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In Ukraine, they decide on the bankruptcy of the automobile company "Bogdan Motors", which worked for the "defense industry"

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To date, the plant in Cherkassy, ​​which produced vehicles for the Armed Forces of Ukraine, is actually closed. Now in Ukraine they are solving the issue of bankruptcy of the automobile company Bogdan Motors, which worked for the defense industry.


This is reported by the Ukrainian Military Pages.

The workshops of the plant are now empty, as the workers were laid off.

The Bogdan Motors automobile company notes that Ukrainian manufacturers have not managed to get access to cheap financial resources (loans) that could help build up the production capabilities of enterprises and increase the volume of working capital. It is almost impossible to obtain loans for the fulfillment of state defense orders.

Instead, the company notes, the Ukrainian state is doing everything to put approved loans into question.

As a result, Bogdan Motors' revenues dropped several times. This is clearly seen in the amount of taxes and other budgetary contributions paid by the company. In 2019, it amounted to 384 million hryvnia (almost a billion rubles), and for 11 months of 2020, the company paid only slightly more than 120 million (about 312 million rubles).

And at the end of the financial year, one of the creditors of Bogdan Motors opened the proceedings on the beginning of the bankruptcy procedure of the enterprise.

Back in October of this year, there was hope in Ukraine that the plant would work. Then they decided to renew the previously frozen contract for the supply of basic armored vehicles to the Armed Forces for a mobile battery of 120-mm mortars. But in the end the situation for the enterprise turned out to be deplorable.
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  1. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 28 December 2020 18: 18
    +17
    scheneumerland fulfills its main function - it shows the future of any limitrophe, a country incapable of subjectivity. although, of course, looking at this extravaganza, acute attacks of shame torment fiercely, but I will not hide some cowardly malevolence, visits ...
    1. credo
      credo 28 December 2020 19: 25
      +22
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      scheneumerland fulfills its main function - it shows the future of any limitrophe, a country incapable of subjectivity. although, of course, looking at this extravaganza, acute attacks of shame torment fiercely, but I will not hide some cowardly malevolence, visits ...

      And I would like to add to your words - for the edification of some citizens of Russia and many citizens of the once large USSR and the CMEA countries, who perceive it as a blessing and "love" from the "civilized world" when they are told that they need to close most enterprises, because they produce uncompetitive products, so it is better for them to buy "good" goods from these countries - so that they, these naive citizens, look again at the example of Ukraine, what the "civilized world" did to their economy and did not do that never, so as not to be in a state of losers and idiots.
      Once again, looking at the Baltic republics, Ukraine, Moldova, Russia and the CMEA countries, you are convinced that the Anglo-Saxons did not for a moment abandon their plan to reduce the population and destroy the economy in these countries, so you need to urgently remove the veil from your eyes and honestly admit to yourself - The Anglo-Saxons are an evil that no one can overcome alone, and they use our separation.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 28 December 2020 20: 04
        +2
        The point is the viciousness of some provisions of the world financial system, WTO and capitalism as a whole. On the one hand, this allows you to be in good shape, but if you go along the path of abolishing duties, then imports will irrevocably kill all production in the country, with the exception of buy and sell, but this is speculative and you can't live on this for a long time, so until the first sneeze of gishants and everything will fall down ... Better your own, even if it's shitty but your own.
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 December 2020 22: 53
          -9
          Quote: evgen1221
          Better your own, even if it's shitty but your own.

          The main thing in this case is to completely block access to the good "not your own") Well, it works with cheese - we chew Orphan's plasticine or "Altai cheese maker" - the norms. laughing
          R&D in the era import substitution - this is golden, her mother lived! I've always wondered - did the Chinese have it the same way with their technology theft and copying? Has the CCP lent funds for cutting?
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 28 December 2020 23: 24
            0
            Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            did the Chinese have the same thing with their technology theft and copying? Has the CCP lent funds for cutting?

            The Chinese are smarter than Merlik puppies - it seems that the Chinese smart monkey, sitting on a tree and waiting for the end of the fight between the tiger and the lion, has waited. Now the tiger needs to prove that he is a tiger, not a domestic cat ...
            1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 December 2020 23: 44
              -4
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              the Chinese clever monkey, sitting on a tree and waiting for the end of the fight between the tiger and the lion, has waited. Now the tiger needs to prove that he is a tiger, not a domestic cat ...

              there it is ... the Chinese, apparently, condescendingly look at the idiot, who considers them a monkey, and himself - a tiger. However, I think they are comfortable with being a primate, not a dull tabby cat.
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 28 December 2020 23: 59
                0
                Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                it’s like ...

                Apparently, you are not quite in the know, you do not know Chinese psychology and mythology.

                There is an old, about 2 thousand years old, Chinese fairy tale. Like a clever monkey, she sat in a tree and did not dare to go down, while a tiger and a lion were fighting below. According to that fairy tale, they laughed at each other, and the smart monkey, who was sitting on a tree and checking his eyes at them, remained in profit. ...

                That's what I mean. Read the Chinese, especially Sun Tzu. It is useful as you do not expect ... I read it 30 years ago - I was stunned myself ...
                1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                  Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 29 December 2020 09: 03
                  -3
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  especially Sun Tzu. It is useful as you do not expect ... I read it 30 years ago - I was stunned myself ...

                  "Stunned" by his treatise? Strange reaction. That way, you can be "stunned" from Mao's quotation book, which, in essence, is just a set of platitudes.
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 29 December 2020 14: 38
          0
          Quote: evgen1221
          The point is the viciousness of some provisions of the world financial system, WTO and capitalism in general.

          It is rather the viciousness of the national economic system. Poroshenko stood for Bogdan Motors and the company had orders for the military component, Poroshenko was gone and the orders ran out ..............
      2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 December 2020 21: 44
        -11%
        Quote: credo
        as an edification to some citizens of Russia and many citizens of the once large USSR and the CMEA countries, who perceive as blessing and "love" from the "civilized world",

        to be honest, among these categories, so-called. There is no particular enthusiasm for the "former" to throw themselves into the arms of Russia and "return back" the USSR and CMEA. And they still stubbornly prefer
        Quote: credo
        "love" from the "civilized world"

        "love" from the east. Apparently, for a simple reason - we cannot offer them anything attractive to them. As in that bearded, but always topical anecdote - no matter what they do, they get a Kalashnikov assault rifle, so with the concept of "love" - ​​no matter what they suggest, but it turns out the USSR, but only caricature. Of the two conceptual evils, they choose the western. I don't think you deny them logic, no?
        ))
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 28 December 2020 23: 13
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      scheneumerland

      The term impressed, I will not hide! Plus a thousand from me, if I could. good drinks
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 29 December 2020 00: 07
        0
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Quote: Gennady Fomkin
        scheneumerland

        The term impressed, I will not hide! Plus a thousand from me, if I could. good drinks

        Um ...... Minus the skakuas? I will accept from them - at least a thousand, at least two. They love, however ... The enemy scolds - I feel good ... So I am right. I am speaking. Don't wait for the Pskov division to start working in Ukraine. The Airborne Forces does not know pity, pity is a sin ... But we do not sin ..
  2. Dodikson
    Dodikson 28 December 2020 18: 19
    +7
    interesting and Svarog will write a comment in the style of "everything is bad in Ukraine, you need to change the power", or is he just crap on Russia?
    1. apro
      apro 28 December 2020 18: 25
      -10%
      Quote: Dodikson
      interesting and Svarog will write a comment in the style of "everything is bad in Ukraine, you need to change the power", or is he just crap on Russia?

      Both in Ukraine and in the Russian Federation it is necessary to change the authorities.
      1. Dodikson
        Dodikson 28 December 2020 18: 26
        -1
        but as for me, it is not necessary to change it in Russia. but in the states it is necessary to change it.
        1. Puppeteer 111
          Puppeteer 111 28 December 2020 22: 24
          -2
          Do you eat at the trough yourself?
          1. Dodikson
            Dodikson 29 December 2020 05: 18
            0
            no, free bread, but now because of the crisis in general I am going to bankruptcy.
            so you can rejoice.
      2. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 28 December 2020 18: 31
        -11%
        In Ukraine, they decide on the bankruptcy of the automobile company "Bogdan Motors", which worked for the "defense industry"
        his neighbor zadolbal vaz 2111 at the entrance is rubbing - an extremist ... true without a hand ... and "bohdan" yes ... zadolbal. yes okay .. let him put it .. I'll go around the deep Urals, if cho.
      3. Cananecat
        Cananecat 28 December 2020 18: 51
        +2
        Both in Ukraine and in the Russian Federation it is necessary to change the authorities.

        Dear ... we are ours, we are new ... we have already gone through, can you add some words without slogans?
        History does not teach you anything, as I can see, how collective farms with banners in 1905, and a century later continue to collective farms.
        I can tell you a secret, but whoever sat on cash flows will sit on them, and you and other strangers will not be allowed close. Is it hard to understand?
        1. apro
          apro 28 December 2020 19: 04
          -5
          Quote: Canecat
          Dear ... we are ours, we are new ... we have already passed,

          Exactly passed ...
          Quote: Canecat
          I can tell you a secret, but whoever sat on cash flows will sit on them

          And you like it ..
          Quote: Canecat
          and they won't let you and other strangers get close.

          ... and what can be moved, the precedent was for the good of the people.
          1. Cananecat
            Cananecat 28 December 2020 19: 08
            0
            ... and what can be moved, the precedent was for the good of the people

            Smiled ... you will teach history, in part as members of the Comintern, expropriated gold from the storehouse was tarried in their pockets and exported abroad ... for the benefit of individual sons of that very people)))
            1. apro
              apro 28 December 2020 19: 17
              -4
              Quote: Canecat
              Smiled

              It happens.
              Quote: Canecat
              as members of the Comintern, expropriated gold from the vault was tarried in their pockets and exported abroad .. for the benefit of individual sons of that very people))

              And industrialization? And the welfare state? And collectivization? By God's will it turned out? Or by itself?
              1. Cananecat
                Cananecat 28 December 2020 20: 18
                -4
                I have nothing against labor enthusiasm ... but while all the people were building socialism, the top lived under communism)))
              2. Dodikson
                Dodikson 28 December 2020 20: 43
                +1
                but what have industrialization and the welfare state to do with it?
                the Trotskyists were not going to build it, say thanks to Stalin who removed these ghouls from power.
                1. apro
                  apro 28 December 2020 20: 48
                  +2
                  Quote: Dodikson
                  but what have industrialization and the welfare state to do with it?

                  And despite the fact that it was built by those who moved the huckster and redirected cash flows for the good of the people.
                  1. Dodikson
                    Dodikson 29 December 2020 05: 19
                    0
                    and what have the Trotskyists got to do with it? they directed cash flows for the benefits of a particular people and this people is not Russian.
                    1. apro
                      apro 29 December 2020 05: 22
                      -3
                      Quote: Dodikson
                      they directed cash flows to the benefits of a particular people and this people is not Russian

                      Poor Russian people ... they never reported sausages to them ...
                      So, what was the means of building the Soviet state, the Soviet economy, attacked from the sky?
                      1. Dodikson
                        Dodikson 29 December 2020 05: 29
                        0
                        yes, such a bastard as you always robbed him.
                        people like you bleated in the 90s that freedom and democracy are needed, stealing the last crumbs from the Russians, and you think that Russians in the 90s lived happily and well enough, so that their conscience would not be pricked for what they stole and the beggars who saw their salaries and pensions every six months and there was a penny.
                        but as they pushed away from the trough, they repainted themselves as communists.
                        but the circumcised cosmopolitan, no matter how beautiful, still does not look like a Russian.
                      2. apro
                        apro 29 December 2020 05: 32
                        -2
                        Dodik: Are you talking about yourself?
                        Quote: Dodikson
                        doesn't look like Russian anyway

                        I am not Russian. I am Soviet.
                      3. Dodikson
                        Dodikson 29 December 2020 06: 22
                        +1
                        Yes, yes, Leiba Bronstein said so when he starved millions of Russians.
                        it was the Russians who wanted to eat, but the Soviets for the sake of the party could starve for a couple of years, feeding on solar energy and the precepts of the party.
                      4. apro
                        apro 29 December 2020 06: 39
                        -1
                        Quote: Dodikson
                        the Russians wanted to eat

                        Dodik understood you .. well, now at least .. ate ???
                      5. Dodikson
                        Dodikson 29 December 2020 10: 13
                        -2
                        at least 5-10 million people a year do not die of hunger.
                      6. apro
                        apro 29 December 2020 10: 25
                        0
                        Quote: Dodikson
                        at least 5-10 million people a year do not die of hunger.

                        And so all the years of Soviet power? Ay yay yay..this is how many Russians died? 700 million ??? oh Solzhenitsyn didn’t lie ...
                      7. Dodikson
                        Dodikson 29 December 2020 10: 28
                        -2
                        read what the starving Volga region is, you will even see photos of "non-Soviet" people, they dared to die of hunger, swell from hunger, and not glorify Leiba Bronstein and other non-Russian surnames from the sealed carriage.
                        with all my heart I wish you to experience what they have experienced (or not), then it will be cleaner on Earth.
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 December 2020 21: 48
      -9
      Quote: Dodikson
      say thanks to Stalin

      How ... a boy from "Yeralash" grew up, but, alas, did not grow wiser ...
  • K-612-O
    K-612-O 28 December 2020 19: 12
    +7
    And who saddled these streams as a result? After Vissarionych, the party nomenklatura sat down and sucked the juices from the country, destroying the working model, at 85, it turned over everything in order to legalize these grandmothers in the west.
    I'm already silent about Leiba Davydych, who, like Chubais, for expensive, cheap, almost for nothing, drove the heritage and wealth of the Russian people, bread, timber, coal abroad.
    1. apro
      apro 28 December 2020 19: 20
      -7
      Quote: K-612-O
      And who saddled these streams as a result?

      And what did you do .... and what results did you achieve? Can you boast of a Russian like that? Or can you only boast of lordly wealth?
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 28 December 2020 20: 19
        +1
        There is Alexander Sytin, and there is Oleg Frolov. Both are Russian by origin, but those who hate Russia do not consider themselves Russian either. Only under different slogans and from different sides.
        1. apro
          apro 28 December 2020 20: 36
          -8
          Quote: Sergej1972
          There is Alexander Sytin, and there is Oleg Frolov. Both are Russian by origin, but those who hate Russia do not consider themselves Russian either. Only under different slogans and from different sides.

          And now dear, describe the Russian Federation that you can love ...
          1. Dodikson
            Dodikson 28 December 2020 20: 45
            +6
            Russia needs to be loved ANYONE. but you do not know this, the cosmopolitan has no homeland or homeland. Judas without family and tribe.
          2. K-612-O
            K-612-O 28 December 2020 20: 51
            +8
            You need to go to Germany or Poland, they will love you there
            1. apro
              apro 28 December 2020 20: 53
              -3
              Quote: K-612-O
              You need to go to Germany or Poland, they will love you there

              Not russkiy.eto you aspire there ... but I need to go to the USSR.
              1. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 28 December 2020 21: 13
                +1
                And what, in the USSR there were no Russians, Ukrainians, etc.? There were no Soviet people without nationality, every Soviet person belonged to one or another nationality.
              2. apro
                apro 28 December 2020 21: 19
                -4
                In the USSR, the principles of life were Soviet ... and not separately Russian Ukrainian
              3. K-612-O
                K-612-O 28 December 2020 22: 00
                0
                Yeah, there was only a column in the passport
              4. apro
                apro 28 December 2020 22: 08
                -4
                Quote: K-612-O
                Yeah, there was only a column in the passport

                And what ???? did not harness ...
              5. K-612-O
                K-612-O 28 December 2020 22: 19
                +4
                And if I am half Belarusian, half Russian? Why do they write me Russian? Or Gaifulin Ramil, Russian because his mother is Russian, and he is a Muslim and a Tatar? And Izya Faruk is a Tatar. Why was this discrimination within the Soviet people?
                And tell me when did the Ukrainians and Belarusians appear? Is it from Lenin?
              6. apro
                apro 28 December 2020 22: 24
                -5
                Quote: K-612-O
                Why do they write me Russian?

                They wrote ...
                Quote: K-612-O
                Why was this discrimination within the Soviet people?

                Discrimination in what way? Russians were not hired, Ukrainians in institutes, Tatars in the army? Or were they beaten for money?
              7. K-612-O
                K-612-O 28 December 2020 22: 35
                +1
                Why is this graph? Division by national borderlands? Why emphasize nationality? Under the king, this was not for a minute. And yes, the national outskirts had preferences in education and employment
              8. Aviator_
                Aviator_ 28 December 2020 23: 03
                -1
                And yes, the national outskirts had preferences in education and employment

                Was it with the king?
            2. krops777
              krops777 29 December 2020 04: 40
              0
              Discrimination in what way? Russians were not hired, Ukrainians in institutes, Tatars in the army? Or were they beaten for money?


              You either do not know (then why are you so diligently drowning for the USSR on this topic) or pretend that you do not know how things were in some republics of the USSR and regions of the country.
            3. apro
              apro 29 December 2020 05: 19
              -3
              Quote: krops777
              how things were in some republics of the USSR and regions of the country.

              How was it? Officially taking bribes?
  • Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 29 December 2020 04: 25
    -1
    Quote: apro
    Quote: K-612-O
    You need to go to Germany or Poland, they will love you there

    Not russkiy.eto you aspire there ... but I need to go to the USSR.

    on the way .. will you take it?
  • halpat
    halpat 28 December 2020 21: 36
    +2
    Quote: K-612-O
    You need to go to Germany or Poland, they will love you there

    But not for nothing, but for diligently picking strawberries on the plantations, washing dishes and other nyaki ... they will fall in love a little, just enough so that you do not die of hunger.
  • K-612-O
    K-612-O 28 December 2020 20: 48
    0
    How lordly is that? Concentration camps until 23 years old on Pechora and Dvina were driven to England, grain wagons to Germany and steamers to America, we will omit the works of art, well, you don't need culture and art. The Far Eastern forest for a penny to America, the surrender of the CER, the surrender of Kars and Trebizond, more than 100 tons of gold to Ataturk, again, grain and weapons, the recruitment of Enver Pasha, the list for the Bolsheviks is long. Stalin tried to revive the people's empire, which ended in nepotism and betrayal. They also gave up Crimea, and the Chinese still consider us revanchists, even though the commander-in-chief and how much he did to turn it around, thanks to the dear Blet party.
    1. apro
      apro 28 December 2020 20: 59
      -2
      Yes, the fox carries me ...
      How lordly? And the fact that Russian hucksters stole from the people and shoved western banks ...
      And what did they want to say with this flow ??? Yes, the Reds had defeats and mistakes ... yes, victories were more serious than Russian jerks and getting up from their knees ...
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 28 December 2020 22: 02
        0
        Are Trotsky and Zinoviev Russian hucksters? Let's take into account. You will study the issue, including in the archives of the FSB, the UCHK documented everything well, and the military department too
        1. apro
          apro 28 December 2020 22: 10
          -4
          Quote: K-612-O
          Are Trotsky and Zinoviev Russian hucksters?

          ???? and that they were overthrown in October 1917? What's in your head ????
          1. K-612-O
            K-612-O 28 December 2020 22: 37
            +3
            As a result, they are more old-fashioned and
          2. apro
            apro 29 December 2020 05: 15
            -2
            Quote: K-612-O
            As a result, they are more old-fashioned and

            ???? for more details pzhlsta ... how is it?
    2. K-612-O
      K-612-O 28 December 2020 22: 14
      -1
      Kars, straits, Trebizond, Port Arthur, these are so little things, Finland, Poland, generally a trifle, Manzhuria, Jerusalem in general dust
      1. apro
        apro 28 December 2020 22: 26
        -3
        Quote: K-612-O
        Kars, straits, Trebizond, Port Arthur, these are so little things, Finland, Poland, generally a trifle, Manzhuria, Jerusalem in general dust

        What are you talking about now ??? and the great Russian Wishlist ...
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 28 December 2020 22: 38
          +1
          About minor defeats and mistakes, as you put it. In the 17th year it was all Russian
        2. apro
          apro 29 December 2020 05: 14
          -1
          Quote: K-612-O
          About minor defeats and mistakes, as you put it. In the 17th year it was all Russian

          And nothing that the Russians surrendered all this ???
        3. K-612-O
          K-612-O 29 December 2020 10: 03
          -1
          Yeah, only the names Lenin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, etc.
        4. apro
          apro 29 December 2020 10: 13
          0
          There is only Russian VIUlyanov .. so for information.
          Of the Russians, these are Romanov Nikolai, Mennerheim, Denikin, Kolchak, and thousands of Russian whites ... and other green separatist mercenaries.
  • Revolver
    Revolver 29 December 2020 04: 52
    0
    Quote: K-612-O
    Jerusalem is generally dust

    When and with what fright was Jerusalem Russian? From the foundation was, is, and will be Jewish. Founded by David, King of Israel. Yes, there were periods when Greeks, Romans, Arabs, Crusaders, and other Turks owned it, but all of them were nothing more than temporary invaders. Since 1948 the capital of Israel, since 1967 it has been united under the sovereignty of Israel.
    Quote: K-612-O
    Kars, straits, Trebizond, Port Arthur, these are so little things, Finland, Poland, generally a trifle, Manzhuria
    You also forgot to mention Constantinople. And nefig was to overthrow the government in the midst of World War II. If the plans of the tsarist command, which looked quite realistic, and for the first time in the whole war backed up by stocks of ammunition, food, and all that makes the army an army and distinguishes it from the unarmed ragged hungry crowd, you look and Nicholas would have received a parade of Russian troops in Constantinople in the fall of 1917 ... But what happened happened, and the parade was replaced by a proletarian revolution.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 29 December 2020 10: 06
      -1
      So Yudenich stood near Constantinople in 16 and Turkey withdrew from the war, with the army defeated by Yudenich, all of Alania was occupied by the Russians, and the Palestinian territories had to retreat to us, but first the cadets, and then the Leninists ... lost all this. And then they handed over everything to the Turks that they didn’t even hope for, and threw a piece of gold with bread when there was devastation in the country and the people were starving
  • Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 29 December 2020 04: 27
    0
    Quote: apro
    Yes, the fox carries me ...

    "lube"?
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 28 December 2020 20: 14
    0
    Basically, they persecuted after Leiba Davydych was removed from his posts. Compare the export of coal, timber, grain with him and at the beginning of the 30s.
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 28 December 2020 20: 49
      +1
      In the early 30s, we bought factories, engineers and technologies for this, but where that money went is a question. The ice ax was oh, how not in vain
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 28 December 2020 21: 11
        +1
        It was precisely in the export of raw materials that Trotsky was never accused.
        1. K-612-O
          K-612-O 28 December 2020 22: 04
          0
          And who blamed, and this is not confirmation that this was not. The archives all remember.
      2. Revolver
        Revolver 29 December 2020 06: 37
        -1
        Quote: K-612-O
        In the early 30s, we bought factories, engineers and technologies for this, but where that money went is the question.

        Was that money? Lev Davydovich was never allowed to steer the country alone. He steered the Revolutionary Military Council, until he was removed from there. He was never admitted to foreign trade. And the country, even under Lenin (during the years of his illness and seclusion in Gorki), was in fact ruled by Stalin. First, in alliance with Zinoviev and Kamenev against Trotsky, then with Bukharin against Zinoviev and Kamenev, and there he tidied up Bukharin. And in general, Stalin did the right thing. Defeat the deviators, whether left or right, and now the main language of the Internet would not be English, but German. And Russian in general, if it would have survived, then in the distant backyards.
        Quote: K-612-O
        The ice ax was oh, how not in vain
        Here I completely agree. Trotsky, even by his very existence, brought confusion into the ranks of the CPSU (b) and the international communist movement. And he not only existed, but actively worked to undermine Stalin's authority and against the interests of the USSR. And the defeat in Spain was one of the reasons that the Spanish Trotskyists refused to obey the pro-Soviet government and command, and a considerable part of the republican forces was infected with Trotskyism. So Stalin endured his antics for a long time.
  • Odessa Greek
    Odessa Greek 28 December 2020 23: 17
    0
    You can ask a trivial question - why in your comments Ukraine, as it should be for the name of the state, is written with a capital letter, and the Russian Federation is with a small letter? Typo, or hostility towards Russia on a subconscious level ??? Only SUGS, please, do not shout, it seems there is no big top here winked
  • Eldorado
    Eldorado 28 December 2020 18: 51
    +1
    It is unlikely that he will write here, he only writes angry comments about Russia ..
    1. Dodikson
      Dodikson 28 December 2020 18: 55
      +3
      and I mean the same.
      and I sit and think, do people really have a memory like an aquarium fish and they do not remember the writing style of rather active characters and cannot understand that some characters are here only to pour dirt on their homeland.
      1. K-612-O
        K-612-O 28 December 2020 22: 51
        0
        Arpo has long been noticed in this, although it disguises itself as a faithful Leninist
        1. Dodikson
          Dodikson 29 December 2020 05: 16
          0
          he is not alone. their name is legion.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 December 2020 19: 25
    +4
    Quote: Dodikson
    interesting and Svarog will write a comment

    It is interesting not what Svarog will write, but what you Ukrainians will write. All the same, there should be an explanation for the next bankruptcy, or again, Moscow is to blame for this?
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 28 December 2020 19: 49
      +1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      is Moscow to blame?

      it's not her fault ... at her own AZLK and ZiL, like 1/4 century, they went bankrupt ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 December 2020 20: 10
        -4
        Quote: Lara Croft
        it's not her fault ... at her own AZLK and ZiL, like 1/4 century, they went bankrupt ...

        I'm talking about now, not about how the Russian Empire went bankrupt 100 years ago, and that until 1954 Crimea was part of the RSFSR, and now it is also part of the Russian Federation.
        1. Cutter
          Cutter 28 December 2020 21: 27
          -2
          Instead, the company notes, the Ukrainian state is doing everything to put approved loans into question.

          And the same is offered to my Republic of Belarus ??? In my country, any Western "democracy" will be "called into question." Get out of here ..... example-Ukrainian, on the letter will soon be taken apart, there will only be a sober ...
          1. Cutter
            Cutter 28 December 2020 22: 09
            -4
            Oh, "zmagars" do not like objective and direct opinions, they are used to acting "out of tishka" ... tongue laughing
        2. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 28 December 2020 21: 45
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          I'm talking about now, not about how the Russian Empire went bankrupt 100 years ago,

          100 years ago there was no RI ... belay
      2. K-612-O
        K-612-O 28 December 2020 22: 05
        -1
        AND? See how many car factories in Russia, both domestic and imported, and compare
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 28 December 2020 20: 59
    -3
    Svarog is now eating bacon ... Under the blanket ..
  • Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 28 December 2020 18: 23
    +2
    Ukraine is ruled by the Turks and the EU, it is better to buy there for three prices and get 50% of kickbacks.
  • nnm
    nnm 28 December 2020 18: 24
    +5
    As far as I remember, this is Poroshenko's company?
    The president has been replaced, government orders have flowed to new beneficiaries and that's it, light it up.
    Zelensky will change, the next company will go bankrupt, and a new one will appear.
    I wonder if government contracts are fully executed or not ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 December 2020 19: 30
      -1
      Quote: nnm
      As far as I remember, this is Poroshenko's company?

      True Parashenki. And they have, like a new president, all the enterprises of the previous one are closed, and so already six times. So look how many enterprises went bankrupt, and they were all "presidential" ones. But did Zelensky get anything?
      1. nnm
        nnm 28 December 2020 19: 45
        +2
        Yes, maybe not personally to him, but to loyal people. Sometimes I look at what billions are simply insolently stolen on the same roads and I understand that such money cannot pass by. Through the company of his Turkish friends, etc.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 December 2020 20: 04
          -1
          Quote: nnm
          Yes, maybe not personally to him, but to loyal people.

          Well, why then be elected president, so much work and nerves, but no income. Sorry, but this is not Ukrainian.
          1. nnm
            nnm 28 December 2020 20: 08
            -1
            Well, I’m looking at how all the main contracts for roads are won by the Onur company and another Turkish company that is not officially affiliated with it, which belongs to his friend from the pre-presidential times, in whose hotels he gave concerts and, you know, the words about that he himself is honest and does not steal anything, they just amuse me.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 28 December 2020 20: 28
              -1
              Quote: nnm
              you know, the words that he is honest himself and does not steal anything just amuse me.

              Well, they found why Zelensky was elected president. He's not free, he does "good deeds".
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 28 December 2020 19: 52
      -3
      Quote: nnm
      I wonder if government contracts are fully executed or not ...

      The author wrote to you in the article -
      decided to renew a previously frozen contract for the supply of basic armored vehicles for the APU for a mobile battery of 120-mm mortars. But as a result, the situation for the enterprise turned out to be deplorable.
      1. nnm
        nnm 28 December 2020 19: 58
        0
        So I am writing that I do not understand what is the result of the contract. Who owes whom to whom and what will happen with this debt. Just blamed for bankruptcy? So Petya, it turns out, will work here too.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 December 2020 20: 06
          0
          Quote: nnm
          So Petya, it turns out, will work here too.

          Petya earned so much during his presidency that now he simply abandons these useless enterprises. Enough for him, his children and grandchildren.
        2. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 28 December 2020 21: 42
          0
          Quote: nnm
          Just blamed for bankruptcy? So Petya, it turns out, will work here too.

          So yes ... and most likely his own dummy office will bankrupt Petya's almshouse ...
    3. Gato
      Gato 28 December 2020 22: 22
      0
      Zelensky will change, the next company will go bankrupt, and a new one will appear.

      Most likely it is. The bankruptcy procedure can be launched with the aim of either changing the owner or keeping it. As an example, the plot of the film seems to be "Hunt for red deer". Gunpowder is generally a master of such combinations.
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 28 December 2020 18: 25
    +5
    As I wrote earlier - all Petyunin (who Poroshenko) pinched the tail! The forge in Rybalskoye was left without contracts, "Bogdan" is bankrupt ... And so on!)))
    By the way, the fact that these "horns and hooves" were collected by "nurses" and MAZs (well, how they collected ... the nameplates were twisted) does not put this enterprise among the "valuable" ones for the Ukroboronprom.
    1. nnm
      nnm 28 December 2020 18: 35
      +3
      Yes, there’s nothing to do with the pet's tail. Just instead of his pocket, they dragged budget money into loyal companies that they loved. And Petya's personality, in this case, is not interesting to anyone.
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 28 December 2020 18: 39
        +2
        That is, you think that "pushing away from the trough" of firms that were praised under Gunpowder and now are bankrupt is a coincidence? I don't think so !!!)))
        Moreover, these firms indirectly belong to him ...
        1. nnm
          nnm 28 December 2020 18: 41
          0
          These are nothing more than side effects. If they investigated corruption in his performance, they imprisoned - then, yes. And so - they just drove Petya away from the budget feeder and put their conditional Mykola ...
          And I wonder who will eventually receive the capacities of the bankrupt enterprises. Maybe just a banal redistribution of assets.
          1. Normal ok
            Normal ok 28 December 2020 19: 28
            +3
            Quote: nnm
            And I wonder who will eventually receive the capacities of the bankrupt enterprises. Maybe just a banal redistribution of assets.

            100% Pure business, nothing personal.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 December 2020 19: 32
      -4
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      The forge in Rybalskoye was left without contracts, "Bogdan" is going bankrupt ... And so on!

      Interestingly, and the "landrin" with "chupa-chups" also blocked, or something to suck, is it still necessary?
  • Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 28 December 2020 18: 35
    +3
    The automotive industry cannot be built on state orders alone for the defense industry.

    The Ukrainian car market is scanty - 70-80 thousand new cars per year. No plant will pay off.

    The most optimal is the assembly of some already serial cars available at a price for the population, at the same ZAZ. But this kind of production requires large investments.

    By severing ties with Russia, Ukraine harms itself more.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 28 December 2020 20: 26
      0
      Buses of this company ran in Yekaterinburg. I myself have never traveled, but on the road we were frequent guests on bus routes. Also seen. A couple of dozen copies of a dozen under the brand name "Bogdan". Recently they have disappeared. Although the owners of the nameplates may have changed out of harm's way.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 29 December 2020 04: 34
        0
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        Buses of this company ran in Yekaterinburg. I myself have never traveled, but on the road we were frequent guests on bus routes.

        it's true ... I saw it myself.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 28 December 2020 18: 43
    +2
    If you look closely, the owner of this and other breeders, who were working and supplying under the last president, was just the previous president ... and he did not become poorer, just the opposite !!!
    It is unlikely that such subtleties, nuances are available to the Saakuas, there may be interesny ... but there must be some amount of those who have not skipped.
    Though ......
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 December 2020 20: 34
      -2
      Quote: rocket757
      It is unlikely that such subtleties, nuances are available to the Saakuas, there may be interesny ... but there must be some amount of those who have not skipped.

      Well, yes, someone has considerable dividends in his pocket, and the horses just gallop on.
  • svp67
    svp67 28 December 2020 18: 48
    +5
    As a result, Bogdan Motors' revenues dropped several times.
    Still, the owner has ceased to be a Guarantor ... that's all. The new Guarantor has his own views on where to spend money
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 December 2020 19: 35
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      The new Guarantor has his own views on where to spend money

      As they say in the Caucasus "My donkey, I want to milk ... I want food!"
  • businessv
    businessv 28 December 2020 18: 53
    0
    But in the end the situation for the enterprise turned out to be deplorable.
    Like everything in today's Ukraine. Sorry people!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 December 2020 19: 40
      -1
      Quote: businessv
      Like everything in today's Ukraine.

      Like everyone else, the hardest and most difficult year is "leap", but in Ukraine every year is "leap".
  • Cool but not Igor
    Cool but not Igor 28 December 2020 18: 57
    -5
    Why spend resources on the automotive industry if the United States supplies some good used Humvees. And the funds will be spent on Neptune, Alder, radar, i.e. in every possible way to become an ever greater thorn in Russia
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 December 2020 19: 43
      +1
      Quote: Cool but not Igor
      if the US supplies some good used Humvees.

      Not a bad technique, although it is second-hand, but in Ukraine everything is second-hand, but it costs 5 times more expensive than the domestic beam. (this is the price of the issue and the price of bankruptcy.)
  • Avior
    Avior 28 December 2020 19: 01
    +6
    What a wonderful coincidence. smile When three cases were opened against the owner, they put on an electronic bracelet, and flooded from a high position, it immediately turns out that he is not such a business genius, he does not have enough loans.
    Who would have thought!
  • morpogr
    morpogr 28 December 2020 19: 01
    +6
    Another peremoga, soon they will have no factories at all. And they did not become an agrarian power. One word "ruin". On the other hand, they sleep in garnit and dye it in zhovto blakitny. laughing
    .
    1. Cool but not Igor
      Cool but not Igor 28 December 2020 20: 51
      -1
      Yes, Ukraine does not need to become a full-fledged power, there is not even such a goal! They need to become a thorn in Russia and the more the better, which means that the funds should not be sent to the automotive industry, but to the creation of Neptune, Alder, radar, etc. (the United States helps them in electronics, hardware blocks, image intensifier 3/3 + generation , high-resolution cameras, navigation equipment, avionics) To complicate the geopolitical situation (an increasing threat to the LPNR) and to increase spending of the Russian budget on military planning.
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 28 December 2020 21: 03
      -1
      There is such an anecdote. In the village club, a meeting of collective farmers ...
      The key phrase "But we sleep a little more garneau"))
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 28 December 2020 19: 11
    +3
    automobile company "Bogdan Motors"
    edition of Ukrainian Military Pages


    The Naglo-Saxons don't bother with names at all laughing
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 December 2020 19: 49
      -1
      Quote: Lord of the Sith
      The Naglo-Saxons don't bother with names at all

      And why is it soared if the company is created for bankruptcy.
  • Vladislav_2
    Vladislav_2 28 December 2020 19: 55
    0
    "tovarischi ukraintsy" you stupidly fucked up EVERYTHING !!! .... there is no way back! .You need to TREAT VERY WORK to wash off what you have done !!!! .... and so .... to us! don't care deeply about YOUR problems
  • Tagan
    Tagan 28 December 2020 20: 16
    -2
    Quote: Dodikson
    interesting and Svarog will write a comment in the style of "everything is bad in Ukraine, you need to change the power", or is he just crap on Russia?

    There will be installation, shit in his own pocket. You can be sure.
  • Anachoret
    Anachoret 28 December 2020 20: 53
    0
    For some reason, the news does not include the owner of the company Poroshenko and the famous Ukrainian top manager Svinarchuk hails from there, as far as I remember
  • Dimide
    Dimide 28 December 2020 20: 58
    0
    The background is very simple, Gladkovsky (former head of the National Security and Defense Council and protege of the former president), Poroshenko's accomplice, under "criminal cases" - "a whole bunch" While Poroshenko was in power (since the 90s), there were orders and loans.
    The military complained that MAZ-Bogdan and the Chinese "nurse" did not meet the requirements.
  • Brturin
    Brturin 28 December 2020 22: 13
    +1
    Quote: Cool but not Igor
    Why waste resources on the automotive industry if the United States supplies some good used Humvees.

    And at the same time, resources can be reduced for social services - subsidies for communal services, the budget of the pension fund
    ... and in order to spend them, you still need to find ... the same rolled metal - production of general rolled metal for 11 months of 2013 - 26,625 million tons - "Export of rolled metal from Ukraine is 23-24 million tons" .. came 2020 - " Ukrmetallurgprom ", during January-November 2020, 16,72 million tons of metal products were produced. About 13,55 million tons were sent for export ... An agricultural superpower, of course, only this matter depends on the weather
  • janin
    janin 28 December 2020 22: 27
    +9
    "The issue of bankruptcy of the automobile company" Bogdan Motors "is being resolved in Ukraine!" small swim .. it is necessary to resolve the issue of the bankruptcy of Ukraine.
  • d1975
    d1975 28 December 2020 22: 31
    +1
    I am personally glad that the more factories are driven into 404, the more pots there will be. I personally saw the jumps to which they did not lead on TV, Yasinovataya, a rocket across the square in Makeyevka, to go nuts almost at the monument to the coal miner, it’s good that it just burst into the ground and didn’t rush. Yes, I was shocked. But there was no such unity as in Crimea. Seating on two chairs. Yes, and in the Kremlin, too, is not sour.
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 28 December 2020 22: 56
    0
    it is necessary to look at the root of everything the USA and the EU are to blame! who put their stavleniks into the power of Ukraine who, by their order, are crushing the population of the country!
  • TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 28 December 2020 23: 54
    -2
    What kind of plant is there?)))) Screwdriver assembly from Belarusian and Chinese car sets. They go bankrupt because the tax arrears there are crazy, so they decided to close them and leave all the debts to their loved ones, first of all, Parasha.