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In the USA: We tested a real hypersonic missile

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In the USA: We tested a real hypersonic missile

Together, the Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and the US Air Force tested a new type of weapon. Moreover, in the United States, such tests were called tests of a "real" hypersonic missile, transparently hinting that all foreign variants of such weaponscurrently existing in the United States are not considered "real"


The "real" hypersonic missile is reported by Air Force Magazine (AFM), citing informed sources.

There were no official reports on this matter, so it can be assumed that the tests of the new weapon did not become successful.

The launch of the hypersonic missile, developed by Lockheed Martin under the Hypersonic Air-breathing Weapon Concept (HAWC) program, was supposed to take place last week from the B-52 Stratofortress strategic bomber. The source claims that the launch failure was not due to design flaws, but due to "stupid mistakes."

I assure you, you would have heard about it if there was something to celebrate.

- said a source to AFM.

When the next attempt will take place, the interlocutor of the publication did not say, but said that this would not happen until the end of the year.

In September 2020, the American edition of The Drive reported on the successful testing of prototypes of hypersonic weapons developed by two rival companies - Lockheed Martin and Raytheon. The B-52 bomber was also used to launch the products. At the same time, President Trump called the missile being tested a "super-duper-missile", distorting the speed characteristics.
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  1. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 24 December 2020 09: 36
    +10
    Is this the same super duper rocket?
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 24 December 2020 09: 40
      +5
      In September 2020, the American edition of The Drive reported successful trial prototypes of hypersonic weapons developed by two rival companies - Lockheed Martin and Raytheon. The B-52 bomber was also used to launch the products.

      Come on! According to the latest authoritative VO data, there have been no tests yet!
      For example:

      Let them put it first. No tests have been carried out yet - and the production plans have already been announced ...

      Literally on December 19, here one physicist with a VO with "knowledge of the matter" tried to convince that, they say, in our lifetime the Americans could not overcome hypersound! And it was so convincing that the entire local crowd agreed.
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 24 December 2020 09: 44
        +8
        Moreover, in the United States, such tests were called tests of a "real" hypersonic missile
        The HAWC really differs from other rockets in that it uses a scramjet engine, while others use a rocket engine. If we assume that the term "hypersonic" means movement in the atmosphere (since only there is sound), then a ramjet engine that takes an oxidizer from the air is, by definition, atmospheric, and a taxiway carrying the oxidizer with it does not use the atmosphere for its tasks, and she is only a hindrance for him, without which he would be better.

        Although the United States is also developing "pseudo-atmospheric" hypersonic missiles with taxiways, they have several programs - in particular, ARRW.
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        2. Temples
          Temples 24 December 2020 13: 59
          +7
          The main thing in a weapon is to destroy the target.
          Hypersound allows you to guaranteed destruction of the target.
          There is no difference with the rocket engine the warhead reached the target or with the ramjet.
          Reliability and price are important.
          These characteristics change at different points in time.

          On Hiroshima, the mattresses were simply dropped by a parachute bomb.
          Slowly, but fulfilled their hellish task.
          1. Klingon
            Klingon 24 December 2020 20: 28
            +2
            absolutely right! you can shoot a blank from an electromagnetic slingshot, with proper power, a blank can be started at a speed of 5-7 swings. In fact, this is the same hypersonic weapon, only the principle of achieving speed is different. drinks
        3. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 24 December 2020 14: 35
          +4
          Quote: military_cat
          If we assume that the term "hypersonic" implies movement in the atmosphere

          The term "hypersound" (hypersonic speed) refers to the magnitude of the speed of an object in a particular environment. These can be different layers of the atmosphere. Ours fly in the stratosphere, amam like the troposphere ... This is their choice, let them suffer with it!
      2. Vadim Zhivov
        Vadim Zhivov 24 December 2020 09: 46
        +11
        Let them catch up ... Excuses are accepted ... wassat
      3. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 24 December 2020 10: 00
        +10
        Quote: Stas157
        Literally on December 19, here one physicist with a VO with "knowledge of the matter" tried to convince that, they say, in our lifetime the Americans could not overcome hypersound! And it was so convincing that the entire local crowd agreed.

        You don't have to lie. I wrote no more than what everyone read.
        Production plans were announced for the missile that failed the test ...
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 24 December 2020 10: 14
          +6
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          You don't have to lie.

          And what's the lie? I have cited your excerpt. I asked you exactly this question:

          Quote: Stas157
          Do you seem to be firmly convinced that during your lifetime the Americans cannot overcome hypersound and you can rest easy (laugh)?

          Which you have not refuted, but as I understand it agreed. Was that how it was? Develop my doubts.
          And here's a link to those discussions:
          https://topwar.ru/178312-v-vvs-ssha-nazvali-sroki-nachala-proizvodstva-giperzvukovyh-raket-po-programme-arrw.html#comment-id-11067686
          1. Mountain shooter
            Mountain shooter 24 December 2020 10: 53
            0
            Quote: Stas157

            Which you have not refuted, but as I understand it agreed

            I just do not respond to outright stupidity ...
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 24 December 2020 11: 10
              +6
              Quote: Mountain Shooter
              I just do not respond to outright stupidity ...

              I'm sorry! I wanted to ask a clever question - apparently it did not work out.

              About the wrong rocket. They discussed the AGM-183 hypersonic missile, which is carried by the B-52. And here's the news today:

              the B-52 bomber was also used to launch the products.

              Or maybe it’s just that rocket? And even the manufacturer is the same Lockheed-Martin. I apologize in advance if this question seems stupid to you.
              1. Mountain shooter
                Mountain shooter 24 December 2020 11: 28
                +9
                Quote: Stas157
                Or maybe it’s just that rocket? And even the manufacturer is the same Lockheed-Martin. I apologize in advance if this question seems stupid to you.

                It's good to be funny. Has the rocket been successfully tested? Yes, no, I don’t know? I read about the "stupidest mistakes", I did not see about successful tests ... What's wrong? Well, how to announce the launch of production in such situations? Praying for American engineering is not worth it. They have lost a lot since the 70s ... Then they had to chase after them. And now scientific articles are like promotional presentations ...
                1. Stas157
                  Stas157 24 December 2020 11: 35
                  +2
                  Quote: Mountain Shooter
                  It's good to be funny. Has the rocket been successfully tested?

                  News about American hypersound comes from a cornucopia. They promised to launch it into production next year, maximum in another year. And if you do not mind in the future, we will continue this topic?
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                  2. Boa kaa
                    Boa kaa 24 December 2020 15: 08
                    +3
                    Quote: Letun
                    And our MO also learned to make presentations wonderfully well

                    Colleague, this phrase is very alarming! stop
                    For what follows is the assumption that the regiment 13 diRV with 15Yu71 products, which entered the DB, is also "drawn" ... our MiG-31s ​​with X-47M2 products Dagger and frigate Gorshkov with the 3M22 Zircon product are also a "presentation"? belay
                    1. Letun
                      Letun 26 December 2020 19: 44
                      +1
                      Fuck. The watchmen removed my original comment. I wonder what sedition was in him? Is it because I said that science and education (hello, USE) are still falling apart? laughing
                      God, VO is turning more and more into a Ukrainian censor. Shame ...
              2. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik 24 December 2020 11: 33
                -6
                There are 2 programs ARRW and HAWC. Both are hypersonic. In development for several decades, in the framework of other programs. ARRW are planning to arm the B-52 and B-1, the HAWC is smaller, except for these bombers, the F-15 and F / A-18E / F can be used.
                ARRW like our Dagger. It takes off higher, where the air is maximally discharged and glides, thereby reaching hypersonic speed.

                HAWC flies straight through the dense atmosphere. Something like that
      4. Machito
        Machito 24 December 2020 10: 29
        +12
        Where is the launch video? Or at least cartoons? Americans never lie, especially Trump.
        Gogi, prove the theorem. - I swear by my mother.
        All these convulsive attempts by Trump to present something hyper-duper look like a cheap performance in a big top.
      5. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 24 December 2020 14: 13
        +6
        Quote: Stas157
        that all local crowd I agreed.

        Monsieur, STE who are you so disrespectfully defecating about?
        About the community that you yourself are part of?
        Well, this is the height of impudence! am
        Of course, you can love the Yankees, but not to the same extent as to lower compatriots below the plinth ...
    2. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 24 December 2020 09: 45
      +10
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Is this the same super duper rocket?


      Americans brag even when, in fact, they have done a mess.
      The US military has failed in testing the latest hypersonic missile.

      Attempts by the American military to get into service with hypersonic weapons again ended in failure. According to the "Operative Line" Telegram channel, during the preparation for the launch of a hypersonic missile from the B-52H strategic bomber, the product developed as part of the Hypersonic Air-breathing Weapon Concept program did not start, which was due to a technical failure ...



      “According to a number of sources familiar with the situation, the expected but failed test of the new American hypersonic missile development, carried out under the Hypersonic Air-breathing Weapon Concept (HAWC) program, did not take place due to a technical failure that prevented the launch of the product from the B-52N Stratofortress, although all the forces supporting this test were deployed in advance in the sea and in the air in designated areas along the firing route, "the Operative Line Telegram channel reports.

      https://avia.pro/news/ispytaniya-amerikanskoy-giperzvukovoy-rakety-s-borta-b-52-zavershilis-neudachey
      1. Cananecat
        Cananecat 24 December 2020 09: 55
        +6
        Americans brag even when, in fact, they have done a mess.

        They also experienced ... and the result, the tenth thing)))
    3. Evil Booth
      Evil Booth 24 December 2020 09: 59
      -29%
      with rubles sticking out of my ear with anguish I scream I don’t believe! laughing
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 24 December 2020 10: 05
        +9
        Quote: Evil Booth
        with rubles sticking out of my ear with anguish I scream I don’t believe! laughing

        Forgive you that you finished school Dur shackles? What is there to believe or not believe if, according to the Americans themselves, the tests failed? And you start to write some kind of nonsense about faith.
        The launch of the hypersonic missile, developed by Lockheed Martin under the Hypersonic Air-Air Weapon Concept (HAWC) program, was supposed to take place last week from the B-52 Stratofortress strategic bomber. The source claims that the launch failure was not due to design flaws, but due to "stupid mistakes."
    4. URAL72
      URAL72 24 December 2020 10: 09
      +2
      No! These are cartoons! We didn't see anything either. But the Ukrainians are happy and get the last fat from the caches to buy a couple of them. For a bridge that certainly doesn't exist ...
    5. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 24 December 2020 11: 06
      +7
      No. This is not a super duper.
      "Super-duper" is a conventional tactical air-launched ballistic missile.
      This missile is a hypersonic cruise missile with a ramjet engine.
      Flies constantly in the dense layers of the atmosphere. It is not a glider.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 24 December 2020 11: 46
        -3
        This missile is a hypersonic cruise missile with a ramjet engine.

        That is, it can not fly along a ballistic trajectory? Evade interception?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 24 December 2020 12: 16
          +3
          It has no ballistic trajectory at all.
          She flies along a predetermined route. Horizontally in the atmosphere.
          1. Sergey39
            Sergey39 24 December 2020 13: 44
            +4
            Quote: voyaka uh
            She flies on a predetermined route

            Should fly. But so far it is not flying anywhere, because of "stupid mistakes".
          2. Alex777
            Alex777 24 December 2020 14: 18
            +3
            Yes, I poorly formulated the question, I was in a hurry. repeat
            I was interested in the possibility of maneuvering to evade interception.
            It turns out that this is a common target, like a Tomahawk, only flies high and fast?
          3. Alex777
            Alex777 24 December 2020 14: 58
            +1
            It is not a glider.

            This is the answer to my question. smile
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 24 December 2020 15: 16
        +5
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Flies constantly in the dense layers of the atmosphere.

        Not flying yet ...
        Although the amas are trying very hard to make it fly. And this is the difference from our PKB 15Yu71, ADB X-47M2, GZKR 3M22 ... which FLY !!! tongue
    6. I AM BELARUSIAN
      I AM BELARUSIAN 24 December 2020 12: 19
      +5
      They fly in pairs. Super duper is in front, and real ass is covering.
    7. Vladimir Shcherbina
      Vladimir Shcherbina 24 December 2020 13: 33
      +2
      No, this is one of three: either "super" or "duper" or just "rocket".
  2. Vadim Zhivov
    Vadim Zhivov 24 December 2020 09: 37
    +8
    The rocket is real. The mistakes are stupid. Superfood, etc. ... American pants with straps ... laughing
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 24 December 2020 09: 41
      +11
      The dagger is apparently some kind of not real. Although both missiles are aeroballistic. Apparently there is conditionally correct western honey, and not western honey, whoever it is. American hypersonic missiles, signs of cerebral exclusivity.
      1. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 24 December 2020 11: 36
        +1
        Quote: OrangeBigg
        The dagger is apparently not real, although both missiles are aeroballistic

        the Americans tested (and failed the test) not aeroballistic ARRW, but HAWC (Hypersonic Air-breathing Weapon Concept) with a hypersonic ramjet engine
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 24 December 2020 15: 28
          +2
          Quote: Gregory_45
          Americans have tested (and failed the test)

          This is so ... But this is temporary. The Yankees will try to bribe and steal a thread for someone dear, they can come to the solution of this engineering problem themselves ... The USA is a powerful technically advanced superpower. And this must be clearly understood.
          Therefore, the GDP at a meeting of the State Council, at the last Collegium of the RF Ministry of Defense set the task - in no case to stop there!
          If we stop, we will lose, because the whole Western world is against us and his intentions are by no means peaceful ...
          In the meantime, let the amas invest in GGO like an adult: its development, technologies, materials, science, etc. Until they master they will not rock the boat.
          And there, you see, our Kulibins will come up with something else, a thread of wunderwaffe ... for an exceptional seed!
          And they will have hemorrhoids, and we - happiness!
          IMHO.
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 24 December 2020 09: 38
    +1
    At the same time, in the United States, such tests were called tests of a "real" hypersonic missile, transparently hinting that all foreign versions of such weapons that exist at the moment are in the United States are not considered "real"
    When it arrives through the window, then they will know! bully
  4. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 24 December 2020 09: 40
    +6
    all foreign versions of such weapons that exist at the moment are not considered "real" in the United States

    I wonder why? Is it just because they are not maid in usa?
    1. Vadim Zhivov
      Vadim Zhivov 24 December 2020 09: 43
      +2
      Ponty and nothing more ... They have all the "best". repeat
  5. Runoway
    Runoway 24 December 2020 09: 40
    +3
    For a long time there would have been bases on Mars, if the Russian Federation had inherited the best from the USSR, without feeding half of the world and the republic-dormitories
  6. cniza
    cniza 24 December 2020 09: 42
    +7
    In the USA: We tested a real hypersonic missile


    And before that, they experienced fake ... lol
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 24 December 2020 10: 03
      +3
      Hi soldier
      Everything for internal use, well, maybe the limitrophes will rejoice, squeal with happiness.
      1. cniza
        cniza 24 December 2020 10: 05
        +4
        Good time! hi

        They have funny times there, we have already said more than once, and now Trump has also vetoed the military budget ...
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 24 December 2020 10: 27
          +3
          Trump is poisoning ads! Lying shamelessly, self-promoting ...
          Everything is so primitive, designed for the poor mind ... and yes, I don't know how to leave, but he's getting ready to slam the door louder!
          1. cniza
            cniza 24 December 2020 10: 56
            +1
            Yes, he knows how to puff out his cheeks ... yes
            1. rocket757
              rocket757 24 December 2020 11: 51
              +1
              Showman and businessman !!! You can't take that away from him.
              1. cniza
                cniza 24 December 2020 12: 18
                +1
                But as a businessman, he is quite successful and did a lot ...
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 24 December 2020 12: 50
                  +2
                  Of course, I don’t want to multiply, if only, if only, but the course that Trump was building, in the long term, the striped hair did not have a bad chance of returning to the true greatness of the state ...
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 24 December 2020 13: 11
                    +1
                    Someone does not like this and very much ...
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 24 December 2020 13: 14
                      +1
                      Their affairs. Struggle for power, for the "sweet cake" of finance and other things.
                      Nothing out of the ordinary.
                      1. cniza
                        cniza 24 December 2020 13: 16
                        +1
                        Yes, globalists do not need states, they only need resources ...
                      2. rocket757
                        rocket757 24 December 2020 13: 45
                        +1
                        We need power, because this is the ability to control, to impose on the rest of your wishlist.
                      3. cniza
                        cniza 24 December 2020 14: 56
                        +1
                        Resources are power (money, energy, information)
                      4. rocket757
                        rocket757 24 December 2020 15: 21
                        +1
                        All this is interconnected, once and for all.
                      5. cniza
                        cniza 24 December 2020 16: 41
                        +1
                        Yes, one cannot exist without the other ...
                2. Boa kaa
                  Boa kaa 24 December 2020 15: 37
                  +1
                  Quote: cniza
                  but he's getting ready to slam the door louder!

                  It's annoying. Our people began to monitor the Persian Strait and the Red Sea ... Iran also tensed, the Jews began to stir ... All this is not good. And then the Englishwoman pulled herself up with a new strain of the Corona with a virus ... (Monarchy, what to take from her! Into one soul: I want a new Crown - well, at least you kill her! - a worldwide infection ... laughing )
                3. cniza
                  cniza 24 December 2020 16: 42
                  +2
                  He can break wood, start a war with Iran or something like that ...
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 December 2020 09: 43
    +2
    Who would doubt that only the United States and no one else can have "real"? That's why she is a "super duper rocket". Americans do not suffer from excessive modesty, especially when, to be honest, there is nothing to boast of, but necessary.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 24 December 2020 09: 43
    +2
    Oh, how, it is not written directly to her - hypersonic, well then, okay, we'll believe. wassat lol
  • KCA
    KCA 24 December 2020 09: 45
    +1
    It cannot be hypersonic, based on the numerous assertions of experts, including on this site - it does not have a scramjet engine, or is it just ours without scramjet engines not considered hypersonic, but American ones?
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 24 December 2020 09: 58
      +1
      Quote: KCA
      it does not have a scramjet

      "Hypersonic Air-breathing" means "hypersonic air-breathing".
    2. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 24 December 2020 11: 39
      +2
      Quote: KCA
      it does not have a scramjet

      on HAWC (Hypersonic Air-breathing Weapon Concept) not?
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 24 December 2020 18: 34
      +1
      On this rocket there is a scramjet engine - but the rocket itself, of course, will not be shown, like the SR 72, as well as the new planning block of the new ground-based MRBM complex, since all aerodynamic forms are state secret.
  • Graz
    Graz 24 December 2020 09: 51
    +3
    it's a pity that their wings did not rip off
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 24 December 2020 09: 53
    +4
    Sorry, but at least she got somewhere!
    1. Sentinel-vs
      Sentinel-vs 24 December 2020 09: 58
      +5
      Not the fact that she even flew. Maybe the engine on the stand has worked.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 24 December 2020 09: 59
    +4
    In the USA: We tested a real hypersonic missile

    "exceptional" wants to bend everyone .... in short, striped Wishlist!
    And in fact, lately there has been continuous chatter for internal use, for the layman who sees nothing further than his nose and READS / LISTEN only to their press.
    Standard, in short.
    1. cniza
      cniza 24 December 2020 10: 07
      +3
      They need victories and something to show the people, but so far not really ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 24 December 2020 10: 29
        +3
        They will lie, a lot and with inspiration!
        Nothing new, standard losers tactics.
        1. cniza
          cniza 24 December 2020 10: 58
          +3
          Well, yes, there is no story - they came up with all sorts of fairy-tale characters ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 24 December 2020 11: 54
            +1
            The main thing is that the readership believes, hopes that such a super-duper man, woman, in shorts, over tights and all the villains will be punished !!!
            Of course, not everyone believes anymore, but what is written with mother's milk is not so easy to forget, it is written on top dressing!
            1. cniza
              cniza 24 December 2020 13: 07
              +1
              Yes, and they believe and believe that only they have the most, well, in general, like Trump ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 24 December 2020 13: 12
                +1
                So it’s nothing special, but such a hypertrophied conceit, we still have to look.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 24 December 2020 13: 15
                  +1
                  They are very surprised when they find out that Russia is bigger than them and that it existed before the United States, in general, a very narrow overview ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 24 December 2020 13: 44
                    +1
                    It does not bother them, so sho and we do not care about that.
                    All by themselves, by themselves, are building the world in which they want to live .... the main thing is that Schaub did not climb to others !!! from this they must be weaned harshly.
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 24 December 2020 14: 55
                      +1
                      Quote: rocket757
                      most importantly, Schaub did not climb to others! from this they must be weaned harshly.


                      But this is the problem, they cannot live differently ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 24 December 2020 15: 20
                        +1
                        They are not the first, they are not the last .... for everyone there came a moment when the rest, others, explained such "exceptional", where they should go with their Wishlist !!! And this is still a soft option, if you look at it.
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 24 December 2020 10: 43
        +2
        We remember the first match in 1972! Nothing has changed! And we had a VEF 202 receiver in our family, we knew the result in 12 hours.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 24 December 2020 12: 00
          +1
          Yes, supe a series of hockey matches !!! That year, they say, the girls were called Harlamami !!!
          However, the broadcast of the matches was shown, albeit with a time delay ...
          Although I agree, it was, was our top, the habit / desire to hide unpleasant events !!! This, too, has fallen into the treasury of the people's indifference to the fate of "leading and guiding".
          It all starts with a small, and then a big, big lump of contradictions, hostility gathers and .... then you yourself know.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 24 December 2020 10: 02
    0
    And why are we pulling, they promised to test Zircon on a target simulating an aircraft carrier! A present for Christmas, that is, tomorrow! drinks
    1. K-612-O
      K-612-O 24 December 2020 11: 50
      +1
      We have Christmas 7.01, you can have a Catholic one. Do not worry, according to the test program and plan
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 24 December 2020 12: 55
        0
        I am exactly on their Christmas from 25. So to say, a gift from Santa Claus in a sock! Trump and Canary should hang a sock on the headboard more and wider !!!
  • Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 24 December 2020 10: 03
    0
    I remember the discussion of "Dagger" .... gp or br ...... and then gp and that's it.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 24 December 2020 10: 36
    +1
    The grapes are green! Said the fox.
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 24 December 2020 10: 52
    0
    A good mine, with a bad game .......
  • Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 24 December 2020 11: 07
    +2
    That is, DARPA finally tested the "real" rocket that they had there ... a long time ago. According to their own statements. In general, I returned the pot to my neighbor long ago, although I never took it from my neighbor, besides, it broke long ago, because it was taken with a crack. Ugh...
  • Hermit21
    Hermit21 24 December 2020 11: 57
    0
    Have you dropped MGM? We would be ashamed to tell about it
  • Old26
    Old26 24 December 2020 16: 09
    +2
    Quote: Temples
    Hypersound allows you to guaranteed destruction of the target.

    It would be more correct to say that hypersound allows you to quickly reach the goal. And whether he destroys it or not depends primarily on the guidance system

    Quote: Temples
    There is no difference with the rocket engine the warhead reached the target or with the ramjet.

    There is a difference. The rocket engine burns out in a short period of time and it is not possible to re-target a hypersonic rocket-powered rocket at a target located at a significant distance from the first. And you can do it with a direct flow. The system is more flexible

    Quote: BoA KAA
    Quote: military_cat
    If we assume that the term "hypersonic" implies movement in the atmosphere

    The term "hypersound" (hypersonic speed) refers to the magnitude of the speed of an object in a particular environment. These can be different layers of the atmosphere. Ours fly in the stratosphere, amam like the troposphere ... This is their choice, let them suffer with it!

    I don't quite agree, Alexander! The Americans launched the same X-51 from a height of 15 km and it made its flight at an altitude of 21,5 km EMNIP. That is, just like ours in the stratosphere

    Quote: cniza
    In the USA: We tested a real hypersonic missile

    And before that, they experienced fake ... lol

    Well, in some ways, the Americans are right, although they declare, as always, with aplomb .. Almost any ballistic missile is a priori hypersonic. But this speed "holds" for an extremely insignificant period of time. After that, it starts to slow down to supersonic speeds. In principle, "real" can be called a cruise missile with a hypersonic ramjet. ... This is their HAWC, our Zircon. I prefer to use other terms. A rocket-powered rocket is a "non-motorized hypersound", a ramjet missile is a "motor hypersound. In one case, the engine works for tens of seconds, in the other case, minutes and tens of minutes.
  • Gunner
    Gunner 24 December 2020 17: 01
    0
    Super trooper rocket.
  • Old26
    Old26 24 December 2020 18: 44
    0
    Quote: Hermit21
    Have you dropped MGM? We would be ashamed to tell about it

    We are also reporting. Even photos are published. As an example - early photos with X-32 missiles. Yes, and "Kinzhalov2" appeared a lot of photographs, with various modifications. With 4 and 6 aerodynamic planes
  • fa2998
    fa2998 24 December 2020 21: 20
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    here one physicist with a VO with "knowledge of the matter" convinced that, they say, in our lifetime the Americans cannot overcome hypersound! And so it was convincing

    And your expert knows that the Americans already in the early 60s built a MANNERED hypersonic aircraft (X-15). And they flew (almost 200 flights). And the task is much more difficult - the life support of the crew, landing (landing gear, skis) Many achievements are still so far not beaten! hi
  • meandr51
    meandr51 24 December 2020 21: 26
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    Under Reagan, they assured that in a month they would launch nuclear lasers into orbit and start "star wars". Still nothing ...
  • eklmn
    eklmn 24 December 2020 23: 41
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    For the curious, from orig. articles (translated by google):
    “According to sources, DARPA’s attempt to launch the first experimental missile with the concept of hypersonic air-jet weapons (HAWC) last week failed due to unsuccessful tests. DARPA announced in September that it had completed trials of two types of HAWC vehicles for captive transport and would be launching at least one by the end of the year. Both Lockheed Martin and Raytheon Technologies developed HAWC demonstrators, and sources said the Lockheed missile was being tested.
    “It's not a design issue,” said a source familiar with the program. "These are stupid mistakes." The Air Force and DARPA lifted the telemetry plane and cleared the test site, but the missile was not fired from its B-52 base ship. The exact nature of the problem was not disclosed, but sources suggest that there were "major bugs" related to the mechanics of the test.
    The service is expected to test the AGM-183 Airborne Rapid Response Weapon (ARRW) by the end of the month, but this is an Air Force-only hypersonic glide missile program that is separate from HAWC. Will Roper during the AFA Doolittle Leadership Center virtual forum December 14.
    The Air Force and DARPA are collaborating on HAWC, and want to test a ramjet with hydrocarbon fuel to study engine designs, heat-resistant materials, and other technologies needed to develop commercially available and affordable hypersonic missiles. small enough to be launched from a fighter jet.
    The US Air Force Research Laboratory recently announced that it was ground testing an 18-foot scramjet engine in November. Built by Aerojet Rocketdyne, it developed 13 pounds of thrust and could potentially be used in a large hypersonic vehicle of the future. Lockheed Martin will acquire Aerojet by the end of 000, Lockheed reported on December 2021.
  • Russian2020
    Russian2020 25 December 2020 06: 08
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    And before that, were all super rockets toy?
  • VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK
    VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK 25 December 2020 06: 57
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    Not a blank they created! And they cannot control, that is, they cannot guide the target!
  • Syroitel_nik
    Syroitel_nik 26 December 2020 11: 59
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    Quote: Gregory_45
    Americans have tested (and failed the test)

    This is so ... But this is temporary. The Yankees will try to bribe and steal a thread for someone dear, they can come to the solution of this engineering problem themselves ... The USA is a powerful technically advanced superpower. And this must be clearly understood.
    Therefore, the GDP at a meeting of the State Council, at the last Collegium of the RF Ministry of Defense set the task - in no case to stop there!
    If we stop, we will lose, because the whole Western world is against us and his intentions are by no means peaceful ...
    In the meantime, let the amas invest in GGO like an adult: its development, technologies, materials, science, etc. Until they master they will not rock the boat.
    And there, you see, our Kulibins will come up with something else, a thread of wunderwaffe ... for an exceptional seed!
    And they will have hemorrhoids, and we - happiness!
    IMHO.

    So in recent years, amas in the role of catch-up. They are constantly investing in neutralizing Russia's actions. It began with the friendship of the Presidents of Russia, Brazil, Argentina. How much money and time it took to destroy this friendship. Then Venezuela and Syria. Hypersonic weapons of Russia. Now the amas are going to invest in R&D on icebreakers in order to oppose the Northern Sea Route. At the last meeting of the EEU, Cuba as an observer.
    Guys, do you think candy wrappers can always be printed uncontrollably ??? They have already overstrained. That is why the dirtiest elections. And the legs of "controlled chaos" are from there. How long will a colossus last on feet of clay?