"It's easier to missile on the dam": on the federal channel discussed the water supply to Crimea cut off by Ukraine

Some time ago, President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy made a statement that from January 1 in Ukraine, vaccination with the use of an American-made vaccine would allegedly begin. According to Zelensky, this is about 50 thousand doses. At the same time in Ukraine they say that the vaccine "must also be provided to the residents of Donbass and Crimea, since Ukrainians also live there."

Russian television discussed these statements coming from Kiev. On the air of the program "60 minutes" on the TV channel "Russia", the strange logic of the Ukrainian authorities was noted. For some reason, in the case of vaccination, Kiev suddenly remembered the Ukrainians in the Donbass and Crimea, but when it comes to the economic blockade of Donbass and the cut off supplies of fresh water to the Crimean peninsula, Zelensky no longer remembers “Ukrainians” there ...

During the program, Vladimir Zhirinovsky spoke, who said that "Dnieper is ours" and that he made a proposal on the border of the Smolensk region to redirect this river through the Don water basin "bypassing Ukraine."

The host of the program Evgeny Popov, referring to Zhirinovsky, said literally the following:

Vladimir Volfovich, it's easier to shoot a rocket across a dam ... One rocket - and the path of (Dnieper) water to Crimea is open.

This refers to the structure that Ukraine created to cut off the water to the Crimeans.

Recall that on the eve of a representative of the Ukrainian delegation to the Trilateral Contact Group quite cynically stated that Ukraine could start supplying fresh water to Crimea "in the form of humanitarian aid" - "by tank trucks under the control of the Red Cross mission or the UN." Therefore, the proposal with a rocket on the air of the federal channel can be regarded as a response to the cynicism of Ukrainian officials.

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[Orange bigg]

"It's easier to missile on the dam": on the federal channel discussed the water supply to Crimea cut off by Ukraine

Option.

[Machito]

This is not an option. Russia needs all of Ukraine. History shows that the borders in Europe between the West and the East, Rome and Byzantium are constantly changing: they either migrate to the east due to the turmoil in Russia, then heroically shift to the west due to the unity of Russia.

[Lexus]

We should not talk now, but act in 2014. But the "uncle" came from Switzerland, threatened the crooks with the seizure of the loot, and zealous patriotism finally slipped into vile putriotism. The "Finishers" filled their pants and continued to plunder the inhabitants.

[Evil Booth]

Yes, what is Russia controlled from the outside, and slavery in the United States and serfdom are one and the same oga.

[Nikon O'Conor]

Donate? * Or what needs to be done to demote even the "private"?

[Evil Booth]

what? silt so SHIELD !? whom will you donate to?

[Nikon O'Conor]

The first time I see a user without a "shoulder strap", so I wonder how so?)) And "donate" is a payment for the site administration or games for any bonuses))

[Evil Booth]

that is, you just do not see yourself. purely pozyrit shook saw the user of the car, too, without a pontovoy like me and you. so what can you do with the second try?

[Nikon O'Conor]

You are very difficult to understand. But I looked at your profile, the rating in the minuses was "demoted", I did not know that this was possible))

[Evil Booth]

woe is what!
what about you? are you sick? why no rhombuses?

[Nikon O'Conor]

so since November I was only zaregan, before that I just looked through it for a couple of years ...

[Evil Booth]

So what ? here straight apru years waiting for me? I confess I understood your superiority at last, thanks to your scientific leadership, I will leave you in silence to avoid further problems.

[Nikon O'Conor]

I don’t even know what to answer Why did you wait? Why you? Just for the first time I encountered such an eemmm phenomenon or what? Therefore I asked

[URAL72]

Nothing, now Polkan will throw ural at you!

[zadorin1974]

Greetings Alexei. In the old days there was a system of skulls, so some figures before minus marshals agreed with skulls)))))

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Nikon OConor

You are very difficult to understand.

Drink "them" slegonets! The thought of "them" spreads along the tree, like diarrhea in a monkey!

[Nikon O'Conor]

With such rates, he always crawls to the computer.

[Reserve officer]

Alexey, now with a negative rating, there are no shoulder straps. You have not seen the good glorious times when especially odious personalities received epaulettes with skulls. And, it should be noted, sometimes they achieved high titles in this. It was very funny, I don’t understand why this joke was removed.
Hey, site administration! Maybe revive?

[Lexus]

For some site visitors, the pads on their fingers will wear off from minus.

[krops777]

For some site visitors, the pads on their fingers will wear off from minus.

The minuses are being rolled into you for your non-objectivity, not for left-wing communist views. You need to look at things realistically and you have everything from one extreme to another.

[Revolver]

Quote: Reserve officer

good glorious times, when especially odious personalities received shoulder straps with skulls ... Maybe revive?

Support.

[Kart]

And country flags. It was also a very useful thing, more useful than the minuses.

[Captain45]

Quote: Reserve officer

good glorious times, when especially odious individuals received epaulettes with skulls

Quote: Carte

And country flags. It was also a very useful thing, more useful than the minuses.

With two hands FOR !!!

[Cat]

And country flags. It was also a very useful thing, more useful than the minuses.

The checkboxes were useful when at one time it was possible to select them by hand in the profile (including the flag of the USSR), and before that they were set by the machine by IP location

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Stock Officer

You have not seen the good glorious times when especially odious personalities received epaulettes with skulls.
Hey, site administration! Maybe revive?

Such ?...
Shoulder straps of the 16th Ishim rifle Siberian regiment (reconstruction option ...)

[Captain45]

Quote: cat Rusich

Such ?...
Shoulder straps of the 16th Ishim rifle Siberian regiment (reconstruction option ...)

Nah, those skull-headed ones up to these shoulder straps, like a nozzle to a rocket! It seems like both are flying, but the difference ...

[Cat]

especially odious individuals received shoulder straps with skulls

Why immediately with the skulls? Here, shoulder straps with tridents are suitable for many, for some American sleepers, and for some, buttonholes with runes.

[venik]

Quote: Evil Booth

what? silt so SHIELD !? whom will you donate to?

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To the booth, to the booth! To the place!

[Real Pilot]

Quote: Nikon OConor

so since November I was only zaregan, before that I just looked through it for a couple of years ...

And that's okay.

Several months ago, after updating the Android application, I also had the opportunity to write comments here!
And so, like a colleague, I have been reading for years ... Not everyone uses a computer, some are "telephone operators". And now in touch

[Cat]

after updating the application for Android, it also became possible to write comments here!
And so, like a colleague, I have been reading for years ... Not everyone is using a computer, some are "telephone operators"

What was the problem? On Android, comments could also be written in any browser.

[Machito]

Moscow was not built in a day. We are now a plundered colony. And what will happen in 10 years? Who knows. If the yoke is not thrown off, then it will not fold.

[Lexus]

Quote: Bearded

If the yoke is not thrown off, then it will not fold.

It is not for nothing that the "yoke" has been zeroed out and is hiding behind "guarantees." He senses a "furry animal".

[Machito]

No one has yet been able to reset the white fur-bearing animal heading north

[Lexus]

Your words would go to the bunker. Together with a newbie, which is not type.

[Albert1988]

Quote: lexus

Together with a newbie who is not like.

Judging by its "effectiveness" - really one "homeopathy" instead of BOV

[Lexus]

Do you want to test yourself? To "no" and no trial. There is zero. People's.

[Albert1988]

Quote: lexus

Do you want to test yourself?

He has already been tested for three - all three are alive and do not even have a hint of disturbances in the work of the central nervous system! But a "newbie" is not an organophosphate! This is the finest trash that leads to irreversible disruption of the functioning of nerve synapses, and no atropine will help. Plus, this same rubbish also has a so-called genotoxic effect, that is, it leads to such damage to DNA that the cell goes to apoptosis - programmed suicide, that is, the nervous tissue will also die off ...
Briefly summarizing - if a person survives, then at best he will speak as after a severe stroke, and his hands will shake like in Parkinson's ...
But no - Skripals run as if they were running (according to British media), Navalny already jumps harder than the skakuasses on the Maidan and voices harder than Milonov.

Py.Sy .: A acetylcholinesterase inhibitor can be bought at the pharmacy:
https://www.vidal.ru/drugs/clinic-pointer/02.11.03.01
I especially like this drug:
https://www.vidal.ru/drugs/nivalin__3023
The name - you can not imagine better! Change one letter and how it will sound
Now, if you pour out its full package in coffee ...

[Fan-fan]

Well, for example, although Skripal survived, he became disabled.

[Vadim237]

Like everyone else, they survived except for the cat - they are such effective combat poisoning Novices. Damn it, recin will be 100 times more effective.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Vadim237

Damn it, recin will be 100 times more effective.

Why, even "ordinary" cyanide ...
The main thing is not to add to cakes with powdered sugar ...

[Albert1988]

Quote: Fan-Fan

Well, for example, although Skripal survived, he became disabled.

Skripal, as they say, is supposed to become "disabled" by age, and he runs there on a treadmill !!!
Julia so generally jumps and flutters!
Well, people don't look like that after a "newbie". don't look!
Kivelidi died a day later and no one could do anything at all, while his 30-year-old secretary, who received a dose after Kivelidi for several hours, died even earlier ...

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

I heard that even the doctor who put it on him received a lethal dose, I don't know if it's true!

[Kart]

Quote: lexus

It is not for nothing that the "yoke" has been zeroed out and is hiding behind "guarantees." He senses a "furry animal".

Yes Yes.
The main thing is not to stop - to repeat this every minute in front of the mirror.

[igaivoro]

You already got it, lovers of "throwing off" .... Throwing off a lot of mind is not necessary. Whom will you put on? The union was also ruined - everything was not enough ... Was life bad? Well, here's the 90s, zero .... Where were you at that time? Personally, I survived with my family while serving in the ranks of the PV in the Caucasus. What is missing now ?! Again, damn confusion is raised. Not tired? Can we live quietly already? Life is one and ends quickly. Work, earn, enjoy life.

[kotvov]

The union was also ruined - all that was not enough .. ,,
Did you live then? If you ask such questions, then the suspicion arises that you are from the "holy 90s".

[igaivoro]

under the Soviet Union, he went on an urgent call to the 41st Nakhichevan Border Detachment ... something like that ..

[kotvov]

Well, why are you asking such questions then? Who destroyed the Union, aren't they the ones who are in the Kremlin now? You personally ruined it, why write that it seems we ruined it, not the top?

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

Did you live then? If you ask such questions, then the suspicion arises that you are from the "holy 90s".

I lived exactly then and completely agree with comrade igaivoro !!!

[kotvov]

And I don't agree. Are you satisfied or further explain?

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

Are you satisfied or further explain?

It would be nice

[kotvov]

... What is missing now ?! Again, damn confusion is raised. Not tired? ,,
If you think that everything is smooth and correct in the country, then you cannot be explained. If you see that there is corruption, kumostvo and lawlessness in the country, then it makes sense to talk about something. There is such a concept-tendency, plunder of the country and degradation. So I have been observing them for 30 years. And therefore, I do not intend to keep silent about it.

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

If you think that everything is smooth and correct in the country, then you cannot be explained.

No, I do not think that everything is smooth and correct in the country, and moreover, in the history of our country, I do not know of such periods when everything was smooth!

If you see that there is corruption, kumostvo and lawlessness in the country, then it makes sense to talk about something.

So I say, in our years in the kitchens we talked exactly the same thing: nepotism, theft, cronyism, and degradation! Everything is wrong with us, the government is not the same, the party is "rotten", everything must be changed! Well, changed, is it better?
Now only the country has begun to come to life, and here again some muddy the waters !!! Stop breaking the country!

[kotvov]

Now only the country has begun to come to life, and here again some muddy the waters !!! Stop breaking the country! ,,
In what sense are there more billionaires, foreign owners of shipyards? You can see you live in the taiga and you don't know what is going on with the economy, how people are bullied? People like you should be put on a minimum pension or minimum wage, only then you will understand what is really happening, and not what they say from the box.

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

In what sense are there more billionaires, foreign owners of shipyards?

And in my opinion it is you in the information "taiga" you live, and you drove yourself there, and are afraid to go out into the world, like you see only the negative, and not the objective picture of the world, by the way, I was like that in my youth too!
It passes!

People like you should be put on a minimum pension or minimum wage, only then you will understand that in reality

Sorry, of course, but this is just some kind of nonsense!

... and not what they say from the box.

I don't have a drawer, but you definitely need to stay away from it in order to preserve your mental health!

[kotvov]

, by the way, I was like that in my youth too!
It passes! ,,
How old are you, zaslanet and admirer of Putin? I have been retired for 12 years and you will teach me how to perceive reality.

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

How old are you, zaslanet and admirer of Putin?

70th year of release, and I have lived all my life in Russia, so there is no need for insults!

I have been retired for 12 years and you will teach me how to perceive reality.

Who teaches you? To teach a scientist only to spoil, there is such a good saying - "who in his youth was not a rebel has no heart, and who by old age has not become a conservative has no mind"

https://youtu.be/EprWSXEO54U

[kotvov]

Do you think that you have acquired a mind ward? Well, well, scraper, when your children-grandchildren are hit by Putin's argali in a car, I think you will change your mind a little (you can take them both literally and figuratively).

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

No, I don’t think so, and I never said that!

Well, well, the support one, when your children-grandchildren are hit by Putin's argali car, I think you will change your mind a little (

I don’t want to offend you, but how to comment on this abomination, without stopping to non-normative vocabulary, I don’t know, it’s disgusting to continue to communicate with you! I wish you health and good mood!

[kotvov]

Uncle Vanya was blown away? I decided to play around and analyzed evolutionaries (like you).
The current one, indicated above, joined (no, signed up) to the Communist Party of the Soviet Union while still at the institute, when new thinking began and after the bourgeois coup, joined one of the newly created ones (such as Zhirinovsky's party). Continuing to "evolve", in the end, I got into an "edimrosy". Now (grabbing as much as he could carry away), he fights for stability (because questions may arise - where is the good from?). In essence, you are a petty bourgeois and you are in a good mood, I will not recommend you, because now you will flinch every time the bell rings (suddenly they came for you).

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

I didn't pout to be blown away, it just became disgusting to communicate with you, I regret the time spent on the discussion! If I understood from the very beginning that you are so inadequate, then I would not start!
but at the expense of your analysis, (if you're talking about me) everything is by and not even close!

[kotvov]

Do not waste your nerves, look at Putin again and you will feel better. Where is adequate, 17 t. Middle class.

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

No need to worry, I have a lot of nerves to frustrate without you, my wife masterfully copes with this, she is special in this matter.

And let us listen to Putin together since you remember:
"A. Vandenko: About the middle class. Where did you lose? They said there will be more than half.

Vladimir Putin: Listen, do you know what the middle class is? If you think that the middle class is the way people live in France, Germany or the United States, then this is not true.

The middle class is different in every country. There is a corresponding method of the World Bank, it consists in the fact that the middle class is counted by the number of households, people whose income is one and a half times higher than the minimum wage. We have such - the minimum wage is 11, in my opinion, this year, but the average salary is much higher - we have a lot of them, confidently over 280 percent.

Andrei Vandenko: Well then, not middle class, but mediocre class.

Vladimir Putin: Well, you know, we must proceed from reality.

Andrei Vandenko: By means.

Vladimir Putin: Not within our means, but according to the methodology of the World Bank. By means - it is not clear what it is. But according to the method of the World Bank, each country has its own middle class. We have it, our task is only to strengthen this middle class.

Andrei Vandenko: Well, after all, I would like it to be like in France, in Germany ...

Vladimir Putin: And increase revenues ...

Andrei Vandenko: Vladimir Vladimirovich ...

Vladimir Putin: I would not like it like in France.

Andrei Vandenko: Would you like to?

Vladimir Putin: Well, look what is happening there, what good is it? These performances go on without stopping, right? Entire sectors of the economy are not working. During these riots, 11 people died, many were injured, their eyes were gouged out by rubber bullets - what good is it? Is this what you want? I think no."

Where is 17 thousand here?

[kotvov]

I repeat, calm down and do not watch patriotic programs. You just don't understand what kind of ... your Putin has dragged the country. If not you and me, then the descendant will see what will turn out for Russia, his rowing on "galleys". Today he says one thing, and tomorrow, quite another. Listen to him, plunge into the abyss of irritating thoughts. But you can see piously believe, here he is, the savior. Believe me, it is somehow the same to me.

[Uncle Vanya Susanin]

I repeat, I am completely calm, but if you specifically see some kind of well around ... then perhaps you are in it (I do not want to offend you, this is just logic), personally I see something else, I see the development and strengthening of the country , but problems have been and will be, they just need to be solved !!!

But you can see piously believe, here he is, the savior. Believe me, it is somehow the same to me.

No, I believe that he is a president, and a good president, no more and no less
All the best!

[kotvov]

Believe in the devil, but he's good for Chubais with Millers and Grefs.

[igaivoro]

Talk - do not roll bags)). You can talk about anything, but from each iron squealing that "down with power" and all that - this is utter idiocy. Look at the Ruin - everything is the same. It has not yet reached that beyond the hill, they are just waiting for you to trample on the barricades, and then they will feed you with whip packets from humanitarian aid. No one offers anything efficient. To demolish everything, destroy, down with, etc. And then what ?! It is necessary to evolve and not to revolutionize. I hope the meaning has conveyed.

[kotvov]

It is necessary to evolve and not to revolutionize. ,,
A little more and there will be no one to evolve. There will remain Putin and Chubais and a few security guards, like you.

[Sergej1972]

What positions did they hold in 90-91? Putin, Ivanov, Medvedev, Mishustin, Shoigu, current federal masters? How could they destroy the Union?

[Paul Siebert]

Quote: Sergej1972

What positions did they hold in 90-91? Putin, Ivanov, Medvedev, Mishustin, Shoigu, current federal masters? How could they destroy the Union?

I don't know about the others, but Shoigu was present in Belovezhie ...
You won’t throw words out of a song.
Historical fact.

[kotvov]

They are one of ... Who rushed into the arms of the Sobchak, isn't it Putin? And take an interest, who issued weapons in 93, to protect Yeltsin?

[depressant]

Alexey, good evening!)))
The topic interested me. I specifically looked to see if it makes sense to redirect the Dnieper to a different channel in the Smolensk region.
No, it doesn't.
It is possible to block the Dnieper, but it is quite difficult to build a canal for transferring water to the tributary of the Oka Zhizdra. The distance between the rivers is not very significant - about 150 km, but the terrain is hilly, it will not work to build a direct canal, and pumping stations will be needed in some places.
Moreover, the Dnieper will have to be blocked below Smolensk so as not to leave the regional center without water. And this is another hundred kilometers. But, most importantly, Belarus will remain without the Dnieper water right up to Orsha, which is unacceptable.
Moreover, Ukraine will not be able to "annoy", since the water consumption in the Dnieper near Smolensk is about 7% of the water consumption in the Kiev region. The Dnieper receives the bulk of its water volume from tributaries in the territory of Belarus and Ukraine.
To provide Crimea with water, it is necessary to look for not a populist, but a real solution.
So I think: what kind of politicians we have - they don't teach materiel!

[Xenofont]

People more serious than Zhirik proposed to divert the Desna near the border with Sumeria, but the channel to the Don is 700 kilometers away. And without the Desna, the Dnieper is over.

[Lexus]

And put putriots along the bank of the allotment. Let them drink until they burst. You won't have to wait long. It would be nice to explore the drainage basin of the Dnieper. Pripyat, at least.

[Dodikson]

so the real American chick broke through.
change ava and do not disgrace the flag of the USSR, we all know that people like you hate it.

[Kart]

Yes, this one is more like a descendant of the ancient Sumerian.

[Dodikson]

and they and the State Department more and more often pretend to be supporters of the USSR, it's just a way to throw up at the current government, and at the same time they would not be accused of treason. but often they break through pro-Westernism and this they are scorched by the fact that they have nothing to do with the USSR at all.

[Kart]

Yes, they are scorching to their full height - but there is no factual evidence from where they actually write.
There are of course methods ... but they don't always work.
Well, so, logically - they write in normal Russian while furious Russophobes. That is, from the near abroad, most likely from the former Ukraine, or former "compatriots" know what nationality.
There are, of course, about 1% of all sorts of frostbitten pseudo-communists and Yabloko, but there is no difference - he is Russophobe and Russophobe in Africa.

[Dodikson]

they are mostly fired on hatred of Putin.
they hate Stalin, but he is not in power, and therefore you can sing praises to him in words, but they will remove Putin from power, oh, right, so they will be in his direction for any reason.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Carte

Yes, they are scorching to their full height - but there is no factual evidence from where they actually write.

Lexus from Ryazan. Maybe it's better to chase the shizu off with slippers?

[depressant]

I support, colleague Mordvin 3.
Here is an example of "shiza".
Kommersant, December 23, 2020:

Deputies of two rural settlements of the Ulyanovsk region refused to accept the budget for 2021. According to them, all the money goes to support local officials who do not want to reduce their salaries or refuse a personal driver. In response, Governor Sergei Morozov threatened to disperse the village councils through the courts. According to experts, the regional authorities were not ready for a demarche, but they have no right to apply sanctions to deputies.

Ulyanovsk Governor Sergei Morozov on Monday instructed his subordinates through the prosecutor's office to put pressure on the deputies of two rural settlements who refused to accept the municipal budget for 2021. According to the governor, they "played into politics": "No one is going to give money just like that, this is not a private shop," and the head of the state-legal department of the administration, Aleksey Preobrazhensky, said that the actions of the village councils were "a failure to comply with federal legislation." If the deputies do not accept the budget, the councils can be dissolved through the courts, the official stressed.

And not a penny for the primary needs of the settlements!
We are talking about Yasashnotashlinsky and Krasnoborsky rural settlements of Terengulsky district, where 2,5 thousand and 1,5 thousand people live, respectively. The head of the first Natalya Gerasimova (she also heads the village council) explained to Kommersant that the budget of the settlement is planned at 2,7 million rubles. and if adopted, it will be entirely supported by local officials.
According to the head of the rural settlement, 600 thousand rubles. will receive the head of the village administration, another 800 thousand rubles - a specialist, accountant, economist, driver and cleaner. The rest of the money will go to the salaries of cultural officials.

Well yes. And the fact that the roads are gouged and the same cultural institutions are shabby, the rest - for the hinterland and so will come down!

[Xenofont]

Instead of invectives addressed to patriots, you should read the articles of the Krajina hydrologists on this topic, and then remember Pripyat. The Dnieper, even without any radical measures on our part, has become shallow to the point, including because of the barbaric extraction of sand and uncontrolled withdrawal of water. However, like Don. And climate change is contributing.

[bootlegger]

Desna is about 20% of the Dnieper. It falls after Kiev. The absence dehydrates the entire part of Ukraine, which is on the right of the Dnieper on the map.
But this is not the only inflow from our territory. There is, for example, the Seim river.

[bobba94]

The share of the catchment area of ​​the Dnieper basin within Russia is 7,3% of the total catchment area of ​​the Dnieper basin. I will not say anything about Belarus' consent to block the Dnieper river bed and thereby lose its main waterway ...

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: bobba94

The share of the catchment area of ​​the Dnieper basin within Russia is 7,3% of the total catchment area of ​​the Dnieper basin. I will not say anything about Belarus' consent to block the Dnieper river bed and thereby lose its main waterway ...

I wonder how perfectly normal people can seriously discuss the stupidest idea?

[hydrox]

Do not be surprised: this is why they are gathering here, and they are completely unaware that the restoration of Novorossia in the Catherine's borders in the form of the South-Western Federal District removes the problem of water for Crimea ONCE AND FOREVER.
But then they have no reason to open their mouths ...

[hydrox]

BUT!
Only in one case: if, by the time Novorossia is incorporated into Russia, it finally reaches Putin's power that the Russian population does not need peace and "agreements" with the liberators, but the establishment of popular capitalism as a transitional form of managing the country's economy, nationalization of what was stolen from good people and punishment by confiscation of ALL AUTHORITIES THIEFS involved in privatization and made their billions on it.
This procedure for admitting new members will save the political situation in the country from an explosion of popular indignation associated with further impoverishment.

[depressant]

Colleague hydrox, I'm afraid it won't work. Skipping the stage of popular capitalism, strangling small and medium-sized enterprises in every possible way, thereby completely suppressing the initiative of our talented people, at the moment, a sharp transition to state capitalism is underway, which is based on a new redistribution of the property taken from all of us to natural resources and to the remains of not yet to the end of the destroyed Soviet industry. The reasons for this phenomenon should be discussed in detail in another topic. It makes sense to mention only that at the moment of this transition the former thieves' bureaucracy, sensing that in the new conditions it might not come to court, is tearing its claws to the West.
Here's an example.

A TASS source said that “the wife of the ex-official Elena Postrigan, the ex-head of the registration chamber of the Klinsky district, her sister Irina Ermoshkina, who was her deputy, her nephew Vadim Ermoshkin, son-in-law Valery Arakelov, and the son of the convict are on the international wanted list. Valery, who is awaiting extradition from Spain to Russia ”.
Among the charges against them in a new criminal case, the source named misappropriation and embezzlement, money laundering, large-scale fraud and participation in an organized criminal community.
Arakelov's property was arrested in the amount of almost 500 million rubles. The damage that Postrigan's family inflicted on the state is estimated at about 10 billion rubles.

These are the people who lead us. Either they steal or take care of maintaining their own political status. Will worthy thoughts of the welfare of the people they feed visit them, and even more so will worthy actions follow? I doubt it very much.

And I always have a question: who advised in 2014 the strange faking of the referendum in Donbass? Who is the author? After all, we annexed Donbass then, we would have received a powerful, undisturbed industry and a professionally trained population attached to it. And there would be no such horrific sacrifices and a stream of disappointments.

[hydrox]

Quote: depressant

Skipping the stage of people's capitalism, strangling small and medium-sized enterprises in every possible way, thereby completely suppressing the initiative of our talented people, at the moment, a sharp transition to state capitalism is being carried out,

This, colleague, has long been like salt on a wound ...
After all, it is and only through the form of people's capitalism that we could get in these 30 thieves' years cadres of leaders, and not thieves in the square from the former "red directors" by the "zone" filtering method.
And the leaders from among the modern graduates - the humanities - are just a mockery of common sense, they are thieves in the cube, accustomed to stealing with the milk of their liberal mother ...
But the modern form of power with an archaic form of economy is a large enterprise for the reproduction of an army of "tonsured" and rural bandits from Kushchevka - workers of a different form of labor and with productive labor skills are not produced in Russia now - see countless talk shows on TV (even on state channels, rarely which button reproduces a dialogue, and not an endless banter of "60 minutes")

[hydrox]

I can’t say anything on this topic: Donbass, as it stood "at odds" then, is still standing (apparently, they are waiting for Surkov (or you know who a piece of political will is expressed)).
I think that by spring we may already be indifferent to the wording of the referendum, but Russia is still obliged to give Donbass the foundations of power, protectorate and the outline of the future Constitution, so that people understand their mistakes (especially correctable mistakes!) And what they will get as a result of entering Russia, but how to make the people in Donbass understand that they can live not in a blanket of theft and in bottleneck beads, but in a community of their co-EMPLOYEES and creators.

[Arpad]

Quote: depressant

does it make sense to redirect the Dnieper in a different direction in the Smolensk region.
No, it doesn't.

it is neither realistic from the point of view of international law.
It is forbidden to change the natural channels of rivers and redirect water flows in rivers flowing through the territory of other states.

Quote: depressant

But, most importantly, Belarus will remain without the Dnieper water right up to Orsha, which is unacceptable.

and Ukraine-like permissible?

Quote: depressant

To provide Crimea with water, it is necessary to look for not a populist, but a real solution.

only desalination.

[Kart]

Quote: Arpad

It is forbidden to change the natural channels of rivers and redirect water flows in rivers flowing through the territory of other states.

Ukraine has built a dam and no bans work.

Quote: Arpad

and Ukraine-like permissible?

Like yes. Exactly for the same reasons for which they are trying to deprive the Crimea of ​​water.

[Arpad]

Quote: Carte

Ukraine has built a dam and no bans work.

The canal is not a natural channel; this law does not apply to artificial hydraulic structures.

[Boris Chernikov]

Well, as I read, there are several options that are implemented and calculated: new water intakes, interception of rivers that flow into the Black Sea, there is some kind of large water lens under the Crimea, where, due to natural conditions, desalination is taking place, well, desalination at CHP / NPP as option

[Kazbek]

To provide Crimea with water, it is necessary to look for not a populist, but a real solution.

The only real solution is forceful. Give an ultimatum, give 48 hours to make a decision. In case of failure - a short force operation and control of the SCC along the entire length! The Israelis could afford to take the Golan by force, which provide 85% of them with fresh water, but what are we ?? Moreover, Ukraine does not need this water, it swamps the Kherson region and creates big problems for them! And we want to bring the situation to a humanitarian catastrophe, and then frantically seek solutions! They are not! Only the return of water from the SKK and the distribution of p ... lei to chubaty thugs !!!

[onstar9]

Quote: Kazbek

The only real solution is forceful. Give an ultimatum, give 48 hours to make a decision. In case of failure - a short force operation and control of the SCC along the entire length! The Israelis could afford to take the Golan by force, which provide 85% of them with fresh water, but what are we ?? Moreover, Ukraine does not need this water, it swamps the Kherson region and creates big problems for them! And we want to bring the situation to a humanitarian catastrophe, and then frantically seek solutions! They are not! Only the return of water from the SKK and the distribution of p ... lei to chubaty thugs !!!

Well, you are a brave guy .... That's when the real "sledges" for Russia will begin. Not only will Nord Stream 2, which Merkel is fighting for, will be "fucked up", but I'm also afraid Germany will begin to implement Trump's plan to reorient the purchase of gas from America and Qatar, instead of Russia. It will be a little more expensive than that of Russia, but what sanctions did without losses ... But Russia, without these wagons of money for gas from Europe, will quickly sit on the "bare stone" .... And Putin understands this very well. All the money of Russia is concentrated with him, and not here with the "sofa experts". The sofa specialists have nothing, so they have nothing to lose. Therefore, they willingly climb into a fight. And Putin and all his "elite" have something to lose ..... They do not want to give up yachts, palaces and villas in Courchevel.

[Boris Chernikov]

and what would you do with Ukraine? besides keeping it at the expense of the citizens of Russia? would you admire the spitting with shouts about "you did not let us into Europe"?

[Kart]

The territory is needed. "Ukrainians" - no.
It's simple.

[Boris Chernikov]

in our country, and so the density is not ice in terms of population + abandoned land is more plowed than in Ukraine + investments in Ukraine are at least 10-15 trillion rubles for a period of 5-8 years ... we don’t have so much extra money, and if would be, then it is better to invest them in Russia, The production of completely Russian smartphones, computers, tablets, etc., etc. costs about 1,2-1,5 trillion rubles ... in other words, there is a choice, in 10-12 years to reach the world level it-powers like China or Japan, or stay at the same level, but with 25 million Ukrainians in liabilities .. If we want a result, we need to invest in Russia creating new jobs for Russian citizens, And not to create poverty

[Kart]

It 'warm over there. The production of Russian smartphones is cheaper to deploy there.
And the local population is not needed. It's no use to him, they won't work.
On the contrary, our own population lives partly in the Arctic Circle, which is inconvenient.
Better to live further south. Healthier.

[Boris Chernikov]

taking into account that there is global warming, I would not want to live further south, precisely because of health

[Cool but not Igor]

I agree completely. I myself have been saying for many years that it was necessary to solve everything in 2014 without delaying and I do not understand why they were afraid. Just remind me who this uncle from Switzerland is, what I can't remember?

[Vadim237]

Then it is easier to conduct a water supply system from the Krasnodar Territory to Crimea of ​​cubic meters per billion of water per year.

[HUNTERDON]

The south of Russia was already having a hard time with water. One Don is worth it with shallowness.

[Xenofont]

Where to get water? Don and Kuban are not very deep now. Runoffs have greatly decreased in recent years. And the Kuban is the breadbasket of Russia.

[Vadim237]

The solution has already been found.

[Boris Chernikov]

financial question for example?

[Sergej1972]

Do not exaggerate the role of this uncle. Former President of Switzerland. Swiss presidents change annually, elected from the 7-member Federal Council, elected by parliament for 5 years, and which is the de facto collegial president of the country and at the same time the government.

[Dodikson]

it is good that the Kremlin has more literate and reasonable people than semi-literate commentators from the topvar.
if ours acted in 2014 as the American provocateurs wanted,
then we would now have 40 million freeloaders vehemently hating us, but having all the civil rights of the Russian Federation, and who, with their coup d'etat attempts in the Russian Federation, would have already gotten the entire population of Russia.
by the way, the retirement age was raised because of the ruins. because in 5-7 years on the neck of our pension fund a couple of tens of millions of pence ruins will climb.

[Cool but not Igor]

You think narrowly, and that's why you repeat the scenario, which has long set your teeth on edge! Whoever they are in Russia would not include nafig they are needed. Simply, at the agreed request of Yanyk, they would have introduced OMON, Grushnikov, FSBshnikov and tied up the entire Bandera elite paid for by the West, even the army would not have been needed! And the possible loss of personnel is in no way comparable to how much grief has already been and the people died. In a week, if not earlier, the siloviki leave after restoring the vertical of power to Yanukovych, and he would have made Ukraine truly pro-Russian by 100% manual! Here's what the script would be correct, of course, it was crumpled, but the comment is too big.

[Dodikson]

if you did so, you would receive 40 million 404 citizens who vehemently hate us who would consider that now the oaths of the Muscovites are to blame for all their troubles, because they took away the European dream, European salaries, European roads, leaving them with Moscow corruption and nepotism.
now they would be to blame for everything bad, and all the good that could have been taken from them by the same matskali.
ours did everything right - let them sip European life with a full spoon. when they gorge themselves on all fours, they will crawl to us as they have crawled more than once before

[Cool but not Igor]

Firstly, a certain part of the people wanted to go to Europe, but not all 35-40 million. Secondly, in the absence of a significant part of the Bandera elite, the propaganda brainwashing the people would have stopped! And the part that vehemently hates Russia at first would have its tail between its legs and would have calmed down for so many years without recharge. Today, in their opinion, we have taken away Crimea, Donbass, and they HATE us SO THAT, propaganda continues to brainwash them, Russian is excluded from regional languages ​​+ they are fed by US weapons and they shit selling cruise missile engines to our age-old enemy Turkey. It would be more profitable for us to have a pro-Russian country with a part of society that hates us than a state completely opposed to us at the very borders, fueled by the West to confront us. Not to mention how much we had to spend on import substitution from them in a short time in many industries in such a difficult time!

[Dodikson]

all 35-45 million citizens of 404 wanted to go to Europe, another thing is that not everyone wanted to get it through a coup and Bandera.
and yes, there are 10-15 million of those who remember history, remember kinship, but just like the Russian Baltic states, they would calmly change all this to the European standard of living. but I repeat - without war, deaths and Bandera power. but at that time no one showed that Bandera would rule under the leadership of those whom Bandera destroyed by pogroms.
and they believed that they were about to enter Ivroppa and how they would heal ...
and now they can hate us for the Crimea, for the Donbass, for the hryvnia exchange rate, we don't give a damn about them at all, since ours have taken a course for starvation, kakly now not on promises from the podium, but in real life, they will see what sweet stories are worth Europeans, on their own skin, will be convinced of how they are expected and loved there, and when their country plunges into the Middle Ages, only then will the cry "God, why are you so with us?" only then the mind will begin to return to the kaklam. and only at that moment you can start some kind of dialogue with them. and before that scream, whatever you do, they will not appreciate but will eat your bread and butter and claim that you robbed and devoured them.

[Cool but not Igor]

When I was in Odessa, I saw the situation in such a way that the majority of the population was moderate even then (and they were even indignant at what Yanyk did not disperse the Maidan), just propaganda showed that all of Ukraine wants to go to Europe, and as zealously as they showed on TV the minority wanted. Apparently, the authorities in Russia also fell for the fact that all of Ukraine is for Europe.
You want to teach kaklov a lesson, but no matter how much the people howl, the oligarchs are tied to bank accounts in the west and will be against Russia as long as they want it in the United States, and the population will simply die out or leave! And if in 2014 ours decided differently, then their industry and their market would be in our sphere of influence from which, in the first place, Russia would be good!

[Dodikson]

to be against maydaun and to be against Europe are not the same thing.

[Alex Justice]

to be against maydaun and to be against Europe are not the same thing.

China and Japan existed perfectly, closing their borders.

[Boris Chernikov]

yeah, they would have taken Yanyk to the next presidency ... aha

[Xenofont]

I agree in the sense that it made sense for the bulk of the outskirts to go through the present humiliating and disenfranchised state, because life is learned in contrasts.

[Kazbek]

Quote: Dodikson

if you did that, you would get 40 million vehemently hating citizens 404

And now isn't it ???

[Arpad]

Quote: Cool but not Igor

In a week, if not earlier, the siloviki leave after restoring the vertical of power to Yanukovych, and he would have made Ukraine truly pro-Russian by 100% manual!

It's that simple.

[Cool but not Igor]

Do you see any interfering factors? With Lukashenka, we decided, having prepared the OMON, to keep him in power! Apparently we are learning by the method of a fried rooster pecking in the ass!

[Dodikson]

in the case of the bow, we did not have such a pro-Western population.

[Sergej1972]

I partially agree. But not all of the 40 million inhabitants of Ukraine were anti-Russian then and now.

[krops777]

It’s better not to talk now, but to act in 2014. But the "uncle" came from Switzerland, threatened the crooks with the seizure of the loot, and zealous patriotism finally slipped into vile putriotism.

Some strange "uncle" from Switzerland in one place threatens in another, he allows it, he gave the Crimea and drowns the rest of Ukraine, but what are we still a nuclear power, we have developed a hypersonic weapon to kick this uncle in the head if that, and he cannot take away all the loot.

[Kart]

So he is one of those who breaks the more the better we have. Sometimes it just turns into a hysteria.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: lexus

We should not talk now, but act in 2014. But the "uncle" came from Switzerland, threatened the crooks with the seizure of the loot, and zealous patriotism finally slipped into vile putriotism. The "Finishers" filled their pants and continued to plunder the inhabitants.

Are you calling for no need to correct mistakes (the consequences of betrayal)?

[Sergej1972]

Why are you demonizing the retired Swiss president so much?). By the way, they change annually.

[Svarog]

Quote: Bearded

This is not an option. Russia needs all of Ukraine.

I definitely agree. The time of turmoil has been going on for 30 years and, apparently, will end soon. We need all of Ukraine .. well, maybe with the exception of the western one.

[Lexus]

Dear Vladimir ,
my mother was born in Western Ukraine. There was a real Russian Woman. I am categorically against the surrender of people and land to the enemies. There are few marginals. They themselves will run away.

[Svarog]

Quote: lexus

Dear Vladimir ,
my mother was born in Western Ukraine. There was a real Russian Woman. I am categorically against the surrender of people and land to the enemies. There are few marginals. They themselves will run away.

Alexey My wife's mother was also born there. But, as I see it, all the dregs go from there ... although, of course, there is another option, just to evict the mudnares ... and leave the territory

[Lexus]

We have enough of our muddy marginals. I propose to send everyone to Siberia. Let the taiga, sawn and sold by crooks and thieves, be restored. If they gnaw each other's throats there, we will not become orphaned.

[Svarog]

Quote: lexus

We have enough of our muddy marginals. I propose to send everyone to Siberia. Let the taiga, sawn and sold by crooks and thieves, be restored. If they gnaw each other's throats there, we will not become orphaned.

Our own, plus Ukrainian ones .. here is the potential for explosive economic growth ..

[Lexus]

In addition to their farts, you can safely power the Power of Siberia and SP-2.

[Machito]

Quote: lexus

In addition to their farts, you can safely power the Power of Siberia and SP-2.

Bandera, squeeze closer to the toilet - do not allow gas leaks. Who did not fart - that Moskal

[Lexus]

If we connect the Urya Skakuas, we can save the taiga and the Amazonian forests.

[Kart]

These are the ones who were jumping around on the Maidan with pans on their heads?
So they are already connected.
Maybe well, her nafig, this taiga? Maybe a new sea is better?

[Kazbek]

Let the taiga, sawn and sold by crooks and thieves, be restored

I agree! Their grandfathers-traitors sawed this taiga, and these naiha planted !!!

[Sergej1972]

Eviction is not allowed. This is the same as the calls of Ukrainian nationalists to evict the pro-Russian population of Donbass. I don't see the difference. The world community, to put it mildly, will react negatively to this. And, as I think, not only the countries of the collective West, but also the elite and the population of many states friendly to Russia. We'll have to deal with those people who live in this or that territory. No matter how we treat the Western Carpathians, they live on their own land, there are the graves of their ancestors. If the population of a particular region, for the most part, does not want to be part of Russia, you should not do it. Although it should not be overlooked from the sphere of influence. Both allied and confederal relations are possible. Or the preservation of independence, but with normal relations with Russia.

[Arpad]

Quote: lexus

Dear Vladimir ,
my mother was born in Western Ukraine. There was a real Russian Woman. I am categorically against the surrender of people and land to the enemies.

so the machine in hand and forward. Against - act.

[Boris Chernikov]

toto in the Western region in the 60s there were toasts for Bandera ..

[your1970]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Bearded

This is not an option. Russia needs all of Ukraine.

I definitely agree. The time of turmoil has been going on for 30 years and, apparently, will end soon. We need all of Ukraine .. well, maybe with the exception of the western one.

and beyond? 50% are Westerners, Bandera and others who hate Russia with every fiber of their soul, 30% who like to work in Europe, out of the remaining 20, moyahataskrai and migrant workers ...
And what to do with them? Hang up in the squares of Bandera? ALL the state apparatus up to the level of cleaning ladies, inclusive? to drive out the police, army, bezpeko and get a couple of million more who hate the Russian Federation?
Who should replace all this? Where to get personnel for this business?

It is naive to believe that here we will put Turchinov / Yarosh / Kolomoisky and other odious things - and immediately grace will come. It will not come ... under more favorable post-war conditions (when it was possible to resolve issues by force) - 10 years later, Bandera still shit with might and main

[Svarog]

Quote: your1970

It’s a good idea to believe that we will put Turchinov / Yarosh / Kolomoisky and other odious things in prison - and grace will come right away

It will not come right away .. it will not come at all until we have statesmen in power .. and while we live according to the laws of the West.
And technically, the special services know very well how to change the government and set up society .. Well, today's people probably forgot .. they earn money .. But the KGB did not need to teach this ..

[your1970]

Quote: Svarog

But the KGB didn't need to teach this.

are you sure? where then the USSR? Judging by its absence - they should not be taught - they had to be shot so that the crows would not be caught ...
well, let's say we overthrew the power there ... let's say ...
Do you have people ready to go there and replace local officials - all without exception? Replace the entire police and army? People ready to the fact that they will not be "misunderstood", they will spit in the face and shoot from around the corner?
locals should not be allowed even to the minimum level of power - otherwise there will be such a circus with pretzels that we will not shake things up in a hundred years. And this will lead in turn to the fact that even relatively loyal to Russia people will hiss through their teeth "Occupants !!"
Even under the conditions of the 40-50s - when it was possible to hang a Bandera soldier on the square as an enemy of the people, and to scratch the forests with divisions - it was not possible to destroy them.
And now ... a kilo of bucks (and sponsors will stand in line !!) and all issues can be resolved, 2 kilos - he is not Pravosek at all, 100 kilos - and he will sit as mayor of the district in Kiev
In small Chechnya, attempts of militants to break through to somewhere still periodically flash in the news ... and Ukraine is much more ...
But even the devil would be with them with the Bandera-we will shoot them all ...
And what to do with the country? They owe everyone - the debts will go to us, the sanctions will go to us, there is practically no industry left there, it will be necessary to think about unemployment, any strictness of government will dramatically increase the discontent of the population ...

[Serg koma]

Quote: Cool but not Igor

Simply, at the agreed request of Yanyk, they would have introduced OMON, Grushnikov, FSBshnikov and tied up the entire Bandera elite paid for by the West, even the army would not have had to be introduced!

Quote: your1970

Naive to believethat here we put Turchinov / Yarosh / Kolomoisky and other odious things - and immediately the grace will come.

Why plant / tie "Turchinov / Yarosh / Kolomoisky" (considered as a subtype of opportunists of any time and order)?
Turchinov -

In 1987-1990 - secretary of the district committee of the Komsomol, then - head of the department of agitation and propaganda of the Dnepropetrovsk regional committee of the Komsomol.

Yarosh -

In 1989-1991, he served in the ranks of the Soviet Army: served in the strategic missile forces

Kolomoisky -

A graduate of the 21st secondary school in Dnepropetrovsk, was awarded the badge of the Central Committee of the Komsomol "For excellent studies", received the first sports category in chess

Poroshenko -

until 1990 he studied in graduate school and worked as an assistant at the Department of International Economic Relations of the Taras Shevchenko University of Kyiv

Timoshenko Yu.V. -

In 1984-1988 she worked as an engineer-economist at the Dneprovsk machine-building plant named after. Lenin (DMZ) in Dnepropetrovsk.

All "white and fluffy", there is nothing to plant / knit.

[Incvizitor]

well, maybe with the exception

local galloping contingent, but if all of them are whipped up, the western howl will begin and the powers that be will not agree to this.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Bearded

This is not an option. Russia needs all of Ukraine. History

I need it. But, it won't hurt to cut into the dam! It's like a fist on the table. It even helps! Remind who is the boss in our land!

[XXXIII]

Quote: 30 vis

Quote: Bearded

This is not an option. Russia needs all of Ukraine. History

I need it. But, it won't hurt to cut into the dam! It's like a fist on the table. It even helps! Remind who is the boss in our land!

There are many solutions, for example the simplest, the rocket went off course and hit right into the dam. It happens that these are Russian missiles, they hit the target even when they go astray.

[Avior]

This dam will be restored in two weeks, it makes no sense
There are still pumping stations on the canal, it does not go by gravity

[XXXIII]

Quote: Avior

This dam will be restored in two weeks, it makes no sense
There are still pumping stations on the canal, it does not go by gravity

Then nafig rested on this channel, bury it back with missiles.))

[Avior]

what for? on it and so the water does not go.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Avior

This dam will be restored in two weeks, it makes no sense
There are still pumping stations on the canal, it does not go by gravity

The dam will be restored. But the sediment will remain! Will be subss ... afraid !!!! for a long time. Well, how a bee flies through the window to the main window!

[Avior]

If you shoot missiles at the territory of a neighboring state, the "sediment" will be awesome. Delegations can be sent to share life experiences with North Korea.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Avior

If you shoot missiles at the territory of a neighboring state, the "sediment" will be awesome. Delegations can be sent to share life experiences with North Korea.

Nevertheless, Israel x..Figures on someone else's territory, mom, do not cry! And he doesn’t. They wrestled the Golan Heights from Syria. Because water is necessary for people living in Israel. And they did not sneeze in thought .. So, who is sending delegations to exchange experience in North Korea? That's it! So there is a precedent, so you can? And if you can, then you need to !!!

[Avior]

so so precedent
1.Syria attacked Israel in 1948, after that it has attacked several times and is still at war with it
2. Syria refuses to recognize Israel's right to exist and does not recognize its documents and has no diplomatic relations
3. Syria is not in Europe, but in the East.
enough, in my opinion ....

[Xnumx vis]

Of course, of course ... This is different! This is possible, but this is not possible!

[Rustic i ......]

Hmm, the word Europa should be pronounced with aspiration and with the greatest respect in the voice, because Russia is not Eastern Europe, but Western Asia and vicious aggressors, both for Ukraine and for all European countries. And these countries call on each other to talk with Russia only from a "position of strength" and through eternal sanctions and through clenched teeth. Maybe it's time for the "polar bear" to brush off fleas and mosquitoes and show who xy is xy and what it is worth. And then some empty talk, well, just the club of "pike vests" and finally break this fucking dam and show Ukraine the "red lines" that should not be crossed.

[your1970]

Quote: 30 vis

It's like a fist on the table. It even helps! Remind who is the boss in our land!

There was an acquaintance in the 80s - he was very fond of knocking on the table with his fist drunk - they say he is in charge here ... He shook his wife ...
Once he hit the chair with his fist, and his wife silently over the head with a frying pan ... ..... Cast iron .. Heavy ..... ..
I got into witnesses by chance then ...
The frying pan even burst from the blow ...
She was 5 years old, he was 10 years old then he was lying in some kind of hospital - her arms and legs were taken away, the brain went for a walk ...

I'm not hinting at anything - but there are 404 wagons in the country and another 2-3 million ...
Should we build fences around kindergartens and plant machine gunners on towers ?? ?? !!!!

Siberia is enough for us for 5-10 million prisoners from Ukraine - those who sincerely hate, pravosek, terrorist battalions, volunteers, police, SBU, officers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, officials of all levels?
And this is not a joke - it will automatically squeeze us if we enter the territory of Ukraine ...

[Kronos]

You can safely forget about all of Ukraine.

[Oleg Kievlyanin]

Not an option, there the people are poisoned, we will get the 5th column, let them boil and die, I do not mind answering the question before the pandemic, Muscovites were taken out in everything.

[vik669]

Yes, there are other options for missiles - so that you don't even think anymore ...!

[halpat]

An excellent option, I would say
And with the vaccine for the residents of Crimea and Donbass, everything is also clear.
We need to cash in on the vaccine a little. Sell ​​under the counter.
It will be so, but Crimea and Donbass will turn out to be fatter.

[Rustic i ......]

To make it "fatter" it is necessary to abolish the moratorium on the death penalty on the territory of Russia, and do not take the example of FIG in everything from Europe. We are different with Europeans, albeit not very civilized, but as a rule, in our affairs it is more honest. Just don't be naive. Lost self-esteem. And they began to talk a lot, like Gorbachev, and to admit, Putin began to abuse it. He turned over the operation with the Crimea and dozed off on old merits, as the people say. Hey !! Stop sleeping! "Mother - mother - mother" - the usual echo answered.

[New Year day]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Option.

not an option. Near Dzhankoy, the North Crimean canal was destroyed - plates were stolen.

Even under Ukraine, water losses in the NCC were up to 30-40%. If water is supplied to bare ground, then the losses will be much higher

[Lexus]

They, the slabs, according to the Dazdraputs, "lay badly." And to return at our expense, therefore, it is necessary.

[Kart]

And who are these Dazdraputs? And how did they steal the plates from the Ukrainian channel?
This is what everyone knows about skakuas.

[t-12]

stolen plates

How so. Strategic object. Where are the guards?

[Kart]

Yes, here one horse has already written above - some dazdraputs have been stolen. Probably very serious guys - Sumerian protection failed.

[valton]

If something like that had happened to Israel, this dam would have disappeared in a month. This is who you need to learn from, and not wipe yourself off and make excuses to your partners.

[Alex Justice]

Israel has a tough godfather behind its back.

[max702]

Well, for example, the owners of this site in a similar situation squeezed the Golan Heights and are not going to return ... So it's an option ..

[Kart]

This is another!
There they are for everything good, because all around are hostile savages.

[Nirvanko]

To do this, the Kremlin must have eggs and they do not. In 2014, it was possible to resolve the issue of Ukraine once and for all without missiles on dams.

[brother Goronflo]

Moreover, good and correct!

[Alien From]

Don't listen to populists, none!

[XXXIII]

Quote: Alien From

Don't listen to populists, none!

That's right, buy a UAV in Turkey and test it right on the dam. Then say that they were testing Turkish UAVs, but they turned out to be technically defective. And blame everything on Turkey, how is that option?

[Alien From]

For TV balabolov it will go)

[XXXIII]

Quote: Alien From

For TV balabolov it will go)

Who are they, I do not know such ?! Real public sabotage, the nationalists do not have air defense, so everything will go like clockwork.
Do natsukrainians shoot down planes ?! No one is immune from such cases. Iran shot down the plane of the natsukrainians.

[tihonmarine]

At the same time in Ukraine they say that the vaccine "must also be provided to the residents of Donbass and Crimea, since Ukrainians also live there."

The same vaccine, the same type that Nigeria received in the 80s for tuberculosis. The result is very deplorable.

[Nikon O'Conor]

I also thought about it, I'm scared on myself, let's test it on those who are not sorry!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Nikon OConor

I also thought about it, I'm scared on myself, let's test it on those who are not sorry!

I didn't think I saw it. There in Nigeria.

[rocket757]

Such discussions ... in general, it is empty chatter.
Residents of Crimea need to adapt, change their attitude towards water resources.
The authorities will have to change, repair, modernize, and build a lot, a lot, in the entire water sector of the peninsula.
People live in the worst conditions, have learned to act according to the mind, economically.

[ccsr]

Quote: rocket757

Residents of Crimea need to adapt, change their attitude towards water resources.

Quite right, but they are not itching yet, everyone hopes that Moscow will solve all the problems for them.
This topic is familiar to me, because my mother worked in the State Water Inspection of Crimea since the early sixties, and I know everything that happened there firsthand. For example, in the city of Kerch, after the opening of the North Crimean Canal, about 30 wells were poured, and they have not been used until now, although perhaps I am mistaken. So this water was enough for an average city of 150 thousand people, a metallurgical plant, a sinter plant, the Zaliv plant, an iron ore plant and other small things in the form of various factories - pipe foundry, ship repair, etc. , i.e. where water is needed in large quantities. Now these enterprises do not exist, except for the "Zaliv", therefore, to satisfy the city with water at the expense of artesian wells is not a world-class problem - even a child understands this.
Moreover, in Crimea, they have only now taken care of collecting rainwater, although this should have been done five years ago. I don’t know, maybe Putin’s pendal will give an impetus to the development of water production from our own sources, but knowing the mentality of the local public, I think that this process will be delayed, and will go again at the expense of other Russian regions. And the military has already proved it - they did part of the work on the transfer of water for Sevastopol and Simferopol instead of local leaders.

[rocket757]

Sad statistics on water, as well as on civil insurance !!!
I also know the problem, I experienced it on my own skin.
It’s a real disaster when everyone is waiting for a wizard in a blue helicopter, but they don’t want to hit their finger.
Water is a valuable resource, not infinite, but it can be very, very prolonged if used properly.
In reality, many people live better because they save where possible, where necessary.

[Karabin]

Now these enterprises do not exist, except for the "Zaliv", therefore, satisfying the city with water at the expense of artesian wells is not a world-class problem - even a child understands this.

You can solve urban water problems. How to solve water problems for agriculture? Artesian water is not suitable because it leads to soil salinization. You can't transfer such a volume through pipes. It remains only to either decide with the Dnieper water, or radically change the structure of the agricultural sector.

[Lexus]

Yuri, my compliments .
In a sunny region, solving problems with desalination is not an issue. Only for the Zaputins, the first thing to do is whine and curse sanctions. They themselves did not create anything. Bridge? Such were introduced in the USSR every year without noise and pathos. Why wasn't "this one" built? There was no need.

[Vadim237]

"They themselves did not create anything." People like you really have not created anything and will not create anything - except whining every day. "Such were introduced in the USSR every year without noise and pathos." Yes, they listed bridges like the Crimean that were introduced in the USSR every year.

[Lexus]

Darling, and when do you manage to create? You are always there. Curry favor with the prize.

[Kart]

Judging by the amicable cry of "everything is gone" and the army of minusers here is your round dances.
Normal people don't have much time. They will come running sometimes, in their free hour.
Here's how to come here in this discussion.

[Vadim237]

Over the past 19 years - until you were on the brake after losing the 90s.

[Lexus]

So what did you create? Language? I don't like talkers.

[Karabin]

Greetings, Alex.
You can solve any question if you solve it, and not wait where the curve will take you. I didn't take it out - they threw the pipes, which of course is not enough for normal development, but for the first time it will do. Then they wait. This is a trick for those in power to sweep the problem under the rug.

[Lexus]

"Swept" - this is just the "concepts". When "clear boys" like "decided".

[t-12]

How to solve water problems for agriculture?

Desalination of sea water. Israel somehow solves this problem. Yes, we have to build a nuclear power plant, so what?

[Arpad]

Quote: t-12

Desalination of sea water. Israel somehow solves this problem. Yes, we have to build a nuclear power plant, so what?

why a nuclear power plant?

[KCA]

A nuclear power plant will have to be built and, moreover, in Crimea itself, Turkey will not let it in from outside, and a conventional nuclear power plant needs such a volume of water that filling the reservoir with such a shortage of water will take tens, if not hundreds of years

[ccsr]

Quote: Karabin

How to solve water problems for agriculture?

I have been to many villages of the Crimea, and wherever there are good business executives, there were always pond farms with fish. Without this, it is impossible there - in the summer it is necessary to drive the cows to the water during the day, both collective and private, otherwise their blow will be enough. So with normal cleaning of dams and lakes, there is enough water in the steppe Crimea for household needs.

Quote: Karabin

Artesian water is not suitable, as it leads to soil salinization.

As a rule, the water that is pumped from levels below sea level leads to soil salinization - these are villages along the Black or Azov Sea. Where the aquifers are above sea level, there is no soil salinity - there is water with a normal salt content, and it is drunk even without purification. There are such springs under the Old Crimea that people come there specially for water, and there is no soil salinity there.

Quote: Karabin

All that remains is either to decide with the Dnieper water, or to radically change the structure of the agricultural sector.

I don't think so, because the Crimean land is like a sponge, and the surrounding water surface of the two seas gives so much fresh water that cities are flooded there every year. I can bring you dozens of photographs with this disaster - all the Crimeans and guests of the peninsula already know this.

[Avior]

The main part of the problem is water for agricultural use, not drinking or household

[Arpad]

Quote: Avior

The main part of the problem is water for agricultural use, not drinking or household

In Israel, 90% of domestic wastewater is treated and sent for irrigation.
Wastewater treatment plants need to be built and desalination stations are a way out.

[KCA]

So bravuraly wrote that they will grow rapeseed, for which there is no need for artificial irrigation

[tihonmarine]

Vladimir Zhirinovsky, who said that the Dnieper is ours and that he made a proposal at the border of the Smolensk region to redirect this river through the water basin of the Don

I do not always agree with Zhirinovsky, but here I agree. He lived in the Smolensk region. and guess where.

[Observer2014]

"It's easier to missile on the dam": on the federal channel discussed the water supply to Crimea cut off by Ukraine

It was easier to turn on the mind. Back in 2014, and don't carry any garbage now. Mlyn's strategies are unfinished. Who was in the way then!? Fear of your own correct decisions? Apparently yes. Plus a bunch of people blowing in the ears, "wait a minute or two," Let's discuss now what kind of strategists you can and could be.

[Land defence]

Quote: Observer2014

It was easier to turn on the mind. Back in 2014

There was a lot that could have been done then, but the time has passed. We need to proceed from the current situation. And about "zhakh on the dam" of course nonsense

[Evil Booth]

Well, justify eprhlsta and what did the KGB and MGB of the USSR overlook in the 82nd in the 51st? and in the 90th when separatism began, not on the American but on their own ukrosibiryak Lithuanian Tajiks, oh, lizhba is not a Soviet one. is that where they were? and what would not have brought Lenin RI to civil and would be the second world?

[your1970]

Quote: Observer2014

It was easier to turn on the mind. Back in 2014, and not carry any garbage now.

- one single question - how often do Ukrainian residents slaughter soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine at night, poison their food and burn warehouses?
no, not often? do not burn / poison?
What kind of "turning on the mind in 2014" can we talk about - if, as a result, at least the local population would consider Russia an occupier?
In the middle of Russia sits at work at my muff and whines: "You took away Crimea from us!" - "Well, declare war on us and take him back!" - "Then we will have nowhere to work! But you are still invaders !!" - "................... ....................................... "

[samarin1969]

The leader of the parliamentary party has famously "solved" another problem.

[Glennie]

And not an option to google why the water was cut off?
APRIL 2014
CRIMEAN DEBTS AND MINIMUM OF WATER
The first problems with water in Crimea appeared in April 2014. At this time, on the peninsula, they usually prepared for the start of the irrigation season and waited for the arrival of water in the North Crimean Canal. At that time, its main capacities were under the control of the Russian authorities. However, in 2014, only part of the Dnieper water reached Crimea. On April 14, at that time, the first vice-premier of the Russian government of Crimea, Rustam Temirgaliev, said that water supplies to Crimea were "cut by about three times by the decision of Kiev." The then acting deputy head of the presidential administration of Ukraine, Andriy Senchenko, explained this to Krym.Realii by the presence of a debt of Crimean water users for pumping water into the North Crimean Canal in 2013 in the amount of 1,7 million hryvnias. Despite the debt, the Dnieper water was supplied to Crimea in March 2014. The Russian authorities of Crimea, according to Andrey Senchenko, had to debug the pumping stations, pay for pumping water and conclude a supply agreement for 2014.
https://ru.krymr.com/a/voda-v-krymu-hronologiya/30842716.html

[Vadim Zhivov]

And where do you find such smart ones ????

[Glennie]

You just had to study well.

[Vadim Zhivov]

Dear, yes, your fellow tribesmen are yelling themselves, we will not let you open. With electricity to remind what they did. You studied well so you can find the photos yourself.

[Glennie]

Still they did not find the official chronicle of events in Crimea by day, but it is. Just find and read.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Glenni

The Russian authorities of Crimea, according to Andrey Senchenko, had to debug the pumping stations, pay for pumping water and conclude a supply agreement for 2014.
https://ru.krymr.com/a/voda-v-krymu-hronologiya/30842716.html

And then you don’t want to continue, tell us how they tried to negotiate with your certificates about the payment system. So what !?

[onstar9]

Quote: 30 vis

And then you don’t want to continue, tell us how they tried to negotiate with your certificates about the payment system. So what !?

So then they "tried" to come to an agreement when it was too late. I also remember this moment when the Crimeans did not even want to pay for water. Before that, everything was calm and no one in Ukraine thought about the water "blockade". And then ... they themselves submitted the idea to the Ukrainian elite by their non-payments, and then they already politically promoted this business ... Later, of course, they offered three prices, but it was too late. In Ukraine, they saw this opportunity to "squeeze" Russia ... And consider it successful. Russia is screaming, but it cannot resolve this issue.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: onstar9

Quote: 30 vis

And then you don’t want to continue, tell us how they tried to negotiate with your certificates about the payment system. So what !?

So then they "tried" to come to an agreement when it was too late. I also remember this moment when the Crimeans did not even want to pay for water. Before that, everything was calm and no one in Ukraine thought about the water "blockade". And then ... they themselves submitted the idea to the Ukrainian elite by their non-payments, and then they already politically promoted this business ... Later, of course, they offered three prices, but it was too late. In Ukraine, they saw this opportunity to "squeeze" Russia ... And consider it successful. Russia is screaming, but it cannot resolve this issue.

Russia is not yelling. Russia will resolve this issue! Little does not seem to all Svido figures. It's a matter of time .. As the saying goes - "How many rope does not hang, but the end will be found!"

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Glenni

CRIMEAN DEBTS AND MINIMUM OF WATER

Funny or stupid.

[sabakina]

No, I'm stupidly interested. Their DRGs wander around our territory, as they want, and our DRG cannot mine this dam .... But when that very Kuge in Belarus was liquidated. I understand politics and all that ... But still ...

[Karabin]

Quote: sabakina

Their DRGs wander around our territory as they want, and our DRG cannot mine this dam ..

Maybe we're out of DRGs. Petrov and Boshirov lit up, the rest are being chased by Lech's cowards. There is a variant with a freshwater "Poseidonchik", but it still needs to be riveted.

[Lexus]

Our organized criminal group is thriving. The DRG is not so smooth. There are examples of solutions to such problems. I, probably, unfortunately, not a Jew, but for some reason they solved the question, despite the UN and other squeals, including the "righteous anger" of Russian compatriots in "power".

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[tihonmarine]

Quote: lexus

I, probably, unfortunately, not a Jew, but for some reason they solved the question, despite the UN and other squeals, including the "righteous anger" of Russian compatriots in "power".

Here is closer to the topic, you are right.

[Lexus]

Vlad , they needed - they closed the problem. Are we bald or what?

[Prax1]

I've talked about this for a long time. Bomb everything there to hell. Israel would have done so and would not ask anyone. And we all chew snot

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Prax1

And we all chew snot

So spit it out

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vladimir_6

So spit it out

Chewed, chewed and then spat: Where ???

[Incvizitor]

I am also for it, they would destroy the khuntai directly, and before that, all the headquarters, missile defense, air defense, the fleet constantly peck point and go nowhere, they blamed something against the Russian Federation DPR or LPR-physical destruction.

[Karabin]

Quote: Incvizitor

vyaknul something against the Russian Federation DPR or LPR-

concern, deep concern and, God forgive me, the implementation of the Minsk agreements.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Karabin

concern, deep concern and, God forgive me, the implementation of the Minsk agreements.

I’ll just say "Give people freedom, cockles!"

[Vadim237]

The problem with water in Crimea will eventually be solved - but no one in 2014 planned to plant Ukraine on the neck of Russia and does not plan to run ahead.

[Vladimir_6]

Quote: Vadim237

The problem with water in Crimea will eventually be solved

Of course they will. We solved the problem with electricity, connected the bridge with the mainland. They are also engaged in water supply.

[Glennie]

What a formidable passion!

[Vadim237]

Probably the Terrible - Ivan who.

[Peaceful SEO]

And if the dam is bombed, will not wash away anything superfluous? The dam is not a faucet in the kitchen: I wanted to open it, I wanted to close it and the pressure is always constant

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Prax1

I've talked about this for a long time. Bomb everything there to hell. Israel would have done so and would not ask anyone. And we all chew snot

Well, something like this.

[svp67]

What are 50 doses? Taking into account that they need two per course, this is for 000 population .... and this is "a drop in the sea."
Although, I will not be surprised that when it becomes known that, under the guise of illness, Zelensky was just vaccinating himself, very quickly his symptoms of the disease passed, especially charm reappeared ...
And at the expense of water, so let's look at how much the Crimea needs the Dnieper, if one find of our hydrologists about the old riverbed of the Don is confirmed ..., but we will decide otherwise, the main thing is not to give up and know exactly for whom all this is being done

[Karabin]

Quote: svp67

so let's see how much the Crimea needs Dnieper,

We have been watching for 6 years. And apparently it is necessary.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Earlier I wrote that the worst is yet to come: the first ecological catastrophe is salinization of fertile land, the second is dehydration, the third ecological catastrophe is when there is an excess of water, villages are drowned, sewage and chemicals fall into underground groundwater, " page "VKontakte". New Mayachka - a village in the Kherson region, which is located next to the canal through which water from the Dnieper used to flow to Crimea. On June 11, villagers gathered in Kiev - to the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky. The reason for their visit is not pleasant: the village has no drainage system, which is why the last downpours flooded the village. The crop of residents of Novaya Mayachka died. The houses were flooded.

"Our state farms have stopped sowing hectares of rice and corn because the price of water has increased 20-30 times," residents of the Kherson region complained to journalists.

Those who live above the dam are also out of luck. Water from the canal began to be directed to the Karkinitsky Bay, which, according to local residents, turned into a fetid puddle: the inhabitants of the sea could not stand such desalination, and local algae began to rot. The popular children's resort in Skadovsk was periodically flooded. Also in the Kherson region the number of mosquitoes has increased.

[sabakina]

Gennady Fomkin, I tried to put on your video the music of Jays Lust "The Lonely Shepherd". You know, it turned out very well ...

[Avior]

It would be better to overlay a map, it would become clear that the village of Novaya Mayachka is located God knows where from the Crimea, almost on the banks of the Dnieper near Alyoshkovsky sands.
And the video was taken after last year's strong and atypical showers, if you watch it to the end, a link will appear to a plot from some Ukrainian channel about eliminating the consequences of the rain ...

[Odysseus]

Modern Ukraine is not a subject of politics and its political class is in no way connected with its own people. Simply put, nobody cares about the problems of Ukrainians. Accordingly, all these touching videos in the spirit - and your cow is dead - let's negotiate have no value. Well, she died and died. The task of Ukraine is to keep the channel locked, and they will keep it.

[Avior]

This video is an ordinary fake, it shows the old consequences of a rainstorm in a village not far from the Dnieper, and very far from the Crimea. Kherson region is large.
For a village, this is a very rare occurrence, there is really a desert with dunes nearby, Alyoshkovsky sands.
The closed nature of the channel does not actually create the slightest problem in Ukraine.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Odyssey

The task of Ukraine is to keep the channel locked, and they will keep it.

And what doubts there can be. Dog in the manger.

[Avior]

... the second is dehydration, the third ecological disaster is when an excess of water

Items 2 and 3 are not combined with each other, one of which needs to be drawn

[old_pferd]

And see Google satellite images? There, to the Dnieper, 4 hydraulic structures regulating the canal, to carry everything? Then it's easier to march to Kiev ...

[Evil Booth]

easier vekkmi lowered but at last sanitize evroppu.

[sabakina]

Quote: old_pferd

4 hydraulic structures

Where are 4 hydraulic structures?

[old_pferd]

At the entrance near Kakhovka, then near the regional service center MVS (I don't know what it is), the dam opposite Mirnoye and near the border.

[Avior]

There are not just dams, but pumping stations.Water does not flow by gravity along the canal, you need to pump

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

There are not just dams, but pumping stations.Water does not flow by gravity along the canal, you need to pump

Why can't you agree? They'll all pay.

[Avior]

I do not know. Unlikely, most likely.
The parties have mutually unacceptable conditions.

[old_pferd]

From the Kakhovskoye reservoir, water flows by gravity to the pumping station number 1 near Dzhankoy in Crimea.

[Vadim237]

Also, the water itself is full of guvno, while so many things will pass into it through all of Ukraine, it is better not to let it into Crimea at all.

[petrol cutter]

Who will give you rockets on the dams of a foreign state?! .. This is already an official war.
And Vova Zhirinovsky has already suggested this a hundred times.
Why did they suddenly decide to hear him today ?! ...

[APASUS]

During the program, Vladimir Zhirinovsky spoke, who said that "Dnieper is ours" and that he made a proposal on the border of the Smolensk region to redirect this river through the Don water basin "bypassing Ukraine."

Didn't Folfovich see the map since school? If we block the Dnieper in Smolensk, then we will also leave Belarus without a river. The idea is just super fantastic!

[iouris]

What can I say: Ukraine is winning in front of the viewers of the federal channels.

[Odysseus]

Federal channels of the Russian Federation to discuss, not to respect themselves (as well as Ukrainian, of course). Here the post-Soviet degradation reached its maximum. Zhirinovsky goes through the same department.
But this senseless screeching marks the real problem in addition to the role of distracting people from real problems. There is no water in Crimea, and it is unclear what to do about it. This was the result of the enchanting policy of half measures in 2014, but now this is not the point - what to do with it? Here is the question
A real way out is in the construction of large desalination facilities. But here you need a lot of installations, it is difficult and expensive. One is planned to be built by mid-2022. But this, of course, will not solve the problem.
In practice, they will pull from empty to empty, making new outlets from old reservoirs, perhaps they will try to transfer something from the Kuban (though there are also problems with water), and pray in the rain. The North of Crimea, the part of agriculture that requires a lot of water and the remnants of the industry will die. In the future, by 2030-35, the necessary desalination capacities can be built. That is, if there is money and the right amount of energy.

[7,62x54]

Now tourists who come to the peninsula must be obliged to bring with them a one-time 20 liters of drinking water. A day for 5 should be enough. Do not start without water.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 7,62x54

A day for 5 should be enough. Don't start without water.

At the rate of 2 liters per person per day. Interesting.

[7,62x54]

2 liters neat, add the macaros, tea / coffee

[t-12]

There is no water in Crimea

Drinking and household - yes. If you update the water supply network so that the pipes do not flow, then this will cover the minimum needs. Of course, not taking into account agriculture and industry.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: t-12

Drinking and household - yes. If you update the water supply network so that it does not flow from the pipes, then this will cover the minimum needs.

So drink it yourself !!!

[t-12]

Have a drink! Allow me to execute?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: t-12

Have a drink! Allow me to execute?

You need to change the pipelines (you have more than the norm for water with calcium and iron), plus put a filter, and put at home too. No spare kidneys are made.

[t-12]

The filters are now being sold for a penny. And they must be installed regardless of the replacement of pipes.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: t-12

The filters are now being sold for a penny. And they must be installed regardless of the replacement of pipes.

Be sure to put filters, and this is the easiest way out. Although we have a lot of water, iron reaches 0.4% at the prescribed 0.5%, so in the countryside and outside the city only filters are saved.

[Avior]

Desalination plants are not easy to adapt to something other than drinking water, everything else will not pull such expensive water.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

Desalination plants are not easy to adapt to something other than drinking water, everything else will not pull such expensive water.

Oh, stop smacking nonsense! I'm tired of your life.

[Avior]

what, to count in any way?
do you know how much water costs in Sevastopol? From the new year 39 rubles per cubic meter.
Do you know how much water costs in Israel, where desalination plants are quite actively used?
from 7,4 within 3, 5 cubic meters to 13, 4 all that is more than shekels per cubic meter from the new year
we count - one shekel = 23 rubles
total water in Israel is 170-308 rubles per cubic meter.
https://archive.9tv.co.il/news/2019/09/26/275297.html
and now compare with Sevastopol.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

we count - one shekel = 23 rubles
total water in Israel is 170-308 rubles per cubic meter.

Does Shikoko Shekel get an Israeli People? Per month.
We have a lot of water, but I pay 2 Euro - cubic meters for it. (in the country for the time being it is free).

[Avior]

desalinator is not paid salary
and in Crimea you will have to pay at the cost of water, not the consumer's wages.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Avior

desalinator is not paid salary
and in Crimea you will have to pay at the cost of water, not the consumer's wages.

Our water is free, but the network and service charges 2 euros.

[Dmitry Potapov]

Better with two (rockets).

[Tagan]

Quote: Prax1

I've talked about this for a long time. Bomb everything there to hell. Israel would have done so and would not ask anyone. And we all chew snot

Well, yes, you and your Fuhrer would do an oval business, heroes ... you. Well, if you have nothing else to do, then continue chewing snot.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Chubatykh died out a little during the time of independence. The rest will be finished off by the American vaccine. Serves it right! Here is their "lace panties")

[RUSS]

Quilted jackets calm down, have you completely blown your head off?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: RUSS

Quilted jackets calm down, have you completely blown your head off?

And you, too, do not wear American jackets yet. You don’t have enough pennies for that.
Think when you write.

[7,62x54]

Well, yes, with this "effective" it is easier to hit a dam with a rocket than to build a desalination plant in 6 years. Moreover, there are already 37 times more missiles than there were.

[for]

It was not necessary to drag the gas pipeline to Turkey, but the water supply to the Crimea.

[Vadim237]

In any case, this is not a single year's work, since it is a huge system of pipelines for treatment facilities and water storage, pumps and related infrastructure for thousands of kilometers.
At the moment, there is a "deficit of water supply to settlements amounted to 260 million m³ per year."
And a possible solution "As of 2019, the explored and estimated reserves of groundwater with a salinity of up to 1,5 g / l are 386 million m³ / year" There is water, you need to drill wells and install pumps, but this requires the accompanying infrastructure, which is now being built in Crimea ...

[for]

Quote: Vadim237

not a single year

This problem appeared yesterday. And you don't even have to blame Ukraine, this problem is centuries old.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: for

And you don't even have to blame Ukraine, this problem is centuries old.

And where does the Age, if the nonsense rushing now.

[Vadim237]

Well, not quite - more than half of the water in Crimea came from Ukraine until 2014.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: for

It was not necessary to drag the gas pipeline to Turkey, but the water supply to the Crimea.

No ! Cut off gas to Ukraine !!!!

[RUSS]

EBANTE .........

[tihonmarine]

Quote: RUSS

EBANTE .........

Sorry, I understand that you disagree?

[23424636]

Quote: Xenofont

People more serious than Zhirik proposed to divert the Desna near the border with Sumeria, but the channel to the Don is 700 kilometers away. And without the Desna, the Dnieper is over.

It is necessary to take in the Dnieper or tributaries and pull the pipeline to the Crimea, because on the way along the Don, the water will simply evaporate by the skillful hands of magicians from Chaltyr. In the 80s, they pulled Dnipro-Donbass to Donbass. real.

[Kushka]

There are two former convicts, one a rapist, the other a maniac.
A beautiful girl is walking. The first - if only this girl, but in the bushes.
The second - both in the face and in the face!
So it is with you, do not care that the channel is dismantled, rocket them, rocket.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Kushka

There are two former convicts, one a rapist, the other a maniac.

One rapist, the other Sumerian.

[Kushka]

Well, if those who gave the USSR Navy half their lives,
according to such an authoritative boot, the Sumerians,
then in the SA of the USSR, apparently, sepoys served.

[A_Lex]

Nostalgia for the USSR in most cases is due to the simple fact that then on TV white was called white, and black - black. And if a clown was shown on TV, then he was, as expected, in a funny cap and with a face painted with multi-colored strokes. And not as now, what is important is a frowning man in an excellent suit, whom the entertainer represents now as a deputy, now as the president of the center of political conjuncture, or even somehow pompously solemnly.

[Shurik_2]

And what prevents us from doing this now ??? They declared war on us, imposed sanctions, so now, just right. As the Bolsheviks said, "delay is like death." It's time to put gay cancer.

[Normal ok]

On the air of the program "60 minutes" on the TV channel "Russia"

after that, you can not read ((

[Baba Yaga]

I liked the option with the redirection of the Dnieper waters to the Don, and the Don channel became soooo shallow (((
After all, for several years it has been a very dry summer, and the main thing is that the Volga - Don Canal for sinking ships through it takes water from the Don due to the fact that the Don is higher than the Volga on the globe and how many years for sinking in this way the Don is shallow, and even and the east wind prevails, and because of this, when the "verkhovka" blows in the Rostov region and below the Don, you can practically wade!

But I understand perfectly well that Putin will not give the go-ahead for this (((

Stalin would have solved this issue, but so ...

[storm]

It is easier for one or several sabotage groups to "imperceptibly" blow up the dam during a spring flood, and at the same time the nearest bridges across which it is possible to transport building materials and heavy construction equipment.
For two or three months of flood, all Crimean reservoirs will be filled through the canal ...

[Mikhail Zakharov]

it seems that Zhirinovsky in the fifth grade skipped natural history

[riwas]

Recently shown on TV. Ours are building a new floating nuclear power plant with a powerful desalination plant. They are thinking of selling electricity and water to foreign countries of the coastal zone, on the islands, without selling the power plants themselves. And of course, the conversation turned to the Crimea.

[Arpad]

Quote: riwas

Recently shown on TV. Ours are making a new floating nuclear power plant with a powerful desalination plant

not true

[riwas]

"Morning of Russia" from 24.12.2020

[sen]

Ah, I saw this program. Well, they are still doing it, developing it. But once they have taken it, I think they will. There, another question was raised: can the water from this installation be used for drinking? He says that for this purpose it is better to use water from wells.

[magdama]

I believe that the Bandera problem in Ukraine will have to be solved only by military means. One "kind word", without "Colt" will not work. And it was necessary to stop the Maidan back in 2014. But our leaders decided that it would "dissolve" by itself ... As a result, headache, blood and death for decades. And a hostile country is at hand, and a Russian country!

[magdama]

Volfovich is right. If we want to do without a war with Bandera, it is better to redirect the water. It is expensive but reliable. Provide Crimea with water and drain the Dnieper. In general, the turn of the rivers))!

[viktor_ui]

this Popov must be planted on a rocket and launched on a dam ... an ordinary cock with a claim to hype and originality. And send the zhilka to dig a branch - aftur fulfill your dreams. JUST CLOWNS on TV.

[Roman070280]

That Zhirik, that Popov - two unreasonable populists ..
Who else is listening to them is amazing !!

[alexey alexeyev_2]

Zhirik is a head. Everything that he cakes will come true.

[megadeth]

It is necessary for Russia to put a dam at the source of the Dnieper, that will be Svidomo joy !!!

[Lew]

enough missiles .. then restore everything ... and so they will come themselves ..

[Yuriy Malyshko]

Discussion of the topic on TV / c "Russia" in the Skabeeva-Popov program was, as always, aimed at screeching and op. Well, what about the "bazaar" without Zhirinovsky? And this rubbish is being discussed here in all seriousness?

[Gregory Charnota]

it is strange that they did not put a post there like death row

[Shahno]

Quote: Alex Justice

Israel has a tough godfather behind its back.

Yahweh or something

[Real Pilot]

Quote: Gato

after updating the application for Android, it also became possible to write comments here!
And so, like a colleague, I have been reading for years ... Not everyone is using a computer, some are "telephone operators"

What was the problem? On Android, comments could also be written in any browser.

I'm writing ... It's the application. The browser on the phone is inconvenient. And the reader app was ...

[Vadim_888]

Not long ago I saw in a tick-tock -
Africans gave the world Ebola
The Chinese are a caronovirus
And what will the whites give?
The answer is a vaccine ....

[tolmachiev51]

- "During the program, Vladimir Zhirinovsky spoke, who said that the Dnieper is ours and that he made a proposal on the border of the Smolensk region to redirect this river through the Don water basin" bypassing Ukraine. " - what, what, and this liar. Loves to give advice! that's just not clear to whom !?

[uralant]

Zhirinovsky drives against the USSR, and he himself is no smarter than the old men from the Politburo, you can see the diplomas he bought from him! But the rocket would have helped not only the Crimea, but also the Kherson region, for which they were punished. Truly, mediocrity!