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Armenian Defense Ministry comments on statements about battles in Gadrut region of Karabakh

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Armenian Defense Ministry comments on statements about battles in Gadrut region of Karabakh

The Ministry of Defense of Armenia commented on the reports of the outbreak of hostilities in the area of ​​the village of Tokh of the Hadrut region of Nagorno-Karabakh, declaring full compliance with the ceasefire regime.


According to the report of the Armenian military department, the village of Tokh is under the full control of the Azerbaijani side, the units of the NKR defense army fully comply with the ceasefire regime, no incidents with the participation of Armenian military personnel have been recorded. There is a possibility of information provocation from Baku, additional information is being established.

A number of Azerbaijani media outlets report on renewed fighting between the Armenian and Azerbaijani military near the village of Tokh, Hadrut region. Also reported dead and injured on both sides. (...) The Artsakh Defense Army strictly adheres to the ceasefire regime (...) No incidents were recorded by the Artsakh Army

- declared in the Ministry of Defense.

In turn, the Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan announced an attack by an Armenian armed group on its positions in the Khojavend region of Nagorno-Karabakh. As a result of the clash, all the attackers were destroyed, the Azerbaijani side lost one person killed and one wounded.

On December 27 at 15:30 an illegal armed group of Armenians of six people attacked the units of the Azerbaijani army in the direction of the village of Agdam in the Khojavend region. As a result, one soldier died, another was wounded

- said in a statement.

Baku warned that in the event of a repetition of provocations, the Azerbaijani army will take a number of measures aimed at finally eliminating the threat that has arisen.
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  1. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 28 December 2020 11: 10
    -22%
    So the guerrilla war began, as I said. In general, Aliyev is not a very smart person, he opened the "Pandora's box", which is unknown when and how it will close.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 28 December 2020 11: 13
      +5
      Quote: TermNachTER
      So the guerrilla war began, as I said. In general, Aliyev is not a very smart person, he opened the "Pandora's box", which is unknown when and how it will close.

      This was to be expected, because both sides were dissatisfied.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 28 December 2020 11: 14
        -21%
        Then what's the point in all this? If everyone only gets worse. If anyone wins, it is Moscow.
        1. Vadim_888
          Vadim_888 28 December 2020 11: 18
          +6
          If anyone wins, it is Moscow.

          And what is the win?
          1. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 28 December 2020 11: 20
            -12%
            The fact that Moscow has entered the NKAO and will leave there only when it sees fit. Both Armenia and Azerbaijan are on the hook.
            1. Vadim_888
              Vadim_888 28 December 2020 11: 22
              +3
              But what about the Syrian mercenaries who are controlled by Turkey, if they start partisans against the peacekeepers?
              1. Sea breeze
                Sea breeze 2 January 2021 06: 55
                0
                Comrade! Syrian mercenaries are fighting in Syria with the Syrian authorities! Even if we imagine for a second that this is true, will Azerbaijan, seeing the international reaction, be recruiting mercenary units into its army as if nothing had happened? You probably really wanted it to be that way. Yes? Is your goal internationalization and incitement to conflict? Ali, you are a right-hander.
        2. ul_vitalii
          ul_vitalii 28 December 2020 11: 32
          +4
          Quote: TermNachTER
          Then what's the point in all this? If everyone only gets worse. If anyone wins, it is Moscow.

          But I will ask you to leave Moscow alone, in terms of profit, there is a lot of poop there without us, already tired of raking this shit. Sorovskoe, Erdoganovskoe.
      2. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 28 December 2020 11: 17
        +3
        .
        This was to be expected, because both sides were dissatisfied.

        Both? There are 4 sides at least ... hi
        1. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 28 December 2020 11: 21
          -5
          I meant only the direct participants in the conflict, and not all interested parties. If we count everyone who is "in business," then there are more than four of them.
          1. Vadim_888
            Vadim_888 28 December 2020 11: 27
            +2
            ... then there are more than four.

            Agree hi
    2. Anar
      Anar 28 December 2020 11: 20
      -3
      So the guerrilla war began, as I said. In general, Aliyev is not a very smart person, he opened the "Pandora's box", which is unknown when and how it will close.

      It will close quickly, the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh will suffer for every such trick. As Aliyev forced the parents of the Armenian soldiers themselves to catch and hand over the tractor driver who was burying the Azerbaijani soldiers, so the partisan will close the topic. Armenians are very strong nationalists (but not a warlike people to play partisans.
      If the whole army withstood only 44 days of fighting, the terrorist guerrillas will survive much less.
      Armenians are not Chechens .....
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 28 December 2020 11: 24
        -12%
        Nu-nu, let's see)))) I will not even explain, you will see for yourself, and soon enough. I thought they would wait until spring, when the brilliant green appears and the earth dries up, but apparently they decided not to wait.
        1. Anar
          Anar 28 December 2020 11: 28
          +1
          And the most important thing is that the territory is too small for partisan games. These are not the vast expanses of Belarus or Ukraine.
          It is only 150 km long and 80 km wide.
          1. Vadim_888
            Vadim_888 28 December 2020 11: 34
            +5
            ... It is only 150 km long and 80 km wide.
            this is on the map, but there are mountains, and this is a different alignment
            1. Anar
              Anar 28 December 2020 11: 39
              +4
              I agree that the terrain is difficult, but the partisans are also not mountainous) They also need to move and survive.
          2. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 28 December 2020 11: 42
            -8
            Have you heard about the Crimean? It was much more difficult there.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 28 December 2020 11: 28
        +12
        Quote: Anar
        Armenians are not Chechens .....

        The Armenians of Dashnaktsutyun have such a party, now renamed, so that there are terrorists.
        I remember even in the Union the Armenians introduced terrorist activities
        1. Anar
          Anar 28 December 2020 11: 30
          +3
          Quote: RUSS
          The Armenians of Dashnaktsutyun have such a party, now renamed, so that there are terrorists.
          I remember even in the Union the Armenians introduced terrorist activities

          I completely agree with you. As a race, this party organized the pogroms in Sumgait and sabotage in Karabakh.
          1. Sofa batyr
            Sofa batyr 28 December 2020 11: 53
            +3
            Quote: Anar
            How races this party organized the pogroms in Sumgait


            Strange how it is Armenians , even if from "Dashnaktsutyun", so cleverly, quickly and unconstrainedly managed to incite (arouse) Azerbaijanis to pogroms in Sumgait, Baku?
            1. wmn5500
              wmn5500 28 December 2020 12: 31
              0
              Before that, in November 87, with the help of the Armenian militia and the party leadership, they were able to expel more than 4000 Azerbaijanis from Kafan in Armenia, who were concentrated in Sumgait! And with this they created that critical mass that was not difficult to kindle as a result of their situation. So I think a more detailed study of the question will remove the question you have given.
              1. Airdefense
                Airdefense 28 December 2020 22: 11
                -3
                And why did the local administration and the police do nothing to stop the pogroms? Yes, you can study the issue in detail and be horrified by the cruelty and fencing off that some, that others. One glorification of the Azerbaijani “gallant war” who hacked to death an Armenian with an ax removes all questions.
                Just admit that you have a mutual irreconcilable enmity and you are ready to cut and kill each other, and there is already a video from this conflict how you cut each other's heads.
                1. wmn5500
                  wmn5500 28 December 2020 22: 24
                  0
                  There was no heroization, it was Armenian propaganda. The reception was honorable! But this is just a copy of the Armenians. I suggest studying the information about a certain Varuzhan Karapetyan. This terrorist killed not one person, but a dozen and wounded as many, thus earning honor and respect in the Armenian society.
                  To your question, I can put forward a counter question: Why did the Armenian militia and the party leadership do nothing to prevent the forcible expulsion of thousands of Azerbaijanis from their homes? Moreover, as I wrote above, this act was undertaken even before the open initiation of the conflict in Karabakh, namely in November 1987. Whereas the decision of the NKAO regional committee took place in February 1988. Does it make you think? I think there were planned steps to sever part of the territory of Azerbaijan with the motivation of irreconcilable enmity, for which the pogroms in Sumgait were provoked with the participation of a critical mass in the person of those very first Azerbaijani refugees! The presence of such a plan does not exclude some connection already in the leadership of the Sumgait police, which in fact remained indifferent. Although there should have been explosives as well, they were not there either! It looks like a conspiracy!
                  1. Airdefense
                    Airdefense 28 December 2020 23: 03
                    -2
                    There was no heroization, it was Armenian propaganda.

                    and write yourself

                    The reception was honorable!

                    and why do you refer all the time to the Armenians .., but they are .., that is, you yourself are no better, about which I write, you have mutual hatred and you are ready to arrange genocide for each other and did it on a local scale. Rather, it speaks of the immaturity of both peoples, despite the "rich" history.
                    1. wmn5500
                      wmn5500 28 December 2020 23: 21
                      0
                      Honor is not heroization! These are different concepts! If you read to the end, you could not help but notice that I assumed a conspiracy! Perhaps corrupt ties and maybe something more! Although there may be elementary confusion and unwillingness to take decisive action without special instructions from the top. All the same, under the USSR, the initiative was punishable. These are all questions, but they in no way negate the fact that the initiation of the conflict and the provocation with pogroms were carried out by the Armenians themselves, or rather by their ideological leaders. Below there is a post by "VyacheSeymour", where an item from the instructions of the Dashnaks is given, and this directly indicates the possibility of such plans and their implementation.
                      1. Airdefense
                        Airdefense 28 December 2020 23: 46
                        -2
                        Now you are no different from the Armenians, you are chasing your own propaganda, and all your questions do not negate the fact that pogroms with murders, rapes, etc., were done by ordinary Azerbaijanis and there is absolutely nothing to justify them, just like the complete inaction of the administration. Well, in fact, it looks ridiculous to attract Armenians for organizing pogroms against them.
                      2. wmn5500
                        wmn5500 29 December 2020 00: 10
                        -1
                        I understand your distrust. But still, let's look at the question from the other side. Let's put the age-old question in investigations, who benefits from "Cui bono ?, Cui prodest?" And let's try to answer it, proceeding purely from logic, regardless of preferences. I think the beneficiary of such events is obvious. And this is not the Azerbaijani side. Remember what followed those pogroms, I think here and without imposed conclusions it is clear who was behind what, and who, which side became the beneficiary!
                      3. Airdefense
                        Airdefense 29 December 2020 00: 21
                        -2
                        This reminds me of the reasoning that the Jews themselves organized the genocide, since Israel received reparations, you can invent any kind of conspiracy, but the fact remains that Azerbaijanis were killed and raped with the full connivance of the local authorities.
                        You just do not want to admit that you really stand each other, and in contact when you posted a video of how two Azerbaijanis cut off the head of an old man in Karabakh, then immediately the first comments of Azerbaijanis look at what the Armenians are doing with the captive Azerbaijanis give a link in which the Armenians brutally kill the captive Azerbaijanis and there the Armenians are already writing a "surprise", but look at the Azerbaijanis.
                      4. wmn5500
                        wmn5500 29 December 2020 00: 34
                        -2
                        About the old man, video fake! The rest, anything can happen in war! I also remember a video where the "Wagnerians" used a sledgehammer to beat a captive Ishilov soldier and then behead them and burned them! War reveals the most impartial aspects of human psychology. But is it really necessary to draw a conclusion about the immaturity of the nation from this ?! My reasoning is quite logical and is confirmed by the very essence of the conflict and the program of the Dashnaktsutyun party. I think Vyache Seymour will not be offended if I copy part of his post with the points of the game's program, I apologize to him in advance.
                        So here they are: "Every dead Armenian should shout: - The Turks killed me! And it doesn't matter who killed him!" and more "We will make the Turks shoot at us!" I already referred to this but you still did not want to take note of it.
                        Summing up, I want to convey this idea; I do not intend to convince you of something, I propose to think about it, because not everything that the Armenian propaganda broadcasts and those who repeat after it is the truth. Not everything is as clean as it is presented.
                      5. Airdefense
                        Airdefense 29 December 2020 18: 58
                        0
                        About the old man, video fake!

                        Yes, no, not a fake, like the photographs of the soldiers of the Azerbaijani army with their heads cut off, moreover, they could even be identified.
                      6. wmn5500
                        wmn5500 29 December 2020 22: 20
                        -1
                        Well, apparently from where you are best known! Although I have already noted above that I do not intend to convince, I suggest thinking! Moreover, I also noted about the actions of Russian fighters, so I think all this should be taken into account.
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 28 December 2020 12: 22
    +2
    Quote: Anar
    How races this party organized the pogroms in Sumgait

    Organized pogroms against Armenians?
    1. VyacheSeymour
      VyacheSeymour 28 December 2020 20: 59
      +1

      Mordvin 3
      Today, 12: 22

      +1
      Quote: Anar
      How races this party organized the pogroms in Sumgait

      Organized pogroms against Armenians?

      I don’t remember from which of the Soviet historians I read about one of the points in the instructions of the Dashnaks during the First World War, but literally the meaning was this: “Every dead Armenian should shout:“ The Turks killed me! And it doesn't matter who killed him! ”
      And one more quote from the same party: - “We will force the Turks to shoot at us!” So ​​I am not surprised ... Provacions = corpses, followed by universal cries of another genocide! About the obligation of everyone and everything to fit in for them ... For a couple of centuries, nothing new ... - the circulation of starlings in nature.
      1. Airdefense
        Airdefense 28 December 2020 23: 04
        0
        You will agree that there was no Armenian genocide either.
        1. VyacheSeymour
          VyacheSeymour 28 December 2020 23: 46
          -1
          You will agree that there was no Armenian genocide either.

          Why should I call the mutual beating in the Ottoman Empire genocide? - a word that appeared decades later?
          Just because the Armenians are running around the world like chickens with an egg?
          1. Airdefense
            Airdefense 28 December 2020 23: 50
            0
            Well, you can not name it, demonstrating either your ignorance or bias. The Turks also do not recognize their actions as genocide.
            1. VyacheSeymour
              VyacheSeymour 28 December 2020 23: 53
              0
              Well, you can not name, demonstrating either your ignorance or bias

              As I understand it, there are only two opinions: - One is yours and the other is not correct?
              1. Airdefense
                Airdefense 28 December 2020 23: 56
                0
                Why there is historical research, there is international recognition.
              2. VyacheSeymour
                VyacheSeymour 29 December 2020 00: 06
                0
                Why there is historical research, there is international recognition

                Historical studies are both recognizing these events and denying ... Which are more and which are more reliable - a big question.
                In my opinion, international recognition for the sake of political conjuncture is also worth little, if not even more rude.
                For example, I am still interested in what prevents Armenia from opening its historical archives on this topic to historians and putting a bullet point on this issue?
              3. Airdefense
                Airdefense 29 December 2020 00: 14
                0
                There is such a “problem” that not so long ago there are still living witnesses of the massacres of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire. Well, the fact that Turkey and its “vassal” Azerbaijan deny the fact of genocide, although they admit that there were victims (it is impossible to hide at all) using your term “mutual beating”, well, that there is nothing new here, what a cowardly position.
                Actually, you, too, are no better at trying to shift the blame for the pogrom in Sumgait onto the Armenians.
              4. VyacheSeymour
                VyacheSeymour 29 December 2020 02: 00
                0
                Actually, you, too, are no better at trying to shift the blame for the pogrom in Sumgait onto the Armenians.

                In your opinion, I proposed the idea of ​​a miatsum? Or I mean rejection
                the world of one-sided redrawing of borders, quickly changed the shoe
                in the right of nations to self-determination and necessarily in the form of independence?
                All I know is that all separatists need to be cleared.
                living space from foreigners, in order to declare themselves loved by the only rightholders to the lands of both their habitat and the lands of their neighbors. Squeals about oppression, squeezing, assimilation and robbery by the center, etc., are a typical set in the arsenal of any separatist. Also, the Armenians, claiming the lands of Eastern Turkey, deny the rights to the same lands of the same Kurds, with whom they enthusiastically slaughtered to death in the same 15th year.

                And why can't I suppose, but rather even accept the version about the involvement of Armenians in the pogrom in Sumgait? After all, after that, according to the Armenians, they allegedly received carte blanche to redraw the borders in the Karabakh zone. And given the number of killed, both known and unknown Armenians by representatives of both Dashnaks and other groups and parties in the name of HIGH IDEAS, I still tend to opinion that the tragedy in Sumgait had experienced and valuable directors!

                Have you avoided answering the question why the Armenians do not allow historians to access the archives proving the reality of the genocide?
                What prevents to put an end to the discrepancies on this issue?

                PS
                Why do Armenians not allow specialists to investigate "SPEAR OF DESTINY" - the only thing left not studied ???
              5. Airdefense
                Airdefense 29 December 2020 18: 56
                0
                And why can't I suppose, but rather even accept the version about the involvement of Armenians in the pogrom in Sumgait? After all, after that, in the opinion of the Armenians, they allegedly received carte blanche to redraw the borders in the Karabakh zone. And given the number of killed, both known and unknown Armenians by representatives of both Dashnaks and other groups and parties in the name of HIGH IDEAS, I still tend to opinion that the tragedy in Sumgait had experienced and valuable directors!

                So, as a result, Azerbaijanis killed, raped Armenians, killed children under the tacit approval of the majority in Baku, and at the same time the Armenians are to blame. A simple question is why official Baku was inactive? Whatever puppeteers there were, but if the leadership wanted to prevent pogroms, it would have prevented them.

                Have you avoided answering the question why the Armenians do not allow historians to access the archives proving the reality of the genocide?
                What prevents to put an end to the discrepancies on this issue?


                Because this is a completely meaningless question, you yourself will not even be able to formulate which specific archives are required to open from the Armenian side and you are engaged in sophistry. If you wish, you will find all the historical documents, records of witnesses, photographs, all this was provided to the UN quite a long time ago.
              6. VyacheSeymour
                VyacheSeymour 29 December 2020 22: 46
                -2
                you yourself will not be able to formulate which specific archives are required to open from the Armenian side and are engaged in sophistry.

                I am not a historian and not an archivist to know this. But if there is irrefutable specifics, what prevents historians from being presented to the court, and the documents you listed should be transferred to The Hague, since I have not heard about a single UN resolution on this matter?

                Well, you can not name, demonstrating either your ignorance or bias

                If I do not agree with your opinion, it means that I am ignorant or
                biased! It is this formulation of the evidence base that does not suit me! It is the evidentiary base formed on gengling with a taphtology of the type: - this is "well-known", "proven", "irrefutable" and other ... th fact, proven
                the most famous, authoritative, etc. historians,
                scientists ... makes me remain unconvinced.


                Not a modest question: - What genocides did Armenia recognize?
                And how does Official Armenia treat the denial of the Holocaust by the Iranian leadership?
              7. Airdefense
                Airdefense 29 December 2020 23: 23
                0
                I am not a historian and not an archivist to know this. But if there is irrefutable specifics, what prevents historians from being presented to the court, and the documents you listed should be transferred to The Hague, since I have not heard about a single UN resolution on this matter?

                Well, then you can spend a little time at least with Wikipedia, and then follow the links to various documents.

                Not a modest question: - What genocides did Armenia recognize?
                And how does Official Armenia treat the denial of the Holocaust by the Iranian leadership?


                Again you start "but the Armenians ..", I do not know how the Armenians feel about the denial of the Holocaust by Iran.
              8. VyacheSeymour
                VyacheSeymour 30 December 2020 00: 03
                0
                Well, then you can spend a little time at least with Wikipedia, and then follow the links to various documents.

                Well, my opinion on this topic was formed long before links and Wikipedia - in the days of libraries ... how long ago it was!
                Again you start "but the Armenians .."

                Yes, the Armenians don't give a damn about bells and whistles to me, until they get them with their mania and loans, for which the whole world owes them something.
  • Anar
    Anar 29 December 2020 10: 39
    -2
    Was he? Armenia accuses Turkey of genocide. Turkey said let's open both your archives and ours and see what happened in those years. Armenia answers - No! There will be no archives! Our scientists said everything and everything!
    Conclusion, the Armenian genocide is built on the epic transmitted from year to year. The accused party (Turkey) states that it is necessary to create a "scientific colloquium" in equal proportions on one side and the other in order to investigate everything that happened. The Prosecutor (Armenia) declares that there is nothing to study, we made the decisions we are right.
    My personal conclusion is that there was no genocide, there was a war and the Armenians lost it then (as now) and began to shout about genocide. In the news feeds and now again there was a statement of the same class, but everyone realized that this was another lie (as then) and it died down.
  • RUSS
    RUSS 28 December 2020 15: 37
    +5
    Quote: Anar
    I completely agree with you. As a race, this party organized the pogroms in Sumgait and sabotage in Karabakh.

    There was also a series of explosions in the Moscow metro in 1977
  • janin
    janin 28 December 2020 12: 27
    +8
    are you familiar with the term hypocrisy ?? and you should still study and study before Aliyev ... in this particular case, all the provocations and instability are the tricks of the Armenians. they are the beneficiaries of instability. it is beneficial for them to push Russia and Turkey. no one will allow the Armenians to create controlled chaos in the region .. Russia and Turkey are not interested. all the more so, Russia is here as the guarantor of peace in Karabakh.
    1. Artavazdych
      Artavazdych 28 December 2020 12: 51
      -6
      Yeah, Turkey is completely uninteresting! It is without any interest that 300 Turkish special forces and about 2000 Syrian militants fought there.
      Well, yes - how can Russia and Turkey be quarreled? Putin called Erdogan a friend. Recently called a real man. Erdogan called Putin brother.
      PS Your vocabulary seems to be good, but with punctuation and declensions, the exact opposite. This suggests that you are either overly anxious or have a strong characteristic accent.
      1. Skarpzd
        Skarpzd 28 December 2020 13: 08
        +2
        An old wisdom says: if an oriental (well, let's say) person called you a friend - he is going to deceive you (he put it politically correctly), if he called you a brother - he has already deceived you.
        1. Artavazdych
          Artavazdych 28 December 2020 13: 18
          -6
          Well, that saying about, let's say, oriental people. Erdogan is purely European.
      2. Anar
        Anar 29 December 2020 10: 48
        0
        Have you seen these Syrians? Or do you believe the words of the Armenian epic masters, to put it mildly? Aliyev said two months ago prove the facts. There is still no proof. Not alive, not dead, not video, not audio. Current words by Pashinyan and Harutyunyan. And their words are more lies than truth.
  • prior
    prior 28 December 2020 11: 20
    -8
    In reality, there is only one way out for Yerevan - to hold a referendum and join Russia as an autonomous republic, like Crimea. No allied states. Thank you, ate with Belarus.
    And that's it! All other problems will be solved by themselves.
    Otherwise, the seams. And don't say you weren't warned.
    1. Anar
      Anar 28 December 2020 11: 23
      +5
      In reality, there is only one way out for Yerevan - to hold a referendum and become part of Russia

      for Armenians yes, but for Russians it will be a heavy blow. If foreigners in Russia behave as if they are citizens and local residents are foreigners, then when they become citizens of Russia, what will they do.
      1. prior
        prior 28 December 2020 11: 27
        -4
        I think this is not a blow for Russia, we have seen everything and there are still enough "holes on the belt".
        But as an example for other former Soviet republics, it is very indicative.
        And they are foreign citizens while they are foreigners. Ours will be - the labor code and the National Guard to help.
      2. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 28 December 2020 11: 29
        +1
        ... then when they are citizens of Russia that they will create.

        They will have to pay Russian taxes hi laughing
    2. Avior
      Avior 28 December 2020 11: 56
      +4
      And how will this help the Armenians to resolve the Karabakh issue?
      1. Vadim_888
        Vadim_888 28 December 2020 12: 20
        +1
        ... And how will this help the Armenians to resolve the Karabakh issue?
        will follow the East Timor scenario
        1. Avior
          Avior 28 December 2020 16: 54
          +1
          What is the script and how will they follow it?
  • Borodach
    Borodach 28 December 2020 11: 33
    +5
    Now Karabakh will be like Afghanistan for Azerbaijan. Sorties terrorists, terrorist attacks. Very sorry.
    The only correct decision will be the complete disarmament of the Armenian armed men. Actually, this was in the trilateral agreement.
    Azerbaijan needs to buy a couple of Apache (or its equivalent). Ideally, the AC130. There is no other way with the partisans. You don't need to take them prisoner. This was a big mistake. Destroy in place.
    These terrorists (you can call them partisans, whatever you like) will only interfere with the peaceful coexistence of Azerbaijan and Armenia, and the influence of the Russian Federation in the region and its peacekeeping activities.
    1. Anar
      Anar 28 December 2020 11: 37
      +2
      I agree, and the most important thing is to work closely with the peacekeepers of the Russian Federation. This is the main aspect of the fight against partisans.
      In the first sortie of the partisans, they were stopped, disarmed and taken to Armenia (Aliyev showed humanity). The second sortie thought that the maximum would be the same. And there is no here already all 6 rye destroyed. This is a message to the others.
      1. Rusland
        Rusland 28 December 2020 11: 42
        0
        Quote: Anar
        I agree, and the most important thing is to work closely with the peacekeepers of the Russian Federation. This is the main aspect of the fight against partisans.
        In the first sortie of the partisans, they were stopped, disarmed and taken to Armenia (Aliyev showed humanity). The second sortie thought that the maximum would be the same. And there is no here already all 6 rye destroyed. This is a message to the others.

        Drinking honey and beer with your lips, you will not get a beautiful war, unlike the last beautiful victory, with a parade and the rest. Unfortunately, all the goodies are ahead, you are not the first winners.
  • Avior
    Avior 28 December 2020 11: 37
    +3
    Bad.
    a matter of time when the peacekeepers will be in the line of fire: (((
    1. tagil
      tagil 28 December 2020 16: 45
      0
      "The Hadrut region is not a zone for the peacekeeping operation of the Russian Armed Forces. This region is under the full control of Baku, but if partisans or saboteurs really attacked their posts and objects there, then this is the fault of the Azerbaijani Armed Forces themselves at the front posts." They can turn out, but an attack on peacekeepers is fraught with irreparable damage to health.
      1. Avior
        Avior 28 December 2020 16: 48
        +6
        If they came from the territory controlled by the peacekeepers and continue, then sooner or later there will be a response
        1. tagil
          tagil 28 December 2020 16: 52
          0
          In general, these were the militias.
          The Ministry of Defense of Azerbaijan has just confirmed information about the clash in Nagorno-Karabakh. Our night information was confirmed that encircled people from the units of the Artsakh / Armenian Armed Forces, who were separated from their forces and hiding in the mountainous and wooded areas of the NKR, participated in the attack.
          1. Avior
            Avior 28 December 2020 17: 14
            0
            If so, then such situations will quickly disappear.
  • Suslin
    Suslin 28 December 2020 12: 32
    +1
    The guerrilla war on the territory that has passed under the jurisdiction of Azerbaijan will be merciless and useless!
  • Suleyman
    Suleyman 28 December 2020 12: 47
    0
    Quote: TermNachTER
    Aliyev is not a very smart person, he opened the "Pandora's box", which is unknown when and how it will close.

    Putin has these boxes all over the world in bulk!
  • Suleyman
    Suleyman 28 December 2020 12: 48
    +1
    Quote: TermNachTER
    The fact that Moscow has entered the NKAO and will leave there only when it sees fit. Both Armenia and Azerbaijan are on the hook.

    And in my opinion there are 2000 souls of the RF MS on the hook.
  • Suleyman
    Suleyman 28 December 2020 12: 56
    +1
    Quote: Anar
    So the guerrilla war began, as I said. In general, Aliyev is not a very smart person, he opened the "Pandora's box", which is unknown when and how it will close.

    It will close quickly, the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh will suffer for every such trick. As Aliyev forced the parents of the Armenian soldiers themselves to catch and hand over the tractor driver who was burying the Azerbaijani soldiers, so the partisan will close the topic. Armenians are very strong nationalists (but not a warlike people to play partisans.
    If the whole army withstood only 44 days of fighting, the terrorist guerrillas will survive much less.
    Armenians are not Chechens .....

    What other guerrillas? Don't make an elephant out of a fly. This is the part of the militias who were surrounded by their grub, and to eat each other somehow not in Armenian. And they are reluctant to surrender, since among them there are those who committed genocide of Azerbaijanis back in the first Karabakh war. Well, also, infa passes that they were all destroyed.
  • Suleyman
    Suleyman 28 December 2020 13: 00
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    Quote: RUSS
    Quote: Anar
    Armenians are not Chechens .....

    The Armenians of Dashnaktsutyun have such a party, now renamed, so that there are terrorists.
    I remember even in the Union the Armenians introduced terrorist activities

    Of course I remember. Only the Moscow subway and Orly airport are not the mountains of Karabakh wink
  • Suleyman
    Suleyman 28 December 2020 13: 05
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    Quote: Anar
    How races this party organized the pogroms in Sumgait


    Strange how it is Armenians , even if from "Dashnaktsutyun", so cleverly, quickly and unconstrainedly managed to incite (arouse) Azerbaijanis to pogroms in Sumgait, Baku?

    What's the problem?
    This type still lives happily ever after in Russia.


  • Suleyman
    Suleyman 28 December 2020 13: 09
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    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Anar
    How races this party organized the pogroms in Sumgait

    Organized pogroms against Armenians?

    Of course! The fact of the matter is that an ordinary Russian who is not in the subject and watching all sorts of talk shows on TV is pumped up with all sorts of nonsense about Sumgait and, in general, about Azerbaijanis.
    1. tagil
      tagil 28 December 2020 16: 49
      +2
      The fact of the matter is that an ordinary Russian who is not in the subject and watching all sorts of talk shows on TV is pumped up with all sorts of nonsense about Sumgait and about Azerbaijanis in general.
      Or maybe we see Azerbaijanis and their behavior in our country every day? However, like the Armenians.
      1. Suleyman
        Suleyman 28 December 2020 17: 58
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        I do not argue. There are degenerates everywhere and in every nation. Only there are Azerbaijanis of a completely different level in Russia. I personally have always been of the opinion that all inadequate people need to be urgently either imprisoned or deported! These people do not reflect the face of my people. Exactly like the Armenians, idiots do not reflect the face of normal and adequate Armenians. Do whatever you want with them.
        1. tagil
          tagil 28 December 2020 18: 56
          +2
          For the first time I come across an adequate answer, in which it does not try to somehow justify, let's say, the disagreeable actions of their compatriots. The fact that there are more normal people, in any nation, is indisputable, but for some reason, not the best representatives always come out ahead, hence everyone is judged.
  • Suleyman
    Suleyman 28 December 2020 13: 11
    +3
    Quote: Artavazdych
    It is without any interest that 300 Turkish special forces and about 2000 Syrian militants fought there.

    Don't lie, but .. Do you have docks? Lay out at least one. Otherwise, you are balabol.
  • Suleyman
    Suleyman 28 December 2020 13: 25
    +1
    Quote: Avior
    And how will this help the Armenians to resolve the Karabakh issue?

    No way!
    At a meeting of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR on July 18, 1988, dedicated to the situation around the NKAO of the Azerbaijan SSR, General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee M. Gorbachev asked S. Hambardzumyan:

    MS Gorbachev: "Tell me, at the beginning of the century, how many Azerbaijanis were there in Yerevan?"

    S.A. Hambartsumyan: “At the beginning of the century, in Yerevan?”

    M.S. Gorbachev: “Yes.”

    S.A. Hambartsumyan: “I am at a loss to say.”

    M.S. Gorbachev: “You must know. I remind you - 43 percent of Azerbaijanis were in Yerevan at the beginning of the century. Now what is the percentage of Azerbaijanis? ”

    S.A. Hambartsumyan: “Now there are very few. Probably one percent. "

    MS Gorbachev: “And at the same time I do not want to blame the Armenians that they survived the Azerbaijanis from there. Apparently, there were some processes going on, which generally need to be sorted out "

    (Materials from a meeting of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR published in the Pravda newspaper of July 19, 1988).
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 28 December 2020 21: 01
    +2
    Quote: TermNachTER
    So the guerrilla war began, as I said. In general, Aliyev is not a very smart person, he opened the "Pandora's box", which is unknown when and how it will close.

    This guerrilla "war" will end very quickly if the peacekeepers do not prevent Az.VS from clearing the nearby forests. In fact, of course, these are not partisans, just Armenian saboteurs, and very unlucky ones, they are almost immediately destroyed on the spot, but sometimes they manage to do harm.
  • Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 28 December 2020 21: 05
    +2
    Quote: Vadim_888
    But what about the Syrian mercenaries who are controlled by Turkey, if they start partisans against the peacekeepers?

    Where are they, these Syrian mercenaries? I'm sure you've seen them yourself.
  • Airdefense
    Airdefense 28 December 2020 22: 05
    +1
    It is stupid and pointless, it was necessary to fight earlier, now, when everything has already been decided and Russia has brought in peacekeepers, the Armenians have to accept everything as it is, well, or if they consider Karabakh their territory, take up the country's economy, reform the army, in general, become a first world country and not live at the expense of Russia.