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World War II: who really was Hitler's quartermaster

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Until the last minute



The Soviet Union in the pre-war years, of course, did not have a market economy, however, it had to trade with the West, including Hitler's Germany, according to the laws of the market. For the growing industry and the rise of collective farms, foreign currency was needed. In addition, allied relations with the same USA and Great Britain became a reality only on June 22, 1941, if not later.

It was never a secret to anyone that raw material supplies from the USSR to the Third Reich continued until the very end. According to the principle - "for everything paid for." The old rival and eternal opponent of Stalin, Trotsky, regularly called the leader of the peoples "Hitler's quartermaster", and this began even before World War II, when Spain was burning in the Civil War.

Today, the Western media, which were immediately supported by the Russian expert community, who consider themselves elite, again recalled the Soviet Union and the war with Finland, and the "occupation" of the Baltic states, and the liberation campaign in Eastern Poland with its Ukrainian and Belarusian populations.

Forgetting that in this way, among other things, purely pragmatic tasks were solved that allowed the USSR to withstand the difficult year of 1941. We will not dwell here in detail on how attractive collectivization turned out to be for the local laborers.

But it is by no means accidental that in the new territories of the USSR, mobilization was almost better than, for example, in Siberia and the Far East. And the partisan movement in the "Far West" of the Union also grew over the years of the German occupation by no means under the influence of communist propaganda.

Third party interest


However, nothing and no one in the era of complete freedom of speech does not interfere with the presentation of the no longer existing USSR simply absurd accusations. It can be argued, for example, that it was the Soviet supplies of various raw materials to Germany that became almost the main economic support for the Nazi aggression (Gozman: Losses of the USSR in the war cannot justify Stalin’s pre-war cooperation with Hitler).

If you look at the topic from a slightly different angle, it becomes obvious that there is an attempt to shift the problem from a sore head to a healthy one. And "cover up" the very close and quite productive for both sides long-term economic interaction of the same Germany with the Western allies of the USSR in the anti-Hitler coalition.

Let's take a look at the official reports on foreign trade. Of course, in the German ones, since in American and English documents the topic is blurred to the point of complete confusion. This can be done by the very fact of participation in most transactions and contracts of companies whose true owners are the beneficiaries are hidden so deeply that it is simply impossible to figure it out.

So, according to the data of the German foreign trade yearbooks of 1940-1944, in the total value of Germany's foreign trade, both interstate and commercial, the share of export-import with Great Britain, the USA and their colonies exceeded 20%. Note that this statistic does not include the British dominions, that is, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

In turn, detailed foreign trade statistics of Spain, Portugal, Turkey, Ireland and Sweden show that at least 60% of the indicated trade links (in value) were carried out as re-export through these countries.

The answer to Chamberlain


According to many sources (for example, Frank McDonough, "Neville Chamberlain, appeasement, and the British road to war", Manchester University Press, 1998), shortly after the Munich Agreement, the Chamberlain government increased pressure on English firms in order to "force them to search more intensively. economic cooperation with German industrialists ”.

In early November 1938, the Department of Commerce recommended that the Federation of British Industry (FBI) hold a joint conference with the German Imperial Industrial Group (RI) to set the stage for a new trade agreement.

The German side "tried to achieve a reduction in tariffs, but the British said that they are" interested in negotiations only to eliminate competition in the markets of third countries and to create cartels. " These consultations began in December 1938.

The same British federation facilitated the cartel agreement between the German Rhine-Westphalian Coal Syndicate and the Mining Association of Great Britain "On the delimitation of spheres of interest and uniform prices for coal in the markets of third countries", signed on January 28, 1939 in Wuppertal.

The agreement was followed by several meetings, including in the Netherlands, Luxembourg and Ireland, representatives of the British government and business with German partners, “where the prospects for economic cooperation were discussed.

World War II: who really was Hitler's quartermaster

Premier Neville Chamberlain - he "brought peace to the British" that turned into World War II

The positive statements of the German side led Chamberlain to assume that "the policy of appeasement is bearing fruit." It was on March 15, 1939, the day when Germany completed the liquidation of Czechoslovakia, that a conference between the FBI and RI delegations began in Dusseldorf.

Already in the morning session, there was noticeable progress on most issues when Guy Lockok, the director of the FBI, received a phone call from London. A spokesman for the Ministry of Trade told him that "German troops entered Prague, but it was decided that political difficulties should not interfere with an economic agreement and negotiations should continue."

Cartel ... and the Swiss approach


Already on March 16, the same delegations signed a cartel agreement. The document proclaimed "the unconditional need to develop active and mutually beneficial export trade", the elimination of "unhealthy competition", government support for this cooperation, as well as "the expediency of reducing tariff barriers in mutual trade and third markets", the exchange of economic information.

Moreover: the document provided for the opening of permanent credit lines for German industry. In a broader context, the parties intended to carry out no less than a redistribution of the world market, taking into account mutual interests (for the text of the agreement, see http://hrono.ru/dokum/193_dok/19390315brit.html). Even the British Embassy in Berlin expressed concern that "the economic pacification of Germany contributes to its armament and aggressiveness."

The British Trade Attaché in Berlin, R. Magowan, back in December 1938, presented a memorandum in which he proposed to Whitehall “to put an end to the situation when we ourselves are strengthening German weapons and territorial claims” (Public Record Office, FO, 371/21648, “Memorandum by Magowan ", 6. XII. 1938). Magowan was soon dismissed.

Cooperation was also active with the participation of neutral Switzerland. So, the notorious Hjalmar Schacht was a co-organizer in 1930 of the Bank for International Settlements in Basel with the participation of the central banks of Germany, Belgium, Great Britain, France and Italy, as well as with the participation of a pool of 4 American banks headed by the JP Morgan banking house.

When in February 1939 it became clear that Germany was about to absorb what was left of Czechoslovakia, her gold reserves were ordered from London to be exported to England through the said bank. But the German co-directors of the bank demanded to cancel this operation, and through the same bank in April 1940 the Reich received the Czechoslovak gold (Walther Hofer, Herbert R. Reginbogin, "Hitler, der Westen und die Schweiz", Zürich, 2001).

Another truth


There are also very numerous, but small-circulation foreign studies of diversified American-Nazi economic ties. Here are just a few examples of such relationships given in the book “Trading with the Enemy. Exposing the Nazi-American Money Conspiracy ".


In 1942, Colonel Sostenes Ben, head of the multinational American telephone corporation ITT, left New York for Madrid and from there to Bern to help the Nazis improve the communications systems and guided aerial bombs that were savagely destroying London.

Ball bearings, which until mid-1943, inclusive, were lacking in the US and Canadian enterprises that produced military equipment, were sent to Latin American customers associated with the Nazis.

Moreover, this was done with the consent of the Office of War Production of the United States: in the leadership of this department there were business partners of Goering's own relatives who lived in Philadelphia.

Washington turned a blind eye to such actions, so no investigations happened. And, for example, the German military ships, which constantly cruised in 1937-1943. in the area of ​​the Spanish Canary Islands, regularly refueled with fuel oil and diesel fuel on the island of Tenerife.

These were the oil products of the American Standard Oil, which owned the local oil refinery until the early 1950s. Oil products were supplied by the same company from Tenerife, as well as from the South Caribbean and to the port of Funchal, on the neighboring Portuguese island of Madeira (northwest of Tenerife), where the German Navy was also refueled in those years.

None of the Standard Oil tankers operating in the Canary and Madeira regions - these were tankers of the subsidiary Panama Oil - were torpedoed by the German Navy. Suffice it to say that even in 1944 Germany received over 40 thousand tons of oil and petroleum products by re-export through Francoist Spain every month. And over 60% of them were supplied by US companies.
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  1. Crowe
    Crowe 27 December 2020 04: 28
    +24
    Washington turned a blind eye to such actions

    Still ... Only business, nothing personal. To whom the war, to whom the mother is dear.
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 27 December 2020 08: 28
      +7
      Quote: Crowe
      Business only

      And this is generally a direct betrayal of everything and everyone:
      Czechoslovakia, its gold reserves were ordered from London to be exported to England through the said bank. But the German co-directors of the bank demanded to cancel this operation, and through the same bank in April 1940 the Reich received Czechoslovak gold


      As far as I remember, the famous air-cooled Fokker engine "stood" on American bearings.

      Interestingly, what did the currency in the collective farms go for, as the authors mentioned?

      The article is a plus, but it is somewhat "cut off", unsaid, in my opinion ...
  2. Hunter 2
    Hunter 2 27 December 2020 05: 30
    +9
    Why not remember ...
    It's true, but it's not the whole truth. Capital is afraid of lack of profit or too little profit, as nature is afraid of emptiness. But once there is sufficient profit, capital becomes bold. Provide 10 percent, and capital agrees to any use, at 20 percent it becomes animated, at 50 percent it is positively ready to break its head, at 100 percent it tramples on all human laws, at 300 percent there is no crime that it would not risk, even on pain of the gallows.
    When some shed blood, others made money negative
    1. Fat
      Fat 27 December 2020 11: 14
      +6
      It was worth quoting further. If noise and abuse bring profit, capital will contribute to both.
    2. aleks neym_2
      aleks neym_2 27 December 2020 14: 05
      +3
      Political Economy - FIVE! Karl Marx "Capital"
      1. Fat
        Fat 27 December 2020 15: 52
        +5
        Quote: aleks neym_2
        Political Economy - FIVE! Karl Marx "Capital"

        Karl Marx refers to TJ Dunning, op. cit., pp. 35, 36.
        Thomas Joseph Dunning (January 12, 1799 - December 23, 1873) - British trade unionist and publicist.
  3. Cherry Nine
    Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 05: 41
    +15
    At first I thought that the great historian Samsonov was again noted. But, no, there were other specialists.

    Wow, we remembered "Trade with the Enemy" by the Canadian science fiction writer Highham, it was long gone.
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 December 2020 11: 25
      +6
      Quote: Cherry Nine
      that the great historian Samsonov noted again

      ))
      yes, such visits are usually characteristic of a collective of mitrofanushki under the general nickname "Samsonov", I agree with you)
      Quote: Cherry Nine
      Wow, we remembered "Trade with the Enemy" by the Canadian science fiction writer Highham, it was long gone.

      In general, chewing Hayem's pulp is considered bad manners in serious publications and a kind of marker of historical dementia. It would be useful for local adepts-highologists to learn more about the biography of this cunning dude. The journalist who threw in a strawberry, such as Bessie Simpson, studied secret cekcy techniques in brothels in Beijing (!), Is certainly trustworthy wherever there is. laughing Scandals, intrigues, investigations (c)
      The guy lies as he breathes - there is not a single trustworthy reference in his "monograph", but it is obvious that the adherents do not need this.
      1. Cherry Nine
        Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 12: 19
        +4
        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        considered in serious publications

        You are on the resource where I.V. Stalin is the leader-priest of the Russ.
    2. your1970
      your1970 6 January 2021 09: 20
      0
      It is quite enough that some of the Swiss watch companies supplied watches to the Reich, some to England, and some to the Reich and England.
      Neutrality, why is there ...
      1. Cherry Nine
        Cherry Nine 6 January 2021 12: 20
        0
        Quote: your1970
        Neutrality, why is there ...

        Yes, this is neutrality. Any doubts?
        1. your1970
          your1970 6 January 2021 20: 11
          0
          Quote: Cherry Nine
          Quote: your1970
          Neutrality, why is there ...

          Yes, this is neutrality. Any doubts?

          Not that you, there is no doubt ... I sell to whom I want ...

          It's a pity that Hitler was afraid to slam these neutrals
          1. Cherry Nine
            Cherry Nine 6 January 2021 21: 00
            0
            Quote: your1970
            It's a pity that Hitler was just afraid

            It's always fun to meet someone who regrets that Hitler didn't kill enough people.

            He had such ideas, google Tannenbaum. However, the Swiss convinced the WFGN that some kind of garbage would turn out. As with Finland, Comrade. Stalin.
            1. your1970
              your1970 7 January 2021 00: 09
              0
              Quote: Cherry Nine
              It's always fun to meet someone who regrets that Hitler didn't kill enough people.

              I feel sorry for my own, who died more because the neutrals drove military goods to the Reich. And yes, I want justice ... There would be no supply of ore from Scandinavia, you see, there would be no WWII, it would be limited to France alone ...

              Z. Y. You understood correctly - I don't feel sorry for Europe at all ... As they do us ...
  4. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 27 December 2020 05: 54
    +15
    The explosive growth in the production of weapons from Germany began after the capture of Czechoslovakia with its military factories and industrial areas.
    Hitler was able to produce almost any weapon for the war ... the fault of Chamberlain, the French and Polish governments is evident here.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 27 December 2020 06: 11
      +15
      So after all, in Germany itself, industry was put on a "war footing" only at the end of the war, if I am not mistaken, of course.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 27 December 2020 06: 27
        +6
        So after all, in Germany itself, industry was put on a "war footing" only at the end of the war
        .
        So I wonder why Hitler got involved in a WWII adventure without the ability to wage a protracted war on two fronts ... the Germans were strained without the resources necessary for such a war. what
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 27 December 2020 14: 56
          +5
          And Aloizievich was not going to fight on two fronts .. He was seriously convinced that after the inevitable defeat of the Red Army in the border battle, the USSR would surrender and he would get everything he wanted. What his confidence was based on is a topic for a long conversation, but one thing is clear - the existence of Comrade Stalin in the world at the time of the surrender was not foreseen.

          But it turned out differently - Stalin remained alive and at the helm, and the Union under his leadership continued to resist .. And how .. It was then that Hitler combed the pumpkin, because his plans - such a jamb was certainly not provided. And ahead, the epic ZHEPPA for the Third Reich began to slowly but surely emerge.
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 December 2020 18: 08
            +2
            Quote: paul3390
            the existence of Comrade Stalin in the world at the time of the surrender was not foreseen.

            and what should have happened to Comrade Stalin?
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 27 December 2020 18: 11
              -1
              Judging by the events of the beginning of the war, it should not have become ...
              1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 December 2020 18: 29
                +4
                Quote: paul3390
                Judging by the events of the beginning of the war, it should not have become ...

                specifically - what? Epileptic seizure, yellow fever, conspiracy of generals, poisoned by wazisubani?
          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 28 December 2020 10: 49
            +2
            Quote: paul3390
            And Aloizievich was not going to fight on two fronts .. He was seriously convinced that after the inevitable defeat of the Red Army in the border battle, the USSR would surrender and he would get everything he wanted. What his confidence was based on is a topic for a long conversation, but one thing is clear - the existence of Comrade Stalin in the world at the time of the surrender was not foreseen.

            His confidence was based on the fact that the forces of the border districts were considered the main cadre of the Red Army. After they were surrounded and defeated, the Pagzerwaffe had to move practically in a vacuum, occasionally meeting with divisions of the inner districts or garrisons of cities thrown into battle from the wheels. These formations were supposed to be either quickly smashed, or (in case of failure) fettered with part of the forces and "transferred" to the infantry (as was the case in Mogilev) or bypass, leaving again to the infantry. With such introductions, the war really should have ended quickly.
    2. mat-vey
      mat-vey 27 December 2020 08: 12
      +3
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      The explosive growth in the production of weapons from Germany began after the capture of Czechoslovakia with its military factories and industrial areas.
      Hitler was able to produce almost any weapon for the war ... the fault of Chamberlain, the French and Polish governments is evident here.

      And they constantly impose all kinds of sanctions and "golden blockades" against the USSR - narrowing the circle of trade partners for the USSR.
    3. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 12: 21
      +4
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Chamberlain wine, French and Polish governments

      The Polish government was also dragged along.

      The capture of the Czech Republic by Hitler was carried out not in execution, but in violation of the Munich Agreement. Actually, for this reason, a year later, no one began to talk to him about the Danzig problem. Nobody except Comrade. Molotov.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 27 December 2020 16: 01
        -2
        The Polish government was also dragged along.

        But what about ... the Poles also took a piece of Czechoslovakia in violation of the Munich Treaty looking at Hitler ... the hyenas of Europe.
        Since the Munich agreement of these countries untied Hitler's hands for further expansion to the east, and Molotov had no choice but to try to negotiate with Hitler ... as we can see, this deal was also unsuccessful.
        1. Cherry Nine
          Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 16: 29
          0
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          a piece of Czechoslovakia in violation of the Munich Treaty was taken

          Poland signed the Munich Treaty?
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          hands for further expansion to the east and Molotov had no choice but to try to negotiate with Hitler

          Did the occupation of Bohemia by the Reich somehow bring it closer to the USSR? And in response to this, Molotov proposed to divide all the countries bordering with the Reich? To hinder the expansion of the Reich to the East? This is the move!
        2. zenion
          zenion 27 December 2020 21: 17
          +2
          The point is that Poland wanted to attack the USSR, necessarily together with Germany. Hitler was not against it, but the Poles hit such a price and wanted to grab Ukraine, which was supposed to be German. We can say that because of Ukraine, because of its land, factories, coal, a war broke out. And here the Poles kick and even threaten Germany. In addition, some anti-Soviet wrote that the USSR supplied Germany with one-ton bombs to bomb England. It is surprising that England did not know about this and did not mention it.
  5. tlauicol
    tlauicol 27 December 2020 06: 51
    +19
    tankers of Standard Oil and its subsidiaries sunk by the Germans (including before the US declaration of war) are known by name. Everyone except the author.
    Kriegsmarine ships refueled in the Canary Islands and Madeira? Fueled by Americans at sea? Which for example? request
    1. Fat
      Fat 27 December 2020 11: 44
      -1
      Here, in general, the correct point of view of the authors can be traced. Standard oil is a Rockefeller company. And the mentioned house of J. P. Morgan "at hand" of the Rothschilds and Royal Dach Shell is the same.
      Competitive fight. They are imperialists.
      1. Cherry Nine
        Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 12: 25
        +7
        Quote: Thick
        Standard oil is a Rockefeller company.

        Which one, John? The deceased since 1937?
        Quote: Thick
        J.P. Morgan mentioned house

        John Pierpont, 30 years old, was still dug up for some reason.
        1. Fat
          Fat 27 December 2020 13: 35
          +5
          I can also "discover" Maer Amschel, who is listed as the founder dynasties Rothschilds, he died at all 1812 laughing But he had 7 sons and a huge capital. "Today the family strives to make its presence in the world invisible and inaudible" (c) Frederick Morton.
          "Standard oil" in 1911 did not disappear anywhere, the company changed its name, our SO - Esso. By a court decision, Rockefeller had to get rid of 37 (!) Subsidiaries. This led to the formation of 34 "separate" companies, the share price nearly tripled, and Rockefeller's wealth only increased. The Rockefellers' activities in Russia were curtailed in 1911 in exchange for shares in R.D. Shell
          The Rothschilds and Rockefellers vied openly with each other, right down to propaganda and price wars. These are not individuals, these are clans
          PS J.P. Morgan - Banking House
          1. Cherry Nine
            Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 13: 36
            +1
            Quote: Thick
            The Rothschilds and Rockefellers vied openly with each other, right down to propaganda and price wars. These are not individuals, these are clans

            And?

            Is there something on the topic?
            1. Fat
              Fat 27 December 2020 13: 51
              0
              And what is the topic? Who drowned whom and how much? Or who supplied the means and opportunities for "drang nah ... (osten, veten)" to whom? The authors almost directly pointed to the Rothschild clan as Hitler's "intendant".
              So there is something to say on the topic?
              1. Cherry Nine
                Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 13: 54
                +5
                Quote: Thick
                The authors almost directly pointed to the Rothschild clan as Hitler's "intendant".

                Really? Have you read the text under discussion, no?
                1. Fat
                  Fat 27 December 2020 14: 40
                  +2
                  Of course and attentively. Therefore, I considered it possible to speak. Andrey (Olgovich) rightly noted.
                  The article is a plus, but it is somewhat "cut off", unsaid,

                  I thought so too
      2. tlauicol
        tlauicol 27 December 2020 12: 50
        +4

        the damned Rockefellers refuel the Rothschild boat to sink the Morgan tankers in the roadstead of Funchal am wassat
        1. Fat
          Fat 27 December 2020 14: 00
          0
          Rothschilds, sounds almost the same, easy to confuse tongue laughing
        2. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 27 December 2020 16: 03
          -4
          the damned Rockefellers refuel the Rothschild boat to sink the Morgan tankers in the roadstead of Funchal

          This is how the plot of the story turned inside out ... amazing. hi
          1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 December 2020 18: 38
            +5
            and which one exactly
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            the plot of the story is turned inside out
            ?
            A German supply vessel disguised as an American is fueling the U-105 in the South Atlantic - and what's the "inside out" here?
        3. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 December 2020 18: 26
          +9
          Quote: Tlauicol

          the damned Rockefellers refuel the Rothschild boat to sink the Morgan tankers in the roadstead of Funchal am wassat

          In this photo - the German "supply" "Nordmark", disguised as the American ship "Prairie", pumps diesel fuel to the U-105 in the South Atlantic. May 1941 There, U-107 is waiting in line for refueling. In addition to Prairie, Nordmark also disguised itself as Dixie (also an American).
          On this score, there is relevant research (D. Jones "Under three flags. History of armed supply vessels of the German fleet")
          1. tlauicol
            tlauicol 28 December 2020 06: 31
            +4
            Quite right. But who cares? That's another matter about the conspiracy of the Jews))
            1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 December 2020 09: 05
              +3
              Quote: Tlauicol
              Quite right. But who cares?

              Well, yes, "lekham from android" is not interesting, I agree.
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 December 2020 12: 19
      +5
      Quote: Tlauicol
      tankers of Standard Oil and its subsidiaries sunk by the Germans (including before the US declaration of war) are known by name. Everyone except the author.

      There's a sly clause there
      operating in the Canary and Madeira regions

      Hayem, with a blue eye, draws from this an unambiguous conclusion about the collusion and feeds it to the gullible.
      However, he does not provide a list of Panama Transport Co vessels that happily and by conspiracy escaped torpedoes in the area. It's simple - tankers sailed from Aruba and Curacao to Freetown and Cape Town, and the fakes that Haym makes with super-duper secret encryptions from American intelligence agents are a rather clumsy fake.
      As for "before the declaration of war" - yes, the debut took place on December 21, 1940, when the Stockhausen (U-65) squadron sank Charles Pratt abeam Freetown with one torpedo.
    3. zenion
      zenion 27 December 2020 21: 27
      -4
      tlahuikol (Ivan). You are reminiscent of passing exams for one Jew to go to college. All questions were answered. I solved all the examples. But you don't need it. Another question is how many civilians died during the occupation of a part of the USSR. Jewish guy 20 million. I’ll ask you by name, please. You are throwing it off as if it was a doctoral dissertation, and the author missed some numbers. If you are very interested in this, ask a question in the US, they should have the exact names and tonnage. How many were on the ships and the number of crew. What families did each crew member have and of course the salary. How much they swam before and could swim after that. You really need this, as the woman who came to the doctor asking what he would advise her so as not to get pregnant. The doctor says - I will prescribe pills for you and you will take them. Excuse me, doctor, and when to take them, before, or after? Doctor instead. Ask your doctor for pills!
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol 28 December 2020 06: 34
        +2
        I just wrote that the author is lying. Dot. And neither he nor anyone else has any answers to this question.
  6. Avior
    Avior 27 December 2020 08: 06
    +25
    The fact that the book that the authors cite is a fantasy without any references to sources and the fact that Standard Oil was disbanded back in 1911 is known to everyone except the authors for a long time, it seems
    The fact that half of the 120 American tankers sunk during the war belonged to companies from the Standard Oil group is also no secret.
    This is a list of tankers Standard Oil New Jersey and its Panama branch that were sunk by the Germans in the first six months.
    1. "Charles Pratt" (8,982 brt) October 20, 1939
    Owner: Panama Transport Co (Standard Oil Co), Panama
    Route: Aruba (5 Dec) - Freetown
    load: 96.069 barrels of fuel oil
    Sunk U65 21.12.40/2/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    2. "IC White" (7,052 brt) 1940
    Owner: Panama Transport Co (Standard Oil Co), Panama
    Route: Curaçao - Capetown
    load: 62.390 barrels of crude oil
    Sunk U66 27.09.41/3/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    3. "Allan Jackson" (6,635 brt)
    Owner: Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
    Route: Cartagena, Colombia - New York
    Cargo: 72.870 barrels of crude oil
    Sunk U66 18.01.42/22/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    4. "WL Steed" (6,182 brt)
    Owner: Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
    Route: Cartagena, Columbia (23 Jan) - Key West, Florida - New York
    Cargo: 65.936 barrels of crude oil
    Sunk U103 02.02.42/34/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    5. "RP Resor" (7,451 Brt)
    Owner: Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
    Route: Baytown, Texas - Fall River, Massachusetts
    Cargo: 105,025 barrels of Bunker C fuel oil
    Sunk U578 27.02.42/47/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    6. "Hanseat" (8,241 brt) 1935
    Owner: Panama Transport Co (Standard Oil Co), Panama
    Route: New York - Caripito, Venezuela
    Cargo: Ballast
    Sunk U126 09.03.42/XNUMX/XNUMX - no dead

    7. "Penelope" (8,436 brt) 1935
    Owner: Panama Transport Co (Standard Oil Co), Panama
    Route: Caripito - Halifax
    Cargo: Crude oil
    Sunk U67 14.03.42/2/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    8. "EM Clark" (9,647 brt)
    Owner: Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
    Route: Baton Rouge, Louisiana - New York
    Cargo: 118.725 barrels of heating oil
    Sunk U124 18.03.42/1/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    9. "Esso Boston" (7,699 Brt)
    Owner: Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
    Route: Güiria, Venezuela - Halifax
    Cargo: 105.400 barrels of crude oil
    Sunk U130 12.04.42/XNUMX/XNUMX - no dead

    10. "Heinrich von Riedemann" (11,020 grt)
    Owner: Panama Transport Co (Standard Oil Co), Panama
    Route: La Guira, Venezuela (14 Apr) - Port of Spain (16 Apr) - Aruba
    Cargo: 127.041 barrels of crude oil
    Sunk U66 17.04.42/XNUMX/XNUMX - no dead

    11. "Harry G. Seidel" (10,354 brt) 1935
    Owner: Panama Transport Co (Standard Oil Co), Panama
    Route: Aruba (27 Apr) - Caripito, Venezuela
    Cargo: Ballast
    Sunk U66 29.04.42/2/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    12. "Esso Houston" (7,699 Brt)
    Owner: Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
    Route: Aruba (9 May) - Montevideo, Uruguay
    Cargo: 81.701 barrels of fuel oil
    Sunk U162 13.05.42/1/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    13. "MF Elliott" (6,940 grt)
    Owner: Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
    Route: Newport News (19 May) - Trinidad - Caripito, Venezuela
    Cargo: Ballast
    Sunk U502 03.06.42/13/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    14. "LJ Drake" (6,693 brt)
    Owner: Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
    Route: Aruba (4 Jun) - San Juan, Puerto Rico
    Cargo: 72,961 barrels of gasoline
    Sunk U68 05.06.42/41/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    15. "COStillman" (13,006 brt)
    Owner: Panama Transport Co (Standard Oil Co), Panama
    Route: Aruba - New York
    Cargo: 125.812 barrels fuel oil and 39 tons dry cargo
    Sunk U68 06.06.42/3/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    16. "Franklin K. Lane" (6,589 brt)
    Owner: Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
    Route: Caripito, Venezuela - Trinidad (7 Jun) - Aruba
    Cargo: 73,000 barrels of crude oil
    Sunk U502 09.06.42/4/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    17. "EJ Sadler" (9,639 brt)
    Owner: Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
    Route: San Nicolas, Aruba (21 Jun) - New York
    Cargo: 149.003 barrels of kerosene
    Sunk U159 22.06.42/XNUMX/XNUMX - no dead

    18. "William Rockefeller" (14,054 brt)
    Owner: Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
    Route: Aruba (19 Jun) - New York
    Cargo: 135.000 barrels of fuel oil
    Sunk U701 28.06.42/XNUMX/XNUMX - no dead

    19. "Benjamin Brewster" (5,950 Brt)
    Owner: Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
    Route: Baytown, Texas (8 Jul) - Tampa, Florida
    Cargo: 70578 barrels of aviation gas and lubricating oil
    Sunk U67 10.07.42/25/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    20. "RW Gallagher" (7,989 brt)
    Owner: Standard Oil Co of New Jersey, New York
    Route: Baytown, Texas (10 Jul) - Port Everglades, Florida
    Cargo: 80.855 barrels of Bunker C fuel oil
    Sunk U67 13.07.42/10/XNUMX - XNUMX dead

    21. "Beaconlight" (6,926 brt)
    Owner: Panama Transport Co (Standard Oil Co), Panama
    Route: Capetown (21 Jun) - Trinidad
    Cargo: Ballast
    Sunk U160 16.07.42/1/XNUMX - XNUMX dead
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 27 December 2020 08: 42
      +9
      What a clumsy attempt to justify the mistakes of foreign policy before the start of the war. With a minimum evidence base.
      It is very similar to the excuse in elementary school - "... and Sidorov also copied"!
  7. Mik13
    Mik13 27 December 2020 10: 29
    +13
    Here again someone has read Hayem ...
    Dear Authors! Referring to Hiam is like referring to Rezun.

    This despite the fact that his statements are easily refuted by Google or Yandex in 5 minutes.

    None of the Standard Oil tankers operating in the Canary and Madeira regions - these were tankers of the subsidiary Panama Oil - were torpedoed by the German Navy.

    Yes, hack to death there already somewhere: There was no "Standard Oil" after 1911. I understand that when Hiam was writing his book back in 1983, there was no Wikipedia. But now she is! It was forgiven for an American journalist of the 1980s not to know historical facts and write nonsense - but 40 years later, the basic facts are easily and naturally verified.

    By the way, at the same time I recommend to use Google and find out how the German submariners identified the "forbidden" tankers (this is to understand the degree of absurdity) - and be surprised. The Germans drowned everyone indiscriminately, including neutrals, if anything ...
  8. Fitter65
    Fitter65 27 December 2020 11: 04
    +9
    Quote: Olgovich
    As far as I remember, the famous air-cooled Fokker engine "stood" on American bearings.

    And on what Fokker? If it's not a secret, of course. Just as far as I know at Fokker Dr. I was an Oberursel Ur. II, a 9-cylinder rotary engine. The Fokker D.VII was equipped with a liquid-cooled BMW IIa engine. Fokker D.XXI (Dutch. Fokker D.XXI) is generally an interesting aircraft, for example, the Bristol Mercury VIII engine (1937 hp) was on the 760 modification, the D.XXI-4 modification, 1941. Finnish licensed model. Motor Pratt & Whitney R-1535 Twin Wasp Junior (825 hp) This version of Fokker (Foker) D.XXI, 1938 is also mentioned. Spanish version with the Soviet M-25 engine - quantity and numbers are not known Considering that the M-25 is a licensed version of the American Wright R-1820-F3, then, in principle, yes, American bearings have a place to be ...
    1. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 12: 33
      +12
      As far as I understand, the patient is confusing 3 stories.
      1. That the Allies were kind to the German bearing industry. This is just nonsense, Schweinfurt was bombed without regard for any losses.
      2. That the bearings were supplied to the Reich by the damned capitalists, Swedish damned capitalists. Yes, they did, no one, except for friends of the Soviet regime, has any complaints about this.
      3. That the American ITT Corporation was a major shareholder not of the Dutch Fokker, but directly of Focke-Wulf Flugzeugbau AG. On this basis, some enthusiasts claim that almost half of the Reich fighters were produced by the Americans. It's funny to discuss.
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 27 December 2020 12: 59
        +4
        Quote: Cherry Nine
        As I understand it, the patient is confusing 3 stories

        Well, let's just say it is confusing, but not what you mean. By the way, there is also such a bike
        In the early XNUMXs, lawsuits were initiated by victims of forced labor during World War II against the German division of Ford. The American company "Ford" cold-bloodedly refused the plaintiffs, and in response to the release of incriminating information conducted its own investigation, which "convincingly proved" that during the war, Ford had no influence on its branches in Germany. Nevertheless, it is known that the manager of the German branch of Ford during the war was the same person as before in peacetime.
        Thus, it was actually officially attested that slave labor was indeed used.
        1. Cherry Nine
          Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 13: 10
          +3
          Quote: Fitter65
          Well, let's just say it is confusing, but not what you mean.

          Yes? What is the story about bearings? Previously, I did not come across, although I seem to have seen a lot.
          1. Fitter65
            Fitter65 27 December 2020 13: 42
            +1
            Quote: Cherry Nine
            Yes? What is the story about bearings? Previously, I did not come across, although I seem to have seen a lot.

            Well, like BMW, until the end of the war, they received bearings from the United States through Sweden and Switzerland ...
            1. Cherry Nine
              Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 13: 44
              +4
              Something new. How did American bearings end up in Sweden and Switzerland? And why? Are there few bearings in Sweden?
              1. Fitter65
                Fitter65 27 December 2020 13: 52
                +3
                Quote: Cherry Nine
                Are there few bearings in Sweden?

                Well, at that time in Sweden there was not enough for Germany, probably, and at that time Sweden could not provide everyone with its bearings ... But the facts of deliveries were recorded ...
                1. Cherry Nine
                  Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 13: 53
                  +2
                  Quote: Fitter65
                  .But after all, the facts of deliveries have been recorded ...

                  What other facts? Re-export of American bearings to the Reich?
                  1. Fitter65
                    Fitter65 27 December 2020 15: 51
                    -1
                    Quote: Cherry Nine
                    What other facts? Re-export of American bearings to the Reich?

                    And you have facts confirming the opposite ...
                    1. Cherry Nine
                      Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 16: 31
                      +5
                      Quote: Fitter65
                      you have facts to prove the opposite ...

                      WHAT ?? "Facts to support the absence?" Should I set up a party accounting of American bearings or what?
                2. sidoroff
                  sidoroff 28 December 2020 15: 57
                  +1
                  Why then did the Swedes send SKF bearings and equipment to the British in large quantities? and not only to the British - to the USSR
                  bearings were delivered.
        2. Avior
          Avior 27 December 2020 16: 28
          +5
          Nevertheless, it is known that the manager of the German branch of Ford during the war was the same person as before in peacetime.

          And what of it? Should the campaign be directed from the States?
          At the German Coca-Cola enterprise, the director also remained the same, and continued to work - thanks to him, Fanta appeared.
  9. Jünger
    Jünger 27 December 2020 11: 37
    0
    That is, I understand that England and France, who fought against fascism from the very beginning of the war, are bad. And the USSR, which supplied Germany's products to the last, led the German raiders through its waters, gave bases to German submarines, and derbanized Europe together with the Fuhrer - very good.
    After all, the USSR needed currency, but Western capitalists did not. They ate air.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 27 December 2020 12: 00
      +7
      Quote: Junger
      After all, the USSR needed currency, but Western capitalists did not. They ate air.

      I think that the local "accusers" of Stalin do not want to remember how the United States and Great Britain denied him loans, prohibited the sale of many goods, and if something was sold through Amtorg, then only for currency, which was simply not enough in the USSR. Hitler offered Stalin loans for the purchase of industrial equipment and materials in Germany, and on favorable terms, and the loan was repaid with a natural product in terms of world prices. The leader of the peoples would be a fool if he refused such conditions, which is why the pre-war trade with Germany was extremely beneficial to us. And only amateurs or paid propagandists can speculate on the fact that our trains went to Germany before June 22 - we paid with them for what had already been delivered to us from Germany. So if you look at this impartially, then it immediately becomes obvious that trade with Germany was very profitable for us.
      1. Cherry Nine
        Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 12: 38
        +2
        Quote: ccsr
        trade with Germany was very profitable for us.

        It was beneficial for Sweden. But at the expense of the USSR, there are some doubts in general.
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 27 December 2020 13: 39
          +8
          Quote: Cherry Nine
          It was beneficial for Sweden. But at the expense of the USSR, there are some doubts in general.

          Strangely, one can, but an industrially underdeveloped country that did not survive the First World War, which was plunged into a civil war, they tried to occupy to dismember (well, they ripped off pieces), which needed everything, from shovels to bearings, that is, we cannot trade Roosia (USSR), we it was impossible to buy from them, automobile factories, technologies and others ... Yes, thanks to what was acquired and used by the USSR in those years, Russia is still a state. And another question, why no one, from the word at all, makes claims to Sweden, which supplied the entire war to Nazi Germany, or Spain and other "neutral" countries - we all remember the "captured Swiss watch". We remember that the Czech defense industry was working properly and with high quality, they are now suffering from the USSR ... So why was it possible for them, but for us, who had an official agreement on friendship-trade, was it impossible?
          1. Cherry Nine
            Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 13: 47
            +2
            Quote: Fitter65
            Strange one is possible, but ... Roosia (USSR) cannot be traded

            Why? Everyone is allowed, trade for health. Only then no offense.
            Quote: Fitter65
            still such a question, why no one, from the word, does not at all make claims to Sweden, which supplied Nazi Germany, Spain and other "neutral" countries throughout the war - we all remember "captured Swiss watches" ...

            Because Sweden and Switzerland, this friendship did not go sideways. In contrast to the USSR, just.
      2. Constanty
        Constanty 27 December 2020 16: 15
        +2
        It is strange when, in the USSR, clones of Wright R-1820 Cyclone engines, known as M-25, M-62 or, in fact, M-82, propelling, for example, La-5 aircraft.



        No wonder Stalin made a toast to the engines that helped him win the war.
        similarly with licenses for Vultee or Catalina - yes, for currency, but the USSR traded with the West and received licenses, Soviet specialists (including Polikarpov) studied in the USA ...
        1. ccsr
          ccsr 27 December 2020 17: 38
          +1
          Quote: Constanty
          yes, for currency,

          It is probably difficult for you to understand that we needed loans in the first place - there was not enough of our own funds in the USSR, and the war was already going on in Europe, and it was necessary to urgently re-equip the industry.
          Quote: Constanty
          but the USSR traded with the West and received licenses, Soviet specialists (including Polikarpov) studied in the USA ...
          In the same way, our people studied in Germany - and what follows from this? As for trade, the income from it was not enough to modernize the entire industry, which had to be urgently produced. That is why loans were so much more important to us.
          Any leader would do this - even Brezhnev took loans in Germany to build pipelines to Europe.
    2. Fitter65
      Fitter65 27 December 2020 13: 20
      +7
      Quote: Junger
      That is, I understand that England and France, who fought against fascism from the very beginning of the war, are bad

      So with the Nazis or the Nazis, and fought, whether? They promised Poland allied assistance, helped?
      Quote: Junger
      And the USSR, which ... derbanated Europe together with the Fuhrer, is very good ..
      And what were we doing there with Hitler? Czechoslovakia? There it seems like France and Great Britain forced Czechoslovakia to "surrender" to Germany, well, there are also German lapdogs, sorry allies (treaties (pacts) were signed) Poland, Hungary cut off a shit ... We returned in 1939, and then only after Poland did not become (France and Great Britain helped the ally) what was fixed during the division of the inheritance of the Russian Empire, which Kolya merged in novels, reached the Curzon line, the Baltic states (?), so sorry, Peter bought it. War with Finland ?. So they returned to themselves what was taken from us illegally in 1918-21. So maybe, according to your logic, return Sakhalin and the Kuriles?
      Quote: Junger
      led German raiders through their waters

      In 1940, in fact, the Germans, that is, Nazi Germany, or the Third Reich, if you like, were not our opponents, just as Great Britain and France were not our allies, by the way, on September 1, 1939, Poland did not sign any agreements on friendship and cooperation from the USSR.
      Quote: Junger
      gave bases to German submarines,

      If it's not a secret, I personally have never heard in what area of ​​the USSR was the base of German submarines? I honestly don't know about such a fact ...
      1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
        Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 December 2020 14: 32
        +2
        Quote: Fitter65
        By the way, on September 1, 1939, Poland did not sign any agreements on friendship and cooperation with the USSR.

        "by the way", Polish-Soviet non-aggression pact on July 25, 1932
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 27 December 2020 15: 49
          +9
          Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          "by the way", Polish-Soviet non-aggression pact on July 25, 1932

          Validity period, grounds for termination of the contract.
          On September 23, 1938, the USSR sent a note to Poland, where it stated that any attempt by the latter to occupy part of Czechoslovakia would annul the treaty.
          Well, on the other hand, whether it is right or not right is my Fatherland., This time. If everything that my country has done for its own good is good ... After all, you cannot condemn Israel, which, for the good of its citizens, occupied Palestine, the Gollan Heights, etc., etc. So why should we condemn the USSR. who in 1947 was one of the first to know the state of Israel, so maybe you also reject the Holocaust?
          1. Cherry Nine
            Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 16: 33
            -4
            Quote: Fitter65
            After all, you cannot condemn Israel, which, for the benefit of its citizens, occupied Palestine, the Gollan Heights, etc., etc.

            And someone is not too impudent to compare the Israeli occupation and the Soviet one?
          2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
            Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 December 2020 17: 51
            +2
            Quote: Fitter65
            Validity period, grounds for termination of the contract.
            On September 23, 1938, the USSR sent a note to Poland, where it stated that any attempt by the latter to occupy part of Czechoslovakia would annul the treaty.

            AND? You at least read Wikipedia to the end, if you refer to it:
            However, the Soviet government decided not to terminate the treaty, and on October 31, officially confirmed that it continues to operate. The same was said in a joint statement of November 27, 1938 [2].

            Quote: Fitter65
            Well, on the other hand, whether it is right or not right is my Fatherland., This time.

            This is where you should start, and not weave lace, that there were no contracts, etc.
            Quote: Fitter65
            After all, you cannot condemn Israel, which, for the benefit of its citizens, occupied Palestine, the Gollan Heights, etc., etc., etc.

            Yes, I somehow do not care who the Jews occupied there, you discuss it with them.
            Quote: Fitter65
            So why should we condemn the USSR

            and did not condemn the USSR and did not call anyone to this, I only indicated that on September 1, 1939. between the USSR and Poland there was a valid non-aggression pact, which for some reason is not in your matrix. I did not even touch upon the circumstances of its termination, as you noted. With what fright you put the Jews in this topic and the recognition of the GI - I absolutely do not understand.
            Quote: Fitter65
            so maybe you also reject the holocaust?

            and even if he rejected - what do you care about that?
      2. Jünger
        Jünger 27 December 2020 20: 37
        -3
        Quote: Fitter65
        So with the fascists or with the Nazis,

        For the Soviet - with the Nazis. You yourself do not know what?
        Quote: Fitter65
        They promised Poland allied assistance, helped?

        They fit into the war in general for it. Worldwide. And the USSR - derbanit this very Poland together with Adolf. The violent seizure of someone else's property, whatever. The territory recognized by the USSR itself as Polish.
        Quote: Fitter65
        Baltics (?) So excuse it still Peter bought.

        Which Peter? laughing Since when did Jews and Georgians in the Kremlin remember Peter and historical Russia? smile When were the relics desecrated and compared the monuments to Skobelev and Bagration?
        Maybe Joseph Vissarionovich defended the liturgy since the morning? Did Kaganovich kiss the relics? Leninsky only if ..
        Quote: Fitter65
        In 1940, in general, the Germans, that is, Nazi Germany, or the Third Reich, if you like, were not our opponents,

        Who argues that? No complaints. As did England, America and Sweden when they traded with the Reich. You just do not need to translate the arrows to others when you yourself were doing the same.
        Quote: Fitter65
        If it's not a secret, I personally have never heard in what area of ​​the USSR was the base of German submarines? I honestly don't know about this fact.

        You need to develop your horizons.
        The negotiations on the base were carried out within the framework of the exchange of resources and technology between the USSR and Germany, from the Soviet side subordinate to the People's Commissar for Foreign Trade Mikoyan [1].
        The German submarine U-36 was sent to the supposed base for reconnaissance, but it did not reach the site, since on December 4, 1939 it was sunk by the British submarine HMS Salmon (English) Russian [2]. Another German submarine, U-38, was able to inspect the approaches to the base, despite opposition from Soviet torpedo boats and coast guard vessels. [3]
        In December 1939, German unarmed merchant ships Cordillera, Phenicia and Sachsenwald came to the Zapadnaya Litsa Bay from Murmansk and anchored. [4]

        Yes, I am aware that the base did not work there as a result. But the consent was given by the Soviet side.

        Not a single German warship received supplies from this base [6]. However, on January 20, 1940, the Germans sent the tanker Jan Wellem with fuel supplies from Kiel, which arrived in the bay on February 4 [7]. In April 1940, this tanker left the base and arrived in Narvik to supply fuel to German ships participating in the operation to occupy Norway. After the capture of Norway, the German admiral Erich Raeder sent a telegram of thanks to the commander of the USSR fleet [8].

        See what a strong male friendship? Not like Western capitalists.
      3. zenion
        zenion 28 December 2020 16: 20
        -1
        In Moscow in Pioneer Proceedings there were three bases of submarine sailing boats of Germany.
  10. Artashes
    Artashes 27 December 2020 12: 15
    -1
    The US military destroyed in Germany almost all German statistics of German foreign trade in 1943-45. ALMOST all ... But in the GDR, SOMETHING important was published at the time ...
    Trade also went through the dominion of the South African Union, which "with difficulty" entered the war in September 1939 - and then traded through ex-German Namibia (occupied by the South African Union since 1918), through the Portuguese exclave Cabinda (as part of neighboring Portuguese Angola). Not to mention the participation of some Americans. corporations in the development of equipment for nat. gas chambers.
    It was the "West" that was at the origins of the military power and arrogance of the Reich. Especially, it is not enough to take into account the real Truce of the Axis with the West in the winter-spring of 1940 - in order to facilitate the invasion of the British, French, planned for March-April-40. and Turkish troops in the USSR (plan "Spearhead").
    1. Cherry Nine
      Cherry Nine 27 December 2020 12: 36
      +3
      Quote: Artashes
      Truce of the Axis with the West in the winter-spring of 1940

      good good good
    2. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 December 2020 14: 22
      +5
      Quote: Artashes
      Truce of the Axis with the West in the winter-spring of 1940 - to facilitate the planned March-April-40 invasion of the British, French. and Turkish troops in the USSR (plan "Spearhead").

      a big mess in the minds of crypto historians, nd ...
      Zitskrieg 39-40 years old, it turns out, was truce between the Reich and the Allies ... An interesting twist. That is, the main sacred thesis of the patriots is "The West set Gitlya against the USSR!" replaced by a new trick - "Hitl set the West against the USSR!"?
      And during the zitskrieg, apparently, there was a poker tournament, the loser (or the winner?) Which was obliged to attack the USSR.

      Quote: Artashes
      planned for March-April-40

      Actually, in March, Pike was only in the planning stages. The allies did not have sufficient funds to start and carry out the Pike either in the Levant, or in Egypt, or in Turkey, or in Persia until the outbreak of hostilities in France.

      Quote: Artashes
      invasion by brit., fr. and Turkish troops in the USSR (plan "Spearhead")

      Can you tell us more about the participation of "Turkish troops" in the planned "invasion of the USSR"?
    3. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 December 2020 14: 54
      +7
      Quote: Artashes
      and then traded through ex-German Namibia

      just a cool fact:

      ))
  11. Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk 27 December 2020 12: 24
    +6
    = (Gozman: The losses of the USSR in the war cannot serve as an excuse for Stalin's pre-war cooperation with Hitler). =
    A strange phrase. Does it mean that if there was no cooperation, there would be no losses?
    = It was never a secret for anyone that raw materials supplies from the USSR to the Third Reich continued until the very end. According to the principle - "for everything paid for." =
    Yu.I. Mukhin wrote about this well -
    = A similar thing happened in 1939. Before signing the Non-Aggression Pact with Germany, Stalin conditioned the USSR's consent to this by the necessity of the eventual, that is, preemptive, signing of a German-Soviet agreement on trade and economic cooperation. At the same time, he unambiguously demanded a loan of 200 million marks to the Soviet Union under this agreement. Moreover, the loan was not tied up, so that Soviet trade representatives could buy everything they needed, which they did by purchasing a lot of the latest industrial dual-use equipment, samples of the latest weapons and military equipment of the Wehrmacht, etc., etc. , conditioned the payment under this agreement in such a way that the USSR supplied to Germany mainly waste in the truest sense of the word: down, feathers, fish bladder, cake and iron ore from dumps, because supplies, for example, of ore with a 38% content iron cannot be called otherwise! Ore with such an iron content is not used in ferrous metallurgy, because first it must also be enriched, at least up to 50%! A little later, the Nazis nevertheless realized it. However, Stalin calmly poked them at the text of the agreement, which did not stipulate the iron content in the supplied ore in any way, and then just as calmly explained that the USSR allegedly had no opportunity to supply the enriched ore, since it allegedly did not have processing plants! The Teutons retired, as they say, indulgently. Stalin was Stalin! =
    1. bubalik
      bubalik 27 December 2020 12: 53
      +10
      The USSR supplied Germany mainly with waste in the truest sense of the word: down, feathers
      ,,, horns and hooves in exchange for high-tech equipment.


      1. bubalik
        bubalik 27 December 2020 13: 16
        +10
        ,,, and here is what the USSR received in exchange for horns and hooves. The list is not complete, does not fit within the forum yes




        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 28 December 2020 10: 59
          +2
          Quote: bubalik
          ,,, but what the USSR received in exchange for horns and hooves.

          And here are some particulars from this list:
          ... among those ordered by the Stalingrad Tank Plant as necessary for the production of T-34 machines, there were:
          - screw-cutting “Heydsireich and Garbeck” 13 pcs., “Beringer” 11 pcs., “Dr. Brown” 1 pc .;
          - turning and rotary "Niles" 35 pcs .;
          - turning and multi-cutting “Guishold” 11 pcs .;
          - revolving "Heinemann" 18 pcs .;
          - Dental "Maag" 2 pcs.;
          - gearshakers “Reinecker” 6 pcs., “Lorenz” 3 pcs., “Pfauter” 1 pc.;
          - universal grinding "Schmalz" - 1 pc .;
          - intra-grinding "Wotan" 1 pc .;
          - slot grinding “F. Werner "3 pcs.;
          - grinding “Glisson” 1 pc.
          Against this background, a variety of speculations about "supplying the Stalinist USSR with Hitler aggression" acquire a very special flavor ...
          © Ulanov / Shein
      2. Avior
        Avior 27 December 2020 20: 00
        +5
        Manganese ore, chrome ore, the lists are incomplete ...
  12. sleeve
    sleeve 27 December 2020 13: 12
    +4
    The most interesting thing in this socio-historical phenomenon as a "state of the USA" is that if it is finally taken to the wall, then this is not the USA, this is the manual of "Standard Oil" or "J. Motors". But in the case with us, the whole country and the people and Stalin.
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 27 December 2020 14: 11
      +8
      Quote: sleeve
      about "Standard Oil" or "J. Motors". But in the case with us, the whole country and the people and Stalin.

      Yes, but at the same time it must be taken into account that the USSR "sold" the results of labor of non-professional workers, mainly the labor of peasants, who, due to their illiteracy, could not work in the production of "high-tech" goods and in return received the results of labor of professional German workers. On a five-point scale, Stalin should be given 10 plus for this.
  13. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 27 December 2020 13: 57
    0
    World War II ... the brainchild of Britain and the United States (collective Anglo-Saxons and their policies) ... enough to know that during this time 3/4 of the world's gold reserves were transported to the United States to understand who the customer and the beneficiary are ... all the cases indicated in the article only the visible part of the iceberg ... the exchange of technologies for the German military-industrial complex is a separate deep topic ...
  14. vladcub
    vladcub 27 December 2020 14: 40
    +3
    Authors, you: "discovered America": 1) "The old rival and eternal opponent of Stalin, Trotsky, regularly called the leader of the peoples:" Hitler's quartermaster "
    a) Trotsky and Stalin had old ones: "graters" that grew into open hatred. It would be unnatural if Trotsky began to praise Stalin.
    b) Trotsky had "sympathies" with American capital since the pre-revolutionary period. In the late 20s and early 30s, American capital was only "looking closely" to Europe and rivals had to be "dirty", but here's the reason: German firms are trading with Stalin (they must be with us)! After all, Stalin is a cannibal. The Red Menace. Here is Trotsky and "played this tune"
    c) The Soviet Union, willingly or unwillingly, helped Germany: the "Rapal Accords" was a mutually beneficial deal.
    Then they joined: General Motors, DuPont and others and others.
    The authors DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING NEW to me!
    All this was written about many times in the Soviet Union.
    For example: Bezymensky, Kehler.
    1. silberwolf88
      silberwolf88 27 December 2020 20: 32
      -1
      and we must always remember that Trotsky had US citizenship))) ... and this explains a lot
  15. Constanty
    Constanty 27 December 2020 15: 59
    +2
    And, for example, the German military ships, which constantly cruised in 1937-1943. in the area of ​​the Spanish Canary Islands, regularly refueled with fuel oil and diesel fuel on the island of Tenerife.



    A strange passage. Until now, I have never seen a fuel bunker on the Kriegsmarine during the war on Tneriff - the timing is strange, in fact - from 1937 to September 1939 there would be nothing strange about it. Indeed, during the Spanish war, the German
    submarines were delivered to the Canary Islands, for example, to Las Palmas, but not with the help of "Standard Oil", but thanks to two German ships, the tankers "Charlotte Schliemann" and "Corrientes".

    During the war, until June 1939, the USSR hid, for example, the German "Bremen" in its ports, not to mention the passage along the NSR HSK "Komet".
    1. mat-vey
      mat-vey 27 December 2020 16: 08
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      Quote: Constanty
      During the war until June 1939

      What kind of war?
      1. Constanty
        Constanty 27 December 2020 16: 17
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        My mistake is because of pasting the wrong fragment from the clipboard - I am writing with the translator. I meant June 1941 of course
  16. boris epstein
    boris epstein 27 December 2020 17: 05
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    Well, judging by the supply of raw materials from the USSR through the western border is not entirely correct. The USSR transited raw materials from Iran to Germany, including oil. Please read the book "Iranian Knot". In exchange for raw materials, Germany supplied the USSR with metal-cutting machines, Maxim machine guns, carriages for 45-mm anti-tank guns, three-line Mosin rifles (produced by order of the USSR, did not enter service with the Wehrmacht), an unfinished heavy cruiser "Luttsov", Mauser Bolo (Bolshevik) adapted for the Soviet 7,62 mm caliber. But the USA supplied to Germany until 1943 through Portugal molybdenum and nickel-alloying additives for armor, oil, aircraft engines ...
    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 27 December 2020 18: 56
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      Quote: Boris Epstein
      But the USA supplied to Germany until 1943 through Portugal molybdenum and nickel-alloying additives for armor, oil, aircraft engines ...

      Excuse me, can I link to documents?
      1. boris epstein
        boris epstein 28 December 2020 11: 57
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        The article "Lend-Lease for Hitler." There is everything about oil, and about aircraft engines, and about rubber, and about methanol, and about bearings, and about trucks for Rommel, and about raw materials ... With the names of firms, surnames and amounts.
        1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
          Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 December 2020 13: 14
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          Quote: Boris Epstein
          The article "Lend-Lease for Hitler." There is everything about oil, and about aircraft engines, and about rubber, and about methanol, and about bearings, and about trucks for Rommel, and about raw materials ... With the names of firms, surnames and amounts.

          I understand, comrade Epstein, that you unconditionally believe in the book of your compatriot Rabinovich, "Jews in the Years of Great Trials", from which, in fact, unsubstantiated nonsense (word for word) flows into the pages of other resources, incl. and VO (I do not know, through the efforts of which Samsonovs). Corporate Jewish solidarity, of course, does you credit, especially since even outright anti-Semites, stepping on the throat of their song, willingly drag this rather opportunistic pulp across different platforms)
          Quote: Boris Epstein
          and about trucks for Rommel

          yes, it's just a song, what is there ... Rabinovich did, yes, he came up with an "Algerian branch of Ford", which, de
          and its other branch, in Algeria, supplied Hitler's General Rommel with trucks and armored vehicles.

          What ....
          And further Rabinovich declares in his book that Ford cars (both trucks and cars) were "the main transport of the Wehrmacht" (like ... poor "blitz"). Well, and Rabinovich's little Jewish joy - Ford, it turns out, died from a blow when he was shown footage of Nazi KZ, the old man's heart could not stand, they say, "the horrific consequences of anti-Semitism" (as in the book). Well, and so on.
          Excuse me, comrade Epstein, but your Rabinovich's interpretations do not seem to me, to put it mildly, convincing. But you, of course, believe, believe.
          1. boris epstein
            boris epstein 28 December 2020 16: 08
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            Well, I expected such an answer. No serious arguments, just a congress on nationality.
            Well then, present documents that refute all my previous posts. And then only malice and nothing else. I have never put any minuses to anyone, but I will deliver it to you with great pleasure.
            1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
              Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 December 2020 16: 53
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              .And then only malice

              What kind of malice, dear comrade Epstein? There are no malicious intonations in my commentary, and not close, do not invent.
              ... I didn’t put any minuses, but I’ll put it to you with great pleasure.

              Yes, I somehow, excuse me, do not care.
              Well then, present documents that refute all my previous posts

              Well, this, you know, is quite voluminous. Let's stop at one of Rabinovich's passages. Say, the supply of trucks and armored cars ford Rommel - would you like to chat about this subtopic?
              1. boris epstein
                boris epstein 28 December 2020 17: 55
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                Well, no way. If you require documents from me, then show them yourself. You don’t show a drain. It means there is nothing to show — one blah-blah-blah. Although I presented an article, you do NOTHING at all.
                1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                  Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 28 December 2020 19: 53
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                  Quote: boris epstein
                  I even presented an article,

                  Well, by God, dear, this is ridiculous)
                  Quotes from Rabinovich's book are not documents. This is a comfortable lie for adepts. A sort of cozy dogma and 'Haym syndrome'. I asked you a question - would you like to substantively talk about the episode with the 'Ford armored cars for Rommel' - you answered
                  ... Well, really no

                  Nevertheless, this lie of Rabinovich is revealed easily and quite documented)
                  Well, no, as they say ...
                  All the best, Comrade Epstein. hi
                  1. boris epstein
                    boris epstein 29 December 2020 17: 02
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                    I'm not your friend, flood launcher. There were no documents, and still no. Got shit, go wash yourself.
                    1. Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                      Paragraph Epitafievich Y. 29 December 2020 17: 15
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                      Quote: boris epstein
                      I'm not your friend, flood launcher.

                      Rather, I am a beadworker. Just the wrong pig choice.
                      ... There were no documents yet.

                      Fuck you. What the fuck are the documents for you after
                      ... Got shit, go wash yourself.

                      I don’t give out matzo on Tuesdays. Vali.
    2. Avior
      Avior 27 December 2020 19: 55
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      ... But the United States supplied molybdenum and nickel-alloying additives for armor, oil, aircraft engines to Germany until 1943 through Portugal

      With all due respect, the Fantasy section on VO has not yet been opened.
      hi
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 27 December 2020 20: 36
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        Just against the background of the contests held on the site, the authors were seized by competitive enthusiasm and they decided to compete with Samsonov in the category "Delirium of the Year".
  17. Hiller
    Hiller 28 December 2020 19: 52
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    And the company "Adam Opel AG" was already a structural division of General Motors. "Money doesn't smell." Their motto is for all time.