Ukrainian politician: Novorossiya project is not over

Representatives of the Ukrainian opposition made a number of statements on the subject that the country in the medium term can say goodbye to a number of its territories.

One of those who made such a statement is Gennady Moskal (ex-head of the Lugansk, and then Transcarpathian regional state administrations, ex-deputy of the Verkhovna Rada, Lieutenant General of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, retired).

According to Gennady Moskal, expressed for the Ukrainian media, "the Novorossiya project is not over." He noted that for some reason everyone is confident in the completion of this "project".

Gennady Moskal:

I just want to remind you that the project includes six regions of Ukraine - Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev and Kherson.

The Ukrainian politician notes that Ukraine can lose these areas.

It should be recalled that earlier in Ukraine they talked about the possibility of losing territories in the event of a new Maidan, which may "turn out to be even more destructive than the previous one." At the same time, among Ukrainian politicians, including former ones, for some reason it is not customary to consider the possibility of losing the western regions. But this can be no less relevant for Kiev. For example, in the Transcarpathian Beregovo in the local council, for the first time in many years, Hungarian-leaning parties won the majority. People from the SBU came to the representatives of one of the parties with searches.

Earlier in the west of Ukraine they announced the formation of de facto federal bodies of power, including the proclamation of "their own president." The latter takes place without a central legislative framework. All this indicates either the need for Ukraine to move to full-fledged federalization, or that it can really simply lose a significant part of its territories.

Comments

[armannu]

Maidan is good!
But somehow he is late ...

[Victor_B]

Quote: armannu

Maidan is good!
But somehow he is late ...

Duc costs 3 billion dollars to deliver and everything will work out.
Only from where?
Russia cannot single out such grandmas, because they will immediately turn out to be undemocratic and alien. Wrong, in general, bucks.
(How much the Maidan cost the states was reported in plain text by Nuland - exactly three yards! For the states, under such a success - this is 10 kopecks from a leaky pocket ...)

[Hunter 2]

Nuland needs to be "bribed" - it will come out cheaper and her pensioner will have something to do! She's also making cookies!

[Temples]

The Novorossiya project is not over

So it (the project of Novorossiya) did not start.
They cheered in the media while the rating allowed and calmed down.

The Anglo-Saxon Ukraine project took place. It is a fact.

And so far we cannot return what we have lost.

And who needs it now?
Economists will explain that this is not profitable.
There are no hydrocarbons or other minerals there.

For officials, people are the expenditure side of the budget.

[hydrox]

This is a misconception.
I can name more pluses that no one pays attention to:
1. This is uranium in Yellow Waters,
2. This is a direct route to the PMR and the lifting of the blockade,
3. This is our border with Moldova and giving it the opportunity to supply vegetables, fruits and wine to our agricultural market (if it behaves well!),
4. This is the Dnieper water to the Crimea and the LDNR FOREVER,
5. This is electricity to the Crimea from the Kakhovska hydroelectric station

[Boris Nevzorov]

The war in Nagorno-Karabakh clearly showed what happens to "frozen" conflicts ... Therefore, the border of the LPR should pass along the border of Transnistria. Then there will be peace and quiet!

[g1v2]

The Novorossiya project did not even begin. Just because this is not a project. This is a historical region that we conquered from the Crimean Khanate and settled by Great Russians from the Russian hinterland. This name was forgotten during the Soviet era, but in 14 it was remembered and will not be forgotten now.
The Anglo-Saxon Ukraine project failed miserably. They did not succeed in creating a center for the Guam bloc and a counterbalance to Russia in the manner of Pakistan for India. Ukraine has nothing more to blackmail us, industry is falling apart, the country is becoming impoverished. The APU is degrading due to the deterioration of fixed assets. Ukraine cannot replace the same volumes. These reserves were created by one superpower for the war against another superpower. To create the same dill is not possible. As the equipment deteriorates further, the Armed Forces will move to more compact sizes and the purchase of foreign equipment for replacement. After that, it will practically no longer pose a military threat.

[Boris Nevzorov]

Ukraine must return to the borders of Ukraine - the Galician forest that fled from the Poles.

[Mar.Tirah]

Quote: Victor_B

Russia cannot single out such grandmas, because they will immediately turn out to be undemocratic and alien.

Putin tried to do this under Yanukovych. Until now we cannot return. He hoped for the prudence of the mind of the Ukrainian people and flew by. And now all the media in Ukraine gradually began to howl that during European integration, the West needs them as a third-rate people with its natural resources, and that with Russia is better, but give Crimea, Donbass, forgive blood, death, deprivation for the sake of a handful of oligarchs interested in getting rich on this. And off topic, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has released calendars for the new year. You can download the link. Https://xn - 80ahclcogc6ci4h .xn - 90anlfbebar6i.xn - p1ai / multimedia / calendar2021.htm

[Boris Nevzorov]

When Russia returned to Sevastopol. It was something! We cried with happiness.
In Odessa, Nikolaev. Kharkov will be the same

[Ilya-spb]

The politician has a good surname! Talking! Moskal!

How was he allowed with that name?

[andrewkor]

Popcorn and beer is running out

[iouris]

Do not ask what the Maidan should do for you. What did you do for the Maidan yourself? (D.F. Kennedy, US President)

[Vladimir_2U]

At the same time, among Ukrainian politicians, including former ones, for some reason it is not customary to consider the possibility of losing the western regions.

Too complex analytics for non-brothers, it seems, because from the West, in their opinion, only inexpressible goodness comes.

[Pessimist22]

Moskal slanders Muscovites

[A good one]

And how could they not turn his head away for such a name?

[Revolver]

Quote: Not bad

And how could they not turn his head away for such a name?

Moskalyaku to Gilyaka! © Maidan 2014

[Revolver]

Quote: Pessimist22

Moskal slanders Muscovites

And what about the skache, what about?

[Profiler]

Quote: Nagan

And what about the skache, what about?

This one - they have one of the most frantic and consistent skakuas, with all his body visions and actions striving to prove that Moskal is not a Muscovite.

[nnm]

Doubtful. After we ourselves left the LDNR in limbo without including them in the Russian Federation, we ourselves discouraged other regions of Ukraine from going the same way. If at some point Ukraine starts to fall apart due to various reasons - yes, the Russian spring may continue, but in other cases - no. And we ourselves are to blame for that.
And the essence of what Moskal said is simple - a call to knock out everything that reminds of Russia from the south and east of Ukraine.

[Profiler]

Quote: nnm

Doubtful. After we ourselves left the LDNR in limbo without including them in the Russian Federation, we ourselves discouraged other regions of Ukraine from following the same path.

God works in mysterious ways. Who knows what tomorrow will be ...

[nnm]

This is yes. But I'm talking about the "as is" state. Of course, everything can change in one moment, but so far there are no prerequisites for this.

[hydrox]

There were no prerequisites for the return of the Crimea either, but how it turned out.

[nnm]

Not true. Crimea was eager to leave the Ukrainian SSR in a referendum on January 20, 1991.

[hydrox]

You would control your speeches :: no one is interested in what was happening in the USSR in the 90s in order to understand both you and the West - why is it that the world community has not yet recognized the results of the Crimean referendum and the annexation of Crimea to Russia?
Or is there something else written down in your training manual?

[nnm]

To be honest, I absolutely do not care what the West recognizes there, what it does not. Absolutely indifferent.

[A good one]

The cat knows whose meat it ate.

[Incvizitor]

I had a bite.

[Antidote]

Not a day without "what is there at х0хл0в". Keep it up, IN!

[Zaurbek]

In general, an interesting idea: you provoke the Natsiks to the Maidan, the power is out, then you honestly take the territory.

[andrewkor]

I fully support you with this idea. "Soft power" seems to be called.

[Zaurbek]

The most important thing is that the territories will come running themselves.

[rotmistr60]

the country in the medium term can say goodbye to a number of its territories.

Everything goes to this. Even stubborn nationalists in the depths of their brain, dying off against the background of terry Russophobia, understand this, but continue to bend their line. What they stubbornly go to, in the end they will get it.

[Magic archer]

These are the Muscovites who ruined Ukraine. While they are shouting that Russia is to blame for everything, they do not see that they are being robbed by their own. The law on land has been passed, casinos will be opened, prostitution and drugs will be legalized, all that remains is to open legal clinics for organ transplants and, in principle, the country can be dismantled. The Carpathians, the Hungarians, the Poles, the West, and we all the east. And leave the native lands. And that's enough

[Ros 56]

That's what Moskal means, a comrade with such a curly surname speaks the truth.

[Pavel73]

Transcarpathia - Hungary, Bukovina - Romania, Galicia - Poland, South-East - Russia. And everyone will be happy. And maybe even make friends. Life in Ukraine will get better only when people who are completely different in origin and mentality are no longer forcibly forced to live in one state.

[Magic archer]

And I got a minus for practically the same words! Where's the justice)))?!

[faiver]

life is generally unfair

[andrewkor]

Compensation from me. I'm kind in the morning

[Souchastnik]

I gave you a plus sign, don't be upset

[Egoza]

Quote: Pavel73

South-East - Russia. And everyone will be happy. And maybe even make friends.

Why only the South-East? Return all Little Russia to the Russian Federation, headed by Kiev. Otherwise, there will be no good, they will always plan some kind of pod, and there will be those who want to "help" in this!

[Souchastnik]

Unfortunately, everyone only learns from their mistakes. Therefore, before the euphoria from an independent, happy life without Russia passes, the "independent" must choke on impurities and understand who needs them with their independent position and for what. And when the brain turns on, it will be possible to calmly discuss how to continue to live.

[Olgovich]

I just want to remind you that the project includes six regions of Ukraine - Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev and Kherson.

The Ukrainian politician notes that Ukraine can lose these areas.

Correctly says, for this is RUSSIA, treacherously transferred by the so-called "Ukraine"

[Nikolai Petrov]

Quote: Not bad

And how could they not turn his head away for such a name?

Anecdote on the topic: In Ukraine, a cuckoo sits on a tree and cries. A sparrow flies up and asks: Why are you crying?
Cuckoo: How not to cry? I don’t know how to “zo-zu”, but they will kill for “ku-ku”.

[rocket757]

Download, guys, download ..... not everything "unnecessary" fell off.

[cniza]

The moment will come when they will jump, and there will be nowhere to land ... Greetings!

[rocket757]

Good morning
We now have early morning, the clock has been adjusted again ...
Well, there, in the country of unafraid .... strange people, everything is still, racing with.
Shaw they itching to do that?

[cniza]

They feel that there will be a denouement soon, so they are trying to be clever ...

[rocket757]

It is difficult to imagine what exactly will happen.
The people then huddled in their huts, which are on the edge and .... waiting.
What are they waiting for, is this a question?

[cniza]

They will not be saved by the policy of khataskraynost ..., but they are waiting for freebies, that someone will come and rake them all the shit, and they will panic again ...

[rocket757]

The same will be pounded, the rest of the mass will be left out, the distribution of "gingerbread".

[cniza]

I doubt that someone is giving them gingerbread, I doubt very much ...

[rocket757]

What are the most obvious options?
Will they be favored or robbed completely?
There is nothing special to guess here.

[cniza]

They will rob and leave it at least, and what will happen then they are not interested ...

[rocket757]

About that and speech.
Simple, real, common truths ... only completely ... strange people may not understand this.

[cniza]

I have already said that they have some kind of anomaly under the ground, that their brains are moving out ...

[rocket757]

So then, fertile lands ...
Why monkeys do not want to climb down from trees ??? They are not badly fed there either!

[Ross xnumx]

I just want to remind you that the project includes six regions of Ukraine - Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev and Kherson.
The Ukrainian politician notes that Ukraine can lose these areas.

As soon as the population of the regions realizes themselves as Russians, the Ukrainian power will end there. The matter is small. It remains to prove that we, the Russians, can unite and revive our country, destroy dependence on the alien to us and superficial from the western closets. People will be drawn to us.

[prior]

Yesterday, while driving by car, I listened to Sofia Rotaru's song "The Edge".
I listened to the text. Hooked. A song about Verkhovyna, a song about hutsuls, a song about love for the native land.
What words!
Questions appeared by themselves:
How could such words be found with the supposedly constant oppression of the Galicians by Muscovites?
How bad was the life of the Ukrainians, who composed and sang such songs about their native land?
What did they lack, that they arranged for themselves what they now have?
What kind of song did they create during their so-called independence?
Do they sing at all now, or are there only phrases about Bandera, horse races and for some reason now hated Muscovites?
Listen to the Ukrainians again this song and answer your own question - why and why, and in the name of what?

[Profiler]

Quote: prior

listened to Sofia Rotaru's song "Edge".
I listened to the text. Hooked. A song about Verkhovyna, a song about hutsuls, a song about love for the native land.
What words!

And how she sang - "I you, he, she - together a friendly country"!

"Komsomolka and just a beauty", a welcome guest at the concerts of the CPSU Congress, a performer treated kindly by the authorities.
And in the end ... Recognized the "occupation of Crimea", actively participated in financing the "ATO" in Donbass.

Songbird

[prior]

I'm not talking about a songstress, we have enough of our own "songbirds", I'm about a song, about people.

[cniza]

six regions of Ukraine - Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev and Kherson.

I suspect that not only them ...

[rocket757]

I suspect that the glory of Nestor Makhno does not give rest to some! They want to start their own Walk.

[cniza]

They have more than a dozen such Makhno there ...

[rocket757]

Well yes. "Support groups" all have ..... no matter what happens.

[cniza]

Let them answer the question whose hryvnia?

[rocket757]

Well, the Byzantine sovereign eagle .... this does not fit into Their current history.

[cniza]

So he brought them potatoes for borscht ...

[rocket757]

They do not favor Peter, never in any way ...

[cniza]

They do not like it, to put it mildly ...

[u-345]

Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Odessa, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev and Kherson are occupied territories.
Let it be remembered

[mark_rod]

Quote: Mar. Tira

Quote: Victor_B

Russia cannot single out such grandmas, because they will immediately turn out to be undemocratic and alien.

Putin tried to do this under Yanukovych. Until now we cannot return. He hoped for the prudence of the mind of the Ukrainian people and flew by. And now all the media in Ukraine gradually began to howl that during European integration, the West needs them as a third-rate people with its natural resources, and that with Russia is better, but give Crimea, Donbass, forgive blood, death, deprivation for the sake of a handful of oligarchs interested in getting rich on this. And off topic, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has released calendars for the new year. You can download the link. Https://xn - 80ahclcogc6ci4h .xn - 90anlfbebar6i.xn - p1ai / multimedia / calendar2021.htm

Just the Commander-in-Chief did not hope for any Ukrainian people! He thought to feed the oligarchs with the authorities, but he didn't care about the people from the high bell tower, as well as the Russian one. It was enough for him to take good care of the Russian people, so that they rolled like cheese in butter, then the Ukrainian people would not strive to the west, but closer to Russia. And when bread and water are on the table of the Russian people, no one will be friends with Russia!

[Normal ok]

Quote: mark_rod

Quote: Mar. Tira

Quote: Victor_B

Russia cannot single out such grandmas, because they will immediately turn out to be undemocratic and alien.

Putin tried to do this under Yanukovych. Until now we cannot return. He hoped for the prudence of the mind of the Ukrainian people and flew by. And now all the media in Ukraine gradually began to howl that during European integration, the West needs them as a third-rate people with its natural resources, and that with Russia is better, but give Crimea, Donbass, forgive blood, death, deprivation for the sake of a handful of oligarchs interested in getting rich on this. And off topic, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has released calendars for the new year. You can download the link. Https://xn - 80ahclcogc6ci4h .xn - 90anlfbebar6i.xn - p1ai / multimedia / calendar2021.htm

Just the Commander-in-Chief did not hope for any Ukrainian people! He thought to feed the oligarchs with the authorities, but he didn't care about the people from the high bell tower, as well as the Russian one. It was enough for him to take good care of the Russian people, so that they rolled like cheese in butter, then the Ukrainian people would not strive to the west, but closer to Russia. And when bread and water are on the table of the Russian people, no one will be friends with Russia!

Holy truth.

[iouris]

"Novorossiya" - is it from Vladivostok to Lisbon or what? Catch up with Portugal, what do you think?

[Kushka]

Quote: Pessimist22

Moskal slanders Muscovites

Since when did the cops become POLITICS?
Moskal, if something is the main Crimean cop.
Loves to talk about Crimean
gang "Shoes". Two words - four swear words!
And in general - a bazaar woman. For VO the most it.

[Normal ok]

And who is Moskal? So, a second-hand politician. Therefore, he makes different "statements" to "emerge"))

[Anachoret]

Moreover, the Novorossiya project has not even started yet.

And the death (or murder) of a high-ranking overgrown scammer in Kharkov could be a very real beginning.