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"Certainly no worse than 1942 with its Battle of Stalingrad": French press reacts to the definition of 2020 in the US press

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Le Figaro, a major French publication, has an article in which columnist Eric Zemmour examines trends in the American press. In particular, they point to the publication of the Time magazine, in which A. Traore was named a symbol of freedom and democracy, who considers France a “racist country”. The French media "caught on" for this, expressing, to put it mildly, dissatisfaction with the choice of the American magazine.


Also in "Le Figaro" material is considered in the same American magazine, where 2020 is called "The worst year in the world stories».

French author Eric Zemmour notes that the year really turned out to be difficult, adding that calling 2020 "the worst in history" is a clear overkill of the American press.

In the French press:

This is a clear exaggeration. It is confusing. Worst year? Are you seriously? Worse than 1916 with the Battle of Verdun? ... Or worse than 1942 with the Battle of Stalingrad? Certainly not worse.

The French author also recalls that there were definitely worse years in history than 2020, including 1871, when Parisians ate rats and anything relatively edible due to the Prussian siege.

Zemmur:

And these are just European examples. How many of them are there in the world ...

The author writes that the level of education in the United States and in the West as a whole has dropped dramatically:

We somehow did not believe in it. Many French journalists have always admired the American press. But when a new generation came to work there, which is fixated on the issues of decolonialism, feminism, racism and ecology, then there was no room for elementary knowledge of history. They do not know what war is, and if they write something about it, then everything again rests on the notorious political correctness.

The author writes that with this approach, it is not surprising to cultivate fear, "dig at the borders of the ditch, fence" with a mortality rate of less than a percent:

The world itself drives itself into the trap of fear. We are digging in the economy ourselves. We believe that we save people's lives, but in fact we sacrifice everything that is worth living for.

The author summarizes that all this is becoming characteristic of the West, which has turned into a kind of "crumbling Roman Empire."
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  1. nnm
    nnm 25 December 2020 06: 53
    +22
    characteristic of the West, which has turned into a kind of "crumbling Roman Empire."

    Great analogy!
    Now the author will simply be persecuted for daring to say that tolerance madness is the path to the destruction of countries and nations.
    But in essence - why, in general, should be guided by the fact that some publication in the United States will write, recognize, and voice. You might think that in reality they are some kind of moral, moral guideline. We must already move away from this admiration for the United States.
    1. Civil
      Civil 25 December 2020 07: 19
      -18%
      Oh, blacks are being hanged again in the USA) the damned West is rotting, soon your dollar is a kirdyk.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 25 December 2020 07: 26
        +14
        Quote: Civil
        Oh, again in the USA, blacks are hanged)

        no, they put the whites on one knee .... then they put them on the second and ... the lynching or what was his name of the murdered black man ???? The pendulum went in the opposite direction
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 25 December 2020 07: 45
          +5
          Quote: aybolyt678
          then put on the second

          They themselves become with pleasure
          1. Temples
            Temples 25 December 2020 08: 48
            +5
            American Journal for Americans.
            In 1942 in the USA everything was a bunch.
            And 1871 rats were eaten by the French, not the Americans.

            Accustomed to the fact that the Americans are the navel of the earth.
            And the Americans talk about themselves.

            And everyone should think about themselves, and not try on the American blanket.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich 25 December 2020 10: 22
              +2
              Quote: Temples
              American Journal for Americans.
              In 1942 in the USA everything was a bunch.
              And 1871 rats were eaten by the French, not the Americans.

              For all the period of "Spanish flu" was terrible - a hundred years ago, the assessments are different, 50-100 million victims, but in any case, this is one of the most terrible events in the history of mankind.

              It is strange that in the context of the covid 2020, the French did not remember her ...
              1. krot
                krot 25 December 2020 11: 31
                +5
                Certainly no worse than 1942 with its Battle of Stalingrad

                What do they know about the Battle of Stalingrad .. Do they think there is a war now?
                1. dedBoroded
                  dedBoroded 26 December 2020 11: 07
                  +2
                  They remember that the first European Union broke his neck there.
              2. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 25 December 2020 19: 42
                +2
                Quote: Olgovich
                It is strange that in the context of the covid 2020, the French did not remember her.

                Nothing strange. Remember this, the French, you would have to compare mortality, but it is negligible in comparison. It should be borne in mind that the density of the human population was several times lower. Covid, he's in their heads.
                1. Goto
                  Goto 26 December 2020 12: 33
                  +1
                  Not in the heads of covid
                  1. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 27 December 2020 14: 00
                    0
                    Quote: Goto
                    Not in the heads of covid

                    And where? the human coronavirus has always been, and people died from it ...
              3. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 26 December 2020 18: 37
                +1
                Quote: Olgovich
                It is strange that in the context of the covid 2020, the French did not remember her ...

                No wonder. For all the worst thing in the West is what happened to them. But the Americans far surpassed everyone: for them always the worst and the best for the world is what happens with them.
        2. Machito
          Machito 25 December 2020 09: 12
          +7
          It looks like the French, following the Armenians and the Ukrainians, began to guess about something. Even stupid Turks have long understood everything. By the way, I have a Turkish friend. He is fluent in Russian. Understands our humor. For ten years he was married to a Russian. He lived in Moscow. Better than any Armenian or Azeri. But I like Chechens better. I served with them in the army. They are reliable fighting friends. With them I will go to reconnaissance, even to the devil in the mouth.
        3. Civil
          Civil 25 December 2020 09: 14
          -4
          Why do you sympathize with white people so much? Are you an official or a businessman? How did the white people get their way in our country? Can you support American enemies?
        4. PSih2097
          PSih2097 25 December 2020 18: 07
          +1
          Quote: aybolyt678
          lynching or whatever the murdered negro was called

          The Lynch law is the murder of a person suspected of a crime or violation of public customs, without trial or investigation, usually by a street crowd, usually by hanging.

          there are a couple - three theories by the name of this action, not only blacks were lynched, but everyone - both white and Latinos with blacks and narrow-eyed, the main reasons - cattle theft, violence against a white woman, bank / stagecoach robbery ... as an example, I advise to see a movie:
      2. nnm
        nnm 25 December 2020 07: 40
        +3
        Forgive me, colleague, but I do not quite understand what my words are addressed to your sarcasm ...
        1. Civil
          Civil 25 December 2020 09: 11
          -1
          Quote: nnm
          Forgive me, colleague, but I do not quite understand what my words are addressed to your sarcasm ...

          Rather, in support, as long as you can tell what is there in the United States.
          1. nnm
            nnm 25 December 2020 11: 07
            +2
            Indeed, let's, in general, forget about what is happening in the most powerful country in the world, which considers us an enemy state and is trying in every possible way to crush us. Let's pretend that nothing is happening at all. Head in the sand - and no problem.
            1. Civil
              Civil 25 December 2020 12: 14
              -3
              Quote: nnm
              Indeed, let's, in general, forget about what is happening in the most powerful country in the world, which considers us an enemy state and is trying in every possible way to crush us. Let's pretend that nothing is happening at all. Head in the sand - and no problem.

              And let's not blame the USA on all the problems from the entrances (front doors) soaked by Obama to the fall of the ruble. Otherwise, the State Department again raised food prices in Russia.
              1. nnm
                nnm 25 December 2020 12: 17
                +3
                And let's, better, you read the article itself? It has French !!!! the journalist talks about the US media space !!!!
                Attention, the question .... it would seem, where does Russia ?! But you certainly know that between the lines there are definitely hidden problems of the modern regime in the Russian Federation!
                Are there not enough topics for discussing internal problems? Yes, there are a lot of them on the site! Why do you climb with the desire to sprinkle ashes on your head on topics that, well, do not correspond to your given desire?
                1. Civil
                  Civil 25 December 2020 12: 22
                  -2
                  Quote: nnm
                  And let's, better, you read the article itself? It has French !!!! the journalist talks about the US media space !!!!

                  Let's count how many articles about the United States are posted a day and how bad everything is there. And why is the enemy of the United States.
                  1. nnm
                    nnm 25 December 2020 12: 25
                    +2
                    Well, who's stopping you - count. Do you think that on a site with a military theme, it is not worth discussing the strongest enemy?
                    1. Civil
                      Civil 26 December 2020 07: 23
                      -1
                      Quote: nnm
                      Well, who's stopping you - count. Do you think that on a site with a military theme, it is not worth discussing the strongest enemy?

                      Certainly worth it, but not on the plane "The West is rotten, the dollar is kirdyk, hurray gentlemen"
                      1. nnm
                        nnm 26 December 2020 08: 34
                        -1
                        So address your complaints to a French journalist ....
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 25 December 2020 07: 43
      -1
      Quote: nnm
      We must already move away from this admiration for the United States.

      Let's start with the fact that it was not worth approaching
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 25 December 2020 10: 09
        +2
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Let's start with the fact that it was not worth approaching

        Sergei, why was the word worth writing with the capital O, it was not worth it, it was worth it, you can understand, but not in the topic like that, maybe you shouldn't want to write but were careful and changed your mind? Schaub do not jinx it! wassat
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 25 December 2020 12: 55
          -1
          Quote: Dym71
          Sergey, why was the word worth writing with a capital O,

          I do not know laughing
  2. Land defence
    Land defence 25 December 2020 06: 55
    +8
    The author writes that with this approach, it is not surprising to cultivate fear, “dig at the borders of the ditch, fence off” with a mortality rate of less than a percent

    This is what it is designed for. "Divide and Conquer" ©
  3. NDR-791
    NDR-791 25 December 2020 06: 55
    +8
    Worse than 1916 with the Battle of Verdun? ... Or worse than 1942 with the Battle of Stalingrad? Certainly not worse. The French author also recalls that there were definitely years worse in history than 2020, including 1871, when Parisians, due to the Prussian siege, ate rats and everything that came to hand
    Americans do not recognize such examples. They didn't have it. And the worst thing they had, they don't want to remember in principle, and the lack of a burger or toilet paper is already a disaster
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 25 December 2020 07: 13
      +8
      Quote: NDR-791
      Americans do not recognize such examples. They didn't have it.

      They had Depression, but who will remember it, naturally, the level sank completely!
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 25 December 2020 07: 47
      0
      Quote: NDR-791
      including 1871, when the Parisians ate rats and everything that came to hand because of the Prussian siege

      Well, he didn't remember Leningrad with the siege in 872 days
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 25 December 2020 07: 52
        +2
        Well, he didn't remember Leningrad with the siege in 872 days
        Because they themselves have a stigma in the gun ...
        "There were tens of thousands of French volunteers (no less than 80 thousand Frenchmen passed through the SS alone), and as a result, French citizens made up the largest Western European people in terms of numbers, who fought on the side of Nazi Germany in World War II."
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 25 December 2020 07: 57
          -2
          Quote: NDR-791
          Because they themselves have a stigma in the gun ..

          I know. It's just too lazy to write a lot in the morning)
      2. Evil543
        Evil543 25 December 2020 07: 55
        +2
        So I remembered about Stalingrad, it's already good.
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 25 December 2020 07: 59
          -3
          Quote: Evil543
          So I remembered about Stalingrad, it's already good.

          Well yes. Fish without fish
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 25 December 2020 08: 29
      0
      We just forgot the Great Depression. But even a hundred years have not passed and there were no world wars at that time, and the country barely rose from its knees!
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 25 December 2020 09: 00
        +3
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        We just forgot the Great Depression. But even a hundred years have not passed and there were no world wars at that time, and the country barely rose from its knees!

        and about the famine in the United States "forgotten". But you can really attribute the United States to the Holodomor, when food was destroyed, so long as prices did not fall, and all this in front of hungry people.
    4. Greenwood
      Greenwood 25 December 2020 08: 47
      +3
      Quote: NDR-791
      Americans do not recognize such examples. They didn't have it.
      They had the Great Depression, when millions of people were unemployed and starved for months. They had a bloody Civil War of 1861-1865 and wars of independence with the British. And for many of their veterans, the horrors of the Vietnamese jungle are much more deeply ingrained in their memory than sitting at home and closed borders in 2020. I'm not talking about 11/1992, Pearl Harbor, the Cuban missile crisis and the XNUMX pogroms.
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 25 December 2020 08: 59
        -2
        ... is considered material in the same American magazine, where 2020 is called the "Worst Year in World History" (Time).
        Remind them, otherwise their memory is short. We remember everything that you wrote, because we did not take the exam.
  4. Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 25 December 2020 07: 22
    +5
    May Great Depression 2.0 break out in the United States. hi
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 25 December 2020 07: 31
      +4
      Quote: Mykhalych
      May Great Depression 2.0 break out in the USA

      The depression period in the United States coincided with the explosive, inexplicable growth of the military industry in Germany, and it also cost us dearly. So if they feel bad, it does not mean that we will be good. I want independence winked
  5. Ros 56
    Ros 56 25 December 2020 07: 23
    +8
    Oddly enough it sounds, but the newspaper Pravda wrote the truth about the decaying west. It's just that political decay is a more time-consuming process than, say, the decay of food. And we, hurry-ups, ditched the USSR without waiting. We will have a lesson for centuries to come. Hence the conclusion that it is necessary to learn and to promote in power structures by business qualities, and not devoted fools.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 25 December 2020 09: 21
      +1
      Quote: Ros 56
      Hence the conclusion that it is necessary to study and to promote in power structures by business qualities, and not devoted fools.

      the most interesting thing here is the creation of a mechanism for promotion and selection winked They are hostile to the media and they can create any impression smile
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 25 December 2020 19: 51
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      The truth wrote the truth about the decaying west.

      about capitalism they wrote the truth, they lied about the fact that the Party is leading us to communism. laughing
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 25 December 2020 19: 57
        +1
        Who knows how to know. They strove for this, but no one is given to see the future. All our haste, together with a lack of information and intelligence. hi
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 25 December 2020 21: 12
          0
          Quote: Ros 56
          Who knows how to know. They strove for this, but no one is given to see the future.

          the newspaper Pravda is a stronghold of dogmatism. And the future can be calculated. If we follow the path of Capitalism, we will be strangled simply because when the main thing is money, the one who has more money wins.
  6. igordok
    igordok 25 December 2020 07: 29
    +4
    Or worse than 1942 with the Battle of Stalingrad?

    A strange analogy. 1942 in Stalingrad became a nightmare for the Nazis, the rest of the world perceived 1942 as a harbinger of poped, i.e. with joy. Those. they put themselves on a par with Nazi Germany.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin 25 December 2020 07: 38
      +7
      Quote: igordok
      A strange analogy. 1942 in Stalingrad became a nightmare for the Nazis, the rest of the world perceived 1942 as a harbinger of poped, i.e. with joy.

      The year 1942 in the world was hardly a harbinger of victories over the Nazis, because the final victory in Stalingrad came in 1943. And the French journalist certainly does not place himself on any "same board with the Nazis". He wrote about several examples of years that in the world, including Russia (USSR) and France, were definitely worse than 2020.
    2. Mykhalych
      Mykhalych 25 December 2020 07: 41
      +2
      Quote: igordok
      Those. they put themselves on a par with Nazi Germany.

      Indeed, only the United States and Ukraine did not vote in the UN for a resolution against the glorification of Nazism.
      1. Volodin
        Volodin 25 December 2020 08: 23
        -1
        Quote: Mykhalych
        Indeed, only the United States and Ukraine did not vote in the UN for a resolution against the glorification of Nazism.

        It remains only to find out what the French journalist has to do with it, if the United States and Ukraine voted against the resolution ...
        1. Mykhalych
          Mykhalych 25 December 2020 08: 51
          -1
          Quote: Volodin
          It remains only to find out what the French journalist has to do with it, if the United States and Ukraine voted against the resolution ...

          So after all, I tried to conduct a dialogue, and not draw a parallel.
          Quote: igordok
          Those. they put themselves on a par with Nazi Germany.
          Answer:
          Indeed, only the United States and Ukraine did not vote in the UN for a resolution against the glorification of Nazism. hi
          1. Volodin
            Volodin 25 December 2020 09: 01
            -1
            The fact of the matter is that the reader is not writing about the "USA with Ukraine", but about the publication in a French newspaper, and you are talking about the United States with Ukraine.
            1. Mykhalych
              Mykhalych 25 December 2020 09: 31
              -1
              igordok (Igor)
              Today, 07: 29
              +3
              Or worse than 1942 with the Battle of Stalingrad?

              A strange analogy. 1942 in Stalingrad became a nightmare for the Nazis, the rest of the world perceived 1942 as a harbinger of poped, i.e. with joy. Those. they put themselves on a par with Nazi Germany.
              My answer: Indeed, only the United States and Ukraine did not vote in the UN for a resolution against the glorification of Nazism. And Ukraine is only in context. hi
    3. sergo1914
      sergo1914 25 December 2020 08: 34
      +2
      Quote: igordok
      Those. they put themselves on a par with Nazi Germany.


      On Stalingrad, Italians and Romanians may disagree. Although, who counted them there? That ours, that the Germans somehow ignore them.
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 December 2020 07: 39
    +3
    The idea of ​​a global peace falls through the laughter of the coronavirus. We consider ourselves the kings of nature, but we are just a breeding ground for the virus ... The senseless wandering around the world under the guise of tourism has stopped by itself. However, the product of the idea of ​​globalism - tolerance, political correctness in their worst manifestations - will also go there ... into the waste of civilization ...
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 25 December 2020 08: 14
      +2
      The senseless wandering around the world has not stopped, they are scattered with vaccines and trampled on again. At home, it is necessary to work diligently on the devastation, but there civilization has already been established, for everything ready-made for loafers and crooks, and it is much easier for weaklings to settle in. Only the Iron Curtain from the Western world will stop.
    2. Boris55
      Boris55 25 December 2020 08: 45
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      However, the creation of the idea of ​​globalism - ... will go there ...

      Globalization, as the most effective way of managing (distribution of labor), is not going anywhere - this is a natural course of things. Who will lead the globalization process - this question is still open. Globalization of the World according to the Western - has failed. Globalization in Russian has not yet begun.

  8. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 25 December 2020 07: 43
    +4
    what mature thoughts for a Western journalist ... if he was allowed to publish this (and there is no freedom of speech there) ... then it's time to point your cookies towards the Ocean) and those who are there for ...
    and the stupidity of Americans as a result of education and the policy being pursued is more and more obvious from the statements of officials of the government (the State Department, senators and other dogs)
  9. Vasiliev S.
    Vasiliev S. 25 December 2020 08: 01
    -3
    News about nothing?
    What do we care about the showdown between the foreign press?
    Until this vile slavish servility towards foreigners disappears, Russia will not become a normal country.
  10. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 25 December 2020 08: 27
    +2
    Have you wondered why the leaders of the Western world in recent decades look ... dull? There are two feelings at once. At first you think that the speaker is a mentally retarded person, but I very much doubt that at the level where real politics is going, and not in public, they talk at this level. It is unlikely that Merkel, when talking on the phone with Putin, howls about the poisoning of Navalny - the two of them are very clear that this is just an excuse from above to stop the Nord Stream, so they are discussing what they will do with the gas pipeline and how to build it in this situation. ... When you sit on a train and look at the next train, at first it is not clear whether yours has started or the next one. It's the same with the cuckoo. laughing
  11. kit88
    kit88 25 December 2020 08: 33
    +8
    After reading the article and this Times, how not to remember Zadornov.
    WELL, STUPID !!!
  12. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 25 December 2020 08: 45
    0
    The world itself drives itself into the trap of fear. We are digging in the economy ourselves.

    Correct remark. Deliberately created "Fear Trap", and it is beneficial to someone.
  13. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 25 December 2020 08: 45
    0
    The Battle of Stalingrad had a bad start and a wonderful ending for the Soviet people. What period is the author talking about, with what does he compare? It would be better to remember how Napoleon skedaddle from Russia losing carts.
  14. HAM
    HAM 25 December 2020 08: 55
    0
    As always, Americans think "globally", if for the states the year was frankly lousy, then they believe that "the whole world is with them" .... well, the negroes were fooling around, well, Trump was playing around a little, the "crown" was mowing a little ... . and already "the worst year in history" ..... hysterics ...
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 December 2020 09: 00
    +1
    the level of education in the United States and in the West as a whole has fallen sharply
    It's hard to disagree. If the American establishment often openly shows its ignorance of elementary things (not only in geography) and memory gaps in history, then what can we say about ordinary Americans, especially those who today suddenly, by the blackness of their skin, imagine themselves to be the "masters" of the country.
  16. sergo1914
    sergo1914 25 December 2020 09: 05
    -1
    I'll give you a version.
    The French are Catholics, and the Americans are mostly Protestants. On the eve of their Christmas, we decided to remind the Lutherans of ideological differences of a church nature ... Here is a Christmas present for you! Bad people.
    PS No. Haven't had a drink today.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 25 December 2020 11: 13
      -2
      Quote: sergo1914
      The French are Catholics, and the Americans are mostly Protestants. On the eve of their Christmas, we decided to remind the Lutherans of the ideological differences of the church nature ... Here is a Christmas present for you!

      Both Catholics and Protestants have Christmas on December 25th. It is only the Orthodox who are lagging behind.
  17. cniza
    cniza 25 December 2020 09: 10
    +1
    But when a new generation came to work there, which is fixated on the issues of decolonialism, feminism, racism and ecology, then there was no room for elementary knowledge of history.


    And not only stories ...
  18. rocket757
    rocket757 25 December 2020 09: 11
    0
    So it can not bang weakly, but while we live, we fight the infection.
  19. APASUS
    APASUS 25 December 2020 09: 26
    0
    I would call it an erroneous opinion about the fall of education from the United States. When Gorbachev and Yeltsin brought the USSR to the Americans on a silver platter, they made us a colony. And why study their colony, many directions and institutions were simply closed, they are not interested in us. Now they are just face a shortage of knowledgeable people and grab any charlatan who claims to be a specialist in Russia.
  20. Revolver
    Revolver 25 December 2020 11: 11
    -1
    It depends. For Russia, for example, 1600 was the worst. Then a volcano erupted in Peru with a very indecent and politically incorrect sounding in Russian name Huaynaputina. The release of ash into the atmosphere was so strong that it eclipsed the sun and lowered the temperature globally. Snow fell on Trinity in Moscow. Due to the climatic shift, for 3 years in a row there was a crop failure, massive famine, in some places it reached cannibalism.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_famine_of_1601–03
    This launched the Troubles, as a result of which the population of Russia decreased by 2/3. Not a single war, whether earlier or later, not even the Tatar invasion, or revolutions with a civil war, destroyed the population as effectively.
  21. TAMBU
    TAMBU 25 December 2020 12: 24
    0
    The world itself drives itself into the trap of fear. We are digging in the economy ourselves. We believe that we save people's lives, but in fact we sacrifice everything that is worth living for.

    Welcome to the world of capitalism ...
  22. vladcub
    vladcub 25 December 2020 12: 53
    +3
    Political correctness can go far, but get out is a problem
  23. iouris
    iouris 25 December 2020 15: 32
    0
    The battle of Stalingrad in terms of consequences is put on a par with the coronavirus attack on Europe. But there was also the Battle of Kursk, Operation Bagration (Russian commander), the Battle of Berlin ...
  24. Sly Fox_2
    Sly Fox_2 31 December 2020 09: 38
    0
    More precisely, you will not say!