Armenian opposition proposes to place a second Russian military base in the country

December 23 2020

Russia may place a second military base on the territory of Armenia, which will be located near the border with Azerbaijan. The Armenian opposition made such a proposal.

According to the leader of the Enlightened Armenia party Edmond Marukyan, Armenia should sign a new security agreement with Russia, within the framework of which it will provide for the creation of a second Russian military base in the south of the country in the Syunik region, bordering with Azerbaijan. He stressed that negotiations on a new Russian base are "vital" for Armenia.

(...) we consider it vital to start urgent negotiations on the deployment of a new Russian military base in the Syunik region. The military base will, on the one hand, support the effective, dynamic activities of the Russian peacekeeping forces in Karabakh, on the other hand, the guarantor of long-term peace and security in the region

- said Marukyan.

The Armenian politician noted that Armenia already has a positive experience in the deployment of the 102nd Russian military base in Gyumri. This base has been the guarantor of the republic's security for decades and ensures the inviolability of the border from Turkey.

The 102nd Russian military base has been deployed in Gyumri since 1995. The total number of personnel is about 5 thousand people. The base also includes the Erebuni airfield in Yerevan. The airbase is armed with modernized MiG-29 fighters, Mi-24P attack helicopters and military transport Mi-8MT.

Initially, the period of stay of the Russian military on the territory of Armenia was 25 years, but in 2010 the document was amended, increasing the period from 25 to 49 years.

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Alexga 23 December 2020 13: 43
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Do the Armenians really want to tie the blood of the Russian Federation to their nationalist antics?
1. nPuBaTuP 23 December 2020 13: 48
  
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  As we have local Armenians say about Yerevanians: If you are called Jan, then he wants to ... deceive ..
  So let Vova-jan not be conducted ...
  1. Temples 23 December 2020 13: 50
    
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    It is necessary to organize a referendum on joining Russia.
    Then there will be a second military base and camp sites and sanatoriums.
    1. antivirus 23 December 2020 14: 34
      
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      and urgently serve in Khabarovsk and Murman? .......................................... ...........................
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke 23 December 2020 18: 55
        
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        and an urgent service in Khabarovsk and Murman?
        
        And during the Soviet Union they did not serve?
        And it was only good.
    2. _Ugene_ 23 December 2020 15: 57
      
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      It is necessary to organize a referendum on joining Russia.
      Then there will be a second military base and camp sites and sanatoriums.
      look at the map, why do we need such crap?
      1. Boris Nevzorov 23 December 2020 16: 39
        
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        You drew attention to the fact that the Armenians do not at all remember the time when they walked in crowds in Yerevan, burned Russian flags and shouted "Russians go home".
        Now they are asking Russia to save them from the Iizers by building ANOTHER base ...
        
        DymOk_v_dYmke 23 December 2020 19: 01
        
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        Quote: Boris Nevzorov
        You drew attention to the fact that the Armenians do not at all remember the time when they walked in crowds in Yerevan, burned Russian flags and shouted "Russians go home".
        Now they are asking Russia to save them from the Iizers by building ANOTHER base ...
        
        Do you not admit that some were walking in crowds, and others were asking for the base?
        There is a proverb: "Strike while the iron is hot."
        Or again wait for the striped ones to fit in?
    3. Boris Nevzorov 23 December 2020 16: 40
      
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      It is only necessary to do what is beneficial for Russia. The Armenians have shown themselves to be unreliable partners.
      1. _Ugene_ 23 December 2020 18: 26
        
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        I think our military bases on the territories of neighboring states are much better than the NATO bases in the same place, this is clearly beneficial for us, but on what conditions they are located there is another question, the Americans take money for this, arguing that they are protecting them, it would be nice learn from experience, otherwise we are sponsoring more and more
      2. orionvitt 23 December 2020 21: 15
        
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        You only need to do what is beneficial for Russia
        
        The fact of the matter is that if it were not for Russia's interests, let the "hot Caucasian guys" figure it out themselves. Only one conclusion can be drawn from the situation. Instead of intelligence, Armenians have only ambition, which, as recent events have shown, does not help.
2. Machito 23 December 2020 13: 51
  
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  It seems that the Armenians began to guess that abroad would not help them. To ensure its security, Armenia first needs to replace its multi-vector nature with the one-vector nature of the North Wind.
  1. Proxima 23 December 2020 14: 25
    
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    It seems that the Armenians began to guess that abroad would not help them. To ensure its security, Armenia first needs to replace its multi-vector nature with the one-vector nature of the North Wind.
    
    The later insight of the Armenian leadership is the quintessence of their former stupidity. It was necessary to shed a lot of blood, lose territory and only then guess about the obvious things! The Armenian people need to ask themselves the question, do they need such a stupid government?
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 December 2020 14: 27
      
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      lose territory
      
      And Armenia was losing territory?
      1. halpat 23 December 2020 15: 15
        
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        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
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        lose territory
        
        And Armenia was losing territory?
        
        In the last 150 years, it has been constant.
        
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 December 2020 15: 22
        
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        In the last 150 years, it has been constant.
        
        it seems that it is not about this, but about the events of two months ago.
        
        alexmach 23 December 2020 17: 29
        
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        Yes, of course I did.
        
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 December 2020 18: 24
        
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        Yes, of course I did.
        
        Show on the map.
        
        alexmach 23 December 2020 18: 34
        
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        what to show then? The regions of Nagorno-Karabakh and the adjacent Azerbaijani regions that they have controlled for the past 25 years.
        
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 December 2020 18: 50
        
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        ... what to show then?
        
        Territory Armenia that she lost. Karabakh is not an Armenian territory.
        
        alexmach 23 December 2020 19: 46
        
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        This is legal casuistry behind which you hide the fact. Armenia actually controlled this territory and actually disposed of it as its own. Now she has lost it.
        
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 December 2020 19: 57
        
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        legal
        
        Exactly.
        .casuistry
        
        No.
        ... Armenia actually controlled
        
        It doesn't matter that she temporarily controlled there. This does not mean that Karabakh is Armenian. Temporary control of a territory does not mean ownership of it with all that it implies.
        
        alexmach 23 December 2020 19: 59
        
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        Don't give a damn that she temporarily controlled there
        
        If you live in the virtual world of pieces of paper, then it may be so.
        
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 December 2020 20: 20
        
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        Don't give a damn that she temporarily controlled there
        
        If you live in the virtual world of pieces of paper, then it may be so.
        
        Do not make me laugh. Only a few can afford the luxury of neglecting 'papers'. From among the geopolitical titans. To which the Armenians do not belong. They did not bother to acquire any legitimate leverage in relation to Karabakh.
        
        alexmach 24 December 2020 00: 47
        
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        And yet they were neglected for a generation.
        
        dmmyak40 24 December 2020 07: 29
        
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        From this point of view, Crimea remains a part of Ukraine: after all, according to many pieces of paper, incl. serious enough, Ukrainian Crimea.
        "Whoever succeeded is right!" Ancient wisdom
        
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 24 December 2020 09: 29
        
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        From this point of view, Crimea remains a part of Ukraine: after all, according to many pieces of paper, incl. serious enough, Ukrainian Crimea.
        
        well, for the whole world de jure it is.
        
        dmmyak40 24 December 2020 19: 34
        
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        If you are familiar with history, you are familiar with the tendency towards de jure subsequent recognition of the factual state of affairs.
        For the first time in a long time, the West has faced its own policy: "Who is stronger is right." Well, or "come and get it."
        Get lost ...
        
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        If you are familiar with history, you are familiar with the tendency towards de jure subsequent recognition of the factual state of affairs.
        
        remind, if not difficult.

Suleyman 23 December 2020 16: 05

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Can you see a map of the Armenian state 150 years ago?

Proxima 23 December 2020 15: 33

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lose territory

And Armenia was losing territory?

Yes, of course, she lost the territories of Nagorno-Karabakh controlled by Yerevan.

Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 23 December 2020 15: 35
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Yes, of course, she lost the territories of Nagorno-Karabakh controlled by Yerevan.

that is, it did not lose any of its territories. Karabakh is not an Armenian territory.
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  lost control of the disputed territories
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    lost control of the disputed territories
    
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    It was necessary to shed a lot of blood, lose territory, and only then
    
    Control by control, but no своих Armenia did not lose territories. No semantics needed.

Vladimir Mashkov 23 December 2020 14: 33

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replace its multi-vector nature with the one-vector nature of the North Wind.

That's right: first you need to look who will come and that he will do. And these words can be just a way to break through to power. Painfully their opposition is ambiguous!

Lebed 23 December 2020 14: 56

It looks like the Armenians began to guess that abroad would not help them

In the thirtieth year of independence it came ...

knn54 23 December 2020 14: 38

Pay attention to Armenia in the Karabakh conflict. NOBODY supported.
And ally (?) Pashinyan will deign to buy weapons not from the Russian Federation, he is placing American biological laboratories.

Boris Nevzorov 23 December 2020 16: 41

Soon the Armenians will come to the conclusion that a country with a population of 3 million cannot be independent by definition. And then the thought that it is better to live as part of a large country on the basis of autonomy will not be far :)

nnm 23 December 2020 13: 45

What an ability to change shoes in a jump! That "the west will help us", the ban on Russian broadcasting, exclusively pro-Western rhetoric! And as soon as it came to serious problems, so immediately - "Russia, help, we are brothers!"

Starover_Z 23 December 2020 13: 50
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And as soon as it came to serious problems, so immediately - "Russia, help, we are brothers!"

So to fight, it's not for you to trade in the bazaar and drink tea and coffee!
His skin is closer to the body, kind Russian, will help, protect!
They want a base - let them pay in full!
ohka_new 23 December 2020 13: 54
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Polybius called this state structure ochlocracy.
1. Kote Pan Kokhanka 23 December 2020 20: 21
  
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  Ochocracy is the power of the crowd.
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    Well, it is rather the power of demagogues and manipulators, realized through the influence of the crowd on decision-making.

bogart047 23 December 2020 13: 45

the Armenian opposition is changing shoes so fast that it looks like jumping rope

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the Armenian opposition is changing shoes so fast that it looks like jumping rope

So Pashinyan came to power on an anti-Russian wave, so today's opposition in Armenia is essentially pro-Russian.
1. Vladimir Mashkov 23 December 2020 14: 45
  
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  therefore, today's opposition in Armenia is essentially pro-Russian
  
  It's hard to say, there are too many - judging by the video - of those who brought Pashinyan to power, and now they are simply dissatisfied with the defeat in the war, and not with Pashinyan's entire mediocre policy.
  It may also be the intention to hide behind the backs of the Russians and continue to do nasty things to Azerbaijan.

Vladimir_2U 23 December 2020 13: 46

The military base will, on the one hand, support the effective, dynamic activities of the Russian peacekeeping forces in Karabakh

What a caring Armenian politician, he thinks everything about Russia, he is a golden man.)))

Avior 23 December 2020 13: 50

The Armenians are trying to drag Russia into the war - this is the only explanation.

Lord of the Sith 23 December 2020 13: 50

They are afraid of Azerbaijan, and rightly so))

Konnick 23 December 2020 13: 52

The first base is just right to withdraw, and they started talking about the second.

Konnick 23 December 2020 13: 53

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It is necessary to organize a referendum on joining Russia.
Then there will be a second military base and camp sites and sanatoriums.

We don't need them like the rest of our neighbors.

Baloo 23 December 2020 13: 57

Armenian radio is asked: What are the peaceful protests of the opposition? Armenian radio thought ...
Odessa answered: This is the same as peaceful pogroms of Jews.

Doesn't the Armenian position want to fight for its own principles?

Reserve buildbat 23 December 2020 14: 05

Armenians, as always, dream of stealing and trading, but not fighting. They hope that the Russians will protect them for free.

ultra 23 December 2020 14: 14

The second is also possible, only at the expense of Armenia.

awdrgy 23 December 2020 14: 21

How the government decides, it will act and we will not be asked. If the government wants, our children will protect Armenia, whether we want it or not, and it does not matter for money or even how. Probably their opposition will laugh for a long time if it achieves it

sleeve 23 December 2020 14: 24

Who then is in power there if the opposition is talking about it)?

rusich 23 December 2020 14: 29

And who banned Russian programs and so on quite recently. The cock pecked in the ass, they immediately remembered about Russia. Post only if Armenia becomes part of Russia as a province

Rubi0 23 December 2020 14: 30

Any whim just for their money, 2 billion dollars for the base as Poland gave to the states, and with the subsequent annual purchase of Russian weapons at 4% of GDP as in NATO, the creation of supervisory boards in all structures where half of the votes are for Russian citizens, good places for the children of politicians a la Biden's son and at the same time in the Russian Federation there will be vacancies for smart people

Ros 56 23 December 2020 14: 31

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A sensible thought, control over the Turks and Azeris is needed, but first, our General Staff officers need to thoroughly study everything.

Konnick 23 December 2020 14: 50

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Go there and report on the situation to know what to control, sofa political strategy.

Rostislav 23 December 2020 14: 55

If the construction, maintenance of the base and the costs of monetary and clothing allowance of the contingent are on the receiving side, then one might think.

rocket757 23 December 2020 15: 15

That bast, then razlubov .... as it all bothered.

Krasnoyarsk 23 December 2020 15: 15

= ... within which to provide for the creation of a second Russian military base on =
Yes, even ten. But at your expense, gentlemen, Armenians.

Catholic 23 December 2020 15: 23

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It's good that at least they began to understand that they cannot survive without Russia.

_Ugene_ 23 December 2020 16: 02

They came up with this great, but they asked the Russian side, do we need it?

Suleyman 23 December 2020 16: 15

[/ quote] The Armenian opposition offers to deploy a second Russian military base in the country [quote]

... and at the same time increase the size of the American diplomatic corps?

tarakan 23 December 2020 17: 29

They don't need a base, but a training center, or a training ground.

alexmach 23 December 2020 17: 31

Re-equip base 102 with something more modern.

ccsr 23 December 2020 19: 22

Creating such a base would be a big mistake. That is why you do not need to be led to any of their calls, but simply force them to build a modern army for themselves for their own money. Then neither Azerbaijan nor Turkey will be afraid of them. And how to build in Yerevan the largest American intelligence center against Russia, here they do not take into account our opinion, they are too "proud". But as soon as we got snot from the Azerbaijanis, let the Russians go straight away, fight for us, save the Christians. Fig them - let them let the hat around the world, collect money, and we will supply them with weapons, and teach people at their expense.

AĞGURD 23 December 2020 20: 29

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lost control of the disputed territories

It was written above:

It was necessary to shed a lot of blood, lose territory, and only then

Control by control, but no своих Armenia did not lose territories. No semantics needed.

Well, first of all, there are worse things than losing territory ... this is surrender or humiliate to ask for forgiveness and ask for help, and whoever betrayed, insulted, or did nothing, Armenia managed to do both that no other country in the world did, even with complete death existence ....
and what would become of Armenia if Russia did not intervene?

AĞGURD 23 December 2020 21: 03

when you read the history of Russia in the Caucasus such a feeling Russian vassals of Armenians ... when they want and what they want the Armenians use them ... and in the end the Russians are to blame and were left alone with the problems ... ... I apologize if I offended the claw, but the point here is not about Russia, but about his cellmate ... People do not take offense at me, but believe me, neither friend nor ally or vassal will come out of them ... this is a snake warmed in his chest ... believe me. ... for them, betrayal or giving a word of which they are not going to keep a lie. will be exposed on the victory of another. delusion. theft from a neighbor ... this is a tactic for existence ... any Caucasian will tell you this and it has been tested for centuries ... yes there is good city, with understandings, but in general it is very difficult to shoot and dangerous ..

Dkuznecov 24 December 2020 15: 31

If the opposition (that is, the minority) is for the Russian bases,
then what does the majority want then?

Petr Vladimirovich 24 December 2020 17: 43

Oh! Is it possible to build a hospital instead of a base? Well, so that cataract surgery does not wait six months, but at least three months?