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In Ukraine, regional troops can be created

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On December 29, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy will present to the Verkhovna Rada a bill on the issue of territorial defense. A little earlier a group of deputies submitted their bill on the same topic. There is a significant difference between the two documents.


The Ukrainian legislation provided for the presence of territorial defense troops earlier, but after the coup d'etat in 2014 and the outbreak of the civil war in Donbass, Ukrainian lawmakers thought about changing it.

The parliamentarians introduced the first draft of the new law back in 2015, then in 2017, but they were not adopted then. According to the adviser to the President of Ukraine Oleksandr Arestovich, the presidential bill began to be prepared a year ago, after Zelensky came to power.

The main "stumbling block" of the two projects is the issue of subordination of these armed formations. After all, if the deputy option is adopted, then in Ukraine regional troops can be created, which are financed by local administrations and subordinate to them, and not to the central leadership.

The head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Ruslan Khomchak proposes to subordinate the territorial defense to the command of the Ground Forces, as is customary in many European countries. The parliamentarians want to “simplify” the system and transfer these armed formations to the subordination of the local leadership, partially entrusting it with the responsibility to finance such units from their own budget.

The Zelensky administration considers this approach to be the first step towards the federalization of Ukraine and even separatism in the regions. After all, the presence of local "princelings" of their own "pocket" armed formations makes them less controllable. In principle, even today, many regional elites already have so-called "dobrobats" who are legitimized by Kiev and, at the same time, are actually the very same regional armed formations.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 24 December 2020 11: 09
    +2
    And you, friends, do not sit down ... - the bear is still thicker!
    1. Machito
      Machito 24 December 2020 11: 14
      +8
      Regional troops are another step towards the disintegration of Ukraine.
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B 24 December 2020 11: 15
        +2
        Quote: Bearded
        Regional troops are another step towards the disintegration of Ukraine.

        I agree.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 December 2020 11: 24
          +5
          Each prince has a gang!
          1. Tiksi-3
            Tiksi-3 24 December 2020 11: 36
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Each prince has a gang!

            so they already have .... their national battalions ..... it remains only to legitimize ... and they will disintegrate into many mini states. with mutual claims. shooting and Makhnovshchina
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 24 December 2020 12: 51
              +2
              Quote: Tiksi-3
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Each prince has a gang!

              so they already have .... their national battalions ..... it remains only to legitimize ... and they will disintegrate into many mini states. with mutual claims. shooting and Makhnovshchina

              After that, there will begin a bandit showdown with firing and dances with sabers. But just some 6 years ago it was quite a normal country request
          2. frruc
            frruc 24 December 2020 12: 03
            -1
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD8kZsRQOY4
            Well, something like this. wassat
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 24 December 2020 11: 26
        -1
        Quote: Bearded
        Regional troops are another step towards the disintegration of Ukraine.

        Are you sorry for the hiba? Had the skin collegus to build a regiment of bude on this battalion of chi!

        They will sow and press yes

        And so ... A conversation to legally consolidate the oligarchic gangs that have long existed VNA.
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 24 December 2020 12: 11
          -1
          I notice that in your comments you increasingly use your native (Ukrainian) MOV, periodically prescribes the first line of the anthem of Ukraine.
          Commendable, commendable ... That's right, it will come in handy again ...
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  2. Boris Nevzorov
    Boris Nevzorov 24 December 2020 11: 10
    +3
    "Regional troops may be created in Ukraine"

    Which will be expected by the Debaltse and Ilovaisk boilers.
    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 24 December 2020 11: 22
      0
      Quote: Boris Nevzorov
      "Regional troops may be created in Ukraine"

      Yes, they can’t do anything in skakuasiya without the team of the owners. Once again, they can only lick from the owners without asking. Their Foreign Ministry, in a fit of sycophancy, announced that they would get rid of all Huawei equipment, for which US Deputy Secretary of State Keith Krach scratched their ears, calling it “a wise decision”. yes
      1. Boris Nevzorov
        Boris Nevzorov 24 December 2020 11: 39
        +4
        Russia has begun the transfer of Defense Ministry forces to Crimea.
        The Kiev junta convulsively clenched their flabby sphincters ...
        "The Russians have stolen our charm .." - the "great" Sumerians were coming out ... laughing )
  3. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 24 December 2020 11: 10
    0
    And the Terbats of the Natsiks is not it, was it? most likely, so that there is no situation that the military command is sent for the hell by the Nazi battalions ..
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 24 December 2020 11: 12
      -3
      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
      And the Terbats of the Natsiks is not it, was it?
      From the subject ...
      In principle, even today, many regional elites already have so-called "dobrobats" who are legitimized by Kiev and, at the same time, are actually the very same regional armed formations.
      1. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 24 December 2020 11: 17
        +1
        Not .. This is worse .. here already at the expense of the budget, and not the pockets of the elites .. plus, in all areas, and not only in those where "it will turn out" to collect those who wish, as now ..
        1. Victor_B
          Victor_B 24 December 2020 11: 21
          -1
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          collect those who wish, as it is now ..

          The Nazis are basically all Westerners.
          Well, there are locals too, but they rule there, of course roguly. They set the "weather" in such structures.
          1. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 24 December 2020 11: 24
            -2
            I agree, Victor Petrovich hi and I think this is another step towards the decentralization of Ukraine ..
        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 24 December 2020 11: 38
          0
          Quote: Level 2 Advisor
          here already at the expense of the budget, and not the pockets of the elites.

          So the budget and the pockets of the "elites" are not the same thing? Look at how it is disposed of.
          1. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 24 December 2020 11: 42
            +1
            Well, still not quite, although nearby ... it's one thing, pulling money from your personal account, another from the regional budget, on absolutely legal grounds, and you can also make a profit ...
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 24 December 2020 11: 50
              0
              hi
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              Well, still not quite, although nearby ... it's one thing, pulling money from your personal account, another from the regional budget, on absolutely legal grounds, and you can also make a profit ...

              "Growing above themselves" is another victory for the big bourgeoisie as a class. Now they will receive pocket troops and money for their maintenance, legally. And the budget can continue to be used for various tax preferences, for your loved ones, and other "necessary" things.
  4. prior
    prior 24 December 2020 11: 15
    +3
    Regional troops are exactly what Ukraine needs, this is exactly what will finally finish it off.
    Give "father Makhno" to every Ukrainian region!
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 24 December 2020 11: 34
      +9
      Quote: prior
      Give "father Makhno" to every Ukrainian region!

      Sometimes it just surprises with what accuracy history repeats itself recourse
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 24 December 2020 15: 43
        +2
        Laws of Nature, dear Vladimir hi, can not be canceled by any decrees and zeroing.
    2. Reviews
      Reviews 24 December 2020 12: 24
      +1
      Quote: prior
      Regional troops are exactly what Ukraine needs, this is exactly what will finally finish it off.
      Give "father Makhno" to every Ukrainian region!

      Uh-huh. The docfilm "The Wedding in Malinovka" and the "film based on real events"
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 24 December 2020 20: 27
        -4
        Quote: Avis
        huh huh. The docfilm "The Wedding in Malinovka" and the "film based on real events"
        That's right.

  5. Machete
    Machete 24 December 2020 11: 17
    -2
    Well, yes, feudal squads.
    There was such a thing in history.
    The feudal governors will quickly finish off the country.
  6. Alexga
    Alexga 24 December 2020 11: 28
    0
    Territorial defense and Regional troops are two big differences, as they say in Odessa.
  7. sergo1914
    sergo1914 24 December 2020 11: 29
    0
    Nobody will work. Everyone will be warriors. Sparta, straight, some kind.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 24 December 2020 12: 33
      -1
      Quote: sergo1914
      Nobody will work. Everyone will be warriors. Sparta, straight, some kind.

      Just the same! In Sparta, what discipline was, but here "you never dreamed of." In principle, the idea is great! "And what about? I drink myself, I walk and recruit lads myself." Each district has its own mini army! So after all, it will be possible to dissolve the APU! What an Ik-onomy! Let the regions contain those armies! Easy! The main thing is to adjust the moonshine, and at the grandmothers' houses they will feed themselves a snack! And "willing" will go. But there will be no one to work!
  8. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 24 December 2020 11: 33
    -3
    Skakuas try to imitate their masters in everything - in the USA there is a National Guard, financed and subordinate to its state. Only now, for the Sumerians, any peremogy ends with a grandiose horror - I am sure that if regional troops appear, it will finish off Ukraine.
  9. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 24 December 2020 11: 44
    -2
    I am for it! Each selu has his own army and his "Minister of Defense". I am sure that such a decision on the formation of "regional armies" will contribute to the early collapse of the Ukrainian reservation. Hai zheve Army of Kryzhopol, army of ZhmErinka!
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 December 2020 11: 59
    0
    The "stumbling block" of the two projects is the issue of subordination of these armed formations
    The further into the forest, the thicker the partisans (Fomenko). Few of them are various nats, dobrobats financed by oligarchs and special services, so someone also wanted territorial troops subordinate to the governor. Isn't that already Walking the field? Or they decided to adjust to their "allies" in the fight against Russia of the Balts. Those also have territorial troops (in case of war, becoming "partisans", DRG), which are now being intensively trained by American instructors.
  11. XXXIII
    XXXIII 24 December 2020 12: 22
    +1
    In Ukraine, regional troops can be created
    It is not necessary to feed and arm paper troops.))
  12. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 24 December 2020 12: 35
    -2
    well, forward to walk the field
  13. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 24 December 2020 12: 55
    -1
    And they didn't explain why to do this?

    What would at the same time reduce the actual APU?
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 24 December 2020 13: 11
    -2
    Ha, ha, we arrived ...
    Will be divided into estates, many, many Gulyaypole, with their Atamans at the head.
    It seems that everything goes to that.
  15. ZEMCH
    ZEMCH 24 December 2020 14: 29
    -3
    History repeats itself twice: the first time in the form of tragedy, the second in the form of farce
  16. APASUS
    APASUS 24 December 2020 14: 37
    -2
    Perhaps one more nail, the cover of the coffin of Ukraine!
    Now each governor will have his own power support, and I am sure that everything will be there, from tanks and aircraft to special forces assault units. Everything will depend only on the budget. Talking about laws in such a situation will not only be ridiculous, but dangerous!
  17. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 24 December 2020 16: 00
    -3
    The Urk Ruin turns into the Wild Field, where each field commander pulls the blanket over himself.

    Purely robin wedding