Ukrainian Minister announced that Kiev is "looking for a plan B option" for Donbass

In Ukraine, an active discussion continues on how "to do with the Donbass." At the same time, Ukrainian officials made it clear that they were not going to comply with the Minsk agreements. But all the measures are spelled out there.

Against this background, the phrase about the existence of "Plan B" in relation to territories that are not controlled by Kiev is increasingly heard.

Today, the Ukrainian government official, Minister for Reintegration of the so-called temporarily occupied territories (the abbreviation of the ministry speaks for itself - Ministry of Defense and Defense Ministry), Oleksiy Reznikov, shared a statement on Kiev's consideration of "Plan B".

According to Mr. Reznikov, "Plan B" itself is "such a figure of speech."

Reznikov:

For now, we are following the political and diplomatic path to save the life of every citizen of Ukraine.

After that, the Ukrainian minister noted what exactly lies behind the notorious "plan B". According to Reznikov, if "there is an understanding that everything that is being done further is impossible, we will move on to another option."

The minister added that the option "plan B" is "looking for" in Kiev.

It should be added here that earlier other Ukrainian officials declared “Plan B” as a system of force measures. At the same time, some offered to seriously "return Donbass to the jurisdiction of Kiev by force", others stated the need to approach the issue reasonably. The latter believe that any attempt at a violent conflict can lead to irreversible consequences for Ukraine itself, up to the loss of statehood.

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[Mountain shooter]

Seek seek ... Adventure on your ... You will definitely find it. He who seeks finds ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Seek seek.

And he who seeks will always find
Most often lull on your back

[Aerodrome]

Ukrainian Minister announced that Kiev is "looking for a plan B option" for Donbass
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What alphabet do they use?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Aerodrome

What alphabet do they use?

How what? Sumerian of course

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Aerodrome

What alphabet do they use?

How what? Sumerian of course

In the Sumerian alphabet, the answer to the main Skaklat question: "Whose Crimea?" called "Russian". Only the Young Sumerians do not know about this. In general, apart from the textbook of the New Ukrainian language published in Warsaw, they don't know a damn thing and don't want to know ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Zoldat_A

In the Sumerian alphabet, the answer to the main Skaklat question: "Whose Crimea?" called "Russian".

In general, apart from the textbook of the New Ukrainian language published in Warsaw, they don't know a damn thing and don't want to know ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Lipchanin

In general, apart from the textbook of the New Ukrainian language published in Warsaw, they don't know a damn thing and don't want to know ...

140000 years ago - this is incorrect information for you. The Neanderthals are descended from the ancient Ukrainians. That's where the truth is ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Zoldat_A

- this is your incorrect information.

Which have

The Neanderthals are descended from the ancient Ukrainians.

Well, it means "ukronauka" has stepped forward

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Lipchanin

"ukronauka" stepped forward

You can't even imagine how much. Recently I read on the forum, by the way, where professional physicists communicate, that the Ukrainian Academy of Sciences has decided to revise Newton's laws. Based on the fact that under the Soviets they were taught somehow politically. For ten minutes I could not close my mouth, opening with surprise ...

[major147]

The minister added that the option "plan B" is "looking for" in Kiev.

[Anachoret]

Where did you get the black eye under Father's eye?
First there was a word, my son))

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Anchorite

First there was a word, my son))

This is "five", no options ...

[semenov]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Seek seek ... Adventure on your ..

Indeed, these figures would have gone to the front line. Option B would have been found immediately.

[credo]

Quote: Semenov

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Seek seek ... Adventure on your ..

Indeed, these figures would have gone to the front line. Option B would have been found immediately.

With the acquisition of the so-called. independence, in almost all the former republics of the USSR, a large number of frank human d-e-r-m-o surfaced to the top of state power, which flooded all islands of reason, humanity and self-preservation.
Now we are witnessing another misunderstanding and discussing his statements.
Do we need it? He can better solve the pressing problems of his country and take care of his loved ones and relatives, and not waste energy and words on another egg-head, who in Ukraine has turned from a Russian into a servant for the nationalist rabble.

[Gardener91]

Quote: credo

Do we need it? Can better solve the pressing problems of his country and take care of his loved ones

You must Fedya, you must. When many-legged friends and relatives are there.

[URAL72]

It is unlikely. They can shoot, but we cannot. They can be removed from position, driven into outfits, deprived of ridges, and if they got somewhere, investigation.

[Insurgent]

Quote: URAL72

They can be removed from position, driven into outfits, deprived of ridges, and if they got anywhere, investigation.

As I understand, this is the order in the LPR? At least a year ago, our orders were simpler
Punishment, in any way, would have followed - in the form of "suggestion" (purely moral or in conjunction with the physical, but to remove from the position (with whom to replace?), or to deprive of dismissal for this (generally unimaginable / no one will "drag" an already tense drug), or from the trenches (!!!) "drive into outfits"...

Somehow there were attempts to attract sergeants from the front end to watch the car park and the canteen ... The command "ran into" fierce resistance (fair in all respects) the boys, who, seeing that the crowds of idly hanging out at the base itself, "serve" "from divorce until lunchtime," began to write letters of resignation.
At the same time, although the type is both "army" and "charter" (which no one has seen in the trenches, not to study it), the command nevertheless decided not to "sharpen", and thus the question of outfits was removed.

But of course, if you hit it specifically in dill, or "otvetka" was recorded for example by the OSCE ... then yes - INVESTIGATION.

[URAL72]

No, these are the orders in the top five, and yes - from half a year since it began. And the investigation is all about your last paragraph ..

[Insurgent]

Quote: URAL72

No, these are the orders in the top five, and yes - from half a year since it began. And the investigation is all about your last paragraph ..

Ahhh ... I saw how your "athletes" rush around Donetsk, "physically charging". Our command has not yet lived to such insanity
Also, "in line" "Kalmius" walks ... literally stunned from what he saw at their base ...

Once at the training ground, I happened to see how, in the opinion of their command, it should be CORRECTLY equipped soldier:
uniform - only "flora", both in summer and winter, no "slides" and other "non-statutory", no boots "ankle boots", only kirzachi, no kevlar helmets - only steel, body armor - only "turtle" and no other. And a pouch for 4 stores, and no "unloading" ...

Nerds ...

[Real Pilot]

Well, if so ...
For example, the collapse of "Ukraine" in its current form. This is also a possibility and a possibility.

Part of the territories, much larger than Donbass, will go back to Russia. How they were separated from it to "dilute" the rural population of the republic by the proletariat. And then the question will be resolved by itself, and from a political point of view, there will be no one to ask it: if there is no state education, then he will not have any claims.

[vkl.47]

It was necessary to hammer out tightly in Debaltsevo and Ilovaisk, and none of this would have happened.

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Seek seek ...

Well, yes, let them look!
"I am looking for a way out of the gate, -
But there is no it, there is only an entrance, and that is not the one. " (C)

[nnm]

The best and most realistic plan for Ukraine is A, B, C .... n:

[morpogr]

As soon as Plan B is adopted, the DPR and LPR should be recognized immediately. And let them think about their plans alphabetically.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: morpogr

And let them think about their plans alphabetically.

And in a circle

[Keyser soze]

As soon as Plan B is adopted, the DPR and LPR should be recognized immediately.

You don't even know how right you are. You can return territories only by recognizing them and leaving them alone. If Ukrainians live there, they will return to Ukraine, and if there are Russians there, then they will return to Russia and you will not do anything. And there is no need for every power of the territory with a hostile population. Nobody can cope with this in the 21st century. This can only be zanocidit and repopulated, but this will not work now - times are different.

[Russia]

The alphabet will help them, except for "B" there are other letters in order. Something for a long time they procrastinate.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

The amazingly stupid or corrupt authorities of Ukraine.

With them, Russia actually persuaded the DPR and LPR to remain part of Ukraine, but with its own people's militia, Russian as a state language and free trade with Russia, and that's it, the end of the war, that's a compromise, but Kiev is looking for a pretext for a war to involve Russia.

Russia will certainly not stand aside, for Kiev it will not turn out to be anything good. And we will get sanctions, but we will defend our people.

War is inevitable and one must be better prepared for it than in 2014.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

The amazingly stupid or corrupt authorities of Ukraine.

Rather, the first. They are too dumb for the second.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

but Kiev is looking for a pretext for a war to involve Russia.

Not kuev looking for his curators behind a puddle

[Albert1988]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

The amazingly stupid or corrupt authorities of Ukraine.

Yes, they simply and banally make a huge deal in this war! Judge for yourself - HOW MUCH pennies they can steal on everything related to the war! And to the people to hang noodles, that they say everything went to the war, a penny is dumb and so on. And the fact that the war is, in fact, in a duck - it's even better - there is no danger, and money for the defense industry / army supply can be stolen on the same scale! Yes, and all sorts of Natsiks instead of buzzing in "Kyyuva", as if busy with business ...

So there will be NO constructive solutions from the "Krajina authorities" - because they simply will not give up the trough ...

[tikhonov66]

"...
And we will get sanctions, but we will defend our people.
..."
- the trick is that the "sanctions" that we will receive are not determined by what Russia has done or has not done, but trivially - by the OPPORTUNITIES of the "civilized world."
- they can enter - they MUST enter - and a reason - it will always be found ... Hailey like ...
So we have nothing to fear from sanctions DEPENDING ON OUR BEHAVIOR ...

[Zoldat_A]

In my opinion, the Ukrainian "plan B" means "and the hell knows what to do next." Force does not work, but the mind is not enough. Here is "plan B" - where the curve will take ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Here is "plan B" - where the curve will take.

The main thing is that no one understands anything

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: Zoldat_A

Here is "plan B" - where the curve will take.

The main thing is that no one understands anything

Quote from memory

- Why "Y" ?.
-And so that no one would guess ...

Like that kind ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Zoldat_A

In my opinion, the Ukrainian "plan B" means "and the hell knows what to do next."

They don't know exactly. If you take it back, then you need to pay all pensions and benefits, restore the infrastructure. Yes, only one airport in Donetsk, half the budget of Ukraine pulls. It is also impossible to fight to the end, they will declare genocide, and some will go to trial in The Hague. B's plan is one, to do what they are doing for seven years soon.

[Cool but not Igor]

Why do they need an airport, why do they need their pensions in Ukraine itself, but they are trying to play and humiliate residents in front of Russia under the cover of the West, and there is no need to talk about political glasses

[ul_vitalii]

Quote: Zoldat_A

In my opinion, the Ukrainian "plan B" means "and the hell knows what to do next." Force does not work, but the mind is not enough. Here is "plan B" - where the curve will take ...

If the story develops in a spiral, then they develop along the pig's tail, the direction, their development, is not difficult to predict.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: ul_vitalii

pigtail

Everything will end for them on a pig's tail - f ****** y. Just how many skakuas you do not teach - you don’t shake science on your forelocks ...

[rocket757]

I would declare that in Kueva they think .... one could just neigh !!! And so, it is not clear.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: rocket757

And so, it is incomprehensible.

That's what it's designed for

[Baloo]

Quote: rocket757

I would declare that in Kueva they think .... one could just neigh !!! And so, it is not clear.

Ukraine and Kiev are needed by Biden like a mongrel to yap at Russia. That's the whole plan.

[rocket757]

It's not even probable, it's obvious!
Only not where it should have been understood.

[cniza]

I suspect that we will soon see the finish of this "ballet" ...

[rocket757]

It's hard to say ... it has been going on for a long time, but they are still treading the same rake with inspiration! Stubborn or stupid, it doesn't matter. The end of this circus will have to wait.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

I would declare that in Kueva they think .... one could just neigh !!! And so, it is not clear.

It seems to me that even laughing is sinful ...

[rocket757]

There is nothing to be sad about, just wait and see.

[Anachoret]

plan B was definitely somewhere,
was even printed on paper,
but the ministerial toilet ran out of paper and was used more effectively by unidentified ...

[falx]

Well, the former Ukrainian SSR has no alternatives ... any option is bad ...
They do not want and cannot fulfill the Minsk Agreements.
The refusal of Minsk by the former Ukrainian SSR is the actual recognition of the independence of the LPNR. The Russian Federation will, of course, take advantage of this and recognize the Republic de Jure.
The power option will inevitably follow the South Ossetian scenario.
sadness ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Falx

The power option will inevitably follow the South Ossetian scenario

It will not work. Their intestines are thin. They understand very well that now Russia will openly support Donbass
Yes, and Putin directly warned. If they climb, There will be no such thing as a suburb

[falx]

I agree. The "force option" can be regarded as hypothetical.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Falx

can be regarded as hypothetical

"Muscle flexing" to the public

[marchcat]

in Kiev "looking for a plan B option"

Sho, lost? What an opportunity.

[Avior]

It seems that it is necessary to open a new heading Ukraine.
Articles in a row go by: ((((

[Dimka75]

Why rubric?
It's time to rename the VO to UO or VnaO.
At least for these 2 days, the tendency can be traced, out of 20 topics, 8-10 are stable about 404

[tihonmarine]

For now, we are following the political and diplomatic path to save the life of every citizen of Ukraine.

Well, just peacekeepers and innocent children, only who are killing children and old people in the Lao PDR. And the main thing is who do not ask from the Square, everyone says "we do not kill, it was Russia that attacked us." The last time I heard this was on December 24, from a 58-year-old Ukrainian.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: tihonmarine

The last time I heard this was on December 24, from a 58-year-old Ukrainian.

30 years old they were washed

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

30 years old they were washed

And they are trying to convince me that the Nazis are bad and the people are good.

[Lord of the Sith]

Ukrainian Minister announced that Kiev is "looking for a plan B option" for Donbass

Little victorious war, and after the lightning surrender of the Sumeria, feed them later?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Lord of the Sith

feed them later?

What more. We don't feed Georgia

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Lipchanin

What more. We don't feed Georgia

Lord, how many of them are around Russia, these beggars, and "give" everyone!

[bk316]

I do not understand this is their minister with stubble in a crumpled dirty shirt?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: bk316

I do not understand this is their minister with stubble in a crumpled dirty shirt?

Yes, they do not understand who is a bum and who is a minister. Faces and outfit are the same.

[major147]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: bk316

I do not understand this is their minister with stubble in a crumpled dirty shirt?

Yes, they do not understand who is a bum and who is a minister. Faces and outfit are the same.

Pak they were recruiting into the "government" by ad. So it is possible

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Major 147, yes, you are not entirely tactful there at all. Say thank you that the "Ukrainian politician" does not wear side-locks.)

[major147]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Say thank you that the "Ukrainian politician" does not wear clothes and does not wear side curtains.)

Oh! Moreover, "not evening"! As I understand the situation, the "kagtavs" decided to take revenge on the "chubaty" for the past pogroms. And as everyone can see - successfully!

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Here I am, too, I often talk about this and laugh ..)) This is a forelock for the pogroms under the tsar-father, but for the Second World War, when poor Jews were handed over to the Germans in order to move to their apartments. What was it was. Let them not be angry. My grandmother also told me about this ..
And how did Nitonyahu's wife eat bread and salt at the Kiev airport? Well done baba !!!!

[mark2]

yes ... This is the minister. what country are the ministers)

[halpat]

Quote: bk316

I do not understand this is their minister with stubble in a crumpled dirty shirt?

similar to Kernes, who recently died in Bose, only losing weight.
mosht brother ... illegitimate?

[ccsr]

According to Mr. Reznikov, "Plan B" itself is "such a figure of speech."

There is no "plan B" in Ukraine, and all they have to offer sensible is the independence of Donbass. But they will never agree to this, and Russia will not let them conquer the uncontrolled territories. So this idiot will drag on for many years until Russia cuts this knot and annexes these republics to itself. That is why I see no reason to perceive and discuss the statement of some figures from Ukraine - there will be a lot of such chatter, and in no way can it be seriously analyzed. There was such a figure Slava Kovtun, who hung out on our TV channels in the form of an "expert" - will anyone remember what he was talking about? So it is with this applicant.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ccsr

According to Mr. Reznikov, "Plan B" itself is "such a figure of speech."

Well, yes, a figure of speech, "whale" too, and a whale and a cat, whatever you like and think. Cleverly, Kaganovich and Grushevsky created a MOV, everywhere only "figures of speech".

[major147]

Quote: ccsr

There was such a figure Slava Kovtun, who hung out on our TV channels in the form of an "expert"

I call those “professional Ukrainians”.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

"professional Ukrainian" is a diagnosis. Moreover, it is not treated. Well, perhaps in Kashchenko. And even then everything will be taken out of the chamber, sold, or exchanged for bacon. Such is the essence ..

[mark2]

From this article, the following becomes clear:
1. Since the conversation is only about Donbass, then they have come to terms with the Crimea. It's good. They are trained a little bit.
2. The realization came that despite all the successful reforms in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they have no people, no weapons, no money, no desire to solve the problems with those undesirable in the American way. It's good that they began to guess about something.
3. And they heeded the words of Mordor, when the Darkest One said, if anything, then Ukraine will lose its statehood. I am glad that they began to understand that no one is going to harness themselves for the Ukrainians.

[major147]

Quote: mark2

The darkest said, if anything, then Ukraine will lose its statehood. I am glad that they began to understand that no one is going to harness themselves for the Ukrainians.

I think they always understood this, but how not to puff themselves up for themselves !?

[t-12]

Dear VO editors. Is it possible at least temporarily to stop the publication of "news" like "Ukrainian politician said so and so"? Or publish them once a week, not more often? And then these senseless statements are already tired. Or is there no other news?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Let them write. Why not laugh at the words "Ukraine" or "Ukrainian politician".

[t-12]

why not laugh

It is a military magazine, not humorous or psychiatric.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I understand. Then, let them create a new heading on "VO" - "Funny Ukraine"

[evgen1221]

We consider Donbass to be Ukraine, so we are saving their lives with shells. The logic is 100500 of course.

[wow]

Seek-seek, must be!

[u-345]

What is Plan B after all?
Is it true that "surrender"?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Plan "P" awaits Ukraine.

[Dimide]

I read the article and comments, smiled.
Plan B does not imply a forceful solution.
Details will be announced after the transfer of power in the United States and the end of the swing with "-Brexit" in London

[Alien From]

The initiative is known ....... loves the initiator ........

[Cat]

if “there is an understanding that everything done further is impossible to do

Hmm ... It was 6 years of "anti-terrorist operation" ... By this time, plan "P" or plan "X" should have matured.

[Puppeteer 111]

Good day. Well, do not write notorious eyes. You are welcome.

[fetus]

looking for ?? of course you are looking .. it is important not to forget what you are looking for, I hope not yesterday?

[Puppeteer 111]

I go to the news line. 20 articles. 5 of them are from Ukraine. All the rest are Azerbaijan (Armenia), India, etc. About Russia - 2, and those, it is not clear what. And the whole point is that the site is called - Military Review)))

[cniza]

Ukrainian Minister announced that Kiev is "looking for a plan B option" for Donbass

Look, look should be exactly, but this is what?

[Real Pilot]

Quote: morpogr

As soon as Plan B is adopted, the DPR and LPR should be recognized immediately. And let them think about their plans alphabetically.

There is a proposal - "Plan X" ... And only in Latin or Cyrillic - how it goes

[Viktor Sergeev]

Am I the only one, or have they already announced about the existence of a plan "B" 10 times? How much money is allocated to find a plan?

[Ros 56]

Why look for this plan B, you might think that someone has lost it. Follow the Minsk agreements and you will be alive, but no, you yourself wanted to.

[APASUS]

Plan B for Kiev is a series of actions where the whole world sees the desire for peace in Ukraine and not the desire to do something on the part of the DPR and LPR.

[Voltsky]

of course the right decision, to look for the plan "Jo" ....

The only catch is that, being a failed state, everyone sincerely gives a shit about all of Ukraine's proposals; but that's okay

[Graduate student]

Ukrainian Minister announced that Kiev is "looking for a plan B option" for Donbass

Nu-nu. further down Lavrov