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Greek observer: US on S-400 issue with Turkey on stick and carrot

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Greek observer: US on S-400 issue with Turkey on stick and carrot

The Greek press notes that recently the anti-Turkish rhetoric on the part of the United States has become increasingly harsh. Columnist Panayotis Nastos cites as an example Washington's long "refraining" from sanctions against Ankara for acquiring the S-400 "Triumph" air defense system from Russia, adding that "now, before Biden's inauguration, the US has introduced a sanctions package." At the same time, it is recalled that before that there was also a certain sanctions policy - for example, the exclusion of Turkey from the program to create the F-35 fighter.


Panayiotis Nastos:

On the S-400 issue, the United States is trying to act according to the "carrot and stick" method, stating that if Turkey abandons the Russian complexes, it will be returned to the F-35 deal and the sanctions will be lifted.

The Greek author claims that Turkey is bewildered by this position of Washington.

Nastos:

Ankara understands that the Turkish industry will be hit hard by US sanctions, and that problems with the IMF may also arise in helping the poorest sections of the Turkish population.

At the same time, the Greek press is speculating about whether Turkey can afford to get rid of Russian air defense systems. Various experts write that "Erdogan is certainly thinking about it," "but he cannot afford to return the S-400 to Russia."

It is noted that for the Turkish president today, cooperation with the Russian Federation on a whole range of issues is decisive. In this regard, it has been suggested that Erdogan will await Biden's inauguration and his first steps towards Ankara. If such steps are aimed at confrontation, then Erdogan will continue his line. And if Biden lifts the sanctions measures, then Erdogan can "leave the S-400 systems unactivated." But in this case, as already believed in the States, "Erdogan, having received the opportunity to return to the F-35 program, can use it for his own purposes, but against the interests of the United States."
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  1. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 22 December 2020 08: 55
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    rather, according to the method of "offended child" ... fall to the floor ... twist with legs and yell ... but sometimes they don't pay attention to it ... and this is so and generally offensive)))
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 22 December 2020 09: 54
      +3
      "Erdogan, having received the opportunity to return to the F-35 program, can use it for his own purposes, but against US interests."

      Here's something, and the F-35 will be very difficult to use against US interests.
      And the S-400, against US interests, is quite suitable.
      1. 4NCTOKOHKPETHO
        4NCTOKOHKPETHO 22 December 2020 10: 05
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        maybe this is all an idea for Russia? and the c400 is already being dismantled and studied together, American and Turkish experts are testing in the interests of NATO? pretending to be quarreling, but in fact playing a good Turkish and a bad American investigator
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 22 December 2020 10: 08
          +4
          Don't forget about the Turkish special forces, which were half an hour late to visit Erdogan.
          Erdogan himself will remember him all his life. And the followers will be punished not to forget.
          IMHO, that's why he bought the S-400. That there was something, on occasion, to defend against "democracy".
          It was then that NATO lost Turkey as a reliable ally.
          This is a great success for Russia. Just one call and everything has changed.
          There would be no call - the pro-NATO Binali Yildirim would be sitting there.
          He had already received a "label" in Europe then. The coup was made for him.
          And our plane was shot down because of his cunning orders.
          This proved to NATO that he is his own, "bourgeois". Where is he now? hi
          1. 4NCTOKOHKPETHO
            4NCTOKOHKPETHO 22 December 2020 15: 46
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            this would be unambiguously true if NATO were an organization consistently directed towards some kind of stable strategic goal by such a homogeneous group of like-minded people for at least twenty years, and so this organization rather resembles wavering jelly! and Erdogan himself is still a opportunist and today he scolds NATO and tomorrow asks them for help! They are like the very ones that scold but only amuse themselves
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 22 December 2020 16: 03
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              Where the States sneeze, NATO takes it. one hundred%.
              Even with Trump, the hedgehogs cried, injected, but refused to ensure their safety on their own.
              And how they rejoice in old Biden! They do not understand that it will never be like Obama, tenderly. bully
      2. Victor_B
        Victor_B 22 December 2020 10: 50
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        Why did they stick to Erdogan?
        Because mattress specialists are not allowed to the complex?
        Quote: Alex777
        And the S-400, against US interests, is quite suitable.

        C-300 too, but no complaints about Greece?
        Why?
        Because NATO planes train on it.
        Coincidence - I don't think so! (from)
        1. Pavlos Melas
          Pavlos Melas 22 December 2020 14: 04
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          Quote: Victor_B
          Why did they stick to Erdogan?
          Because mattress specialists are not allowed to the complex?
          Quote: Alex777
          And the S-400, against US interests, is quite suitable.

          C-300 too, but no complaints about Greece?
          Why?
          Because NATO planes train on it.
          Coincidence - I don't think so! (from)

          Greece, as it were, did not buy the S-300, but simply agreed to keep them on its territory. They were deployed relatively recently, so the formalities were met without any conspiratorial versions. But the modernization of Greece will not work at the moment.
  2. Pereira
    Pereira 22 December 2020 08: 57
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    Something is not clear whether the anti-Turkish sanctions make the Greek happy or upset?
    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 22 December 2020 09: 58
      +1
      Quote: Pereira
      Something is not clear whether the anti-Turkish sanctions make the Greek happy or upset?

      Of course they are glad, it is directly evident in his texts, despite the supposedly neutral position.
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 22 December 2020 12: 10
      +1
      Quote: Pereira
      Something is not clear, pleasing Greek anti-Turkish sanctions or upset?

      His scares uncertainty.
      Biden can pause the situation content with the fact that the sanctions imposed by Trump are already in effect, the return to the program from the F-35 is closed for Ankara and it will languidly face the choice to return to the program by "refusing" or "not refusing" to remain outside the program. How long will this last? - Biden will let the Turks decide. Turn on the "back" - it means Biden will win, despite the fact that he does not hit his finger on his finger. Do not turn on the "back" - Biden does not lose anything. everything works anyway and he can blame any complication on its predecessor. At the same time, Ankara remains in the NATO bloc and the mattress base in Incirlik also remains. In fact, Biden has the opportunity to smile at Erdogan, despite the fact that all the troubles for Ankara were created not by him, but by his predecessor, and therefore Erdogan has nothing to show Biden. In the meantime, these graters will be solved, the Greeks will not be comfortable with the fact that the S-400 will still be in Turkey.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 22 December 2020 08: 59
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    The Greek author claims that Turkey is bewildered by this position of Washington.

    Seriously? Directly shot down, shot down?
    Something doesn't look like that.
    1. Alex777
      Alex777 22 December 2020 09: 55
      +1
      After the military coup, the States of Erdogan will not be confused. Everything is clear to everyone. hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 December 2020 09: 58
        +1
        So they periodically try to shove the hedgehog into the sultan's trousers!
        I doubt he likes it.
  4. Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 December 2020 09: 01
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    Rhetoric is talking with your tongue, and it is known to be boneless. But what has been done in fact? fellow request
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 December 2020 10: 35
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    Strange people Greeks, reason
    “Erdogan certainly thinks about it but he cannot afford return the S-400 to Russia ”.
    It would be interesting to know, and on what basis (if he suddenly wanted to) Erdogan would decide to return the complexes to the seller? And the Americans themselves have repeatedly stated about the "carrot and stick" policy, so the Greeks did not discover anything new.
  6. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 22 December 2020 10: 36
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    laughing Funny Onet Greeks, sitting themselves on the suction and condemning a member of NATO, Time to reboot the system is the best moment to "rob the cows" and stick a stick in the wheels. laughing I hope the victorious Greek fleet will give a fitting rebuff to the fascist Janissary aggressors! It's time to put an eye on Erdogan's ass! laughing
  7. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 22 December 2020 10: 38
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    Enough hate friends, it's time to move on to the fight! " laughing laughing
  8. New Year day
    New Year day 22 December 2020 11: 07
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    USA on the S-400 issue with Turkey using the "carrot and stick" method

    the standard position of all powerful countries. We also act in this way towards Belarus - we stop oil supplies, then we resume. With Ukraine, the same state of affairs with Turkey. Nothing new