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New opportunities for science. Ice-resistant self-propelled platform "North Pole"

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General view of the platform vessel pr. 00903


On December 18, at the Admiralteiskie Verfi shipyard (St. Petersburg), the launching ceremony of the North Pole ice-resistant self-propelled platform took place. The unique vessel, project 00903, is being built by the order of Roshydromet and will join the scientific fleet in the near future. With its help, new studies of the Arctic will be carried out, impossible or excessively difficult in the current conditions.

In the interests of science


In 1937-2015. our country has deployed more than 40 drifting research stations "North Pole", providing a comprehensive study of the Arctic region. In recent years, such stations have not been built due to climate change and increased risks. Nevertheless, a way was found to conduct research without threats to polar explorers and materiel.

In 2015-16. Design Bureau Vympel and the Admiralteiskie Verfi shipyard have begun working on the appearance of a promising research platform vessel for a research station. In 2018, a preliminary design was ready, which made it possible to transfer the construction program to a new stage.


"North Pole" on the slip, December 18, 2020

On April 19, 2018, the Federal Service for Hydrometeorology and Environmental Monitoring (Roshydromet) and Admiralteyskie Verfi signed a contract for the development of a technical design for an ice-resistant self-propelled platform “00903” with the subsequent construction of such a vessel. The cost of the work was estimated at almost 7 billion rubles. Delivery of the finished platform was expected by the end of 2020.

The construction of the vessel was launched at the end of 2018.On April 10, 2019, the groundbreaking ceremony took place. The platform received the name "North Pole". In the spring of this year, it became known that the customer had adjusted his requirements. The need to finalize the project and the implementation of such changes led to an increase in the cost of the project by 2-2,5 billion rubles. and to the shift in the delivery date of the platform at the end of 2022.


The construction of the research vessel continued and has now entered a new stage. On December 18, the hull was launched. Now the North Pole is located at the quay wall, where the completion is under way. This work will be completed no earlier than next year, and in 2022 it is planned to complete all the necessary tests.

Technical appearance


Specific requirements were imposed on the 00903 project, which led to the formation of an unusual appearance of the platform. So, the vessel should be able to overcome ice, as well as a long drift along with ice floes at any time of the year. There are high requirements for autonomy. In addition, a large variety of scientific equipment must be accommodated on board the platform. In fact, it is planned to build a self-propelled research center with broad capabilities.


According to the project, the "North Pole" has a length of 83,1 m, a width of 22,5 m and a displacement of approx. 10,4 thousand tons Due to the special conditions of service, the vessel received a hull of an original design. Its lower part is egg-shaped, which prevents ice squeezing and destruction. High sides are provided; there is no pronounced large superstructure. The platform as a whole has an Arc5 ice class - independent navigation in first-year ice up to 1 m thick. At the same time, the hull corresponds to the Arc8 class, which allows it to independently operate in ice up to 2-3 m thick.

The platform will receive a non-nuclear power plant with a capacity of 4200 kW. Movement will be provided by two rudder-propellers in the stern and a bow thruster. The maximum speed will exceed 10 knots. Movement in ice is possible both behind the icebreaker and independently. Due to the large supply of fuel on board and in connection with the specific operating modes of the power plant, the autonomy for fuel has been brought to 2 years.


Several laboratories for various purposes will be located on board the North Pole. The vessel will be able to conduct geological, geophysical, oceanographic, acoustic and other research. Also, the vessel will be able to carry an arctic Mi-8AMT helicopter, boats and other equipment.

Own crew of the vessel - 14 people. Another 34 people will make up the research team. They will be able to operate as a polar station for a long time. Safe and comfortable living and working conditions will be ensured at air temperatures down to -50 ° C.

Significance for science


Together with a promising ice-resistant self-propelled platform, Roshydromet will receive a number of new opportunities for conducting research in harsh Arctic conditions. In its main role, the North Pole will become a replacement for the drifting stations of the same name on ice floes, which has significant advantages over them.


The standard scenario for using a self-propelled platform is quite interesting. The vessel, independently or with the help of an icebreaker, will have to go to a given point and go to drift. Without damage to the structure, it will be able to freeze into the ice and continue sailing with it. This drift can last up to two years, after which the platform will turn on the engines again and go to base. If necessary, the ship will be able to receive or send helicopters with cargo and passengers.

A self-propelled platform as a base for a research station has obvious advantages over an ice floe. It is safe, predictable and manageable. In addition, the ship can accommodate more scientific equipment with greater convenience and efficiency, as well as ensure its power supply and full operation. Finally, it is easier to organize the proper comfort for the crew and scientists.


The North Pole is a unique vessel. A specialized platform for organizing drifting stations is being created for the first time not only in our country, but also in the world. This novelty is directly related to a number of advantages. At the same time, it leads to certain risks and difficulties. Thus, the final appearance of the platform was not immediately formed, and its adjustments led to a shift in terms and an increase in the cost of construction.

Expected future


A few days ago, the ice-resistant self-propelled platform of the new project was launched and taken to the wall for completion. In the near future, "Admiralty Shipyards" will install all the remaining equipment on the ship, incl. scientific purpose, and then take it to sea trials. These activities are planned to be completed by the end of 2022, after which the finished North Pole will be handed over to Roshydromet.

Already in 2023, the new research vessel can set off on its first expedition. It is very likely that scientists will use its main capabilities and resume the practice of deploying drifting stations. In the distant future, one should expect the resumption of long-term and regular work of such scientific objects, which is impossible under current conditions.


It is obvious that the platform of project 00903 is capable not only of drifting with ice. With the help of the "North Pole" it will be possible to organize any other scientific expeditions with the aim of a comprehensive study of the Arctic. Probably, special attention will be paid to research ensuring the economic development of the region. In addition, the results of scientific work can be useful for the military department, which is responsible for protecting the northern borders.

Thus, already now, two years before the expected delivery, it is clear that the new research platform vessel will not be idle. Roshydromet, independently and in cooperation with other departments, will conduct a lot of expeditions of various kinds. The North Pole under construction will be an excellent addition to the existing research fleet and will seriously expand its capabilities.
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  1. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 23 December 2020 04: 53
    +14
    A very impressive project! good displacement more than 10 thousand tons, hull "non-standard" egg-shaped belay , autonomy 2 years. I Think Scientific Research in the Arctic - Will Reach a New Level!
    We are waiting for a successful completion of construction!
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 23 December 2020 05: 16
      +3
      New opportunities for science
      Why ... wrinkle a bald head! The bourgeois are jealous ... Even in the Soviet Union they did not do this!
      Well done!
      1. smart ass
        smart ass 23 December 2020 05: 35
        0
        I agree, shipbuilding has reached a new level, ships are molded like cakes
        1. Yura
          Yura 23 December 2020 07: 34
          +11
          Quote: Clever man
          I agree, shipbuilding has reached a new level, ships are molded like cakes

          The British analytical agency Clarkson Research has published a rating in which Russia took the second place in the world in shipbuilding. This is a rather unexpected result, since the three leaders previously remained unchanged for a long time: South Korea, China, Japan.
          The first place traditionally went to South Korea: in the third quarter it accounted for 45% of all world shipbuilding. In absolute terms, this is 1,42 million CGT (CGT is a registered ton, a unit of volume equal to 100 cubic feet, that is, 2,83 m³ and the tonnage of all ships is converted into registered tons, so that it is convenient to compare them with each other, and the rating takes into account the tonnage).
          China has traditionally followed South Korea. But this time Russia took the second line of the rating. Over the past three months, the volume of Russian shipbuilding tonnage amounted to 860 thousand CGT. This is 30 thousand tons more than China, which this time took the third line of the rating.
      2. Far B
        Far B 23 December 2020 05: 40
        -6
        Even in the Soviet Union they didn’t do it!
        Damn, was that necessary? The Union has not existed for 30 years, now, in theory, completely different technological possibilities. Just like in "Operation" Y, in an episode at a construction site, Pugovkin the foreman succeeded, honestly.
        And the project, of course, is gorgeous, you will not say anything. Both the idea and the embodiment. It is a little annoying that it has moved "to the right" again with an increase in cost, but the total period is still short.
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 23 December 2020 06: 00
          +2
          Quote: Dalny V
          other technological possibilities

          Well at least they enlightened, but I thought so on rivets and build steamers ...
        2. Simargl
          Simargl 23 December 2020 07: 04
          -7
          Quote: Dalny V
          It is a little annoying that it has moved "to the right" again with an increase in cost, but the total period is still short.
          Well, yes: no one did, what to fill the project with is not entirely clear, the drifting stations were abandoned, but it must be done on time!
        3. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 23 December 2020 07: 14
          -1
          [quote = Far B] It is a little annoying that it has moved "to the right" again with an increase in cost, but the total period is still low. [/ quote]
          Well, it's not just that they moved \
          [quote] In the spring of this year, it became known that the customer has adjusted its requirements. [/ Quote]
          And who knows how seriously he corrected
        4. venik
          venik 23 December 2020 16: 41
          0
          Quote: Dalny V
          Damn, was that necessary? The Union has not existed for 30 years, now, in theory, completely different technological possibilities.

          =========
          So it is so ... But only the Union had technological, economic, scientific and technical capabilities that allowed in very many industries to be "ahead of the rest" (and this not a joke!). But the possibilities of modern Russia will be more modest! Especially economic opportunities .... So many continue to draw parallels with the USSR and do the right thing!
      3. Brylevsky
        Brylevsky 23 December 2020 06: 37
        -26%
        Even in the Soviet Union they didn’t do it!

        And what this built? A self-propelled platform with icebreaker lines with a displacement of 10 thousand tons? This is a "breakthrough", unambiguously ... In South Korea and China, at "bamboo shipyards", the world's largest bulk carriers and tankers are built in two or three years, which then bring profit to the state treasury; we have built another sucker of the state budget. Can't keep a scientific group on an ordinary icebreaker for research? Accommodation conditions are wonderful! The icebreaker, at least, at least makes money on ice escorts, but this freak Will it ever pay off?
        1. Mykhalych
          Mykhalych 23 December 2020 06: 59
          +5
          Quote: Brylevsky
          Can't keep a scientific group on an ordinary icebreaker for research? Accommodation conditions are wonderful! The icebreaker, at least, at least earns money on ice escorts, but this freak will ever pay off?

          Mr, “Russia, which pays special attention to the Arctic region, has launched a new Arctic research vessel“ North Pole. ”This vessel of project 00903 is called an“ ice-resistant self-propelled platform ”(LSP), and it is designed to sail in the ice latitudes of the Far North, where scientists will study conducting oceanographic, acoustic, geophysical and geological observations. It will be able to stay in the open ocean for up to two years without a break. "- you propose to use the icebreaker for this, as far as I understand, but how is the icebreaker going to make money on escorting (ice) doing scientific research ... request
          1. Brylevsky
            Brylevsky 23 December 2020 07: 22
            -24%
            but how will the icebreaker make money on escorts

            How will this platform make money? Yes, it won't be! Because she will spend them! All! In principle, she is not capable of anything else! And the scientific group can (and should!) Be transferred from the icebreaker to the icebreaker! On one "stayed", moved to the other! The previous one at this moment begins to work according to his direct purpose, and will work off the people's money thrown into him! Although ... most of those reading these lines do not understand their meaning ... Rogozin, if I'm not mistaken, wanted to build a separate building for Rosskosmos? Obviously, our missiles would fly better ... Does it ever occur to you that this platform is akin to the construction of that very building? The desired effect can be achieved with less cost! But we need a "breakthrough" ... again, - a picture "in the subject": "The fleet is being built, hurray, comrades!" And what is being built not the right fleet, well, who really cares? "People are eating ..." And he is still eating ...
            1. Mykhalych
              Mykhalych 23 December 2020 07: 27
              +6
              Quote: Brylevsky
              Because she will spend them! All! In principle, she is not capable of anything else! And the scientific group can (and should!) Be transferred from the icebreaker to the icebreaker!
              belay
              Everything is clear, I have no more questions!
              1. Brylevsky
                Brylevsky 23 December 2020 07: 38
                -21%
                Ships normally moor side by side at sea and transfer not only people but also thousands of tons of cargo to each other - is this obviously news to you? Helicopters normally fly between ships, especially icebreakers, and they transfer not only people, but also transport cargo, including scientific equipment - there is no problem to transfer or transport a scientific group, along with their belongings, from one vessel to another.
                Everything is clear, I have no more questions!

                So I'm talking about this ... "people hawala" and has no questions to the organizers of this scam ...
            2. Alexey RA
              Alexey RA 23 December 2020 11: 00
              +21
              Quote: Brylevsky
              And the scientific group can (and should!) Be transferred from the icebreaker to the icebreaker! On one "stayed", moved to the other! The previous one at this moment begins to work according to his direct purpose, and will work off the people's money thrown into him!

              Who will give you an icebreaker to freeze it into the ice for six months or a year?
              But no, they will - but they will roll out such an expense to science that it will be possible to forget about continuing research for five years. Lost profit - she is.
              And about transferring from ship to ship ... try at the institute to arrange laboratory transfers every couple of months. With all the belongings. Right in the middle of some research cycle, preferably a continuous one. smile
              1. Bad_gr
                Bad_gr 23 December 2020 11: 38
                0
                Quote: Alexey RA
                Who will give you an icebreaker to freeze it into the ice for six months or a year?

                And then constantly run around on it, delivering fuel, food and changing people, since the living conditions on the icebreaker probably differ not for the better in comparison with this hotel.
              2. DrEng527
                DrEng527 23 December 2020 18: 04
                +1
                Quote: Alexey RA
                try at the institute to arrange laboratory moves every couple of months. With all the belongings

                2 moving is like 1 fire ... request
            3. Reserve buildbat
              Reserve buildbat 23 December 2020 15: 44
              +2
              I immediately remembered:
            4. Eragon
              Eragon 27 December 2020 14: 30
              0
              Quote: Brylevsky

              How will this platform make money? Yes, it won't be! Because she will spend them! All! In principle, she is not capable of anything else!

              Don't confuse science and business. Science in general and education in particular never brings direct profit. This is not a business.
              But here's a fresh example. Thanks to scientific research, Russia substantiated its claims and achieved recognition of the Arctic shelf area of ​​1,2 million km with Russia, according to the minimum estimates, the presence of fuel alone 5 trillion. tons of fuel equivalent. Apart from everything else. So-so "stuck" to Russia a piece of 1200x1000 km (the proportions are naturally different). What are the areas of countries in Europe?
              And it is more productive to work, nevertheless, not in a frozen tent with a minimum of equipment and without jumping like a flea from one unequipped ship to another.
            5. nickname7
              nickname7 22 March 2021 07: 24
              0
              And you demand money not to spend on anything, but to withdraw it into securities and save, it is better, according to you, to live in dugouts with billions of dollars in accounts.
        2. Woodman
          Woodman 23 December 2020 08: 14
          +7
          Quote: Brylevsky
          In South Korea and China, at "bamboo shipyards", the world's largest bulk carriers and tankers are built in two or three years, which then bring profit to the state treasury; we have built another sucker of the state budget.

          News for the last month and a half:
          The Kostroma shipyard launched a chemical tanker intended for a Dutch customer. Yes, Russia builds ships not only for itself, but also for foreign buyers, including European ones. As part of the current long-term contract, a total of 5 vessels have already been built in Kostroma, and they will be producing new ones within ten years.

          Launched chemical carrier is a new model vessel. Its length is 135 meters, whereas earlier the company built 110 meters long tankers for export. These dimensions are the maximum for use in the European river system, everything that will be more related to ships of the sea class. The ship was built in the shortest possible time, practically, in seven months instead of 9-12 months, usually required for such work. The process was accelerated by the advanced "ceramic" welding technology introduced at the plant.

          The Zvezda shipbuilding complex has started cutting steel for the lead vessel of a new series - an ice-class LNG tanker ARC 7. In the Russian Federation, LNG carriers are being built for the first time. For many years, they were ordered exclusively abroad. The construction of gas carriers is one of the most technologically complex processes in the world shipbuilding.

          LNG carriers of ice class ARC 7 are designed to transport liquefied natural gas and are able to operate in harsh climatic conditions. The length of the vessel is 300 m, the width is 48,8 m, the capacity of cargo tanks is 172,6 thousand m3. These vessels are distinguished by increased environmental safety - they use liquefied natural gas as the main fuel.


          The keel-laying ceremony of the KMT02.02 project fishing trawler for the ATLANTRYBFLOT company (Kaliningrad) was held at the Vyborg shipyard.

          The vessel is designed for catching bottom fish species, sorting, gutting and filleting fish, as well as for releasing fodder minced meat, liquid fish waste and fish meal. The technological equipment installed on board the trawler allows daily production of 105 tons of frozen fish products, 40 tons of fish fillets and 8 tons of fish meal and fish oil.


          The Russian flag was raised today on the trawler-seiner "Vasily Kaplyuk", built at the Baltic shipyard "Yantar". Customer - Fishing collective farm named after Lenin. She became the third seiner trawler of the SK-3101R project, built by Kaliningrad shipbuilders for Kamchatka fishermen.

          The contract was the first in Russia for the construction of such vessels for a domestic customer over the past 20 years, as well as the first order under the state investment program “keel quotas”.

          LAUNCHED NEW AFRAMAX ON ZVEZDA

          A good pace, this is already the sixth vessel in a series of 12 tankers in the order book of SSK "Zvezda".

          The Aframax tankers with a deadweight of 114 tons, a length of 250 meters and a width of 44 meters will be the first vessels of this type built in Russia. They are equipped with the most advanced class A automation system. "Green" Aframaxes are designed to transport crude oil in an unlimited navigation area thanks to power plants that can operate on environmentally friendly fuel - liquefied natural gas in accordance with high environmental standards.

          the keel-laying of the second crab-fishing vessel of the CCa 5712LS project, which the shipyard is building by order of the Russian Crab State Corporation, took place at the Onega shipbuilding and ship-repairing plant. The entire series will consist of seven vessels for catching and transporting live crab. New crab catchers will fish in the basins of the Okhotsk and Bering seas.

          At the Zvezda shipyard in the Primorsky Territory, the first multifunctional reinforced ice-class supply vessel Icebreaker 7 Katerina Velikaya was launched from the slipway. This is the lead vessel in a series of four vessels for Rosneft.

          Descent from the slipway marked the end of the slipway stage of construction: the formation of the ship's hull and its saturation with systems and mechanisms. One of the final operations of this stage was the installation of rudder propellers - a key element of the ship's electric propulsion system, which ensures its high running and maneuvering qualities. The supplier was equipped with two high-ice dispensers with a capacity of 7,5 MW each. Each weighs 130 tons, height - 6 m, length -10 meters. These VRKs will allow the vessel to overcome the Arctic ice with a thickness of more than 1,5 m.

          Multifunctional supply vessels of reinforced ice class have a high degree of equipment saturation. Their length is 106 m, width - 22 m, deadweight - 5100 t.The vessels are designed for an unlimited navigation area, including in difficult climatic conditions, and for performing a variety of operations: transportation of goods to offshore facilities, icebreaking operations, ice control, rescue , escort, firefighting, towing of large objects, transportation of containers on the main deck.

          The fourth serial Russian nuclear-powered icebreaker Chukotka, project 22220, was laid down at the Baltic Shipyard.

          Director of the Baltic Shipyard Aleksey Kadilov: "In the recent history of the Baltic Shipyard there have not been such series yet, as many as five vessels of the same project!"

          Alexey Likhachev, General Director of Rosatom State Corporation: “The new series of icebreakers is a triumph of engineering thought. These are the most powerful and most efficient icebreakers on the planet today. And, of course, our pride is the constant increase in the share of Russian components. I am sure that new innovative solutions are ahead of us. "

          Let us remind you that nuclear-powered ships of project 22220 will be able to navigate ships, breaking through ice up to three meters thick. In October, the world's most powerful lead universal nuclear-powered ship "Arktika" of Project 22220 officially entered the Russian nuclear fleet.

          The first crab fishing vessel "Okhotsk", built in the Far East, was launched in Vladivostok. The crab catcher project includes the concept of a universal modular complex. That is, the vessel can adapt to the extraction of other types of aquatic biological resources - it can be used for catching and transporting live crab, like processor crab, longliners, shrimp. Fishing at Okhotsk is planned to start no later than autumn 2021.

          In total, Vostochnaya Verf will build five project vessels for catching live crab and producing finished products. In 2021 and 2022, it is planned to commission one crab catcher each, two more in 2023, the fifth crab catcher is scheduled to be handed over to the customer in 2024.
          1. Brylevsky
            Brylevsky 23 December 2020 08: 27
            -5
            I was on the "Zvezda" in 2018-2019 ... I saw on the shore the bow end of some huge steamer was lying. I ask the factory:
            - What do you have here?
            -This is the "blank" tanker brought to us from South Korea ...
            On "Zvezda" only the cylindrical, the simplest, part of the vessel is made. The bow and stern are made in South Korea and then brought to Bolshoy Kamen for the assembly of the finished "kit" ... Does the "diagram" remind you of anything? Yes, it is the most - "screwdriver assembly". All the equipment, all the more or less complex and responsible stuffing of the ship - all this was done in Korea and China. The plant workers joked that "only the signs on the cabin doors were made in Russia." And I personally brought sheet steel for the cylindrical part of this tanker ... that's right, from South Korea. Copy - Past, this, of course, is convenient, but sometimes it does not interfere with understanding the subject of the question yourself ...
            1. lucul
              lucul 23 December 2020 10: 27
              -1
              All the equipment, all the more or less complex and responsible stuffing of the ship - all this was done in Korea and China.

              The problem is that they build - because they are cheaper (+30 degrees all year round) and because they are still selling raw materials. As soon as the supply of raw materials stops, all of their shipbuilding will immediately be cured.
              The world is breaking up into its own technological zones, and soon supplies of raw materials to other technological zones may not arrive.
        3. lucul
          lucul 23 December 2020 10: 16
          -1
          What was it built? A self-propelled platform with icebreaker lines with a displacement of 10 thousand tons?

          As usual, a liberal needs to chew everything, because what is not in his training manual does not exist a priori.
          The whole uniqueness of this platform is that it cannot be firmly frozen into the ice, like any icebreaker. The special shape of the hull is created in such a way that when the platform is clamped by ice, they simply squeeze it up (!!!!) because of the ice, as a result of which, it then and again breaks the ice with its weight (10 tons after all), and so over and over.
          Not a single icebreaker can do this - when frozen into the ice, the ice can simply crush the icebreaker, but this platform does not.
          This is a small educational program for liberals))))
        4. smart ass
          smart ass 23 December 2020 10: 23
          +2
          Ahaha bamboo shipyard in South Korea seen? Deo)))
        5. Bad_gr
          Bad_gr 23 December 2020 11: 45
          +2
          Quote: Brylevsky
          we have built another sucker of the state budget.
          Tolya had to deal with it earlier: they put people on the ice, unloaded equipment for them, and then their problems. And if they ate only polar bears, it would be generally cheap.
          1. datura23
            datura23 23 December 2020 12: 24
            +1
            poisonous bears
      4. Brylevsky
        Brylevsky 23 December 2020 07: 01
        -5
        Even in the Soviet Union they didn’t do it!

        In the USSR, they did things that were incommensurable in comparison with capitalist Russia. For example, the research vessel "Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin", in your opinion, is more complicated? Yes, it's harder. And smarter.
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 23 December 2020 07: 23
          +3
          Quote: Brylevsky
          Yes, it's harder.

          We will not argue about Soviet shipbuilding - the nuclear-powered lighter-carrier "Sevmorput" is still in service! I'm talking about the very concept of THIS scientist ... hi
          1. Brylevsky
            Brylevsky 23 December 2020 07: 28
            -13%
            I'm talking about the very concept of THIS scientist ...

            Well, what the fuck is he? Can't a conventional diesel-electric icebreaker cope with the task of scientific research? We already had them at the time of construction of this freak.
            1. Uncle lee
              Uncle lee 23 December 2020 07: 33
              0
              The ship is built to order Roshydromet within the framework of the state program for the socio-economic development of the Arctic zone. All questions for them ...
              1. Uncle lee
                Uncle lee 23 December 2020 09: 39
                +6
                I'm crazy! I wanted to rejoice for the Russian shipbuilding industry and received a lull from both the Whites and the Reds! Don't mess around, girls! hi
                1. Orkraider
                  Orkraider 23 December 2020 15: 57
                  0
                  Quote: Uncle Lee
                  I'm crazy! I wanted to rejoice for the Russian shipbuilding industry and received a lull from both the Whites and the Reds! Don't mess around, girls! hi


                  Greetings!
                  hi
                  It happens, sometimes you don't understand what is happening laughing
                  But on the whole, it is positive, because in other cases they say: nothing is being done for the development of science, everything is for the sake of the dough ... but here the direct costs of science good
            2. datura23
              datura23 23 December 2020 12: 27
              +1
              Can the customer know better which ship is right for him or are you a specialist in scientific shipbuilding, or a specialist in science in the Arctic zone?
      5. not main
        not main 23 December 2020 23: 07
        -1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        New opportunities for science
        Why ... wrinkle a bald head! The bourgeois are jealous ... Even in the Soviet Union they did not do this!
        Well done!

        At the expense of envy it to the point! The US has already declared that this is the "ugliest" ship!
      6. silverura
        silverura 15 February 2021 18: 58
        -1
        Why ... wrinkle a bald head! The bourgeois are jealous ... Even in the Soviet Union they did not do this!

        This is the level, the doomsday ship for others. Straight some kind of fantasy.
        They are afraid of everyone!
    2. Coward
      Coward 23 December 2020 05: 31
      +3
      I just did not understand about the non-standard contours of the egg-shaped body. These lines are just the standard for icebreakers.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 23 December 2020 06: 04
        -2
        Quote: Coward
        These lines are just the standard for icebreakers.

        For icebreakers. And this platform is designed to drift.
        Thus, the vessel should be able to overcome ice, as well as a long drift along with ice floes at any time of the year.

        Its lower part is egg-shaped, which prevents ice squeezing and destruction.
        1. Coward
          Coward 23 December 2020 06: 14
          +2
          So in the drift it will be compressed by ice, therefore for it these contours are standard.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 23 December 2020 06: 19
            -3
            Quote: Coward
            So in the drift it will be compressed by ice, therefore for it these contours are standard.

            Science does not stand still. Most likely they came up with something new
            The need to finalize the project and the implementation of such changes led to an increase in the cost of the project by 2-2,5 billion rubles. and the shift in the delivery date of the platform at the end of 2022.

            This is the first thing. And secondly, the icebreaker is moving, not drifting and its ice is not compressed.
            Well, the icebreaker does not break ice, but breaks it with its own weight.
            1. Simargl
              Simargl 23 December 2020 07: 05
              +2
              Quote: Lipchanin
              Most likely they came up with something new
              I think this is not the outline of the body, but the content of the project.
              1. Lipchanin
                Lipchanin 23 December 2020 07: 11
                -2
                Quote: Simargl
                I think this is not the outline of the body, but the content of the project.

                Maybe so
        2. Brylevsky
          Brylevsky 23 December 2020 07: 53
          -10%
          And this platform is designed to drift.

          Isn't it cheaper to use a drifting station for this? The USSR had rich experience in organizing scientific research at drifting stations! Please note - they coped, they moved science ... and they did without a self-propelled barge, with a displacement of under 10 thousand tons. What the fuck is such a tonnage !? There are no storms in the ice field! And for everything else, there are regular icebreakers!
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 23 December 2020 11: 04
            +2
            Quote: Brylevsky
            Isn't it cheaper to use a drifting station for this? The USSR had rich experience in organizing scientific research at drifting stations!

            We read the article:
            In recent years, such stations have not been built due to climate change and increased risks. Nevertheless, a way was found to conduct research without threats to polar explorers and materiel.
          2. nickname7
            nickname7 22 March 2021 07: 37
            0
            Isn't it cheaper to use a drifting station for this?

            Yes, it is cheaper to build an igloo out of snow, illuminate with seal oil, walk in deer skins, it will be cheap, to reduce the cost of trips to ride dogs.
            Let the scientists graze deer and hunt prison seals to make it cheaper.

      2. NDR-791
        NDR-791 23 December 2020 06: 07
        +9
        These lines are just the standard for icebreakers.
        It was as a drifting platform, not an icebreaker, that Fram Amundsen was first. Although he repeated the contours of the Pomor koch.
        1. Coward
          Coward 23 December 2020 06: 17
          +3
          So I also say that egg-shaped contours are standard to prevent crushing of the ship's hull and for a drifting platform "God himself ordered" to use them.
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 23 December 2020 06: 43
            0
            Quote: Coward
            e to prevent crushing of the ship's hull and for a drifting platform

            Let the icebreaker not drift !!!
            For a drifting station, other contours so that the ship squeezed out ice
            Icebreaker crushes ice.
            There is a difference?
            1. Coward
              Coward 23 December 2020 09: 40
              -1
              If you are not aware of the topic, then it is better not to shame.
    3. Civil
      Civil 23 December 2020 07: 20
      +8
      I've been following the project for a long time, a very interesting solution to the issue with drifting stations, once it's okay to do it and not leave the materiel on the ice. Fine!
      1. Brylevsky
        Brylevsky 23 December 2020 07: 55
        -12%
        once it's ok to do and not leave the materiel on the ice.

        What prevents you from picking it up by plane or helicopter?
        1. Civil
          Civil 23 December 2020 07: 59
          +9
          Quote: Brylevsky
          once it's ok to do and not leave the materiel on the ice.

          What prevents you from picking it up by plane or helicopter?

          Freezes into the ice, look at the photo during the evacuation ... even a tractor can not be taken out. Well, all this is not safe. Human life is more important than money.
          1. Brylevsky
            Brylevsky 23 December 2020 08: 14
            -10%
            Freezes into the ice, look at the photo during the evacuation ... even a tractor can not be taken out.

            Man, this isn't serious. When you really need to - get it, believe me. And they warm it up, and pull it off with a winch ... but there are many ways, especially when there is a prize for this business ... it is better if the state one ... The USSR even had polar aviation with the corresponding specifics of use ... Believe me, two or three flights of the Mi-8 helicopter are much cheaper than this self-propelled freak, weighing 10 thousand tons, and 30-45 days of decommissioning a diesel-electric icebreaker will also cost much, much cheaper ... This ship is a financial scam. Even at the time of the creation of its concept, its tasks were solved by other means, and for different money.
            1. Civil
              Civil 23 December 2020 08: 22
              +5
              Quote: Brylevsky
              This ship is a financial scam. Even at the time of the creation of his concept, his tasks were solved by other means, and for different money.

              I understand, but this is rather an attempt to get rid of the complex of annual tasks, "here's a ship - do what you do there", you do not need a coastal structure, airfield support, and related tasks of supply / tracking. Loaded, waved a handkerchief from the pier - forgotten before arrival.
        2. loki565
          loki565 23 December 2020 09: 01
          +10
          Everything is so simple while you are sitting warm on the couch, and for a drifting station, every day can be the last. Moreover, it is almost impossible to predict this, today everything is fine and tomorrow people will be left homeless in 40 degrees of frost and they must be urgently evacuated. And sometimes the landing of the helicopter is difficult, and the icebreaker will take weeks to get there.
          1. Brylevsky
            Brylevsky 23 December 2020 09: 56
            -8
            Moreover, it is almost impossible to predict this.

            Believe it or not, they predict. Specially trained people and prediction is called "ice forecast". It is transmitted several times a day, on short waves, and is received by facsimile equipment. Another thing is that some ass-headed people do not know how to read this forecast and looking at a fresh ice map, they see a fig there. This, yes, - it happens, all the time ... and that's the point, and nothing else. Do you think that it is impossible to predict an increase in wind and, as a result, hummocking at sea? Well, what can I say to that ... this is the first course of the nautical school, the subject "Navigational hydrometeorology".
            1. loki565
              loki565 23 December 2020 10: 02
              +7
              Well, they predicted an increase in the wind, then what? Is the station teleported to another location? or will aviation be able to operate in strong winds? And on this platform, all risks are minimized
      2. Profiler
        Profiler 23 December 2020 08: 01
        +2
        Due to the large supply of fuel on board and in connection with the specific operating modes of the power plant, the autonomy for fuel has been increased to 2 years.

        I'm even afraid to guess how much diesel fuel it is in tons ...
        And if you count it as an ordinary person accustomed to filling in liters, then in general the figure will come out exciting!
        1. Civil
          Civil 23 December 2020 08: 11
          +3
          Quote: Profiler
          I'm even afraid to guess how much diesel fuel it is in tons ...
          And if you count it as an ordinary person accustomed to filling in liters, then in general the figure will come out exciting!

          Even such time, one cannot save on science.
          1. Profiler
            Profiler 23 December 2020 08: 13
            -1
            Quote: Civil

            Even such time, one cannot save on science.

            I fully agree and support yes
            But this is not what I wanted to say, but about the impressive performance of the scientific platform.
    4. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 23 December 2020 23: 49
      +2
      Quote: Hunter 2
      We are waiting for a successful completion of construction!

      Alex, hi , if the Admiralty men get down to business, then the word "luck" is excluded immediately, because it implies a certain accident of what happened. And therefore, in this case, we are waiting for the planned completion of construction and regular testing. yes
  2. RealPilot
    RealPilot 23 December 2020 05: 21
    +9
    Great!
    This is a breakthrough project. Compared to life on an ice floe, it's just space good
    And at the same time laboratories, equipment, operating room, helicopter, communications and the Internet ... Everything is grown-up. And it does not freeze into the ice. A polar explorer's dream hi

    Nevertheless, isn't there a need for a series of such military vessels, already with a nuclear power plant? These are radars, air defense systems, a command center and a supply base, a strong point for thousands of square kilometers. Hospital for personnel in the Arctic. Air traffic control center, rescue station ...
    At the same time, the platform moves, which makes it difficult to detect and destroy it, it can be tightened, for example, with a tarpaulin-like covering when it is "fixed" in ice (why not?). Stealth - fashionable and modern laughing

    Interesting body shape! American media wrote that it looks ugly belay
    And the platform even seems beautiful to me love
    Let them envy and warm their belly in their Miami, but in our cold Arctic they have nothing to do!
    1. Far B
      Far B 23 December 2020 05: 44
      +7
      Interesting body shape! American media wrote that it looks ugly
      This is for him to Fridtjof Nansen with his "Fram". He would have explained to them why a vessel imprisoned for drifting in ice captivity needs an egg-shaped / nut-shaped hull.
    2. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 23 December 2020 06: 07
      -2
      Quote: RealPilot
      Nevertheless, isn't there a need for a series of such military vessels, already with a nuclear power plant? These are radars, air defense systems, a command center and a supply base, a strong point for thousands of square kilometers. Hospital for personnel in the Arctic. Air traffic control center, rescue station ...

      Well, maybe the structure will be rolled on it, and then they will start doing it for the MO
    3. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 23 December 2020 06: 09
      -1
      Quote: RealPilot
      American media wrote that it looks ugly

      Well, the platform is not going to compete in beauty contests
      1. Lord
        Lord 23 December 2020 06: 50
        +8
        Straight Zumvolt handsome
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 23 December 2020 07: 06
          -2
          Quote: Vlastor
          Straight Zumvolt handsome

          Maybe "Zamvolt"?)
          1. Profiler
            Profiler 23 December 2020 08: 05
            +3
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Maybe "Zamvolt"?)

            What's the difference ! Zumvolt-Zamvolt ...
            The main thing is that our station will work, and their miracle, if I may say so - the ship, is doomed to stand at the wall.
    4. Land defence
      Land defence 23 December 2020 07: 07
      +18
      Quote: RealPilot
      American media wrote that it looks ugly

      Let them look at the Norwegian Maryata ... lol
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 23 December 2020 23: 52
        +1
        Quote: Kara
        They will see Maryata ...

        By the way, they have a chance to meet when our platform goes to the duty station. yes
  3. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 23 December 2020 05: 29
    0
    Such a scientific station must be protected from the prying eyes of the Western special services; too much valuable information will accumulate there in one place. what
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 23 December 2020 05: 38
      +6
      [quote = Lech from Android.] [/ quote] Roshydromet has something to hide? what but in general it is good that scientists have done something, no one has such a thing, it certainly "has no analogues."
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 23 December 2020 06: 03
        +5
        There is something to hide from our partners about mineral reserves and about many other things for which the intelligence services of other states pay good money. The results of scientific research cost a lot of money and it is not worth giving them to our sworn partners for beautiful eyes.
      2. NDR-791
        NDR-791 23 December 2020 06: 09
        +4
        Does Roshydromet have something to hide?
        There must be something to hide. Weather and climate information is the same as military information. Under the union, even the routes of migratory birds were studied by a special service and were state secret
      3. Hagen
        Hagen 23 December 2020 06: 59
        +7
        Quote: Aerodrome
        but in general it is good that they did something for scientists, no one has this

        Those who lived in a tent in winter conditions will appreciate the created comfort and the increased efficiency in work in due measure.
    2. Hagen
      Hagen 23 December 2020 06: 57
      +1
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Such a scientific station must be protected from the prying eyes of the Western special services; too much valuable information will accumulate there in one place.

      As already announced, it is planned to attract foreign researchers. Obviously not for nothing.
  4. Van 16
    Van 16 23 December 2020 07: 23
    +3
    Very good, it will be very interesting to see. I just didn’t understand why they would give it to Roshydromet, if I’m not mistaken, the Institute for the Arctic and Antarctic (AARI) was previously engaged in such things.
    1. Land defence
      Land defence 23 December 2020 08: 19
      +13
      Quote: Van 16
      I just didn’t understand why they would give it to Roshydromet, if I’m not mistaken, the Institute for the Arctic and Antarctic (AARI) was previously engaged in such things.

      To make the "friends" from the CIA go crazy
    2. Boris55
      Boris55 23 December 2020 09: 01
      +1
      Quote: Van 16
      I just didn’t understand why they would give it to Roshydromet, if I’m not mistaken, the Institute for the Arctic and Antarctic (AARI) was previously engaged in such things.

      Say thank you for not Shoigu laughing
    3. Yura
      Yura 23 December 2020 09: 47
      +2
      Quote: Van 16
      I just didn't understand why they would give it to Roshydromet

      He is simply the customer of the platform, respectively, and his ship.
  5. Undecim
    Undecim 23 December 2020 11: 35
    +7
    Quote: Aerodrome
    , no one has this, it certainly "has no analogues."


    Research icebreaker for polar and marine research of the Alfred Wegener Institute, Germany. Displacement - 17 tons. Built in 300. The last drift across the North Pole is from October 1982 to October 2019.
    1. Zufei
      Zufei 23 December 2020 12: 20
      +4
      You can't destroy children's dreams like that laughing
    2. datura23
      datura23 23 December 2020 12: 34
      0
      so he doesn't look like a testicle
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 23 December 2020 12: 55
        +3
        It has classic icebreaker lines. After all, he also gets to Antarctica on his own, not only in the ice drifts.

        At the exit, the project Polarstern II.
  6. Peaceful SEO
    Peaceful SEO 23 December 2020 14: 34
    +2
    A gorgeous thing. Another atomic reactor can be inserted into it and in the case of a power supply unit it will be possible to wait out the whole nix somewhere in the area of ​​the North Pole
  7. Brylevsky
    Brylevsky 23 December 2020 16: 31
    +2
    To me personally, this "scientific platform" (10 thousand tons of displacement, yeah, what would have got more test tubes and beakers) is more like ... Noah's "ark" for elected... And then everything falls into place: the declared autonomy of six months becomes clear and the displacement is clearly excessive for a scientific laboratory ... And even the proposed location becomes quite understandable and logical: well, who the heck will look for it in the ice fields of the Arctic Ocean? Moreover, it is self-propelled and, if necessary, can move to any point of the world ocean, - the fuel supply allows it ... and there the air is clean, and nothing falls from the sky ... again, the "beloved" people under the palace windows with a standing ovation will not hide ... Why? Conveniently! "You will be put on a boat, thrown into the sea, and - adieu!" I'm afraid only "adyu" they all of us will be told ... As in that movie: "Chao, Pinocchio!". I would like to be wrong. I would like to believe in good, reasonable, eternal; that this platform, weighing 10 thousand tons, was built only for the sake of scientists determining the depth of the underwater sound channel, measuring the water temperature at different depths and feeding the fish from their hands ... but I don't believe it. I don't believe anymore!
  8. tarakan
    tarakan 24 December 2020 00: 06
    0
    Quote: Lipchanin
    Quote: Coward
    e to prevent crushing of the ship's hull and for a drifting platform

    Let the icebreaker not drift !!!
    For a drifting station, other contours so that the ship squeezed out ice
    Icebreaker crushes ice.
    There is a difference?

    Do not argue with the "polar explorers" to them and the ship floats laughing
  9. lazy
    lazy 25 December 2020 16: 12
    0
    noah's ark for apocalypse
  10. ROSS_51
    ROSS_51 16 March 2021 21: 11
    0
    The main thing is to get to the ice on this egg. Half of the crew will lie down.))