The work of the testing laboratory, lost after the collapse of the USSR, has been restored in the Arctic

It became known about the next stage of Russia's restoration activities in the Arctic region. The Arctic is gaining more and more strategic weight, and therefore experts predict that it may soon become an arena of open geopolitical confrontation. Already, foreign "partners" are making attempts to question the ownership of the Northern Sea Route to Russia, in fact, offering to ignore the norms of international maritime law.

A new stage in the development of Russian infrastructure in the Arctic is the restoration of the work of a special testing laboratory by TsNIItochmash. We are talking about a special laboratory for testing grenade launcher and small-caliber (cannon) weapons, which operated during the years of the existence of the Soviet Union. The laboratory was truly unique. It worked out options for testing weapons in the harsh Arctic conditions.

The press service of TsNIITOCHMASH reports that the laboratory will be used to test grenade launcher systems and cannon weapons with a caliber of up to 30 mm. The main task is to check the efficiency of the complex at extremely low temperatures - down to minus 60 Celsius. The technology of such tests, fortunately, was not lost after the collapse of the USSR, but the laboratory itself in the early 1990s could not be preserved due to a total lack of funding. Now, restoration will help bring back a unique system and test technology to obtain effective weaponsthat can be used in extreme conditions.

Earlier, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation created several objects in the Arctic region, including the so-called "Arctic Trefoil". It is an autonomous military facility on the Alexandra Land Island, which is used to guard the northern borders of the Russian Federation.

Comments

[Machito]

Russia is significantly ahead of the United States in the Arctic. This advantage must be increased. Moreover, through the North Pole is the shortest route to the United States.

[Ilya-spb]

It is necessary to put soldiers from France, Germany, Poland, the USA in a laboratory for -60. And a Negro with a Ukrainian. And see who will last the longest.

[Vasiliev S.]

Definitely not Russians!
Trust the shift worker with experience ...
Russians cannot stand the cold at all.
"Draft" is a purely Russian invention.
The rest just don't pay.
Even in warm countries, such as Spain, Russians cry from the cold in their winter ...
Really, a bunch of such stories on the internet ...

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: VasilievS

Definitely not Russians!
Trust the shift worker with experience ...
Russians cannot stand the cold at all.
"Draft" is a purely Russian invention.
The rest just don't pay.
Even in warm countries, such as Spain, Russians cry from the cold in their winter ...
Really, a bunch of such stories on the internet ...

You are not Russian, so you are a shift worker with experience. If you talk about Russians like that ..... Ukrainian, maybe even a Negro himself ?!

[Vasiliev S.]

The Ukrainians were expelled in our country back in the 90s, alas!
And, as far as I remember, in this respect they did not differ much from the Russians.
And I say this because it is in nature.
There are fewer Russians in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug than in Tyum. area.
In the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District, less than in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug
In fishing less than in the city.
In the brigades of the PRS, no one often speaks Russian, except for the master ...
And the master is not always good.
That is why TB-schnicks and other office public have a lot of problems - they cannot explain themselves

[Hunter 2]

Quote: VasilievS

There are fewer Russians in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug than in Tyum. area.
In Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug less than in Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug

I will tell you a terrible Secret, only you to anyone ...
Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug and Yamal-Nenets Autonomous Okrug - Components of the Tyumen Region! Tyumen Oblast is a Composite Subject of the Russian Federation.
What and what have you compared ???

[Vasiliev S.]

Let me tell you another secret - I compared it with the so-called "south of the Tyumen region", it is it that is usually understood as a region.
Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug and Yamal-Nenets Autonomous District are independent in real life.
But you can only compare them, the data is open and publicly known.

[Geek]

I can assume that there are no Russian speakers for the reason that they pay pennies, so they recruit Tatjiks and Uzbeks.

[Vasiliev S.]

There are all kinds.
I have not seen Tajiks.
Pombour is about 4 thousand a day, regardless of whether he works or sleeps.
120 per month.
Master more.
PS: it's not a matter of salary - the work is not in any weather (there is meteo) but still on the street and not that it is extremely difficult, but tiring.

[Vasiliev S.]

Although there are almost all Russian speakers ...
Once I drove into a bush - almost all Kumyks, Azerbaijanis ...
Master and geologist of the Tatars.
I went into the carriage to the guys - oh, sit down, tea, sweets ...

[Alexander Romanov]

In your Khanty-Mansi Autonomous District, shift workers are thrown, like nowhere else in Russia. So there are no suckers to go to you anymore

[Vasiliev S.]

Sorry, you're right.
I'm going to Yakutia.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: VasilievS

There are fewer Russians in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug than in Tyum. area.
In the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous District, less than in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug
In fishing less than in the city.
In the brigades of the PRS, no one often speaks Russian, except for the master ...
And the master is not always good.

For objectivity, if you went to Sochi, to construction sites - the picture is the same. Looks like the Russians can't stand the heat.
Once I watched a showdown in St. Petersburg's markets on TV. Surprised, the head of the market (about which the program was) did not know the Russian language. Again, it’s probably not the climate behind the counters for the Russians.

[Vasiliev S.]

Strange oooh ...
But perhaps it is connected with the proximity of the Caucasus?
I cannot go to Sochi, not a builder ...
I have never been beyond the Urals.

[Captain45]

Quote: VasilievS

There are fewer Russians in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug than in Tyum. area.
In the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug it is less than in the Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug. There is less in the field than in the city.

Quote: VasilievS

I have never been beyond the Urals.

How can you know this if you have never been beyond the Urals? Tyumen is beyond the Urals, Yermak Timofeevich knew about that

[Vasiliev S.]

Neeeee - this is you, along with your Sochi beyond the Urals!
And we are on our own land.
And this Timofeevich is parallel to me - my ancestors lived here long before him.
I'm local.

[HUNTERDON]

Apparently your delirium is from Santa Claus

[Vasiliev S.]

Come see ...
Although what to watch - right on this forum saw the discussion of how -15 is "carried over"!
? !!
Yes, it cannot be tolerated in any way - normal comfortable temperature - hands do not freeze and do not sweat in a sweatshirt.
Even the cables are soft.
You can work all day and not notice any inconveniences.

[HUNTERDON]

Everything is subjective. I, in turn, would look at you, in the Taganrog area at minus 15.

[Vasiliev S.]

Ahhh, I know - about the so-called. "humidity".
Lazha.
Worked on the Far East, 12 km. from the sea, snow to the second floor ...
Humidity is high all the time.
And I did not notice any differences in sensations.

[neri73-r]

Quote: VasilievS

Ahhh, I know - about the so-called. "humidity".
Lazha.
Worked on the Far East, 12 km. from the sea, snow to the second floor ...
Humidity is high all the time.
And I did not notice any differences in sensations.

Definitely a lie! The citizen is not familiar with physics.

[Vasiliev S.]

Practice dear ...
And physics too - do not care about humidity, the main thing is the wind.

PS: Meteo (weather conditions) is derived from the so-called. "hardness", according to the table, there is wind and temperature in it.
Humidity is not taken into account.
Unlike you, I actually worked in the field.
Many years.

[neri73-r]

Vasya, I lived in different regions of our country, with different climates! And I do not need to fill in about the "field", you are our field!

[Vasiliev S.]

Well, I lived.
And what?
Do you know about meteo?
No.
Why are you talking nonsense then?
PS: in fact, it is clear from what - you are clearly a room person.

[forcecom]

Let me disagree with you about the "humidity" 12 km from the sea, you say?
I am also a little practical and know well the difference between -15 and -30 at the piers. I live 8 kilometers from big water, work 50 meters from it, the difference at the same temperature is significant.

[Vasiliev S.]

You know, this nonsense has already begun to bother me a little ...
Here - https://planetcalc.ru/2087/ calculator subjective sensations from the weather.
Real physicists have invented a formula with fractional powers, etc.
When you find moisture there, we will continue the discussion.
In your case, perhaps the difference in sensations depends on the spray in the air.
But this is not the "humidity".

[forcecom]

Calm down, I am politely communicating with you, so leave your "nonsense" to yourself and your drinking companions on duty, I have been living near big water for 45 years and I come across this "nonsense" of yours every winter. You come to the base of the KSF in winter, walk along the piers and see what color after 4 hours (the upper watch is just) your body parts protruding from the torso will be.

[Vasiliev S.]

1) I don't drink at all. I don't drink beer either.
2) Not familiar with drinking companions. That is, with drunks.
3) Pier in how many meters away from the water? I was talking about kilometers... Nothing gets there. But snow is falling, due to the elevation difference, the hills. And not at all cold. Compared to Novy Urengoy, the lafa is complete ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Big liar

[Vasiliev S.]

Well, come on, prove it.
Tell TB-Schnicks, management - that they are wrong ...
In vain "humidity" is not taken into account.
In vain it is not in the instructions.
The wind is there.
The temperature is.
Humidity - no.
Don't care about her.

Only I'm afraid they will laugh at you.
And they will even be sent with such nonsense.

Sailors do not believe in any kind of weather, only the barometer.
Because this is their bread.
And I have bread in the field.
And I don't believe in "moisture", actually ...
Because I know in practice, in my red face ...
And I only believe in frost and wind.

[Ural resident]

Quote: VasilievS

Ahhh, I know - about the so-called. "humidity".
Lazha.
Worked on the Far East, 12 km. from the sea, snow to the second floor ...
Humidity is high all the time.
And I did not notice any differences in sensations.

I still did not understand what you meant when you wrote that Russians can not stand the cold. The fact that you need to work all day, undressed in the cold, and then pour yourself some water?
-15 the usual average temperature in winter, light skiing, for a while you can be without gloves. When over -30 just dress appropriately, if in summer clothes, then of course it's cold. And the heat exchange is different for everyone, does not depend on nationality, there are people who are freezing even at + 30.

[Vasiliev S.]

Quote: A resident of the Urals

there are people who are freezing even at + 30.

If you are freezing, be patient, do not whine, do not squeal.
This is what I meant.
Russians also dress excessively, sweat and stink ...
With what it is connected, with physiology or psychology - no idea.

[lwxx]

Moreover, through the North Pole is the shortest route to the United States.

I will disappoint you - this is a shortcut for the SGA to strike at the densely populated part of Russia. And for Russia, the shortest path to the states is Chukotka and Kamchatka. In this regard, Russia is taking measures, especially in recent years, to strengthen the grouping of forces and means of air defense of the Northern Fleet.

[K-612-O]

This is only to the west coast, and that is the same for rockets, and to Central and East America, only through the north

[Victor_B]

Well ... Well done!
Today the Americans have really started to open their mouths to OUR wealth in the Arctic.
The United States itself has NOT RATIFIED the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea!
That is, from the point of view of AMERICAN laws, they can do everything they can capture and then protect.
The exclusive economic zone is a part of the sea 200 nautical miles (370,4 kilometers) wide, measured from the low tide line or from the baseline for them - this is an area near their coastline that is forbidden to everyone, but the same area near a foreign coastline they may or may not recognize.

[Avior]

... The United States itself has NOT RATIFIED the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea!

States have ratified the 1958 Convention on the Law of the Sea. But they did not ratify the expanded 1982 Convention

[Victor_B]

Quote: Avior

States have ratified the 1958 Convention on the Law of the Sea. But they did not ratify the expanded 1982 Convention

And what does that change?
Who dares to poke their nose into THEIR "economic" zone?
And will they dare to stick their nose in ANOTHER where and when they need it?

[Yura]

Quote: Victor_B

but they may not recognize the same area near someone else's coastline.

As we are. Therefore, they will still admit, so as not to have problems with reciprocal non-recognition.

[Reader 2013]

"Today, the Americans really started to open their mouths to OUR riches in the Arctic."

Ours there is only a ridiculous salary, the rest of the Rotenbergs and others ........ there are words, but they will not be missed

[Hunter 2]

It's nice to read the news that something New is being built, or at least the lost is being restored! The Arctic requires “special” attention - but the return is colossal!
Checking weapons in extreme conditions, an important task!

[rotmistr60]

in the near future it may become an arena of open geopolitical confrontation

Why can it? It has already become an arena of open confrontation. Listen to the statements of American generals and politicians about "containing Russia in the Arctic", about American control over "open shipping", about claims to the Northern Sea Route. And Norway and Sweden suddenly began to urgently strengthen their armed forces to "contain" Russia and in this particular region. We are saved by the fact that we not only did not ditch our icebreaker fleet, but also build new ships, clean the Arctic from garbage, and create bases. Therefore, NATO (USA) is several steps ahead.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: rotmistr60

We are saved by the fact that we not only did not ditch our icebreaker fleet, but also build new ships, cleaning the Arctic from garbage, create bases.

I do not deny that the Soviet period of the development of the Arctic and Polar regions cannot be counted among environmentally friendly projects. The USSR received a huge benefit from the development of the Northbut, I will say more, that harmthat was inflicted on the Arctic and Polar regions by "pioneers" in uniform and without not subject to any calculation... That is why the information about those today's environmental disasters for which responsibility is truly ridiculous (in comparison with the benefits that the country, and not specific people, "got" from this) is perceived with bitterness.
As for the cleaning of debris and the "cleaning chairman" ... There is an article like this:
The military will clear the Arctic from garbage by 2020
https://www.pnp.ru/economics/voennye-ochistyat-arktiku-ot-musora-do-2020-goda.html
There is such data there:

From 2015 to 2017, the forces of the Ministry of Defense in the Arctic zone collected and removed more than 16 thousand tons of scrap metal

And literally below:

Only in the coastal zone of the Arctic Ocean there are up to four million tons of industrial and construction waste, as well as up to 12 million iron barrels.

It is easy to calculate that it will take at least 750 years to eliminate all the consequences at such a rate. This is what is depressing. In a country where more than half a million people "hover" in the zones in the literal and figurative sense, where about six million unemployed (including those who are not registered and are listed as "self-employed"), a couple of hundred military personnel are involved in cleaning (whose duty to work cleaners?) and several dozen pieces of equipment ...
Something, but the restoration of the test laboratory just beyond the Arctic Circle, I'm just glad ...

[Kart]

Quote: ROSS 42

It is easy to calculate that it will take at least 750 years to eliminate all the consequences at such a rate. This is what is depressing.

And those who brought these millions of barrels there and threw them there - don't they depress?
They have been dumping in the USSR for decades - this is normal.
Now Russia is putting things in order - it's depressing.
Familiar logic.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Carte

And those who brought these millions of barrels there and threw them there - don't they depress?
They have been dumping in the USSR for decades - this is normal.

NOT NORMAL !!!

Quote: ROSS 42

The Soviet period of the development of the Arctic and Polar regions cannot be considered environmentally friendly projects. The USSR received a huge benefit from the development of the North, but, I will say more, the harm that was inflicted on the Arctic and the Arctic by the "pioneers" in uniform and without is not subject to any calculation.

Quote: Carte

Now Russia is putting things in order - it's depressing.

DISAPPEARING THE RATE OF GUIDANCE !!!

Quote: ROSS 42

This is what is depressing. In a country where more than half a million people "hover" in the zones in the literal and figurative sense, where about six million unemployed (including those who are not registered and are listed as "self-employed"), a couple of hundred military personnel are involved in cleaning (whose duty to work cleaners?) and several dozen pieces of equipment ...

Quote: Carte

Familiar logic.

The familiar song of the Kremlin bot! I tell you this as a resident of Siberia, and I am not afraid of this word. You would stop groveling and learn to read quickly (speed reading technique) in order to assimilate the WHOLE amount of text ...
And then you are depressed by the same thing: when that negative is poked in your face, which was formed thanks to AND YOUR DIRECT participation. For you, the silent (Molchalins) are much more pleasant ...

[Kart]

Quote: ROSS 42

I tell you this as a resident of Siberia

Where were you, "inhabitants of Siberia", when Siberia was fouled by you under the USSR?
Also go and loudly shook their pens in the newspapers, calling everyone communist kremlebots?
Or then they sang that everything is right and good?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Carte

Or then they sang that everything is right and good?

Judging by the statements, you spent the entire period of the 90s in testicles and did not have time to notice that the structural enterprises, units, bases in the regions of the Far North were abandoned precisely during the reign of EBN, whose center rises in Yekaterinburg. And when I was in military units (located anywhere) there were plans to hand over scrap metal and send it to the "mainland" ... But you did not know that ...

[frog]

Colleague, hammer Firstly, it is useless .... Secondly, returning to the topic, essno, no tochmash in the Arctic contained anything. There were many miracles in the Union, but even there they did not sink to such delirium. Just the author of the post slightly ..... distorted / embellished / creatively modified. And .... loudspeakers did not bother to check this very news, why bother? Here, as with calibers

[Pashhenko Nikolay]

I did not find such messages from TsNIITOCHMASH. I just wanted to know where exactly this laboratory is being restored. The author of the article does not want to throw off the link to the news?

[voronin]

It is unlikely that you will find, the facility is secure.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Pashhenko Nikolay

I did not find such messages from TsNIITOCHMASH. I just wanted to know where exactly this laboratory is being restored. The author of the article does not want to throw off the link to the news?

Nowhere. Saw cut. Automation can be checked in a conventional armored chamber with an attached freezer.

[Kart]

Automation of what?
For example, an armored vehicle or a tank? Or S-400 automation?

[sergo1914]

Quote: Carte

Automation of what?
For example, an armored vehicle or a tank? Or S-400 automation?

Buddy, read the article carefully. Small-caliber cannon armament. They are tested on special stands. There is no point in bringing this to the Arctic. The point is to test in sea conditions. For this there was a training ground near Feodosia.

[Laksamana besar]

This landfill is located in Podolsk, Moscow region, like TsNIITOCHMASH itself.
http://cniitm.ru/news/581/

Periodic certification for compliance with the requirements of programs and methods introduced by the Federal Law "On Ensuring the Uniformity of Measurements" in 2014 was passed by 3 chambers: a dust chamber, a combined heat and rain chamber and a cold chamber.
“The certification was the final technical stage in the restoration of the unique testing technology lost after the collapse of the USSR, which was owned only by our institute,” said Sergei Karasev, head of the Scientific and Technical Center for Testing and Experimental Research of VVST AO TsNIITOCHMASH.

[sergo1914]

Where will they find -60 in the Arctic now? It is not easier to take an old bomb shelter (or dig a new one in Lvovka), install an armored chamber with a freezer and a wind blower. And that's all. And not to fence a garden with logistics in the Far North.

[Kart]

Indeed, we must give everything to the people.
And then ish, the oligarchs got loose, they started to build something in the north, and the country of the last hedgehogs has already finished eating.

[sergo1914]

Quote: Carte

Indeed, we must give everything to the people.
And then ish, the oligarchs got loose, they started to build something in the north, and the country of the last hedgehogs has already finished eating.

I will answer the same.
We must understand the depth of our depths.

[ork_333]

Quote: sergo1914

Where will they find -60 in the Arctic now? It is not easier to take an old bomb shelter (or dig a new one in Lvovka), install an armored chamber with a freezer and a wind blower. And that's all. And not to fence a garden with logistics in the Far North.

Yes, we already understood that in the USSR they were stupid and now they are no better, since they cannot think of the simplest solutions that you immediately found. Everyone around is "sawing" everything, only you, our "most perspicacious", know everything and see everything.

[sergo1914]

Quote: ork_333

Quote: sergo1914

Where will they find -60 in the Arctic now? It is not easier to take an old bomb shelter (or dig a new one in Lvovka), install an armored chamber with a freezer and a wind blower. And that's all. And not to fence a garden with logistics in the Far North.

Yes, we already understood that in the USSR they were stupid and now they are no better, since they cannot think of the simplest solutions that you immediately found. Everyone around is "sawing" everything, only you, our "most perspicacious", know everything and see everything.

I spent a month banishing ballistic barrels 30 and 23 after experiments at the training base of the school. Everyday. He took it off the rack, carried it to the yard, blew it off, showed it to the manager, took it to the rack with clean ones. At work, he took part in shooting and other tests of artillery systems of these calibers. Was part of the test group at the sea range. But if you understand this issue better - for God's sake.

[bk316]

The laboratory was truly unique. It worked out the options tested

Interestingly, I have never heard this, but I often visited TsNIITOCHMASH.
By the way, an example of an organization that has never stopped developing new products.

[Laksamana besar]

Testing laboratory has been restored in the Arctic ...

The title is touching, I did not know that the Moscow region, where the laboratory is located, belongs to the Arctic.

[businessv]

Now, restoration will help bring back a unique testing system and technology to obtain effective weapons that can be used in extreme conditions.

Great news! Well done tochmash!

[rocket757]

The lost will have to be restored. What is needed first.
This is a logical process, since we consider the north ours and are ready to prove it to everyone.