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What hinders the development of entrepreneurship in Russia?

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A new airliner with a Russian engine took off in Russia. We have built huge nuclear icebreakers. Launched a new heavy rocket into space. And, in general, we are preparing to build a space tug with a nuclear engine. We have record harvests. And our economy is stable. But for some reason, it just doesn't grow, despite all the achievements.


Rumor has it that in advanced economies where people live richly, it is based on small and medium-sized companies that do not build icebreakers or launch rockets, but are engaged in more mundane matters.

These companies create the bulk of the GDP, the growth of which our government, and we, together with it, dreams of. And if the GDP does not grow, then something is wrong with our small and medium-sized businesses?

Why doesn't he want to develop?


What are the reasons?

There are probably many reasons. But I will focus on one of the main ones that hinder the development of entrepreneurship in Russia.


I'll start from afar and in simple words.

The Russian government has launched a large-scale fight against cashing money, with the help of which entrepreneurs avoid paying taxes.

A financial monitoring service has been introduced in banks, which monitors entrepreneurs suspicious of bank transactions. If a suspicious transaction on a current account is detected, then the account is immediately blocked with all funds. Blocking occurs on the basis of ФЗ-115.


The methodology for calculating such operations is classified, banks are prohibited from informing entrepreneurs for what reason their account is blocked.

From a company with a blocked account, the bank requests documents confirming the reality of entrepreneurial activity, such as: contracts, invoices, powers of attorney, etc. The list (required to confirm the activity) of documents is quite decent, since it is formed on the basis of standards, which describe where and with which piece of paper each action of a legal entity is drawn up.

I have no idea where this is described, as well as the lion's share of Russian entrepreneurs, who very often do not complete all the documents for each movement, for example, a power of attorney or ttn. Especially if there is an interaction with partners with whom you have been working for several days.

Often, the entire transaction for small entrepreneurs is drawn up in the form of correspondence in messengers or in the mail with clarifications by phone. And at the end, only one document is actually drawn up: "UPD", or an invoice with a waybill (for those who have not switched to a universal transfer document).

UPD (if without different nuances) is the only document confirming the economic activity of an entrepreneur before the tax office, it gets into the books of purchases and sales. That is, the UPD is always drawn up and signed by both parties to the transaction.

But for some reason, the presence of a signed UPD is absolutely not enough to confirm the reality of entrepreneurial activity in front of the bank. The entrepreneur has no connection with financial monitoring, there is no way to persuade anyone or at least explain something.

The entrepreneur only submits documents to the bank and is waiting for a decision to unblock the account. Documents are always requested for several months of its activity. And these are tens and hundreds of sheets of photocopies (information for understanding: how long does it take to prepare a response to the bank).

What hinders the development of entrepreneurship in Russia?

Why so much text above?

In addition, accounts are blocked for business and often erroneously. Since the block exposes artificial intelligence, working according to a certain algorithm.

But the documents are checked by people acting on the basis of job descriptions created on the basis of the above standards, which no one knows about. Therefore, small entrepreneurs do not have a single chance to unblock their account.

There is only one way out of the situation: closing a blocked account and opening an account in another bank with the transfer of the remaining funds to a new account.

What are the consequences?


In addition, the bank has the right to take 20% of the blocked amount from the entrepreneur. And there can be (and most likely will be) not only the entrepreneur's money, but, for example, a prepayment of the buyer. So the loss of 20% of the amount may simply zero out the company's equity.

The work of an entrepreneur is paralyzed from 2 weeks to 1,5 months: who can quickly get out of the crisis.

And this is precisely a crisis situation that sometimes makes an entrepreneur consciously or forced to abandon entrepreneurial activity.

After blocking, the company is blacklisted by the bank. It means:

“Goodbye loans. In this bank. "

And even as a private person.

And there is also the black list of the Central Bank. And if the company gets there, then not one bank will open an account for you. And what will you do with the blocked money? It's a question of all money! The entrepreneur will take them out for a very long time and troublesome.


The difficulties of entrepreneurs are nonsense. The main thing is order in the country.

It doesn't matter that random people get under the skating rink.

"You can't get scrambled eggs without breaking the eggs."

Knowing our country, I can assume that non-random people, most likely, do not have any problems.

And with whom then, in fact, is financial monitoring fighting? Great question!

The tax inspectorate is also putting things in order, primarily with regard to the payment of VAT. Since the tax inspectorate now has the technical ability to see VAT: where it came from, who paid it, and who just pretended to have paid it.

The tax authorities are delighted, entrepreneurs are horrified.

This is a problem for medium-sized companies and even large ones, whose turnover is billions of rubles.

The essence of the problem.

The tax authorities impose additional VAT charges on companies from their suppliers, which, in the tax authorities' opinion, look like "dumpsters". And after such a "trash heap" other offices follow the chain, which in fact did not pay any VAT.

The tax authority takes the VAT chain and uses it to determine the beneficiary, to whom it charges the entire VAT for the entire chain. Diggers are charged additional VAT in tens and hundreds of millions of rubles. Naturally, entrepreneurs, continuing to work, no longer think about business development, but about saving money.


It is stupid to play a twist and say that poor entrepreneurs have nothing to do with the "trash heaps".

The use of "dumpsters" for tax evasion was a regular practice that the tax authorities did not pay attention to.

But the tax office paid attention to the amount of taxes paid on the company's turnover. This is called the tax burden on business. And it is calculated by a tax calculator on the website of the tax office.

It included all taxes. And the site indicates the size of the tax burden to be paid. If the company paid taxes in sufficient amounts to its turnover, then it could draw whatever it wanted in its reports.

And that was the rule of the game in economics.

The companies drew themselves reports. But we followed the size of the tax burden paid. At the same time, for different companies, the rate was made on different taxes: someone paid more income tax, someone VAT, someone pay taxes.

And now the tax office has a miracle program. And along with it, new rules of the game appeared!

Only the rules of the game appeared today. And entrepreneurs for one place are grabbed for the deeds of yesterday!

And yesterday no one asked the entrepreneurs today, and therefore they were not ready for them today.

Actually, entrepreneurs believed that they were paying taxes. And there are no questions for them. But it turned out to be. And moreover, in amounts exceeding their capital by tens of times!


Everything that is written is just a saying. So to speak, a short essay on working conditions in Russia.

But this is not the real problem for entrepreneurs.

This is a consequence of a problem that I will discuss next time.
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 25 December 2020 12: 06
    +11
    What hinders the development of entrepreneurship in Russia?
    A state geared towards "big business".
    1. Civil
      Civil 25 December 2020 12: 20
      +29
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      What hinders the development of entrepreneurship in Russia?
      A state geared towards "big business".

      And let's call a spade a spade - oligarchy.

      By the way on the banks, banker + bandit = bankster. A gang of banksters led by the Central Bank is terrorizing not only the squeezed out population, but also big business. Notice there is not a single high-profile case of corruption and fraud in the banking sector.
      Moreover, you cannot complain about the bank to the prosecutor's office.
      The bank has more rights than an ordinary citizen, if only because it has a crowd of lawyers.
      1. Malyuta
        Malyuta 25 December 2020 13: 32
        +30
        Quote: Civil
        let's call a spade a spade - oligarchy.
        By the way on banks, banker + bandit = bankster

        I am very sorry, but if you call a spade a spade, then our so-called state is a bandit, or rather an organized crime group.
      2. Alex Nevs
        Alex Nevs 25 December 2020 18: 32
        +1
        Almost plagiarism ... just like in Lenin's. Or with primary sources not?
        1. Civil
          Civil 26 December 2020 07: 14
          +2
          Quote: Alex Nevs
          Almost plagiarism ... just like in Lenin's. Or with primary sources not?

          Just a statement of fact, the presence in the country of a transitional feudal-capitalist system.
    2. nnm
      nnm 25 December 2020 12: 22
      +28
      Not even so. I talked to many entrepreneurial friends on this topic, the main answers are:
      1. They don't see what their taxes go to. More precisely, on the contrary, they see what and to whom their taxes go.
      2. Insanely expensive credit load. Lack of "long" loans.
      3. Total corruption / regulation - in the sense that collect a hundred certificates, give it to everyone, bring it in for a license, give it to the firemen, and so on. And when he grew up, people in uniform come and tell you that this is now their business.
      4. Constantly changing rules of the game and an increase in tax / other mandatory payments.
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 25 December 2020 12: 43
        -19%
        Quote: nnm
        They don't see what their taxes go to. More precisely, on the contrary, they see what and to whom their taxes go.

        And in business, all the more so in Russia, apparently all the saints are trying to pay taxes regularly?
        Quote: nnm
        Total corruption / regulation - in the sense that you collect a hundred certificates, give it to everyone, bring it in for a license, give it to the firemen, etc. And when he grew up, people in uniform come and tell you that this is now their business.

        I wonder then how we get lame horses and other cherries? And what about people in uniform, that's generally not the case. Knowing the cannibalistic approach to the hired employee of effective managers, they are dear to them.
        Quote: nnm
        Constantly changing rules of the game and an increase in tax / other mandatory payments.

        Life does not stand still. And now the scientific and technological revolution is rapidly changing the world. Staying the same is losing the competitive race. The impudent idlers have got used to buy for a ruble for three and live on these two percent. Learn to live in a rapidly changing world or die out like dinosaurs. No one is interested in your whining.
        1. nnm
          nnm 25 December 2020 12: 51
          +24
          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          And in business, all the more so in Russia, apparently all the saints are trying to pay taxes regularly?

          No, I did not say that they are saints. I will answer with specific examples. When I see that a person who tried to open a clothing production in our country, having a lot of experience in entrepreneurship behind his back, with a number of 200 workers and a normal tax burden, sees an official on a motorcade with a flashing light, hurrying to a charter in the Maldives and his mother with pension of 12 thousand, when they see the retirement age - I understand why this person does not want to pay this very official even more.

          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          I wonder then how we get lame horses and other cherries? And what about people in uniform, that's generally not the case. Knowing the cannibalistic approach to the hired employee of effective managers, they are dear to them.

          And so it turns out that you do not read my words well - I did not write to you that the rules are too strict, I write to you that at every stage - give! give! give! give! And if you remember, it was the inspector who sat down, who closed his eyes for the money. And we have such barriers only to fill our pockets, and not to protect citizens.

          Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
          Life does not stand still. And now the scientific and technological revolution is rapidly changing the world. Staying the same is losing the competitive race.

          Bravo!!! Forgive me, you think that an extensive way of inflating the budget in the form of increasing contributions to it is the way to get to the front ranks ??? !! Standing applause !!! Not increasing the efficiency of budget spending, not eliminating corruption, increasing productivity, etc. ... but just paying more taxes and going forward, in the top 3! !!! I am sure you will be awarded the Nobel Prize in Economics in 2021.
          1. 210ox
            210ox 25 December 2020 13: 50
            +14
            An example of our enterprise is a hand below average. Several years ago, in more favorable times, the company grew, increased profits, and was built. The deputy for construction turned to the region to resolve issues. So they put him in front of the fact, take a loan (we will even help you), otherwise neither will. Even with the fact that we have our own funds, no ... Well, what kind of state we have. Precisely gangster.
          2. Hagen
            Hagen 25 December 2020 14: 26
            -1
            Quote: nnm
            And we put such barriers only in order to fill our pockets, and not to protect citizens.

            You are not entirely correct. One horse burned down, well, let it be five in the last five years. And hundreds of thousands of such horses work and bring their owners profit and pleasure to their clients. And if it was as you say, then these horses would burn in hundreds a month, and clients would not go there. Unfortunately, state inspectors who check business structures, the same people, like everyone else living in our neighborhood, are not devoid of the same shortcomings as we do. However, I think there is a need for them. By the nature of my work, I have to work with SMEs (in Russian, approximately - small and medium-sized businesses). Frankly, they are problematic in all directions. And according to the working conditions, and the quality of performance, and the concealment of payments to all funds, from which the workers then remain without pensions. They cry that they were not lucky with the state, but they work, and wives in the Maldives walk, and business cars are changed like gloves. But any construction site must have severe industrial injuries. Because they save money on training workers, on certification of machinery and equipment. If they are not controlled at all, then they will generally go out of reasonable parameters of work. After all, how many curses are piled even here on VO that the bread is bad, there is no meat in the sausage, and so on and so forth. And this is almost all the work of the SMP. In conversations, entrepreneurs will certainly cry for their plight, so that the interlocutor does not wake up the thought to ask them for financial help laughing ... But what is interesting is that Russia is rapidly gaining points in the ratings (not of our agencies) in terms of ease of doing business. And from 120th place in 2012 today sits at 28. By the way, the article pointed out the blocking of accounts without explaining the reasons, which occurs automatically, and there is no one to explain and persuade. First, for some strange reason, for some reason, it is not said that this information is outdated and literally one of these days an amendment will be approved, obliging banks to explain blocking of accounts. Secondly, this measure (automatic actions according to the algorithm) reduces the possibility of "bringing something in and solving" there. The situation with small and medium-sized businesses is ambiguous, but there is movement towards progress, albeit not as fast as we would like. After all, even in our mental outlook on business, for the most part, we have not overcome its negative assessments, such as all there are "traders and speculators", and in what is called big business, everything is "pretty often thieves". Therefore, miracles do not happen, he, this business we have different and cannot be for a huge mass of reasons, including those not mentioned here.
        2. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 25 December 2020 13: 44
          +14
          Makar, business is not only trade 1 for 3 and leasing of premises .. I have a service sector, for example. I create a product (service) myself .. And what does the changing world have to do with it? be?
          I'll tell you a trick from experience: statistics calls and says, we call as part of helping small businesses, give us the balance for a year .. we will not send it anywhere, write the whole truth laughing but if you don’t send it, we will fine you 50 tr. sent of course ... nulevku- like everyone else .. that's the whole point of the state's attitude- it would be better if they didn’t help- the best help would be ..
          1. three
            three 26 December 2020 23: 04
            +5
            The biggest problem of small and medium-sized businesses in Russia is the complete absence of a solvent population. The average salary is 20-25. Pensions - 100 euros (a Briton friend asked again four times recently). All the rest passed. With screams, whining. swear words, but passed .... Small and medium-sized businesses will never survive the poverty of the population.
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 27 December 2020 10: 07
              0
              I agree entirely .. especially in this goth tough slump ..
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 25 December 2020 12: 54
        +24
        The colony status does not imply the development of serious business. For the main task of the foreign state is to export the maximum amount of good for the cordon in exchange for candy wrappers, which, however, Russia has no right to use at its discretion. As a result, the people in the country must be extremely poor and powerless, so as not to spend the coveted currency and resources on their needs. And the beggar always bites less .. Ideal - you should work for large corporations for a bowl of soup, a quilted jacket every three years and the right to spend the night in your shift on a mattress under the stairs .. 16 hours a day, seven days a week. This is the only way to squeeze the maximum dough from the people. No wonder our big ones are so drooling over RI and the last king ..
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 26 December 2020 03: 18
          +2
          Here everything is very clearly written on this score.


      3. ccsr
        ccsr 26 December 2020 15: 58
        +1
        Quote: nnm
        1. They don't see what their taxes go to. More precisely, on the contrary, they see what and to whom their taxes go.

        Excuse me, but I personally, as an individual entrepreneur, do not care deeply where my taxes go - this is how all states of the world are arranged, because there is a budget and it must be executed. But when Luzhkov suddenly ordered all retail outlets to be decorated with some kind of plastic flowers, and for some reason they had to be bought at a company owned by his wife, or Sobyanin paving tiles every two years, this does not cause anything but irritation to me. So, not all the nonsense can be attributed to government officials and taxes - our "people's nominees" are also those whose personal interests are often completely unrelated to taxes, but we also pay them indirectly in addition to taxes.

        Quote: nnm
        2. Insanely expensive credit load. Lack of "long" loans.

        As a rule, those who have huge mansions abroad, garages of supercars, yachts, planes say this - they are the ones who cry the most. And when they are told, sell your excesses, and you have enough money for the business and you will not need to take out a loan, so they will look at you as if you were crazy. I never took out a loan for business development, because I always squeezed my expenses when I needed money - this is a normal practice, which, by the way, is followed by Western businessmen who have real production, not speculative capital.
        Quote: nnm
        3. Total corruption / regulation - in the sense that collect a hundred certificates, give it to everyone, bring it in for a license, give it to the firemen, and so on.

        I agree with that. But from my own experience I know that you just need to not enter, but fulfill their requirements. It is expensive, but in the end it gives a benefit, because it is easier to fulfill all the firefighters' requirements once, spending money on security systems, fire extinguishers, opening grilles, etc. and after that they somehow immediately lose interest - I went through it all myself. Yes, you have to pay for the quarterly fire alarm service, but it's still much better than waiting for a fine every time.
        Quote: nnm
        And when he grew up, people in uniform come and tell you that this is now their business.

        But they are not engaged in small business, the danger should not be exaggerated. And big business itself is able to make a setup for presumptuous employees in uniform - at least they are constantly taken for both bribes and extortion. So if you are too big an entrepreneur, take care of the safety of your business seriously - then there will be no problems.

        Quote: nnm
        4. Constantly changing rules of the game and an increase in tax / other mandatory payments.

        This is a really unpleasant thing, but what happened ten years ago, in general, cannot be compared with the current situation - now it is more and more transparent and the rules are clear. For many years my accountant worked according to Ukrainian rules, and after the annexation of Crimea, she switched to our taxation system and it is recognized that everything is much more thought out and understandable here. So the main thing is to have a good specialist for working with taxes, then there will be no problems - I know this because the shoals of other accountants who surfaced 2-3 years after their dismissal cost me too much.
        1. gsev
          gsev 29 December 2020 01: 36
          +1
          Quote: ccsr
          Sobyanin paving tiles every two years,

          In general, in Russia, tile factories are the official corruption trough for the heads of administrations of small villages and mayors of large cities. The more tiles are laid in the city, the more thieves the first person of the city becomes.
    3. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 25 December 2020 12: 30
      +17
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      A state geared towards "big business".

      IN AND. Lenin, at the dawn of the 20th century, wrote the work "Imperialism as the Highest Stage of Capitalism", it still has not lost its relevance. In our city, for example, Yandex taxi, Uber and Maxim remained from the taxi, i.e. large networks. Look at the savings bank, today it climbs into all areas where it can reach. We all see that if Magnet opens nearby (Pyaterochka, etc.), then nearby small shops close, and then Magnet raises prices. We call all this "free market and competition".
      1. Cruorvult
        Cruorvult 25 December 2020 12: 41
        -10%
        Probably Lenin drowned for a free market and competition and did not fight against the bourgeoisie and bourgeois thinking :-D, but in the USSR there was a bunch of private banks.
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 25 December 2020 12: 45
          +13
          Quote: CruorVult
          Probably Lenin drowned for a free market and competition and did not fight against the bourgeoisie and bourgeois thinking :-D, but in the USSR there was a bunch of private banks.

          Why did you write this? At the time of the NEP there was a lot that was, but by the first five-year plan, this program was curtailed. Even then, banking activities were not controlled by the state as they are now.
          1. Cruorvult
            Cruorvult 25 December 2020 13: 00
            -5
            "Why did you write this?" But everything is simple, you either drown for Lenin, then it turns out against the bourgeoisie, including most of the business, or for entrepreneurship, private business against Lenin, otherwise it turns out a little funny.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 25 December 2020 13: 05
              +12
              Quote: CruorVult
              "Why did you write this?" But everything is simple, you either drown for Lenin, then it turns out against the bourgeoisie, including most of the business, or for entrepreneurship, private business against Lenin, otherwise it turns out a little funny.

              You have very simplistic ideas.
    4. Campanella
      Campanella 25 December 2020 13: 03
      +10
      The state is not imprisoned, officials and their relatives take revenge on that big business. They follow very closely any other business and when necessary they clean it up for themselves.
      In this sense, the president, who talks about small and medium-sized businesses, amazes with the fact that he hasn’t hit his finger on the case, only nice words.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 25 December 2020 15: 04
        +7
        Quote: Campanella
        In this sense, the president, who talks about small and medium-sized businesses, amazes with the fact that he hasn’t hit his finger on the case, only nice words.

        And for him the people are suckers.
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 26 December 2020 03: 44
          +2
          In my opinion, many have heard about a gift plate from a "friend to a friend".
      2. Sahalinets
        Sahalinets 26 December 2020 00: 53
        0
        In this sense, the president, who talks about small and medium-sized businesses, amazes with the fact that he hasn’t hit his finger on the case, only nice words.

        And there is nothing to be amazed at. He just represents the power of those who milk and squeeze the business. What will he pinch his own? laughing
  2. Woodman
    Woodman 25 December 2020 12: 08
    +5
    If a suspicious transaction on a current account is detected, then the account is immediately blocked with all funds. Blocking occurs on the basis of ФЗ-115.
    Even before these measures, business in Russia was somehow not very good ...
  3. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 25 December 2020 12: 09
    +10
    And it seems that the "young state" is already almost thirty years old, but they cannot settle everything, everything is not enough for "close people", everything has to be compensated from small and middle peasants.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 25 December 2020 12: 15
      +21
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      "but they cannot settle everything,

      So maybe because the true goals of those in power differ from the declared ones? Because the development of the country is simply not included in the tasks of the colonial government?
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 26 December 2020 03: 22
        +2
        Igor, Vladimir hi ,
        some of those present here are quite satisfied with the scraps from the master's table, which they, with snot at the mouth, outright rudeness and insults, fiercely defend / work off.
        1. VORON538
          VORON538 26 December 2020 03: 28
          -4
          And you are funny :))) You have been plowing for XNUMX hours. Apparently, they threw some money for the slops with which you water Russia :)))
          1. Lexus
            Lexus 26 December 2020 03: 34
            +2
            Have they sent him, Golovan? .. About the money - balabol. You confuse your masters and yourself with Russia.
    2. Campanella
      Campanella 25 December 2020 13: 07
      +10
      This young state will die like that, but only from old age.
      All Putin's innovations and projects have led to nothing sensible and will not lead. A window will appear when he decides to dump, but this is also my grandmother said in three.
  4. 7,62h54
    7,62h54 25 December 2020 12: 12
    +4
    Author, do you own or run some kind of business? Do you have any experience?
  5. prior
    prior 25 December 2020 12: 14
    +12
    Well, what can be the development of entrepreneurship in an organized criminal group ?!
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 26 December 2020 03: 39
      +1
      Vlad hi,
      small and medium-sized businesses are gray and always on the edge. What we see everywhere.
  6. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 25 December 2020 12: 15
    +12
    Somewhere a year ago I wrote that the backbone of a stable economy is made up of small and medium-sized companies and I was mercilessly minded ... laughing

    Let's look at Germany - 54% of jobs are created by small and medium-sized companies. And 48% of GDP.

    Because I often visit Greece and see how small and medium-sized companies give bread to families and small people so that they live with dignity.

    And I am writing this because the state does not help these companies and infringes on them. Probably because he cannot steal and cut money from them. There is no other explanation.

    Actually, I am also in this circle of small companies and already regret that I did not register my company in Germany but in Bulgaria. The next year, my friend and I thought about re-registering in Germany, paying taxes there and ending all relations with the thieves' authorities in their homeland.
    1. apro
      apro 25 December 2020 12: 25
      -5
      Kaiser, I'll put a minus today ...
      Entrepreneurship is quite possible ... but in a powerful centralized economy with a rigid planning system, as a service sector, trade, and if this is not the case ... then there is nothing to pump up money.
      1. Deniska999
        Deniska999 25 December 2020 12: 28
        +5
        Are we going to plan the production of ballpoint pens in the State Planning Committee?
        1. tatra
          tatra 25 December 2020 12: 41
          +7
          Under capitalism, the country and the people live in dependence on what brings PROFIT to the capitalists. If the production of cheap pens for the people is not profitable for the capitalists, then they will not produce them.
          .
        2. apro
          apro 25 December 2020 12: 50
          +3
          Quote: Deniska999
          Are we going to plan the production of ballpoint pens in the State Planning Committee?

          Why not? The main thing is that the production is located on the territory of the country, otherwise the hucksters will find it cheaper ...
          1. Igoresha
            Igoresha 25 December 2020 22: 03
            0
            otherwise the hucksters will find it cheaper ...
            yes, here are Ukrainian wheel pairs for railway wagons from what is in
            three
            times cheaper than Russian and right now they are outlawed in the Russian Federation. Tickets will not rise in price?
        3. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 25 December 2020 15: 12
          +5
          Quote: Deniska999
          Are we going to plan the production of ballpoint pens in the State Planning Committee?

          China is demonstrating a hybrid economic model with great success. hi
      2. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 25 December 2020 12: 33
        +2
        Entrepreneurship is quite possible ... but in a powerful centralized economy.


        I do not agree ... laughing And Germany and many other countries are proof of this.
        I am a small company, I earn money for my family and give bread to several other good specialists. I pay taxes honestly, to the penny. This is the foundation of a healthy economy. And from the state, I only want to not interfere and there was no corruption. By the way, China fought precisely against corruption at a low level, which prevents citizens and small companies from living.
        1. apro
          apro 25 December 2020 12: 52
          -3
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          And Germany and many other countries are proof of this

          So you got caught ... Germany 2 ... 3 ... the third world economy. The surplus product is huge and capable of supporting hucksters ..
          There is no need to talk about China ... there is a planned economy and state regulation ..
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 25 December 2020 13: 30
            +2
            So you got caught ...


            Didn't get a colleague laughing It's just that you, according to your custom, started the battle again between the white and the red. I don't mean for sure you, but all the ardent communists galloped up and pulled the checkers from their scabbards. laughing

            This is a common economic topic and it concerns the attitude of a modern state towards its citizens and not only you. And that's all.
            1. apro
              apro 25 December 2020 13: 38
              +3
              Quote: Keyser Soze
              again a battle between white and red

              No Kaiser ... this is not a battle between reds and whites ... but a simple economic calculation. And I know what entrepreneurship is. We were engaged at one time .. if the population does not have money, then there is no buying activity. Which you confirmed by moving to Germany. We were also the same thing that big organizations harassed the work of firing workers and that's it ...
          2. evgen1221
            evgen1221 25 December 2020 15: 54
            +2
            Apro and other commentators. At least you have already decided on the type of China's economy, the plan is there or capitalism. And that's already ridiculous. As to whom it is profitable to push the comment, he changes his shoes on the issue of the type of Chinese economy. By God, tie it up already.
            1. A_Lex
              A_Lex 26 December 2020 14: 24
              0
              At least you have already decided on the type of China's economy, the plan is there or capitalism. And that's already ridiculous.


              What's so funny? Any capitalist economy works according to plan. The plan is the basis of the activity of any enterprise. The larger the company and the larger the market coverage, the greater the value of the lpan.
              1. Dimonst
                Dimonst 26 December 2020 15: 02
                0
                Gentlemen, everything is simple with China. See on fingers: Every year any normal enterprise in the country receives a government order. It is performed in 1 turn, because if it is not fulfilled, the state takes the enterprise into its ownership. But all this is paid for at normal commercial rates. With the growth of a private enterprise initially from scratch and up to a certain financial turnover, it becomes interesting to the state and it acquires 25% of the property in exchange for concessional lending, and so on. In this case, the management remains with the private owner. So much for the whole Chinese ideology. As a person who has had my own manufacturing business for 15 years, I look at this scheme and, to put it mildly, envy, because in the Russian Federation I myself develop my production, and in China the state is directly involved in this. And we absolutely do not want to play with our state. Although, I have many colleagues who have built large enterprises for the state.
                even.
                1. A_Lex
                  A_Lex 26 December 2020 15: 11
                  0
                  if it is not fulfilled, the state takes the enterprise into its ownership ... it acquires 25% of the property in exchange for concessional lending


                  Where on the web is there evidence that actually supports this practice?

                  In this case, the management remains with the private owner. So much for the whole Chinese ideology.


                  Those. the system favors successful businesses. Actually the same thing is happening in the West. And what is Chinese specificity then? Is that all this is essentially state capitalism?
                  1. Dimonst
                    Dimonst 26 December 2020 17: 27
                    0
                    And what does the network have to do with it? laughing I describe what I know, because I work with many Chinese enterprises, and accordingly I know the owners, etc. These are the largest factories in the world in our line of business.
                    1. A_Lex
                      A_Lex 26 December 2020 17: 42
                      0
                      And what does the network have to do with it? laughing I am describing what I know


                      Is this classified information? Your personal insider that cannot be factually verified? If so, then not interesting.
                2. Aleksandr7987
                  Aleksandr7987 26 December 2020 16: 05
                  0
                  Good day. A good and informative story about doing business in China. I just want to add on my own that I really liked the specifics of Chinese fiscal law (infa first-hand, but over the years I forgot the currency in which what I will now mention is measured ...). Chinese Liu opens his business, let's say a cafe. Registers everywhere in the Chinese government agencies as expected. And calmly develops the business, works, gives jobs ... And here is the catch of this whole story - in China, taxes from a private entrepreneur who opened his own business begin to take after his enterprise has overcome the threshold of profit of one million yuan ... And before this threshold is a businessman Liu does not pay taxes and only reports on the conduct of his business in the tax ...
                  1. Dimonst
                    Dimonst 26 December 2020 17: 45
                    0
                    Yes, it really is.
        2. Sahalinets
          Sahalinets 26 December 2020 00: 55
          +1
          Nice man, don't tell me! A typical situation - the largest enterprise in the city is covered and the whole small business starts to suck its paw. Because the clients no longer have money. This is especially evident in monocities.
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 26 December 2020 10: 23
            -2
            This is especially evident in single-industry towns.


            You are probably right, but in our nature there are no monotowns. hi
            1. Sahalinets
              Sahalinets 26 December 2020 12: 01
              0
              You - maybe. And in the Russian Federation they are full.
    2. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 25 December 2020 12: 38
      +3
      So the GDP of any developed country is bloated. One person produced a product, and ten more people sell, advertise, research, ban, criticize, and so on.

      If the other 10 stop doing their job, the goods will not decrease, oddly enough.
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 25 December 2020 12: 43
        +1
        yes, the goods will not decrease, but they will be sold less and the manufacturer will incur losses.
        1. Sancho_SP
          Sancho_SP 25 December 2020 12: 49
          +2
          And this is a modern economic problem. The sphere of production provides the entire population in exchange for artificially invented services.
    3. Svetlana
      Svetlana 25 December 2020 12: 40
      +1
      How can you register a company in Germany without a local registration?
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 25 December 2020 12: 44
        +9
        How can you register a company in Germany without a local registration?


        Easy. I am an EU citizen and in 2 minutes and for 2 euros, via the Internet, I can open a company everywhere in the EU and pay taxes and money for retirement in Germany or Spain or wherever I choose. I will also consult with the local bukhgalter and see. The German pension is better than the Bulgarian one.
        1. Svetlana
          Svetlana 25 December 2020 12: 57
          0
          No. It's never easy. To open a German company (firm), you need a local registration. It is required both at the Gewerbeamt registration authority and at the bank to open an account. This is not done via the Internet and for no more than 2 euros. A bank account is free, and registration is ... something about 20 euros or a little more. I do not remember.
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 25 December 2020 13: 01
            +2
            You can register your overseas branch, but the company itself.


            Yes, you need to look at the subtleties of the bra. There is also a possibility of local registration. I'll work on the issue and choose an option. Even with a local branch I can put all the work through it and that's it.
            1. Svetlana
              Svetlana 25 December 2020 13: 13
              0
              This is not accounting subtleties. these are bureaucratic subtleties.
              I know Polish builders who, having typed khokhlov, wanted to open their companies in Germany. No ... a. Today they operate in Germany as Polish firms. (under contracts with German customers). I know a Lithuanian who wanted to open a German transport company and who also failed. I know a Russian who lives in Germany and who opened a company for himself in one day.
              1. Keyser soze
                Keyser soze 25 December 2020 13: 16
                0
                These are not accounting subtleties. these are bureaucratic subtleties.


                I agree, my colleague, but first I have to calculate exactly the accounting details of what, how and where I will pay, and then we will fight the bureaucracy.
    4. Campanella
      Campanella 25 December 2020 13: 08
      +4
      The backbone of a stable economy is sane economic policy.
      And who will be her donkey is not important.
    5. nedgen
      nedgen 25 December 2020 16: 32
      +3
      By the way, however, Eugene probably rightfully minus. Yes, you (sorry about you) cite the example of Germany with its 54% of jobs, but you contradict yourself. After all, according to your opinion, 46% of jobs are created by the state and large companies, and large companies create 52% of GDP. And this means that labor is more productive there. And besides, if it weren't for this company, WHO would create the work of most of the medium and small companies? (I'm not talking about traders, but from small companies such an absolute majority). Your name is the opinion of Ivan Kostov when he destroyed large factories. His opinion was "why the hell do we need large factories in Germany ..." Then he brought it up. BUT without large companies (public or private, it does not matter, the main thing is how to manage them) neither a normal ship or vessel nor a normal car motor or car can be made. And if you assemble a car from parts and a medium or even a small company can produce all or at least some of these parts, an average or small company CANNOT. About carrier rockets and planes at least 6-10 local and others like them I don't even stutter. Why go far. Even a small company DOESN'T MAKE even an ordinary railway platform. Yours faithfully hi
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 25 December 2020 19: 23
        +1
        After all, according to your opinion, 46% of jobs are created by the state and large companies, and large companies create 52% of GDP. A


        Colleague, I am not against large enterprises and concerns. I am for the balance of the economy and for a good attitude towards small and medium-sized companies, which, in my vision of the economy, create a lot of jobs and GDP.

        Your name is the opinion of Ivan Kostov when he destroyed large factories.


        This is our Bulgarian theme and it is unfamiliar to Russians, so I will not answer at length. I am not a fan of I. Kostov - a socialist, underachieved person. But those enterprises were totally unviable, with an outdated base and equipment and an unnecessary product. There is something to hang it on the lantern, but not. laughing
        Best regards hi
        1. nedgen
          nedgen 25 December 2020 22: 43
          +3
          Between, however, far, even to be honest, no more than 50%, if not less, were not viable. If you remember the chemical industry and glassmakers, he destroyed with one stroke of the pen. And they survived in the most terrible years for the economy. Until 1997, if you remember, interest per annum reached 400%. And they survived. Even the shipbuilding plant had every chance to survive WITHOUT privatization for 1 (one) lion. It’s just that the Minister of Economy didn’t need to bribe the Poles. etc. And the destruction of the shipyard resulted in the DESTRUCTION of more than 40, according to other estimates, 000 jobs. And accordingly, many metalworking and even woodworking plants and factories were left without a confident income. Etc. etc. Yes, there were factories that were unprofitable but not 70%. Not even 000%. The myth is that ALL or even most of the factories were operating at a loss. And did the ocean fisherman work at a loss? To hell with two, and the Democrats destroyed it first of all. The unprofitability of ALL factories is not even a myth, it is a FALSE in capital letters. And you know this very well. If, under the conditions of the period 100-50, we set, say, the economy of any country, even Germany, the USA or Japan, you know how it all would end. (the same as ours) Now the states listed above would be among the states of the third world. So don't tell me that ALL the giants of socialism were working at a loss. (two examples are Neftokhim in Burgas and a metallurgical plant in Debelt). You yourself know what you will do. And unfortunately nobody will touch Ivan. Knows too much. Therefore, he was not even removed as Lukanov. They are afraid that he has some insurance hidden away with compromising evidence. Although I also do small business, unfortunately not in Bulgaria. And for this, too, thanks to the Dermocrats. hi
  7. tatra
    tatra 25 December 2020 12: 16
    +12
    To begin with, businessmen and oligarchs have ruined all industries in comparison with socialism. And what is a large, medium, small business in Russia? This is mainly speculation in natural resources and raw materials, products, goods, money, services, catering, paid education - mainly at high prices for the people. There is practically no productive business.
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 25 December 2020 12: 36
      +2
      And that's the problem. 20% of the population produce products for themselves and the rest 80%. And the crisis is generally always among the service sector.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 25 December 2020 15: 14
        +5
        One with a bipod, seven with a spoon. hi
        1. Lexus
          Lexus 26 December 2020 03: 41
          +1
          "Some have empty cabbage soup, while others have small pearls." (FROM)
      2. 2 Level Advisor
        2 Level Advisor 25 December 2020 19: 40
        +4
        they do not produce for the 80s .. now they sell ours, a lot of who and what? there is, of course, but a little .. it is the Chinese who mainly produce for everyone .. and for these 20 percent too .. for example tools .. The problem is not in services, etc., but in the fact that there is no production of its own - this is not 80 percent are to blame (who are simply looking for where to make money), and by their hands are drivers who do not create conditions for production in the country.
        crisis among services? Nope .. services - those who are really special will be in demand even in a crisis .. and those who leave "are not his" .. you also need to be able to work with people ..
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 25 December 2020 15: 57
      +4
      And what is a large, medium, small business in Russia?
      ..As F. Ranevskaya used to say: When I start writing my memoirs, then the phrases: "I was born in the family of a poor oil industrialist ..." - nothing works for me. smile
    3. Mishka78
      Mishka78 25 December 2020 16: 52
      +4
      And this is a political problem, not an economic one.
      What is production? This is a long-term investment. These are fixed assets, trained personnel, a well-established procurement and sales system, stable taxes, etc.
      In our country, the game is started for a long time either by very rich people, for whom, if anything, losses are not critical, or by ardent enthusiasts who burn out in 8 cases out of 10.
      And why? The answer is simple.
      The biggest problem is that there are no clear RULES.
      Investing in something long in our country is simply scary, tk. a sea of ​​factors that can deprive you of everything. And these are not business risks, but risks that are completely beyond the control of the investor.
      Our laws are revised and replayed permanently, I plan one rate of return on investments, and the state raises the discount rate and raises the cost of credit, or raises taxes and excises, etc.
      The game for a long time in our country is absolutely unpredictable. Before everyone's eyes, there was a collapse of the country and its economy in 1991, in 1998, in 2009, 2014, now, etc.
      What the hell are investors who would be willing to invest in the long-term we are waiting for here? They made a quick profit, surpassed it in the dollar and kicked it out of the country out of sin ... They withdraw $ 8-10 billion monthly, according to the Central Bank of Russia. Half a trillion rubles a month. 6 trillion a year. The annual budget of the Russian Federation is 16,5 trillion.
      And there - he decided to invest for a long time in business in the Russian Federation and sat in a pre-trial detention center, like Calvi ...

      Unfortunately, the feedback between people, entrepreneurs and the authorities has been lost.
      Power at any level is not responsible to anyone except Putin.
      And this is the most (well, it seems to me) a serious problem of our government.
      All the steps of this power are assigned from above. And they rotate from above.
      They are trusted as much as possible in a spider situation in the same bank.
      Nobody cares about people. Therefore, the current situation began to take on the features of that of the early 20th century. The aristocracy was completely cut off from the people.
      The ending is known. Therefore, the demand for the left deviation of power is constantly growing. Therefore, Stalin and Lenin occupy all the first places in social polls, no matter how they twist the counters, etc.
      At the same time, the problem with the left is that there are no leaders. Well, this is not Zyuganov with Mironov ... Clean water opportunists.
      But as soon as a leader appears (and he appears, I am absolutely sure of this), further events will be impossible to stop.
  8. Dzerjinskiy56
    Dzerjinskiy56 25 December 2020 12: 19
    -10%
    The essence of the article boils down to the fact that you need to carry out a tax amnesty !!! They were not warned that cheating should not be done and there is such a program. Poor businessmen
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 12: 34
      +6
      They were not warned that cheating should not be done and there is such a program.

      If the state itself cheats, why shouldn't businessmen?
      1. Dzerjinskiy56
        Dzerjinskiy56 25 December 2020 12: 42
        -5
        EVERYONE should live by the law, without exception, if you want to live in a normal country !!! There is no need to justify your crimes (the state is also cheating). Or it will last forever.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 25 December 2020 13: 01
          +9
          EVERYONE should live by the law, without exception, if you want to live in a normal country !!! There is no need to justify your crimes (the state is also cheating). Or it will last forever.

          You state beautifully ... only in isolation from reality ... when one can violate the constitution with impunity and others demand to live according to it.
          Until the government itself learns to live by fair laws, it has no moral right to demand something from its citizens. hi
    2. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 25 December 2020 12: 35
      +5
      The whole problem is that if you are a trader, a lawyer or some other consultant, there is no problem for you to have the same garbage can.

      But if you have production, then your company can no longer be thrown into the trash can with one movement of the hand.

      And it is the production that suffers. Moreover, not all. And only those who do not have friends and relatives where necessary.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 25 December 2020 15: 15
        +5
        Quote: Sancho_SP
        But if you have production, then your company can no longer be thrown into the trash can with one movement of the hand.

        The firm is not allowed, you are allowed. Proven by Furgal.
        1. Sancho_SP
          Sancho_SP 25 December 2020 15: 36
          0
          Well, what, this is a redistribution of power. There is no truth here, only strength. In comparison with the young years of the same Furgal, they still treat him humanely. He's not particularly sorry for him.


          But if a person just simply built a production, and then he was moved - it's sad.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 25 December 2020 16: 05
            +5
            Quote: Sancho_SP
            He's not particularly sorry for him.

            I don’t know, although he did not build Amurstal, he managed rationally. Bykov managed Krasmash much more efficiently than Deripaska. And he did not skimp on social services for Krasnoyarsk.
            Understand, it's not even a matter of building, creating, or buying - the fact is that in our kingdom-state you can easily squeeze your property. Moreover, with the use of administrative and power resources. An example of Grudinin in pursuit of Furgal. hi
    3. Blackmokona
      Blackmokona 25 December 2020 12: 41
      -1
      This means that there is no need to change the rules of the game retroactively.
      Imagine you agreed with your partner that you give him 100 hats, and he gives you X rubles. By your calculations, this would be profitable and good. And then it turns out that there are 400 hats in the contract for all the same rubles and you go to the bottom
  9. Proton
    Proton 25 December 2020 12: 21
    +7
    The author has raised a very burning topic.
    All of the above takes place.
    For a very long time, you can talk about how the state "supports" small business. Only you understand that the authorities do not need us from the word at all.
  10. tarabar
    tarabar 25 December 2020 12: 25
    +14
    Article is a bold plus! Our accounting department constantly submits copies of documents to the bank in tons to confirm transactions and unblock the account. There is a feeling that the bank is not a financial and credit organization whose task is to transfer YOUR funds at your orders, but a kind of fiscal punitive body indicating how they should be properly disposed of. About the tax and garbage companies with VAT in general a fairy tale. You are told: "You did not exercise discretion when choosing a client" and point, here are the additional charges. So catch the crooks, which is why they are attached to me. We cannot find them, and you are not running from anyone.
  11. Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 25 December 2020 12: 32
    -1
    Initially the wrong message.

    The economy has a certain development limit when enough consumer goods are produced. And the main problem of recent centuries is that these goods are produced by 10-40% of the population. All the rest, depending on the degree of development of countries, is the so-called service sector, as well as the state apparatus.

    All crises, stagnations and the like occur from the fact that this entire service sector cannot divide industrial products among themselves.
  12. A_Lex
    A_Lex 25 December 2020 12: 44
    +14
    Entrepreneurs are not a significant part of the population in any country in the world. The lion's share of people are always employed. Those. if, for example, take a company with 50 employees. Of these, only 1 person will be an entrepreneur - the owner. All others are salaried employees. The reasons for this are prosaic. Most people don't want to be entrepreneurs. People want to work, do business, but few people want to do sales.

    As for the Russian "economy", it will not grow because it is oriented towards the export of raw materials. In this situation, the main competitive advantage of the Russian Federation is cheap labor. For which, among other things, the ruble is often undervalued.

    The growth of the economy and the growth of the well-being of society is possible only in one case - when the economy is primarily oriented towards a capacious domestic market, which in turn implies the need for a solvent consumer within the country itself. And it is not resources that are exported, but technologically complex goods with high added value, which in turn requires highly qualified personnel, whose work cannot be cheap. The main problem of the Russian economy is a very small group of people who benefit from the export of raw materials. And this problem could be easily solved if there was a dictator in the Russian Federation who showed political will. Let me remind you that in Russia, under real dictators like Grozny, Peter I or Stalin, boyars were always cut off. Whereas now, as under Brezhnev, the situation is reversed - the boyars in chocolate. And the whole dictatorship is mainly portrayed on TV. In the Russian Federation, the situation is akin to Great Britain. The first person is like an English queen - reigns, but does not rule.
  13. iouris
    iouris 25 December 2020 12: 44
    +6
    Who are the entrepreneurial citizens in the way? Yes, everyone.
  14. Ramadan
    Ramadan 25 December 2020 12: 45
    -8
    The author was either pinned down himself for cashing, or by some kind of dogbot. He clearly hints to go back 15 years ago, when all reports were submitted on paper and every quarter there were stupefied queues at the tax office to submit it.
    What he described is yes, everyone knows about it, who comes across, but it became difficult to "stir up" entrepreneurs with cash or tax optimization. Yes, somewhere the regulators go too far, then along the chain banks cover their fifth point at the expense of customers. At the state level, there is a serious fight against cash-in. I know that in the Altai Territory one such organizer has already been imprisoned, the partner managed to dump over the cordon.
    But isn't this why small business is developing in Russia? Why did you not open the topic to the end?
    , especially not for VO.
    1. alex tsk
      alex tsk 25 December 2020 13: 03
      +7
      Ramazan, in order to pay an employee a salary of 100 thousand rubles, the employer must share with the state the amount of 46 thousand rubles.
      And that's just taxes, not counting rent / utility bills / maintenance costs and so on.
      The question is: what kind of production can survive with such a load on the business?
      We don't take air traders / sellers.
      Let's take a look at the production.
      1. Ramadan
        Ramadan 25 December 2020 13: 36
        +1
        With this, I just agree, because I myself am experiencing these difficulties! But does the author write about this in the article? That's what my comment is about. The fact that he listed this does not apply to the problem of small business, at least to a lesser extent than the question you raised!
  15. tatra
    tatra 25 December 2020 12: 48
    +6
    Business both in Russia and in the world has proven that it cannot exist without the support of the State. And what happened? Not only do businessmen receive the huge amount of money that went to the country and the people under socialism, but they also have to give part of the money left to the country and the people to businessmen to support them. And businessmen also believe that the State is obliged to help them with subsidies, cheap loans, give them orders, not touch them with checks.
    1. A_Lex
      A_Lex 25 December 2020 12: 53
      +8
      And businessmen also believe that the State is obliged to help them with subsidies, cheap loans, give them orders, not touch them with checks.


      They think so correctly. Businessmen are bourgeois. There is a bourgeois system in the Russian Federation. The state is an instrument serving the interests of a particular class. Thus, the bourgeois state serves the interests of the bourgeoisie. In fact, the country has a bourgeois dictatorship.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 25 December 2020 13: 10
        +11
        Not really. The ruling class in the Russian Federation is exactly what a large bourgeoisie. Her and dictatorship. And her interests - not a fig do not coincide with the interests of small bourgeois. For those are for the oligarchs the same fodder base as the proletariat. Despite all their mriyas on this topic ...
        1. A_Lex
          A_Lex 25 December 2020 13: 29
          -2
          The ruling class in the Russian Federation is precisely what the big bourgeoisie is. Her and dictatorship.


          There is no point in multiplying entities without a reason. The big and small bourgeoisie are parts of one general class "bourgeoisie". The current big bourgeois did not become big at once. Initially, compared to the current ones, they were also a trifle. Laws in a bourgeois state are adopted in the interests of the "bourgeoisie" class, and those who succeed in the competitive struggle will be able to use them best of all. The highest success is to grow into an oligarch, i.e. succeed enough to be able to buy political decisions, i.e. so that the laws by which the whole society lives are written specifically in the interests of your beloved.
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 25 December 2020 13: 38
            +7
            Well, what about without a reason? There are insurmountable contradictions between the big and the petty bourgeoisie. At least the fact that the small wants to become large, and the large, by definition, seeks to destroy competitors in the bud. In addition, the petty bourgeois is anarchic - even Lenin wrote that "The petty bourgeoisie resists all state intervention, accounting and control, both state-capitalist and state-socialist."

            Thus, the laws of society are written precisely in the interests of the oligarchy, and not at all of the petty bourgeois. Consequently, the inside of the bourgeois class is full of contradictions, which the proletariat can well play on.



            There are two bourgeoisies in modern Russia. One, this is a very narrow stratum of mature and overripe capitalists who, in the person of the Octobrist and the Cadet, are in fact engaged in dividing between themselves and the Purishkevichs the present political power, the present political privileges.
            The other bourgeoisie is a very wide stratum of completely immature, but energetically striving to mature, small and partly medium-sized farmers, mainly peasants, who in fact have to decide not at all about privileges in the present era of Russia's historical life, but about not starving to death. from the Purishkevichs.
            As a result of the struggle, a completely bourgeois Russia will inevitably turn out, painted entirely or predominantly in one of these two "colors." Needless to say, for the wage worker this struggle is by no means indifferent; on the contrary, if he is conscious, then he interferes in it in the most energetic way, trying to get the peasant to follow him and not the liberal
            1. A_Lex
              A_Lex 25 December 2020 13: 51
              +1
              There are insurmountable contradictions between the big and the petty bourgeoisie.


              Their contradictions are a natural consequence of the competition, since any competition tends to monopoly, and the monopolist, in turn, seeks to maintain the achieved status quo, i.e. to the closure of the captured market from the entry of new players.

              Thus, the laws of society are written precisely in the interests of the oligarchy, and not at all of the petty bourgeois.


              The laws of society are written in the interests of the oligarchy, because under the conditions of a bourgeois state, the oligarchy can influence the legislators, but the petty bourgeois cannot.

              There are two bourgeoisies in modern Russia


              The key word is "modern". Those. at that time, the peasants did not have any other effective, understandable and effective for each form of carrying out activities other than that which was regarded as bourgeois, i.e. when a person works for himself, for his own household.
          2. 2 Level Advisor
            2 Level Advisor 25 December 2020 14: 44
            +2
            "The greatest success is to grow into an oligarch, that is, to be successful enough to be able to buy political decisions."
            Personally, I have no such goal, to become an oligarch. The more money, the more difficult life is and the more people who want to take it away from you ..
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 25 December 2020 16: 28
              +8
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              The highest success is to grow into an oligarch, i.e. succeed enough to buy political decisions "

              in place of the oligarch can only appoint a SCAR, and the number of such vacancies is very limited, and the SCAR has a lot of friends.
              1. 2 Level Advisor
                2 Level Advisor 25 December 2020 16: 38
                +1
                Specifically, in our country, I think - you are right .. about the top 10 richest, for sure .. well .. in the hundred richest, there are not only friends ..
            2. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 25 December 2020 19: 08
              +2
              Quote: Level 2 Advisor
              Personally, I have no such goal, to become an oligarch. The more money, the more difficult life is and the more people who want to take it away from you.

              This is not about you, but about the class as a whole. Your single example is about nothing.
              1. 2 Level Advisor
                2 Level Advisor 25 December 2020 19: 23
                +1
                you know, I think a peasant, an official or a worker would not mind, you think they massively oppose "Succeed enough to be able to buy political decisions, that is, so that the laws by which the whole society lives are written specifically in the interests of your beloved." and a doctor and a plumber and a shopkeeper ... just wanting is not harmful .. being able and wanting are two different things .. both for the petty bourgeois and for the worker are only dreams .. in any case - in our country .. otherwise I have one gets the impression that you consider any entrepreneur, by default, ready to “devour babies” for the sake of money, and everyone else is incapable of “doing bad things” for their sake ..
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 25 December 2020 19: 56
                  +1
                  You have the wrong impression. However, you generally do not understand some very simple things. This naive attempt of yours to prove that they are very good entrepreneurs is simply ridiculous. Do you understand the point here is mainly not in moral qualities, but in the economic system. And it is designed so that you will simply have to become an exploiter, stripping three skins from hired workers. Otherwise, you will not withstand the competition and will burn out. Otherwise, all people are not angels. If only because they are people.
                  1. 2 Level Advisor
                    2 Level Advisor 26 December 2020 07: 24
                    0
                    You did not understand me .. Entrepreneurs are not good and not bad, they are the same people as everyone else, just trying to be entrepreneurial .. And in principle, yes, they are for the economy, in theory, good, since small-scale business is the basis of the capitalist state. ...
                    3 skins? Well, there are some, and for example, in the civil service, too, in the army and anywhere .. People are not born entrepreneurs .. And the majority do not need "skins", but simply a conscientious performance of duties by an employee, or is this 3 skins in your opinion?
                    To summarize, I mean that entrepreneurs are not a special class, they are the same people, there are both good and bad among them.
                    But the regulation of this whole process, so that it is civilized, so that the entrepreneur observes all the laws and at the same time, as you say, does not "burn out" is a matter of the state.
                    we now have a system geared towards "big money", they have the momentum and the means to comply with all the norms (and do not comply, although they can, and should be "fought"). Small mediums simply do not have the means to comply with everything, or will there be such-no profit that it is easier to go to the civil service and not take a steam bath, do you think it will be better? Let the whole country go to the civil service and sit on the neck of the state - the whole country, except for big business? will there be a civil service and a large semi-business and at the same time capitalism is a good prospect?
                    In general, we are talking about the same thing, but slightly from different sides hi
                    1. IS-80_RVGK2
                      IS-80_RVGK2 26 December 2020 15: 35
                      0
                      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                      In general, we are talking about the same thing, but slightly from different sides

                      No, not about the same thing. You are looking at a highly idealized view of capitalism. I look like a realist. In this regard, I am even a greater capitalist than you. laughing You say small medium business is the basis of the state? This is a very controversial statement. Small medium-sized business means lower labor productivity, high overhead costs, no opportunities for large investments in science. As the current pandemic has shown, it is also low resistance to extreme situations. You yourself mention the fact that it is impossible to sufficiently comply with safety standards and other labor standards. What is the basis?
                      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                      To summarize, I mean that entrepreneurs are not a special class, they are the same people, there are both good and bad among them.

                      Again you do not want to categorically understand me. I'm telling you that the system is such that it simply forces the entrepreneur to become a villain. Otherwise you will not survive. And so the managers of some oil corporation do not care about the dying children in Iraq. Managers don't give a damn about kids mining cobalt in the worst conditions in Africa. I don't care about the nets that hang around factories in China to prevent suicide from hard monotonous maddening labor. And Deripaska and other managers of all ranks do not care about the future of people dismissed from closed factories. I don't care about dying out Russia, the USA, France, Germany, Japan. People are raw materials. It is profitable to bring it from where it is cheaper. And until we break this system, nothing will change.
                      1. 2 Level Advisor
                        2 Level Advisor 27 December 2020 10: 34
                        0
                        Makar .. you just do not share the big business of the Russian Federation with the small-scale business - you see it as a class with specific goals .. this is wrong .. there is a huge difference between the owner of a bakery in a small town and an oligarch ..
                        Why are small-sized ones the basis of the state? and why half of taxes are normal! capitalism collect from the small average? They employ half of the country .. let's then decide what we are talking about .. if it is about the Russian Federation, of course, we have small middle-class people who have no opportunity to become an oligarch like their workers .. it’s even a shame to call them the bourgeoisie in its classical concept .. and if at all about capitalism is another question. It turns out that you are simplifying by writing the baker and the oligarch into one mass.
                2. A_Lex
                  A_Lex 25 December 2020 20: 07
                  0
                  both for the petty bourgeois and for the worker, these are only dreams


                  On these dreams, or rather on the illusion that it is theoretically possible to achieve success, this whole system is supported. This is a bit like playing the lottery. A small part of the participants will win small amounts, while the overwhelming majority of the participants will never win a large prize. A large one is one that you don't have to work with anymore. And yet, despite this obvious truth, many people take part in the lottery.
                  1. Eroma
                    25 January 2021 21: 48
                    0
                    You are not right! negative people go into business not because they want to become an aligarh and be very rich! At the initial stage, no one thinks about it, the impetus for business is ALWAYS an idea or some opportunity that a person saw and he had the courage to try! wink
                    For example, you are an engineer and have created some kind of thing, and instead of proving the usefulness of its production to someone, you started to make it yourself. You are a manager in a company and in your work you noticed a market niche that no one will pay attention to and you rushed to master it. And so on, this is where it all starts, not greed. And many entrepreneurs literally plow with their own hands for 14 hours a day without vacation and sick leave for years!
                    1. A_Lex
                      A_Lex 25 January 2021 22: 26
                      0
                      And so on, this is where it all starts, not greed. And many entrepreneurs literally plow with their own hands for 14 hours a day without vacation and sick leave for years!


                      At the root of capitalism is greed, which drives entrepreneurial activity. They plow for 14 hours, working on their own, personal business, hoping that if the project is successful, it guarantees them a confident and comfortable life, which under capitalism is not initially guaranteed to anyone. To work 14 hours a day on just one idea, which is called on a voluntary basis, can only be afforded by someone who is already so well-off that he does not need to think about trivial earnings that cover current expenses.
                      1. Eroma
                        25 January 2021 23: 22
                        0
                        Do you go to work out of love for the work process? Or for the sake of wages? I am sure that salary is critical, so greed is at the core of your activities too! bully
                        Entrepreneurship is not only a desire for profit, it is a desire for results! You personally try to have more time to do something that you like, for example: buy a super material for renovating an apartment, which is sold at a discount today! Because without a discount, he will not pocket you. Is it greed or enterprise? wink
                        Many people are engaged in business, because it gives them free time and it is not always very profitable in comparison with the salary in the TOP company. People do business because they like it, it allows them to realize themselves, to arrange their lives as they want! Management of a large company and small business are generally different activities! Small business is a creative process, and the director of a company is a manager, there is no creativity, there are management schemes and assessment of business processes, in general, a different activity, a different attitude to business, people, to everything! Not all entrepreneurs can become real BUSINESSMEN! Yes, many do not strive to become them
                      2. A_Lex
                        A_Lex 26 January 2021 03: 14
                        0
                        Do you go to work out of love for the work process? Or for the sake of wages? I am sure that salary is critical, so greed is at the core of your activities too!


                        Under capitalism, you need money to live. To live like a human, you need a lot of money. At the same time, not every job is paid good money, allowing you to live like a human being. In this situation, everyone makes their own choice, but not everyone can afford to prefer self-realization to a good salary. Those. people may be motivated by greed, but it will not be possible to say that this is their natural state, since the whole system in which we all live only does that by artificially raising prices and lowering wages directly encourages them to earn more, spend less.

                        Entrepreneurship is not only a desire for profit, it is a desire for results! You personally try to have more time to do something that you like, for example: buy a super material for renovating an apartment, which is sold at a discount today! Because without a discount, he will not pocket you. Is it greed or enterprise?


                        This is a compulsory necessity. If we talk about the result as a goal, then the best repair is the one that bypasses you to the maximum, creating a minimum of problems for you. But again, under capitalism, repairs in this format will turn out to be an extremely expensive pleasure, which, in turn, not everyone can afford, therefore, in order to reduce the estimate, you will have to personally delve into all the subtleties.

                        Many people are engaged in business, because it gives them free time and it is not always very profitable in comparison with the salary in the TOP company.


                        Again, the problem of free time is acute under capitalism, when a person usually does not work where he wants, and the owner wants to exploit the employee to the maximum.
      2. A_Lex
        A_Lex 25 December 2020 14: 48
        -1
        The ruling class in the Russian Federation is precisely what the big bourgeoisie is. Her and dictatorship.


        It is wrong to single out the oligarchy as a separate class and here's why. There is no big bourgeoisie without a petty one. It is impossible to do so that, on the one hand, the bourgeoisie is allowed, but at the same time the big bourgeoisie is prohibited.

        Oligarchs are a natural product of bourgeois society. Therefore, the oligarchs can be banned only in one way - to ban the bourgeoisie as a class. This was done in the USSR by criminal prosecution of the ownership of private property and the exploitation of man by man.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 25 December 2020 16: 08
          +5
          It is certainly not a separate class, but there are contradictions - there are also inside classes. So let's say highly skilled workers relate to the world in a completely different way than, say, loaders and janitors, right? Although they are all proletariat. It is the same with the bourgeoisie - they have the same global interests, like a cadaver - to crush everything and crumple, but the local-private ones are completely opposite.
          1. A_Lex
            A_Lex 25 December 2020 19: 45
            -1
            So let's say highly skilled workers relate to the world in a completely different way than, say, loaders and janitors, right? Although they are all proletariat.


            Under capitalism and within the framework of a consumer society, in which a highly skilled worker can be quite satisfied with his life, unlike, say, a loader, for the trivial reason of the difference in income and overall satisfaction from the work process.

            It is certainly not a separate class, but there are contradictions - there are also inside classes.


            There are contradictions wherever there are different interests. There can also be contradictions between parents and children, although they represent the same family. Concentration of attention on contradictions is only of academic interest. But in practice, this does nothing.

            You talk about socialism through the prism of capitalism, hiding behind quotes from Lenin, as if this is a kind of holy scripture and at the same time the ultimate truth. This is one of the ways to intelligently powder the brains of people who are convinced that the red theory is something final and frozen in granite and who stereotypically believe in authorities. It is significant how you separate the oligarchs from the rest of the bourgeoisie and tell tales that it will be quite possible to deal with the petty bourgeoisie. Of course, in order to preserve the order, it is better to sacrifice individual personalities than to stigmatize the entrepreneurial worldview as such.
            1. 2 Level Advisor
              2 Level Advisor 27 December 2020 10: 39
              0
              and you are simplifying .. how, in fact, it was necessary to inform Lenin to the broad masses of those who do not want / are not able to think .. there is an oil company or a tent on the corner - still a class enemy .. because if every warrior of the revolution begins to think, it will not work out "correct "revolution ..
              1. A_Lex
                A_Lex 28 December 2020 01: 09
                0
                and you simplify


                On the contrary. It makes no sense to complicate unless absolutely necessary. Purposefully trying to discern special subclasses within the classes and establish the presence of contradictions between them - this is a well-known academic desire to categorize everything around and prudently sort it out on the shelves. But in practice this theorizing for theorizing sake does not provide anything useful.
                Ultimately, when it comes to hypothetical transformations, people usually complain not about the insufficient elaboration of the theory or some erroneous provisions, but about the fact that "there is no such party", which, in general, kind of hints that the theory is here it is far from the main thing, otherwise the new people would not be the case.
  16. 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 25 December 2020 14: 39
    +2
    Personally, I don't need any help at all! it will be the best help, I can handle everything myself. I already wrote above why .. And where does the conclusion about the inability of business to exist independently in the world? From my acquaintances from the state, for example, only a few people receive help from me .. and if you are talking about all sorts of Rosneft, etc., then "help" is a very muddy thing .. and sometimes not really help ..
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 25 December 2020 19: 10
      +1
      Quote: Level 2 Advisor
      Personally, I don't need any help at all! it will be the best help, I can handle everything myself.

      Well, then you will burn out sooner or later. Unable to withstand the competition. With those who will be helped.
  17. Eroma
    26 January 2021 00: 10
    0
    Small businesses in the Russian Federation in the overwhelming majority work on their own funds and on "consumer loans" received as an individual in banks. Sometimes it is possible to catch a nishtyak from the state, for example, a subsidy in leasing agreements. There are lucky ones who got into some state programs, but I don't know them only on TV in commercials.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 25 December 2020 13: 00
    +1
    In a word - vague, dumb hemorrhoids, this is the reason that development does not occur.
    Take any sphere of human relationships, and most people try to avoid such situations, this is a completely natural barrier to "wrapping" any activity.
  • d4rkmesa
    d4rkmesa 25 December 2020 13: 03
    +3
    Honestly - I do not like entrepreneurs, since childhood and since the 90s, then this word was almost synonymous with the word "threw". At that time my father rattled, often, it was difficult to take what was mine, especially with money. Now, of course, it's difficult for everyone. The rules of the game have changed, yes. With VAT, at least, the author is not cunning, like many. =) "Everyone did it" is, of course, no excuse for the tax authorities. The inevitability of punishment works to a certain extent, as it should. I know such cases and worked within the organizations where this happened - believe me, there are no innocent sheep there. Everyone "bought documents" in order to pay less VAT. This is if it is an average business. Over time, the rules of the game will be settled and those who want to work for themselves will not disappear. I only disapprove of labeling - after all, sculpting "marks" on each ice cream or blister with activated carbon is nonsense. The system is imperfect, but you have to pay taxes, this is an axiom, gentlemen.
    1. Ruby
      Ruby 25 December 2020 13: 57
      +1
      That's it. You have to pay taxes in any country. Try to play with taxes in the states. No lawyer will undertake to defend you. There, a person can be publicly shot and you can be smeared, but with taxes there are practically no options.
      The author was really bent over the "wrong turn". You have to look where you send money. There are a lot of tools for this now for checking counterparties. The same VAT in the 7s was practically not a tax collected. The money was on the left and on the right, cases when they took for causal places were rare. The fact that the tax office has the ability to track VAT chains was already discussed 8-XNUMX years ago. Everyone knew that sooner or later they would have to pay, but very many continued to work as they did in the hope that they would carry it over.
  • Quetzalcoatl
    Quetzalcoatl 25 December 2020 13: 11
    +5
    Support for small and medium-sized businesses in our country is more and more in words. The economy is geared towards a large (raw material) business, where only OWN. They are, by and large, interested only in profit here and now. At the same time, the people, like a small business, are no more consumables (rip off more taxes to fill the budget). Wild capitalism in all its glory, with an inhuman face negative
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 25 December 2020 19: 12
      0
      And in the same USA where there are small and medium-sized businesses a shaft there dofiga of this human face is observed? Don't need these tales. Capitalism is essentially the same everywhere.
  • Dzerjinskiy56
    Dzerjinskiy56 25 December 2020 13: 16
    +1
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    EVERYONE should live by the law, without exception, if you want to live in a normal country !!! There is no need to justify your crimes (the state is also cheating). Or it will last forever.

    You state beautifully ... only in isolation from reality ... when one can violate the constitution with impunity and others demand to live according to it.
    Until the government itself learns to live by fair laws, it has no moral right to demand something from its citizens. hi

    Colleague, I agree with you about something. But understand this GOS SYSTEM better and did not think about it. It is necessary to change the SYSTEM radically (from political to moral)
  • Million
    Million 25 December 2020 13: 26
    +11
    What prevents recently appeared on TV
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 26 December 2020 03: 28
      +1
      Vlad hi , it won't come out of there.
  • ee2100
    ee2100 25 December 2020 13: 35
    +4
    The article is correct. Until 2014, small and medium-sized businesses developed under one law, which were announced by the state, both officially and conceptually. Since 2014, the approach to collecting VAT has changed, which gave rise to new "schemes" in business and led to an increase in the price of cash (let it be black), which naturally affects the price of the final product, and as you know, the population pays for it as a result.
    It has become almost impossible to compete in reality in one segment of products due to the fact that whoever has a hairy finger in the regulatory authorities wins this fight.
    This is of course idealism, but without an equal approach to all entrepreneurs on the part of the state, small and medium-sized businesses cannot develop. There should be clear and unchanging laws governing business.
    In the Celestial Empire, 2000 officials have been shot for corruption since 10000. We must take an example from the second, and maybe already the first economy in the world.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 25 December 2020 13: 53
    +4
    Quote: 7,62x54
    Author, do you own or run some kind of business? Do you have any experience?

    Quote: prior
    Well, what can be the development of entrepreneurship in an organized criminal group ?!

    Quote: Ingvar 72
    So maybe because the true goals of those in power differ from the declared ones?

    Marked with a legitimate "+" ...
    There are probably many reasons. But I will focus on one of the main of themthat hinders the development of entrepreneurship in Russia.

    And this???
    The Russian government has launched a large-scale fight against cashing money, with the help of which entrepreneurs avoid paying taxes.

    And these are the consequences of the reasons:
    There is not a single entrepreneur in Russia who has started a “successful” business without patronage, without a large bribe, without “lubricating” state gears. Especially mediocre are the "fairy tales" about Russian billionaires who started a business from scratch, such as:
    Galitsky takes out a loan of $ 30, buys Johnson & Johnson's products and sells them in small wholesale with very good profit.

    This consignment was either "counterfeit" or was taken out from customs. Those who have been in business or have friends doing business will understand.
    What is there to understand? Why and why ... A head of cabbage ... In the 90s, everything was divided in the course of criminal privatization. Squeezing your business into existing structures is so difficult that it cannot be described in any article.
    By the way, you, Mr. author, will not deny that the drug business is flourishing in Russia? Can you explain why this is happening?
    Or, four gambling zones are open in Russia ... "What" and how do underground casinos appear in Moscow?
    Correctly said:
    Quote: prior
    Well, what can be the development of entrepreneurship in an organized criminal group ?!

    And you have not calmed down and want to continue ...
    Everything that is written is just a saying. So to speak, a short essay on working conditions in Russia.
    But this is not the real problem for entrepreneurs.
    This is a consequence of a problem that I will discuss next time.

    Holy childish naivety:

    hi
  • Graduate student
    Graduate student 25 December 2020 14: 38
    +21
    our economy is stable. But for some reason, it just doesn't grow, despite all the achievements.

    Enemies are hindering the growth of our economy.yes
    Let's not point our fingers at enemies bully (joke)
  • From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 25 December 2020 14: 39
    +2
    The author is not quite in the subject. The problem with banks was three years ago. But the money could be withdrawn, for example, from the SP account to your own account as an individual. faces.
    About the tax. Well, yes, there is such a program "ASK-VAT", according to which the tax authorities see "gaps" in VAT. But it never worked in full mode. The ASK VAT tree can be built without breaks without paying VAT. There are only five ways to get around ASK VAT. An option is to do more input VAT, which can be deducted. It does not have to be paper VAT, it must be the same as the actual product. Where earlier the supply of this product was from non-VAT payers, deliver the same product for plus or minus comparable money, but from VAT payers with normal invoices (no breaks in the chain). How to do it is another question. The bottom line is that very simple and brazen schemes will die. And whoever built everything on them - they will no longer be able to work like that. Those will survive who work either completely honestly, or, give or take, do not deviate from the truth, but are a little cunning (and very cleverly cunning).
    The problem of entrepreneurs cannot only be that some types and sizes of business, in principle, cannot survive without cheating with taxes. Entrepreneurs do not want to reveal a more significant problem - while someone else is cheating, he can offer more competitive conditions, then you have to make the same choice. In principle, the market may not lose much if the possibility of cheating is closed to everyone at once, and a particular entrepreneur would be ready to put up with it. He is not ready to put up with the fact that he is being forced to work honestly, and the competitor somehow manages to win economically, obviously at the expense of cheating.
  • Mishka78
    Mishka78 25 December 2020 15: 45
    0
    There is only one problem. The state does not care about SMEs. Completely.
    We have state-monopoly capitalism.
    According to various estimates, the state owns 70-75% of the economy. In the camp of developed countries, the proportion is reversed.
    The share of SMEs in our economy is vanishingly small. Moreover, it is vanishingly not figurative, SME is actually dying out en masse.
    Social Darwinism is also characteristic of our economy. Helping the strong while ignoring the weak. (For example, benefits and infusions of Rosneft, Gazprom, Sberbank, etc. during the period of sanctions and complete ignoring of SME problems when pandemic restrictions are introduced).
    The topic of nationalization of losses and privatization of profits is highly developed. The clearest examples are the reorganization of Opener, Bina, Promsvyazbank. The former owners of these banks withdrew (read, stole) hundreds of billions of rubles from them. 1,5 trillion from our taxes was spent on the rehabilitation of these banks. rubles.

    As for 115-FZ, yes, it's trash and frenzy. It is generally inadequate to the realities of the Russian Federation.
    1. A_Lex
      A_Lex 25 December 2020 20: 19
      -1
      According to various estimates, the state owns 70-75% of the economy.
      Social Darwinism is also characteristic of our economy. Helping the strong while ignoring the weak. (For example, benefits and infusions of Rosneft, Gazprom, Sberbank, etc. during the period of sanctions and complete ignoring of SME problems when pandemic restrictions are introduced).


      The situation is similar in the USA. A typical example from there is the 2008 crisis, when the problems caused by large-scale speculations were flooded with money from the budget, read the population. This I am already silent about the regular tax cuts for the rich, which has been happening there since the mid-80s.
  • Sergej1972
    Sergej1972 25 December 2020 15: 49
    +3
    Maybe the attitude of people changes? For example, I am well aware of the importance of small and medium-sized businesses. But psychologically, there is no sympathy for him. And many small businessmen (not all of them, of course, and not even the majority), to be honest, resemble moronic, but at the same time very hit ... comrades. And some of them, for some unknown reason, decided that they have the ability to engage in entrepreneurship, although there are no prerequisites for this.
    1. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh 25 December 2020 16: 14
      0
      Nobody wants to pump up the competence of an entrepreneur. Everyone hopes to slip through the competence of cunning)))
      1. A_Lex
        A_Lex 25 December 2020 20: 30
        -1
        Entrepreneur competence


        There is a useful competence for society "organizer of the production of a high-quality and demanded product."
        And there is a competence, harmful to society, "organizer of the system of making a profit in any way".
        So in order to succeed in the first competence, you do not need to own the second competence. And in order to succeed in the second competence, it is not at all necessary to produce a product, the consumer quality and production efficiency of which are the criteria for the successful possession of the first competence.
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 25 December 2020 16: 13
    0
    "What hinders the development of entrepreneurship in Russia?" - funny people who write such articles.)))) Based on myths from the late 80s.
    The small business there lives so happily at the expense of plundering other countries.
    Corruption is much larger there. There, money is stolen in trillions.
    Stop believing in stories about democracy, the rule of law, low taxes. For 30 years we could have figured it out. Who did not understand that sucker.
  • Alexey Polyakh
    Alexey Polyakh 25 December 2020 17: 10
    0
    Allied monopolists, killing competition, interfere in order to seize the pockets of buyers.
    1. hhhhhhh
      hhhhhhh 25 December 2020 21: 09
      +1
      Didn't like the scoop, hawai capitalism with a full spoon.
  • hermit
    hermit 25 December 2020 18: 37
    +2
    Why is this entrepreneurship needed? In my opinion, it is not necessary from the word "absolutely".
    1. agond
      agond 25 December 2020 19: 03
      0
      Quote: hermit
      Why is this entrepreneurship needed? In my opinion, it is not necessary from the word "absolutely".

      Question as an answer.!
  • ccsr
    ccsr 25 December 2020 19: 55
    +2
    Author:
    Eremushkin Vadim
    Often, the entire transaction for small entrepreneurs is drawn up in the form of correspondence in messengers or in the mail with clarifications by phone. And at the end, only one document is actually drawn up: "UPD", or an invoice with a waybill (for those who have not switched to a universal transfer document).

    I do not know where such a "paradise" exists, but I have been in a small business for 24 years, and this reminds me of the nineties - the beginning of the XNUMXs, when there was a raspberry spill at all, but even then we always entered into contracts when I worked in a small wholesale firm, but the truth is in Moscow. And I remember very well how tax discipline was gradually tightened all the time, and therefore now I have no idea how to carry out calculations without a package of documents, or without an online cash register, with reporting to the tax authority.
    Yes, and they threw me more than once, so even in order to save your funds, you always check the counterparty yourself, if possible, and its registration, so as not to incur losses.
    Everything that is written is just a saying. So to speak, a short essay on working conditions in Russia.

    I will just say that it is now possible to work in a small business without violating the reporting to the tax authorities, and this is not only in Moscow. But the whole point is that many do not want to work "in white" even now, although I specifically went for a patent as an individual entrepreneur in order to simplify my life. Indeed, it is much easier to work on a patent - this will be confirmed by those who themselves switched from 6% of turnover or 15% of profit.
    The problem, in my opinion, is that a huge amount of income in small business is not taken into account at all and is not taxed, and those who work in this area know how the same Chinese work in Moscow. As people from the Caucasus, they do business here, changing gasket firms almost every six months or a year, and then they cannot be found at all. In a word, it is difficult for a small business to survive by working honestly, but it is more enraging that honest entrepreneurs are rotten by various inspection structures, and all swindlers are excused from any inspections for bribes.
    I agree with some of the author's conclusions, but far from all. I will only note that I can speak only for small business, as for medium and large, I am not so familiar with it to draw conclusions. The only thing I can say is that whoever has successfully completed a small business from scratch can work in any position in medium and large business, because such a person has learned everything in his own skin and is no longer afraid of anything, but knows and knows a lot.
  • for
    for 25 December 2020 20: 00
    +2
    Almost all business from us buy - sell. And what would you not be able to produce not competitively with China.
  • Kushka
    Kushka 25 December 2020 20: 44
    0
    Quote: Keyser Soze
    How can you register a company in Germany without a local registration?


    Easy. I am an EU citizen and in 2 minutes and for 2 euros, via the Internet, I can open a company everywhere in the EU and pay taxes and money for retirement in Germany or Spain or wherever I choose. I will also consult with the local bukhgalter and see. The German pension is better than the Bulgarian one.

    Our businessman flew to his partner in Germany. That him
    met at the airport in my car and drove to
    town - 15 thousand people, half work at its plant.
    - Sorry, dear, we will stop by my bank for 15 minutes,
    my card is out. We stopped in the manager's office
    Hans, meet my partner. Very nice, Karl and I
    have known each other for 30 years, children in the same class ..... bring a card.
    Hans delves into the study of the form, then says - Karl,
    give me your passport (?!) Our "falls from the chair" - guys, what are you
    I was told about 30 years, about children, what kind of passport?
    In short, for 10 minutes the Germans could not understand what ours wanted from them.
    (as in the instructions, as it should be). The curtain.
  • hhhhhhh
    hhhhhhh 25 December 2020 21: 11
    +3
    Naive, where did you get the idea that there is something for the people under capitalism?
    Karl Marx warned us in the book "Capital"
    Quote:
    "Provide capital with 10% profit, and the capital agrees to any use, at 20% it becomes lively, at 50% it is positively ready to break its head, at 100% it violates all human laws, with 300% there is no crime for which it does not would venture to go, at least under pain of the gallows "
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 26 December 2020 05: 40
    0
    It is strange that there are so few comments. You can partly write off on the main contingent of the site-retirees who already do not need anything. The topic is really one of the most important for the future of the country, well, since we are going to build capitalism.
    Here, in my opinion, the roots of the problem of perestroika are growing. When the STATE allowed the resale of state products without a mechanism for control and punishment for speculative actions. Buy metal for 30 kop and sell it for 30 bucks at the same plant. This gave the basis for the perverted work of the business - wind up the price tag from the lantern and you are in a chocolate. Officials and lads immediately pounced on the demand to share essentially super-profits, which gave a powerful impetus to corruption. We have unspoken rules for doing business in the Russian Federation in the ugliest tangle twisted, cheating, kickback, cheating, the conclusion is far away. After all, it is no accident that any medium and small entrepreneur, and even large ones, also have no principle of their own personal property and hides by any means, and this is because of this, after all, that the rules dictate to hide everything. And it is possible to change this only by a complete change in one day of the entire complex of laws on taxes and part of the admin and criminal articles to those that were thought out in advance. Evolutionarily, it is impossible to change something - they will change one, so a bunch of another just doesn’t move, but while they change the fifth tenth, it takes a lot of time and the desire to try to work in white in such a mess.
    1. A_Lex
      A_Lex 26 December 2020 12: 17
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      The topic is really one of the most important for the future of the country, well, since we are going to build capitalism.


      Capitalism, for the sake of personal enrichment, was going to build a handful, imagining themselves "elite", which deceived society. It is clear that there is no point in discussing the prospects of a hopeless system, which, by definition, cannot be repaired or modernized. 30 years have clearly proved that the policy of liberalism, coupled with a stake on entrepreneurship, lead Russia to stagnation and degradation. And the opinion of several thousand people who thoroughly warm their hands on this does not matter.
      1. Ruby
        Ruby 26 December 2020 13: 12
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        We already had a socialist policy with a planned economy, when various levels of state planning officials decided how many women's boots should be sent in size 36, and where family cowards were. And the best friends were sellers who could buy at least something. Those who are older remember the result very well. Personally, I don't want to return to the "happy 80s".
        In my opinion, it was this system that led to the collapse of the Union. It is not possible to plan everything, especially in a country like the USSR. I myself saw felt boots in the shops of Uzbekistan, and skullcaps in Zyryanka. This is just a special case of planning everything and everyone. The state needed to keep the strategic industries. Mineral resources, military-industrial complex, energy, and so on. And to private traders to give up all the low-level products such as light industry, trade, food and develop this topic at the state level with effective regulatory mechanisms. In fact, China is following this path. But where we are and where China can be seen without glasses.
        1. A_Lex
          A_Lex 26 December 2020 13: 35
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          The happy 80s are "the USSR on the decline", which by the will of the degenerated party elite stopped building socialism long ago and was preparing to start building capitalism at the official level, which was started by the policy of Perestroika.

          On the other hand, even in the 80s, a Soviet person had no problems to find a job, for which it was not necessary to come to the capital from all over the country to work, regularly eat high-quality food even within the minimum wage, live in an apartment for which it was necessary to take a loan and from which they could not be kicked out, calmly pay for a penny communal apartment, travel around the country cheaply, regularly relax in sanatoriums and health resorts as part of a paid vacation, work no more than 8 hours a day with guaranteed 2 days off a week, study and receive treatment for free , to live in an environment safe from crime, including not knowing what legalized bandits are - collectors and not facing fraudsters and swindlers who are given a green street under capitalism to nightmare the population, live in a calm economic environment, without constant expectation that tomorrow will again raise taxes or prices for everything that is possible, and the increase in wages will not be able to cover the difference, and therefore you will either have to search for working out, or taking out a loan, or cutting back on consumption.

          Those. even in the 80s, a Soviet person, in comparison with today's life, so to speak, had many pluses, and of the minuses there were problems in order to get fashionable clothes and fashionable food, which, obviously, was not an important life problem for every Soviet person, but only for those who wanted to show off. Well, or for shopaholics, whose purpose in life is to regularly purchase a wide variety of goods in order to experience the joy of the very fact of buying a new thing, which is a mental illness, and therefore the opinion of this contingent can be neglected.

          No one is interested in what you personally observed, because these personal fantasies that the Internet is full of are completely unverifiable fairy tales.
          1. Ruby
            Ruby 26 December 2020 14: 02
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            If you refer socks, baby food and baby clothes to fashionable clothes, then you are probably right. The supply in the Union was very different. If you are not aware, then in Yakutia already in the 80s, immediately after the Olympics, coupons for meat and butter were introduced. Then it only got worse. at the end of the USSR, you can't buy anything without cards. The same controversial opinion is at the expense of happy pensioners and proletarians. My grandmother, having worked all her life on a collective farm, received a pension of about 20 rubles. My aunt is at a factory in Odessa in the region of 200. I don’t remember what they would have rolled around sanatoriums. And people for the most part also tried to make money. The northern and generally the north did not go to construction sites for romance, but to earn money for the same house or cooperative, a car, further down the list. Now the role of the Soviet North is performed by non-rubber. In fact, nothing has changed.
            1. A_Lex
              A_Lex 26 December 2020 14: 14
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              If you are not aware, then in Yakutia already in the 80s, immediately after the Olympics, coupons for meat and butter were introduced.


              Do not know. Document this information. Provide documentary information that it has been on sale for a long time, i.e. for a year or more there were no socks, baby food, baby clothes.

              Then it only got worse. at the end of the USSR, you can't buy anything without cards.


              The USSR's "exhaustion" lasted for several years and was created specifically in order to anger the population, which transferred this anger to the government of the country, i.e. to the party and to the party elite. Against this background, such characters as Yeltsin were perceived as heroes at that time. Then the country collapsed, which was sold to the population in the form of a supposedly renewed union - the CIS. Those. once again deceived. The purpose of the deception is simple - to embezzle common assets into personal property, plunge society into poverty and force it to plow for the beneficiaries.

              In fact, nothing has changed.


              Lying. However, continue to lie further, as you and others like you have done for the last 30 years, for the sake of denigrating the USSR, in order to whitewash the current regime against this background. It may seem strange, but such a lie is an extremely useful thing to understand that the beneficiaries of the current regime will stop at nothing to maintain the status quo they have achieved.
              1. Ruby
                Ruby 26 December 2020 14: 50
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                https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-zen_doc/3413523/pub_5ec651ddde50fd335207e911_5ec654b142ca641b63e876f6/scale_2400
                Here is a link to Irkutsk. The internet is full of information. And about Yakutsk, and about Kamchatka and about Sakhalin. Look. I am not going to denigrate the USSR, but I have no desire to idealize that system either. And even more so the late USSR. Such hypocrisy as at party and Komsomol meetings today still needs to be looked for.
                1. A_Lex
                  A_Lex 26 December 2020 15: 02
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                  Here is a link to Irkutsk.


                  If you think that a screen on which a piece of paper is shown next to a movie ticket and a trolleybus ticket is documentary evidence of the introduction of the coupon system in Yakutia, you are grossly mistaken. You wrote above that "in Yakutia already in the 80s, immediately after the Olympics, coupons for meat and butter were introduced." Provide documentary evidence of these alleged facts.

                  The following documents are accepted: decisions of local authorities, information in the union or local media of that period, information from historical literature characterizing that period of time.

                  The internet is full of information


                  The internet is full of lies from people like you. And you and others like you are lying for one simple reason - in order to convince people that under the Soviet system the life of an ordinary person was as hard as it is now. After that, such a person must make a simple conclusion that since the current system is no different from the one that was before, then nothing needs to be changed, but you just need to pull your strap further. Actually, just such a conclusion is needed by a few beneficiaries, in whose interests the entire current system is built.
                  1. Ruby
                    Ruby 26 December 2020 15: 18
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                    If you lived in Moscow during the Soviet era, then you probably felt good. In other regions it is not so good, and in some places it is quite bad. Nothing changes. Now the same majority of the capital's residents think everything is fine in the country. After all, Russia ends beyond the Moscow Ring Road.
                    I myself gave these coupons to a classmate at school. Fortunately, my mother worked in the dining room and our family had no problems with meat and butter.
                    And I never said that everything was bad in the Union. Of course not. People were better first of all.
                    1. A_Lex
                      A_Lex 26 December 2020 15: 25
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                      If you lived in Moscow during the Soviet era, then you probably felt good. In other regions it is not so good, and in some places it is quite bad.


                      Clear. As expected, there is no documentary evidence. But this, of course, does not bother the author of the lie, since his obvious goal is to disseminate without reflecting, which, in general, was understandable from the beginning.

                      Not anything ... the same ... not when


                      I advise you to tighten up your literacy. If you already then, according to your lies, "distributed coupons among your classmates," then by now such an alleged adult as you should have learned elementary literacy. Moreover, as you say, you still studied in that Soviet school, which gave real knowledge.

                      You don't have to answer me further. There is no point in wasting time on regular propagandists of the regime who lie according to the standard template.
                      1. Ruby
                        Ruby 26 December 2020 15: 38
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                        https://forum.ykt.ru/viewtopic.jsp?id=4310151 почитайте. К сожалению оригиналов не сохранилось :) не думал что понадобятся.
            2. ccsr
              ccsr 26 December 2020 16: 20
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              Quote: Yakut
              Aunt at a factory in Odessa in the area of ​​200.

              Don't be fake, because in the USSR there was a restriction on pensions, up to 132 rubles. And an increased pension could be received by the military, individual leaders and party leaders, honored athletes, artists, etc. A simple worker at a plant in Odessa could not get 200 rubles - no need to invent.
              Quote: Yakut
              Somehow I don't remember what they would have rolled around the sanatoriums.

              In sanatoriums - only in the direction of doctors. But in rest homes, and even in winter, almost all employees of large enterprises could travel. Even pensioners, veterans of enterprises, always met halfway in the trade union committee, though not in the summer.
              1. Ruby
                Ruby 26 December 2020 16: 52
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                Respected! You seem to be stuck in the illusion of your past. I wrote not about the pension 200, but about the salary. And the pensions, yes, were different. Collective farm pennies, in the north people earned 120-132 after working there for 15-20 years. On average, as far as I remember, around 60-80. It was possible to live, but without gingerbread. Mom, I remember, having earned the necessary seniority for a pension at 132, was very happy about this. True, perestroika arrived for a short time.
                And by the way, at the expense of the regime propagandist. As I understand it, evil and bloody in your eyes. I personally am not a fan of our current government from the word at all. But I didn't really like the fact that there was in the Union either. And I am more and more convinced that the current government is striving for the late USSR in its worst manifestations. Something the current TV very strongly began to resemble the one that was in the 80s.
                Well, power in general is such a thing, few people are satisfied with it in any country.
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 26 December 2020 17: 04
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                  Quote: Yakut
                  I wrote not about the pension 200, but about the salary. And the pensions, yes, were different.

                  So you somehow cleverly formulated - first about the grandmother's pension, and then explaining that we are talking about a salary, you abruptly switched to your aunt:
                  My grandmother, having worked all her life on a collective farm, received a pension of about 20 rubles. Aunt at a factory in Odessa in the area of ​​200.

                  So I understood all this in the context of pensions.
                  Quote: Yakut
                  ... I remember my mother having earned the necessary seniority for retirement at 132 and was very happy about this.

                  You have a poor idea of ​​what kind of sum it is for a Soviet citizen, if many started work with a salary of 80-90 rubles. and could feed themselves and their family, though then it was necessary to deny yourself a lot.
                  Quote: Yakut
                  But I didn't really like the fact that there was in the Union either.

                  I wonder what exactly she didn't please you, if you didn't really live with her?
                  Quote: Yakut
                  Something the current TV very strongly began to resemble the one that was in the 80s.

                  The Internet will help you - what prevents you from learning all the news from the network?
                  Quote: Yakut
                  Well, power in general is such a thing, few people are satisfied with it in any country.

                  Here I completely agree with you, but what scares me more is that those who come instead of the current government will lead us to another tragedy, no matter what good wishes they hide behind.
                  1. Ruby
                    Ruby 26 December 2020 17: 53
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                    I very well imagine what it is like to live as a family on the minimum wage in the Union. 80-90 this was the lot of very unskilled people. I started at 120 after college, as a 3rd grade technician, plus a 40% northern allowance. Wife, child. So without the help of parents and hack, the fastest way would be to stretch your legs for that kind of money.
                    1. gsev
                      gsev 29 December 2020 01: 57
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                      Quote: Yakut
                      80-90 this was the lot of very unskilled people.

                      107 rubles net salary of a novice engineer in a defense research institute after 5 years of study at the institute in 1986.
    2. ccsr
      ccsr 26 December 2020 16: 09
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      Quote: evgen1221
      It is strange that there are so few comments. You can partly write off on the main contingent of the site-retirees who already do not need anything. The topic is really one of the most important for the future of the country, well, since we are going to build capitalism.
      Here, in my opinion, the roots of the problem of perestroika are growing.

      Nothing strange if we proceed from a simple perception of the truth that only 10-15% of the country's population can be real businessmen by nature, and all the rest can only pretend to be businessmen, seizing in some illegal way someone else's property or wealth.
      It is enough just to remember how many of our showmen, starting with Pugacheva, went bankrupt in business, having highly qualified consultants and assistants, to understand that even personal merit is nothing in such a complex matter. About the Planet Hollywood chain of stores and restaurants (if anyone remembers what it is), which successfully went bankrupt, despite the fact that Schwarzenegger and Stallone were founders there, it's also good to remember in order to understand that business is not everyone's lot.
      That is why this topic will not receive further development here, and the point is not in retirees, but in the fact that there are simply few people who have gone through all the stages of business from scratch and now manage their own, albeit a small business, and know everything from the inside.
      And general reasoning and cliches are unlikely to interest them, which is why the topic will slowly fade away.
  • Iskazi
    Iskazi 28 December 2020 18: 05
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    much of what the author has written is close to the truth, the state is a very dubious ally for business, especially the Russian Federation, although other countries are not sugar. Unfortunately for many, - profit is a natural result of correct work and correct housekeeping. We need alternative systems of regulation, both financial and state, we need demonopolization of power ..., serious decentralization of the banking sector, and an increase in cash turnover, We need a free producer ..., a society of free producers - the classics called it - communism ...
  • Anachoret
    Anachoret 28 December 2020 18: 41
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    famous tax riddle

    what needs to be done to make the cow eat less and produce more milk?
    - feed less and milk more often
  • sunzhenets
    sunzhenets 29 December 2020 08: 13
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    For small businesses, the main problem is the low purchasing power of the population.
    If people don't have money, you can't make money.