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The Northern Fleet was equated to the military districts

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The Northern Fleet was equated to the military districts

The Northern Fleet was equated to the military districts. The corresponding decree was signed by Vladimir Putin, the document was published on the official portal of legal information.


Consider the Northern Fleet as an inter-service strategic territorial formation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, performing the tasks of the military district

- the document says.

The decree comes into force on January 1, 2021. Thus, in 2021 Russia will have not four, but five military administrative units: the Eastern Military District, the Central Military District, the Southern Military District, the Western Military District, and the Northern Fleet.


In June of this year, Vladimir Putin signed a decree according to which the Northern fleetas a new military administrative unit will include the Republic of Komi, the territories of the Arkhangelsk and Murmansk regions and the Nenets Autonomous Okrug, which will be withdrawn from the borders of the Western Military District. The borders of the remaining three military districts remain unchanged.

Note that the creation of a new military-administrative unit on the basis of the Northern Fleet, equated to military districts, was reported back in the summer of last year.

Recall that 1 December 2014, the Northern Fleet was withdrawn from the Western Military District and at its base the Arctic Joint Strategic Command was created, reinforced by forces and equipment of the Western, Central and Eastern military districts.
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  1. figwam
    figwam 21 December 2020 19: 14
    +7
    Protect the Northern Sea Route.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 21 December 2020 19: 29
      +2
      Quote: figvam
      Protect the Northern Sea Route.

      And in which case, react tough
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 21 December 2020 19: 41
      -22%
      Quote: figvam
      Protect the Northern Sea Route.

      From the pirates?
      1. figwam
        figwam 21 December 2020 20: 09
        +10
        Quote: RUSS
        From the pirates?

        From the gagsters ...
        1. FIR FIR
          FIR FIR 21 December 2020 20: 21
          +7
          Quote: figvam
          Quote: RUSS
          From the pirates?

          From the gagsters ...

          Poacher bandits who hunt arctic eiders lol
          1. Lipchanin
            Lipchanin 21 December 2020 20: 48
            +3
            Quote: FIR FIR
            Poacher bandits who hunt arctic eiders

            And polar bears lol
        2. RUSS
          RUSS 21 December 2020 20: 42
          -15%
          Quote: figvam
          Quote: RUSS
          From the pirates?

          From the gagsters ...

          And yet from whom to protect? And what to guard?
          1. Observer2014
            Observer2014 21 December 2020 21: 16
            -10%
            Quote: RUSS
            Quote: figvam
            Quote: RUSS
            From the pirates?

            From the gagsters ...

            And yet from whom to protect? And what to guard?

            Northern Sea Route! belay And paid supplies of raw materials coming from us to the West, too. What if walruses with polar bears encroach on our blood, It's a pity that the Somali pirates will not survive there. laughingOtherwise, it would be a great reason in the Arctic latitudes to protect the caravans with raw materials coming from us to them. lol
            1. 16329
              16329 22 December 2020 12: 14
              +1
              Why "caravans with raw materials" "drive to the west, when all production is located in the East, in the Pacific region, and the main consumer of energy resources is there, think when you write, some stamps have long become outdated
      2. Machito
        Machito 22 December 2020 03: 44
        +6
        Quote: RUSS
        Quote: figvam
        Protect the Northern Sea Route.

        From the pirates?

        From the northern white fur-bearing animal.
      3. lopvlad
        lopvlad 23 December 2020 12: 35
        0
        Quote: RUSS
        From the pirates?


        yes, from them robbing the whole world under the stars and stripes
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 December 2020 19: 50
      +17
      Quote: figvam
      Protect the Northern Sea Route.

      So in Soviet times, all the time the Northern Fleet also guarded the Northern Sea Route. Only there was much more strength.
      1. FIR FIR
        FIR FIR 21 December 2020 20: 07
        +9
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Quote: figvam
        Protect the Northern Sea Route.

        So in Soviet times, all the time the Northern Fleet also guarded the Northern Sea Route. Only there was much more strength.

        But it was not a military district.
        What does that mean? How can the navy replace the military district? I don't know, Soviet marshals did not know, but modern managers from the Ministry of Defense know No.
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 21 December 2020 20: 16
          -15%
          And a division can be called a division, only it will not become a division ...
          Well, of course, 280.000 people in the ground forces, even theoretically, cannot provide the defense capability of a territory of more than 17 million square meters. km ...
          The next step will be the announcement of the Pacific Fleet as an analogue of the Eastern Military District ...
          And then it will come to the Baltic ...
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            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 21 December 2020 20: 51
              -12%
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: Doccor18
              And then it will come to the Baltic ...

              Would it be wrong. In addition to the Len VMB and Baltiysk, everything is gone ...

              I won't be surprised at anything.
              Even if the Caspian Flotilla is made a district ...
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 21 December 2020 20: 52
            +2
            Quote: Doccor18
            And then it will come to the Baltic ...
            Would it be wrong. In addition to the Len VMB and Baltiysk, everything is gone ...
        2. Alex777
          Alex777 21 December 2020 20: 18
          -7
          Apparently, you underestimate the role of Zircon and Caliber-M (when they appear) in educating Europe in a spirit of peacefulness and restraint. hi
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 21 December 2020 21: 08
            +2
            Quote: Alex777
            Apparently, you underestimate the role of Zircon and Caliber-M

            Zircons and Calibers are one thing, but the fleet itself, whether it be BF or another, is completely different.
            1. Alex777
              Alex777 21 December 2020 22: 13
              +1
              I understand the difference. I just wanted to point out the potential. hi
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 21 December 2020 20: 32
          +7
          Quote: FIR FIR
          How can the navy replace the military district?

          Both under the tsars and under the Bolsheviks, the navy remained a navy.
        4. Piramidon
          Piramidon 21 December 2020 22: 55
          +4
          Quote: FIR FIR
          What would it mean?

          At least the district will have supplies directly from the MO. In my time, the Northern Fleet had to feed on the leftovers from the LenVO table.
        5. Senka naughty
          Senka naughty 22 December 2020 05: 19
          -1
          Who are you with us? Marshal or manager?
        6. ccsr
          ccsr 22 December 2020 12: 05
          +1
          Quote: FIR FIR
          But it was not a military district.

          Why do you think so? In Soviet times, each of the four fleets was equated to a district in its organizational structure, and their entire infrastructure was practically similar to district structures, from positions to logistic services at the level of the last naval grain cutter. Quantitatively, l / s fleets were smaller, but they all had district status. And in terms of nuclear power, two out of four fleets had such superiority over the districts that not a single district was even suitable for them.
      2. figwam
        figwam 21 December 2020 20: 13
        0
        Quote: tihonmarine
        So in Soviet times, all the time the Northern Fleet also guarded the Northern Sea Route.

        At the moment, due to melting, it is becoming the most attractive for the West.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 21 December 2020 21: 15
          0
          Quote: figvam
          At the moment, due to melting, it is becoming the most attractive for the West.

          And what is in your concept of "melting", maybe all the ice has melted in the Arctic, and there is clear water, like in the Black or Mediterranean Seas? You at least once "crawl" along the White Sea from Gremikha to Mudyug, and then you will learn about melting everything and everyone.
          1. figwam
            figwam 21 December 2020 21: 24
            +2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            What's in your concept of "melting"

            The whole world knows about this, but you do not, it is not my fault.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 22 December 2020 09: 55
              0
              Quote: figvam
              The whole world knows about this, but you do not, it is not my fault.

              The whole world knows that Russia is to blame for everything, it also knows that somewhere is melting.
              And I do not give a damn about this world, which can only tell lies.
              And when I was at the entrance to the White Sea, near the Tersko-Orlovsky lighthouse, for a week I was waiting for a "krigolom" to be escorted to Arkhara, then for me there was no "clean water" and there was no melting.
          2. Grits
            Grits 22 December 2020 02: 52
            +2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            You at least once "crawl" along the White Sea from Gremikha to Mudyug, and then you will learn about melting everything and everyone.

            Even if he uses your advice and nevertheless "crawls", he will definitely not find the White Sea there.
          3. Piramidon
            Piramidon 22 December 2020 11: 09
            0
            Quote: tihonmarine
            maybe all the ice has melted in the Arctic, and there is clear water, like in the Black or Mediterranean Seas?

            And what is the difference between the southern coast of Crimea or the southern coast of Kildin? All one - the South Coast. laughing
    4. Finches
      Finches 21 December 2020 20: 42
      -9
      This is to be expected - what is a district - it is a military-territorial unit! Or, for civilians, having dropped to form - the federal district of the country, which includes everything: land, subsoil, people ... Now, what is the Arctic, in the list of our Northern Fleet is OUR subsoil, OUR waters ... - the territory of Russia ! Bravo, Vladimir Vladimirovich!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 December 2020 21: 17
        -10%
        Quote: Finches
        that - the Arctic, in the list of our Northern Fleet - is OUR bowels, OUR waters ... - the territory of Russia! Bravo, Vladimir Vladimirovich!

        And earlier in whose "statement" was the Arctic? He is a goat".
        1. Finches
          Finches 21 December 2020 21: 32
          +1
          A fleet is a large group of ships, vessels, crews, etc. Simply put - a big pile of hardware and its staff! And now it has become - an interspecific strategic territorial association, with all the bowels, ice, animals, waters, birds and insects ... And all the people living here! That's clearer?
      2. Finches
        Finches 21 December 2020 21: 38
        0
        Naminusili already - as they say - will be recruited into the army on the announcement ...! laughing
      3. ccsr
        ccsr 22 December 2020 12: 18
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        This is to be expected - what is a district - it is a military-territorial unit!

        This is, first of all, the organizational structure of the armed forces, and this has the last relation to the territory, judging by how our districts were cut after the collapse of the USSR. However, even in Soviet times, if we take the districts and groups of troops, then even then there were, to put it mildly, "districts on paper", but there were quite large groupings of ground forces. Now, separating the Northern Fleet into an independent unit, in my opinion, it is absolutely correct to split up huge districts, which are difficult to manage even in peacetime. I think if the Pacific Fleet is allocated in the same unit and huge sparsely populated territories are hung on it, then it will be much easier for the landmen to manage the remaining territories. The salaries of officials at the admiral-general level and senior officers of the district-fleets are just mere pennies compared to what is spent on weapons, equipment maintenance, business trips, tests, training and other delights of military service. So that is not where you need to save, as Serdyukov saw - this one did much more harm to the country than was the benefit from his "reforms".
        1. Finches
          Finches 22 December 2020 12: 49
          0
          You are a little wrong - according to the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of 19.04.2017/177/XNUMX N XNUMX "On approval of the Regulations on the military district of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation" - "The Military District of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is the main military-administrative unit of the Russian Federation, interspecific strategic territorial the association of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation and is created to carry out measures to prepare for armed protection and for armed protection integrity and inviolability of the territory Of the Russian Federation within the established limits of responsibility "
          1. ccsr
            ccsr 22 December 2020 13: 08
            +1
            Quote: Finches
            You are a little wrong - according to Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of 19.04.2017 N 177 "On Approval of the Regulations on the Military District of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation" - "The Military District of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is the main military administrative unit of the Russian Federation,

            If you carefully study the decree, and look at it through the eyes of a Soviet officer, you will see the phrase
            main military administrative unit
            which means:
            - firstly, the word "military" is in the first place, which means that military interests prevail over administrative ones, and, accordingly, territories are defined under them.
            - secondly, the word "base" only sets the outline along which the district will be built, which as a result may end up not at all within those boundaries and with the weapons and equipment that were originally in it.
            And the words "territorial association" generally come after the words "military-administrative", which immediately pushes them to second place in the document in terms of directive meaning.
            So, in any case, military interests prevail over territorial ones, based on this decree. However, this is how I was taught to understand official documents - maybe now they are not taught to understand such subtleties, then your interpretation takes place.
            1. Finches
              Finches 22 December 2020 13: 09
              +1
              Military-territorial ... Perhaps you were taught differently, I will not argue! hi
    5. svp67
      svp67 21 December 2020 21: 02
      +6
      Quote: figvam
      Protect the Northern Sea Route.

      Well, judging by the geography of its location, it is only part of the NSR, but the fact that all our main island bases in the Arctic fall into its zone of responsibility, yes ... Well, time will show the correctness of this decision.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 December 2020 22: 34
        +5
        Quote: svp67
        Oh, the fact that all our main island bases in the Arctic fall into his zone of responsibility, yes ... Well, time will show the correctness of this decision.

        Russian Columbus, disdaining the gloomy fate, Between the ice a new path will open to the east, And our country will reach America. MV Lomonosov
        In our naval business, for success and true movement forward, it is best to put the conquest of the Arctic Ocean as one of the first plans. DI Mendeleev
        “The Arctic is a complex thing. It is necessary to create an organization that would be responsible for everything. And I would have known that she was responsible for the Arctic and for nothing else. And we will ask her - and strictly! Then you will be fine. Let's create the Main Directorate of the Northern Sea Route under the Council of People's Commissars, instruct it to pave the way from the White Sea to the Bering Strait, equip it, keep it in good condition and ensure the safety of navigation. Enough for now". I.V. Stalin
    6. g1v2
      g1v2 22 December 2020 02: 01
      +3
      Rather, it is entirely north. In fact, all districts and SFs control their direction and their group of countries. And each district has its own tasks, opponents and its own separate TVD. Tsvo, due to the fact that it controls a more or less friendly direction, is a reserve for all districts. That is, his forces can be transferred both to the western TVD, and to the southern or eastern one to strengthen the forces of the districts operating there. It is more difficult with the Northern Fleet, since the Arctic is an extremely specific TVD and for operations on it you need the appropriate equipment and training. PM SF is more autonomous.
    7. Cormorants
      Cormorants 22 December 2020 07: 03
      0
      For the bourgeoisie, the Arctic is a very fat piece, so it needs to be protected, for this the fleet was equated with the whole district. It is possible that the interests of different capitals may intersect there.
  2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 December 2020 19: 16
    +14
    Interestingly, the girls dance four pieces in a row.
    In my understanding of the layman, the fleet should be the fleet, the districts - the districts.
    A similar reform suggests itself with the Pacific Fleet.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 21 December 2020 19: 32
      +21
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      In my understanding of the layman, the fleet should be the fleet, the districts - the districts.

      No-no-no, simple structures are not about us.
      We are ruled by schemes, when first the fleet is subordinated to the "boots" from the district, and then the fleet is given to the subordination of the "boots" from the same district. As a result of such a leapfrog, full-time structures for naval affairs appear at the headquarters of the district, and full-time structures for land affairs appear at the headquarters of the fleet. And everything is in business. smile
      And somewhere far away, naval rear personnel hiss, on which, for example, the supply of corps artillery with its 300-mm MLRS and 203-mm cannons suddenly fell.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 21 December 2020 20: 19
        +4
        And somewhere far away, naval rear personnel hiss, on which, for example, the supply of corps artillery with its 300-mm MLRS and 203-mm cannons suddenly fell.

        This is not the worst thing yet.
        Clothes and provisions, here is a capital madhouse waiting ...
    2. dzvero
      dzvero 21 December 2020 19: 40
      +7
      It seems to me that in a couple of years, on the basis of an independent Federation Council, an Arctic Military District will be created from Murmansk to Anadyr. Maybe they don't want the "partners" to have problems with digestion or incontinence ...
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 21 December 2020 19: 56
        +5
        Quote: dzvero
        It seems to me that in a couple of years, on the basis of an independent Federation Council, an Arctic Military District will be created from Murmansk to Anadyr.

        So they would create, otherwise)))
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 December 2020 19: 53
      +2
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      A similar reform suggests itself with the Pacific Fleet.

      Without a doubt, the Pacific Fleet also protects the Northern Sea Route from the Bering Strait to Japan. Maybe there will be a district.
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 21 December 2020 20: 26
        +5
        Apparently the desire to show the "figure" to Europe will be stronger.
        And Japan, once again, did not seem to want to dragon.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 21 December 2020 22: 10
          +1
          Quote: Alex777
          Apparently the desire to show the "figure" to Europe will be stronger.
          And Japan, once again, did not seem to want to dragon yet

          Yes, Europe was shown a "figure" by my father, his brothers and uncles, although also to Japan (grandfathers, Transbaikalians, fought back in 1904).
      2. Svetlana
        Svetlana 21 December 2020 22: 30
        -1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        the Pacific Fleet also protects the Northern Sea Route from the Bering Strait to Japan

        Seven (or two: Pacific Fleet and SF) nannies can have a child without an eye. The Germans in the Second World War loved to beat at the junction of our units. In the case of the protection of the Northern Sea Route by the forces of the Northern Fleet and the Pacific Fleet, the joint in the region of Chukotka and the Bering Strait.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 21 December 2020 23: 34
          -1
          Quote: Svetlana
          In the case of the protection of the Northern Sea Route by the forces of the Northern Fleet and the Pacific Fleet, the joint in the Chukotka and Bering Strait region.

          The Northern Fleet was the first map until 1945, the DB zone.

          The second map is the Pacific Fleet zone BV. Japanese to Petropavlovsk Kamch. did not act, the Germans were not even there. There was no junction anywhere between them.

          In general, the navy is not an army; they have a different front line than the army.
    4. fif21
      fif21 21 December 2020 20: 31
      +2
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      A similar reform suggests itself with the Pacific Fleet.

      For some reason, the Russian General Staff considers the European theater of operations to be the most vulnerable area. But TF is the only real oceanic fleet in the Russian Federation. And "partners" are nearby, with their decision-making centers, and samurai with their territorial claims. hi
      1. Runway
        Runway 21 December 2020 23: 47
        -3
        Only the access to the Oceanic expanses for the Pacific Fleet steamers is, to put it mildly, geographically difficult (with regard to the grouping of surface steamers). It is more expedient to rename it to the Japanese fleet (here they will be surprised in Tokyo).
        They called the SF a district - the SDS will be replenished with new posts of "happy people" and "eip colonels".
  3. ccsr
    ccsr 21 December 2020 19: 20
    +10
    Recall that on December 1, 2014, the Northern Fleet was withdrawn from the Western Military District

    There was nothing to enter it there initially based on the power of this fleet. If the Baltic and Black Sea fleets do not pull on a real fleet (district) after the collapse of the country, and it was enough to leave them as part of independent flotillas, then they acted completely stupid with the Northern Fleet. Well, at least now this misunderstanding is being corrected and the fleet will be made full in terms of the organizational structure. But the most important dream of the naval to come true - they will be removed from the subordination of "boots". Otherwise they suffered so much ...
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 21 December 2020 19: 26
      +9
      Quote: ccsr
      But the main dream of the naval will come true - they will be removed from the subordination of "boots". Otherwise they suffered so much ...

      He-he-he ... now the naval will suffer for a different reason - they will receive "boots" in submission. smile
      Quote: ccsr
      If the Baltic and Black Sea fleets do not pull on a real fleet (district) after the collapse of the country, and it was enough to leave them as part of independent flotillas

      The Baltic Fleet is generally a Mobius strip of some kind. The DKBF is subordinate to the ground forces from the LVO, but at the same time the fleet includes an army corps and air defense in the Kaliningrad region.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 21 December 2020 19: 34
        +3
        Quote: Alexey RA
        He-he-he ... now the naval will suffer for a different reason - they will receive "boots" in submission.

        Well, they will endure this - it was not for nothing that they dreamed of marine divisions in Soviet times, but their wishlist "boots" broke off. Now they will scratch their turnips a little, but I think all this can be solved.
        Quote: Alexey RA
        The DKBF is subordinate to the ground forces from the LVO, but at the same time the fleet includes an army corps and air defense in the Kaliningrad region.

        All this was not done out of great intelligence, and any landowner understands this. I think it was necessary to make them flotillas and enlarge them a little, but without ground troops. However, the current commanders know better - let their head hurt, how to make a divorce painlessly.
        1. Kuz
          Kuz 21 December 2020 20: 08
          +14
          Quote: ccsr
          However, the current commanders know better - let their head hurt, how to make a divorce painlessly

          If only the Moremans and landowners themselves did not get sick ...
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 December 2020 19: 56
      +2
      Quote: ccsr
      But the most important dream of the naval will come true - they will be removed from the subordination of "boots".

      Submission itself is not scary, but the money went precisely through the army.
    3. Doccor18
      Doccor18 21 December 2020 20: 32
      0
      Otherwise they suffered so much ...

      We are so fond of taking an example from the West ... Only examples are often negative and leading to degradation.
      But there are also very sensible things ... Take, for example, the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the United States - the structure most consistent with the modern concept of command and control of the armed forces ...
      All admiral generals solve one priority task, under general control, but with knowledge of the matter in each separate branch and type of troops.
      1. ccsr
        ccsr 22 December 2020 12: 01
        +1
        Quote: Doccor18
        Take, for example, the Joint Chiefs of Staff of the United States - the structure most consistent with the modern concept of command and control of the armed forces ...

        The United States has never really fought on its territory, which is why such a structure suits them for expeditionary operations. And over a thousand-year history, we have developed our own understanding of military affairs and the structure of the armed forces is sharpened for one-man command at all levels. So we hardly need to copy the US model - we ourselves will teach anyone how to fight in any situation. There are blunders, but this is inevitable, and this is due more to the personal factors of the commanders, and not to the organizational structure of the armed forces itself. So I see no reason to perceive the US system as a model of rationality.
        Quote: Doccor18
        All admiral generals solve one priority task, under general control, but with knowledge of the matter in each separate branch and type of troops.

        There is one nasty thing that is not very noticeable at the lower level, but it manifests itself strongly at the top - this is the personal relationships of the top military leaders. I will not even recall the classic example of the fifties, when the Central Committee had to intervene in the dispute between the commanders whether it was possible to go to Berlin in February 1945, but even at a later time, Ogarkov's example clearly showed how they dealt with the unwanted. So discord in opinions is even more dangerous than the decision made, albeit not the most optimal, but which comes from one boss.
        This I judge purely from my experience of service.
  4. Doctor
    Doctor 21 December 2020 19: 21
    +9
    Very bearded, but let me remind you:

    SF is the fleet itself.
    The Pacific Fleet is also a fleet.
    The Black Sea Fleet is the fleet, it is not the fleet.
    BF is a former fleet! "
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 21 December 2020 19: 32
      +1
      Quote: Arzt
      SF is the fleet itself.
      The Pacific Fleet is also a fleet.
      The Black Sea Fleet is the fleet, it is not the fleet.
      BF is a former fleet! "

      Mugut Moremans kink laughing
      Laughed to tears laughing
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 December 2020 20: 03
      +6
      Quote: Arzt
      BF is a former fleet! "

      And when that, Twice Red Banner Baltic Fleet, Red Banner Northern Fleet, Red Banner Black Sea Fleet, Red Banner Pacific Fleet. Nostalgia and sadness in the soul. The red banner disappeared along with the country, as a tribute to socialism.
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 21 December 2020 20: 23
        -1
        Quote: tihonmarine
        And when that, Twice Red Banner Baltic Fleet, Red Banner Northern Fleet, Red Banner Black Sea Fleet, Red Banner Pacific Fleet.

        "We were once horses too ..." (c)
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 21 December 2020 22: 18
          0
          Quote: Lipchanin
          "We were once horses too ..."

          I’m better for the old romance, as was then customary in St. Petersburg -Once upon a time you too were trotters And you had dashing coachmen, Your mistress has grown old with you, A pair of bay ones! ... A couple of bay ones!
    3. Doccor18
      Doccor18 21 December 2020 20: 40
      0
      The Pacific Fleet is also a fleet.

      Oh don't anger the Pacific negative
      "Fleet too" - will not work. "What fleet!" - the very thing ...
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 21 December 2020 20: 51
        +4
        Quote: Doccor18

        Oh don't anger the Pacific

        They also have a good sense of humor. wink
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 21 December 2020 21: 05
          0
          Quote: Lipchanin
          Quote: Doccor18

          Oh don't anger the Pacific

          They also have a good sense of humor. wink

          And there is enough sense of humor, and ambition ... above the roof good
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 21 December 2020 22: 21
          +2
          Quote: Lipchanin
          They also have a good sense of humor.

          The fleet always begins with humor, but not with romance - "Whoever saw ships not on candy wrappers, but whoever they had on these ships from the tank until evening, has no time for romance."
  5. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 21 December 2020 19: 26
    +1
    That's right, we need to strengthen our positions in the Arctic against the background of hostile statements by "partners" and their provocative actions near our borders in the Barents Sea.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 21 December 2020 19: 43
      -10%
      Quote: Fedor Sokolov
      That's right, we need to strengthen our positions in the Arctic against the background of hostile statements by "partners" and their provocative actions near our borders in the Barents Sea.

      I read you how Kiselev listened laughing
    2. u-345
      u-345 21 December 2020 19: 45
      +6
      Arctic fox. (The animal is like that).
      I like these "gains". Right now, as a sign at the headquarters, we will change, as the adversaries tremble!
      What ships were added to the Northern Fleet?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 21 December 2020 20: 06
        -4
        Quote: u-345
        What ships were added to the Northern Fleet?

        Salaries, stars on shoulder straps, and the headquarters staff.
  6. Voltsky
    Voltsky 21 December 2020 19: 49
    -12%
    This is supposedly a label for the northern Arctic king wrote out for himself;)
    1. Lionnvrsk
      Lionnvrsk 21 December 2020 20: 59
      +5
      Quote: Voletsky
      This is supposedly a label for the northern Arctic king wrote out for himself;)

      Hey, Peteris Yanovich, you can't forgive the authorities for everything? repeat
      1. Voltsky
        Voltsky 21 December 2020 22: 24
        -9
        a ghost walks around the planet, created your Chekists, so I go looking after :)
  7. Prisoner
    Prisoner 21 December 2020 20: 49
    +3
    Strong. The "partners" have a new reason for whining and howling.
  8. Vladimir247
    Vladimir247 21 December 2020 21: 24
    -5
    Some strange decrees have gone ... I've never seen anything like that. Where is the signature?
    1. m-arsenich
      m-arsenich 21 December 2020 21: 53
      +3
      Vladimir 247:
      This is the usual procedure adopted in government agencies. In the case there is 1 copy, the rest - from the Chancellery.
      1. Vladimir247
        Vladimir247 21 December 2020 22: 00
        -2
        Really? How nice ... but why was the clerical copy taken for publication, and not the first? Not scanned in any way? Why do we need a scan for internal office work?
  9. Arnaut
    Arnaut 21 December 2020 22: 14
    +2
    And you, friends, do not sit down ...
  10. faterdom
    faterdom 21 December 2020 22: 24
    +2
    All other districts have quite clear ground tasks in the theater of operations. This direction does not have any ground tasks, except for protecting the coast and covering the bases of the fleet, but there are two strategic ones: the fleet itself as a striking force of a strategic level, and now here is the Arctic zone of the Russian Federation, which we, not expecting favors from partners, simply and clearly we put it under our control.
    And this is a very specific task, and so far unsolvable by anyone except us.
    This is very different from the same tasks, say, in the Arkhangelsk region in terms of land use to form second-echelon divisions for further reinforcement of the borders with Finland in the region of northern Karelia during the ona (Leningrad Military District)
    In general, it is reasonable.
    Plus new weapon systems, they will all be here too. Base and, if necessary, apply from here.
    So, the tasks are as important as they are specific, and it is somehow short-sighted to solve them between the preparations for the parades and the holding of tank biathlon.
    Hopefully the decision is correct ... which has rarely pampered us in recent decades.
    And the suffering of the rear officials ...
    as there Slashchev used to say: "Not the front for the rear, but the rear for the front!"
  11. fa2998
    fa2998 22 December 2020 05: 54
    -1
    Quote: Doccor18
    And then it will come to the Baltic ...

    In the USSR, the VO is a front, consisting of several armies. Whatever you count, our fleets, with corvettes, do not pull on the district. hi
  12. Old tanker
    Old tanker 22 December 2020 06: 33
    -1
    I wonder why there is never even a facsimile of a signature on the decrees of the permanent, and why is there a seal for post items?
  13. Radikal
    Radikal 23 December 2020 16: 08
    +1
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: figvam
    Protect the Northern Sea Route.

    So in Soviet times, all the time the Northern Fleet also guarded the Northern Sea Route. Only there was much more strength.

    Well, don't confuse those forces, and the fact that now - this is a new association "created", imagine how much paper will be required to revise the governing documents, what a job! And you mean "strength" - strength is .... In general, the party knows what it is doing. lol
    hi