam is in great demand among US citizens, brings Vietnam a good income and investments for its development. Ideologically, Vietnam and the United States, as they were opponents, remain so.
It is also worth considering the rather difficult relationship between Vietnam and China, multiplied by territorial disputes, the last war between them was in 1979.
From here it is not clear what the Mattress Makers really wanted to achieve? It is clear that they achieved nothing except "irritation".

[Insurgent]

«What is this alliance": Vietnam reacts negatively to the words about the purpose of the appearance of the US Navy destroyer south of Ho Chi Minh City.

Natural reaction. Only 45 years have passed since the end of the war, and the memory has remained.



Perhaps some forces in Vietnam itself wanted a different reaction from society, but the mass of still living veterans and victims of American aggression will not, at least for now, fulfill such desires.

[businessv]

Quote: Insurgent

Perhaps some forces in Vietnam itself wanted a different reaction from society, but the mass of still living veterans and victims of American aggression will not, at least for now, fulfill such desires.

Stripes in Japan used nuclear weapons, but today they are best friends. Everything in this world is relative.

[hydrox]

Who told you that about friends? Find some free time, spit on this place.
Japan is a completely occupied country, and the Japanese cannot sneeze without the permission of the Americans.

[businessv]

Quote: hydrox

Japan is a completely occupied country, and the Japanese cannot sneeze without the permission of the Americans.

Этим заявлением Вы никому новости не сказали. У Японии был выбор в начале 50-х,они его сделали. Если интересно, читайте тут https://share.america.gov/ru/%D1%81%D1%88%D0%B0-%D1%8F%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D1%85%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%81/
Today what you call occupation is called Mutually Beneficial Cooperation in the world

[hydrox]

Sorry, but the liberal world can continue to walk on all fours and without pants, and let me call things by their own names, and not nicknames, "chasers"

[businessv]

Quote: hydrox

but let me call things by their proper names, and not by nicknames, "chasers"

It was ironic, colleague! It is a pity that they did not go to the link. An interesting article from my point of view. A look at situevina from the position of minke whales.

[hydrox]

Take a closer look: everything that is built on mutually beneficial cooperation falls apart in one, two times: this is the US with China and Southeast Asia, this is the EU's relationship with ALL Young Europeans, look at the consequences of sanctions for liberal Russia, which most of all in the world wanted to participate in "mutually beneficial cooperation" ...

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Hunter 2

From here it is not clear what the Mattress Makers really wanted to achieve? It is clear that they achieved nothing except "irritation".

yes, as it were ... "divide and conquer" has not been canceled.

[novel66]

Lesha. Hello! but it's good when you have destroyers like fool candy wrappers? where he wanted - he sent there (except for the Northern Sea Route )

[paul3390]

Interestingly - and all US possessions in the Pacific Ocean are not excessive American claims for an hour? It is an order of magnitude further from mainland America to them than from Vietnam to Con Dao ...

[Alex777]

From here it is not clear what the Mattress Makers really wanted to achieve?

The states need 2, quite obvious things.
1.They have long wanted to take Cam Ranh for themselves.
2. To spoil the relations of the Russian Federation with Vietnam.
Vietnam refused to transfer Cam Ranh to them.
He buys ships, submarines and other weapons.
So he feels the policy of the carrot and stick.

[Svetlana]

Not really fast. A different generation has actually grown up. Another generation has grown up in that war, which did not take part. And instead of Russian in schools, they are already learning English and they want to go not to Moscow, but to New York and on their screens, like here, Hollywood.
With the change of generations, our attitude towards the Germans also changed. (although more time has passed)

[businessv]

Quote: Svetlana

With the change of generations, our attitude towards the Germans also changed. (although more time has passed)

Yes, we always had a normal attitude towards the Germans, the people had nothing to do with it, we also had the German Republic. The attitude towards Nazism has not changed, thank God.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Svetlana

With the change of generations, our attitude towards the Germans also changed.

How, how ... With regard to East Germans (GDR), the attitude is both
to the state, the nation, freed from the darkness of Nazism and embarked on the path of building socialism, was set by the Soviet ideology itself, in relation to West Germans, the rhetoric was also not misanthropic.

So why doesn't the attitude change, especially over the years?

Another thing is that somebody wants to reconsider the attitude towards Nazism ...

[businessv]

Quote: Insurgent

Another thing is that some people want to revise their attitude towards Nazism ...

You are not the co-author of the song, which contains the words "... maybe someone, here and there, sometimes ..."? (C) Express your thoughts more clearly, dear! Who exactly wants it? Appearances, passwords ...? (C)

[hydrox]

Not only has our attitude towards the Germans changed for the better (their Nazism is prosecuted by law), but our attitude towards the Ukrainians has also changed (Nazism flourishes there) - so that the balance in the world is maintained, I'm only afraid that the results will be very similar.

[businessv]

Quote: hydrox

the balance in the world is maintained, I'm only afraid that the results will be very similar.

One cannot but agree with this!

[Shiva83483]

This is bad .... "ivans", not remembering kinship ... and when there will be a repetition, God forbid, they will immediately remember who? Will we guess?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: silberwolf88

They somehow quickly forgot who killed them, bombed and burned them with napalm ... and then the United States reminded them ... perhaps the Vietnamese leadership needs to look more soberly at relations with the United States? ...

It is also symbolic here that a battleship named after John McCain appeared in Vietnamese waters, the same one that the Vietnamese shot down in the sky over Vietnam and fed fried grasshoppers for several years. He is still a "friend" of the Vietnamese people.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Nyrobsky

It is also symbolic here that a battleship named after John McCain appeared in Vietnamese waters, the same one that the Vietnamese shot down in the sky over Vietnam and fed fried grasshoppers for several years. He is still a "friend" of the Vietnamese people.

Senator McCain didn't make a name on board.
This EM URO was named after two other McCains - his grandfather and father, admirals, WWII participants (grandfather fought on aircraft carriers, father - on submarines). However, dad managed to be noted in the Vietnam War.

[Nikon O'Conor]

The ship is named after not "the same", but in honor of his father and his grandfather.
Otherwise, you are right - symbolically))

[TermNachTer]

And they also need to know that mattress makers do not have partners - there are only "sixes", and when there is no need, they forget about the "six")))

[iouris]

Quote: silberwolf88

.. perhaps the Vietnamese leadership needs to take a more sober view of relations with the United States?

Would you advise your management?

[Real Pilot]

Yeah ... With allies like that, you don't need enemies!

Union of foxes and chickens, wolves and sheep ...

[Anachoret]

the stomach has a short memory,
who feeds is a friend / owner

[Maks winter]

however, just like Japan at one time ...

[Runway]

Then the vietas should beat the Montagnards and the Yuzhkors (as well as the descendants of the AYUV specialists).

[Mavrikiy]

the US, calling itself our ally, is organizing a demonstration of military power off our shores. What is this alliance ...

Well, what an ally, such a help. "I would not trust him, he is doubtful." (Pokrovskie gates)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Well, what an ally, such a help. "I would not trust him, he is doubtful."

I remember these allies - this is Lieutenant Kellia in the village of Songmi, from the poisoning of the country by the "orange", these are the blown up dams, and thousands of Vietnamese killed. They had one ally of the USSR who came to the rescue at the most terrible time.

[Mavrikiy]

Well, the dead were millions ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Well, there were millions of deaths ...

This is what the "allies" from the United States did.

[Vladimir_2U]

What allies from the US-vtsev South Vietnam, by the way, where is he?, Only good could tell.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

South Vietnam, by the way, where is he ?, I could tell only good things.

Has resolved, so it happens with a tumor when you hit with any foreign rubbish.

[Magic archer]

It sounds even cynical. John McCain, who fought in Vietnam, who was there in captivity, now shows the Vietnamese their place! Bravo! And this will be a lesson to Vietnam. You are either an ally or a vassal

[Insurgent]

Quote: Magic Archer

It sounds even cynical. John McCain, who fought in Vietnam, who was there in captivity, now shows the Vietnamese their place!

This is a different McCain - dad admiral, but still cynically

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Insurgent

This is a different McCain - dad admiral, but still cynical

That grandfather, that dad, that John McCain. They are all children of Uncle Sam.

[Avior]

in fact, the Vietnamese erected a monument to McCain, who was in captivity

They have long looked at that war in a completely different way.

[uralant]

Quote: Avior

in fact, the Vietnamese erected a monument to McCain, who was in captivity

No wonder. Destroyed 20 aircraft and disabled the aircraft carrier. And you don't need to have such allies and enemies!

[Nikon O'Conor]

I understand that the destroyed equipment belonged to the United States? (I heard about 2 planes, and something vaguely about an aircraft carrier).

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Avior

in fact, the Vietnamese erected a monument to McCain, who was in captivity

Not a monument, but a REMINDER! - about the fact that they fucked them in the tail and in the mane, including Senator McCain, who was in their captivity. These are slightly different commemorative signs.

[Avior]

On this occasion, I met McCain in Vietnam as a dear guest

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Avior

On this occasion, I met McCain in Vietnam as a dear guest

Well, about the "dear guest" you got excited. This is a demonstration of an act of generosity that is comparable to an act of mercy! In this case, the winner demonstrates his loyalty to the defeated opponent.
PS- Today, Afghan mujahideen with nostalgia recall the "shuravi" and seriously think about whether it was necessary to fight those who created and built on Afghan soil, in contrast to the mattresses who only did what they destroyed the little that was left in the legacy from shuravi.

[Avior]

yes, in the form of a reception at the highest level or a warm, joyful embrace with a former enemy.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Avior

yes, in the form of a reception at the highest level or a warm, joyful embrace with a former enemy.

The Americans now also meet with the Taliban and smile at each other in 32 teeth. Do you think they love each other a lot?

[Avior]

accept at the highest level?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Avior

accept at the highest level?

Sergei, given that the Taliban is in the status of a "terrorist organization", any contacts with them occur with the knowledge of the presidential administration, that is, at the highest level and nothing else. And then, under whose roof and with whose mediation - this is already secondary.

[Avior]

the prosecutor also has contacts with the defendant.
And then, under whose roof and with whose mediation - this is already secondary.
I do not want to continue this childish dive.
The fact that the Americans, having restored contacts with Vietnam with McCain's help, now have a very high level of relations, is obvious to me.
But if you have a different opinion, I will not interfere.

[Mykhalych]

At one time, John McCain on his A-4 was shot down in Vietnam by an S-75 air defense missile system, having spent 5 years in captivity ... How do you call a ship that way IT will sail, and ...

[rocket757]

"What is this alliance": Vietnam reacts negatively to words about the purpose of the appearance of a US Navy destroyer south of Ho Chi Minh City

It is noted that "it is necessary to draw conclusions about the friends and enemies of Vietnam" against the backdrop of events near Con Dao.

Oh my God!!! Someone else BELIEVES in the loyalty of such "friends" as minke whales ???

[tihonmarine]

the US, calling itself our ally, is organizing a demonstration of military power off our shores. What is this alliance ...

The United States has only one ally, the interests of American capital.

[Nikon O'Conor]

They do not yet know that every 1st American calls them, the Japanese and the Chinese, not otherwise than yellow macaques. What can we say about the striped military, that's where racism is.

[businessv]

The Indian Navy is delivering humanitarian aid to our people, and the US, calling itself our ally, is staging a demonstration of military might off our shores. What is this alliance ...

McCain, even deceased, cannot leave this country alone. Apparently, he really liked being in captivity! Allies are shitty.

[Nikon O'Conor]

Is the youngest Johnny dead? Looks like I missed something ..

[Jacket in stock]

The Americans clicked on the nose of yet another "ally", showing him a real attitude towards such alliances.
But it is unlikely that the Vieta now have a choice, China is near, Russia prefers to be friends with him, so they will get tired and will bow even lower.

[Yrec]

Let the Vietnamese listen to the song "Phantom", everything is very clear there. We found striped allies for ourselves, one laugh.

[Maks winter]

I run on scorched earth
Hermeshlem slammed on the go.
My "Phantom" with a white arrow,
On the spread wing
With a roar gaining altitude.
My "Phantom" with a white arrow,
On the spread wing
With a roar gaining altitude.

Vizy bluish distance,
It’s just a pity to make it so.
It’s a pity you don’t see her,
Our way is far and far
My Phantom is heading east.

I make a left turn
I'm an executioner now, not a pilot.
Stooping over the scope
And the rockets rush towards the goal
There is another run ahead.

Vizhy in the sky a white line,
My Phantom is losing altitude.
Catapult is salvation
And the sling tension.
Heart in heels, in a corkscrew I go.

Just landed, in an instant
A wild cry rang out from Kyst.
Yellowstone Vietnamese
Weeping in the cysts, like hares,
I fell to the ground and fell silent.

Walking the damned land again
There is no helmet on the head.
Behind the gun barrel
Soldiers poke me in the back
My life is hanging by a thread.

"Who is the pilot who shot me down?" -
One Vietnamese I asked
Answered me that slant that he commanded the interrogation:
"Our pilot Li Si Tsin shot you down"

It is you, the Vietnamese, lying for nothing
I clearly heard in the headset:
"Kolya, press, and I'll cover!"
"Vanya, hit, and I'll cover!"
Russian ace Ivan hit me

Somewhere far away in native Texas
At home, my father and mother are waiting for me
My "phantom" exploded quickly in the sky blue and clear
I can't see you anymore


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[Alien From]

With wolves to live like a wolf howl. The Vietnamese have a short memory.

[aszzz888]

What is this alliance ...

The Vietnamese have found their allies!

[iouris]

They evaluate and react not to words, but to social facts: actions and their (possible) consequences.

[safar gafarov]

Ho Chi Minh City in a coffin no longer knows which side they are turning over, so it spins like a squirrel in a wheel in the name of Vietnamese-American friendship

[Castro Ruiz]

Nu shto vietkongovci, zabili vi istoriu?
SionSSHA eshcho tot soyuznik i drug.

[Klingon]

The Vietnamese need more films on TV about their last war. and how the Soviet Union and China helped them. maybe then they will start making the right friends

[Vladimir Koshevoi]

Slightly "against the grain", at once on the B-52 will fly ... It was already.

[AB]

Vietnam ... From 1965 to 1973 they were hollowed out, hollowed out. Thanks to the USSR and China, they didn't finish. But since 2017, the United States is again an ally and the foundation of defense cooperation is the coincidence of interests of the two countries. It's ridiculous that to screw up China, they conclude agreements with the shittest ally possible, and then they are surprised at the actions of the United States.

[Karen Khoreev]

The United States has no allies ...