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Ukraine will supply Indonesia with the anti-ship complex "Neptune"

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Ukraine will supply Indonesia with the anti-ship complex "Neptune"

Ukraine will supply Indonesia with the Neptune anti-ship complex; the corresponding memorandum has already been signed. This is reported by Defense Express with reference to the Ukrainian special exporter of the State Enterprise SZTF Progress.


According to the published information, Ukraine and Indonesia signed a memorandum on the conclusion of a contract for the supply of a complex of anti-ship cruise missiles RK-360MTS "Neptune". If the contract is signed, Indonesia may become the first foreign buyer of the Ukrainian anti-ship complex.

The fact of signing the memorandum was received in Ukraine with great enthusiasm. The same Defense Express published an article with the headline: "A line of foreign armies is already lining up behind Neptune: Indonesia will be the first importer of ZhK-360MTS."

As reported, the signing of the memorandum was preceded by lengthy negotiations, during which Ukrainian specialists managed to convince the Indonesians of the "advantages of a number of Ukrainian weapons." According to a representative of the Progress company, in addition to Neptune, the Indonesians were interested in Ukrainian radars and aviation rockets.

The Indonesian military has positively assessed the radar 90K6E from the NPK Iskra. This mobile 3D all-round transistor radar is designed to detect targets flying at low, medium and high altitudes. Also, the military was interested in R-27 aircraft missiles

- said the company, adding that Ukraine supplied five R-2010 missiles to Indonesia between 2018 and 27.

For our part, we note that the anti-ship complex RK-360MTS "Neptune" was adopted by the Armed Forces of Ukraine at the end of this summer, but has not yet gone into mass production. As recently announced in the Luch design bureau, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine does not allocate funds for the production of the complex, although it was previously reported that for 2021 the funds for the purchase will be allocated after the redistribution.

The Ukrainian "Neptune" is a subsonic anti-ship cruise missile with a declared range of 300 km. Designed to destroy ships with a displacement of up to 5 thousand tons, as well as coastal targets.
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  1. Vasiliev S.
    Vasiliev S. 25 December 2020 16: 08
    +1
    This mobile 3D all-round radar with a transistor transmitter
    That is, AFAR is not there?
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 25 December 2020 16: 34
      +4
      Ukraine will supply Indonesia with the Neptune anti-ship complex; the corresponding memorandum has already been signed.

      It seems that Ukraine has decided to recoup Fate for the Budapest memorandum and therefore signs all sorts of memorandums for An aircraft, for the construction of Turkish corvettes (at the virtually liquidated Nikolaev shipyard), now also a memorandum for the nonexistent anti-ship missiles Neptune, in order to then cynically throw everyone in a row how they were thrown. Show me at least one of their memorandums that would grow from a non-binding intention to a real contract.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 25 December 2020 17: 32
        +1
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        Show me at least one of their memorandums that would grow from a non-binding intention to a real contract.

        yes To promise does not mean to marry lol
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 25 December 2020 17: 48
          0
          and the other side wants to get married?
          or for seed9 price reduction) of real missile suppliers tosses such memoranda with the outskirts?
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 25 December 2020 17: 56
            -5
            Quote: antivirus
            and the other side wants to get married?

            Dreaming
            real missile suppliers tosses such memorandums with the outskirts?

            In reality, one of the sides will fly like a building material over one of the European capitals.
            the company said, adding that Ukraine delivered five R-2010 missiles to Indonesia between 2018 and 27.

            Delivery rates speak for themselves
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 25 December 2020 19: 44
              +2
              Ukrainians do not have time to add palm oil.
              Indonesia is another buyer. bully
              1. XXXIII
                XXXIII 25 December 2020 20: 01
                0
                Quote: Alex777
                Ukrainians do not have time to add palm oil.
                Indonesia is another buyer. bully

                Already, apparently, they have devoured everything, since the last "Neptune" is being sold.))
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 25 December 2020 22: 12
        +3
        One thing is not clear to me, why the Indonesians need this circus? They already bought an armored personnel carrier in Banderland)))
        1. halpat
          halpat 26 December 2020 00: 27
          +3
          Quote: TermNachTER
          One thing is not clear to me, why the Indonesians need this circus? They already bought an armored personnel carrier in Banderland)))

          want to become the largest anti-ship power in the world :)
          found a worthy and reliable supplier ...
          in general, "go to success" in full swing.
          laughing
        2. Lionnvrsk
          Lionnvrsk 26 December 2020 10: 05
          +2
          Quote: TermNachTER
          One thing is not clear to me, why the Indonesians need this circus? They already bought an armored personnel carrier in Banderland)))

          Maybe masochists? Iraq has already tried to buy 400 BTR-4s, Thailand has already bought tanks, machine guns to Turkey again ... repeat
    2. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 25 December 2020 17: 10
      +4
      Quote: VasilievS
      This mobile 3D all-round radar with a transistor transmitter
      That is, AFAR is not there?

      Radar 90K6E - export version of the radar 80K6M

      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 25 December 2020 22: 14
        +3
        The picture is certainly beautiful, but - I am tormented by vague doubts)))) radar station on MAZ chassis. Banderlyand quarreled with Belarus, KrAZ is going through bankruptcy proceedings. What chassis will it be mounted on?
        1. Grigory_45
          Grigory_45 25 December 2020 22: 33
          0
          Quote: TermNachTER
          What chassis will it be mounted on?

          I believe that at MAZs, this is the most probable. Although, in principle, the chassis can be any, if Indonesia wants to buy radars, the batch will be extremely small, for piece goods both MAN and Mercedes you can buy. The chassis, as a rule, is discussed with the customer (for example, in the United Arab Emirates, the Pantsir air defense missile systems went to the MAN chassis, to the domestic aircraft they go to KamAZ)
          In addition, the radar can go on a semi-trailer
          1. alexniko77
            alexniko77 26 December 2020 08: 46
            -1
            They, the carapace and NEptun, have a difference in weight and whether mans and other chassis have a Ukhlop handicraft is a big question.
            1. Grigory_45
              Grigory_45 26 December 2020 09: 47
              -1
              Quote: alexniko77
              They, the carapace and NEptun, have a difference in weight and whether mans and other chassis have a Ukhlop handicraft is a big question.

              MAN has a line of truck chassis no worse than MAZ. With a lifting capacity of 30-40 tons and more
              1. TermNachTer
                TermNachTer 26 December 2020 12: 31
                0
                Not all trucks are suitable for the army, there are nuances))))
              2. alexniko77
                alexniko77 29 December 2020 08: 26
                0
                why don't they collect their Neptune on the Boshev chassis for the Armed Forces? after all, they had to put in the troops on Maz's wheels and were already rubbing their flippers with happiness, but there was a failure with the daddy and he threw them off the chassis, and then nothing ...
          2. TermNachTer
            TermNachTer 26 December 2020 12: 30
            -1
            And the problem of maintenance and repair, 3-4 MANs or Mercedes, for the whole army?
            1. Grigory_45
              Grigory_45 26 December 2020 13: 35
              +1
              Quote: TermNachTER
              And the problem of maintenance and repair, 3-4 MANs or Mercedes, for the whole army?

              that is why the chassis is discussed with the customer.
              And why are you so worried about them? These are the problems of the contractor and the customer. Let at least put on a horse-drawn carriage.
        2. CastroRuiz
          CastroRuiz 26 December 2020 17: 05
          0
          Naverniaka na shasi Tatra poka budut dengi na ikh zakupku v Chekhii.
    3. Holgerton
      Holgerton 25 December 2020 17: 12
      +1
      It is highly doubtful. Only Russia has the only semi-serial samples of ground-based radars with AFAR in the CIS, and it is too expensive at the moment to transfer all RTVs to them, since the technology is expensive.
      They also have a maximum of laboratory samples of AFAR modules, which, if only for some tests, can be used.
      Most likely there is something like a digital (P) PAR, which is worse on the one hand, on the other hand, the price is more mundane, the price / efficiency ratio is higher.
      If my memory serves me, then some not the most advanced towed radars with AFAR from Northrop Grumman, Raytheon or Leonardo 3-4 years ago cost $ 20-30 million for the radar alone, not taking into account the command post and integration.
      1. Avior
        Avior 26 December 2020 02: 47
        +3
        At Iskra in Zaporozhye there are already quite serial AFARs in different versions.
        3D-RADAR 80K6T (aka 79K6 "Pelikan")
        AFAR
        The head feature of the 80K6T is a digital phased active lattice. ...

        https://ukroboronprom.com.ua/uk/produktsiya-ta-poslugy/3d-radar-80k6t.html
        https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/79К6_«Пелікан»
        Externally, the 90K6E radar, which is sold to Indonesia, looks exactly the same as the 80K6T.
        Most likely, this is also AFAR. A blooper about a "transistor transmitter" wanders from some kind of advertising brochure
        1. Holgerton
          Holgerton 27 December 2020 20: 04
          0
          As far as I remember CAR, this is not AFAR, although it has a similar principle of constructing the canvas. The digital antenna array uses digital signal processing to form the scanning beam, while in the AFAR, each APM has its own phase shifter.
          But in principle, a fairly good technology, if I remember correctly, then with a slightly lower noise immunity and sensitivity, the cost of a CAR is lower than that of an AFAR.
          But it says "digital phased active array", so I'm not sure in my words, maybe there really is an AFAR.
    4. Maz
      Maz 25 December 2020 21: 34
      +4
      [Center]
      Nothing to add, can only be read twice
    5. Pashhenko Nikolay
      Pashhenko Nikolay 25 December 2020 22: 10
      +1
      But transistors instead of lamps. And that's not a small success.
  2. Evil Booth
    Evil Booth 25 December 2020 16: 09
    -6
    I feel they will be rusty and without filling in the TPK ... but I could be wrong, maybe they won't be delivered at all like tanks to Thailand recourse
  3. Cananecat
    Cananecat 25 December 2020 16: 10
    0
    A joint promise was signed by one party to deliver and the other to pay ...)))
    1. nnm
      nnm 25 December 2020 16: 19
      -2
      A promise to promise someday they get a contract. May be.
    2. Svetlana
      Svetlana 25 December 2020 16: 36
      +4
      No. Signed Memorandum about the conclusion of the contract... It's just an intention, a desire, if you like, to conclude a contract. A desire confirmed on paper and it in itself is not a contract.
      Here is just the case when the title does not correspond to the content at all. But these are the authors today who call themselves journalists.
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 25 December 2020 17: 00
        +1
        Thank you, but everyone understood everything perfectly. )
        In any case, the desire to buy and the desire to sell will remain on paper. Unless, of course, someone suddenly decides to sponsor the Luch KB for a "small" share of the profit. And as I can see, the local Alegarchs are not very eager to invest in the local defense industry.
    3. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 25 December 2020 17: 38
      -4
      interesting .. will they also pay with oil?
  4. rocket757
    rocket757 25 December 2020 16: 11
    -2
    Ukraine will supply ...... the corresponding memorandum has already been signed

    That's it, you don't need to read anything else.
    And let the skakuas jump .... their fate is like that.
  5. Eldorado
    Eldorado 25 December 2020 16: 11
    +3
    Shock, as many as FIVE missiles from 2010 to 2018. (!) put! Half a piece a year? lol
  6. Eldorado
    Eldorado 25 December 2020 16: 14
    -3
    Delirium from the media Ukroreykh. Indonesia has Harpoons, powerful missiles that have been tested in combat. Why do they need some "Neptune", which even about ten did not?
    1. Tochilka
      Tochilka 25 December 2020 20: 16
      0
      They were doing the shooting. Testing. So at least a dozen missiles could be built. Right?
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 25 December 2020 20: 25
      +1
      Movable coastal complex. They want to buy such. Not the fact that they will buy Neptune. But as an option. Ball and Bastion dropped out following the contract for the Su-35. Now they are buying in addition under already concluded contracts (which are beyond the sanctions, for example, for 80 BT-3 and 20 BMP-3 in addition)


      Buying exotic things for Indonesia is the norm.


  7. mark1
    mark1 25 December 2020 16: 15
    -1
    How do non-mergers manage to sell a client something that at the time of the transaction did not even come out of prototypes and was not properly tested ("Neptune", An-178, T-84)?
    1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
      Uncle Vanya Susanin 25 December 2020 19: 21
      +1
      How do non-mergers manage to sell a client something that at the time of the transaction did not even come out of prototypes and was not properly tested ("Neptune", An-178, T-84)?

      IMHO kickbacks help in this matter winked
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  9. nnm
    nnm 25 December 2020 16: 18
    +1
    Signing a memorandum and signing a contract are two big differences.
    A memo is a promise to get married.
    The contract is a stamp in the passport.
  10. bar
    bar 25 December 2020 16: 19
    0
    Ukraine will supply Indonesia with the Neptune anti-ship complex; the corresponding memorandum has already been signed.

    Or he won't. A memorandum is not a contract, and a promise does not mean getting married.
  11. askort154
    askort154 25 December 2020 16: 21
    +2
    Ukraine will supply Indonesia with the anti-ship complex "Neptune

    Ukraine has already "bet" to many, or rather, set them up.
    Even China is now suing her.
    1. Tochilka
      Tochilka 25 December 2020 20: 15
      0
      They sold the unfinished Varangian to themselves.
  12. Alien From
    Alien From 25 December 2020 16: 21
    0
    I wonder if they, like the Thais, will wait for the tanks .......?
  13. Tagan
    Tagan 25 December 2020 16: 26
    +6
    "A line of foreign armies is already lining up behind Neptune: Indonesia will be the first importer of ZhK-360MTS."
    The guys made my cloudy day before this news laughing
    1. HAM
      HAM 25 December 2020 16: 51
      +1
      "Neptuns" they have one piece, and the TURN is already worth ...............
  14. Voltsky
    Voltsky 25 December 2020 16: 39
    +1
    Ukraine will supply Indonesia with the anti-ship complex "Neptune"


    Thais and Iraqis did not grow together with Ukroboronprom, I wish good luck to Indonesians
  15. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 25 December 2020 16: 41
    -1
    It is far from Indonesia to Thailand and Bulgaria. They do not know yet how the skakuas fulfill contracts. Or just pocket money?
  16. Andrea
    Andrea 25 December 2020 16: 51
    +1
    Lengthy negotiations? what They have completed the tests only this year and have not put them into service, it seems, because there is nothing. Do the Indonesians need a pig in a poke, even for cheap?
    And a memorandum is a memorandum-paper that does not bind to anything.
    It is necessary to bring the Indonesians to the Iraqis, they will share their experience of how armored personnel carriers were bought in Ukraine.
    They didn’t even get this scrap metal out of the holds.
    The cherry on the cake is the line of foreign armies. laughing The Indonesian attaché was caught and tortured with vodka. laughing
  17. Scharnhorst
    Scharnhorst 25 December 2020 16: 52
    -2
    Ukraine has run out of lard, so first they will take an advance payment with palm oil. Papuans from the islands are very greedy for beads and mirrors, and they did not read newspapers about how Ukrainians shod Chinese from Motor Sich!
    1. IL-18
      IL-18 26 December 2020 00: 13
      +1
      Key here: palm oil. In Ukraine, the chemical industry makes fertilizers. Therefore, it is not a problem to make ersatstsalo from palm oil. The main thing here is to knock out an advance payment. And then they will refer to force majeure: Russia did not supply the components that make up the basis. request
  18. Svetlana
    Svetlana 25 December 2020 16: 54
    +7
    To the author: You are turning a more or less visited resource into another source of tabloids. Memorandum the conclusion of a contract is not a contract which you indicate in the title. Learn materiel, yo-mine.
    ..
    Of course, if you deliberately posted a flashy and different yellow headline, then I'm sorry.
  19. Avior
    Avior 25 December 2020 17: 05
    +2
    Radar 90K6E

    In Ukraine, they chose the Russian path - to organize their own production at the expense of foreign orders
  20. bars1
    bars1 25 December 2020 17: 30
    +1
    Quote: Avior
    In Ukraine, they chose the Russian path - to organize their own production at the expense of foreign orders

    This is the universal path of the rogue. Unfortunately, Russia also had to drink this cup ...
    1. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 25 December 2020 19: 57
      0
      Quote: bars1
      Quote: Avior
      In Ukraine, they chose the Russian path - to organize their own production at the expense of foreign orders

      This is the universal path of the rogue. Unfortunately, Russia also had to drink this cup ...

      So the USA is also from the same cohort. This year, the sale to Taiwan of coastal missile systems with the Harpoon anti-ship missile system was approved. Only here is an ambush - these DBKs are not yet available. They have to be made for Taiwanese 2 billion.
  21. Dimide
    Dimide 25 December 2020 17: 43
    -1
    There was also a memorandum with the Turks, now there is already a full-fledged agreement with specific steps and dates, with the responsibility of the parties
    1. nnm
      nnm 25 December 2020 17: 56
      0
      Colleague, you are confusing warm with soft. To conclude a contract to buy something, while laundering money, Ukraine still can. But to put it is a completely different song, after the military-industrial complex was killed and the cadres fled. Did they supply many ANs to the Saudis? And how the contract for payments was executed ...
      1. Dimide
        Dimide 25 December 2020 18: 17
        +2
        As far as I heard, the contract for ATGM from KB "Luch" is being executed on time
        1. nnm
          nnm 25 December 2020 18: 53
          -1
          I do not know what sources allow you to say this, the last thing that was heard about this contract was 25.12.20/XNUMX/XNUMX - the execution of the contract will begin in the coming weeks. Nothing has been delivered at all. When will they actually start delivering and whether they will start - it is not clear how much they will deliver - it is not clear, the quality is not clear.
          If you really mean "Cone".
        2. Uncle Vanya Susanin
          Uncle Vanya Susanin 25 December 2020 19: 24
          -1
          And the contract for machine guns for the Turks failed, a paradox request
  22. silverura
    silverura 25 December 2020 19: 05
    +2
    No matter how we joke with our neighbor, the fact is the fact. The defense does not stand still. Drones, radar systems, restoration of equipment from conservation, attraction of technology and funding by Western partners, brain pumping with militarism, as well as moral support from the West. If not a day, then an article about theirs wunderwolf. Everything in order to play them against us at some point. And thirty years ago, they ate gruel with them in the same barracks, and who could have thought. How so?
  23. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 25 December 2020 19: 15
    +6
    People are good to be shy.

    The fact that Ukraine made an anti-ship missile is a fact and it is no worse than our X-35 or the American Harpoon.

    And the fact that Ukraine signed a memorandum for the supply of these missiles to Indonesia is also a fact.

    And jokes about "Oplotov" are no longer relevant, the contract, although with delays, has been fulfilled.

    And I have only one question, why Indonesia bought missiles from Ukraine, and for example not from Russia or the United States.

    Looks like the price of the Ukrainian anti-ship missiles is very acceptable.

    Badly poor, but Ukraine is advancing in rocketry and this is a threat to us.
    1. silverura
      silverura 25 December 2020 19: 42
      +3
      And I have only one question, why Indonesia bought missiles from Ukraine, and for example not from Russia or the United States.
      1. So, apparently, not so bad missiles as we thought price-quality.
      2. Russia is under sanctions, and the guys from Indonesia do not want to have problems because of Russian weapons. What happened with Turkey.
      3. A service in the form of preferences in exchange for something, for example Motor Sich, etc.
      IMHO
      I heard that they also started producing blades for helicopters. Something like this.
    2. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 25 December 2020 19: 52
      +1
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      why Indonesia bought missiles from Ukraine, and for example not from Russia

      Indonesia is actively arming itself, but for the most part not with Russian weapons. US pressure plays a role here - their so-called Counter America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act (CAATSA). now, instead of the Su-35, they are discussing the purchase of "Rafale", instead of the Russian air combat missile systems - the American AIM-120C-5 AMRAAM.
      Neptune is being bought as a coastal missile system. The Americans do not have this (they are only planning to do it). Russia is scared. The Norwegians are expensive.
  24. leuss
    leuss 25 December 2020 19: 39
    +1
    Important note. "Ukraine has signed a memorandum" with Indonesia and "Ukraine will supply the complexes" are different concepts. A “memorandum” is a document identifying and discussing the interests of the parties. This is not even a preliminary agreement. We are waiting for additional information. The Ukrainian side could disseminate this information in order to preliminarily declare "Neptune" on the international arms market as a product available for orders.
  25. Old26
    Old26 25 December 2020 19: 46
    +1
    Quote: OrangeBigg
    Ukraine will supply Indonesia with the Neptune anti-ship complex; the corresponding memorandum has already been signed.

    It seems that Ukraine has decided to recoup Fate for the Budapest memorandum and therefore signs all sorts of memorandums for An aircraft, for the construction of Turkish corvettes (at the virtually liquidated Nikolaev shipyard), now also a memorandum for the nonexistent anti-ship missiles Neptune, in order to then cynically throw everyone in a row how they were thrown. Show me at least one of their memorandums that would grow from a non-binding intention to a real contract.

    Well, you're not entirely right. The complex has been created. Here are just days to order a couple of divisions from the Armed Forces of Ukraine. So we decided to "push" over the hill. Maybe some money will appear (if the higher ones do not plunder)
    Maybe they won't throw the Indonesians ...
    1. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 26 December 2020 01: 03
      0
      Quote: Old26
      The complex has been created. Here are just days to order a couple of divisions from the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

      there was information that the next year in the Armed Forces of Ukraine it is planned to supply three divisions of the BRK RK-360MTS
      They have at least one (perhaps not complete in terms of the number of SPU) - the one from which they conducted test firing.
  26. ficus2003
    ficus2003 25 December 2020 21: 16
    0
    Indonesia wants to repeat the bitter experience of Argentina and Iraq.
  27. ficus2003
    ficus2003 25 December 2020 21: 20
    -2
    Quote: Old26
    The complex has been created. Here are just days to order a couple of divisions from the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

    There is a big difference between "created" and created. Before that, the "Hammer" mortar was "created" which exploded. This applies to all countries and especially such underdeveloped ones as Ukraine.
  28. Kushka
    Kushka 25 December 2020 21: 21
    +3
    [quote = Lipchanin] [quote = antivirus]
    In reality, one of the sides will fly like a building material over one of the European capitals.
    [Quote]
    They fly over not only over Europe.
    In the USA, one person posted an ad - sell
    inexpensive for everyone, a simple device for
    making holes in ANY material
    ANY diameter. Raised a bunch of money and sent
    each with a hammer and chisel. All to court, judge of all
    forest - device sent? makes holes?
    any? All to the exit.
  29. Vitas
    Vitas 26 December 2020 06: 54
    0
    Ukrainian deputies understand that they will never use this complex, so why spend money? Here are the shells for Donbass, it is possible or there is a machine gun to come up with.
  30. wow
    wow 26 December 2020 08: 30
    0
    Throw Indonesians for money, how to drink give throw!
  31. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 26 December 2020 10: 46
    0
    memorandum memorandum and key phrase ...... If the contract is signed, Indonesia could become the first overseas buyer of uk ..... great .... do you have a plan Mr. Fix
  32. Captan78
    Captan78 26 December 2020 12: 07
    -1
    As they say, the mice cried, injected, but continued to eat the cactus ..
  33. garik77
    garik77 26 December 2020 13: 00
    -2
    Ahaha ... Does anyone believe this? laughing
  34. Old26
    Old26 26 December 2020 19: 58
    +6
    Quote: ficus2003
    There is a big difference between "created" and created. Before that, the "Hammer" mortar was "created" which exploded. This applies to all countries and especially such underdeveloped ones as Ukraine.

    Can you give an example of when "Neptune" exploded on tests? Or just blah blah. Do not underestimate even such a neighbor. And then you listen, it's been 10 years since their military-industrial complex has not been working, but they are doing something and this starts to surprise some of us: "how could they, their hands are not from there ...."