Ukraine is going to export R-27 aircraft missiles

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For medium aviation The R-27 missiles, produced in Ukraine and belonging to the air-to-air class, have found a buyer. This proves the ability of the Ukrainian industry to produce them on their own, without outside help, despite the doubts of competitors.



This is told by a representative of the foreign trade company "Progress".

Ukraine is going to export aircraft missiles to Indonesia. They are intended for the Armed Forces of this country.

The representative of the exporting company proudly stated that Ukraine independently manufactured all the components of the missile, from the homing system to the solid fuel engine.

The Indonesian military is going to equip Russian-made Su-27 and Su-30 aircraft with this weapon.

It is also noted that the R-27 is not the only weapon Ukrainian production, which interested the armed forces of this Asian country. They also drew attention to the Neptune anti-ship systems and 90K6E radar stations. About this in one of news materials previously reported "Military Review".

The R-27 air-to-air missile is designed to combat enemy aircraft and cruise missiles. Its range is up to 110 kilometers.
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  1. +14
    27 December 2020 11: 06
    The semi-active guidance system R-27 is obsolete.
    1. +3
      27 December 2020 11: 18
      in Ukraine, they are developing an AGSN for this missile. So far there is only radio correction and a passive seeker, and of the IR seeker
      promise to make AGSN by 2021 ..
      1. +10
        27 December 2020 11: 44
        Quote: Avior
        AGSN is being developed in Ukraine

        Let them first sell mortars to Indonesia, and then they will decide whether they need missiles or not.
        1. +5
          27 December 2020 12: 04
          And how do you like self-exploding shells?)))
        2. +10
          27 December 2020 12: 47
          Quote: figvam
          Let them first sell mortars to Indonesia, and then they will decide whether they need missiles or not.

          So what and to whom only the Outskirts did not sell. Only to promise is not to do. And the Outskirts have repeatedly gotten themselves into this puddle. More at once, less at once - they do not care.
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      2. +2
        27 December 2020 14: 16
        Quote: Avior
        So far, there is only radio correction and passive seeker, well, and IR GOS

        Do not confuse a semi-active seeker with a passive one.
        1. 0
          28 December 2020 20: 45
          I wonder if such a rocket was suspended on Voloshin's plane and "lost" in flight on the day the Malaysian Boeing was shot down over Donbass? What? Not a bad pre-sale ad!
    2. -7
      27 December 2020 11: 19
      She has several options.
    3. +2
      27 December 2020 11: 21
      Quote: Pavel57
      The semi-active guidance system R-27 is obsolete.

      But what an "asset" !!! The rocket can fly "in all directions" regardless of guidance! (sarcasm) (emoticons don't work)
      1. +2
        27 December 2020 11: 55
        Quote: Egoza

        But what an "asset" !!! The rocket can fly "in all directions" regardless of guidance! (sarcasm) (emoticons don't work)

        Well, yes, the rocket is bad. But the power plants of frigates from Ukraine were good, since we bought them, until Ukraine announced sanctions. And helicopter engines. And a lot of other things that you don't know. We still buy today. In Ukraine, they know how to do a lot of things well. It's all about power. The normal government will come and start doing it. It is important that this new government should not be Russophobic.
        1. +6
          27 December 2020 12: 42
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          It is important that this new government should not be Russophobic.

          They have another to come to power just be able
          The Fashington regional committee will not give
          1. -1
            27 December 2020 13: 51
            Quote: Lipchanin

            They have another to come to power just be able
            The Fashington regional committee will not give

            In-from, the whole trouble is that you have already agreed with the loss of Ukraine. Raised the handles to the top. And we will constantly play against the "Fashington Regional Committee" as long as you think so. Yes, we lost the first battle for Ukraine, but we did not lose the war for it. And with your moods it cannot be won. Be ashamed.
            1. +6
              27 December 2020 14: 00
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              In-from, the whole trouble is that you have already agreed with the loss of Ukraine.

              This is a statement of the fact that the outskirts live as Fashington tells it to.
              There are no words about death
              And we will constantly play against the "Fashington Regional Committee" as long as you think so.

              Well, how do you know what I think?
              Yes, we lost the first battle for Ukraine, but we did not lose the war for it.

              And I didn't say anything about losing either.
              And with your moods, you can’t win it. Be ashamed.

              Well, you all know about me and what I think and what my mood is.
              And I have absolutely nothing to be ashamed of.
              As well as the fact that in fact the outskirts live under external control, which I said in my post.
              Or is she independent?
              1. -1
                27 December 2020 14: 22
                Quote: Lipchanin
                Or is she independent?

                Do not bother to convince me that I already know. Here we are unanimous. But, I wrote so based on the meaning of your comments. So, do not blame me for the misunderstanding of your words.
                Here you can often read the consent to the surrender of Western Ukraine to the Poles, Hungarians, Martians. But I don't agree. Ukraine should be ours, WHOLE. And nothing else. Yes, the task is not easy, but it can be solved. And the people of Ukraine will help us in this, I believe in it. Which is what I wish for you.
                1. -2
                  27 December 2020 14: 28
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  Don't bother trying to convince me of what I already know.

                  And it wasn't in my mind
                  But, I wrote this based on the meaning of your comments.

                  Yes, there is no meaning there. Bare statement of facts
                  And I don't agree.

                  Well you say so
              2. -3
                27 December 2020 17: 41
                Poroshenko
                Poroshenko checks whether shoes are polished or not... recourse
                combat hopak
                Demonstration of Combat Hopak ... NATO members are watching and ... envy Yes
                biden
                Prophecy... D. Biden sat on seat of the president - in 2019, D. Biden was elected president of the us... fellow
                incident on the beach
                If you wish, you can find the same explanation ... smile
            2. 0
              27 December 2020 21: 04
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Yes, we lost the first battle for Ukraine, but we did not lose the war for it. And with your moods it cannot be won. Be ashamed.

              If we didn’t lose Ukraine as a state friendly to Russia, we wouldn’t build the Crimean bridge, make power plants in Crimea, solve the expensive problem of water supply to Crimea, engage in import substitution of ship propulsion systems, and much more. for these costs you could buy half of Ukraine and its "shitty elite" hi
              1. +2
                27 December 2020 21: 48
                Quote: 30 vis
                , then they wouldn't build the Crimean bridge, make power plants in Crimea, solve the expensive problem of water supply to Crimea

                I do not agree with you.
                = Historical information about the Kerch bridge.
                The first attempt to build a bridge dates back to 1903, by order of Emperor Nicholas II, a construction project was developed, and by 1910 all the estimate documentation was prepared, but due to the outbreak of the First World War, it was not possible to start construction. =
                The same goes for water supply and electricity supply. Regardless of the Crimean affiliation, there was a constant lack of water.
                1. -1
                  27 December 2020 22: 09
                  Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                  The same goes for water supply and electricity supply. Regardless of the Crimean affiliation, there was a constant lack of water.

                  South Ukrainian nuclear power plant this time. Completely covered the need of the Crimea in electricity. en. North Crimean Canal is two. Rice was grown, animal feed - (corn, sunflower, soybeans), Fruit gardens bloomed all over the Crimea !! So that .. And the way from Moscow to Sevastopol through Kharkov, Zaporozhye is closer and shorter.
                  1. 0
                    28 December 2020 11: 36
                    Quote: 30 vis
                    Quote: Krasnoyarsk
                    The same goes for water supply and electricity supply. Regardless of the Crimean affiliation, there was a constant lack of water.

                    South Ukrainian nuclear power plant this time. Completely covered the need of the Crimea in electricity. en. North Crimean Canal is two. Rice was grown, animal feed - (corn, sunflower, soybeans), Fruit gardens bloomed all over the Crimea !! So that .. And the way from Moscow to Sevastopol through Kharkov, Zaporozhye is closer and shorter.

                    am I see no reason for cons. All this was created under the Soviet Union, for the USSR! Many claims can be made against the USSR, but even more has been done for proper management. Normal life for the people of the USSR! hi
              2. +2
                28 December 2020 13: 29
                Don't you think that there is no one to fight for. In the late 80s, they shouted "Muscovites ate our fat", now they are shouting "Muscovite to Gilyak." How much did we feed them? Not for horse food. Take, for example, gas prices. I lived under the USSR for 40 years and I know how people lived in Russia and how they lived in Ukraine. And everyone looks into the forest. And this struggle is at the expense of the Russian people. That's who you have to fight for. And the Ukrainians, like the Poles (their closest friends) - forgive me political ducks.
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        2. +14
          27 December 2020 12: 50
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          The whole question is in power. A normal government will come and start doing it. It is important that this new government is not Russophobic.

          Normal power there cannot come a priori. It can only be brought, and only from the outside and only by force. Mattresses hold Ukraine too tightly by the Adam's apple and any attempt to shift the government will be severely suppressed for several reasons - there are no leaders capable of organizing the coordination of the process and the resistance of the population, as well as the fact that the half-dead opposition simply does not have the means to organize and support mass protests. If the Nazis flood Kyiv with blood, then all "progressive" humanity with their courts of the ECHR and the Hague will purposefully not notice this, since it will be presented as a defense of the democratic gains of the Maidan. Whether Russia will go for a forceful solution of the issue is not yet clear. If the mattresses decide to sway our peacekeeping contingent in Transnistria by force, then yes, Russia will sway the junta as an Alaverda. On the other hand, every year lost in bringing Ukraine to a sane state threatens Russia with even greater losses in the future.
          1. +1
            27 December 2020 13: 55
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Normal power there cannot come a priori.

            You wrote everything correctly - "Chief, everything is gone, the plaster is being removed, the client is leaving" Do not rush to bury Ukraine. Our ancestors will not forgive this.
            1. +3
              27 December 2020 14: 37
              Quote: Krasnoyarsk
              Do not rush to bury Ukraine. Our ancestors will not forgive us.

              But where is the hurry? We can only observe, because we are not in a position to influence the process. There have been many examples in history when civilizations, empires, states and peoples that were much stronger than the current 30-year-old Ukraine disappeared.
              The territories do not go anywhere, as well as the people living on them, they will simply be absorbed and developed by more successful neighbors. Ukrainian statehood did not work out.
          2. +1
            27 December 2020 16: 47
            >>every year lost in bringing Ukraine to a sane state
            Reduces the population that needs to be brought into a sane state in a natural way.
            1. 0
              27 December 2020 16: 55
              Quote: MaikCG
              >>every year lost in bringing Ukraine to a sane state
              Reduces the population, which needs to be brought into a sane state naturally.
              Which is also true. Yes
        3. +2
          27 December 2020 13: 52
          The point in my opinion is not that good or bad. And the fact that then the cooperation was preserved with them. Connections, logistics, availability. Who could even imagine that they would start shooting at their heads with grunting joy?
        4. +4
          27 December 2020 14: 38
          We bought them .... as well as gsn to P27. Because no longer where. And in the USSR they produced only there
          1. 0
            28 December 2020 13: 39
            Here I am, too. We built the industry in Ukraine, on our own. We thought this bastard would be forever. And they didn't think so. We hid and prepared.
            1. 0
              28 December 2020 14: 42
              Thought or not thought ...... the problem with the SSR 15 pieces created themselves and dissolved themselves. We also supported the Ukrainian industry ourselves. Accordingly, they themselves are to blame.
            2. 0
              28 December 2020 16: 19
              Interesting you. Probably the industry in Ukraine, you personally built it. And then, okay with this Ukraine, God forgive me, but what about your "friends" like Georgia, Belarus, the same Armenia, Georgia, the Baltic states (separate conversation) that's all right here are enemies, maybe the reason is still in the policy of your state that there are only enemies around you, it may be worthwhile to understand yourself first of all, why is it happening the way it is?
              1. +1
                28 December 2020 20: 31
                No, I did not build, the country, the USSR, built. And that in Russia there was no nationalism is a fact. And he himself was a witness of nationalism in Kazakhstan (the end of the 70s, he worked there on an expedition), and in Ukraine (the beginning of the 80s, he was there on a business trip). I'm not talking about the politics of my state, there are now a lot of dark personalities, rogues are sitting there. I'm talking about the common people. When, at the end of 2013, the Maydanuts ran with posters "Moskalyaku to Gilyak". For me it was a shock. How to treat people like that. Before that, there was the end of the 80s, demonstrations for independence with placards "Muscovites ate our fat." The people have something to do with it. I know what kind of food supply was in Russia and what kind in Ukraine. The same famine. That there was no hungry Volga region? I myself am from there and the old people talked about those times. What did the Russians do? Take the sources and see who was in power with us. Russian one or two and miscalculated. The same Balts. The Latvian divisions that they did in Russia - a revolution, they did not fight, they only suppressed the uprisings, they brutally suppressed them. The entire leadership of the Cheka is mostly Latvians, except for Dzerzhinsky, he is a Pole. And then we became occupiers for the Latvians.
        5. +1
          28 December 2020 07: 24
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          In Ukraine they can do a lot of things well. The whole question is in power. Normal power will come and start doing

          You wanted to say you knew how to do it. Maybe even now in some places they know how, but it's getting worse and worse. Soon they won't be able to do anything. As for power, this is the floor of the problem (the people always deserve the power they have), the main problem of Ukraine, in the very ideology of Ukrainianism. Which does not involve doing anything at all, only dreaming. The blue dream of any Svidomo Ukrainian is a freebie, a good owner will come and roll off various nishtyaks, just because they are Ukrainians. There was such a thing, Russia gave them everything at one time, they did not appreciate it. So, as long as there is such a thing as "independent Ukraine" and "Ukrainianism", everything will be as it is and move for the worse ..
          1. 0
            28 December 2020 11: 10
            [quote = orionvitt] Maybe they still know how in places, [/ quote]
            These are Lice words. Compare with mine - "In Ukraine, they can do a lot of things well." [/ Quote]
            Many things mean not everything. Since not everything means not everywhere, i.e. in places.
            Well?
            [quote = orionvitt] As for power, this is half the problem [/ quote]
            Well, I never agree with you. Power is a problem for the people. The life of the people depends on the power. Therefore, it is not the gender of the problem, but the problem of the highest degree.
            [quote = orionvitt] (people always deserve the power they have) [/ quote]
            Stupidity driven into the heads of the people to remove responsibility from the authorities.
            The people choose (if they choose, moreover, from the candidates whom someone has already chosen for them), a person, but not this or that bill on which his, the people, life depends. And the person chosen by you chooses this or that bill, and nothing will happen to him for it. Therefore, nothing depends on the people. Theoretically, the people have the legislative initiative. And practically? That's it.
            [quote = orionvitt] the main problem of Ukraine, in the very ideology of Ukrainians. [/ quote]
            Quite right. But who is promoting this ideology? - Power! Not the people. Therefore, the main problem of Ukraine is power! It all depends on her.
            [quote = orionvitt] The blue dream of any Svidomo Ukrainian, this is a freebie, [/ quote]
            Have you looked into the soul of every Ukrainian? Or maybe not a dream about a freebie, but just like ours - an adequate salary for your work?
            1. 0
              29 December 2020 07: 47
              I do not agree with any of your statements. The thing is that living in Ukraine, everything is seen more clearly and clearly, so to speak, in one's own skin. When you do not associate yourself with either the "state" of Ukraine, or with the Ukrainian people (not by mentality or by origin, although before we were all Russians), you are well aware of where the wind blows. As they say, "you don't even need to go to your grandmother", everything is in front of your eyes.
              1. 0
                29 December 2020 09: 48
                Quote: orionvitt
                I do not agree with any of your statements.

                Actually, since we had disagreements, you had to argue for your disagreement. But for some reason you didn't.
                Do you disagree that we are choosing one of the candidates already chosen by someone?
                Do you disagree with my statement that it is not the people who promote the ideology of Ukrainians?
                Do you disagree with the fact that the authorities bear no responsibility for the results of their rule?
        6. 0
          28 December 2020 11: 07
          GTUs for ships were developed in the USSR, it's just that the design bureau and the plant are located in Nikolaev, there is no merit of the Banderast. Banderlyand simply received a piece of the Soviet legacy, and did not develop and make it himself.
    4. +4
      27 December 2020 12: 00
      Alternatively, it can be shot from the ground and is resistant to thermal interference.

      1. 0
        27 December 2020 14: 50
        You probably know that 27x two options P and T-from the Radio Command GOS-dipole reflectors shoot off and from the Teplovy-LTZ
    5. 0
      27 December 2020 12: 15
      Quote: Pavel57
      The semi-active guidance system R-27 is obsolete.

      So Ukraine is not offering old Soviet missiles. New optical heads have been developed for the R-27T series missiles, and active radar heads for the R-27T series missiles. GOS developed by "Radionix" (the same office made GOS for anti-ship missiles "Neptune"), general modernization of missiles - "Artem"
    6. -2
      27 December 2020 12: 37
      nothing will go to the Houthis, to the Saudi drones, but I just don't understand that the overcoming of chi zrada
    7. 0
      27 December 2020 15: 06
      .... A buyer was found for the medium-sized aircraft R-27 missiles produced in Ukraine and belonging to the air-to-air class. This proves the ability of the Ukrainian industry to produce them independently, without outside help, despite the doubts of competitors ...
      If a buyer is found, this only proves that a buyer has been found. Whether they know how to make these missiles now, in what quality and are they going to supply them to the customer after receiving the prepayment - the question is.
    8. 0
      28 December 2020 04: 13
      Morally yes, but actually no.
      Lukashenka set up not production but modernization and restoration of these missiles and R-73. Because they have long passed all the storage periods, renew the fuel, carry out the prophylaxis of the rocket itself and for sale in third countries and for themselves a little
      https://www.belta.by/regions/view/v-orshanskom-rajone-pojavjatsja-tseha-po-sborke-broneavtomobilej-i-ptur-376288-2020/
  2. 0
    27 December 2020 11: 14
    I would have thought before buying something in Ukraine .. The flight of these missiles is unpredictable, like the entrenched junta in Kiev. hi Downed civilian aircraft on their territory says a lot
    1. -2
      27 December 2020 11: 42
      Quote: Avrora17
      Downed civilian aircraft on their territory says a lot

      stop Stop! Yes
      If we take into account the Tu-154 of the Siberia company, then the Okrainskoe air defense "got" it actually off the coast of Russia (the place where the liner crashed at the point with coordinates 43 ° 11 ′ N 37 ° 37 ′ E), and " Boeing MN-17, they shot down over our territory.

      What the hell is Outskirts territory? Purely far-fetched?
      1. 0
        27 December 2020 12: 51
        Quote: Insurgent
        If we take into account the Tu-154 of the Siberia company, then the Okrainskoe air defense "got" it actually off the coast of Russia (the place where the liner crashed at the point with coordinates 43 ° 11 ′ N 37 ° 37 ′ E)

        I understand correctly that it was necessary to grind Kiev into dust in response?
        Quote: Insurgent
        and Boeing MH-17, they shot down over our territory.

        And now it was exactly what was needed. Bo got skakuasy ....
    2. +7
      27 December 2020 11: 49
      Quote: Avrora17
      I would think before buying something in Ukraine

      So confirmation....

      "Back in 2018, the Ukrainian arms factory "Forge on Rybalsky", owned by the well-known Pan Petro, signed a contract with the Turkish company KBAT for the supply of light machine guns. The Turks decided to purchase KUM (KM) machine guns of 7,62 caliber for their army (" ukrainian modernized machine gun", yeah, like that, the word "machine gun", apparently, gives away too much "moskals", so the Ukrainians decided to come up with their own), which in turn are almost an exact copy of the Soviet PKM. The differences are minimal: to lighten the weight for KUM created new cartridge boxes made of synthetic materials (I remind you that PKM had metal ones); a new trigger guard was installed; the handle was replaced with a more comfortable one. Perhaps the only significant innovation was the addition of a Weaver aiming bar to the machine gun. One way or another, from now on, the old slightly altered PKM became known as KUM, and the Ukrainians even managed to sell it to South Sudan.With Turkey, which decided to buy as many as 2800 of these handicrafts, everything turned out a little differently.
      Not only did the Ukrainian military-industrial complex mastered only 2800 instead of 1173 pieces, but also the quality failed. During the tests, it suddenly turned out that many of the machine guns seemed to be defective. Turkish experts took a closer look, and it turned out that 90% of the KUMs had scratches and other mechanical damage on the barrels. In addition, the parts of the weapons had different colors and shades, which, as it were, hints that they were collected from all the old PKMs that they could reach. As a result, the contract was terminated.
      Now the state corporation Ukrspetsexport has filed a lawsuit against Kuznitsa na Rybalsky, which acted as an intermediary in the conclusion of a contract between Kuznitsa and the Turkish company. "
    3. 0
      27 December 2020 14: 17
      Quote: Avrora17
      I would think before buying something in Ukraine

      Where do you think India and China buy P-27s for their "dryers"? I will reveal a terrible secret - not only in Russia, but also in Ukraine.
      In particular, in 2019, a contract was signed with Ukroboronprom for the supply of several hundred R-27 series missiles to India. Under a previous contract from 2013, the Indian Air Force received 400 missiles (180 R-27ER1, 180 R-27ET1 and 40 training missiles).
  3. +3
    27 December 2020 11: 16
    The key word is "gathered". Ukraine is always "going" somewhere ...
  4. -3
    27 December 2020 11: 17
    Can they really make rockets?
    I just heard about scandals over tanks, armored personnel carriers ...
    Something about missiles is doubtful ...
    1. +1
      27 December 2020 11: 19
      Now we are waiting for scandals with missiles.
      1. +1
        27 December 2020 11: 23
        Quote: Pereira
        Now we are waiting for scandals with missiles.

        Ukraine can sell weapons. Only to Africa, everything is borrowed there))))
        1. +4
          27 December 2020 11: 38
          Ukraine, someone for nothing? It's a joke?
    2. +2
      27 December 2020 13: 55
      Quote: armannu
      Can they really make rockets?

      The R-27 air combat missiles were produced in Kiev at the Artem Production Association (now the Artem State Holding Company). It was the only plant in the USSR that made these missiles. Naturally, they have competencies.
      1. +1
        27 December 2020 17: 40
        But it was not this plant that developed them, and the developer had his own pilot production. And if in essence, then the 27T is a very specific rocket in terms of application, and even about the 27P in any variants it was necessary to forget by and large twenty years ago.
        1. +1
          27 December 2020 17: 50
          Quote: Hexenmeister
          But this factory did not develop them

          yes lead developer was the Moscow MKB "Vympel". So what? They organized production at Artem, where all the documentation was and is, and trained personnel, and equipment, and test stations, etc. Will you start telling me now that they are not able to make rockets on the Soviet backlog? So facts are stubborn things, they say what they do. And they sell. Ukraine is still associated with the Soviet Union. And not only do, but also modernize. Well, Ukraine has a good missile production, since Soviet times, even 30 years of independence could not kill him yet.
          1. 0
            27 December 2020 17: 55
            You can sell anything you want, only the R-27R was outdated in the early 90s.
            1. -1
              27 December 2020 19: 16
              Quote: Hexenmeister
              only the R-27R was outdated back in the early 90s

              missiles of the R-27ER and R-27ET modifications have been in service for a long time. These "outdated" missiles are in service with countries that have Russian (Soviet) technology, incl. Russia itself.

              1. 0
                27 December 2020 19: 34
                The 27ER and 27ET modifications appeared simultaneously with the 27R and 27T, and as heavier ones, but with a longer launch range, were originally intended for use on the SU-27, and there is nothing new in them. And the replacement of 27 (E) R with more modern 77, along with the radar, of course, is a necessary condition for any fighter to meet the modern level.
  5. +5
    27 December 2020 11: 18
    This was previously reported in one of the news materials "Voennoye Obozreniye".

    Well, we neighing and what's next?
    1. -3
      27 December 2020 11: 25
      Quote: rocket757
      This was previously reported in one of the news materials "Voennoye Obozreniye".

      Well, we neighing and what's next?

      Then there is only pity and contempt for the "brothers" who have profited EVERYTHING, what the USSR left them .. Chernozem is only competitive and young girls soldier
    2. +3
      27 December 2020 11: 56
      Quote: rocket757
      This was previously reported in one of the news materials "Voennoye Obozreniye".

      Well, we neighing and what's next?

      And then the dark forest. As stated in one Soviet film.
      Pryuvet Vitya!
      1. -1
        27 December 2020 14: 25
        Hi Vyacheslav soldier
        Quote: sabakina
        And then the dark forest.

        Everything is clear to us, but those who seem to be going to buy do not understand that this is not at all the SOVIET weapon that was distinguished by its reliability ???
        Desovetization ... of the brain, this is already a diagnosis! You should stay away from these!
        they would revere OUR classics !!!
        And Balda condemned with reproach:
        "You would not chase, pop, for cheapness."
        The tale of the priest and his worker Balda.
        Alexander Pushkin

        From many troubles, in the future, would be saved!
  6. 0
    27 December 2020 11: 23
    I would have thought a hundred times on the spot of the Indonesians or transferred the money after delivery and no advances. True, there is no guarantee here either. The country that is at war is an exporter of weapons, there is already a catch.
    1. -1
      27 December 2020 11: 39
      I would have thought a hundred times in the place of the Indonesians or transferred the money after delivery and no advances

      So why should they think if they pay with palm oil?
  7. +2
    27 December 2020 11: 24
    Installing any components on any aircraft without the permission of the manufacturer is a violation of the operating conditions. If Rosoboronexport does not remain silent, then the Indonesian military will definitely not want to take responsibility for the safety of operation with the prospect of being completely left without consumables and repair kits due to a violation of the contract with the Russian Federation.
    1. +7
      27 December 2020 11: 35
      Moreover, in Russia, R-27s have ended or what?
      1. +3
        27 December 2020 11: 59
        Quote: kit88
        Moreover, in Russia, R-27s have ended or what?

        Apparently, everything is connected with dumping.
      2. +1
        27 December 2020 12: 23
        Quote: kit88
        Moreover, in Russia, R-27s have ended or what?

        It's scary to buy in Russia now. Jakarta is afraid of falling under US sanctions, under the Counter America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA). Therefore, he is also looking for an alternative to the Russian Su-35 - he is going to buy French Rafali.
        Well, the Ukrainian URs of the R-27 series are still modernized products, with new GOS and engines.
  8. +2
    27 December 2020 11: 32
    I wonder how Ukraine seduced Indonesia, at a price? So what is the discount that Ukrainian missiles are going to be installed on planes purchased from Russia? And in which case the Indonesians will make claims to whom?
    1. +3
      27 December 2020 12: 03
      Gena prYuvet! Russian aircraft. Ukrainian missiles. When something does not grow together with something, who is to blame? That's right, Voyaka Wow, Privalov and Co.! wink
  9. +2
    27 December 2020 11: 34
    In light of all the problems with the export of Ukrainian weapons, Indonesia is taking a wild risk. Ukraine fulfills almost all contracts anyhow. Apparently the only thing they were able to attract attention is the price. But here's the quality ... I won't be surprised that if these missiles fly, then it's extremely bad ...
    1. +8
      27 December 2020 11: 57
      Let them buy, let...
      And then, they hung up, but they do not adjust to the frequency of the RLPK ... request
      And you can only use them as fence posts. Only a little expensive somehow for the pillars it turns out.
      1. -2
        27 December 2020 13: 50
        Quote: kit88
        And then, they hung up, but they do not adjust to the frequency of the RLPK


        in the photo - Iranian "Tomcat" with Russian R-27R. And nothing, the aircraft of American origin is quite friendly with the Russian missile.
        Do you seriously think that there are only qualified designers and engineers in Russia?
  10. 0
    27 December 2020 11: 36
    Ukraine is going to export aircraft missiles to Indonesia.

    Well, everyone will now eat palm oil instead of fat laughing
  11. -1
    27 December 2020 12: 09
    And if then the clients scream like ISIS, whom Ukrainians got into bullshit MANPADS.
  12. +2
    27 December 2020 12: 25
    Photo of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

    Why did the author attach it to an article about Ukraine?
    Besides, it is ostentatious and funny. The pilot examines the plane, with the helmet's light filter lowered. No.
  13. +3
    27 December 2020 12: 29
    We would like to clarify what modification we are talking about. If about the R-27R - this is the bottom, and if about the R-27T, then something else.
    It is logical to assume that they are buying the R-27T, since the R-27R is no longer a cake for 2021. Although ours were also seen with P-27Rs in Syria.
    1. +2
      27 December 2020 13: 50
      Quote: Bradley
      Although ours were also seen with the R-27R in Syria.

      So, good use. Yes
    2. 0
      27 December 2020 13: 56
      Quote: Bradley
      We would like to clarify what modification we are talking about. If about the R-27R - this is the bottom, and if about the R-27T, then something else.
      It is logical to assume that they are buying the R-27T, since the R-27R is no longer a cake

      for R-27 missiles (both with the letter P and T), new GOS have been developed
    3. 0
      27 December 2020 14: 58
      no cake, if it’s true, there was a shooting down by the Houthis -F15go of the Saudis so also with a ground-based homemade PU, R-27, only it is not clear which R or T
  14. bar
    +1
    27 December 2020 12: 30
    Ukraine is going to export aircraft missiles to Indonesia.

    Business has flooded. They have almost flooded this Indonesia with antiarable "neptunes", existing only in the form of exhibition samples. Now this is this. Tailwind to the humpbacked back laughing
  15. +4
    27 December 2020 12: 44
    Quote: Gregory_45
    Quote: Pavel57
    The semi-active guidance system R-27 is obsolete.

    So Ukraine is not offering old Soviet missiles. New optical heads have been developed for the R-27T series missiles, and active radar heads for the R-27T series missiles. GOS developed by "Radionix" (the same office made GOS for anti-ship missiles "Neptune"), general modernization of missiles - "Artem"

    Ukrainian heat heads were the best in the USSR. But the active head without linking with the carrier is problematic.
    1. +2
      27 December 2020 17: 04
      Problematic or not, they did it.
  16. 0
    27 December 2020 13: 26
    Well, as usual, everyone lined up again for the Ukrainian miracle weapon.
  17. +1
    27 December 2020 13: 31
    A couple of days ago the helicopter blades (metal and composite) on the Mi-8 and Mi-24 were tested at Motor Sich. Today, it is reported about the R-27T.
    Something "Ukroboronprom" is not going to die
    1. -3
      27 December 2020 16: 27
      So today I tested a dish with pepper, my stomach, of course, ached, but after emptying it seemed to feel better, this can be attributed to the topic "dish with pepper" is not going to die?
      1. 0
        27 December 2020 19: 02
        Humor is not your forte.
        I watched the test video with Boguslaev's comments
  18. -1
    27 December 2020 14: 09
    This was previously reported in one of the news materials "Voennoye Obozreniye".

    Now decide to do it again.
    For what?
    For whom?
    1. +1
      27 December 2020 14: 24
      Hidden advertising "Ukroboronprom" laughing
  19. 0
    27 December 2020 14: 31
    All this is doubtful, I think the same "joke" will come out, as with machine guns for the Turks. Indonesian technicians should still carefully check the bailout system.
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  21. 0
    27 December 2020 15: 19
    Damn, there are a lot of plans, only the exhaust, as usual, will be close to the donut hole .. laughing
  22. -1
    27 December 2020 18: 00
    ... was going to export SOVIET missiles. Well, a complete break with the Soviet past ... Thirty years have not passed since ...
  23. 0
    27 December 2020 22: 11
    The site is turning into Ukrainian Review! How can?
  24. -1
    28 December 2020 00: 20
    Quote: Gregory_45
    in the photo - Iranian "Tomcat" with Russian R-27R. And nothing, an American plane

    This topic was discussed for a long time. We couldn't understand the fake or not.
  25. +1
    28 December 2020 00: 27
    Quote: Torvlobnor IV
    Problematic or not, they did it.

    A missile with an active head must have an inertial control system and a radio correction system for target coordinates. These systems must be linked to the carrier, which is Russian. Russia will not give consent to such linkage. Therefore, Ukraine can sell R-27 R and T under Sushki, which were worked out during the Soviet era. But 27R, once again, the rocket is obsolete. In a duel battle, Amraam and the like lose because of the need to track the target before hitting it. This limits the possibility of evasive maneuver. This is her obsolescence.
  26. 0
    30 December 2020 05: 52
    And Ukraine also has a Hammer mortar, which can also be sold