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Ukraine is going to export R-27 aircraft missiles

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On average aviation The R-27 missiles, produced in Ukraine and belonging to the air-to-air class, have found a buyer. This proves the ability of the Ukrainian industry to produce them on their own, without outside help, despite the doubts of competitors.

A representative of the foreign trade company "Progress" tells about this.

Ukraine is going to export aircraft missiles to Indonesia. They are intended for the Armed Forces of this country.

The representative of the exporting company proudly stated that Ukraine independently manufactured all the components of the missile, from the homing system to the solid fuel engine.

The Indonesian military is going to equip Russian-made Su-27 and Su-30 aircraft with this weapon.

It is also noted that the R-27 is not the only weapon Ukrainian production, which interested the armed forces of this Asian country. They also drew attention to the Neptune anti-ship systems and 90K6E radar stations. About this in one of news materials previously reported by "Military Review".

The R-27 air-to-air missile is designed to combat enemy aircraft and cruise missiles. Its range is up to 110 kilometers.
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  1. Pavel57
    Pavel57 27 December 2020 11: 06
    +14
    The R-27 semi-active guidance system is outdated.
    1. Avior
      Avior 27 December 2020 11: 18
      +3
      in Ukraine, they are developing an AGSN for this missile. So far there is only radio correction and a passive seeker, and of the IR seeker
      promise to make AGSN by 2021 ..
      1. figwam
        figwam 27 December 2020 11: 44
        +10
        Quote: Avior
        in Ukraine developing AGSN

        Let them first sell mortars to Indonesia, and then they will decide whether they need missiles or not.
        1. loki565
          loki565 27 December 2020 12: 04
          +5
          How do you like self-exploding shells?)))
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 27 December 2020 12: 47
          +10
          Quote: figvam
          Let them first sell mortars to Indonesia, and then they will decide whether they need missiles or not.

          So what and to whom only the Outskirts did not sell. Only to promise is not to do. And the Outskirts have repeatedly gotten themselves into this puddle. More at once, less at once - they do not care.
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      2. Dread
        Dread 27 December 2020 14: 16
        +2
        Quote: Avior
        While there is only radio correction and passive seeker, well, and IR seeker

        Don't confuse semi-active and passive seeker.
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 28 December 2020 20: 45
          0
          I wonder if such a rocket was suspended on Voloshin's plane and "lost" in flight on the day the Malaysian Boeing was shot down over Donbass? What? Not a bad pre-sale ad!
    2. armannu
      armannu 27 December 2020 11: 19
      -7
      She has several. options.
    3. Egoza
      Egoza 27 December 2020 11: 21
      +2
      Quote: Pavel57
      The R-27 semi-active guidance system is outdated.

      But what an "asset" !!! The rocket can fly "in all directions" regardless of guidance! (sarcasm) (emoticons don't work)
      1. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 27 December 2020 11: 55
        +2
        Quote: Egoza

        But what an "asset" !!! The rocket can fly "in all directions" regardless of guidance! (sarcasm) (emoticons don't work)

        Well, yes, the rocket is bad. But the power plant of frigates from Ukraine was good, since we bought them until Ukraine announced sanctions. And helicopter engines. And much more that you do not know. And to this day we are buying. In Ukraine they can do a lot of things well. The whole question is in power. A normal government will come and start doing it. It is important that this new government is not Russophobic.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 27 December 2020 12: 42
          +6
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          It is important that this new government is not Russophobic.

          They just have another one to come to power
          The Fashington Regional Committee will not give
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 27 December 2020 13: 51
            -1
            Quote: Lipchanin

            They just have another one to come to power
            The Fashington Regional Committee will not give

            In-from, the whole trouble is that you have already agreed with the loss of Ukraine. Raised the handles to the top. And we will constantly play against the "Fashington Regional Committee" as long as you think so. Yes, we lost the first battle for Ukraine, but we did not lose the war for it. And with your moods it cannot be won. Be ashamed.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 27 December 2020 14: 00
              +6
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              In-from, the whole trouble is that you have already agreed with the loss of Ukraine.

              It is a constant of the fact that the suburbs live as fascington tells them.
              There are no words of death
              And we will constantly play against the "Fashington Regional Committee" as long as you think so.

              Well, do you know what I think?
              Yes, we lost the first battle for Ukraine, but we did not lose the war for it.

              And I didn't say anything about losing either
              And with your moods it cannot be won. Be ashamed.

              Well, you all know about me and what I think and what my moods are.
              And I have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of.
              As well as the fact that in fact the outskirts live under external control, which I said in my post.
              Or is it "square"?
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 27 December 2020 14: 22
                -1
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Or is it "square"?

                Do not bother to convince me that I already know. Here we are unanimous. But, I wrote so based on the meaning of your comments. So, do not blame me for the misunderstanding of your words.
                Here you can often read the consent to the surrender of Western Ukraine to the Poles, Hungarians, Martians. But I don't agree. Ukraine should be ours, WHOLE. And nothing else. Yes, the task is not easy, but it can be solved. And the people of Ukraine will help us in this, I believe in it. Which is what I wish for you.
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 27 December 2020 14: 28
                  -2
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Do not bother to convince me that I already know.

                  And there was no such thing in my thoughts
                  But, I wrote so based on the meaning of your comments.

                  Yes, there is no meaning there. Naked constant of facts
                  But I don't agree.

                  Well, say so
              2. cat Rusich
                cat Rusich 27 December 2020 17: 41
                -3
                Poroshenko
                Poroshenko checks whether the shoes are polished or not ... recourse
                battle hopak
                Demonstration of Combat Hopak ... NATO members are watching and ... envy yes
                biden
                Prophecy... D. Biden sat on seat of the president - in 2019 D. Biden was elected President of the United States ... fellow
                case on the shore
                If desired, the same explanation can be found ... smile
            2. Xnumx vis
              Xnumx vis 27 December 2020 21: 04
              0
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Yes, we lost the first battle for Ukraine, but we did not lose the war for it. And with your moods it cannot be won. Be ashamed.

              If we didn’t lose Ukraine as a state friendly to Russia, we wouldn’t build the Crimean bridge, make power plants in Crimea, solve the expensive problem of water supply to Crimea, engage in import substitution of ship propulsion systems, and much more. for these costs you could buy half of Ukraine and its "shitty elite" hi
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 27 December 2020 21: 48
                +2
                Quote: 30 vis
                , then they wouldn't build the Crimean bridge, make power plants in Crimea, solve the expensive problem of water supply to Crimea

                I do not agree with you.
                = Historical information about the Kerch bridge.
                The first attempt to build a bridge dates back to 1903, by order of Emperor Nicholas II, a construction project was developed, and by 1910 all the estimate documentation was prepared, but due to the outbreak of the First World War, it was not possible to start construction. =
                The same goes for water supply and electricity supply. Regardless of the Crimean affiliation, there was a constant lack of water.
                1. Xnumx vis
                  Xnumx vis 27 December 2020 22: 09
                  -1
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  The same goes for water supply and electricity supply. Regardless of the Crimean affiliation, there was a constant lack of water.

                  South Ukrainian nuclear power plant this time. Completely covered the need of the Crimea in electricity. en. North Crimean Canal is two. Rice was grown, animal feed - (corn, sunflower, soybeans), Fruit gardens bloomed all over the Crimea !! So that .. And the way from Moscow to Sevastopol through Kharkov, Zaporozhye is closer and shorter.
                  1. Xnumx vis
                    Xnumx vis 28 December 2020 11: 36
                    0
                    Quote: 30 vis
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    The same goes for water supply and electricity supply. Regardless of the Crimean affiliation, there was a constant lack of water.

                    South Ukrainian nuclear power plant this time. Completely covered the need of the Crimea in electricity. en. North Crimean Canal is two. Rice was grown, animal feed - (corn, sunflower, soybeans), Fruit gardens bloomed all over the Crimea !! So that .. And the way from Moscow to Sevastopol through Kharkov, Zaporozhye is closer and shorter.

                    am I see no reason for cons. All this was created under the Soviet Union, for the USSR! Many claims can be made against the USSR, but even more has been done for proper management. Normal life for the people of the USSR! hi
              2. rjpthju
                rjpthju 28 December 2020 13: 29
                +2
                You don't think that there is no one to fight for. In the late 80s they shouted "Muscovites were eating our bacon", now they are shouting "Muscovites for Gilyak". How much did we feed them ?! Not a horse feed. Take gas prices. I lived under the USSR for 40 years and I know how people lived in Russia and how in Ukraine. And everyone is looking into the forest. And this struggle is at the expense of the Russian people. This is who we must fight for. And the Ukrainians, as well as the Poles (theirs' blishaky friends), are political forgiveness - ducks.
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        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 27 December 2020 12: 50
          +14
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          The whole question is in power. A normal government will come and start doing it. It is important that this new government is not Russophobic.

          Normal power cannot come there a priori. It can only be brought in, and only from the outside and only by force. Mattresses hold Ukraine's Adam's apple too tightly, and any attempt to displace the government will be harshly suppressed for several reasons - there are no leaders capable of organizing the coordination of the process and the resistance of the population, as well as the fact that the half-dead opposition simply has no funds to organize and support mass protests. If the Nazis flood Kiev with blood, then all "progressive" humanity with their courts of the ECHR and The Hague will purposefully not notice this, since it will be presented as a defense of the democratic gains of the Maidan. It is not yet clear whether Russia will agree to a military solution to the issue. If the mattresses decide to shake our peacekeeping contingent in Transnistria by force, then yes, Russia will sway the junta as an alaverda. On the other hand, every year that was wasted in bringing Ukraine into a sane state threatens even greater losses for Russia in the future.
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 27 December 2020 13: 55
            +1
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Normal power cannot come there a priori.

            You wrote everything correctly - "Chief, everything is gone, the plaster is being removed, the client is leaving" Do not rush to bury Ukraine. Our ancestors will not forgive this.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 27 December 2020 14: 37
              +3
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Take your time to bury Ukraine. Our ancestors will not forgive this.

              But where is the hurry? We can only observe, because we are not in a position to influence the process. There have been many examples in history when civilizations, empires, states and peoples that were much stronger than the current 30-year-old Ukraine disappeared.
              The territories do not go anywhere, as well as the people living on them, they will simply be absorbed and developed by more successful neighbors. Ukrainian statehood did not work out.
          2. Maikcg
            Maikcg 27 December 2020 16: 47
            +1
            >> every year lost in bringing Ukraine into a sane state
            Reduces the population that needs to be brought into a sane state in a natural way.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 27 December 2020 16: 55
              0
              Quote: MaikCG
              >>every year lost in bringing Ukraine into a sane state
              Reduces populationwhich needs to be brought into a sane state naturally.
              Which is also true. yes
        3. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 27 December 2020 13: 52
          +2
          The point in my opinion is not that good or bad. And the fact that then the cooperation was preserved with them. Connections, logistics, availability. Who could even imagine that they would start shooting at their heads with grunting joy?
        4. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek 27 December 2020 14: 38
          +4
          We bought them .... as well as gsn to P27. Because no longer where. And in the USSR they produced only there
          1. rjpthju
            rjpthju 28 December 2020 13: 39
            0
            Here I am, too. We built the industry in Ukraine, on our own. We thought this bastard would be forever. And they didn't think so. We hid and prepared.
            1. Zaurbek
              Zaurbek 28 December 2020 14: 42
              0
              Thought or not thought ...... the problem with the SSR 15 pieces created themselves and dissolved themselves. We also supported the Ukrainian industry ourselves. Accordingly, they themselves are to blame.
            2. Vitaliy 1981
              Vitaliy 1981 28 December 2020 16: 19
              0
              You are interesting. Probably the industry in Ukraine you have personally built. And then, okay, with this Ukraine, God forgive me, but what about your "friends" like Georgia, Belarus, the same Armenia, Georgia, the Baltic states (separate conversation), these are all direct enemies, maybe the reason is still in the policy of your state that there are only enemies around you, maybe you should understand yourself first of all, why is it happening as it is?
              1. rjpthju
                rjpthju 28 December 2020 20: 31
                +1
                No, I didn't, I was building the country, the USSR. And that there was no nationalism in Russia is a fact. And he himself is a witness of nationalism in Kazakhstan (late 70s, worked there on an expedition), and in Ukraine (early 80s, was there on a business trip). I'm not talking about the politics of my state, there are now many dark personalities, crooks sitting there. I'm talking about common people. When, at the end of 2013, the maydanutyes ran with posters "Moskalyaku to Gilyaku". It was a shock for me. How to treat the people like that. Before that, there was the end of the 80s, demonstrations for independence with posters "Muscovites were eating our bacon." The people have something to do with it. I know what food supply was in Russia and what in Ukraine. The same famine. That there was no hungry Volga region? I myself am from there and the old people talked about those times. What did the Russians do? Take the sources and see who was in power with us. There are just one or two Russians. The same Balts. The Latvian divisions that were doing in Russia - the revolution, they did not fight, they only suppressed uprisings, brutally suppressed. All the leadership of the Cheka is mainly Latvians, not counting Dzerzhinsky, he is a Pole. And then we became occupiers for Latvians.
        5. orionvitt
          orionvitt 28 December 2020 07: 24
          +1
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          In Ukraine they can do a lot of things well. The whole question is in power. Normal power will come and start doing

          You wanted to say you knew how to do it. Maybe even now they can sometimes, but it's getting worse and worse. Soon they won't be able to do anything at all. As for power, this is half of the problem (the people always deserve the power they have), the main problem of Ukraine, in the very ideology of Ukrainians. Which does not mean to do something at all, only to dream. The blue dream of any Ukrainian Svidomo is a freebie, a kind owner will come and roll off various nishtyaks, just because they are Ukrainians. There was such a thing, Russia gave them everything in due time, they did not appreciate it. So, as long as there is such a thing as "independent Ukraine" and "Ukrainian", everything will be as it is and move for the worse ..
          1. Krasnoyarsk
            Krasnoyarsk 28 December 2020 11: 10
            0
            [quote = orionvitt] Maybe even now they know how in places, [/ quote]
            These are Lice words. Compare with mine - "In Ukraine, they can do a lot of things well." [/ Quote]
            Many things mean not everything. Since not everything means not everywhere, i.e. in places.
            Well?
            [quote = orionvitt] As for power, this is the floor of the problem [/ quote]
            Well, I never agree with you. Power is a problem for the people. The life of the people depends on the power. Therefore, it is not the gender of the problem, but the problem of the highest degree.
            [quote = orionvitt] (people always deserve the power they have) [/ quote]
            Stupidity driven into the heads of the people to remove responsibility from the authorities.
            The people choose (if they choose, moreover, from the candidates whom someone has already chosen for them), a person, but not one or another bill on which it, the people, life depends. And the person you have chosen chooses this or that bill, and nothing will come to him for it. Therefore, nothing depends on the people. In theory, the people have legislative initiative. And practically? That's just it.
            [quote = orionvitt] the main problem of Ukraine, in the very ideology of Ukrainians. [/ quote]
            Quite right. But who is promoting this ideology? - Power! Not the people. Therefore, the main problem of Ukraine is power! It all depends on her.
            [quote = orionvitt] The blue dream of any Svidomo Ukrainian, this is a freebie, [/ quote]
            Have you looked into the soul of every Ukrainian? Or maybe not a dream about a freebie, but just like ours - an adequate salary for your work?
            1. orionvitt
              orionvitt 29 December 2020 07: 47
              0
              I do not agree with any of your statements. The thing is that living in Ukraine, everything is seen clearer and clearer, so to speak on your own skin. When you do not associate yourself with either the "state" of Ukraine, or with the Ukrainian people (not by mentality or by origin, although before we were all Russians), you perfectly realize where the wind is blowing from. As the saying goes, “you don’t need to go to grandma”, everything is in front of our eyes.
              1. Krasnoyarsk
                Krasnoyarsk 29 December 2020 09: 48
                0
                Quote: orionvitt
                I do not agree with any of your statements.

                Actually, since we had disagreements, you had to argue for your disagreement. But for some reason you didn't.
                Do you disagree that we are choosing one of the candidates already chosen by someone?
                Do you disagree with my statement that it is not the people who promote the ideology of Ukrainians?
                Do you disagree with the fact that the authorities bear no responsibility for the results of their rule?
        6. TermNachTer
          TermNachTer 28 December 2020 11: 07
          0
          GTUs for ships were developed in the USSR, it's just that the design bureau and the plant are located in Nikolaev, there is no merit of the Banderast. Banderlyand simply received a piece of the Soviet legacy, and did not develop and make it himself.
    4. loki565
      loki565 27 December 2020 12: 00
      +4
      Alternatively, it can be shot from the ground and is resistant to thermal interference.

      1. Charik
        Charik 27 December 2020 14: 50
        0
        You probably know that 27x two options P and T-from the Radio Command GOS-dipole reflectors shoot off and from the Teplovy-LTZ
    5. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 27 December 2020 12: 15
      0
      Quote: Pavel57
      The R-27 semi-active guidance system is outdated.

      So Ukraine is not offering old Soviet missiles. New optical heads have been developed for the R-27T series missiles, and active radar heads for the R-27T series missiles. GOS developed by "Radionix" (the same office made GOS for anti-ship missiles "Neptune"), general modernization of missiles - "Artem"
    6. lego2
      lego2 27 December 2020 12: 37
      -2
      nothing will go to the Houthis, to the Saudi drones, but I just don't understand that the overcoming of chi zrada
    7. Bad_gr
      Bad_gr 27 December 2020 15: 06
      0
      .... A buyer was found for the medium-sized aircraft R-27 missiles produced in Ukraine and belonging to the air-to-air class. This proves the ability of the Ukrainian industry to produce them independently, without outside help, despite the doubts of competitors ...
      If a buyer is found, this only proves that a buyer has been found. Whether they know how to make these missiles now, in what quality and are they going to supply them to the customer after receiving the prepayment - the question is.
    8. YOUR
      YOUR 28 December 2020 04: 13
      0
      Morally yes, but actually no.
      Lukashenka set up not production but modernization and restoration of these missiles and R-73. Because they have long passed all the storage periods, renew the fuel, carry out the prophylaxis of the rocket itself and for sale in third countries and for themselves a little
      https://www.belta.by/regions/view/v-orshanskom-rajone-pojavjatsja-tseha-po-sborke-broneavtomobilej-i-ptur-376288-2020/
  2. Avrora17
    Avrora17 27 December 2020 11: 14
    0
    I would have thought before buying something in Ukraine .. The flight of these missiles is unpredictable, like the entrenched junta in Kiev. hi Downed civil aircraft on their territory says a lot.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 27 December 2020 11: 42
      -2
      Quote: Avrora17
      Downed civil aircraft on their territory says a lot.

      stop Stop! yes
      If we take into account the Tu-154 of the Siberia company, then the Okrainskoe air defense "got" it actually off the coast of Russia (the place where the liner crashed at the point with coordinates 43 ° 11 ′ N 37 ° 37 ′ E), and " Boeing MN-17, they shot down over our territory.

      What the hell is the Outskirts territory? Sheer far-fetched?
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 27 December 2020 12: 51
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        If we take into account the Tu-154 of the Siberia company, then the Okrainskoe air defense "got" it actually off the coast of Russia (the place where the liner crashed at the point with coordinates 43 ° 11 ′ N 37 ° 37 ′ E)

        I understand correctly that it was necessary to grind Kiev into dust in response?
        Quote: Insurgent
        and the Boeing MN-17, they shot down over our territory.

        But now it was definitely necessary. Bo got skakuas ...
    2. major147
      major147 27 December 2020 11: 49
      +7
      Quote: Avrora17
      I would have thought before buying something in Ukraine

      Confirmation of this ....

      "Back in 2018, the Ukrainian arms factory" Kuznitsa na Rybalskiy ", owned by the well-known Pan Petro, signed a contract with the Turkish company KBAT for the supply of light machine guns. The Turks decided to purchase KUM (KM) machine guns of 7,62 caliber for their army. kulemet ukrainian modernized ", yeah, like that, the word" machine gun ", apparently, is too" Muscovites "gives away, so the Ukrainians decided to come up with their own), which in turn are almost an exact copy of the Soviet PKM. The differences are minimal: to lighten the weight for KUM created new ammunition boxes made of synthetic materials (the PKM, let me remind you, they were made of metal); a new trigger guard was installed; the handle was replaced with a more convenient one. The slightly altered PKM began to be called KUM, and the Ukrainians even managed to snatch it to South Sudan. Turkey, which decided to buy as many as 2800 such handicrafts, everything turned out a little differently.
      Not only that, instead of 2800 units, the Ukrainian military-industrial complex mastered only 1173, but also the quality let down. On tests, it suddenly turned out that many of the machine guns seemed to be defective. The Turkish specialists took a closer look, and it turned out that scratches and other mechanical damage are visible on the trunks of 90% of KUMs. In addition, the parts of the weapon had different colors and shades, which, as it were, hints that they were collected from all the old PKMs that they could reach. As a result, the contract was terminated.
      Now the state corporation Ukrspetsexport has filed a lawsuit against Kuznitsa na Rybalsky, which acted as an intermediary in the conclusion of a contract between Kuznitsa and the Turkish company. "
    3. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 27 December 2020 14: 17
      0
      Quote: Avrora17
      I would have thought before buying something in Ukraine

      Where do you think India and China buy P-27s for their "dryers"? I will reveal a terrible secret - not only in Russia, but also in Ukraine.
      In particular, in 2019, a contract was signed with Ukroboronprom for the supply of several hundred R-27 series missiles to India. Under a previous contract from 2013, the Indian Air Force received 400 missiles (180 R-27ER1, 180 R-27ET1 and 40 training missiles).
  3. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 27 December 2020 11: 16
    +3
    The key word is "got together". Ukraine is always "going" somewhere ...
  4. armannu
    armannu 27 December 2020 11: 17
    -3
    Can they really make rockets?
    I just heard about the scandals about tanks, armored personnel carriers ...
    Something about missiles is also doubtful ...
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 27 December 2020 11: 19
      +1
      Now we are waiting for scandals with missiles.
      1. Avrora17
        Avrora17 27 December 2020 11: 23
        +1
        Quote: Pereira
        Now we are waiting for scandals with missiles.

        Ukraine can sell weapons only to Africa, everyone borrows there))))
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 27 December 2020 11: 38
          +4
          Ukraine, for free to someone? This is a joke?
    2. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 27 December 2020 13: 55
      +2
      Quote: armannu
      Can they really make rockets?

      The R-27 air combat missiles were produced in Kiev at the Artem Production Association (now the Artem State Holding Company). It was the only plant in the USSR that made these missiles. Naturally, they have competencies.
      1. Hexenmeister
        Hexenmeister 27 December 2020 17: 40
        +1
        But it was not this plant that developed them, and the developer had his own pilot production. And if in essence, then the 27T is a very specific rocket in terms of application, and even about the 27P in any variants it was necessary to forget by and large twenty years ago.
        1. Grigory_45
          Grigory_45 27 December 2020 17: 50
          +1
          Quote: Hexenmeister
          But it was not this plant that developed them

          yes lead developer was the Moscow MKB "Vympel". So what? We organized production at Artem, where all the documentation was and is, and trained personnel, and equipment, and test stations, etc. Are you going to start telling me now that they are not able to make rockets on the Soviet reserve? So facts are stubborn things, they talk about what they are doing. And they sell. Ukraine is still associated with the Soviet Union. And they not only do, but also modernize. Well, Ukraine has a good rocket production, since Soviet times, even 30 years of independence could not kill him yet.
          1. Hexenmeister
            Hexenmeister 27 December 2020 17: 55
            0
            You can sell anything you want, only the R-27R was outdated in the early 90s.
            1. Grigory_45
              Grigory_45 27 December 2020 19: 16
              -1
              Quote: Hexenmeister
              only the R-27R was outdated in the early 90s

              missiles of the R-27ER and R-27ET modifications have been in service for a long time. These "outdated" missiles are in service with countries that have Russian (Soviet) technology, incl. Russia itself.

              1. Hexenmeister
                Hexenmeister 27 December 2020 19: 34
                0
                The 27ER and 27ET modifications appeared simultaneously with the 27R and 27T, and as heavier, but having a longer launch range, they were originally intended for use on the SU-27, and there is nothing new in them. And the replacement of the 27 (E) R with the more modern 77, together with the radar, is naturally a necessary condition for any fighter to comply with the modern level.
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 27 December 2020 11: 18
    +5
    This was previously reported in one of the news materials "Voennoye Obozreniye".

    Well, we laughed and what's next?
    1. Avrora17
      Avrora17 27 December 2020 11: 25
      -3
      Quote: rocket757
      This was previously reported in one of the news materials "Voennoye Obozreniye".

      Well, we laughed and what's next?

      Then there is only pity and contempt for the "brothers" who have profited EVERYTHING, what the USSR left them .. Chernozem is only competitive and young girls soldier
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 27 December 2020 11: 56
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      This was previously reported in one of the news materials "Voennoye Obozreniye".

      Well, we laughed and what's next?

      And then a dark forest. As stated in one Soviet film.
      Pryuvet Vitya!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 27 December 2020 14: 25
        -1
        Hi Vyacheslav soldier
        Quote: sabakina
        And then a dark forest.

        Everything is clear to us, but those who seem to be going to buy do not understand that this is not at all the SOVIET weapon that was distinguished by its reliability ???
        Desovetization ... of the brain, this is already a diagnosis! You should stay away from these!
        they would have read OUR classics !!!
        And Balda condemned with reproach:
        "You would not chase, pop, for cheapness."
        A fairy tale about the priest and his worker Balda.
        Alexander Pushkin

        From many troubles, in the future, would be saved!
  6. APASUS
    APASUS 27 December 2020 11: 23
    0
    I would have thought a hundred times on the spot of the Indonesians or transferred the money after delivery and no advances. True, there is no guarantee here either. The country that is at war is an exporter of weapons, there is already a catch.
    1. Petro_tut
      Petro_tut 27 December 2020 11: 39
      -1
      I would think a hundred times on the spot Indonesians or transfer money after delivery and no advances

      So why should they think if they pay with palm oil?
  7. Vita vko
    Vita vko 27 December 2020 11: 24
    +2
    Installing any components on any aircraft without the manufacturer's permission is a violation of the operating conditions. If Rosoboronexport does not remain silent, then the Indonesian military will definitely not want to take responsibility for the safety of operation with the prospect of being left without consumables and repair kits altogether due to violation of the contract with the Russian Federation.
    1. kit88
      kit88 27 December 2020 11: 35
      +7
      Moreover, in Russia, the R-27 ended or what?
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 27 December 2020 11: 59
        +3
        Quote: kit88
        Moreover, in Russia, the R-27 ended or what?

        Apparently, everything is connected with dumping.
      2. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 27 December 2020 12: 23
        +1
        Quote: kit88
        Moreover, in Russia, the R-27 ended or what?

        It's scary to buy in Russia now. Jakarta is afraid of falling under US sanctions, under the Counter America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA). Therefore, he is also looking for an alternative to the Russian Su-35 - he is going to buy French Rafali.
        Well, the Ukrainian URs of the R-27 series are still modernized products, with new GOS and engines.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 December 2020 11: 32
    +2
    I wonder how Ukraine seduced Indonesia, at a price? So what is the discount that Ukrainian missiles are going to be installed on planes purchased from Russia? And in which case the Indonesians will make claims to whom?
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 27 December 2020 12: 03
      +3
      Gena prYuvet! Russian aircraft. Ukrainian missiles. When something does not grow together with something, who is to blame? That's right, Voyaka Wow, Privalov and Co.! wink
  9. Magic archer
    Magic archer 27 December 2020 11: 34
    +2
    In light of all the problems with the export of Ukrainian weapons, Indonesia is taking a wild risk. Ukraine fulfills almost all contracts anyhow. Apparently the only thing they were able to attract attention is the price. But here's the quality ... I won't be surprised that if these missiles fly, then it's extremely bad ...
    1. kit88
      kit88 27 December 2020 11: 57
      +8
      Let them buy, let them ...
      And then, they hung it up, but they do not adjust to the RLPK frequency ... request
      And you can only use them as fence posts. Only a little expensive somehow for the pillars it turns out.
      1. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 27 December 2020 13: 50
        -2
        Quote: kit88
        And then, they hung up, but they do not adjust to the frequency of the RLPK


        in the photo - Iranian "Tomcat" with Russian R-27R. And nothing, the aircraft of American origin is quite friendly with the Russian missile.
        Do you seriously think that there are only qualified designers and engineers in Russia?
  10. Petro_tut
    Petro_tut 27 December 2020 11: 36
    0
    Ukraine is going to export aircraft missiles to Indonesia.

    Well, everyone, will now eat palm oil in the place of lard laughing
  11. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 December 2020 12: 09
    -1
    And if then the clients scream like ISIS, whom Ukrainians got into bullshit MANPADS.
  12. askort154
    askort154 27 December 2020 12: 25
    +2
    Photo of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

    Why did the author attach it to an article about Ukraine?
    Besides, it is ostentatious and funny. The pilot examines the plane, with the helmet's light filter lowered. No.
  13. Bradley
    Bradley 27 December 2020 12: 29
    +3
    We would like to clarify what modification we are talking about. If about the R-27R - this is the bottom, and if about the R-27T, then something else.
    It is logical to assume that they are buying the R-27T, since the R-27R is no longer a cake for 2021. Although ours were also seen with P-27Rs in Syria.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 27 December 2020 13: 50
      +2
      Quote: Bradley
      Although ours were also seen with P-27Rs in Syria.

      Duc, utilization with benefit. yes
    2. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 27 December 2020 13: 56
      0
      Quote: Bradley
      We would like to clarify what modification we are talking about. If about the R-27R - this is the bottom, and if about the R-27T, then something else.
      It is logical to assume that they are buying the R-27T, since the R-27R is no longer a cake.

      for R-27 missiles (both with the letter P and T), new GOS have been developed
    3. Charik
      Charik 27 December 2020 14: 58
      0
      no cake, if it’s true, there was a shooting down by the Houthis -F15go of the Saudis so also with a ground-based homemade PU, R-27, only it is not clear which R or T
  14. bar
    bar 27 December 2020 12: 30
    +1
    Ukraine is going to export aircraft missiles to Indonesia.

    Business has flooded. They have almost flooded this Indonesia with antiarable "neptunes", existing only in the form of exhibition samples. Now this is this. Tailwind to the humpbacked back laughing
  15. Pavel57
    Pavel57 27 December 2020 12: 44
    +4
    Quote: Gregory_45
    Quote: Pavel57
    The R-27 semi-active guidance system is outdated.

    So Ukraine is not offering old Soviet missiles. New optical heads have been developed for the R-27T series missiles, and active radar heads for the R-27T series missiles. GOS developed by "Radionix" (the same office made GOS for anti-ship missiles "Neptune"), general modernization of missiles - "Artem"

    Ukrainian heat heads were the best in the USSR. But the active head without linking with the carrier is problematic.
    1. Thorvlobnor IV
      Thorvlobnor IV 27 December 2020 17: 04
      +2
      Problematic or not, they did it.
  16. Tagan
    Tagan 27 December 2020 13: 26
    0
    Well, as it happened, everyone again lined up for the Ukrainian miracle weapon.
  17. Dimide
    Dimide 27 December 2020 13: 31
    +1
    A couple of days ago the helicopter blades (metal and composite) on the Mi-8 and Mi-24 were tested at Motor Sich. Today, it is reported about the R-27T.
    Something "Ukroboronprom" is not going to die
    1. Sergey Kulikov_3
      Sergey Kulikov_3 27 December 2020 16: 27
      -3
      So today I tested a dish with pepper, my stomach, of course, ached, but after emptying it seemed to feel better, this can be attributed to the topic "dish with pepper" is not going to die?
      1. Dimide
        Dimide 27 December 2020 19: 02
        0
        Humor is not your strong point.
        I watched the video of the tests with Boguslaev's comments
  18. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 27 December 2020 14: 09
    -1
    This was previously reported in one of the news materials "Voennoye Obozreniye".

    Now decide to repeat it.
    For what?
    For whom?
    1. Dimide
      Dimide 27 December 2020 14: 24
      +1
      Hidden advertising "Ukroboronprom" laughing
  19. Al101lexx
    Al101lexx 27 December 2020 14: 31
    0
    All this is doubtful, I think the same "joke" will come out, as with machine guns for the Turks. Indonesian technicians should still carefully check the bailout system.
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  21. garik77
    garik77 27 December 2020 15: 19
    0
    Damn, there are a lot of plans, only the exhaust, as usual, will be close to the donut hole .. laughing
  22. iouris
    iouris 27 December 2020 18: 00
    -1
    ... was going to export SOVIET missiles. Well, a complete break with the Soviet past ... Thirty years have not passed since ...
  23. silverura
    silverura 27 December 2020 22: 11
    0
    The site turns into Ukrainian Review! How long to?
  24. Pavel57
    Pavel57 28 December 2020 00: 20
    -1
    Quote: Gregory_45
    in the photo - Iranian "Tomcat" with Russian R-27R. And nothing, an American plane

    This topic was discussed for a long time. We couldn't understand the fake or not.
  25. Pavel57
    Pavel57 28 December 2020 00: 27
    +1
    Quote: Torvlobnor IV
    Problematic or not, they did it.

    A rocket with an active head must have an inertial control system and a radio correction system for target coordinates. These systems should be linked to the carrier, which is Russian. Russia will not agree to such a linkage. Therefore, Ukraine can sell R-27 R and T, which were worked out during the Soviet era, under drying. But the 27R, once again, is an obsolete rocket. In a duel battle, Amraham loses and the like because of the need to track it before hitting the target. This limits the ability to evade. This is its obsolescence.
  26. Alexey Bobrin
    Alexey Bobrin 30 December 2020 05: 52
    0
    And Ukraine also has a Hammer mortar, which can also be sold