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In the United States, preparing for tests of the Stryker armored personnel carrier with combat laser installations

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In the United States, they announced the beginning of preparations for testing the updated Stryker armored personnel carriers. These tests were planned to begin earlier, but the sanitary-epidemic situation made adjustments. The Strikers' update is that they are equipped with a combat laser weapon... It is argued that the Stryker armored personnel carrier with laser cannons should eventually become part of the short-range air defense forces. In particular, the power of a combat laser (DE-SHORAD) may be sufficient, for example, to destroy small unmanned aerial vehicles that do not have a high speed of movement.


For these news seized on in Poland. So, the columnist Jakub Palowski writes about "the likelihood that the Stryker armored personnel carrier with laser cannons will be deployed in Poland." According to the Polish observer, the United States may deliver them for testing on Polish territory.

This assumption was made on the basis of the fact that the Americans had previously announced their readiness to transfer several armored personnel carriers to Poland. At the same time, we were not talking about any specific variants of armored vehicles. But the Polish press decided to speculate behind the American command, expressing the idea that it was the Strykers with US laser installations that would be sent to Poland for testing.

Earlier in the United States, it was noted that in addition to countering light low-speed UAVs, promising laser weapons on Strykers will be used against artillery shells and mortar mines. At the same time, it is planned to use a new computer system for calculating the flight trajectories of one or another ammunition in order to correct the effects of a laser beam on a target. The question of how effective this effect can be, for example, against an 82-mm mine, is still an open question.

The US command plans to integrate the capabilities of the Stryker armored personnel carrier, equipped with a DE-SHORAD combat laser, with the M1097 Avenger short-range self-propelled air defense system to improve the air defense system of specific objects.

Let us remind you that the first country in the world in which military lasers were adopted is Russia. We are talking about the Peresvet complexes.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 23 December 2020 17: 17
    +2
    As I understand it, TV homing heads can also be "burned out" ... and if so, then there is a sense in their appearance here
    1. Alexey Polyutkin
      Alexey Polyutkin 23 December 2020 17: 32
      -5
      It's about the destruction of even mines from mortars and shells ...
      1. krot
        krot 23 December 2020 17: 42
        +4
        Jakub Palowski writes about “the likelihood that the Stryker armored personnel carrier with laser cannons will be deployed in Poland

        Psheki dispersed like jackals ..))) You can't install a power plant with good power on the armored personnel carrier, therefore, only use candy wrappers with their laser ..
        1. svp67
          svp67 23 December 2020 17: 55
          -1
          Quote: krot
          A power plant with good power cannot be installed on an armored personnel carrier, therefore, only set candy wrappers on fire with their laser ..

          This is a stage already passed, now such a powerful power plant is no longer required, laser systems are already being installed on airplanes and helicopters to protect them ...
          1. kot423
            kot423 23 December 2020 18: 08
            +2
            Quote: svp67
            This is a stage already passed, now such a powerful power plant is no longer required, laser systems are already being installed on airplanes and helicopters to protect them ...

            Nu-nu ... Compare the power plants of the striker and aircraft. If the plane is unable to fire 3 to XNUMX shots in a row, then the striker will die for half an hour for the next pumping. Or then it's just a laser pointer with Ali, to blind someone ...
            1. svp67
              svp67 23 December 2020 18: 15
              +2
              Quote: kot423
              If the plane is unable to fire 3 to XNUMX shots in a row, then the striker will die for half an hour for the next pumping.

              It depends on what you want from the laser installation, if you shoot down a projectile or mine, then yes, if you disable the seeker of these shells, ATGM or "kamikaze", then no
              1. kot423
                kot423 23 December 2020 18: 24
                -1
                Quote: svp67
                if you shoot down a shell or mine,

                You reread the title. Combat - destroy by default (for example, how the tail was annealed from the target's plane). And to blind - I repeat, it is easier to put a Chinese pointer on the homing installation, it will also blind. Remember the stories with the pilots. AND? The price tag of the pointer is several times less than the bullshit on the striker.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 23 December 2020 18: 28
                  0
                  Quote: kot423
                  And to blind - I repeat, it's easier to put a Chinese pointer on the homing installation, it will also blind

                  The blinded one will continue to act, but the scorched one is gone ...
                  1. kot423
                    kot423 23 December 2020 18: 33
                    0
                    Quote: svp67
                    The blinded one will continue to act, but the scorched one is gone.

                    Did you understand what you said? wink Those. Does the "curtain" on the tanks burn out?
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 23 December 2020 18: 35
                      +1
                      Quote: kot423
                      Those. Does the "curtain" on the tanks burn out?

                      A "Shtora" and not a laser, an IR illuminator.
                      You read about the 1K11 Stiletto system, it was our laser installation in the 80s
                      1. kot423
                        kot423 23 December 2020 18: 40
                        -1
                        Quote: svp67
                        A "Shtora" and not a laser, an IR illuminator.

                        What's the difference? I gave you an example, that the "curtain" blinds and leads away. Those. its main task is to let the tank survive. Stryker was given the same task - to survive, only with the help of a laser on a homing system. Now you can return to the discussion above - and where am I going wrong there?
                      2. svp67
                        svp67 23 December 2020 18: 50
                        0
                        Quote: kot423
                        I gave you an example, that the "curtain" blinds and leads away.

                        No, it does not dazzle, due to the fact that two headlights work, it knocks down the algorithm of the projectile's operation ... it is "lost"
                        Quote: kot423
                        Those. its main task is to let the tank survive.

                        It should be installed now, but only expanded, to allow all combat vehicles to "survive"
                        Quote: kot423
                        Now you can return to the discussion above - and where am I going wrong there?

                        Yes, the fact that when "burning out" the GOS does not require such a powerful power source and long recharge, for its next pumping of the laser installation.
                      3. kot423
                        kot423 23 December 2020 18: 57
                        0
                        Quote: svp67
                        when "burning out" the GOS

                        Okay, he burned out the GOS, then what? After all, the projectile will not fall, the combat filling will not lose - to tear the striker's claws out of place? Is the power enough to start as a Formula 1 car?
                      4. svp67
                        svp67 23 December 2020 19: 01
                        +1
                        Quote: kot423
                        Okay, he burned out the GOS, then what?

                        And the fact that without a seeker, modern ammunition will miss 95%, since it will not be able to accurately keep the direction of flight, it is forced to steer all the time, keeping the target in the crosshair.
                      5. kot423
                        kot423 23 December 2020 19: 04
                        -1
                        Quote: svp67
                        modern ammunition will miss 95%,

                        Business then wink It means that the wired "bassoon" will bring down strikers ...
                      6. svp67
                        svp67 23 December 2020 19: 05
                        +1
                        Quote: kot423
                        It means that the wired "bassoon" will bring down strikers ...

                        It remains only to approach them at the desired range
                      7. kot423
                        kot423 23 December 2020 19: 14
                        -1
                        Quote: svp67
                        It remains only to approach them at the desired range

                        We are no strangers. In WWII, tanks were thrown with grenades and bottles soldier
                      8. svp67
                        svp67 23 December 2020 19: 39
                        0
                        Quote: kot423
                        We are not used to it.

                        That's bad, you don't have to give the enemy the slightest chance
          2. Intruder
            Intruder 26 December 2020 00: 37
            0
            I gave you an example, that the "curtain" blinds and leads away.
            has not gone away for a long time, the optimization of software algorithms in the control system on the trajectory, especially at the terminal section and truncation, even with the blinding of the GOS matrix itself, will not work very well, it's so easy to "deceive and take away" .., the 21st century rules :)
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 24 December 2020 23: 58
      0
      The blinded one will continue to act, but the scorched one is gone ...
      will fly on ballistics and without correction further, unless you melt it in flight, to change the aerodynamics and center of mass of the projectile and mine, that's all ...
  • Bradley
    Bradley 23 December 2020 19: 01
    +1
    Who told you that two or more Strikers cannot combine into one Super-Stryker with a powerful enough power plant?
    1. kot423
      kot423 23 December 2020 19: 17
      0
      Quote: Bradley
      that two or more Strikers cannot merge into one Super-Striker

      Then the trailer is easier, as in the jerk "forgot the batteries for the clock"
    2. venik
      venik 23 December 2020 20: 05
      +1
      Quote: Bradley
      And who told you that two or more Strikers cannot combine into one Super-Stryker with a sufficiently powerful power plant?

      ========
      "Power plant"? What is it like? Connect two motors with one shaft? belay lol
  • svp67
    svp67 23 December 2020 17: 55
    0
    Quote: Alexey Polyutkin
    It's about the destruction of even mines from mortars and shells ...

    While this is too expensive a pleasure ...
  • venik
    venik 23 December 2020 20: 00
    0
    Quote: Alexey Polyutkin
    It's about the destruction of even mines from mortars and shells ...

    ========
    Rather about the defeat of non-contact laser and radio detonators, and not about "burning through" the bodies of mines and shells.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 25 December 2020 00: 01
      0
      radio fuses
      , but to no avail, the radio fuse will fail, so there the self-liquidator on a combat platoon will work after a while ..., plus an instantaneous "contact" can also detonate, upon contact with a target or surface ...
      1. venik
        venik 25 December 2020 13: 15
        +1
        Quote: Intruder
        plus and an instantaneous "contact" can detonate, upon contact with a target or surface, produce ....

        ========
        - Anything can be ...
        - Anything can happen ....
        - The carriage can break ...
        - The bride can change ......
        - But ABOUT drink - CAN NOT be!!!
        laughing drinks
    2. Vasiliev S.
      Vasiliev S. 25 December 2020 12: 51
      0
      How to hit a radio fuse behind an optically opaque wall?
      The level of commentators is depressing.
  • tarakan
    tarakan 23 December 2020 17: 20
    +5
    Burning cast iron with a laser and at a mine speed is real?
    1. MoJloT
      MoJloT 23 December 2020 17: 27
      +1
      Burning cast iron with a laser and at a mine speed is real?
      If only in the future, beyond the laboratories, this has not yet happened, the world is looking for protection from swarms of small shock drones and kamikaze drones, this is more realistic.
  • tarakan
    tarakan 23 December 2020 17: 26
    0
    Quote: svp67
    As I understand it, TV homing heads can also be "burned out" ... and if so, then there is a sense in their appearance here

    Got enough batteries? It's not cheaper to put smoke, or active armor (although the topic is promising)
    1. MoJloT
      MoJloT 23 December 2020 17: 32
      -4
      It's not cheaper to put smoke, or active armor
      Put)
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 December 2020 17: 53
      +2
      They will not help against kamikaze drones and guided mini bombs, and you cannot put air defense systems in every unit.
  • Igor Borisov_2
    Igor Borisov_2 23 December 2020 17: 43
    0
    According to the Polish observer, the United States may deliver them for testing on Polish territory.

    The Americans have nothing to do, spend money on airlift for testing in Poland? Are they missing their polygons? Many Poles speculate ...
  • tarakan
    tarakan 23 December 2020 17: 52
    +1
    Quote: MoJloT
    It's not cheaper to put smoke, or active armor
    Put)

    And where is the application of the smoke screen?
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    2. MoJloT
      MoJloT 24 December 2020 09: 42
      -1
      And where is the application of the smoke screen?
      And how it will help, especially against the GCI, Stryker with combat laser, this is an air defense system, not self-defense. KAZ for technology will help, but still need air defense.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 23 December 2020 17: 52
    0
    The thing is certainly good, this laser, but has anyone seen a battlefield without dust and smoke. Let them read Borodino. Although I fully admit, someone will be lucky and the laser beam will stumble upon something.
    1. Vasiliev S.
      Vasiliev S. 25 December 2020 12: 53
      0
      At such powers, dust is not a problem, its mass on the beam path is negligible and will evaporate.
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 25 December 2020 22: 19
        0
        With these capacities, dust is not a problem
        then, it is better to have an aerosol-metal curtain (evaporate, but not quickly and not all at once, but there is a mass of nonlinear distortions on the beam trajectory), and preferably with an automatic loader !? :)
  • tarakan
    tarakan 23 December 2020 17: 55
    +1
    Minus STE disease, or profession? laughing(damn, not Russian, litter for spelling.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 23 December 2020 18: 04
    0
    In the United States, preparing for tests of the Stryker armored personnel carrier with combat laser installations

    The platform becomes universal, a jack of all trades.
    It is necessary to have a look while discussing, there is nothing special.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 23 December 2020 22: 55
      0
      The most important thing about Striker - take a closer look - four radars on the sides.
      This is half the cost of the entire car. smile
      And the weapon - you can put any options.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 December 2020 23: 09
        0
        What can I say, the Yankees make the technique advanced ... expensive, but striving to be ahead of everyone else is not a cheap pleasure.
  • Klingon
    Klingon 23 December 2020 18: 22
    0
    Quote: kot423
    Quote: svp67
    This is a stage already passed, now such a powerful power plant is no longer required, laser systems are already being installed on airplanes and helicopters to protect them ...

    Nu-nu ... Compare the power plants of the striker and aircraft. If the plane is unable to fire 3 to XNUMX shots in a row, then the striker will die for half an hour for the next pumping. Or then it's just a laser pointer with Ali, to blind someone ...

    what pump? it's kind of like a fiber-optic solid-state laser, it's about rechargeable batteries. As far as their capacity is enough. this laser is in any case continuous and not pulsed. and ours put on a hurricane (or what base is there?) a 150 kW chemical laser. probably oxygen-iodine think. this one does have a limited number of shots. exactly as much as there are reagents in the cans. well, plus the batteries, so for any system it turns out more cumbersome than the striker
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 25 December 2020 22: 17
      0
      150kw chemical laser. probably oxygen-iodine I think
      can stick CO2, if you feed it from a gas turbine, a trailer behind the Hurricane :)
      this laser is in any case continuous and not pulsed
      picosecond pulses can give better energy than continuous radiation at maximum power, by the way? I personally saw and "felt" with my hands, in Tomsk, on liquid dyes "wunder-waffle" for 50 kW in pulsed mode, plus it is easier to cool all this optical machinery than in gas and fiber-optic equipment, just like that!
      1. Klingon
        Klingon 25 December 2020 23: 35
        +1
        Well, maybe I'm not a physicist, I argue purely logically. And what about the guidance / aiming system? there must be an optical or combined system. Something like a fancy "Active Trek" After all, the beam will need to be held for some time at one point on the target. Let's put the propellers of the drone or the tips of the wings (if the aircraft type), you can float and thus blur the drone, but what about the projectiles from art and MLRS? if they also rotate around the longitudinal axis in flight? And if a hailstorm shoots in a volley of 40 shells and that's it, a laser has arrived. Will he have time to knock down all 40 pieces before it gets covered? I think not, some amount will fly
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 26 December 2020 00: 32
          +1
          But what about shells from art and MLRS? if they also rotate around the longitudinal axis in flight? And if a hailstorm shoots in a volley of 40 shells and that's it, a laser has arrived. Will he have time to knock down all 40 pieces before it gets covered? I think not, some amount will fly
          and this is already the magic of marketing and "big numbers" with the theory of probability, bro :) of course it will fly, only a small amount, now marketing and economy in lasers rule, perhaps while tightening up the energy and guidance drives, or some other systems with adaptive mirrors and prisms with electronically controlled diffraction are there any, come up with for subsequent upgrades and sales to foreign markets !? Happy New Year, by the way, and all the Good and Health .., in the New Year!
          1. Klingon
            Klingon 26 December 2020 03: 15
            +1
            Thank you and I wish you the same from the bottom of my heart) hi
            we will watch as fantasy becomes reality drinks
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 December 2020 18: 28
    +2
    If such vehicles appear in the troops in massive quantities, it will be necessary to cover (spray) the drone hulls, as well as mines and PCs with a thin layer of aluminum, with a reflection coefficient of 90%, which will require at least three times the radiation power. And this is not easy ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 23 December 2020 22: 51
      +1
      If they put a 50 kilowatt on them, this aluminum spraying will melt uselessly within 2 seconds.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 23 December 2020 23: 08
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        If they put a 50 kilowatt on them, this aluminum spraying will melt uselessly within 2 seconds.

        Great. Of course. Only he must be kept on this mine during these 2 seconds. And she flies. 100 meters per second for sure. Anything is possible, of course. But very difficult.
  • _Ugene_
    _Ugene_ 23 December 2020 18: 29
    0
    In particular, the power of a combat laser (DE-SHORAD) may be sufficient, for example, to destroy small unmanned aerial vehicles that do not have a high speed of movement.
    unless civilian quadcopters, shock drones are not threatened, the distances are not the same
  • bald
    bald 23 December 2020 18: 41
    0
    What should the state think, on the borders of which, on the borders of which, they will test, the weapon of the state with reading our enemy - only one thing - to destroy, warning the people of Poland (base people, therefore with a little one) and all this shebla - .. it is not necessary to warn us will shit until we wake up - my proposal, I am not a member of Volodka Zhirinovsky's party, but he is right - - three days of all NATO bases from Poland, then, then extinguish, with high-power missiles, all clusters of NATO bases, and so on a thread - three days, in order for the population to leave, serving these bases - well, how much to be gorse - say openly and figachte, understandably looking after everyone. Do not forget, until, you, do not snarl at you will write, and Poland is the most suitable option.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 23 December 2020 20: 58
    +1
    columnist Jakub Palowski writes about "the likelihood that the Stryker armored personnel carrier with laser cannons will be deployed in Poland."

    I can imagine what will start in Poland, after that: the American anthem will be sung even in toilets
  • Kelwin
    Kelwin 24 December 2020 00: 19
    0
    Kmk, very aptly invented, a continuous laser is something, but this is clearly a provocation - everyone is doing means of destruction with homing, and these, on the contrary, are a target with homing. Stopudovo what is it planned good