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Deripaska hinted at the need to judge Navalny for treason

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Deripaska hinted at the need to judge Navalny for treason

Russian businessman Oleg Deripaska announced the need for criminal punishment against persons who "provoke" sanctions against Russian citizens and companies. According to him, such actions are comparable to high treason. He wrote about this in his Telegram channel.


According to the businessman, it is necessary to amend the Russian Criminal Code by adding an article to it, providing for criminal liability for "provoking" sanctions. And the action itself equates to high treason.

The actions of those citizens who, directly or indirectly, these sanctions against Russian individuals or legal entities provoke, probably, it is quite logical to qualify as treason to the motherland, with the corresponding criminal consequences

- he said.

Deripaska stressed that the sanctions are weapons "hybrid war" and no better than "bombing Russian cities or direct attacks on the borders." He is convinced that the imposed restrictions sometimes cause even greater damage to the civilian population than the listed military actions.

Although the businessman does not name a single name, it can be assumed that the publication hints at potential traitor Alexei Navalny, who, while in Germany, called on Western countries to impose sanctions against Russia.

For our part, we note that Deripaska's proposal is not new, this idea was repeatedly discussed in the State Duma, even a punishment of imprisonment for up to 3 years was proposed for those who incited the imposition of sanctions against Russia. However, to date, no decision has been made on this issue.
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  1. Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 21 December 2020 12: 20
    +47
    He himself must be judged for squandering the Motherland! You see, sanctions prevent him from trading in Russia. negative
    1. Temples
      Temples 21 December 2020 12: 24
      +22
      You also need to introduce criminal liability for the collapse of the ruble.

      This is also comparable to a military operation against the inhabitants of our country.

      You pay all kinds of taxes, and we will devalue the rest. This is the current development strategy.
      1. Stas157
        Stas157 21 December 2020 12: 28
        -28%
        Into life! Poisoned, and then made a traitor. It is my fault that I stayed alive!
        After all, the dead Navalny would certainly not have been sewing an article for treason.

        Sanctions ... they shouted to us how useful it is! It turns out no, or what?
        1. DenZ
          DenZ 21 December 2020 12: 34
          +2
          When they shout, you can hear it better, but this does not make the content more truthful.
          1. Sergey Nemov
            Sergey Nemov 21 December 2020 14: 26
            +24
            Quote: DenZ
            When they shout, you can hear it better, but this does not make the content more truthful.

            Import substitution is a confirmation of this.
            1. krot
              krot 21 December 2020 19: 31
              +1
              conducting criminal penalties against persons who "provoke" sanctions against Russian citizens and companies

              I agree with this position!
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 21 December 2020 21: 00
                +5
                The fact that those who oppose Russia are traitors and they must be punished clearly and without Deripaska. And appeals to foreigners to impose sanctions against Russia is clearly treason. Aggravated by the massiveness and loudness of this appeal. Particularly difficult aggravating circumstances. yes yes yes
                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 22 December 2020 01: 13
                  +20
                  They rob me and sell my homeland not in bulk, but Deribaska and other "friends of a friend". If it were not their betrayal and sycophancy in front of the "partners" from whom they keep the stolen goods, any sanctions from Russia would be on the side. And d and o t and z m "believers" are "aggravating circumstances" of a crime that lasts 30 years. Those who justify swindlers and thieves are accomplices. You have to answer - whining will not save and will not help. In all fairness, commensurate with the damage caused, and it is colossal. Justice is always against liars. Power is in the truth!
                  1. Vladimir Mashkov
                    Vladimir Mashkov 22 December 2020 11: 20
                    -2
                    Quote: lexus
                    They rob me and sell my homeland not in bulk, but Deribaska and other "friends of a friend".

                    I suppose you are right. Only the article deals with words Deripaska, not about him personality... And, if the moderator wishes, your comment can be considered and punished for a flood! Although, I think, it is permissible to talk about the ethics of this gentleman's reasoning about treason. yes
                    1. krot
                      krot 22 December 2020 19: 37
                      -2
                      They rob me and sell my homeland not in bulk

                      And it is Navalny who is betraying my homeland!
                      1. Escobar
                        Escobar 23 December 2020 08: 38
                        +2
                        Google about the Navalny case and the Kirov Lesa
                  2. begemot20091
                    begemot20091 22 December 2020 16: 34
                    +1
                    Navalny stole no less. Why not sit? Here's the question. He's gon ... n no less used than his late comrades in England. And on the show are: Nadezhdin-uncle from Dolgoprudny. His attempts to appear smart near Nemtsov were not crowned with success, but he put his playful hands on the robbery of the country in the 90s. All can not calm down in any way - they moved from the trough. And the sharovarniki from the Ruins - the forelock clown and the foolish kovtun - chased after Vasil and Nikolaevsk, a stupid deputy. Stankevich- he should definitely try on an article for the collapse of the USSR. About "echo-echo-echo" generally keep quiet. It's better to listen to this song for hours than the momentary stupidity of this garbage can.
              2. Shiva83483
                Shiva83483 21 December 2020 21: 28
                -5
                It is high time to smear the forehead with green stuff for these dodgers ...
                1. Lexus
                  Lexus 22 December 2020 04: 13
                  +11
                  Are you hinting at the "state council"? Preaching dangerous thoughts. winked
                  1. Shiva83483
                    Shiva83483 22 December 2020 07: 29
                    -1
                    What kind of a kind Council of State? what are you talking about? and about smearing the forehead with green stuff, this is about comrades for whom the USSR Criminal Code had a corresponding article numbered 64, if my memory does not change. Ferstein?
              3. Lexus
                Lexus 22 December 2020 04: 11
                +9
                Mole, your vision raises doubts in normal people. laughing
              4. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 23 December 2020 07: 09
                0
                Quote: krot
                I agree with this position!

                Navalny is openly cooperating with intelligence officers, encroaching on the reputation of such an element of statehood as the president, and finally has two STANDARD TERMS! what prevents him from simply being arrested and imprisoned ??
        2. loki565
          loki565 21 December 2020 12: 39
          +22
          yes, yes, they hounded, and the result is like after a deep hangover))) oh, now, of course, the battle poisons are not the same, they used to inject with an umbrella and immediately ran away)))
          1. Stas157
            Stas157 21 December 2020 12: 49
            -16%
            Quote: loki565
            the result is like after a deep hangover)))

            Are you talking about a hangover? Is it just like that?))

            And you to our doctors Do you believe who were the first to treat Navalny?

            Navalny was taken unconscious to the toxic reanimation department of the City Clinical Emergency Hospital No. 1 in Omsk. Navalny was admitted to the hospital with a coma of unknown genesis. 10 minutes after admission, the hospital doctors introduced him into an artificial coma and connected him to a ventilator. According to the deputy head physician Kalinichenko, Navalny was placed in the toxicology department because ambulance doctors diagnosed him with". Boris Teplykh, one of the participants in the consultation of doctors in Omsk, said that his colleagues in the first minutes made Navalny atropine injections medicinal product, which is an antidote for poisoning with organophosphate toxic substances and that it helped stabilize the patient
            1. loki565
              loki565 21 December 2020 13: 05
              +16
              So what? atropine is a standard drug, it will help if you are poisoned with dichlorvos))) he will not be able to stop any combat poisons.
              1. Metallurg_2
                Metallurg_2 21 December 2020 18: 10
                +5
                Apparently dichlorvos and poisoned: I decided to drive cockroaches in my head :)
            2. Voltsky
              Voltsky 21 December 2020 13: 14
              +4
              an overdose of stimulants with pancreatitis goes away like this; And how does the poisoning go with a chemical warfare agent designed to attack over the areas ...
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 21 December 2020 14: 11
                +3
                Quote: Voletsky
                overdose stimulants for pancreatitis so it goes

                from this place in more detail! Once I wrote a doctoral dissertation on pancreatitis - your message is very interesting laughing
                1. Doctor
                  Doctor 21 December 2020 16: 19
                  0
                  overdose of stimulants with pancreatitis so it goes

                  from this place in more detail! I once wrote a doctoral dissertation on pancreatitis - your message is very interesting laughing


                  It's simple. Do not get carried away with stimulants - there will be no pancreatitis! laughing

                  1. New Year day
                    New Year day 21 December 2020 16: 37
                    +6
                    Quote: Arzt
                    Do not get carried away with stimulants - there will be no pancreatitis!

                    what are stimulants and stimulants of what? laughing
                    Pancreatitis is cholangiogenic and primary acinous, chronic and acute, with ductal hypertension and without it. What do you mean? Shine with knowledge laughing
                    1. Doctor
                      Doctor 21 December 2020 17: 45
                      +2
                      what stimulants and stimulants of what? laughing
                      Pancreatitis is cholangiogenic and primary acinous, chronic and acute, with ductal hypertension and without it. What do you mean? Shine with knowledge laughing

                      Something you are all in a bunch and etiology and morphology and course ... Exactly doctor of medical sciences! laughing

                      I was referring to our usual Russian acute pancreatitis of alcoholic genesis, with the development of pancreatic necrosis and further implementation in the SPON with a predominance of cerebral insufficiency of toxic genesis. Before coma I Art. like Comrade Navalny.

                      And all the adventures began with them, with stimulants, as Winnie tells us lol

                      1. New Year day
                        New Year day 21 December 2020 21: 46
                        +3
                        Quote: Arzt
                        I meant our usual Russian acute pancreatitis of alcoholic genesis

                        what is the classification? laughing
                        Quote: Arzt
                        further implementation in SPON with a predominance of cerebral insufficiency of toxic genesis

                        laughing exactly, "academician"! Only there is no cerebral insufficiency, unless only you. Study the question - how and what is called
                      2. Doctor
                        Doctor 21 December 2020 22: 29
                        +1
                        what is the classification? laughing

                        By ICD.
                        K85.2 Acute pancreatitis due to alcohol (Alcohol-induced acute pancreatitis).

                        Only cerebral insufficiency does not exist, unless only you.

                        Come on you. laughing
                        The syndrome of acute cerebral insufficiency is a symptom complex of violations of the quantitative and (or) qualitative level of consciousness.
                      3. New Year day
                        New Year day 21 December 2020 23: 46
                        +3
                        Quote: Arzt
                        By ICD.
                        K85.2 Acute pancreatitis due to alcohol (Alcohol-induced acute pancreatitis).

                        So you are treating according to ICD? Oh well, laughing And I thought they were treated according to national standards, There are a lot of such bullshit in ICD laughing How does the course of pancreatitis in this category of patients differ from the course of the disease after taking fatty and fried foods? What is the prognosis of alcoholic and fatty pancreatitis? Well, give it to the mountain laughing
                        Quote: Arzt
                        The syndrome of acute cerebral insufficiency is a symptom complex of violations of the quantitative and (or) qualitative level of consciousness.

                        what does this have to do with pancreatitis? Obviously like schizophrenia laughing
                        3 points for glimpses of pancreatology request and for diligence laughing Enriched with knowledge
                      4. Lexus
                        Lexus 22 December 2020 04: 06
                        +10
                        Dear colleague Sylvester, hello! hi
                        True criminals are so sophisticated that it is difficult for honest people to understand their plan. That is why they do not ask why the "patriot" Deribaska needed the citizenship of Cyprus, as well as the goals / needs of the uncomplaining surrender of Russian aluminum to the enemies. Pancreatitis "iPhone" for them will also be an unexpected revelation. Thumps, sir, de in thoughts about Russia.
                      5. Doctor
                        Doctor 22 December 2020 09: 03
                        0
                        what does this have to do with pancreatitis? Obviously, like laughing schizophrenia
                        3 points for glimpses of pancreatology request and for diligence laughing Enriched with knowledge

                        Where did Vinnie start?
                        an overdose of stimulants with pancreatitis so goes;


                        Hints that the Omsk patient overdosed on "stimulants" to an alcoholic coma. wink
                      6. New Year day
                        New Year day 22 December 2020 10: 26
                        +3
                        Quote: Arzt
                        Hints that the Omsk patient overdosed on "stimulants" to an alcoholic coma

                        So what are stimulants? Alcohol or scrambled eggs? And why stimulants? There is a generally accepted concept of "provocateurs". Potency stimulants are understandable, but pancreatitis stimulants are unclear. He, pancoeatitis, already exists and you stimulate him, or he is not, then what about stimulants?
                        With pancrenecrosis with PON, there is no alcoholic lump. Leading in thanatogenesis is sepsis, renal failure. From the point of view of psychiatry, mental disorders fit into the diagnosis of "delirium of mixed genesis". And then, how do you define cerebral insufficiency in a ventilated patient under sedation? This is basically impossible
                      7. Doctor
                        Doctor 22 December 2020 10: 33
                        -1
                        So what are stimulants?

                        I don't know what Vinnie means. Maybe an alcoholic energy cocktail. drinks

                        And then, how do you define cerebral insufficiency in a ventilated patient under sedation?

                        He was just unloaded from the plane. There was no sedation. And cerebral insufficiency was already there. Coma. belay
                      8. New Year day
                        New Year day 22 December 2020 11: 04
                        +4
                        Quote: Arzt
                        And cerebral insufficiency was already there. Coma.

                        personally identified by "The Glasgow Coma Scale, GCS"?
                      9. Doctor
                        Doctor 22 December 2020 11: 08
                        0
                        personally identified by "The Glasgow Coma Scale, GCS"?

                        The head physician said. In the first interview. 6-8 points.
              2. Doctor
                Doctor 22 December 2020 09: 13
                0
                So you are treating according to ICD? Well, well, laughing And I thought they were treated according to national standards,

                By ICD, diagnoses are formulated. Are we talking about this?

                In the national standards for the same, the TIGAR-O classification, in the first place in terms of frequency, is toxic, alcohol-related, the Paddington alcohol test, etc.

                Not fundamentally.
                The probability of a patient entering toxicology in an alcoholic coma against the background of pancreatitis is fundamental.
                Take a ride through the Moscow intensive care units on January 5, evaluate ... laughing
              3. New Year day
                New Year day 22 December 2020 10: 36
                +4
                Quote: Arzt
                According to ICD, diagnoses are formulated

                For statistics! For officials who have never seen pancreatitis in their eyes! The etiological moment in the group of primary-acinous pancreatitis is not of particular importance - everything develops according to one scenario.
                And if you drank 50 grams and ate a kilo of bacon? Why is pancreatitis? Such reporting is needed by officials and has nothing to do with medicine.
                There is no difference in the course, development of complications and outcome in the group of primary acinar pancreatitis, depending on the etiological moment (alcohol, fat, dietary supplements and just food intake). This whole group is treated in a standard way, everything is the same for them. And if it's the same, then nehru a shadow on the fence leads, to engage in near-medical crap.
                Quite another matter is hypertensive-ductal pancreatitis! In this group, it is necessary to first relieve hypertension - remove the stone from the OBD or common bile duct, perform a zolecystocholangiostomy. Failure to do this leads to a programming process and is a strategic mistake.

                Quote: Arzt
                Take a ride in the Moscow intensive care unit on January 5,

                Don't teach a scientist - that's what I've been doing for 40 years of my life.
              4. Doctor
                Doctor 22 December 2020 11: 10
                -1
                Why is pancreatitis?

                Yes, that's all clear. Is the question in this particular case similar to pancreatitis?
                I think no. You, as I understand it, too. hi
  • tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 22 December 2020 07: 21
    +2
    Fighting phosphoarganic is suppressed, in some way, by Athens and not by atropine. "Novice" refers to combat warfare agents.
  • figwam
    figwam 21 December 2020 12: 40
    +9
    Quote: Stas157
    Into life! Poisoned, and then made a traitor. It is my fault that I stayed alive!

    It seems to me that you were poisoned first, and then the others.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 12: 49
      -13%
      Quote: figvam
      It seems to me that you were poisoned first, and then the others.

      When there is nothing to say, we get personal? That a lot of you have gotten divorced recently. As a matter of fact, what do you want to say, tell me. And why go to the individual?
      1. figwam
        figwam 21 December 2020 12: 59
        +4
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        That a lot of you have gotten divorced recently.

        Are you the site wrong?
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 13: 20
          -4
          Quote: figvam
          Are you the site wrong?

          I was not mistaken. It does not matter who hounded there, or did not hunt bulk, there is something to say in essence komenta, tell me. And to offend a person and in general to become personal is disgusting, I think.
          1. figwam
            figwam 21 December 2020 13: 24
            -3
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Not wrong.

            They usually communicate in other places.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 13: 28
              +5
              Quote: figvam
              They usually communicate in other places.

              I don't give a damn about bulk. Rudeness similar to yours is unacceptable. Did your mother teach you good manners as a child?
              1. figwam
                figwam 21 December 2020 13: 42
                -2
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                I don't give a damn about bulk.

                And I don’t care, I despise him.
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                Rudeness similar to yours is unacceptable.

                I did not even think and did not begin to be rude.
                1. Bourgeois 1963
                  Bourgeois 1963 21 December 2020 14: 51
                  +3
                  Sorry, due to ignorance of the politics of modern Russia, I want to understand why you, in my opinion, as an ordinary person, so despise and hate Navalny. From those two films created by his group that I watched, it is completely clear to me why an ordinary citizen of Russia can speak negatively about this blogger. First, he is either an accomplice of a group that supplies cabbage and other food products to soldiers. Or the second - a person for a small bribe working for this group in the information space. Based on the materials I have viewed, I see no other reasons. Maybe I'm wrong, because I haven't thoroughly studied the subject. Please, provide specific data on the harm done to the Navalny country of Russia. Please report them for a more complete understanding of the depth of this problem.
                2. figwam
                  figwam 21 December 2020 15: 00
                  +6
                  Quote: Bourgeois 1963
                  as an ordinary person, so despise and hate Navalny.

                  I've had enough for that.
                3. Bourgeois 1963
                  Bourgeois 1963 21 December 2020 17: 26
                  -2
                  I do not know how reliable the material you provided is. From everyday experience and even with my no knowledge of Adobe Photoshop, I can argue that such a primitive collage as you presented can be done in about an hour. The text written there is generally compiled by an idiot, and when I watched the blogger's video, I did not notice in it, as in politics, destructive signs of idiocy. You didn’t think that certain forces could manipulate you personally, slipping fake electronic documents with the blasphemy of Georgy Konstantinovich, knowing your reverent attitude towards him. Advice - don't trust such screenshots. Maybe you have a link to a video where Navalny wishes Russia and its residents something bad. Publish it, please, because your example, due to the above suspicions, is somewhat naive, and is absolutely not worth an ounce of hatred.
                4. Doctor
                  Doctor 21 December 2020 18: 10
                  +2
                  I do not know how reliable the material you have provided is.

                  Not in defense of Navalny, for justice.

                  Sorted it out.
                  Navalny quotes Tesak in this post.
                  https://navalny.livejournal.com/142157.html?thread=1847373#t1847373

                  His explanations.
                  https://navalny.livejournal.com/143387.html

                  Original.
                  c.pics.livejournal.com/oilweb/36797418/16190/16190_original.jpg
                5. Bridgestone
                  Bridgestone 21 December 2020 21: 01
                  +1
                  Quote: Arzt
                  Not in defense of Navalny, justice for.

                  Very commendable! How do you assess the frank confession of the killers in the operation to poison Navalny and cover up their tracks?
                  It's not photoshop!
                6. Doctor
                  Doctor 21 December 2020 21: 08
                  0
                  Very commendable! How do you assess the frank confession of the killers in the operation to poison Navalny and cover up their tracks?
                  It's not photoshop!

                  Another nonsense of bloggers. Attempts to pull by the ears what was not.
                7. Lexus
                  Lexus 21 December 2020 22: 05
                  +5
                  Thanks for the interesting video, colleague. hi
                  When the puzzle is complete, a half of a prison cell in The Hague will be waiting for someone. The Olympics and the World Cup are no longer possible here.
                8. Doctor
                  Doctor 21 December 2020 22: 35
                  +3
                  Thanks for the interesting video, colleague. hi
                  When the puzzle is complete, a half of a prison cell in The Hague will be waiting for someone. The Olympics and the World Cup are no longer possible here.

                  Lexus, no security officer will NEVER discuss the details of an operation over the phone. This is simply NOT POSSIBLE.
                  The inner brake will certainly work, they are trained from childhood with such posters:

                9. Lexus
                  Lexus 21 December 2020 22: 49
                  +5
                  Colleague hi , FSB is not a Cheka !!! There are many, and this is Openel's secret, by acquaintance and inheritance. Therefore, nothing surprising. Special operations are not a business to squeeze out and cover brothels, and then "earned" in the common fund for apartments and garages! The stomach / commerce is stronger in the current ones. You will find a video of the release on geliks on the open spaces of the cheburnet without me.
                10. Doctor
                  Doctor 21 December 2020 22: 56
                  +3
                  Colleague hi, the FSB is not a Cheka !!! There are many, and this is Openel's secret, by acquaintance and inheritance. Therefore, nothing surprising. Special operations are not a business to squeeze out and cover brothels, and then "earned" in the common fund for apartments and garages! The stomach / commerce is stronger in the current ones. You will find a video of the release on geliks on the open spaces of the cheburnet without me.

                  Everything is possible. But not at that level. It would be a top-secret operation, and it would be wrecked.

                  And the wrecks do not live in such bums, where CNN came, allegedly to the poisoner.
                  It would be a special house, where you can enter the porch. bully
                11. Lexus
                  Lexus 21 December 2020 23: 05
                  +6
                  Yuri, well, good. Sixes live just like that. In all means of communication and electronics, without exception, only formally "import-substituted" giblets. And most importantly, they are giving up their own people, because I don't really want to be responsible for the company for other people's sins / crimes. Grandfather is no longer a cake - it can be clearly seen even by people without medical education. Will still compete in the championship for the report "for a puddle". You will see. Soon.
                12. Stas157
                  Stas157 22 December 2020 18: 30
                  +14
                  Quote: Arzt
                  And the wrecks do not live in such bums, where CNN came, allegedly to the poisoner.

                  Who was that? Who did you come to? What is your confidence that this is not a FSB officer based on? Are you skillfully guessing on coffee grounds or what?

                  You don't know anything! Some dummy your broadcast.

                  Everything in the video was shown. No denials from the authorities on the people presented in the investigation. Putin admitted that there was a monitoring group! Isn't that enough for you?
    2. figwam
      figwam 21 December 2020 18: 20
      0
      Quote: Bourgeois 1963
      I do not know how reliable the material you have provided is.

      This is his LJ correspondence, although the liberals shouted that it was he who was quoting, but there are no quotes.
      There is such a thing.
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 21 December 2020 14: 35
    +9
    I wonder where this is heading? Convinced communists are called names in bulk! laughing
    1. figwam
      figwam 21 December 2020 14: 45
      -1
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Convinced communists are called names in bulk!

      Convinced communists will not defend.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 21 December 2020 16: 10
        +6
        If Navalny exposed corrupt officials, and he was persecuted, anyone who agrees with this? belay
      2. figwam
        figwam 21 December 2020 16: 32
        -1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        If Navalny exposed corrupt officials and was persecuted

        Or maybe he was poisoned by Western special services or his associates in the struggle for money, or maybe he has health problems, and you have already carried out a one-sided causal relationship or conducted an investigation and the court admitted it? No. Then it is only your conclusions that may be far from reality. And to be piled up or not is everyone's business.
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 21 December 2020 18: 06
        +6
        Quote: figvam
        Or maybe he was poisoned by Western special services or his associates in the fight for money,

        How does the FSB team that flew with him across the country fit into this paradigm, and even Putin admitted this?
        And especially their specialization (doctors / chemists)?
      4. figwam
        figwam 21 December 2020 18: 29
        +1
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        How does the FSB team fit into this paradigm?

        Do you think that a traitor and a spy should not be under control? His every step is known and all the provocations that they are up to.
      5. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 19: 11
        +4
        Quote: figvam
        Do you think that a traitor and a spy should not be under control? His every step is known and all the provocations that they are up to.

        Tell me, honestly, how is this traitor and spy (Navalny) different from other traitors and spies (Chubais, Gref, Potanin)? The fact that you have not yet managed to get to the trough? Or is there something else?
      6. figwam
        figwam 21 December 2020 19: 26
        0
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Or is there something else?

        Yes, they are all similar guys, but so far only one with Western money is trying to arrange a Maidan.
      7. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 19: 31
        +5
        Quote: figvam
        Yes, they are all similar guys, but so far only one with Western money is trying to arrange a Maidan.

        Just the first, through the Maidan to the trough of the second is selected. And the second Maidan in the early 90s staged the same for Western money. Why are they better? Or do they need to be "understood and forgiven"?
      8. figwam
        figwam 21 December 2020 19: 38
        +5
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Why are they better? Or do they need to be "understood and forgiven"?

        And I don’t understand them and don’t forgive them, but to allow bulk is to step on the same rake a second time and finally destroy Russia, but you know, I feel sorry for the state.
      9. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 20: 42
        +5
        Quote: figvam
        but to allow bulk is to step on the same rake a second time and finally destroy Russia,

        Least of all I would like to see Navalny in power. You mustn't let him. But all this does not change his investigative films. Of course, all this must be checked. With his poisoning, the same turns out dull. Why has the Investigative Committee still not opened a case, or at least not initiated an investigation before? This is not correct, I think. Yes, you have to deal with him according to the law.
      10. raw174
        raw174 21 December 2020 21: 12
        +4
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Why has the Investigative Committee still not opened a case, or at least not initiated an investigation before?

        Firstly, the case is not cockroaches, it does not start, but is initiated, but this is so, a small clarification of the terminology ... Secondly, in order to initiate a check, you need to appeal from someone ... I ventured to suggest that Navalny did not apply to the law enforcement agencies of the Russian Federation ... For example, you go to the UK, in your village, and write a statement on this matter. Investigative Committee does not carry out verification of conjectures, appeals and facts are needed.
  • Ingvar 72
    Ingvar 72 21 December 2020 20: 56
    +3
    Quote: figvam
    traitor and spy should not be under control

    Chemists and doctors? wink
  • figwam
    figwam 21 December 2020 21: 21
    -1
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Chemists and doctors?

    Putin confessed to you, the investigation is over)))
  • Alex777
    Alex777 21 December 2020 19: 01
    -5
    Convinced communists will not defend.

    Don't you know that Rashkin is responsible for interaction with Navalny among the communists?
  • Alex777
    Alex777 22 December 2020 00: 27
    -1
    https://fn-volga.ru/news/view/id/130788?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 22 December 2020 02: 40
    +5
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    I wonder where this is heading? Convinced communists are called names
  • Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 21 December 2020 18: 14
    -3
    No, he was born so bruised on the floor.
  • Varyag71
    Varyag71 21 December 2020 12: 42
    -10%
    Alinka Kabaeva screamed very loudly. And now the chairman of the board of directors.
  • Temples
    Temples 21 December 2020 12: 42
    +15
    Quote: Stas157
    Into life! Poisoned, and then made a traitor. It is my fault that I stayed alive!

    Wake up uncle.

    He was saved in Russia.
    The doctors pumped him out and brought him back to life.
    His life was saved in Russia.

    We live among people. Ordinary people.
    There are also scum.
    But the vast majority of people around me are good.

    And this scum wishes us grief.

    For me, they could not have saved, but only we were brought up differently.
    We help even enemies.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 21 December 2020 15: 05
      +7
      Quote: Temples
      And this scum wishes us grief.

      Putin wants only good every year, but his boyars somehow fulfill these desires in a peculiar way! wink
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 19: 13
        +5
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Putin wants only good every year, but his boyars somehow fulfill these desires in a peculiar way!

        I always knew that we were lucky with the tsars, unlucky only with the boyars. wink
    2. Stas157
      Stas157 21 December 2020 22: 10
      +14
      Quote: Temples
      Wake up uncle.

      Quote: Temples
      And this scum wishes us grief.

      How you burn!)))

      Putin and his fellow oligarchs are no better than this Navalny. And they certainly did more harm to Russia than some blogger out there! Nevertheless, the first you worship, and the second you hate. In creative works, this phenomenon is called an oxymoron.
  • Okolotochny
    Okolotochny 21 December 2020 12: 48
    -12%
    "Poisoned", Stas, shut up, give a smart ride. Can you tell us about the ice ax and Mercader? What authorities were behind this?
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 21 December 2020 19: 51
      +7
      Quote: Okolotochny
      Poisoned ", Stas, keep quiet, give a smart ride. Tell us about the ice ax and Mercader? What authorities were behind this?

      And that all libraries in Ust-Labinsk were closed?
      Or are you too lazy to read, they don't give you books?
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 22 December 2020 11: 48
        0
        Everything is fine in Ust-Labinsk. How many pairs of sneakers did you trample in Afghanistan?
        Bread cutter, well, be a man, confess your fairy tales. Or are you not a man?
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 22 December 2020 12: 46
          +4
          Quote: Okolotochny
          Everything is fine in Ust-Labinsk. How many pairs of sneakers did you trample in Afghanistan?
          Bread cutter, well, be a man, confess your fairy tales. Or are you not a man?

          Are you hysterical? You probably don't understand Russian well.
          1. Okolotochny
            Okolotochny 22 December 2020 12: 58
            0
            I am fine. What about your eyesight? Has he cured? Finally went to the army? And how do you throw your blind blades? tongue
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 22 December 2020 13: 33
              +4
              Quote: Okolotochny
              I am fine. What about your eyesight? Has he cured? Finally went to the army? And how do you throw your blind blades?

              You're not okay, choose Zed or nigga, and something tells me that Zed
              1. Okolotochny
                Okolotochny 22 December 2020 14: 03
                -3
                Storyteller, go restore your eyesight. You didn't lose it from hawthorn tincture? lol
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 22 December 2020 14: 32
                  +5
                  Quote: Okolotochny
                  Storyteller, go restore your eyesight. You didn't lose it from hawthorn tincture?

                  pupated? And this is only reconnaissance in force, you have wonderful times ahead, so purely the Boys will begin to punch you. I said 100 times, don't be dashing ...
                2. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 22 December 2020 14: 40
                  +1
                  Come on, come on, "punchers", "so clean", "boys". Where did he go and for what article? lol ... Such "boys" live under the bunk. tongue Have experience ???
                3. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 22 December 2020 14: 53
                  +3
                  Quote: Okolotochny
                  Come on, come on,

                  If necessary, I will give ...
                  And what is the ufsin academy? Well what a fig? Well, there will be no rest for you either on a white day or on a dark night ...
                  PySy. I loved hamsters when I was young.
                4. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 22 December 2020 15: 01
                  0
                  Academy of the Federal Penitentiary Service - there they teach how to identify pontorezs, grain cutters, logals bichatnikov. And how to bring them down to the sinful earth freeing them from show-off. Have you restored your eyesight, that you are shkerin 'on Odnoklassniki? Or did you follow the tincture advice? laughing
                5. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 22 December 2020 15: 04
                  0
                  Yes, and ask the kenya logal how he was homeless in Stavropol laughing Wanted with him too?
                6. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 22 December 2020 18: 18
                  +3
                  Quote: Okolotochny
                  Roundabout (Alexey)
                  Today, 15: 04

                  I can't understand one thing, but why are you talking to me in PM? Right here and write, well, so that I fear you as much as possible. belay
                  in general, we slept the fly! wassat
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 22 December 2020 14: 40
          +6
          Quote: Okolotochny
          Storyteller, go restore your eyesight. You didn't lose it from hawthorn tincture?

          You see, you and I have a difference, you try to hit the aytsam from under the tishka, and I will beat you in your sly kaklyatsky, well, this is a "face". That's the whole disposition ...
          PySy. For admin. This quote.
        3. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 22 December 2020 14: 44
          0
          Restore vision first tongue "Fighter". Do you work in the slaughterhouse? And where did you say for the testicles - do you even have them? laughing Or followed my advice with the tincture and grew bolder?
  • Lionnvrsk
    Lionnvrsk 21 December 2020 13: 24
    +2
    Quote: Stas157
    Into life! Poisoned, and then made a traitor. It is my fault that I stayed alive!

    There is no need to eat anything! Yusch crayfish overeat- in Charite! Xisyan savored lobsters - in Charité! repeat
    1. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 21 December 2020 18: 15
      +2
      Yuscha bees bitten in the apiary, that's why the klikukha is the Pasechnik.
  • KCA
    KCA 21 December 2020 13: 33
    +2
    Yes, no one poisoned him, said one of the survivors of the Gorbachev struggle with drunkenness that they sprayed Dichlorvos into vodka, he decided to try, also organophosphate, and the residues in the blood will show the same as the BOV, well, if the person survives, from Beginner, strongest BOV, fins stick together in seconds
  • raw174
    raw174 21 December 2020 13: 35
    -9
    Quote: Stas157
    Into life! Poisoned, and then made a traitor. It is my fault that I stayed alive!
    After all, the dead Navalny would certainly not have been sewing an article for treason.

    If the Beginner really interfered with the top, would he be dead, or is the “newcomer” of Putin's agents expired? The whole poisoning story is like a production ...
    And about the article, of course, nonsense, if you involve for sanctions, you need to start with Putin, because the beginning of the sanctions is Crimea, and on Crimea the decision was made by Putin.
  • zloybond
    zloybond 21 December 2020 14: 19
    0
    People like Navalny are secretly guarded, be healthy. Their death will only add to the squeal. So this is just not the case. And in vain the GDP kept silent about this.
  • sustav75
    sustav75 21 December 2020 14: 37
    +4
    It seemed to you! And the retirement age was raised! And taxes! And prices climb into the mountains! It all seemed to you!
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 23 December 2020 14: 39
      -1
      and the gross will not abolish your retirement age, nor will it reduce prices, nor taxes (because taxes are the budget and salaries of state employees, that is, doctors, teachers, security officials, and so on)
      because he is the same capitalist as the rest hi If only he will change the owners of large enterprises (of course, except for foreign owners), recruiting leaders from his friends and those whom his sponsors will "advise" him. A new redistribution of property and turmoil? Why? Are you sure you will survive?
  • VORON538
    VORON538 22 December 2020 16: 26
    0
    And who poisoned whom? Do you believe in the lies about the newcomer and the bulk? You seem to be a communist? And you interfere with a pro-Western capitalist, and a failed one! So you are not a communist! laughing
  • IS-80_RVGK2
    IS-80_RVGK2 21 December 2020 12: 35
    +3
    The petty bourgeoisie ached. For what you fought, then disentangle. laughing
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 21 December 2020 13: 01
      +10
      fig is small .. who then is big? but in fact, he "licked" well, "I'm kind of good, uncle Vova, the main thing is, do not dispossess kulaks"
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 21 December 2020 16: 36
        +9
        So I'm not talking about Deripaska. I'm talking about a commentator. And why the hell would a liberal Putin dispossess the liberal Deripaska?
        1. Essex62
          Essex62 21 December 2020 20: 03
          -2
          Their roots are somewhat different, what kind of liberals are there? Ours grew out of merry shootouts and rework 90s. And the clan of fighters can bend the "stranger's boy" one or two times. So, the advisor's comment is quite relevant.
    2. Pilot
      Pilot 21 December 2020 13: 07
      +11
      Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
      The petty bourgeoisie ached. For what you fought, then disentangle. laughing

      The big bourgeoisie whines and wants to judge the petty, the petty bourgeoisie squeals at the big one and also wants to judge it .. Sodom and Gomorrah. All for a count! Tired of rogue touring performers for 30 years more than arrogant Anglo-Saxons in history!
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 21 December 2020 15: 07
        +5
        Quote: Pilot
        All for a count! Tired of rogue touring performers for 30 years more than arrogant Anglo-Saxons in history!

        And Pedal, and all members of the Lake cooperative! good
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  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 21 December 2020 13: 58
    +5
    Quote: Temples
    You also need to introduce criminal liability for the collapse of the ruble.

    I strongly support you in this!
  • Plastmaster
    Plastmaster 23 December 2020 09: 09
    -1
    Quote: Temples
    You also need to introduce criminal liability for the collapse of the ruble.

    This is also comparable to a military operation against the inhabitants of our country.

    You pay all kinds of taxes, and we will devalue the rest. This is the current development strategy.

    There is such a country as Puchinegia, where all potentially convicted persons are both. But the citizens of Puchinega live better than in the USSR and even more so in Russia.
  • Civil
    Civil 21 December 2020 12: 33
    +19
    And what is the best oligarch Deripaska from Provalny? Both are oriented strictly to the West, where they feed.
    1. Temples
      Temples 21 December 2020 12: 48
      +1
      Nothing.
      One suit.
      They even behave the same - to heaven on someone else's hump.,

      And everyone around is to blame except them.
    2. Pilot
      Pilot 21 December 2020 13: 33
      +8
      Quote: Civil
      And what is the best oligarch Deripaska from Provalny? Both are oriented strictly to the West, where they feed.

      Well, if only in details .. In this case, Deripaska is ridiculous, confusing the Motherland and Your Excellency. And how does a rootless cosmopolitan guest performer know for their Motherland ...
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 21 December 2020 12: 52
    +2
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    He himself must be judged for squandering the Motherland! You see, sanctions prevent him from trading in Russia. negative

    Is it possible that the business was so pinched that I even wanted to sue ... Only the accusation is incomprehensible ... This is impossible for this, he could not change what he does not have ...
  • Sergey Nemov
    Sergey Nemov 21 December 2020 14: 22
    +18
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    He must be judged himself

    Friends of a friend are not subject to legal action.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 21 December 2020 14: 34
    -1
    One is the other one enemy of the country and the other a thief.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 21 December 2020 19: 22
      +4
      Quote: Incvizitor
      One is the other one enemy of the country and the other a thief.

      And the thief is not the enemy of the country?
  • iouris
    iouris 21 December 2020 18: 46
    +3
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    He himself must be judged for squandering the Motherland!

    So I noticed: Deripaska did not indicate the article of the Criminal Code and you did not indicate either. Why?
    And second: does the state no longer exist if private individuals are trying to impose its functions on themselves?
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 21 December 2020 21: 07
      +2
      Well, if the governors issue resolutions on which they have no authority under the laws of the Russian Federation, then why shouldn't the oligarchs?
      1. iouris
        iouris 21 December 2020 22: 44
        0
        Firstly, confirm your statement by an example, otherwise it is unconvincing, and secondly, do you agree with this, do you think that it should be so? Generally, there can be governors, but there shouldn't be oligarchs. If someone is officially recognized as an oligarch, then his place is in prison, because politics and the state should be separate from business, and business must not only pay taxes, but also perform social functions. This is not me, the Germans invented it at the beginning of the XNUMXth century.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 22 December 2020 09: 19
          -2
          Quote: iouris
          First, back up your claim with an example.

          Not so ultimately please. According to the rules of dialogue, the opposing side is obliged to refute. wink
          Well, if on the matter, then the coronavirus resolutions contradict the constitution, since all regimes can be introduced by the authorities, and the Supreme Court excluded the governors from this list. In addition, I recommend that you study the list of restrictions imposed by the governors and google the eligibility of this in general.
          1. iouris
            iouris 22 December 2020 16: 35
            0
            And on this issue there can be no dialogue ("Do not confuse linen wool with the state one!"). Here the norms of the legislation apply. If you are not able to prove a defamatory statement, then you may be "attracted" (calmly, I am not the governor.)
  • Prax1
    Prax1 21 December 2020 12: 22
    -42%
    What is treason then? Uncovered a group of your killers? Oh, how bad.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 12: 26
      +27
      Uncovered a group of your killers?

      How's that? belay
      They killed him and he revealed them all?
      The tenacious Navalny does not take him even after the second attempt at poisoning ... moreover, Navalny's appearance after all these poisonings as if he had just returned from the resort ... refreshed and rested ... heh heh victim of the regime.
      1. Temples
        Temples 21 December 2020 12: 27
        +16
        Quote: Prax1
        What is treason then? Uncovered a group of your killers? Oh, how bad.

        And he was killed? laughing
        Another imagines himself to be Jesus. laughing

        Xixiang has risen!
        Have the sectarians already decided on the date of the celebration? wassat
      2. Prax1
        Prax1 21 December 2020 12: 31
        -40%
        2 attempt at raving scribblers. There was only one. He miraculously survived because of the "particularly smart" operatives. Which failed miserably.
        1. Threaded screw
          Threaded screw 21 December 2020 12: 36
          0
          He miraculously survived because of the "particularly smart" operatives. Which failed miserably.

      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 21 December 2020 12: 37
        -14%
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        They killed him and he revealed them all?

        Do you know that attempted murder is as serious a crime as murder itself?
        In addition, do you think that a group of FSB doctors and chemists purely accidentally followed Navalny across the country?
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 13: 02
          +3
          a group of FSB doctors and chemists, purely by chance, went for Navalny throughout the country?

          Why such difficulties? smile
          Why release Navalny from Russia after 1 poisoning attempt?
          Too quickly, Navalny recovered from severe poisoning.
          Many questions to Navalny himself arise and to the escort group of his associates.
          Why did they get into his room after the poisoning?
          To collect evidence of the poisoning that they themselves initiated ... in general, all this is sewn with white thread.
          Who from MI6 accompanied Navalny in Germany? The presence of a British intelligence officer in Navalny's entourage raises a lot of suspicion.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 21 December 2020 15: 16
            +2
            Quote: Lech from Android.
            Why release Navalny from Russia after 1 poisoning attempt?

            The case is too resonant. Most likely, they deliberately poisoned with a small dose, so that there would be no evidence of poisoning.
            Regarding MI 6, I agree, I think they leaked information about the grief of the poisoners. The CIA and MI 6 not only know how to protect business, they appoint to the position not according to the degree of loyalty to the boss, but according to professional aptitude. So it was in the KGB once. Now the FSB is an overly commercialized office. See Golunov's investigation.
            And the pedal enemy, I do not deny it, but this does not justify the enemies in our government, who identify themselves with the people only in such "exceptional" cases when you need to share losses with someone. hi
      4. Sentinel-vs
        Sentinel-vs 21 December 2020 12: 37
        +25
        The famous Internet meme immediately comes to mind
      5. figwam
        figwam 21 December 2020 13: 01
        -2
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        How's that?

        They will do it that way.
    2. iouris
      iouris 21 December 2020 12: 26
      +11
      Is he killed? When?
      1. 210ox
        210ox 21 December 2020 12: 35
        +6
        Probably in the dreams of this "commentator" with the nickname of Alesha.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 21 December 2020 12: 41
        +11
        Quote: iouris
        Is he killed? When?

        Killed! Recently! He died in Bose exactly with the birth of the story of the poisoning.
        Now Navalny is a political corpse and only stinks unmercifully.
        PS What is remarkable is that Navalny was thundered by his curators. yes
      3. 210ox
        210ox 21 December 2020 14: 05
        +2
        The most interesting thing about this circus with roots is that in Russia Lyosha would be safer. Now I won't give a penny for his skin. Will go as a sacred sacrifice.
    3. Cron
      Cron 21 December 2020 12: 31
      +14
      Quote: Prax1
      What is treason then? Uncovered a group of your killers? Oh, how bad.

      What could he reveal there? How did the urine hit his head or what? It turns out that this clown has been trying to eliminate for many years, but to no avail, then his wife felt bad, then him. And this is on the territory of the country in which they tried to do it. Circus of some kind
      There is no way, like Olesya Buzina, to bang for certain, and then appoint murderers to government posts, with complete indifference to this "civilized" society. But no, newcomers put some kind on Alexei's thongs, and then let him go abroad to find it all there. Some kind of sick people ...
      1. Prax1
        Prax1 21 December 2020 12: 40
        -28%
        Strange you, why do you think that you can just bang it. There is a more subtle game going on. Navalny is perceived in the west as a politician and the president's main rival. Hence the huge support. I think you know well where the oligarchs keep the assets and all Putin's entourage .. And what will happen if you impose sanctions against them.
        1. Cron
          Cron 21 December 2020 12: 48
          +11
          Quote: Prax1
          Strange you, why do you think that you can just bang it. There is a more subtle game going on. Navalny is perceived in the west as a politician and the president's main rival. Hence the huge support. I think you know well where the oligarchs keep the assets and all Putin's entourage .. And what will happen if you impose sanctions against them.

          In the west, Navalny is perceived only as a pawn in which a lot of money has been invested. And solely so that Russia has its own high technologies, so that Russians can be proud of their Baikal processor, squeezing out the conventional Intel on the market and taking away most of the profits from the capitalists. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 21 December 2020 12: 51
          +7
          Quote: Prax1
          Strange you, why do you think that it can just bang.

          And who needs to bang it? He's already a used contraceptive gum, his place is in the trash can. Is it possible that someone will climb into the trash heap for a used "device" ..
        3. Cron
          Cron 21 December 2020 12: 54
          +5
          I think you know well where the oligarchs keep the assets and all Putin's retinue ..

          And what is the point of keeping these assets in the West? So that they can take you by the balls at any time? Is it smeared with honey? Why can't they be kept at home, protected by strategic weapons?
          The same assets as those of Yanukovych? When, after escaping, they could not present anything on the merits to him in court? Did you find a gold toilet, or is the search still going on?
          1. Doctor
            Doctor 21 December 2020 16: 26
            +4
            And what is the point of keeping these assets in the West?

            And what's the point of keeping them here?

            So that they can take you by the balls at any time?

            laughing
            1. Cron
              Cron 21 December 2020 16: 37
              +1
              Quote: Arzt
              And what is the point of keeping these assets in the West?

              And what's the point of keeping them here?

              So that they can take you by the balls at any time?

              laughing

              The man wrote about Putin's retinue. Well, what's the point of taking out assets when you can keep it all here?
              And who will take them by the balls? Are you? Do not make me laugh
              1. Doctor
                Doctor 21 December 2020 17: 15
                +3
                And who will take them by the balls? Are you? Do not make me laugh

                Yes, Putin himself will take it. wink Why else would Abramovich buy Chelsea?
                Again, the little people can rebel, then all the pitchforks. am

                I want guarantees ...
                1. Cron
                  Cron 21 December 2020 17: 41
                  +3
                  Quote: Arzt
                  And who will take them by the balls? Are you? Do not make me laugh

                  Yes, Putin himself will take it. wink Why else would Abramovich buy Chelsea?
                  Again, the little people can rebel, then all the pitchforks. am

                  I want guarantees ...

                  With all sorts of Abramovichs there was a different situation. Then it was clearly said, either you do not go into politics anymore and keep your capital, or you go to the bunk. Someone immediately understood, but someone got to places not so distant.
                  Well, what a riot of the people, what are you talking about? All these are fairy tales for children. Even when in the 90s the last panties were removed from everyone, the people were just silent and survived.
                  Ukrainian script? When will the "people" be shown who is bad and who is good? When they went to smash the president's house, and there were the same people across the road, and even much better than the houses of the opposition? So we have long ago removed the entire oligarchy from power.
                  Mass betrayal of the elites? The most real, but at the same time the most incredible. They already have quite large guarantees of immunity under this government.
                  Will our oppositionists lead the crowd out into the street? Well, they will be rolled into the asphalt, and much tougher than in Minsk, then what? In an extreme case, they will act as in Egypt, when the Muslim brothers were striving for power. But instead of power, thousands of their supporters received only holes in their foreheads. Although there were really huge protests, it’s even funny to compare with our kindergarten.
                  All hope of the West for Navalny in 2024 .. That he, having gathered a couple of hundred thousand supporters in the capital, will take power. Well, they have tarnished his reputation so much lately that there is nowhere else to go
                  1. Doctor
                    Doctor 21 December 2020 20: 15
                    -1
                    Well, they have tarnished his reputation so much lately that there is nowhere else to go

                    What about his reputation? The youth are in the majority for him.
                    1. Cron
                      Cron 21 December 2020 20: 41
                      +2
                      Quote: Arzt
                      Well, they have tarnished his reputation so much lately that there is nowhere else to go

                      What about his reputation? The youth are in the majority for him.

                      Who is interested in it? Only in non-states is this mass capable of doing something.
                      I even saw somewhere Old that according to search queries in Ukraine, Alexey is the person of the year. So, subtracting all these well-wishers from the CIS countries, subtracting children who, after watching highly intelligent content from A4 and other bloggers, run to their idol, we get such support. In principle, which is what our oppositionists take to the streets.
                      1. Doctor
                        Doctor 21 December 2020 20: 59
                        +2
                        Who is interested in it?

                        Nobody yet. But the game goes on for a long time.

                        Next elections in 2024.
                        Navalny will be 48 years old and Putin 72.

                        And in the elections in 2030 - 54 and 78, respectively.

                        And in 2036 - 60 and 86.
                        Moreover, most of the population will be "bulked up". wink

                        And all this time, more and more severe pressure from the current government. Do you get it?
                      2. Cron
                        Cron 21 December 2020 21: 34
                        0
                        Quote: Arzt
                        Who is interested in it?

                        Nobody yet. But the game goes on for a long time.

                        Next elections in 2024.
                        Navalny will be 48 years old and Putin 72.

                        And in the elections in 2030 - 54 and 78, respectively.

                        And in 2036 - 60 and 86.
                        Moreover, most of the population will be "bulked up". wink

                        And all this time, more and more severe pressure from the current government. Do you get it?

                        You don't get a little bit of what's going on. The game continues, but it follows completely different rules. Whether you like it or not, a system has already been built in Russia. If Putin leaves, there will be Putin 2, and outside elements like Navalny will simply spit out from there. Exactly the same as in the States.
                        You are too optimistic in your predictions about a large portion of the population. It is not necessary to mold the majority of the more active minority of the Internet sheep.

                        I’m even afraid to suggest that this government is waiting for tougher pressure. Will they come up with some other chant, or will they start stinking even more on the Internet?

                        All your majority becomes the majority when some elites in the country need it. It was exactly the same in Ukraine with their "Zvirache Beattya Children". Almost every day they reported that the students demanded this, demanded it. Where is all this bio-waste now? Who jumped for the association without reading a single page of this document. Or is paradise now there and no one else goes to rallies? They leave, only now no one cares about their opinion.
                        The majority comes to the polls and gives their answer. Only the United States has already established its own semblance of a system there, though Russophobic, to the detriment of Ukraine, but still. And you can choose even a huckster, even a clown, the policy will be the same.
                        So, with the help of a bunch of rams in the square, having molded the people out of him, they chopped the rest of the majority.
                        Therefore, it is not necessary to mold the entire people from an aggressively active minority.
                      3. Doctor
                        Doctor 21 December 2020 22: 49
                        0
                        If Putin leaves, there will be Putin 2, and outside elements like Navalny will simply spit out from there.

                        It would be good. Perhaps the process has started today.
                        https://tass.ru/politika/10313191?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop

                        But for now there is a risk of Western henchmen entering power. With the subsequent transformation into Ukraine-2.

                        I’m even afraid to suggest that this government is waiting for tougher pressure.

                        Greater North Korea. With disconnection from SWIFT, blocking of all foreign accounts and a ban on entry to the West.
                      4. Cron
                        Cron 22 December 2020 10: 12
                        0
                        Quote: Arzt
                        But for now there is a risk of Western henchmen entering power. With the subsequent transformation into Ukraine-2.

                        I don't think there is such a risk. Navalny has always been beneficial to this government as an incapable opposition leader who cannot take real power. But for that which could keep certain elites in good shape. People like Khodorkovsky are much more dangerous. This person, if given free rein, can do a lot of things.

                        There will be no Greater North Korea. Russia is almost the only country in the world that can live completely autonomously. Almost all the necessary resources are here, there is a huge scientific potential, there is no market of its own, one of the most powerful armies is. It is impossible to simply isolate such a huge country. There is no SWIFT, there is its own system. Created jointly with a number of states, because later it may affect them too. And with China at hand, any restrictions lose all meaning, and more and more push the PRC and the Russian Federation to further rapprochement.
                        I will remind you that the most severe sanctions were imposed on North Korea by the UN Security Council. And these are not any restrictions imposed on Russia by a number of states, these are real sanctions. These sanctions are binding on everyone. And since these sanctions were introduced by the Security Council, then both Russia and China are participating in this. In such harsh conditions, almost any country will eat grass. Therefore, a comparison of two models of development of different Koreas is absolutely incorrect and is used only by a certain circle of propagandists.
        4. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 21 December 2020 17: 55
          +8
          Quote: Cron
          The man wrote about Putin's retinue. Well, what's the point of taking out assets when you can keep it all here?
          And who will take them by the balls? Are you? Do not make me laugh

          They are not going to live here, so the kabaeva palace on the Cote d'Azur, which previously belonged to the African dictator of Zaire Sese Seko Kuku Ngbend Wa Za ​​Banga Mobutu (translated from the Ngbandi language - “A warrior going from victory to victory, and no one can stop him ») But how will grandfather Kabay go there now?
          1. Cron
            Cron 21 December 2020 18: 02
            -2
            Quote: Stroporez
            They are not going to live here, so the kabaeva palace on the Cote d'Azur, which previously belonged to the African dictator of Zaire Sese Seko Kuku Ngbend Wa Za ​​Banga Mobutu (translated from the Ngbandi language - “A warrior going from victory to victory, and no one can stop him ») But how will grandfather Kabay go there now?

            These fantasies don't interest me
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 21 December 2020 18: 24
              +7
              Quote: Cron
              These fantasies don't interest me

              then look at porn.
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 21 December 2020 12: 34
    +11
    Quote: Prax1
    Uncovered a group of your killers? Oh, how bad.

    A good one of his operas, worked quickly, either he works for the CIA, or he does MI6.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 21 December 2020 12: 38
      -1
      Quote: tihonmarine
      either he works in the CIA or in MI6.

      So he has curators there.
  • 210ox
    210ox 21 December 2020 12: 34
    +5
    You are a funny man. Who needs to touch shit? Smells to itself on the sly, so what with that. Will you start stirring up, it smells even more? The question is, who benefits from it?
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 21 December 2020 12: 43
      -1
      Well, for example, take it and bury it neatly, it will no longer smell for sure.
      1. 210ox
        210ox 21 December 2020 14: 07
        +3
        So they will do it. Not with us.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 21 December 2020 12: 54
      +2
      Quote: 210ox
      Who needs to touch shit?

      In Russia, no one really needs it, if only what the Germans need, so let them dig in the garbage.
    3. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 21 December 2020 17: 13
      0
      We would like to remove this figure - they would. There are a lot of ways.
      We would like to close it for a long time - we would close it. A dozen of his own female colleagues would report gang rape all of them at once.
      Apparently, all this was unnecessary. It's just that this figure is a servant of many masters. While useful.
      And here is some kind of endless Santa Barbara. Hollywood. Soap series. It is imperative to shoot the next episodes about poisoning. And worse, with a bunch of shocking details. But the impression is that the scriptwriter and director did not agree on their "special artistic vision" during this production.
      The play is a failure.
      Well, about the calls to judge for treason to the Motherland, I would like to say - who would have bellowed ...
      1. Altona
        Altona 21 December 2020 22: 06
        +2
        Quote: Reserve officer
        Well, about the calls to judge for treason to the Motherland, I would like to say - who would have bellowed ...

        --------------------------
        They wrote a brilliant comment. Lyosha is a very interesting character, and as a prolific author and himself as the main character of the "opposition" he is also full of adventures. With regards to Mr. Deripaska, "polymerizing" Russian aluminum to sworn partners so brilliantly is what kind of talent one should have. Now the Russian peasant is hunching over to "land in Iowa," sorry, to build a new aluminum smelter in the USA. So what about treason to the Motherland, it would be necessary to figure out who harmed the Motherland more. He took profits offshore, optimized jobs, and in the end, under pressure, gave the strategic industry to "partners".
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 21 December 2020 12: 52
    +2
    Quote: Prax1
    What is treason then? Uncovered a group of your killers? Oh, how bad.
    Good transcription Prax into Russian, - Dust...
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  • New Year day
    New Year day 21 December 2020 12: 24
    +3
    Russian businessman Oleg Deripaska announced the need for criminal punishment against persons who "provoke" sanctions against Russian citizens and companies.

    and what to do with it, after the transfer of "Rusal" into the hands of America? Deripaska did not provoke, but did!
    1. bar
      bar 21 December 2020 12: 29
      +3
      Deripaska did not provoke, but did!

      He did not provoke, he spread angry
    2. Igoresha
      Igoresha 21 December 2020 12: 37
      +1
      and what to do with it after the transfer of "Rusal" into the hands of America?
      set Navalny on him! And to force prostitute Nastya Rybka to pay everything that he squeezed according to the price list. The hit on the pocket is the worst
    3. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 21 December 2020 12: 38
      +7
      Mister who did not return the pen directly to the standard of patriotism. The truth is not yet clear which country. laughing
  • The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 21 December 2020 12: 25
    -5
    Unfortunately, the technology has not yet reached the level that would convey all my hatred of the oligarchy and their hangers-on!
    And the great, mighty Russian language possesses such phrases, but they are prohibited by the rules!
    I too ... I found a sufferer and was patient!
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 21 December 2020 14: 49
      -4
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Unfortunately, the technique has not yet reached the level that would convey all my hatred to the oligarchy and their hangers-on!


      Sitting two Kuma-Bandera in a trench somewhere near Donetsk, and suddenly - "Bah-bang-bang !!!", "answer" from the militia came.

      After the shelling, one godfather sniffed, sniffed, and asked another:

      - Kume, why stink like that? Wee the wrong hour ...?

      - Tse I see fierce hate...
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 21 December 2020 15: 12
        -4
        Wait! If they (Deripaska & Company) get to your Donetsk and put their hands on, then you product of fierce hatred you will smear on crackers and call them adjika!
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 21 December 2020 15: 29
          +1
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Wait! If they (Deripaska & Company) get to your Donetsk and put their hands on, then you will smear the product of fierce hatred on crackers and call it adjika!

          It turns out that you are already eating up, Leader, what have you (you) smeared? After all "Deripaska und Company"This is a Russian frame.

          And funny yes laughing , you frighten us with Deripaska, when exactly the same ghoul like him, only with a Tatar surname, turned Donbass as he wanted before the war. Also, the owner of factories, newspapers, ships ...
          1. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 21 December 2020 15: 34
            -5
            Well, we've already spit out what you are just sniffing at. Therefore, we know what for what, and if you considered your Akhmetushka for heavenly punishment, then you are still little children! In general, remain blissfully unaware, just do not be surprised later.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 21 December 2020 15: 47
              0
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              and if you considered your Akhmetushka a heavenly punishment, then you are still little children!

              What is it? Kaka kara belay ? So we just learned over the years of "nezalezhnosti" to ignore ahmetka, surviving despite it.
              So we are ready yes Moreover, even the devil in the image of Deripaska for Donbass is much less evil than the rabid Ragul-Bandera.
              1. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 21 December 2020 15: 49
                -3
                surviving despite
                Behold, your whole essence. And they never learned to live.
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 21 December 2020 15: 58
                  +2
                  Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                  surviving despite
                  Behold, your whole essence. And they never learned to live.

                  The environment determines consciousness - so "lucky" to be born before the collapse of the USSR and to be a citizen of a non-state, from which, by the way, many (including you the Leader) fled to Russia in search of a warm and satisfying place.

                  And I am a homebody. I was born in Donbass, I live here, here I have a grove of children. And I hope to still live, if I'm lucky, and see Donbass as part of Russia.
                  By the way, soon I will probably say goodbye to VO ... A former colleague came to me with a proposal to return again ...
                  I will bring this day, joy with tears in my eyes, again as I can.
                  1. The leader of the Redskins
                    The leader of the Redskins 21 December 2020 16: 05
                    -7
                    What, everything is so good that already there was not enough manpower? But many wrote that they would return to the front line only if the dill were trampled ...
                    And then you needed a truce? Or has things become tight with pennies?
                    Oh people, people ... Why don't you live in peace ...
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 21 December 2020 16: 18
                      +3
                      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                      Oh people, people ... Why don't you live in peace ...

                      The song was - "Something the Chinese can't sleep at the border"

                      There is no quieter Donbass region in the former Ukraine. But they made us angry ... yes

                      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                      What, everything is so good that already there was not enough manpower?

                      No, it's just that I'm somehow uncomfortable in my "peaceful" life. And something in the platoon has changed since the spring, and I just learned about it.
                      Actually, I "put the machine gun in a corner" then, too, for a reason. There was a reason for such a step. Then, "in hot pursuit" they also asked to return, but I fundamentally I ignored requests, did not see the point and reason for returning.
                      And now, I am conducting "negotiations" on my terms, the main of which is that I enter the staff as a machine gunner, and with the same machine that I fought with for 3 years laughing
  • APASUS
    APASUS 21 December 2020 12: 25
    +6
    For the fact that Navalny reveals the schemes of thieving officials, I would also reward him. But for participation in a setup with cloudy poisoning (twice), bunks are crying over him, it's time!
    1. Mishanya74_2
      Mishanya74_2 21 December 2020 12: 28
      -9
      How did you guess that the setup?
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 21 December 2020 12: 30
        +4
        Quote: Mishanya74_2
        How did you guess that the setup?

        In the same way as with the Boeing MH-17, there is no investigation, there is no court decision, and the sanctions have already been imposed!
    2. vavilon
      vavilon 21 December 2020 12: 45
      +1
      The schemes were all disclosed a long time ago, but the trouble is that we do not have such a structure that could suppress this
  • bar
    bar 21 December 2020 12: 28
    +10
    Oleg Deripaska announced the need to conduct criminal punishment against persons who "provoke" sanctions against Russian citizens and companies.

    And I would, on the contrary, have tried moody businessmen for selling their Motherland under the pretext of evading sanctions. And I would start with Deripaska himself, who sold the striped Rusal.
    1. bar
      bar 21 December 2020 13: 32
      +4
      And also German Oskarovich there. For refusing to work in Crimea.
  • iouris
    iouris 21 December 2020 12: 30
    +1
    I will explain. Deripaska said: "The State (Motherland) is Me".
    1. Mishanya74_2
      Mishanya74_2 21 December 2020 12: 31
      -2
      He's been talking a lot lately ..
      Probably marks some ministers
      1. iouris
        iouris 21 December 2020 12: 32
        0
        This would be considered downshifting.
  • polar fox
    polar fox 21 December 2020 12: 31
    0
    the law on fakes was adopted, but it only concerns the "electorate", he does not touch the news TV companies ... so with Navalny, they hunted, but the hunters, like the doctors, are no longer "very good", everything is bad with the staff in the kingdom, they blamed on the woman , and she took, and exposed Lavrov's daughter (who is also studying in London) ... now the main luminescent and other tasty treats are outraged ... to look white, you do not need to wash yourself, it is enough to throw mud on others! (c)
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 21 December 2020 12: 43
      0
      that Navalny's henchman had a chain of bookstores in England and Australia - he read, but about
      exposed Lavrov's daughter
      not in the know, drop the link, plz
      1. polar fox
        polar fox 21 December 2020 17: 13
        +1
        Quote: Igoresha
        drop the link, plz

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHftWarUIzM&feature=emb_logo
        1. Igoresha
          Igoresha 22 December 2020 17: 39
          -1
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHftWarUIzM&feature=emb_logo
          an expert from the Rurik family can't lie)
  • Andrey Krasnoyarsky
    Andrey Krasnoyarsky 21 December 2020 12: 34
    +4
    Oleg Vladimirovich overwhelmed a little. How does Russian legislation (Article 275 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) interpret "treason to the Motherland", more precisely, treason (as in the law).? This is the issuance of military and state secrets to foreign countries, espionage in favor of a foreign state, the provision of financial or other assistance to foreign organizations carrying out actions against the security of Russia. And what of the following did Navalny create? What such military and state secrets does he know? Who did he spy on and what did he spy on? What enemy organizations did you help financially or how? I am not a supporter of Navalny, but any sanctions against him or any citizen should be applied in accordance with the law of the Russian Federation, and not the good wishes of individuals.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 21 December 2020 13: 14
      +4
      And what of the following did Navalny create?

      Issued a geodetic plan for Medvedev's dacha. smile
      Where is the toilet, where is the bathhouse, where is the gazebo and so on ... this is an important state secret.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 21 December 2020 12: 34
    +1
    Should I say?
    No, it will not work, because as you want to put it .... nizya.
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 December 2020 12: 58
      +5
      Now, it's very difficult to find the words, only dots ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 December 2020 13: 12
        +2
        Do not run into it again .... anyway, nothing can be changed with this method. The "pleasure" is below average.
        1. cniza
          cniza 21 December 2020 13: 15
          +4
          He is already tired, replete on all the pages, he would be consigned to oblivion, and not promoted ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 21 December 2020 13: 21
            +1
            A normal lightning rod / magnet. He is safe for the authorities, a dummy, he pulls off especially excited people.
            It is beneficial to them.
            1. cniza
              cniza 21 December 2020 13: 22
              +4
              It's not just safe, it's useful, and it feels like it works for them ...
  • tatra
    tatra 21 December 2020 12: 37
    +4
    For Putin, Navalny is like Yeltsin for GoK.rbachev. He promotes him more, as a "fighter" against the authorities, than represses him. And Putin does not touch the favorites of the Russophobic West, they are allowed everything.
  • vavilon
    vavilon 21 December 2020 12: 42
    -4
    Here is a beetle!)))) Aaaa !!!!)))
    He only cares about his selfish interests and this is called the Russian elite
    And people like Navalny need to be deprived of citizenship and a tablecloth road to Israel or America
    You look and the air will become cleaner
  • demo
    demo 21 December 2020 12: 43
    +2
    The actions of those citizens who, directly or indirectly, these sanctions against Russian individuals or legal entities provoke, perhaps it is quite logical to qualify as treason, with the corresponding criminal consequences, he said.
    They say that Jews are smart people.
    They also say that the family has its black sheep.
    This statement is not a big deal.
    ALL government officials of the Russian Federation, starting with President Putin, are to blame for the imposition of sanctions against the Russian Federation.
    And it does not matter whether Crimea became part of the Russian Federation legitimately or not, it does not matter how and why the Russian Federation forced Georgia to peace during the 08.08.08 conflict, it does not matter whether the Russian hackers took part or did not take part in the US elections. The main thing is different.
    The opposing party appoints the guilty person in the person of the Russian Federation.

    And if such a legislative innovation begins to operate within the Russian Federation, then the entire State Duma, the Federation Council, and Ministers can be convicted on the basis of this article.
    Although, as for me, I would have long wanted to see many of them on the bunk.
    Together with Deripaska.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 21 December 2020 12: 46
    -2
    Quote: Prax1
    What is treason then? Uncovered a group of your killers? Oh, how bad.

    Was the Internet also connected to the madhouse? Isn't it a shame to be so disgraced?)))
  • Tagan
    Tagan 21 December 2020 12: 54
    +1
    Quote: Stas157
    Into life! Poisoned, and then made a traitor. It is my fault that I stayed alive!

    "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean you're not being followed." You yourself are not afraid of the invented?)))
  • 7,62x54
    7,62x54 21 December 2020 13: 00
    +7
    Deripaska is a patriotic Cypriot, gives advice on how to live here in Russia.
  • Takashi
    Takashi 21 December 2020 13: 02
    +1
    the State of the Russian Federation itself - shoots itself in the foot, and then claims against citizens.
    Deripaska is an oligarch just like Putin
  • taiga2018
    taiga2018 21 December 2020 13: 02
    0
    Well, let's also judge him and thus finally convince the West that our government is afraid of this ill-poisoned bastard, add popularity to him as a sufferer for the fight against the "regime" so that this abomination flashes on screens, so that his supporters put on a show near the courthouse and during the trial ...
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 December 2020 13: 02
    -1
    Yes, both of them must be sent to an indefinite settlement in the taiga with axes even without trial. Let them sort it out among themselves.
    1. Sofa expert
      Sofa expert 22 December 2020 06: 20
      0
      Leave the forests of Siberia, Siberia is not to blame for anything ..
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 22 December 2020 08: 00
        0
        It is immediately obvious - an expert, and even a sofa, where is there even a letter written about Siberia? laughing hi
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 21 December 2020 13: 07
    -2
    I hope this is F F F not just like that?
  • Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 21 December 2020 13: 17
    +12
    And what, someone proved that the FSB was not involved in the poisoning?
    How grandfather got confused about testimony at the conference on December 17:
    - admitted that he was being followed (surveillance for political reasons?)
    - made a reservation with a stupid laugh: "if they wanted to, then they poisoned" ... (wants to say that doctors and a chemist are conducting outdoor activities?)
    and if they conducted external surveillance, how could they not spot who poisoned?
    Why the Prosecutor's Office was not "excited". Has the ICR filed a case? Did you want extra noise?
    A laughing stock to people.

    Spying on a person whose name he does not name aloud (a patient in a Berlin hospital) is so petty - afraid?
  • fif21
    fif21 21 December 2020 13: 20
    -4
    I'm shocked! The former deputy Ragozin is being attracted for the transfer of classified information - and the question of the "Komersant" correspondent Why ??? He's a good man, I've known him for a long time. And who said that spies are bad people? wink VVP also worked as an intelligence officer in the GDR and look - what a chorism! I agree with Deripaska 100% - Guaido, Tikhanovskaya, Navalny .... - these are weapons in the hands of the special services aimed at destabilizing the situation, and that means these people are not working in the interests of the countries in which they live (lived) So "Treason to the Motherland" this is their article of the Criminal Code. hi
  • Roman070280
    Roman070280 21 December 2020 13: 23
    +6
    I am hinting at the need to judge Deripaska ..
    Perhaps Navalny is not an angel ... but he certainly caused less damage to the country by theft ...
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 21 December 2020 13: 42
      -2
      but the damage to the country by theft, he certainly caused orders of magnitude less.
      He simply did not have a chance to show himself in this field until, they do not let him in, such a good yes , to the trough. If I had fallen, I would not have suffered from modesty. Being practically no one now, he loves (according to the testimony of his colleagues) to live well, to consume beautifully, to spit on others. Can you imagine him at the helm?
  • Nestor Vlakhovski
    Nestor Vlakhovski 21 December 2020 13: 34
    -2
    Navalny has already been convicted of exposing the scheme with the theft of the Rosguard budget, convicted of publishing information about Prigozhin's theft on contracts for baby food in schools, and convicted of the absurd case of Kirovles. They will condemn him for his own attempt on his life, for not having died like the others.
    And the people fully support this policy, because every patriot knows for sure:
    Theft, banditry and especially mutual responsibility are the main spiritual bonds.
  • Moskovit
    Moskovit 21 December 2020 13: 41
    +5
    Where was Deripaska all the years during the sale of our country's natural resources? Oh, he actively participated in it. As soon as Navalny started talking about sanctions against the oligarchs, Deripaska's voice suddenly cut through.
    All this fuss around Navalny resembles a cartoon Well, wait. For two years, a crowd of senders (Wolf) has been following Navalny (Hare) on the heels. Poisons, poisons, but cannot poison. Or maybe a fairy tale about Ryaba the chicken. Where is Navalny in the role of the golden opposition testicle.
  • Catfish
    Catfish 21 December 2020 13: 44
    +8
    Deripaska hinted at the need to judge Navalny for treason


    He's afraid that the government will change, the money will be taken away, and he will be allowed to spend. laughing
  • Odysseus
    Odysseus 21 December 2020 13: 56
    +9
    Ahahahaha, this is level 99 trolling
    A former Cypriot citizen with assets around the world (including the US) speaks of treason.
    Article - for treason to the oligarchic homeland laughing
    However, if you count how much honestly looted from the citizens of Russia, the evil Western imperialists of the unfortunate Deripaska take away from him, you can understand ...
  • Avior
    Avior 21 December 2020 14: 25
    +1
    ... The actions of those citizens who, directly or indirectly, these sanctions against Russian individuals or legal entities provoke, probably, it is quite logical to qualify as treason to their homeland, with corresponding criminal consequences

    Decided to repent? Just like he said to himself. And why did the author decide that about the bulk?
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 21 December 2020 14: 55
    +9
    Deripaska hinted at the need to judge Navalny for treason

    Well it is clear. And how to tear off Deripaska himself, for treason? And literally.
  • Icarus
    Icarus 21 December 2020 15: 20
    +8
    Although the businessman does not name a single name, it can be assumed that the publication gives a hint of a potential traitor Alexei Navalny, who, while in Germany, called on Western countries to impose sanctions against Russia.

    It turns out that Navalny is right, proposing to replace the sanctions against Russia with sanctions against specific oligarchs and embezzlers. Eco Deripaska began to flatten that he felt like a subject, with the right to legislative initiative. However, the West will not impose such personal sanctions. The West will not want the "elite" to become patriots of Russia.
  • Region-25.rus
    Region-25.rus 21 December 2020 15: 25
    +4
    huh !!! it depends on who harms the population even more!
  • ender
    ender 21 December 2020 15: 30
    +4
    and T-shirts don't help anymore, or what?

  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 21 December 2020 15: 39
    +3
    Nobody will accept such a law. And then you will have to plant a lot of "handshake", "respected" and "successful". And they are not their own enemies.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 23 December 2020 09: 24
      -2
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      Nobody will accept such a law. And then you will have to plant a lot of "handshake", "respected" and "successful". And they are not their own enemies.


      You're right. In this case, Deripaska acted (in order to once again declare himself?) In the role of a non-commissioned officer's widow.
  • strelokmira
    strelokmira 21 December 2020 15: 40
    +1
    Both suns and their colleagues in power, but only with the highest measure wink
  • O. Bender
    O. Bender 21 December 2020 15: 58
    +2
    A thief robbed a thief. It's funny. For treason to us, it seems, they give a term less than for a hooligan.
  • akshor
    akshor 21 December 2020 16: 40
    +1
    And here is a new video from Navalny. I got acquainted. Stocking up on popcorn :-)
    1. Icarus
      Icarus 21 December 2020 17: 38
      0
      Quote: akshor
      And here is a new video from Navalny. I got acquainted. Stocking up on popcorn :-)

      But this is direct evidence of the FSB's participation in at least the concealment of "evidence". Only this cannot be qualified as concealment of evidence, since the case was not initiated, therefore cowards are not formally evidence. In the same way, the withdrawal of a bottle from the water from a hotel room by bulk, cannot be recognized as concealing evidence. Nonsense. Although to deny the fact of an attempt at poisoning, in my opinion, is a lie.
      1. businessv
        businessv 22 December 2020 16: 45
        +1
        Quote: Icarus
        Although to deny the fact of an attempt at poisoning, in my opinion, is a lie.
        An incomprehensible expression for me. Denial of the fact of attempted poisoning by whom? And what a lie - a denial of a fact, or an attempt at poisoning? If we take the denial of the fact of an attempt at poisoning by the authorities, based on the conclusion of doctors, this is one thing. And the second unsuccessful attempt at poisoning by the Novice, and even at home, is different. Expired drugs from the times of the Union do not give the desired effect, or are all the poisonings one anti-Russian campaign of the Naglo-Saxons? I wonder if any food poisoning should start with the opening of a criminal case?
        1. Icarus
          Icarus 22 December 2020 19: 57
          0
          Quote: businessv
          Quote: Icarus
          Although to deny the fact of an attempt at poisoning, in my opinion, is a lie.
          An incomprehensible expression for me. Denial of the fact of attempted poisoning by whom? And what a lie - a denial of a fact, or an attempt at poisoning? If we take the denial of the fact of an attempt at poisoning by the authorities, based on the conclusion of doctors, this is one thing. And the second unsuccessful attempt at poisoning by the Novice, and even at home, is different. Expired drugs from the times of the Union do not give the desired effect, or are all the poisonings one anti-Russian campaign of the Naglo-Saxons? I wonder if any food poisoning should start with the opening of a criminal case?

          Navalny was poisoned, as a result of which he fell into a coma - this is a fact (for those who do not understand the Russian language and the logic of constructing phrases). But by whom he was poisoned, this should have been established by the investigation. If you have information that Navalny had a banal food poisoning, share. But, first, refute the ambulance doctors who injected with atropine. And, in my opinion, in case of food poisoning, the patient is placed in the infectious diseases department, and not in the toxicological department.
          1. businessv
            businessv 22 December 2020 23: 17
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            Quote: Icarus
            But, first, refute the ambulance doctors who injected with atropine. And, in my opinion, in case of food poisoning, the patient is placed in the infectious diseases department, and not in the toxicological department.
            O colleague, you are seriously swimming in this matter! In the sense that you are poorly versed! Our doctors are absolutely right. Atropine injection is a standard procedure in any case of providing medical care in similar cases, namely:
            Spasm of the smooth muscle organs of the gastrointestinal tract; gastric ulcer (in the exacerbation phase) and duodenal ulcer (in the exacerbation phase), acute pancreatitis, hypersalivation (parkinsonism, poisoning with salts of heavy metals, during dental interventions), renal colic, hepatic colic, bronchospasm, laryngospasm
            With food poisoning, too, but it depends on the severity of the poisoning and the patient's condition. As for the infectious diseases department, you have generally broken through the bottom, but the summary is about the following: You are reading the wrong literature! Refer to our non-governmental sources of information, they are more reliable. than the Air Force (not to be confused with our Armed Forces), and CNN combined, especially when it comes to Russia. hi
            ZY Here's what's interesting to me: does anyone seriously think that a person can be saved after being poisoned by a Novice !? You must absolutely not understand the subject in order to assert this! Listen to at least one of the developers, or witnesses to the death of people from the Newbie! And most importantly, even if he works so damn well, really, after a puncture with him, it was necessary to do a similar event with the same result again ?! wassat Friends, opponents, well, please turn on the brain!
            1. Icarus
              Icarus 23 December 2020 10: 15
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              Here's what's interesting to me: does anyone seriously think that a person can be saved after being poisoned by a Novice !?
              Don't read at night
              CNN put together, especially when it comes to Russia
              ... I really wrote a word about the "newbie". The poisonous substance could be used in this case, firstly, in the very minimum dosage, so that after death it almost does not remain in the body, and secondly, unknown to civilian toxicological laboratories in Russia. Then there would be no reason to initiate a criminal case after an autopsy and tissue analysis (mandatory under these circumstances). As it already happened, for example, with Ilyukhin V.I., who died suddenly shortly after the publication of the decision of the "military tribunal" on Putin's activities.
              I have never been a supporter of Navalny. But they are categorically opposed to the use of the state apparatus in the political struggle between the citizens of Russia (even if one of them is the president) and between the parties, and even in a criminal way, as this will sooner or later lead to civil war or revolt. P.S. From life experience. Many times in my life I was poisoned by food (including mushrooms) and saw how it was with others. First of all, the stomach is washed. There was no such information about Navalny.
              1. businessv
                businessv 23 December 2020 16: 45
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                Quote: Icarus
                I really wrote a word about the "newbie".
                No, they didn't, but we are discussing the bulk case, right? And the Germans "discovered" the "newbie", so it is not necessary to write. Regarding examinations and other things: today there are a lot of medications, the combination of which, or dosage, is fatal. This gives the specialists the opportunity to safely and without noise remove a person, but not in this case, from which we can conclude that the situevina is clearly ordered by the West, which is confirmed by further events we observe. The fruit in question was not allowed to travel abroad, but where is it today?
                categorically against the use of the state apparatus in the political struggle between the citizens of Russia (even if one of them is the president) and between the parties, and even in a criminal way
                I am also against such methods, like most normal people, but this is what makes it absurd in this case! What was the need for the authorities to get rid of this clown working for the West?
                First of all, the stomach is washed. There was no such information about Navalny.
                The fact is that already on the plane he began to have convulsions, and in such cases, it is not up to gastric lavage, colleague, you need to save a person, which our doctors did! You will not deny that it is thanks to their actions that he is still alive? hi
                1. Icarus
                  Icarus 23 December 2020 19: 19
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                  No, they didn't, but we're discussing the bulk case, right? And the Germans "discovered" "newbie", so it is not necessary to write
                  What the Germans discovered there must be divided by seven. But, as a person who had previously been involved in investigations, I know that they usually act on the principle of “it’s better to keep it out” and initiate a case, within which it is possible to officially appoint forensic examinations. And in this case, I assure you, there was absolutely every reason to initiate a case, "in fact." Then there would be an opportunity, based on the results of the investigation, to report, for example, that this was the work of the West (although there were risks that the investigation would lead to a trace of other perpetrators, so apparently the case was not opened). And now it is impossible to say so, now it is speculation that does not have evidence collected within the framework of the law (therefore, apparently, the specialists had to illegally (not within the framework of the examination appointed by the investigation) wash off Navalny's cowards in order to analyze them for establishing traces OV). Now the authorities are in a worse position than the SA in the Khashoggi case (they still imprisoned someone). It smells bad from this case, so I consider the suspicions of poisoning the human body with a poisonous substance to be justified until proven otherwise. The only question is who the poisoner is. I cannot accept your conclusions as evidence. I agree that there are many fatal drugs out there, but in this case it wasn't enough for the alleged poisoner. For the poisoner (if it is the FSB), it was necessary that the fact of poisoning was not detected by a simple laboratory, and, possibly, by forensic forensic experts, too, so that it was not detected. And for the Western intelligence services, on the contrary, it was necessary that the fact of poisoning be established. Perhaps that is why the case was not initiated, so as not to establish any fact officially. The fact that Putin agreed to release Navalny to Germany (mistake) does not mean anything. He could be misled by experts that the substance could no longer be detected, or he was not at all aware of someone's initiative to bait the subject (kurtosis of the performer). Well, the German laboratory may have found something, but could not identify this "something". This did not suit the West. Therefore, they informed the public that what their politicians demanded was a "newbie" (the stupidest thing that could be thought of, but sounds beautiful, taking into account the history of the violins). The fact that the video recordings from the hotel and the surrounding area have disappeared is also not in favor of the FSB.
                  In this case, I interpret all doubts not in favor of the Kremlin. So far, I believe that the FSB has hurt Lech (it is possible that without the knowledge of the president, then Patrushev will be removed from office in 2-3 months).
                  1. businessv
                    businessv 23 December 2020 23: 34
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                    Quote: Icarus
                    So far, I believe that the FSB has hurt Lech (it is possible that without the knowledge of the president, then Patrushev will be removed from office in 2-3 months).
                    I am not a supporter of conspiracy theories and I look at things easier. I believe that the body could easily collapse due to poisoning, for example, alcohol and stimulants, energy drinks, etc. There are a lot of options, but they are not interesting for the West and for the mass media. For our performers, in my opinion, your version looks very clumsy. Not the scale of the personality to bother with poisoning. Stupid! hi
  • Simargl
    Simargl 21 December 2020 17: 02
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    According to the businessman, it is necessary to amend the Russian Criminal Code by adding an article to it, providing for criminal liability for "provoking" sanctions. And the action itself equates to high treason.
    Navalny did not cheat on anyone.
    He just Enemy of the people!
    1. polar fox
      polar fox 21 December 2020 17: 18
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      Quote: Simargl
      He's just an enemy of the people!

      the Kremlin people!
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 22 December 2020 13: 13
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        Quote: polar fox
        the Kremlin people!
        Listen, you, a representative of the non-Kremlin people!
        When they throw mud at my country, I don't care how he treats anyone!
        When he throws mud at the people who saved him - I don't care what he says about those to whom he considers himself "opposition"!
        When he attracts to his stocks youngsters who have pushed their ideas that are no better than religion - don't give a damn about its possible positive aspects!
  • fa2998
    fa2998 21 December 2020 17: 18
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    Quote: APASUS
    bunks are crying for him, it's time already!

    Well, Navalny is a PRIVATE PERSON. So if Navalny is judged for betrayal of the Motherland, let's figure it out when OFFICIALS in the state have relatives abroad, account property. Let's take at least 1000 people by ranking - Presidential Administration, Duma, Federation Council, Government, after all family TAM. What patriotism? And if relations with which country are aggravated, it will come to war. HOW WILL THE OFFICIAL WORK, when his spouse is a citizen of that country, children study there and bought palaces ??? what what hi
  • Voltsky
    Voltsky 21 December 2020 18: 04
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    Quote: Silvestr
    what are stimulants and stimulants of what?

    MDMA and cocaine, if you have dealt with this issue :)
    And before that, he was not very bad at pressing the power engineers, well, doctor .... justify your dissertation.
  • Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 21 December 2020 18: 36
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    Of course a traitor! He and others like him! All on trial!

    Democracy has been played out in the Kremlin! "Everything's under control!" Here and disentangle it now!
  • GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 21 December 2020 22: 56
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    Quote: fa2998
    Let's take at least 1000 people according to the ranking - Presidential Administration,


    We can stop at this since the AP is about 2000 people. Very bloated. We dug 2000 with our money.
  • Laksamana besar
    Laksamana besar 22 December 2020 02: 18
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    Yesterday it was necessary, I agree.
  • Basarev
    Basarev 22 December 2020 08: 10
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    Didn't he himself, by his economic arbitrariness, compel the West to impose sanctions? People there are smart and immediately understood: if this is not stopped, it will squander the whole country. He not only casts a shadow on capitalism with his immoral actions, strains the very idea, but also leaves behind a desert. The West would not want, once having entered Russia, to find only ashes instead of countless trophies. That is why the West is so adamant about the issue of sanctions to the crazy faces.
  • Serge Bermudov
    Serge Bermudov 22 December 2020 10: 48
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    this aging boiled pants merchant as legendary by the now departed
    on the train on road 501
  • Anachoret
    Anachoret 22 December 2020 14: 15
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    It is naive to believe that this was a message addressed to his own relative, albeit formally the former.
    This is a delicate allusion from the "family" to the power bloc, including the current guarantor.
  • Normal ok
    Normal ok 22 December 2020 14: 20
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    It is also high time for Deripaska to be tried for "treason".
  • businessv
    businessv 22 December 2020 16: 33
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    Although the businessman does not name a single name, it can be assumed that the publication hints at potential traitor Alexei Navalny, who, while in Germany, called on Western countries to impose sanctions against Russia.
    Who, if not Deripaska, know about the sanctions ?! laughing Regarding Breakup, I agree with the discussed opinion of even such an unpopular person. Vyak @ t from beyond the hillock to their country can only be a plebeian without a clan and tribe, which, apparently, is Privalny.
  • Radikal
    Radikal 22 December 2020 16: 46
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    Russian businessman Oleg Deripaska announced the need for criminal punishment against persons who "provoke" sanctions against Russian citizens and companies.
    ... and start, first of all, with the l / s of the US State Department, continue with the London government, the European Union, and finish on our territory with representatives of the oligarchy and the political class of the Russian Federation. wassat lol
    Clowns .... sad
  • zenion
    zenion 22 December 2020 19: 36
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    No need to judge Navalny for treason! He did not and does not have a homeland.