Transfer of three nuclear submarines to the Russian Navy postponed to next year

Naval Transmission the fleet (Navy) of Russia of three nuclear submarines has been postponed until next year for a number of reasons beyond the control of Sevmash, which built the nuclear submarine. This was reported by TASS with reference to a source in the Russian defense industry.

According to the source of the news agency, the transfer of the carrier of nuclear underwater drones Poseidon to the submarine Belgorod and two submarines of the Yasen-M project, Kazan and Novosibirsk, has been postponed to 2021. It was previously assumed that they will become part of the fleet this year.

It was assumed that by the end of 2020 the Navy will receive a special-purpose nuclear submarine "Belgorod" of project 09852 - a carrier of nuclear underwater drones "Poseidon" and multipurpose nuclear submarines of project 885M "Yasen-M" - "Kazan" and "Novosibirsk". However, the deadlines have been postponed to next year.

- leads TASS source words.

There is no official confirmation of this information, but it was confirmed by another interlocutor of the publication in the shipbuilding industry. According to him, the reason for the transfer was a number of circumstances that did not depend on Sevmash. All three submarines did not pass the planned test programs on time.

The project 949A Antey multipurpose nuclear submarine Belgorod, specially converted for Poseidons and launched on April 23, 2019, was to enter the fleet by the end of this year, and in 2021 receive the first Poseidon. According to the plans of the Navy, this nuclear submarine will become an experienced carrier of autonomous unmanned underwater vehicles.

The lead multipurpose nuclear submarine "Kazan" of project 885M "Yasen-M" is undergoing the final stage of state tests, which was protracted due to the correction of deficiencies discovered during preliminary tests. It was planned that the submarine will become part of the herringbone fleet, but now, probably, the new date for the transfer of the submarine will be the first quarter of 2021, depending on the implementation of the test program.

The first serial nuclear submarine of project 885M Yasen-M K-573 Novosibirsk was launched on December 23, 2019. Almost nothing was reported on the progress of the Novosibirsk tests; according to the plans of the shipbuilders, announced this summer, the submarine was supposed to enter the fleet by the end of 2020.

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[Mavrikiy]

Transfer of three nuclear submarines to the Russian Navy postponed to next year

Zrada, however.

[2 Level Advisor]

It's a pity, I hoped for Belgorod and Kazan, Novosibirsk, it was clear that they would not be in time.
Damn, when Kazan is already finished, everyone will stand Yasen-M until it is brought to mind, and they are very much needed in the Navy already .. especially at the Pacific Fleet ..

[Pereira]

In a hurry? Are you preparing for something?

[2 Level Advisor]

I mean, hurry up? it's not that we don't have time - we were late with the saturation of the Navy and the replacement of the old MAPLs - 885m project ..
prepare? Well, yes .. in a sense, I'm getting ready - to congratulate a relative in one of the crews of the new boats - that the ship has waited, and I myself will be happy to strengthen the fleet But of course, it's better to eliminate the shortcomings now.

[Kara]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

it's not that we don't have time - we were late with the saturation of the Navy

I agree, the next shift is unpleasant. But ... Apparently, the boat really did not reach the required characteristics, since the transfer to the fleet was shifted several times.

[smart ass]

It is better to postpone this time to take anyhow for show

[Seal]

Exactly. Better than in the USSR, when for the delivery of submarines, the factories included in the delivery team, as they would now say, "girls with reduced social responsibility." To make the change go better.

[1976AG]

Quote: Pereira

In a hurry? Are you preparing for something?

And what, there is nothing to prepare for? And NATO completely demonstrates peacefulness, and we have no serious enemies either

[Pereira]

Just imagine, in 2012 we didn't have time. We were very worried about this. Made in 2013. Late somewhere?
Is there a war in January 2021?
Better to delay it, but do it well.

[Papazen]

Admission of a ship to the fleet is only the beginning of work on bringing the crew to line-up readiness. To achieve good fusion of the crew, more than one year and more than one combat service is needed. And the project is new, it is necessary to master the new capabilities of the ship, to develop new tactical techniques, taking into account the new performance characteristics.
I would not be surprised if I learned that Severodvinsk is still being developed. First of all, the tactics of use. So time matters.

[Pereira]

You understand, but many here threw a tantrum.

[bayard]

I did not notice tantrums, but the fact that both episodes (Ash and Borei) were supposed to be completed by the end of 2020 fact. The old ones have not been repaired, the new ones have not been built.
And if tomorrow is a war?
Neither in 1914 nor in 1941 war was expected either ... but it came.
She always comes when you are not ready.

[Pereira]

If tomorrow is a war, then these submarines will not be in time for it. And if the day after tomorrow, the delay is not critical. I saw hysteria in the number of minuses.
I know not by hearsay how planning is done at enterprises. The big boss said - to plan for the new year, the middle boss planned, the junior boss saluted, and thought to himself - as we really can, we will do it, and then I'll get rid of it.

[bayard]

Least of all, I would like that such equipment was handed over "under the Christmas tree". Better when ready. Another thing is that the terms of all programs have failed, and partly many programs in terms of achieving the specified characteristics. Here is the quality of planning, and work in cooperation, and the rhythm of financing, and the responsibility of managers.
Leaders of all levels.
Why, when launching into series two types of nuclear submarines with a huge coefficient of novelty, did they not take care of repairing and maintaining the readiness of the existing submarines?
And now they are practically left without them.
I'm not talking about torpedo armament, here you can't say better than Klimov.
And what is the result?
Almost complete lack of results.
But 2020 is coming to an end - the deadline for the completion of weapons programs for this period, and in terms of shipbuilding programs we have a complete failure in almost all.
RTOs are not counted - they were not originally in that program.

[Deck]

To paraphrase the president: they would like to build - they would build!

[Lexus]

"There," along the way, "old man Parkinson" gives out pearls.

[K-612-O]

This is to Rashkin with Great Zyu, there is insanity and dementia and just schizophrenia

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Pereira

In a hurry? Are you preparing for something?

1. Very much.
2. I prepare myself like any decent person who loves the Motherland and his children.

[Pereira]

Do you think there will be something in the spring?

[Boris Chernikov]

well, they will hand it over in February .. what to do if this form of GI

[955535]

Yeah, just by that moment the ice will rise almost throughout the White Sea.

[955535]

With “Belgorod” everything was clear at the beginning of the year, one could only hope for the townsfolk. With "Kazan" it was more and more difficult, but prudence prevailed over the attempt of the plant and the designer to shove the imperfection of the fleet.

[Doccor18]

Although .. maybe it’s better to bring it to 100% readiness before being accepted into the Navy and raising the flag than it will be for years after that ...

[Mountain shooter]

Well, we did not have time this year. They will hand over in the first quarter ... It is unpleasant, but not fatal ...

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Unpleasant, but not fatal ...

It's unpleasant when the one misses the reference communication session ...
It is deadly when it is not announced on the air for a couple of days ...
On this topic.
Unfortunately, we do not know: - what is the essence of zatorch? If something with minced meat is not up to standard, this is one thing. And if the fields are out for a walk - that's different! But Seva says that there are no complaints about him (the buttons are sewn on tightly: you will tear off the horseradish!) So the mince is expired. And worst of all, if this is innovation, there is no experience, you have to poke around with the method of "scientific poke" ... But for me the worst of all is the fields and ears ... well, and of course the brains.
Damn, I'm going to drop a 100 grams of sedative ...

[Kara]

Do not worry. Long work on fine-tuning suggests that they did not give up on the jambs. It would be worse if the Fleet accepted it without looking.

[Boris Chernikov]

rather, the question is in the order of the GI ... since after the tests the boat must return, be checked and further tested ... today is the 25th, there are 3 days of workers left ... I think it is corny that they did not meet the deadlines for passing the last tests + preparation for the transfer, therefore do not sweat

[Borik]

Three submarines are a good addition to the fleet. If only all the announced submarines will be handed over precisely during 2021 and they do not find a reason for a shift next year.

[kit88]

It’s better to let them postpone and do everything right, than with imperfections on time.

[tralflot1832]

For Belgorod, there are no Poseidons either, but about the rest, it's good that they found a "goat" now, and not later on alert duty, at a depth of 400 meters. Do not drive under the "Christmas tree"; human lives are at stake!

[Ross xnumx]

About V.I. Lenin wrote:

It should be taken as a rule: better with a smaller number, but higher quality. We need to make it a rule: it is better in two years or even three years than in a hurry, without any hope of getting solid human material.

It seems to me that this rule applies in our case as well. If you hurry, you will make people laugh.

By the way, one more comment from him:

We must reduce our state apparatus to maximum economy. We must expel from it all traces of excesses, of which there are so many left from tsarist Russia, from its bureaucratic-capitalist apparatus.

[Escobar]

According to plans for updating the fleet, EIGHT submarines of project 2020 / m were supposed to be handed over by the end of 885. As a result, only one, and the one with flaws and to the heap, laid in 1997. Curtain.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

In such questions, the race is not needed. Calmly, efficiently and wisely. It is not necessary to risk the lives of the crew and the ship for the sake of a "cheerful report".

[Ros 56]

Better late than never. And one more thing: hurry up, make people laugh. So the lads have a little patience, they waited longer.

[antivirus]

Better late than never.

- everything was covered ...................... with a soft handmade carpet ..

[Bez 310]

And what is characteristic - no one is to blame, it itself ...
"This is some kind of shame!"

[lucul]

And what is characteristic - no one is to blame, it itself ...

Sanctions, no? )))

[nikolas 83]

I understand Ash-tree Novosibirsk. But Kazan cannot pass for 3 years. This is already in any gate. Why cover Boreys? Only promises.

[vadivm59]

the Soviet practice of putting under the "Christmas tree" has begun again? hotsa grab the dough in the form of premium? or some trick on the chest, right?

[Tests]

Interestingly, and when the new commander of the White Sea naval base, the commander of the Northern Fleet introduced, no one knew that with the new boats not everything is brilliant? And when Mr. Krivoruchko, the other day, in Severodvinsk conducted a debriefing, no one at USC knew about the blockage? And when the covid hospital was deployed urgently in May, only because the "Prince Vladimir" had to be handed over to the fleet by June 12, 2020 (specialists brought the infection from St. did you not calculate that the Central Medical Unit No. 58 of the FMBA of the Russian Federation is not ready for covid, and this, of course, will affect the timing of the delivery of ships to the fleet? Only our GMO in Severodvinsk thought of a pine forest on the island of Yagry from people to close in June and to expose police posts, although in November-December 2020 there were many more cases and deaths from covid in the Arkhangelsk region than in June ... Since Soviet times ... it is known that 2-3 times more people go to the seas on order than the regular crew in combat service, representatives from all over the Union, plus change people from ships right in the White Sea ... Well, TASS is annealing.

[tinkle]

This is how you presented this situation, whether the coronavirus is to blame for everything. And how did the TsMSCh-58 and Yagrinsky Bor affect the state tests?

[Grits]

Quote: Tests

Only our GMO in Severodvinsk thought of a pine forest on the island of Yagry from people to close it in June and put up police posts

And what was the point of this closure? After all, there is no one besides air defense personnel, mushroom pickers and fishermen ...

[andr327]

Each problem, delays, difficulties should have a full name.
Then we will fulfill it on time, we will eliminate the shortcomings.
and now the worst thing is that no one is responsible for anything. And the higher the salary, the more the degree of non-responsibility increases. Alas

[passerby]

Quote: andr327

Each problem, delays, difficulties should have a full name.

Only decimation of all collectives involved in the construction of boats, including relatives working up to the 10th generation, can correct the situation.

[Old26]

Quote: vadivm59

the Soviet practice of putting under the "Christmas tree" has begun again? hotsa grab the dough in the form of premium? or some trick on the chest, right?

Do you think that normal people working in design bureaus and at enterprises do not think about it? Not hoping for the same bonus for impact work? So it was, is and will certainly be. The year must be closed, otherwise the control and audit and financial bodies will start to skin. Therefore, they try to close it "under the herringbone". Would you refuse the prize yourself or would you like to "grab" it?

[Alien From]

It's good that they are already built! Hurry slowly!

[Tests]

zvyaga (sergey), dear, did you read the first two sentences in my message? And the last one?
I also wrote, for many visitors of the "VO", about the delivery of the new nuclear submarine is not at all "under the Christmas tree", though for the holiday date, although it was carried a couple of times. The magpies on the tail brought that the submariners of the Northern Fleet were ready to take the "Prince" into the fleet by the Victory Day, maybe the white-sides were cracking in vain ... The Central Medical Department No. 58 of the FMBA of the Russian Federation serves the workers of the GRCAS enterprises and the pensioners of these enterprises. It is the workers of SEVMASH and "Arktika" that make up the majority of the civilian crew that goes to sea for trials on orders. The head physician of the Central Medical Unit # 58 for failures in the work on Covid-19 was dismissed at the end of May or at the very beginning of June 2020 ... And 4 business travelers from St. Petersburg brought Covid to Severodvinsk, lived in a small hotel, went to the factory and to the military on the same bus, we went, of course, to shops, to canteens and cafes - they took the infection all over Severodvinsk ... The emotional stress that relieves in summer is cyclic physical activity: running, cycling, walking. In Severodvinsk, the most convenient place for this is a pine forest on the Yagry island. Swimming in the Belomorets swimming pool is also great, but the director of Zvezdochka gave the command to welcome the Indians at any time. If the family of an Indian naval officer enters the pool, the smell of their oils kicks me out of the pool right away ... How much the covid influenced the postponement of the delivery of the nuclear submarine and "Admiral Nakhimov" is not for me to decide, I have not worked as an Arkhangelsk prosecutor for a day I am currently not working to supervise the implementation of laws at high security facilities in the Arkhangelsk Region. It is for the prosecutor to decide from whom, from the heads of the enterprises of the GRCAS, "Negligence" is criminally punishable.

[CastroRuiz]

Nevidat premii kogda pod yolku nesdali. :)

[maxim k.]

The liberal media are already worn out with joy - the commissioning of the nuclear submarine is being debugged for as long as 3-6 months.