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Goals and objectives of the Federal Security Service

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Goals and objectives of the Federal Security Service

Recently, on the part of a well-known blogger speaking from abroad and calling himself a victim of the use of chemical weapons, showed themselves open attacks on the Russian special services. For obvious reasons, the blogger is unlikely to act purely on his own initiative, but the fact remains.


Attempts are underway to portray the employees of the Federal Security Service as "narrow-minded" and "semi-professional" persons who perform "illegal tasks", but more often "fail all the work."

As they say, a cognitive dissonance sets in: on the one hand, the Russian special services are accused by the West of "interference", conducting "secret operations" and "hacker attacks", on the other hand, the Russian special services are called "unprofessional." So they would have decided already, in the end ...

Lawyer Anton Kornev explains what the Federal Security Service is all about.

Lawyer:

The main task of the FSB is to ensure the security of the Russian Federation. The FSB operates both on the territory of the Russian Federation and outside it, if security issues require it.

The author of the video talks about historical stages of formation of the service, about its features and legal principles of functioning:

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  1. Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 25 December 2020 13: 15
    -7
    Some visitors would also do well to familiarize themselves with the goals and objectives set for the FSB. By the way, on a long-language note: the Federation Council approved a law that increases criminal liability for libel on the Internet. It is noted that the dissemination of deliberately false information discrediting the honor and dignity of another person or undermining his reputation will be punished with a fine of up to 500 thousand rubles or in the amount of salary or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to six months or compulsory labor for a period of up to 160 hours.
    Libel on the Internet will be punishable by a fine of up to a million rubles or up to two years in prison.
    Amendments are made to article 128.1 of the Criminal Code (Criminal Code) of the Russian Federation ("Slander"). hi
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 13: 33
      +4
      Libel on the Internet will be punishable by a fine of up to a million rubles or up to two years in prison.
      Many of our members of the forum can be accused of slander ... the law is crude and very poorly thought out ... the State Duma deputies, to put it mildly, were hasty by hastily adopting it without considering law enforcement practice.
      Therefore, I can legally accuse anyone of defamation who says something that I do not like.
      The law is more like the fight against dissent in our country than against slanderers.
      Besides, what can this law do against a slanderer from another country who has registered on our forum? ... nothing. hi
      An attempt to curb freedom of speech by such methods will not lead to anything good ... people will simply stop speaking out loud, but inside this irritation will only grow and will lead to various excesses.
      1. bk316
        bk316 25 December 2020 13: 57
        +6
        Therefore, under the law, I can accuse anyone of defamation who says something that I don't like.

        You can't, you have to prove it. Well, that is, you can blame it, but you yourself will fall under Article 306
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 14: 23
          +1
          You can't, you have to prove it. Well, that is, you can blame it, but you yourself will fall under Article 306

          In short, it is better to be silent in a rag, huddle in a hole and sit quieter than water and below the grass and not discuss anything that someone would not accuse of libel ... maybe it will carry it ... well ... where are we going.
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 25 December 2020 14: 52
            +1
            History teaches nothing to some who have set themselves "eternal paradise". They just rejoice in vain.

          2. bk316
            bk316 25 December 2020 16: 07
            +5
            In short, it's better to be silent in a rag,

            You just have to answer for the words. Not to write "he is a thief", if there is no court decision, not to write, he cannot do anything, if you yourself do not understand anything about these matters. Do not write "I saw myself" if I have not seen anything myself. In general, just do not lie and watch your words.
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 16: 56
              -1
              Do not write "he is a thief" if there is no court decision,

              If a person steals a radio tape recorder from my car in front of my eyes, then I have no right to call him a thief without a court decision ... this is absurd in its purest form. belay
              That is, I must be responsible for what the thief called a thief not by a court decision ... beyond logic.
              1. bk316
                bk316 25 December 2020 17: 05
                0
                If a person steals a radio tape recorder from my car in front of my eyes, then I have no right to call him a thief without a court decision ... this is absurd in its purest form

                So I write that you are far from right.
                Let's take a look at your case.
                You come to the car and see that the door is open and some person is supposedly taking out something with your radio tape recorder. In your opinion, he is a thief, that is, he should be convicted under Article 58 of the Criminal Code. Now imagine that this is an FSB officer and he is MINING your car, working on a signal from citizens. He saves your life and you are a thief ...
                Therefore, they came up with the rule of law NOBODY you hear, no one can determine the guilt of a person except the court.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 25 December 2020 22: 16
                  +2
                  Quote: bk316
                  Now imagine that this is an FSB officer and he is MINING your car

                  And then with this mine he runs away so that his heels sparkle ... laughing
                2. Lech from Android.
                  Lech from Android. 26 December 2020 05: 27
                  -2
                  that this is an FSB officer and he is MINING your car,

                  I can't imagine ... the absurdity is nowhere worse ... it is clear that you are far from real life ... a man in civilian clothes is sitting in a car and takes off the radio tape recorder in his pocket, he has already put my DVR in his pocket ... he pulled scissors out of his pocket threatening to use them when trying to stop him ... heh he miner of the FSB ... he is a thief ... in plain text I am writing to you a thief, and in Africa respected thief Vladimir, and no court will convince me otherwise. hi
              2. Rusland
                Rusland 25 December 2020 18: 33
                +5
                Quote: Lech from Android.
                Do not write "he is a thief" if there is no court decision,

                If a person steals a radio tape recorder from my car in front of my eyes, then I have no right to call him a thief without a court decision ... this is absurd in its purest form. belay
                That is, I must be responsible for what the thief called a thief not by a court decision ... beyond logic.

                Oh, the second nickname of the Tayot wheel from the tire. laughingHave you devoured the white horse?
          3. Rusland
            Rusland 25 December 2020 18: 39
            +3
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            You can't, you have to prove it. Well, that is, you can blame it, but you yourself will fall under Article 306

            In short, it is better to be silent in a rag, huddle in a hole and sit quieter than water and below the grass and not discuss anything that someone would not accuse of libel ... maybe it will carry it ... well ... where are we going.

            Lexus, you've already bothered with your second nickname. No.
      2. Revival
        Revival 25 December 2020 14: 35
        -2
        So judging by the comment of "Mikhalych", this is exactly what he and the same warms the soul, the expanse of interpretations, when necessary and depending on who needs
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 25 December 2020 15: 00
          +1
          He hopes that Doolin will cover his "rear." wassat
          1. Mykhalych
            Mykhalych 25 December 2020 22: 39
            +1
            Quote: lexus
            He hopes that Doolin will "cover" his "rear"

            Explain, I'm not on Topics. Who is Doolin? And why should he cover my "rear"?
      3. bk316
        bk316 25 December 2020 16: 20
        +2
        the law is crude and very poorly thought out ..

        What law are you talking about? No new corpus delicti or their signs were introduced.
        Article 128 exists for hell knows how many years ...
        His law enforcement is pretty rotten.
        Maybe I missed something?
      4. Rusland
        Rusland 25 December 2020 18: 44
        +4
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Libel on the Internet will be punishable by a fine of up to a million rubles or up to two years in prison.
        Many of our members of the forum can be accused of slander ... the law is crude and very poorly thought out ... the State Duma deputies, to put it mildly, were hasty by hastily adopting it without considering law enforcement practice.
        Therefore, I can legally accuse anyone of defamation who says something that I do not like.
        The law is more like the fight against dissent in our country than against slanderers.
        Besides, what can this law do against a slanderer from another country who has registered on our forum? ... nothing. hi
        An attempt to curb freedom of speech by such methods will not lead to anything good ... people will simply stop speaking out loud, but inside this irritation will only grow and will lead to various excesses.

        Lexus, you at least change the style, the teachers of literature are completely mortified. No.
      5. Rusland
        Rusland 25 December 2020 18: 52
        +2
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        Many of our members of the forum can be slandered ...

        What, Lexus? Was it zasverbil?
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 25 December 2020 13: 36
      +2
      What is wrong with the punishment for libel?
      To answer for your "market", it's time to learn.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 13: 39
        +4
        To answer for your "market", it's time to learn.

        We must answer, of course ... but imagine that a person only expresses his own version of the event (hypothesis) and, on the basis of this, is imprisoned for libel ... this does not fit into any gate.
        In our state anything is possible ... and such laws expand the possibilities of lawlessness.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 25 December 2020 13: 44
          +2
          How, when, there will be a "misunderstanding", then it will be necessary to understand the fact of the event !!! That is how it should be.
          Then, I always REMEMBER that in any state there is such a "phenomenon" as zealous fools, guardians of departmental, personal and other, unreasonable, and even illegal interests !!!
          We have this, there will be more scandals with wholesale and not a few.
          These can only be resisted by COMMUNICATION, PUBLIC ... they do not like this terribly and immediately shove their zeal and nonsense away.
          I am sure it will not be EASY, but also leave everything as it is, no urine.
          For the "bazaar" must be answered, BY LAW.
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 13: 52
            +2
            For the "bazaar" must be answered, BY LAW.

            Khodorkovsky recently accused Chubais of millions in bribes in foreign currency in the 90s ... who should be imprisoned by law? smile
            1. bk316
              bk316 25 December 2020 14: 04
              +1
              Khodorkovsky recently accused Chubais of millions in bribes in foreign currency in the 90s ...

              Feels not strong in the laws. laughing
              Nobody's answer
              Hodor can only be fined
              Chubais's statute of limitations fell
              1. Lech from Android.
                Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 14: 11
                0
                Feels not strong in the laws. laughing

                Not knowing the law does not exempt one from his heavy hand on the back of the head.
                And how do you do this ... will we plant? ... and who?
            2. rocket757
              rocket757 25 December 2020 14: 05
              +4
              The question is difficult / simple.
              Another nasty "phenomenon", which is not so rare in many places. I'm not saying that everything is fine with us and that everyone lives only by the law ... we will also have to fight and win with this if we want to live with dignity.
            3. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 25 December 2020 14: 17
              0
              Quote: Lech from Android.
              For the "bazaar" must be answered, BY LAW.

              Khodorkovsky recently accused Chubais of millions in bribes in foreign currency in the 90s ... who should be imprisoned by law? smile

              Have you completely lost the coast? You would have written about the Ozero cooperative ... Or you remembered about criminal case 144128 ... Or you asked about the 1998 default in terms of the defendants ...
              You see proposals from Russian citizens:
              For the "bazaar" must be answered, BY LAW.

              So they came up with the law ... And today they showed a case of a shepherd dog attacking a child ... Yesterday an aunt living in Moscow and keeping three dozen dogs in an apartment in another city ...

              People suffer for a specific reason: pet lawlessness. And the most "tearful" is that society legally protects dogs and their owners, giving them the rights of immunity. But you - "plebeians", have decided to swing the rights ... Or here:

              Tongue in (armpit) ... It went into the forest ...
              1. Lech from Android.
                Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 14: 28
                -4
                But you are "plebeians", you have decided to swing the rights ...

                Now you have lost the shores ... why should I accuse you of slander?
                Maybe you have become a patrician and those who are lower than you in position consider worthless plebeians who have no right to anything ... you have not erected yourself too high on a pedestal ... have you not begun to bronze yet? smile hi
                I constantly study the criminal chronicle in its much worse manifestations ... of course, what is happening in the provinces is sometimes creepy to read.
                I would like to live in Paradise, where all people are brothers and sisters, where there is no violence and grief ... alas, we live in a completely different world.
                1. Ross xnumx
                  Ross xnumx 25 December 2020 15: 16
                  -1
                  Quote: Lech from Android.
                  Now you have lost the shores ...

                  This is sarcasm ... I personally do not accuse you of anything. It just seemed to me that such reports:

                  tired of a certain circle. And, in general, all these strife around:
                  MOSCOW, December 25. / TASS /. At a meeting on Friday, the Federation Council approved a law on the possibility of banning the release of information (including property information) about judges, prosecutors, employees of the Investigative Committee, the FSB and certain categories of the military, even without an immediate threat to their safety.

                  And, after all, the tasks of the FSB relate primarily to ensuring the security of the state, in protecting its sovereignty ...
                  drinks
                  1. Lech from Android.
                    Lech from Android. 26 December 2020 05: 35
                    -2
                    Yuri Vasilievich I'm sorry ... hi then I misunderstood you.
            4. VORON538
              VORON538 25 December 2020 16: 15
              +2
              Can both ??? laughing
              Laughter laughter, but we have a long-rooted opinion that stealing from a person is one thing, but from the state it is quite another and they think it is not theft
              Or maybe the matter is not measured by Chubais, Bulk, Gaidar-Chernomyrdin-Kasyanov and Putin, but by the personal responsibility of each individual citizen to himself and his children for the fate of the state? Unfortunately, our society is far from this! Therefore, it makes no sense to blame the authorities. They are the same as the rest of the citizens of Russia, only there are sometimes more opportunities. You can at least drive them into the skull, but this is my IMH!
              1. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan 26 December 2020 13: 23
                -3
                They are the same as the rest of the citizens of Russia,
                No, not like that. This law will not apply against them, for example, "talking mustache" ie. Peskov called Navalny a CIA agent, he lied, yes. Lyokha filed an application, and what, the case was opened? That's just it, the case for lies will be started only against the unwanted.
          2. bk316
            bk316 25 December 2020 14: 02
            0
            You must answer for the "bazaar", BY LAW

            Absolutely!
          3. Revival
            Revival 25 December 2020 14: 36
            +1
            Yeah, look, for example, the galamina case, it's about the practice of using, of course, random
          4. Revival
            Revival 25 December 2020 15: 01
            -2
            "How, when, there will be a" misunderstanding ", then it will be necessary to understand the fact of the event !!!".

            It's too late to sort it out then!
            And this, in particular, will no longer be a misunderstanding, but a verdict, which with such laws can only be supported or silent in a rag, so that the next "misunderstanding" does not happen, already with those who said that there was a "misunderstanding".

            No, this is not repression, no, definitely not ...
            1. Fan-fan
              Fan-fan 26 December 2020 13: 25
              -2
              This is a real repression, 37 is back. After all, it is clear that this law will be applied only against the unwanted.
        2. bk316
          bk316 25 December 2020 14: 00
          +2
          your version of the event (hypothesis)

          You cannot be attracted for this. But if you pass off your hypothesis as a fact, then you can. By the way, a lot of people on the Internet are doing this.

          So it's very simple, always separate flies from cutlets (speculation from facts).
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 14: 05
            -1
            your version of the event (hypothesis)

            You cannot be attracted for this.

            Well, thank God they comforted smile ... I hope not to run into some kind of intern from the prosecutor's office on the forum who does not know this.
          2. Revival
            Revival 25 December 2020 15: 31
            0
            Yes, in my personal opinion, we have already seen how this can work, the expert independently, of course, makes a conclusion for the investigator / court that, although it does not directly follow from what has been said, the context is seen.
            And the rest of the experts, even academicians, are not worthy of the court's attention, strange right? Or is it not strange?
            That's it, We've arrived ...
        3. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 25 December 2020 14: 04
          +3
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          We must answer, of course ... but imagine that a person only expresses his own version of the event (hypothesis) and, on the basis of this, is imprisoned for libel ... this does not fit into any gate.

          There Platoshkin N.N. still understands 36 volumes of the terrorism case filed against him.
          Yes, everything is clear here:
          MOSCOW, December 25. / TASS /. The Federation Council at a meeting on Friday approved a law on the possibility of banning the issuance of information (including property information) about judges, prosecutors, employees of the Investigative Committee, the FSB and certain categories of the military even without an immediate threat to their safety.

          A plastic cup will be equated with a cold weapon, and a sidelong glance will be regarded as a case without an immediate threat to their safety ...
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 14: 16
            +2
            Platoshkin terrorist? belay bullshit ... his tongue, of course, is unrestrained, but he has never been and never will be a terrorist ... this man is not of such a cast.
            But here the actions of the authorities are understandable ... to remove this person away from the fragile minds of the citizens of Russia so as not to embarrass them towards rebellion and disobedience to the authorities ... as old as the socks of the autocrat Nicholas 1. hi
        4. Rusland
          Rusland 25 December 2020 18: 48
          +4
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Anything is possible in our state ...

          Lexus got another nickname, well done. yes
        5. Plate
          Plate 27 December 2020 10: 59
          0
          but imagine that a person expresses only his version of the event (hypothesis) and on the basis of this he is put in prison for libel

          And who did he slander, if in the version of events specific persons are usually not mentioned? Well, I'll write the opinion that it was not we who bombed ISIS, but the Turks. Who am I slandering? Whose rights were affected?
      2. WIKI
        WIKI 25 December 2020 14: 11
        +4
        Quote: rocket757
        To answer for your "market", it's time to learn.

        I would have looked at you, after you would have performed similar actions, contrary to common sense, and existing laws. I think they would sing differently.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 25 December 2020 14: 16
          +5
          Do you think that to defame a person, to spoil him a lot of things, it's just like a joke ???
          Need MUTUAL RESPONSIBILITY !!! This is the only way to resist both libel and illegal actions of servicemen!
          Do you know another way? Name.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 25 December 2020 14: 24
            +4
            Quote: rocket757
            Do you know another way? Name.

            PUNISHMENT SHOULD BE ADEQUATE TO ACCIDENT. A PERSON STANDING IN THE PUBLIC SERVICE AND HAVING A CASE OF ILLEGALITY AGAINST A CITIZEN OF RUSSIA SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE SERVICE FOR LIFE, WITH REMOVAL OF TITLES, AWARDS AND AWARDS. AT THIS STAY IN RESIDENCE OR ON PENSION DOES NOT EXEMPT THE OFFICER FROM SUCH LIABILITY.
            You can continue ... wassat
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 25 December 2020 15: 21
              +2
              So this is the only way that I wrote about.
              Responsibility of ALL before the law, strictly according to the law.
              Do you seem to misunderstand the expression MUTUAL RESPONSIBILITY? I meant that everyone should be equal before the law. The one who criticizes and the one who evaluates the criticism .... for lying to be responsible as it should, as well as for exceeding authority, incorrect assessment of OBJECTIVE, TRUE criticism, for which the person criticizing may be unreasonably punished.
              The only way.
              Is there any other way .... other than dueling, of course?
          2. WIKI
            WIKI 25 December 2020 15: 09
            -1
            Quote: rocket757
            Need MUTUAL RESPONSIBILITY !!! This is the only way to resist both libel and illegal actions of servicemen!
            Do you know another way? Name.

            I gave you an example of the irresponsibility of state bodies, and in such a state of the state machine, you propose to introduce liability for libel. This will be another means of dealing with dissidents and dissidents. And you will continue to describe everything in streamlined phrases, no matter what happens.
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 25 December 2020 15: 25
              +2
              Libel, a criminal offense.
              Abuse of official authority, prosecution for reasonable criticism, CRIMINAL PUNISHED ACT!
              All are equal before the law.
              It is necessary to strive for this, it is worth fighting for ...
              But your position is more reminiscent of exactly - No matter what happens.
              1. bk316
                bk316 25 December 2020 16: 02
                +3
                It is necessary to strive for this, it is worth fighting for ...

                You are right, but I repeat. To begin with, I would pass a law on the lack of anonymity on the Internet.
                Would already give a lot.
                Anonymity creates the illusion of impunity, and impunity contributes to the manifestation of the worst sides of people, including rudeness and lies.
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 25 December 2020 16: 16
                  +3
                  Quote: bk316
                  To begin with, I would pass a law on the absence of anonymity on the Internet.

                  A lot of things are needed to start, then to continue ...
                  To be honest, it gets boring to write the same thing.
                  And again, unfortunately - our laws are oak, but then you can remember about the linden.
                2. Ross xnumx
                  Ross xnumx 25 December 2020 17: 15
                  0
                  Quote: bk316
                  You are right, but I repeat. To begin with, I would pass a law on the lack of anonymity on the Internet.
                  Would already give a lot.

                  You are our lover of truth! fellow To begin with (I myself already suggested), let's try to explain to the site administration that increasing / decreasing the reputation of site users should not be anonymous, and only then, we will take on the entire Internet, in general ... wassat
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 25 December 2020 17: 25
                    +3
                    Quote: ROSS 42
                    To begin with (I myself have already suggested), let's try to explain to the site administration that increasing / decreasing the reputation of site users should not be anonymous,

                    And where are we going to go to the notorious sect or what is left of it? They are vicious troilikas and minuses will throw, only on the way. yes
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 25 December 2020 18: 32
                      +2
                      Ha, you have phantom pains.
                      Cons can be gained for your position on any topic, simply by going against the tide.
                      There are topics that are marked by activity, an aggressive support group for the subject of discussion, most often. There, just write against their opinion, they will peck and so on.
                      However, about the openness of personal haters, I don't care .... I don’t put downsides in principle, never, to anyone.
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 25 December 2020 18: 38
                        +4
                        Quote: rocket757
                        There are topics in which there is an active, aggressive support group. There, just write against their opinion, they will peck and so on.

                        Let's say that you and I don't give a damn about these disadvantages.
                        Quote: rocket757
                        However, about the openness of personal haters, I don't care .... I don’t put downsides in principle, never, to anyone.

                        I can say that in those ancient times, any posed mendel, posed on your panel and you could ask a question about the rationale for this action! and battles in the steakhs unfolded for months !!! It was then, in my opinion, that a certain community with the VO logo was created, and there is nothing to say about the level of discussions.
                      2. rocket757
                        rocket757 25 December 2020 18: 47
                        +3
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        and you could ask a question about the rationale for this action

                        It was interesting! Sometimes you really want to ask a question - what do you mean against!
                      3. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 25 December 2020 18: 58
                        +3
                        Quote: rocket757
                        It was interesting! Sometimes you really want to ask a question - what do you mean against!

                        comrade, that's what I'm talking about, when you see your opponent, you can ask a question, "justify"! But not every psyche can withstand this stuffing with a shovel. And it is because of this that many specialists left the site, he will remember when Rudolph wrote that he could recruit two full-fledged submarine crews on the site !!!
                        And where did the VAF and the SSI go?
                        Where are the Tankers? Not Wirth, but real? Where is Arta? Where are the gunsmiths? The oculoocultic garbage sect absorbed and expelled all those who were undesirable with its minuses and inflated ratings. voila, we have ...
                      4. rocket757
                        rocket757 25 December 2020 19: 31
                        +5
                        All the same, fans of discussions on technical topics, less expressive people. Without the participation of talkative amateurs looking for knowledge on WIKI, the discussion becomes ... boring, so to speak.
                        What can two gunners argue about, for example, if they know what a scattering cone is and barrels wear out for all guns ??? But the dilettante will prove with foam at the mouth that the railgun can finish off the moon !!!
                        Touch Saint Mask now .... he has, is, his own sect, whose adherents hope to soon ride in a hyperloop.
                      5. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 25 December 2020 20: 27
                        +3
                        Quote: rocket757
                        What can two artillery argue about. And who will tell me that this is not a MLRS of a new generation, for example, if they know what a scattering cone is and the barrels wear out for all guns ???

                        But no, when they talked about the same MLRS, there were the same opinions about their use, and even if you get acquainted with the nomenclature of b / s, then, and better to the museum!))) The use of automatic systems in these roughly speaking guides, tried to establish back in late 80s. And now here is Sparit China. And who will tell me that this is not the MLRS of the future?
                        Fucked up again ...
                      6. rocket757
                        rocket757 25 December 2020 22: 51
                        +3
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        then, and better to the museum

                        Yes, we, old people, will soon become exhibits ourselves ... and MLRS, we had to, we had one training, as a specialist in electronics / teaching aids, went to set up an automated examination-training machine for them. So sho the MLRS ammunition range was examined and probed, in the context, except for special products, of course ... it was a long time ago. Soon we will be assigned to the museum.
                  2. Serg65
                    Serg65 28 December 2020 10: 04
                    +1
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    The oculoocultic garbage sect absorbed and expelled all the unwanted with its minuses and inflated ratings. voila, we have ...

                    belay Valera, since when did you engage in self-criticism?
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    And it is because of this that many specialists left the site, he will remember when Rudolph wrote that he could recruit two full-fledged submarine crews on the site !!!
                    And where did the VAF and the SSI go?
                    Where are the Tankers? Not Wirth, but real?

                    So your sect of emo-communists, disgruntled Ukrainians, nationalists squeezed them all out, didn't it? As for me ... even a completely neutral comment and then 15-16 minuses, and then you will go over the previous ones ...
                    Do you talk about ..
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    not every psyche can stand this nashvyrivanivanie with a shovel.
                  3. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 28 December 2020 11: 33
                    +2
                    Quote: Serg65
                    So your sect of emo-communists, disgruntled Ukrainians, nationalists squeezed them all out, didn't it? As for me ... even a completely neutral comment and then 15-16 minuses, and then you will go over the previous ones ...

                    Seryozha, I will remind you that I spent 2,5 years in the bathhouse, did not go to the site and did not intend to return. So your tears are definitely not for me.
                  4. Serg65
                    Serg65 28 December 2020 12: 02
                    -2
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    I have been in the bath for 2,5 years

                    what and who sent you to the bathhouse?
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    So your tears are definitely not for me.

                    belay And to whom ??? Is it not your company, headed by Svarog, under a strong roof, overwhelms everyone with minuses and often without explanation ???
                  5. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 28 December 2020 12: 28
                    +2
                    Quote: Serg65
                    And to whom ??? Is it not your company, headed by Svarog, under a strong roof, overwhelms everyone with minuses and often without explanation ???

                    Seryozha, did you poorly understand what I wrote? I have not been a member of any groupings and coalitions and do not intend to, I have friends on the site with whom I communicate well in real life, regardless of political preferences.
                    And I learned about all the local intrigues after the fact and by and large I do not care about them, as well as +/-.
            2. Okolotochny
              Okolotochny 28 December 2020 10: 28
              -3
              What nuclear submarines, VAF, SSI ??? Have you even served a term ??? crying
            3. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 28 December 2020 18: 04
              +3
              Quote: Okolotochny
              Have you even served a term ???

              Well, that's where you served everyone reliably knows and a strange thing, from all your gop-company, someone is sincerely sorry, like, for example, the 51st, someone is generally quite decent people and only you cause a feeling of some kind of disgust or disgust, or something ...Fu Fu Fu....
  • bk316
    bk316 25 December 2020 23: 26
    +1
    You are our lover of truth!

    How is it with the "electronic" microscope pl4427? laughing
  • Revival
    Revival 25 December 2020 22: 34
    0
    "Abuse of official authority, prosecution for reasonable criticism, CRIMINAL ACTION!
    All are equal before the law. "

    Where!?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 25 December 2020 22: 52
      +2
      In my dreams, for example. This must be achieved, it will not appear on its own.
  • bk316
    bk316 25 December 2020 16: 05
    +5
    This will be another means of dealing with dissidents and dissidents.

    A citizen is not someone who criticizes the authorities all the time.
    Civil society is not a crowd of anonymous people.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom to lie.
    The word dissenter is the root of the word thought.
    There is no need to introduce liability for defamation - it already exists.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 25 December 2020 16: 18
      +3
      Quote: bk316
      Freedom of speech is not freedom to lie.

      It should be like a clause in the law.
      Although, there are still many necessary points to be added.
      1. bk316
        bk316 25 December 2020 16: 24
        +5
        As a mathematician, I understand that freedom of speech is generally nonsense, a burp of democracy.
        There should be freedom to disseminate and receive information.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 25 December 2020 17: 26
      +1
      Quote: bk316
      There is no need to introduce liability for defamation - it already exists.

      Slander - knowingly false defamatory information or dissemination of knowingly false information discrediting the honor and dignity of another person or undermining his reputation ...
      It is only possible to undermine a person's reputation, defame a person, and humiliate him in the eyes of citizens. A fist whisper is not heard from a distance. We have already encountered the right to libel representatives of the authorities and our own right to splash out emotions as much as possible. Won ...
      Quote: bk316
      A citizen is not someone who criticizes the authorities all the time.

      Power is not a birthright or a privilege obtained through manipulation of the law. And it is given only so that the number of citizens in the country grows from year to year, and their well-being grows. If in most cases this does not happen, then the authorities should not worry about the "silence of the lambs."
      Quote: bk316
      Civil society is not a crowd of anonymous people.

      And every law, every decree, decree, breakthrough, breakthrough and other measure is obliged to the name of a specific author who is responsible for both its success and its failure. And we have:
      Victory has a thousand fathers, and defeat is always an orphan

      hi
    3. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 25 December 2020 17: 48
      +2
      Quote: bk316
      A citizen is not someone who criticizes the authorities all the time.
      Civil society is not a crowd of anonymous people.

      And I will tell you this, there is no need to elevate a certain power to the rank of a sacred cow, these are just managers hired by citizens to perform a certain function, did not fulfill it bye.
      And in front of us for 20 years, at least someone has reported on the work done?
      1. bk316
        bk316 25 December 2020 17: 56
        +4
        And I will tell you this, there is no need to elevate a certain power to the rank of a sacred cow, these are just managers hired by citizens to perform a certain function, did not fulfill it bye.

        Sling cutter you, like all fighters, again did not understand anything.
        Tighten up. I did not say that a citizen should not criticize the authorities, just criticism of the authorities has almost nothing to do with the concept of a citizen.
        Criticize the authorities do not criticize a citizen because of this you will not become, and vice versa, you will not cease to be.
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    5. WIKI
      WIKI 25 December 2020 21: 18
      0
      Quote: bk316
      A citizen is not someone who criticizes the authorities all the time.
      Civil society is not a crowd of anonymous people.
      Freedom of speech is not freedom to lie.
      The word dissenter is the root of the word thought.
      There is no need to introduce liability for defamation - it already exists.

      Why have you brought these lofty concepts to me now, in the form of moralizing? They will remain words. In this particular case, I would prefer to evaluate actions on words. And here everything happens just as it was written: "It doesn't matter how they vote, it is important how they count." I would like that people who think in high matters more often find themselves in Platoshkin's place in order to lower them from heaven to sinful earth.
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 25 December 2020 21: 39
    +3
    Quote: rocket757
    What is wrong with the punishment for libel?
    To answer for your "market", it's time to learn.

    Well Duc if we switched to that jargon of the 90s, therefore the pleyshführer will answer "for the market"?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 25 December 2020 23: 00
      +1
      And who among us does not know some non-standard expressions not from literary circles?
      It doesn't paint anyone, but this is the reality.
  • bk316
    bk316 25 December 2020 14: 06
    +2
    By the way, on a note of long-language:

    The fact is that the FSB has nothing to do with it. It is libel against a citizen, not an organization, you read the article of the Criminal Code.
    But for phrases in relation to, for example, Rogozin or Shoigu, you can pay several Lyamas.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 14: 17
      0
      But for phrases in relation to, for example, Rogozin or Shoigu, you can pay several Lyamas.

      At our forum, so many people have been told about Rogozin ... for two hundred years of imprisonment, each without the right to pardon ... if Rogozin wants to, everyone can solder a million-dollar lawsuit and become a billionaire.
      1. bk316
        bk316 25 December 2020 15: 51
        +4
        At our forum, so many people talked about Rogozin.

        Lech, a naive person laughing (sorry, please) so that's the beauty - you can press any
    2. Evil Booth
      Evil Booth 25 December 2020 21: 46
      +1
      The falcon maniac received for illegal weapons + murder + dismemberment 12,5 without mitigating (for murder, the minimum ceiling is 15, although even here it takes away all 80 and will receive 15s of parole and the consequence is half a year in a year). and for a civil servant from 12 to life. so compare from 12 to 317 and that amount of 12,5. am
  • Lexus
    Lexus 25 December 2020 14: 45
    +1
    Where to send worn panties?
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 15: 16
      -2
      Where to send worn panties?

      Lehe Navalny in Berlin ... he collects underpants there with Novice. smile
  • Revival
    Revival 25 December 2020 14: 56
    +2
    "Some visitors would also do well to get acquainted with the goals and objectives set for the FSB."

    Yes, many have already read ...
  • solzh
    solzh 25 December 2020 18: 04
    +3
    Quote: Mykhalych
    By the way, a note of the long-language

    Good. Here's a hypothetical situation. Some people, in social networks or on any website, related to the current employees of some departments, plus those who joined them, organized a kind of community with their own charter, requirements and not for everyone clear goals. Can you explain which article this organization falls under?
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 25 December 2020 19: 22
      +1
      There is such a commonality in nature - the rat king. He pulled one - all into the light and pulled.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 25 December 2020 19: 47
        +2
        Quote: lexus
        There is such a commonality in nature - the rat king. He pulled one - all into the light and pulled.

        Well, Kamrad is now describing the true story, when mastur-parties with epaulettes of firefighter captains want to become an organization! Lyosha! I'm dancing crying laughing
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 25 December 2020 19: 57
          +1
          The Chukhans need to somehow identify themselves. Here they "draw" and "crow". laughing
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 25 December 2020 20: 07
            +2
            Quote: lexus
            Losers and chukhans are always brightly drawn. And then they begin to "crow".

            I go out to the park in the evening
            And from behind the branches I follow the prey.
            Until the third cock crows,
            I drive girls and old women through the park.

            I love them all! I want them all!
            I'm running naked and screaming scary!
            Hormonal intoxication in my head.
            I am a sex schizophrenic! I'm an erotomaniac!

            Grass and bushes turn me on!
            Rivers and bridges turn me on!
            The colored sundress turns me on!
            I am a hopeless erotomaniac!

            The clock on the wall turns me on!
            Flowers on the window turn me on!
            The five year plan turns me on!
            I am a hopeless erotomaniac!


            Harvester and grain turn me on!
            Silent movies turn me on!
            The tower crane turns me on!
            I am a hopeless erotomaniac!

            The LMG turns me on!
            Aeroflot turns me on!
            The faceted glass turns me on!
            I am a hopeless erotomaniac!
            Eroto-eroto-erotomaniac!

            E-RO-TO-MAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
            laughing laughing laughing
            1. Evil Booth
              Evil Booth 25 December 2020 21: 47
              +2
              where is the uranium rod? (c) atomflot
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 25 December 2020 19: 40
      +2
      Quote: solzh
      those related to the current employees of some departments, plus those who joined them, organized a kind of community with its own charter, requirements and not for everyone clear goals.

      Comrade, that this strongly resembles the local underground wassat
    3. Evil Booth
      Evil Booth 25 December 2020 21: 47
      +1
      cooking if fried there. drinks
    4. Mykhalych
      Mykhalych 25 December 2020 23: 01
      +1
      Quote: solzh
      Some people, in social networks or on any website, related to the current employees of some departments, plus those who joined them, organized a kind of community with their own charter, requirements and not for everyone clear goals. Can you explain which article this organization falls under?
      The key here is for what purposes ... If criminal, then Article 210 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Organization of a criminal community (criminal organization) or participation in it (her)".
    5. Malyuta
      Malyuta 26 December 2020 07: 53
      +11
      Quote: solzh
      Can you explain which article this organization falls under?

      To be shot !!! yes good
  • Evil Booth
    Evil Booth 25 December 2020 21: 40
    -1
    oga oga) libel so libel. So the FSB will not only wonder why Vietnam died of 100 million from baronovirus 40 people in Japan 1500 in Russia 50 in the USA 000. Well, there is plus or minus 110%, but the order of numbers is quite the same. but also to fail and the meaning? request ... What is more, it is libel that the task of the FSB does not include the fight against the propaganda of all kinds of national Siberian relatives, favorite non-Russian goods, brand stories, etc. or hundreds and hundreds of sites telling why the mask is harmful from covid, although it is useful from the flu virus, or that a fine of 20,6,1 is illegal or that a flea / drunk / muzzleless passenger cannot be expelled from the vehicle with any number of mobility modules, or that the mask delays oxygen and co2 and at the same time allows viruses that are huge relative to gas molecules "like galaxies" or why the infectiousness of 1 virus is equal to the infectivity of millions of pieces on microparticles of saliva and other secretions of exhalation / conversation.

    even in there, when the kgda was not yet included in the ussr, why all of a sudden, all over the country, protests began to say hatim otdelitsa and aka Chechen-Ingush wars for the border post between villages in terms of the administrative border of the district of a rural settlement. what current does not enter, what does not enter soldier
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 25 December 2020 22: 32
      +2
      Quote: Evil Booth
      the administrative boundary of a rural settlement district. what current does not enter, what does not enter

      there are quite wealthy people who will arrange you for entry-exit and even for more plastic projections in 3D, and you are more accustomed to applause and the audience
      1. Evil Booth
        Evil Booth 26 December 2020 08: 38
        +1
        the corrupt girl of imperialism, like the entire socialist camp and others, for a whole century made out the entrance to the exit just like that. Or are you from the anti-vaccine who out of 10000 studies see 2 where the vaccines questioned with a sample of 1,5 mole rats?
  • Radiator
    Radiator 3 January 2021 04: 15
    -1
    Doesn't fall under libel view... And my opinion is simple and confident: the FSB is not the state security, but the guardian of the oligarchy and the bandit roof. And come back to the KGB - they will put the FSB at the wall first.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 25 December 2020 13: 33
    +2
    So they would have decided already, in the end

    So they decided long ago! To destroy, in any way, what prevents them from shurudizing us according to their wishes.
    Nothing new in general.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 25 December 2020 23: 20
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      So they decided long ago! To destroy, in any way, what prevents them from shurudizing us according to their wishes.
      Nothing new in general.

      Everything is much worse, Kamrad, GSh-30 is being assembled on their knees, those who just yesterday inserted window frames. And from the heads of "production" his own 15 surnames sound, provided that by the 91st year he was a s / wan Komsomol organizer of the locksmith section of the shop
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 December 2020 00: 10
        0
        now you no longer understand what is good, but how to explain what is bad ... at least for those who were brought up then, the definitions of bad / good were clear, clear to everyone, the same.
        You can't go back, but you don't want to adapt to now, it's the opposite of nature, many of the former.
        So we hang out, neither here nor there.
  • Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 13: 49
    +1
    The FSB service is just a tool for politicians ... I respect the federals ... as a rule, people with great abilities and rather smart ones work there (this does not apply to FSB cadets on Gelendvagen smile ) ... some of the operations of the FSB officers in relation to thugs of various stripes are simply amazing ... I wish them success in their work and more professionalism in their business.
    1. bk316
      bk316 25 December 2020 14: 08
      +4
      this does not apply to FSB cadets on Gelendvagens

      Here everything is as always and everywhere - the family has its black sheep and the closer to power and money, the more freaks.
      Therefore, you need to clean it constantly ...
      1. WIKI
        WIKI 25 December 2020 21: 36
        -1
        Quote: bk316
        Therefore, you need to clean it constantly ...

        You don't need to clean anything. It is enough for the prosecutor's office to respond in a timely manner to violation of the law, regardless of the position and person.
        1. bk316
          bk316 25 December 2020 23: 28
          +2
          It is enough for the prosecutor's office to respond in a timely manner to violation of the law, regardless of the position and person.

          Wrong! The work on identifying violators and criminals in the authorities should be proactive. The prosecutor's office can act when the violation of the crime has already been committed.
          1. WIKI
            WIKI 26 December 2020 23: 02
            0
            Only a court can declare that a crime has been committed. And the prosecutor's office must examine the evidence for the prosecution.
  • Aleks2000
    Aleks2000 25 December 2020 14: 48
    -1
    That the video is good .. That the anonymous author immediately turns to the blogger is an order
    IMHO
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 25 December 2020 16: 15
    +1
    Quote: rocket757
    What is wrong with the punishment for libel?
    To answer for your "market", it's time to learn.

    Well, at least you say so, this criminal vocabulary sounds from all holes.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 25 December 2020 16: 24
    +2
    The laws have already been adopted, but I will still express my opinion. Any law that is associated with increased responsibility for any spoken word should be adopted in conjunction with laws restricting the actions of officials. A person, waking up, does not go to the Internet. Feel the heat of the battery, wash or take a shower. And if something is wrong in this chain, everything is rewarded upward with incredible force. Of course, you have to answer for your words. First for what you say, then for what you listen to and read. Hopefully, there will be no continuation.
    1. Evil Booth
      Evil Booth 25 December 2020 21: 49
      +1
      or a little more expressively) to take away the third pension from civil servants from those removed for theft, well, such as such a world experience, and if you don't like it, then you can offer to study the Chinese experience, they still steal there, but still shoot.
  • Esaul
    Esaul 25 December 2020 22: 07
    +1
    I have a question: why the incriminated authorities, having all the connections, information and capabilities of the special services, have not yet shown the people ANY documentary film that reliably refutes Navalny's investigation?
  • reader65
    reader65 26 December 2020 21: 19
    0
    The goals and objectives of the FSB are business protection. Not for free.
  • Olegi1
    Olegi1 27 December 2020 01: 51
    +2
    Come on, do not excuse yourself, continuous failures :)
    Skripal and the patient were poisoned with poor quality, it must be repeated;
    They interfered in the elections, appointed a new one, got caught

    Continuous dips)))
  • Konnick
    Konnick 27 December 2020 07: 03
    -1
    Quote: reader65
    The goals and objectives of the FSB are business protection. Not for free.

    Not only, but they do not disdain raider seizures ...