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Russian Foreign Ministry confirmed information about sending 300 Russian military instructors to CAR

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Russian Foreign Ministry confirmed information about sending 300 Russian military instructors to CAR

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If in the morning the Russian ambassador to the Central African Republic made statements that only a few Russian military instructors assigned to the Ministry of Defense of this country were in the CAR, now the Russian Foreign Ministry is voicing information of a different kind.

The main foreign ministry of the country actually confirms the information that previously appeared on the pages of the French edition of Le Figaro. This information concerns the dispatch of the Russian contingent to the CAR.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation reports that 300 military instructors are sent to the Central African Republic to train servicemen of the army of this African state. It is added that we are talking about an "additional number" of Russian instructors, whom Moscow sends to Bangui (the capital of the CAR).

It is indicated that such a decision was made in connection with the request of the leadership of the Central African Republic with the notification of the UN Security Council committee.

Recall that the situation in the CAR in recent weeks has deteriorated sharply in terms of security. Several groups, having united, in fact raised a mutiny several days before the elections in the country. And the citizens of the CAR will be elected by the president and parliament members.

Voting will take place on December 27. The rebels' speech could disrupt the elections, so the CAR leadership turned to Moscow for help. And, as is now clear, Moscow did not refuse. The reason for the Russian decision to send military instructors to the CAR is not reported.

The rebels, according to the latest information, are the mercenaries of one of the candidates who were not allowed in the CAR to the elections. The Russian Foreign Ministry declares that it calls on all parties to the conflict in the CAR to negotiate and de-escalate.
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  1. Borik
    Borik 22 December 2020 18: 47
    +12
    And if you take a closer look, then perhaps more than three hundred will be. And how many of them there are already in place is only God himself knows.
    1. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 22 December 2020 18: 52
      -33%
      yeah. and 250 Pskov armored-hoofed Buryat divisions
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 22 December 2020 21: 57
        -21%
        Quote: Stroibat stock
        yeah. and 250 Pskov armored-hoofed Buryat divisions

        I have said for a long time that the CAR is viewed by the current leadership as a springboard for future retreat from power here.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 22 December 2020 22: 46
          +27
          Quote: Stroporez
          as a springboard for future retreat from power here.

          wassat wassat wassat This is what it is, a network circus ... fellow
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 22 December 2020 23: 34
            -3
            Quote: Paranoid50
            This is what it is, a network circus ...

            justify!
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 23 December 2020 08: 39
              +3
              . Russian Foreign Ministry confirmed information about sending 300 Russian military instructors to the CAR

              How so?? This is a failure. You (Foreign Ministry) why did the French trolls play along ?! It was necessary to completely deny everything, as is usually the case. The experience is great, no matter how!

              With Navlny, it turns out dashingly. They are investigating us with evidence, and we just tell them: DO NOT BELIEVE the intrigues of the special services! And everything, oddly enough, works. Within the country, at least. The noodles fit right in!
            2. Narak-zempo
              Narak-zempo 23 December 2020 15: 38
              0
              Quote: Stroporez
              Quote: Paranoid50
              This is what it is, a network circus ...

              justify!

              It is impolite to call an opponent "justify" in a discussion.
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 23 December 2020 00: 24
          +2
          Quote: Stroporez
          that the CAR is viewed by the current leadership as a springboard for future retreat from power here.

          Perhaps you are right, perhaps. Didn't they go for the gold of the "party"? It is clear that it is not the Communist Party. We were never there, but there was turmoil, gold, diamonds. Everything is possible. Prigogine is there for sure.
          1. digitalcn75
            digitalcn75 23 December 2020 00: 53
            -8
            You see at the root! The party's gold is in danger, that's right.
          2. Vladimir_2U
            Vladimir_2U 23 December 2020 05: 23
            +2
            Quote: Silvestr
            Didn't they go for the gold of the "party"

            For ivory and luxurious meerkat skins!
            1. 72jora72
              72jora72 24 December 2020 09: 29
              -2
              For ivory and luxurious meerkat skins!
              ̷В̷В̷ ̷P̷u̷t̷i̷n̷ Sebastian Pereiro-ebony merchant ......
          3. Serg65
            Serg65 23 December 2020 09: 10
            +5
            Quote: Silvestr
            It is clear that it is not the Communist Party. We were never there

            laughing Well, yes, well, yes ... and who brought Jean Bokassa to power in 1969?
            Quote: Silvestr
            Everything is possible

            what Are you fond of alternative history together with Stroporez?
        3. Serg65
          Serg65 23 December 2020 09: 01
          +4
          Quote: Stroporez
          a springboard for future retreat from power here.

          I'm rushing, I'm rushing because the New Year?
    2. halpat
      halpat 22 December 2020 18: 55
      +18
      Together, 300 instructors are quite capable of changing the government in Bangui (CAR).
      An appropriate command would have been given.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 22 December 2020 19: 04
        +17
        Quote: Halpat
        Together, 300 instructors are quite capable of changing the government in Bangui (CAR).
        An appropriate command would have been given.

        Some people in those parts managed to do with less. smile
        1. halpat
          halpat 22 December 2020 19: 18
          +19
          Mike Hoare and Bob Denard were cool guys good
          Times are not the same now sad
        2. Lionnvrsk
          Lionnvrsk 22 December 2020 21: 03
          +1
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Some people in those parts managed to do with less.

          And no later than 7-10 days ago, infa flashed in the media that the Americans began to hastily leave those places.
          1. voronin
            voronin 23 December 2020 23: 19
            +8
            It looks like you can't hide an sewn in a sack ...
        3. Maki Avellevich
          Maki Avellevich 22 December 2020 21: 14
          +20
          I thought I wouldn't have to, but it's time to get Kambula. again.

          1. Evil543
            Evil543 22 December 2020 21: 57
            +9
            Yes . Kambula is a test. laughing
      2. ccsr
        ccsr 22 December 2020 19: 08
        +19
        Quote: Halpat
        Together, 300 instructors are quite capable of changing the government in Bangui (CAR).

        And who will hold power for at least half a year?
        In general, a completely incomprehensible decision of our authorities, especially since even the USSR did not pull Mozambique and Angola, we had to call the Cubans for help.
        I do not like this idea, especially since Syria and Armenia are already hanging on us.
        Quote: Halpat
        An appropriate command would have been given.

        It won't take long to give the command. It's just who will disentangle the consequences of this command, it is not difficult to guess - we already went through this under the Soviet regime, again it is impatient to step on a rake.
        1. halpat
          halpat 22 December 2020 19: 20
          +1
          Power will be held by the instructed, by a dense crowd :) and under strict guidance :)
          1. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 22 December 2020 20: 19
            -3
            Quote: Halpat
            Power will be held by the instructed, by a dense crowd :) and under strict guidance :)

            The USSR has already gone through all this ... Let us recall Afghanistan. We need to work with the population, but rebels track using UAVs (the terrain allows - bald plateau, there are not many forests) and hit from the air.
            1. K-612-O
              K-612-O 23 December 2020 07: 57
              +2
              There are such rebels there, her mother and children, a crowd of homeless people with shooters, they have BRDM damn heavy equipment, Rwandans from the UN drive them there.
              Here it is rather a reassurance and consolidation of positions. We also do not forget about the UN sanctions on the supply of weapons and the deployment of foreign troops, so that against the background of the rebellious pro-French gangs of several hundred barrels, under silence, our positions in the republic are consolidated.
              1. voronin
                voronin 23 December 2020 23: 21
                +8
                French proxies are also good at stepping on the tail.
        2. Doccor18
          Doccor18 22 December 2020 19: 59
          0
          Quote: ccsr
          Quote: Halpat
          Together, 300 instructors are quite capable of changing the government in Bangui (CAR).

          And who will hold power for at least half a year?
          In general, a completely incomprehensible decision of our authorities, especially since even the USSR did not pull Mozambique and Angola, we had to call the Cubans for help.
          I do not like this idea, especially since Syria and Armenia are already hanging on us.
          Quote: Halpat
          An appropriate command would have been given.

          It won't take long to give the command. It's just who will disentangle the consequences of this command, it is not difficult to guess - we already went through this under the Soviet regime, again it is impatient to step on a rake.

          Imperial ambitions do not give rest.
          It is very curious why the Central African Republic did not turn to France for help, because they are united by "age-old relations" ...
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 22 December 2020 20: 08
            +6
            Quote: Doccor18
            Imperial ambitions do not give rest.

            I would say more simply - some of them from their own successes crawled out of all the cracks.
            Quote: Doccor18
            It is very curious why the Central African Republic did not turn to France for help, because they are united by "age-old relations" ...

            Here I am for this - even if the famous Foreign Legion, even with its entire composition, goes there to help its African brothers. We need them then - no one can explain ...
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 22 December 2020 20: 32
              -1
              Judging by last year's data, the CAR is economically firmly connected only with 4 countries: China, France, DRC and the USA, the rest do not play a significant role.
              It is doubtful if this is the economy. politician...
            2. kapitan92
              kapitan92 22 December 2020 21: 20
              -1
              Quote: ccsr
              We need them then - no one can explain ...

              The Central African Republic possesses significant natural resources - deposits of diamonds, uranium, gold, oil, forest and hydropower resources.
              A "glade" is being prepared for the friends of our Guarantor. hi
              1. Deniska999
                Deniska999 22 December 2020 22: 36
                +5
                There is only one uranium mine in the CAR. In the town of Bakuma. The problem is that back in January 19, this town and mine were captured by the rebel group, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Central Africa, after which most of the population and miners simply fled from Baku. Uranium reserves in the CAR, by the way, are 20 thousand tons. Well, sparsely, let's face it. At the same time, France, which operated the mine, pumped out all the more or less profitable rock from it, and now the extraction of uranium ore in Baku is significantly more expensive than under the colonialists. And mining uranium in the CAR is not a great pleasure. It needs not only to be mined, but also to be enriched, and then also taken out. The logistics of the CAR, to put it mildly, is also not so hot. In fact, the French spat on Central African uranium primarily because of the difficulties of its delivery. And frankly speaking, there is little of it.

                With diamonds, too, this whole story beats. Diamond mining in the CAR in 17 - 0,048 million carats. Russia, for example, produced 42,5 million carats of diamonds at the same time. Three orders of magnitude more. And this is an excuse to go into it is not clear where?
                1. kapitan92
                  kapitan92 22 December 2020 23: 52
                  -1
                  Quote: Deniska999
                  And this is an excuse to go into it is not clear where?

                  You gave absolutely accurate figures for diamond production in 2017.
                  Let's not forget that since 2001 there has been a civil war, I did not track which tribe with which, and nevertheless, the CAR has consistently mined about 600000 carats a year, although the volume of production is almost entirely provided by artisanal methods.
                  With a population of 6 million people. this is a serious result, given that the cost of a carat in the CAR is $ 136,56 / carat, in Russia it is $ 96,5 / carat.

                  In any case, we got into the sphere of interests of France and the "podlians" are expecting us there.
                  In all likelihood, our propaganda will assure us of rendering assistance and an "international" debt to the "friendly Central African people." laughing hi
              2. ccsr
                ccsr 23 December 2020 11: 32
                -1
                Quote: kapitan92
                A "glade" is being prepared for the friends of our Guarantor.

                This is not serious - no one will let them go there, because this is the domain of the West and China. And cases against our oligarchs have long been concocted, so they will arrest their investments for a sweet soul.
                By the way, why do we need to invest in African wealth if Siberia and the Far East are much richer in our country, and we still cannot master what we have.
          2. syndicalist
            syndicalist 22 December 2020 22: 23
            -10%
            Quote: Doccor18
            Imperial ambitions do not give rest.

            Unlikely. Rather, they are preparing a base for themselves in case of the threat of a tribunal in Russia for everything heaped up. You will never return to Rostov.
            1. The Word of the Word
              The Word of the Word 22 December 2020 22: 56
              +10
              Take Aminazine, otherwise you will generate delirium.
            2. The comment was deleted.
          3. syndicalist
            syndicalist 22 December 2020 22: 24
            -6
            Quote: Doccor18
            Imperial ambitions do not give rest.

            Unlikely. Rather, they are preparing a base for themselves in case of the threat of a tribunal in Russia for everything heaped up. You can't hide in Rostov.
          4. halpat
            halpat 23 December 2020 01: 34
            0
            Quote: Doccor18
            Quote: ccsr
            Quote: Halpat
            Together, 300 instructors are quite capable of changing the government in Bangui (CAR).

            And who will hold power for at least half a year?
            In general, a completely incomprehensible decision of our authorities, especially since even the USSR did not pull Mozambique and Angola, we had to call the Cubans for help.
            I do not like this idea, especially since Syria and Armenia are already hanging on us.
            Quote: Halpat
            An appropriate command would have been given.

            It won't take long to give the command. It's just who will disentangle the consequences of this command, it is not difficult to guess - we already went through this under the Soviet regime, again it is impatient to step on a rake.

            Imperial ambitions do not give rest.
            It is very curious why the Central African Republic did not turn to France for help, because they are united by "age-old relations" ...

            apparently tired of standing doggystyle, yes French ass licking
          5. K-612-O
            K-612-O 23 December 2020 08: 01
            +1
            Probably because this age-old relationship led to civil war all his life
          6. Serg65
            Serg65 23 December 2020 09: 14
            +4
            Quote: Doccor18
            why did the CAR not turn to France for help?

            Because the rebels turned to France wink
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 23 December 2020 10: 45
              +1
              Quote: Serg65
              Quote: Doccor18
              why did the CAR not turn to France for help?

              Because the rebels turned to France wink

              This option is the most plausible yes
        3. New Year day
          New Year day 23 December 2020 00: 27
          +1
          Quote: ccsr
          again can't wait to step on a rake.

          “Where is the margin?” Said one character. So there is a margin, and for the sake of gold, why not risk other people's lives
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 23 December 2020 09: 18
            0
            Quote: Silvestr
            for the sake of gold why not risk other people's lives

            Well, you are ready to risk other people's lives for the sake of power!
        4. alexmach
          alexmach 23 December 2020 01: 22
          +1
          In general, a completely incomprehensible decision of our authorities, especially since even the USSR did not pull Mozambique and Angola, we had to call the Cubans for help.

          The Cubans were called for help not because they didn’t pull something, but because they needed allies for some reason.
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 23 December 2020 12: 02
            +1
            Quote: alexmach
            The Cubans were called for help not because they didn’t pull something, but because they needed allies for some reason.

            You probably never came across those who fought in Africa or in other tropics, and caught illness there in the first months, despite vaccinations. So the Cubans were used there for this reason, and as payment for our help to them through government supplies to Fidel.
            1. anzar
              anzar 24 December 2020 15: 25
              0
              Cubans were used there for this reason, and as payment for our help to them through government supplies to Fidel.

              Yes, and they also have a lot of blacks to "play" for the Angolans and not stand out. Especially in the initial stage of the struggle for power (flight IL-62 from Havana). They were there much earlier than the Russians.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 24 December 2020 17: 45
                +1
                Quote: anzar
                Yes, and they also have a lot of blacks to "play" for the Angolans and not stand out.

                Indeed, this factor was necessarily taken into account, as was the fact that a large number of Cuban military personnel were trained in the USSR and it was easier for us to have a common language with them for joint actions, even at a conversational level.
                Quote: anzar
                Especially in the initial stage of the struggle for power (flight IL-62 from Havana). They were there much earlier than the Russians.

                I don't know such subtleties, but the fact that our people in the tropics do not tolerate well is a fact. A former colleague of mine died of a heart attack on the "Reed" in the nineties - this business trip turned out to be bad for him, although whoever had been there before warned him that it was better not to risk it, because not everyone there tolerates the painless tropical climate.
        5. bayard
          bayard 23 December 2020 14: 02
          -1
          Quote: ccsr
          And who will hold power for at least half a year?

          smile Who to hold? laughing
          Cambula !!! yes
          He will learn. soldier
          He can do it. bully
      3. antivirus
        antivirus 22 December 2020 20: 44
        +2
        they will go to connect with the French brothers in Mali. through Nigeria.
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 22 December 2020 21: 06
          +3
          Quote: antivirus
          they will go to connect with the French brothers in Mali. through Nigeria.

          It is more convenient through Cameroon or Chad, there are also enough "brothers" ...
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 23 December 2020 09: 31
            0
            in Nigeria, oil, etc., what will ours get in Cameroon?
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 23 December 2020 10: 42
              0
              Quote: antivirus
              in Nigeria, oil, etc., what will ours get in Cameroon?

              If you enter Africa wisely (not like the Germans at the end of the 19th century), then you can turn around ... both economically and politically. There is an abyss, far from being explored ... China understood this long ago and firmly seized on this continent, but at some point, too, it began to "replay and bend" and discontent was not long in coming ...
      4. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 22 December 2020 22: 06
        +2
        Quote: Halpat
        Together, 300 instructors are quite capable of changing the government in Bangui (CAR).
        An appropriate command would have been given.

        If according to the military, then these are 3 companies, in our opinion 5-7 !!! taking into account the specifics of the fighters themselves.
    3. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 22 December 2020 18: 56
      -1
      I wonder what kind of resources control is all this "help"? Gold, Uranium, Diamonds or Oil (what does the CAR have) ??? The CAR has no political influence in the world at all, which means that some economic dividends are needed! And what concessions Russia received there, maybe who knows?
      1. The popuas
        The popuas 22 December 2020 19: 03
        0
        Again some cannibal is being guarded from the rebels! Damn those that do from the army! Then they would send PMCs instead of lowing that they are not there request
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 23 December 2020 01: 28
          0
          Then they would send PMCs instead of lowing that they are not there

          And PMCs seem to have been there for a long time ..
        2. K-612-O
          K-612-O 23 December 2020 08: 04
          +3
          Your so-called cannibal doctor in mathematics, the first educated sane ruler who decided to form an army and police, and not the gangs under their control, which used to overthrow power at the slightest handout from Paris
      2. set of sets
        set of sets 22 December 2020 19: 20
        +10
        “Earlier it was reported that fighters of the so-called" Wagner PMC "have been operating in the CAR for several years, which, according to media reports, is financed by businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin. According to the BBC's interlocutors, Prigozhin's structures are also mining precious stones in the republic and are showing interest in gold mines and woodworking business.
        1. The Word of the Word
          The Word of the Word 22 December 2020 22: 59
          +4
          The BBC has long turned into a politicized-biased trash heap.
        2. New Year day
          New Year day 23 December 2020 00: 28
          +1
          Quote: set of sets
          Prigozhin's structures also mine precious stones in the republic and show interest in gold mines and woodworking business. ,,

          Here is the answer to the question posed.
          Quote: Hunter 2
          And what concessions Russia received there, maybe who knows?
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 23 December 2020 09: 22
            -1
            Quote: Silvestr
            Here is the answer to the question posed.

            Bazaar chatter is the answer?
      3. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 22 December 2020 19: 27
        +6
        All that you have listed gives them only 20% of GDP, which is very little with their reserves. It looks like Macron's fish soup is sticking out behind this rebellious deputy.
      4. lis-ik
        lis-ik 22 December 2020 19: 49
        +4
        Quote: Hunter 2
        And what concessions Russia received there, maybe who knows?

        Russia may not have had it, but this is a trifle, the main thing is probably that the president's friends will have some kind of gesheft?
      5. Doccor18
        Doccor18 22 December 2020 20: 25
        +5
        Quote: Hunter 2
        I wonder what kind of resources control is all this "help"? Gold, Uranium, Diamonds or Oil (what does the CAR have) ???

        Yes, and there is so much oil there, already St. 6,2 billion bar. opened ... And this is not the end of geological exploration. There is not so much gold and diamonds, but the diamonds are of excellent quality, but uranium is also a very decent deposit. True, all of this is already being done or has been done by Western corporations ...
        Maybe it will fall into the domestic market ...
        The CAR has no political influence in the world at all ..

        But what is the geographical position ... And if you add here friendly relations with Sudan, the opening of the PMTO on the shores of the Red Sea, then a very interesting picture turns out ...
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 23 December 2020 20: 08
          +1
          Quote: Doccor18
          Yes, and there is so much oil there, already St. 6,2 billion bar. have opened ... And this is not the end of geological exploration. There is not so much gold and diamonds, but the diamonds are of excellent quality, but uranium is also a very decent deposit.

          Something I immediately remembered Pan Lem.
          Hauvari, whom the local press called the Elder Brother of Eternity, spared no money for science, and he drew them from the taxes that foreign firms levied on the country. Parliament approved another tax, after which confiscations began, descriptions of property and notes of protest, mostly without consequences, and when a group of capitalists packed their bags, there were always others who wanted to try their luck in Gurunduvaya, where the reserves of minerals, especially chromium and nickel, were huge although some argued that the geological data was rigged at the direction of the authorities. Hauvari bought weapons on credit, including fighter jets and tanks, and sold them to Lamblia for cash.
      6. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 22 December 2020 22: 10
        +2
        Quote: Hunter 2
        I wonder what kind of resources control is all this "help"? Gold, Uranium, Diamonds or Oil (what does the CAR have) ???

        Look at the map, in the Central African Republic there is everything and the first ones who rushed there were the "devils" of the 90s, and then friends of a friend.
      7. alexmach
        alexmach 23 December 2020 01: 28
        0
        There are a couple of interesting paragraphs on pedivikia
        Russia has also started the implementation of exploration mining concessions in the CAR

        and there
        In March 2018, five Russian military and 170 Russian civilian instructors were sent to the CAR to train local military personnel.

        On the territory of the former palace of the Emperor Bokassa, there is a Russian "military training and education center" - weapons are provided free of charge, instructions are given by Russian mercenaries from the "Wagner group" (about 500 people)
      8. K-612-O
        K-612-O 23 December 2020 08: 06
        +1
        First of all, the Russian Federation received access to the construction of a railway, the development of uranium deposits and bauxite
    4. Deniska999
      Deniska999 22 December 2020 19: 04
      -1
      As if it did not end with us fighting for them.
      1. anzar
        anzar 22 December 2020 21: 27
        +4
        No matter how ended so that we fight for them.

        This is not the end ... wink What do you think, 5 days before the elections, how many will have time to "instruct"))
        1. Deniska999
          Deniska999 22 December 2020 22: 32
          +4
          That's right, they won't have time to instruct, and if the current president of the Central African Republic meets with a real uprising, then our 300 Spartans will defend him.
      2. K-612-O
        K-612-O 23 December 2020 08: 10
        +1
        There is no one to fight with, if the Franks only Chadovites do not catch up there, besides, why did the news go very quietly that Rwanda was strengthening its contingent in the CAR? The Rwandans there are just fighting the main "battles", since it is difficult to call the dispersal of the raids of homeless people on mopeds and mopeds, which give sneakers at the sight of serious troops, as battles.
    5. Civil
      Civil 22 December 2020 19: 05
      -1
      As part of its assistance to Bangui in strengthening the defense capability of the Central African Republic, Russia promptly responded to the request of its leadership and sent an additional 300 instructors to train the military personnel of the national army.
      https://www.mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/4511191
      1. Where are the professional commentators? How is this turn of events explained? laughing
      2. Moreover, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation clearly writes about "additional forces," which means there are still, now former "ichtamnets".
      3. What is the Russian army doing on Alien War?
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 22 December 2020 19: 26
        +15
        There are enough oddities ...
        Just as recently as today, the Russian ambassador to the CAR, Vladimir Titorenko, asserted the exact opposite. According to him, "... the only regular Russian servicemen in the Central African Republic are five employees of the Russian Ministry of Defense under the Ministry of Defense of the CAR - in the capital of the republic, the city of Bangui."
        And comrade Zyablitsev in the front ranks of the competent authorities has already begun to stigmatize the rags that generate fakes.
        And this is how it turns out ...
        What happens - not the French newspaper Le Figaro, which for some reason already knew about sending hundreds of Russian servicemen to the CAR, got into a puddle of the village, but the Russian ambassador to the CAR?
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 22 December 2020 20: 14
          -7
          Quote: Cosm22
          What happens - not the French newspaper Le Figaro, which for some reason already knew about sending hundreds of Russian servicemen to the CAR, got into a puddle of the village, but the Russian ambassador to the CAR?

          Are you sure that those who came as military advisers are servicemen of the Russian army? It is possible that these are civilian instructors from among the former military, or officers recruited under the UN contract, when they are allowed to leave the military service of their state for a certain period. It seems that you are simply not in the subject of how all this is organized, which is why you did not understand what the ambassador was talking about - "a career military man of the Russian army" is not the same as "a military adviser from Russia."
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 22 December 2020 22: 41
            +3
            Let's not engage in verbal casuistry.
            So far, everything is in order with the Russian language.
            And if I read - "the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation is informed that 300 MILITARY instructors are sent to the Central African Republic to train servicemen of the army of this African state" - I do not allow any other interpretation of the adjective "military". They are unlikely to be technologists of pasta production. Are they in the state or outside the state - what difference does that make? PMC fighters or not - what makes a difference? They came not to teach children to read and write in African schools, but to teach other military personnel in military affairs. Or what, he took off his shoulder straps again - they won't be there?
            This lie is already in the liver.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 23 December 2020 01: 33
              +1
              sent 300 MILITARY instructors who will train the military personnel of the army of this African state "- I do not allow any other interpretation of the adjective" military "

              It goes without saying. And in addition to them, 5 military men have been there for a long time, as the ambassador said. Attention to the question. And how many additional "non-military" ones can there be?
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 23 December 2020 11: 55
                0
                Quote: alexmach
                It goes without saying.

                You are too free to interpret the concept of "military adviser", but for different situations it carries a different meaning.
                Quote: alexmach
                And in addition to them, 5 military men have been there for a long time,

                These may be part of the embassy - military attachés, officers of the FSB and SVR. So the ambassador pointed out those officers who have the legal status of an embassy employee.
                Quote: alexmach
                And how many additional "non-military" ones can there be?

                And this in general has nothing to do with the ambassador, tk. private business can hire our citizens to any country. The recent death of three journalists who were hired by Khodorkovsky is a confirmation of this - they certainly had nothing to do with our embassy.
                1. alexmach
                  alexmach 23 December 2020 12: 04
                  0
                  And this has nothing to do with the ambassador, because private business can hire our citizens to any country.

                  That's just it. And here below the hotheads of the ambassador were called a non-professional.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 23 December 2020 13: 03
                    +1
                    Quote: alexmach
                    That's just it. And here below the hotheads of the ambassador were called a non-professional.

                    I am simply amazed how some local "experts" with a clever air are talking nonsense, without even bothering to understand how the UN observers are formed, which units are enrolled in the "blue helmets", to whom they report, but have already decided that the acting Russian officers went there in the amount of 300 people as a contingent of the Russian Army. In general, a kindergarten, which never got out of the sandbox ...
            2. ccsr
              ccsr 23 December 2020 11: 49
              -2
              Quote: Cosm22
              Let's not engage in verbal casuistry.

              This is not casuistry - first study how the UN recruits officers from different countries, and what is the procedure for sending such persons under the command of the governing structures of this organization. All arriving officers must be expelled from the service of their countries, otherwise there will be a mess even in their midst.
              Quote: Cosm22
              that 300 MILITARY instructors are sent to the Central African Republic,

              These could be our obligations to the UN, including as a partial payment of our contribution to this organization.

              Quote: Cosm22
              I do not admit any other interpretation of the adjective "military".

              You do not allow this, but in our country civilian specialists (retirees, as a rule) can teach classes in various subjects even in higher educational institutions. Will they, too, be considered active duty soldiers?
              Quote: Cosm22
              Are they in the state or outside the state - what difference does that make?

              It changes and strongly. In the event of the death of such an adviser, we have no right to defeat this country with the might of our armed forces. But if our MILITARY SERVICES are attacked, then this is a reason for the conduct of hostilities, as it was, for example, in Georgia with our peacekeepers.
              Quote: Cosm22
              This lie is already in the liver.

              You are simply illiterate in international issues of using military specialists, so lump everything together, not realizing that our state has certain obligations to the UN and to its military units located abroad. And these obligations are completely different. To put it simply, because of the death of OUR military advisers, we do not have the right to start a war against this country. But if our base is attacked in Tajikistan, then we can use any weapon against the attackers, up to nuclear.
        2. Pereira
          Pereira 22 December 2020 20: 20
          +8
          You didn’t think that the career diplomat would tell the truth?
        3. Piramidon
          Piramidon 22 December 2020 22: 40
          +6
          Quote: Cosm22
          What happens - not the French newspaper Le Figaro, which for some reason already knew about sending hundreds of Russian servicemen to the CAR, got into a puddle of the village, but the Russian ambassador to the CAR?

          When a diplomat is caught in a lie, he always speaks diplomatically - "You misunderstood me" lol
      2. Nikon OConor
        Nikon OConor 22 December 2020 19: 34
        +6
        The Russian army is currently indicating its presence. And when the situation is resolved, the option of a permanent military base of the Russian Federation in the CAR can be implemented. Only what for it is necessary, I do not know.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 22 December 2020 22: 26
          +2
          I can tell.
          On the edge of all reports about the Russian military presence, there was information that there were bauxite in that region.
          Considering that Rusal is not a Russian company, it is logical to try to replace it with your own. And this requires raw materials.
          1. Nikon OConor
            Nikon OConor 23 December 2020 06: 46
            +1
            as an option it will work, but it would be better if there was uranium ...
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 23 December 2020 08: 48
              +1
              Uranus is good. But aluminum feeds more people in the country.
        2. K-612-O
          K-612-O 23 December 2020 08: 22
          0
          Everything is prosaic, the first is the construction of a railway to Port Sudan, which will finally link the western and eastern coasts of Africa, and as a bonus, access to uranium, bauxite and diamonds, and we really need uranium, although Rosatom controls Canadian deposits, it buys from Kazakhstan. but all the same, it will not be enough, we supply half of the world with nuclear fuel.
      3. lis-ik
        lis-ik 22 December 2020 19: 56
        -1
        Quote: Civil
        3. What is the Russian army doing in the Alien War?

        Most likely it gives an opportunity to earn money for those who have interests there, as well as for those desperate guys who put money above life.
      4. nnm
        nnm 22 December 2020 20: 42
        +4
        Have you tried using the original sources? Where did the Foreign Ministry say this?
        https://www.mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/news/-/asset_publisher/cKNonkJE02Bw/content/id/4511191
      5. K-612-O
        K-612-O 23 December 2020 08: 13
        0
        Lord, the word is so loud war, you ask the region what is going on there and what forces are involved there. It cannot even be called battles.
    6. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 22 December 2020 19: 57
      +8
      Quote: Borik
      And if you take a closer look, then perhaps more than three hundred will be. And how many of them there are already in place is only God himself knows.

      Remembered from the old:
      The countries of the Warsaw Pact are meeting. Decided to provide Libya with humanitarian aid
      food.
      The Prime Minister of Bulgaria stands up.
      - We will send 10 boxes of tomatoes.
      - What for?
      - Yes, there is a special packaging: from lead. So you will have something to pour bullets from.
      The Prime Minister of Romania stands up.
      - We will send 10 boxes of cucumbers.
      - What for?
      - Yes, there is a special packaging: made of good steel. You will make machines out of it.
      The USSR Council of Ministers rises.
      - And we will send 10 eggs.
      - Is the packaging also special?
      - The packaging is beautiful: blue berets and tarpaulin boots.
    7. alexmach
      alexmach 23 December 2020 01: 00
      -2
      An interesting message about the peacekeepers in Karabakh recently slipped through. Shoigu said that they have deployed the first mobile military town for 320 people in Stepanakert .. And they plan to deploy 32 such towns in total ... then we count the number ourselves ..
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 23 December 2020 01: 07
        +2
        More precisely:
        To accommodate Russian peacekeepers in Stepanakert have already been erected two modern block-modular town a common capacity 330 human.

        Considering that Stepanakert is like a capital, the largest contingent is stationed there. The rest will be smaller. There is no sensation.
    8. Maz
      Maz 23 December 2020 09: 19
      0
      There are such grandmothers in this CAR that I would not be surprised if the division is dropped.
  2. matross
    matross 22 December 2020 18: 48
    -1
    Why not immediately confirm to the Foreign Ministry? Why are these dances? Well, they sent a contingent, albeit small, everything is legitimate ...
    1. loki565
      loki565 22 December 2020 18: 51
      +7
      And why should it report to someone? Let the US first, with its vassals, paint every step.
      1. matross
        matross 22 December 2020 19: 05
        -5
        Quote: loki565
        why should it report to someone?

        Because, according to the text "with the notification of the UN Security Council committee" hi
    2. Reserve buildbat
      Reserve buildbat 22 December 2020 18: 53
      +6
      Or maybe, just while the answer was going through the authorities, the evening came? Bureaucracy is a terrible thing
      1. Cosm22
        Cosm22 22 December 2020 20: 03
        -1
        Again, everything can be.
        But the question remains unclear: why does the French newspaper receive information about the redeployment of Russian military personnel before this information reaches the Russian ambassador to the CAR, Vladimir Titorenko?
        What does he do there?
        And why is he needed there if he knows nothing?
  3. donavi49
    donavi49 22 December 2020 18: 52
    +11
    Well, the pictures are already flooded. True at 0,3 megapixels, but this is the norm there. They defend themselves from the putschists and hold the capital region.



    By the way, they left it visible without materiel, so instead of local krivorukov, they saddled Toyota.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 22 December 2020 18: 59
      +9
      Something in the photo, the guys are not engaged in training ... Again, to fulfill the international duty? For local "comrades" to shed blood?
      1. Cron
        Cron 22 December 2020 19: 04
        +23
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Something in the photo, the guys are not engaged in training ... Again, to fulfill the international duty? For local "comrades" to shed blood?

        No one has been fulfilling any debt for a long time, everyone earns money as best they can
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 22 December 2020 19: 15
          +7
          Quote: Cron
          everyone makes money as best they can

          Yes, cynical, but you're right. It's a shame that people do not earn money in their native country. So they go to die for the grandmother to the ends of the world. hi
          1. Cron
            Cron 22 December 2020 19: 34
            +12
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Cron
            everyone makes money as best they can

            Yes, cynical, but you're right. It's a shame that people do not earn money in their native country. So they go to die for the grandmother to the ends of the world. hi

            It's not about making money in your home country. All this mercenary activity is not our invention. Where, for one reason or another, the army is not used, they resort to their services. This market has long been gigantic with a volume of over $ 100 billion. And the main customers are Western countries.
            It is rather a question of the amount of money and, most importantly, of desire. For some do not see themselves in civilian life, and they are drawn to various hot spots. There would be only a question of earnings, it would be possible to go anywhere, since the borders have long been open. Well, or just serve in the regular army, so the question is more likely in psychology
            1. loki565
              loki565 22 December 2020 20: 05
              +3
              Yes, it is rather a closed club of interests)))
          2. Sasha Minakov
            Sasha Minakov 22 December 2020 19: 59
            +12
            Poor Americans ... are fighting for money all over the world. Why don't you cry for them?) Don't you have a job? I can help? We need a locksmith.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 22 December 2020 20: 04
              -6
              Quote: Sasha Minakov
              Poor Americans ... are fighting for money all over the world.

              Do you like the American mentality?
              Quote: Sasha Minakov
              We need a locksmith.

              Where? And what is the official salary? And another question, how did it happen that you have vacancies against the background of rising unemployment? wink
              1. alexmach
                alexmach 23 December 2020 15: 29
                +2
                How did it happen that you have vacancies amid rising unemployment?

                Skilled workers? So for them, in fact, the last 10-15 years as demand exceeds supply .. well, with ZP. all of course can be sad ... Demand will not necessarily be solvent.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 23 December 2020 15: 31
                  0
                  You can’t argue, you’re absolutely right.
        2. El Chuvachino
          El Chuvachino 22 December 2020 19: 18
          -1
          You don't need to judge the others by yourself.

          watch from 2:05 and especially 2:20.
      2. vargo
        vargo 22 December 2020 19: 04
        +15
        I think it is worth distinguishing between the involvement of a country like Afghanistan and a situation when 300 specialists are sent for special operations. They just won't be sent, there are many interests, and not everywhere they go to show, sometimes interests are promoted secretly.
    2. Cron
      Cron 22 December 2020 19: 01
      +8
      And what are the 12 UN peacekeepers doing there? Are your pants rubbing?
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 22 December 2020 19: 07
        +7
        Keeping the country from being a hot citizen with ethnic cleansing. When the guys from the FPRC come to the government region and all the kafirs in the ISIS style will be used up. And they will proclaim their Sultanate. It is precisely to counteract this that the UN mission is called upon.

        And here in the government region the local fitna got divorced. One clan (the former president) with the support of the army is trying to push another from the throne. The current authorities, in addition to shouting pamahite, at the same time want to cancel the elections (fast) for six months. The UN does not interfere here.
        1. Cron
          Cron 22 December 2020 19: 23
          +1
          Quote: donavi49
          the government region, the guys from the FPRC and all the kafirs in the ISIS style will be consumed. And they will proclaim their Sultanate. It is precisely to counteract this that the UN mission is called upon.

          And here in the government region the local fitna got divorced. One clan (the former president) with the support of the army is trying to push another from the throne. The current authorities, in addition to shouting pamahite, at the same time want to cancel the elections (fast) for six months. The UN does not interfere here.

          Well, they got divorced even during the peacekeeping operation of the French, who deepened this problem. The UN does not see them as participants in the negotiation process at all and classifies them as radicals. Apparently, they have cordoned off only objects that are important for themselves and are siphoning resources))
    3. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 22 December 2020 19: 12
      +2
      The weapon is delivered to the CAR for free, whoever owns a flight radar can see a lot of interesting things.
      1. Nikon OConor
        Nikon OConor 22 December 2020 19: 45
        +3
        Do you own? Does the above radar show the price of the transaction? Where can you buy? wink
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 22 December 2020 20: 13
          +5
          How many IL 76s flew at least through Sudan to track not an option. As for the price, this is Lavrov. He will answer you in his own style.
          1. Nikon OConor
            Nikon OConor 22 December 2020 21: 01
            -2
            Respected! This is not even a comment (see yours above), please explain your statements: "free", "Flight radar", who can track? what IL-76? Lavrov sets prices ?.
            Damn, there is a feeling of dialogue between the mute and the deaf.
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 22 December 2020 21: 27
              +1
              It really was delivered free of charge, that is, for free. What else to explain.
              1. Nikon OConor
                Nikon OConor 23 December 2020 06: 51
                0
                but understand: nothing in our world is free. Even if no one listed the pieces of paper for the equipment, this does not mean that it got free.
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 23 December 2020 07: 35
                  -1
                  Thought in the right direction, the price of CAR resources.
    4. alexmach
      alexmach 23 December 2020 01: 03
      +1
      The Ministry of Defense officially sends 300 people there, but there are still options with PMCs. Here PMC-shniki on Toyota and could sit.
  4. sabakina
    sabakina 22 December 2020 18: 53
    +13
    Russian military instructors in the CAR. Am I the only one who remembered the "flounder"? wink
    1. alexmach
      alexmach 23 December 2020 01: 08
      0
      Thanks for the fun. I have not seen before.
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  6. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 22 December 2020 18: 54
    +1
    "Where is the kumbul? !!"
  7. digitalcn75
    digitalcn75 22 December 2020 18: 55
    0
    Where does the guy get Spanish sadness? In the sense that the Ministry of Defense has forgotten the king?
    1. Graduate student
      Graduate student 22 December 2020 23: 47
      +24
      Quote: digitalcn75
      what the Ministry of Defense forgot in the king

      The same thing that was forgotten there: France, whose colony in the past was the Central African Republic, the United States and China.
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 22 December 2020 18: 57
    +3
    It used to be under France. Famous-Bokassa (This is the one who ate the only professor) Last year, 5 military advisers and 170 civilians were sent. There is something to pay for the help!
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 22 December 2020 19: 20
      +6
      Quote: tralflot1832
      There is something to pay for the help!

      Another debt write-off? How long has Uncle Vova Africa written off 20 yards? wink
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 22 December 2020 19: 38
        +2
        We are now smarter, the Chinese version, creating a joint venture "Horns and Hooves" and mining: gold, uranium, diamonds and oil,
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 22 December 2020 20: 24
          +7
          Quote: tralflot1832
          we extract: gold, uranium, diamonds and oil,

          Who are we"? Don't you confuse the next PJSC, OJSC and CJSC with the state?
          I understand that China has nowhere to do with money, it expands its zone of influence and trade, but what do we need? At the same time, the largest aluminum smelters are being sold to foreign investors, and profitable ones, mind you.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 22 December 2020 20: 46
            0
            In PJSC, OJSC and CJSC in engineering positions, Russians also work and for very good money.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 22 December 2020 21: 10
              +3
              Excuse me, but with this logic, you can justify your wife, since you went on a spree for money. No.
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 22 December 2020 21: 24
                +2
                Are you against that the Russians working at PJSC, OJSC and CJSC lived with dignity, what are you bringing in wives?
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 22 December 2020 21: 31
                  +3
                  To the common people of Russia these managers are of no use. This is not even a drop in the ocean. And wives to understand that not everything can be measured with money.
                  1. tralflot1832
                    tralflot1832 22 December 2020 21: 55
                    +2
                    I am also against managers with the hand of drivers. I am for engineers who manage local personnel, it seems, too, like ordinary people.
        2. Odysseus
          Odysseus 22 December 2020 20: 31
          +7
          Quote: tralflot1832
          We are now smarter, the Chinese version, creating a joint venture "Horns and Hooves" and mining: gold, uranium, diamonds and oil,

          There are no minerals there. Stop copying and pasting wikipedia, look at the export structure. Of all that you listed, only diamonds worth a meager amount of $ 4.6 million are exported. There are also gangster groups that are engaged in the black export of diamonds. But to think that the Russian Federation got in there in order to compete with gangsters in the meager local diamond market is somehow too much. I hope we have not yet reached such a shame.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 22 December 2020 21: 03
            +1
            20% of GDP sales of minerals. Gold, diamonds, uranium and oil. I already know your point of view here. I will not even enter into a polemic.
            1. Odysseus
              Odysseus 23 December 2020 00: 42
              +1
              Quote: tralflot1832
              20% of GDP sales of minerals. Gold, diamonds, uranium and oil. I already know your point of view here. I will not even enter into a polemic.

              I do not enter into any with you. "polemics". I'm just indicating the fact, your data is incorrect. You are either deceiving yourself or you are trying to deceive others.
              Industry accounts for 20% of the meager GDP. Here is the real structure of exports, the total amount of which in 2017 is 196 million dollars. Do you realize the scantiness of the amount?
              Here is the real structure
              54% (108 million USD): - Ground transport vehicles, except for railway or tram rolling stock, and their parts and accessories
              12% (USD 23 million): - Railway locomotives or motor trams, rolling stock and parts thereof; track equipment and devices for railways or tramways and parts thereof; mechanical (including electromechanical) signaling equipment of all kinds
              11,2% (22 million USD): - Wood and wood products; charcoal
              6,43% (12,6 million USD): - Nuclear reactors, boilers, equipment and mechanical devices; their parts
              4,67% (9,21 million USD): - Natural or cultured pearls, precious or semi-precious stones, precious metals, metals clad with precious metals, and articles thereof; bijouterie; coins
              4,67% (9,2 million USD): - Electrical machinery and equipment, their parts; sound recording and reproducing equipment, equipment for recording and reproducing television images and sound, their parts and accessories
              All your "gold, diamonds" in total is $ 9,2 million. Do you understand?
              And try to find your oil here. Between the hypothetical presence of something there that you read about in the yellow press and the reality when something is developed on an industrial scale and can be profitable, there is a huge distance.
      2. Fungus
        Fungus 22 December 2020 19: 48
        -3
        We extract resources for the write-off. They will not repay the debt because they are poor. Therefore, we take resources.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 22 December 2020 20: 25
          +4
          Quote: Fungus
          Therefore, we take resources.

          How much was taken from whom? Of those to whom have debts been forgiven? wink
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 22 December 2020 21: 07
            +3
            Under the USSR, it was cleverly necessary to lend. It was considered that under the USSR they gave so much in debt, this amount is now divided into one million $, even for a baby!
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 22 December 2020 21: 12
              +3
              Quote: tralflot1832
              Under the USSR, it was cleverly necessary to lend

              Is it smart to write off supposedly bad debts? They do not ask to eat tea, the lever of influence after all.
              Did anyone write off a penny for us? No, they wound up more percent.
            2. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 22 December 2020 21: 34
              +2
              Why then write off new debts? Was it also stupid?
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 22 December 2020 21: 40
                -5
                Old man can be written off!
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 22 December 2020 21: 43
                  +2
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  Old man can be written off!

                  And I'm not talking about dad. Iraq, for example.
                  1. tralflot1832
                    tralflot1832 22 December 2020 21: 49
                    0
                    Saddam is already dead. And the debts are from the USSR. Wait a moment, they buy weapons from us for real dollars, even if the Americans are against it. Yes, Lukoil has gone there well.
                    1. Mordvin 3
                      Mordvin 3 22 December 2020 21: 55
                      +2
                      Quote: tralflot1832
                      Saddam is already dead. And debts from the USSR.

                      Figures.
                      In November 2004, $ 9,5–9,8 billion of Iraqi debt was written off with a total debt of $ 10,5 billion. President Vladimir Putin expressed the hope that the new leadership would take into account the interests of Russian companies in Iraq.
                      Yeah, they wrote it off. M. b. and the USSR debt .... We look further.
                      In February 2008, Russia wrote off $ 12 billion to Iraq - 93% of the debt, which was $ 12,9 billion.

                      https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2364889
                      What kind of pornography?
                      1. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 22 December 2020 22: 03
                        +1
                        The final operation to destroy Iraq began in 2003 in March, Saddam was killed in 2006. All these debts are Saddam. And who is the footage of an adult movie.
                      2. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 22 December 2020 22: 06
                        +6
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        Saddam was killed in 2006. All these debts are Saddam.

                        Was he the one sitting in his cellar collecting debts? Dexterous fellow ... laughing
                        Eh, he gave a blunder. He was arrested in 2003. It turns out that he invited American creditors to prison.
                      3. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 22 December 2020 22: 23
                        0
                        Debts he scored eyeballs to Brezhnev and Gorbachev, and after the invasion of Kuwait came under a tough embargo. I don't know why we sided with Saddam under the USSR. Find the facts of loans under Yeltsin and Putin. And after the US occupation, everything was covered with a copper basin. The US is Saddam's debt to us. had to give?
                      4. Mordvin 3
                        Mordvin 3 22 December 2020 23: 01
                        0
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        Find the facts of loans under Yeltsin and Putin.

                        Didn't find it officially. The Finance Ministry declined to comment on the details of the negotiations.
                      5. tralflot1832
                        tralflot1832 22 December 2020 23: 37
                        0
                        You do not have to look. Until 2000, what the US and the IMF say, we did.
  • Serg65
    Serg65 23 December 2020 09: 39
    0
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    How long has Uncle Vova Africa written off 20 yards?

    what And where does Africa have debts in front of us?
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 23 December 2020 09: 42
      -1
      Is that why we had to write them off? belay Sergei, as you remember the debts of the USSR, Russia regularly paid off, no one wrote them off to us.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 23 December 2020 09: 46
        -1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Is that why we had to write them off?

        Igor, be realistic, these debts are already a hundred years old at lunchtime .... her, not so ... how would you, personally, collect these debts?
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 23 December 2020 10: 08
          0
          I repeat, Sergei - why should they have been written off?
          Russia paid its debts for the USSR under Lend-Lease, so where do you get the confidence that the debts 15-20 years ago are irrecoverable?
          Plus, you know as well as I do that debt is leverage.
          So do not ask stupid questions, Sergei, smart people do not face it! wink
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 23 December 2020 12: 54
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            So don't ask stupid questions

            The question is just not stupid! Africa is not Russia, the one who pays is the one who dances the girl .... ie. you have gold and you owe us! Well, not we owe you, but those who borrowed from you ... so ask them, and we'll give the gold to the Americans ... for money! The same CAR, the Union pumped millions of people's dollars there, and then they threw off the best friend of the Soviet Union, Comrade Emperor Bokassa ... and who is now giving 860 thousand greenbacks with a GDP of 700 of the same presidents per capita? So can you write off these 860 thousand and earn several times more? Sudan, for example, recognized a referendum in Crimea for writing off debts, supporting Russia at the UN Assembly, you can write this money towards the acquisition of Crimea!
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Where do you get confidence that debts 15-20 years ago are irrecoverable?

            laughing These debts are already 40-50 years old and this is the price for the kiss of dear Leonid Ilyich lol
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            smart people are not to face!

            I agree, smart people, but smart, Igor, should be more careful to cast a shadow on the fence, since there are still sane people on VO, not many, but to your regret! hi
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 23 December 2020 13: 21
              +1
              Quote: Serg65
              and those who borrowed from you ... so ask them

              Disingenuous Sergey. Nobody refused these debts, the national debt remains with the state regardless of who is in charge. wink
              Quote: Serg65
              Sudan, for example, recognized a referendum in Crimea for writing off debts,

              Are you losing it? Who in the world cares about Sudan's opinion? Resources are exciting, and they could be obtained through debt cancellation.
              Regarding the kisses of Brezhnev - Again you are in the wrong steppe. I repeat, the debtor is always obliged, read Starikov, finally, he describes in detail the true reasons for the overthrow of Ceausescu.
              Quote: Serg65
              not a lot, but to your regret!

              To my regret, there are many agitators for power who are here at work. wink And there are not many smart ones among this contingent, there will be enough fingers to count on one hand. And I'm still mentioning you, fingering! laughing
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 23 December 2020 13: 46
                -3
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Disingenuous Sergey.

                laughing Well, I understand that .... if I say that Putin is a comprador official, it will definitely suit you !!!
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                there are many agitators for power who are here at work.

                what On VO? At work for power? ... two questions at once ... who is protecting them on VO and how much is paid ??
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                And I still mention you

                what I don't have much time left to walk in smart walk ... laughing
  • CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 22 December 2020 19: 01
    +4
    Apparently, our interest in the CAR is dictated not only by possible economic interests in the extraction of useful resources, but also by politics in the form of entering the territory of French hegemony in central Africa
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 22 December 2020 21: 43
      -1
      The center of Africa, tempting. Sudan seems to be in sidekicks .. From the south, the Chinese propping up. It is possible to stir up something! hi
  • Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 22 December 2020 19: 02
    +4
    The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation reports that 300 military instructors are sent to the Central African Republic to train servicemen of the army of this African state.

    Uh-huh ... at one time Executive Outcomes also signed a contract for the "training" of the Angolan army. And it all ended with direct participation in the battles - air attacks and ground operations.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 22 December 2020 21: 52
      +1
      The funny thing is how the Luanda embankment has become one of the most expensive in the world.
  • Dimide
    Dimide 22 December 2020 19: 14
    +1
    Recently I read that the local potentate is being guarded either by plowshares or "Wagnerians"
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 22 December 2020 19: 33
      +4
      Why read if there is a photo-video?


      1. CommanderDIVA
        CommanderDIVA 22 December 2020 19: 47
        +6
        These are most likely representatives of some of our PMCs, who have been there since the summer, besides Wagner, there are already enough of them, and our 300 instructors already officially represent Russia, maybe the MTR
        1. Dimide
          Dimide 22 December 2020 19: 55
          +4
          "Wagnerovtsev" took in brackets (collective image of Russian PMCs in the west) laughing
      2. Dimide
        Dimide 22 December 2020 19: 58
        +1
        I am more of a "retrograde", prefer a printed word with a photo than a video laughing
      3. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 22 December 2020 20: 20
        +5
        Indeed. There are no whites on the planet except Russians laughing And here clearly white people are walking, and even with Kalash, which have never been sold to anyone and are produced only in Izhevsk in an atmosphere of terrible secrecy laughing
        Moreover, they have top-secret newest developments of the AKM brand
      4. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 22 December 2020 21: 44
        +5
        So kind of well "packaged".
  • Dmitry Makarov
    Dmitry Makarov 22 December 2020 19: 29
    -6
    For such purposes, the Aircraft Carrier is needed in order to promptly deliver Strikes and dictate its Will to all rebellious kings!
    1. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 22 December 2020 19: 33
      +11
      Quote: Dmitry Makarov
      For such purposes, the Aircraft Carrier is needed in order to promptly deliver Strikes and dictate its Will to all rebellious kings!

      CAR has no outlet to the Sea laughing ... unless only to the Belarusian !!! belay
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 22 December 2020 19: 35
      +6
      Name CENTRAL does the African republic tell you anything? This is where an aircraft carrier would not be of much help. For strikes must be delivered more than 1000 km from the Gulf of Guinea.
    3. Free Island
      Free Island 23 December 2020 00: 53
      0
      It remains only to ask the Sumerians to dig the sea next to the CAR for an aircraft carrier, they already have experience in digging seas
  • GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 22 December 2020 19: 44
    +2
    And that morning it was screaming ...
  • Arnaut
    Arnaut 22 December 2020 19: 49
    0
    Is CAR a sacred place for Russia?
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 22 December 2020 20: 04
    +2
    Couldn't the Chinese have been sent instead of ours? Why do we need this CAR and their eternal upheavals?
    1. Nazar
      Nazar 22 December 2020 20: 13
      +2
      evgen1221 (eugene) - Uranus is there ... and we have RosAtom, here is such a "coincidence" fellow
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 22 December 2020 20: 06
    +5
    In the morning, a number of clowns in a similar topic assured that it was all "French fake" laughing
    Some-ss in the eyes all the dew of God
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 22 December 2020 20: 16
    +5
    "Recall that the situation in the CAR in recent weeks has deteriorated sharply
    in terms of security "///
    ----
    Translated into simple language: several PMCs were defeated
    and retreat.
    To save them from defeat, parts of contract soldiers are transferred there.
    Russian army.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 22 December 2020 20: 42
      +4
      All that you know, which side are you fighting, so that you can send news. Although what I say, where there are diamonds at least one Jew will buy them in the shop.
    2. cniza
      cniza 22 December 2020 20: 56
      +2
      I suspect that everyone is guessing on the coffee grounds, and certainly the Russian army is not simply sent there ...
  • Avior
    Avior 22 December 2020 20: 19
    +2
    And yesterday ...
    The special representative of the President of the Russian Federation for the Middle East and Africa, Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation Mikhail Bogdanov denied reports about the sending of Russian military and equipment to the Central African Republic.

    Then, after all, questions will arise why they do not believe: (((
    It was possible to wait a day, agree on everything, and not substitute so ridiculous ...
  • Virus-free crown
    Virus-free crown 22 December 2020 20: 51
    -3
    I think that the Russian Federation will open its base there under the guise of now - and it will be awful !!! good under the guise of fraternal help in the nodal center to open your military base - super! drinks
  • Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 22 December 2020 21: 44
    +4
    Both Cuba and Afghan began with advisers.
    There are no parallels. Just a story.
    With a good ending?
    And is there militarism with a human face at all?
    1. Graduate student
      Graduate student 22 December 2020 23: 14
      +25
      And what about Cuba? We fought with someone there?
      1. Dkuznecov
        Dkuznecov 23 December 2020 16: 00
        0
        Read about the Cuban War in Africa.
  • Runway
    Runway 22 December 2020 23: 02
    0
    There will be 300 “vacancies” and 25 million. High-tech jobs ..... continue to shrink.
  • yfast
    yfast 22 December 2020 23: 13
    +2
    Quote: cat Rusich
    The USSR has already gone through all this ... Let us recall Afghanistan. We need to work with the population, but rebels track using UAVs (the terrain allows - bald plateau, there are not many forests) and hit from the air.

    Then you have to sell tours right away, safaris on people from the air, it doesn't matter who gets there.
  • Graduate student
    Graduate student 22 December 2020 23: 13
    +19
    Russian Foreign Ministry confirmed information about sending 300 Russian military instructors to CAR

    Are we making the mistake of being drawn into another conflict?
  • Graduate student
    Graduate student 22 December 2020 23: 15
    +21
    If in the morning the Russian ambassador to the Central African Republic made statements that only a few Russian military instructors assigned to the Ministry of Defense of this country were in the CAR, now the Russian Foreign Ministry is voicing information of a different kind.

    It was the same in the morning ... bully
  • Free Island
    Free Island 23 December 2020 00: 41
    -1
    On the YouTube channel of the great Sumerians, diggers of the Black Sea and the accumulators of the Egyptian pyramids, Destructive, some kind of Salo fan in an omnipresent voice is already broadcasting that thousands of Russian military died in the CAR, including tens of thousands of popular Wagnerites
  • certero
    certero 23 December 2020 01: 01
    +3
    I immediately remember how China sent about a million "volunteers" to North Korea.
    300 "instructors" from about the same opera.
    At one time, white mercenaries numbering 50-60 people captured such countries.
  • certero
    certero 23 December 2020 01: 02
    +4
    Quote: DKuznecov
    Cuba and Afghan began with advisers.

    What side did they drag Cuba?
    By the way, Cubans fought in almost all of Africa
    1. Dkuznecov
      Dkuznecov 23 December 2020 16: 04
      0
      Mentioned because to fight
      in Africa someone advised them.
      Is not it ?
  • Dikson
    Dikson 23 December 2020 08: 16
    0
    Syria is not enough for us, right? And Karabakh .. Are African cannibals threatening us now? The PMCs of the guarantor's friends once again got snot and they urgently need help .. This is great news. Just like the new tradition of FSO employees - to shoot every month at the workplace .. Hard work, what to do ..
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 24 December 2020 07: 07
    0
    Take a trip guys. They will rest. Sunburn. This is a necessary and useful business for the state. And there was no need to explain anything to the Foreign Ministry ... Who cares? ..